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Mac & Bone Show - Cole Bryson Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Right now, though, let's talk a little bit of college football,
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  Speaker 1: and let's talk a little bit of Palmetto State college
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  Speaker 1: football specifically. Clemson has gotten their footing back a little bit, Boney,
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  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I don't know if that
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  Speaker 1: helps tomorrow night, but they certainly have got their footing
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  Speaker 1: back the last game and a half or so. South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina desperately looking for footing, and let's talk this through
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  Speaker 1: with one of our favorites down there, in the palmetto
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  Speaker 1: state he is cole bryson and he joins us from
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  Speaker 1: the fan upstate down there in south cackalacky call what's
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  Speaker 1: going on man how are things down there in south carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Man, they're good. Listen, I heard you complaining about all
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  Speaker 2: the Panther injuries and, you know, a huge Sunday night game. Listen,
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  Speaker 2: we can't all be Cleveland. We can't all be 3-1, okay?
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  Speaker 2: We all want to be, but that's reality. We can't
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  Speaker 2: be Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: What a world. I thought about spinning it today, Cole, of, hey,
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  Speaker 3: maybe the Panthers can get Cleveland revenge if they meet
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  Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl with the way the Browns are
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  Speaker 3: going right now.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see you again in the day of Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day, baby. All right, man. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: your teams down there. I don't want to be rude
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  Speaker 1: and not acknowledge that. Y'all have had some football stress
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  Speaker 1: down there, too. Let's start with the Tigers. So what
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  Speaker 1: do you think about what they've accomplished, Cole? How do
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  Speaker 1: you view the rally against North Carolina? the win on
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  Speaker 1: the road against Cal, like how encouraging should that be?
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  Speaker 1: Or do we look at the opponents and say, ah,
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't be all that impressed.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think? You know, I think two things
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  Speaker 2: can be true, right? Like you have rallied the troops
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. You have played more inspiring football. And
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  Speaker 2: if you look at statistically guys, since that LSU game,
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  Speaker 2: Clemson statistically defensively has been pretty good. Now, again, going
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  Speaker 2: back to what I said, two things can be true. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: All that's fine and dandy until Miami punches you in
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  Speaker 2: the mouth on Saturday night, and then you go back to, oh, wait,
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  Speaker 2: who did we play? We played a North Carolina team
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  Speaker 2: that was better, not great, Cal that wasn't as good
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  Speaker 2: offensively as we thought they would be, and we know
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  Speaker 2: the other. So, yes, they have looked better. Clemson's defense specifically,
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  Speaker 2: you look at the numbers that they've given up in
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  Speaker 2: the past three games overall, under 15 points per game.
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  Speaker 2: This Tom Allen defense, the secondary especially, is playing really well.
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  Speaker 2: They've got guys that are starting to do what they're
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  Speaker 2: supposed to do in this system, and there is confidence.
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  Speaker 2: There is momentum. However, you play Miami, and you better
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  Speaker 2: be glad you're in the ACC because this would be
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  Speaker 2: like life every weekend if you maybe, let's say, were
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  Speaker 2: another conference like the SEC where you're You were playing
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  Speaker 2: top dogs week in and week out. So they have
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  Speaker 2: gotten better, guys. The quarterback's still the question. Tate Reynolds,
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  Speaker 2: still a young quarterback. He has looked good at times,
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  Speaker 2: but also at times you've seen signs of, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: a freshman, right? So all of that being said, you're
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  Speaker 2: not playing Georgia Southern Saturday. And I think that certainly matters.
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  Speaker 3: Cole, when we talk about the Shane Beamer stuff in
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  Speaker 3: a few minutes, there's no doubt he's on the hot
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  Speaker 3: seat no matter what you think. If he's actually going
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  Speaker 3: to get fired now, whatever, he is on the hot seat.
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  Speaker 3: Is Dabo considered on the hot seat? What do you
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  Speaker 3: think of when you think of Dabo's future? Have the
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  Speaker 3: last couple games chilled out that talk? What right now
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  Speaker 3: is the thought about Dabo going forward?
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  Speaker 2: I think the last few games have definitely cooled the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what else cools that conversation. Like, guys,
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  Speaker 2: even after that LSU debacle where Clemson just got the
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  Speaker 2: break speed off of them, you know what cooled that conversation,
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  Speaker 2: that hot seat conversation, was the buyout. The buyout number
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  Speaker 2: cools that conversation. As soon as you bring up Dabo's
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  Speaker 2: hot seat conversation, as hot as it could have been
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  Speaker 2: after the LSU game, it's cooled right back off with
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  Speaker 2: a buyout. And Clemson, you can go read the articles, guys, online.
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  Speaker 2: Clemson is a university. Like, they're not in a great
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  Speaker 2: financial spot. They're just not. So that conversation is always
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  Speaker 2: cooled off when you have a buyout as big as
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  Speaker 2: Dabo Sweeney's. They simply cannot afford to do anything with that.
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  Speaker 2: And then to your point, yes, the last three games
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  Speaker 2: certainly have helped. And anytime you play in a conference
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  Speaker 2: where you can get some of these games back and
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  Speaker 2: you can bring the fan base back, rally the troops
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  Speaker 2: per se. and look good doing it defensively, it certainly
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  Speaker 2: does help. And, again, you talk about playing inspiring football.
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  Speaker 2: Inspiring football doesn't save your job by any means, but
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  Speaker 2: they have played more inspiring football, more complimentary football. So
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  Speaker 2: I think his seat is definitely cool compared to what
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  Speaker 2: it was after the LSU game. But, guys, even down
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  Speaker 2: here after the LSU game, I said on air, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: y'all may think it's hot, but they're not firing that guy.
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  Speaker 2: So it would take him walking away– Again, the best
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  Speaker 2: thing for him, he plays in the ACC. Regardless of
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  Speaker 2: what happens Saturday, guys, there's still a lot more winnable
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  Speaker 2: games on the schedule for Clemson if they can continue
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  Speaker 2: to get better offensively. And by the end of the season,
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  Speaker 2: Dabo isn't here. Maybe you look up and they've won nine,
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  Speaker 2: ten games.
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  Speaker 3: Cole, you're a hit on the text line. Someone called
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  Speaker 3: you a Southern Mel Kiper.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. How about that?
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  Speaker 2: Is that a compliment?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I took it as that. Yeah, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you have the hair of Kuyper, though?
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  Speaker 2: No. Man, my hairline is really, really bad. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking in the mirror right now, and it does not
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  Speaker 2: resemble male Kuyper's hair in any way.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, man, we're talking with Cole Bryson, the fan upstate.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to get into the Gamecocks here in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: Last Clemson question from me. So, OK, they're definitely improved.
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  Speaker 1: It's too much money to fire Dabo. What does it
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  Speaker 1: all mean for tomorrow night? Seems like you're going to
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  Speaker 1: get some weather. I wonder if we if y'all get
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  Speaker 1: your like 48 delay down there of a football game.
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  Speaker 1: Can they hang in the game? Dabo said this game
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  Speaker 1: is going to come down to the last play. Are
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  Speaker 1: you with Dabo on that?
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I'm not with him on that. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: this game is going to have to be muddy, ugly, murky.
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  Speaker 2: And with the rain and the weather you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: maybe it could be. But guys, even then, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to have to be murky, muddy, ugly to the sense
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  Speaker 2: of like Clemson stealing possessions. Miami doesn't look like themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Because when you look at statistically, going back to the
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  Speaker 2: stats for a few minutes, what Clemson's defense has done
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  Speaker 2: in the last three games is great. But guys, Miami's offense,
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  Speaker 2: let's just compare offenses for a second. I was talking
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  Speaker 2: about this on the show yesterday. You compare offenses, Miami's
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  Speaker 2: offense versus Clemson's offense. Guys, we're looking at two different worlds.
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  Speaker 2: Two different sports. Yeah, different sports, right. Quarterback, obviously, Darian
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  Speaker 2: Mensah and what Miami's offense can do. Clemson, if this
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  Speaker 2: thing turns into any type of a track meet whatsoever,
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  Speaker 2: if this thing gets high scoring, Clemson doesn't stand a chance.
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  Speaker 2: They just simply can't go toe-to-toe with the offensive firepower
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  Speaker 2: that Miami has. So when you talk about how you
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  Speaker 2: win this game, how you keep this thing close, you
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  Speaker 2: have to muddy it up. You have to steal possessions.
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  Speaker 2: I think you look up, and Clemson, sometimes their best
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  Speaker 2: defense is going to have to be offense. Like Darion
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  Speaker 2: Mensah standing on the sideline sometimes might be your best
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  Speaker 2: defense tomorrow night. And this offense, you talk about a
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  Speaker 2: young quarterback, that's a tall task, right? Going out and
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  Speaker 2: prolonging drives against a good defense, winning early downs, setting
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  Speaker 2: yourself up on third and shorts, second and shorts, and
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  Speaker 2: being able to sustain drives. If they can do that,
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  Speaker 2: if they can get a little help from the weather
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  Speaker 2: and the weather gods and anybody else, any other gods
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  Speaker 2: they can get help from, it'd be nice. But you
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  Speaker 2: just look at what this Miami offense can do, guys.
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  Speaker 2: It is on a different planet. That's what worries me.
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  Speaker 2: That's what concerns me. If this thing gets high scoring,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see any way Clemson can keep pace.
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  Speaker 3: Cole, speaking as a Gamecock fan, it's a fan base
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  Speaker 3: that is just starving for some form of consistency. With Beamer,
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  Speaker 3: there's been some extreme highs, and there's been some low
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  Speaker 3: lows like they've experienced here recently. Why do you think
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  Speaker 3: it's been so hard for Beamer to find consistency as
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  Speaker 3: head coach with this program?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you look at the assistant coaches that he's had,
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  Speaker 2: and people thought coming into the year, guys, that he
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  Speaker 2: finally hit it right. With Kendall Bryles, you bring in
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  Speaker 2: Stan Drayton, you bring in a new offensive line coach,
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  Speaker 2: three new assistants on this staff. And I've said for
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  Speaker 2: years now, for the past couple of years, Shane Beamer,
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  Speaker 2: we all know when Dabo Sweeney was at the peak,
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  Speaker 2: at the mountaintop, he had guys on the offensive staff
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  Speaker 2: that were rolling. He had Brent Venables, right? So like
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  Speaker 2: Shane Beamer, when you talk about inconsistency, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: he's had the consistency within the staff to help him
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  Speaker 2: do his job. And then you look at Shane Beamer himself.
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  Speaker 2: He's a what? He's a special teams guy. He's a
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  Speaker 2: Beamer ball guy. And I'm not saying I know more
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  Speaker 2: football than Shane Beamer. I'm certainly not. But when you get, guys,
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  Speaker 2: when you get into big games and big moments and
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  Speaker 2: big situations and and your head coach is a special
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  Speaker 2: teams coach, are you getting enough out of him during
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  Speaker 2: the game to make adjustments and actually fine-tune things during
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  Speaker 2: the game? Or is it something where he's having to
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  Speaker 2: year in and year out rely on his assistant coaches
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  Speaker 2: to do? And I think Kendall Bryles is fine. He's fine.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think ultimately it might be too little
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  Speaker 2: too late. Guys, they've lost seven straight SEC games. seven
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  Speaker 2: and if they lose to Kentucky Saturday you can do
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  Speaker 2: the math that's eight by the way and by the
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  Speaker 2: way the last SEC opponent they defeated last year was
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky so they haven't defeated an SEC opponent since Kentucky
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  Speaker 2: last year so the inconsistency a lot of things I
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  Speaker 2: would throw in there as to why there's been so
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  Speaker 2: many inconsistencies but when you look at this staff they
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  Speaker 2: thought this staff could come in immediately in day one
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  Speaker 2: with an experienced quarterback experienced receivers and Dylan Stewart. And guys,
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  Speaker 2: things have just fallen by the wayside quickly. And if
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  Speaker 2: they lose Saturday night, we're sitting here on Sunday looking
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  Speaker 2: at our our phones. Refresh, refresh, refresh.
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  Speaker 1: There's no doubt. But with all that said, though, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of feel like, I think Kentucky's getting a bit
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  Speaker 1: overrated because they beat up. Their big win is against
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  Speaker 1: a Texas A & M team that I don't think
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  Speaker 1: is really worth a crap. So I kind of feel
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  Speaker 1: like this might be their moment, Cole, where they kind
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  Speaker 1: of rise up in front of the home crowd and
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  Speaker 1: get that win and maybe calm things down. But Bone
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  Speaker 1: brings up a good point. Even if things calm down
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  Speaker 1: for a week, you got to go to Gainesville next week.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think about tomorrow night?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good point. Life in the SEC, going back
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  Speaker 2: to Clemson a few minutes ago, life in the SEC
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  Speaker 2: is brutal, right? Just a slap in the face. You're right.
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  Speaker 2: Gainesville is not going to be easy, but even if
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  Speaker 2: they do win tomorrow, which I agree with you, I
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  Speaker 2: think they have a very good chance. If you're going
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  Speaker 2: to come out and you're a quarterback who you're paying
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  Speaker 2: a lot of money to, and I know you don't
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  Speaker 2: have Dylan Stewart tomorrow, but you're paying a lot of
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  Speaker 2: money to your quarterback, and he's been there now three years.
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  Speaker 2: If you expect him to come out and have that
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  Speaker 2: game and have the game where he can rally the troops,
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  Speaker 2: get a win, you're right. Maybe Kentucky's a little overvalued
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  Speaker 2: at this point. It's a good team, different Kentucky team
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  Speaker 2: than they saw last year, but I still think when
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  Speaker 2: you look at South Carolina and the weapons they have,
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  Speaker 2: especially at quarterback, This is the game where you expect, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's been tough. You're 2-2. But if you're going to
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  Speaker 2: have that game, this is the game to do it.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned the home crowd. You mentioned Kentucky being a
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  Speaker 2: better team, but not like the team you're going to
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  Speaker 2: face next week. So, obviously, there's opportunity. What worries me, guys,
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  Speaker 2: is Kentucky is running the ball. They're playing with confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow night, like you've got to remember a week ago,
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  Speaker 2: Kentucky guys only for the second time ever in program
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  Speaker 2: history had three guys at running back position. all go
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  Speaker 2: for over 100 yards in the same game. So they're
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  Speaker 2: running the football. And if you come into Williams-Brice and
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  Speaker 2: you can dampen that crowd and you can run the
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  Speaker 2: football and you can take that crowd out of it,
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  Speaker 2: who knows? I'm not saying Kentucky wins. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: it's not a foregone conclusion that South Carolina does win
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  Speaker 2: this game. I think your quarterback, who you're paying a
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  Speaker 2: lot of money to, has to be the guy tomorrow
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  Speaker 2: night that puts a Superman cape on and puts this
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  Speaker 2: team on his back, whatever it takes. and figures out
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  Speaker 2: a way to win this game for the Gamecocks because he,
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  Speaker 2: let's just be honest, he hasn't done that this year.
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  Speaker 2: He wasn't great last year. He regressed last year. And
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  Speaker 2: it's time for Lenora Sellers tomorrow night to be the
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  Speaker 2: guy you're paying all that money to.
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  Speaker 3: It's also a grumpy crowd, potentially. One early score by Kentucky,
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  Speaker 3: one Lenora's bad throw. That's a crowd waiting to pounce
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  Speaker 3: on the product that they're seeing. Get that crowd on
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  Speaker 3: your side early. Gamecocks, please.
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  Speaker 1: If not, they'll be chanting Fire Beamer to your point
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  Speaker 1: bone in no time. He is Cole Bryson. If you're
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  Speaker 1: in the upstate, listen to him on the fan upstate.
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  Speaker 1: He is killing it. Thank you, Cole. Appreciate you, man. Thanks, guys.
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  Speaker 2: You guys rock.