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Episode 25: What the Hell Happened To Us · Bearded And Crunchy

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SPEAKER_04: Mom, when did we become those guys?
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SPEAKER_02: Uh what guys?
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SPEAKER_04: The guys who get excited when the grocery store has their favorite coffee on sale.
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SPEAKER_02: That's not getting excited.
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SPEAKER_02: That's called being financially responsible.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but w we used to get excited about concerts.
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SPEAKER_04: I still get excited about concerts.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and you also went to bed at 9.15 last night.
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SPEAKER_04: The concert started at 9 30.
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SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
0:31
SPEAKER_04: Look, things change.
0:34
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, they do.
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SPEAKER_04: That's what we're talking about today.
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SPEAKER_04: Because somewhere between concerts, bad decisions, and staying out until 2 in the morning, and thinking that we're invincible, we became the guys who make noises when we stand up.
0:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
0:54
SPEAKER_02: And we don't even know why.
0:57
SPEAKER_02: Knees?
0:58
SPEAKER_02: Back?
0:58
SPEAKER_02: Shoulders.
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SPEAKER_02: All three.
1:01
SPEAKER_02: What the hell happened to us?
1:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, but apparently it happened sometime between 1999 and our first Sam's Club membership.
1:11
SPEAKER_02: Welcome to Beard and Crunchy.
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SPEAKER_02: Where we're not old.
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SPEAKER_04: We're just experienced with joint pain.
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SPEAKER_04: And today we're asking the question every aging person eventually asks.
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SPEAKER_04: What the hell happened to us?
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SPEAKER_02: From Goodyear Heights to podcast listeners everywhere.
1:53
SPEAKER_04: Welcome back to Bearded and Crunchy.
1:59
SPEAKER_02: Or should we say, Namaste and Crunchy.
2:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I guess that's a way to open it.
2:06
SPEAKER_04: Uh guys, randomly this week, somebody found found us in India and said, Oh, these guys are so good, we're gonna download everything.
2:16
SPEAKER_04: But thank you.
2:16
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
2:17
SPEAKER_04: Uh if if eventually you get to this episode um and you're capable, um, leave us a comment somewhere.
2:25
SPEAKER_04: We're on all socials, I'll throw it up.
2:27
SPEAKER_04: Uh I mean, literally, right?
2:28
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we're like herpes, we're everywhere.
2:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, so uh yeah, I mean just don't email me about my car's extended warranty for the love of God.
2:40
SPEAKER_04: Please.
2:41
SPEAKER_04: Um, but whoever you are, I'm assuming it's it's it's one person, you know, wanting to binge it.
2:47
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I guess it may not be, but either way, thank you.
2:51
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, apparently we're a big hit in India, at least with this one person we are.
2:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we're gods now.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh we looked this morning, 23 downloads from this one place.
3:00
SPEAKER_04: So I'll take it.
3:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, hell uh so now we're up to what, eight cities?
3:06
SPEAKER_04: Because London this morning, or no, or yeah, eight countries.
3:10
SPEAKER_04: Um worldwide.
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SPEAKER_04: And we're at like 71 cities.
3:16
SPEAKER_04: Never thought still only four continents, so we got a couple to catch up on, but we're gonna we need Oceania.
3:20
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if we're gonna get anybody from Antarctica though.
3:23
SPEAKER_04: So probably not.
3:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna say that we'll be a you'd have to be a really bored uh because we got because India, they're part of Asia.
3:33
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so we still need Africa, Australia.
3:38
SPEAKER_04: That's Oceania now.
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SPEAKER_04: That New Zealand and all that's considered Oceana.
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SPEAKER_04: Um what's the other one we're missing?
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SPEAKER_04: We got North America, South America, Europe, and Asia.
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SPEAKER_04: Antarctica's out.
3:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: We need Oceania and Africa, and then we'll have six of the seven.
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SPEAKER_04: We're almost there.
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SPEAKER_04: Almost?
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SPEAKER_02: All around the world.
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SPEAKER_04: I wonder if there'll be a country in Africa that you know what I mean?
4:04
SPEAKER_04: I I I don't really Whoops.
4:08
SPEAKER_04: Maybe.
4:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, I guess we could.
4:13
SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
4:14
SPEAKER_04: Um I uh Yeah, I I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, I d and I don't say that for any reason that that's not typically a country that that goes to um I don't know how to I don't know how to word this.
4:32
SPEAKER_04: They typically don't care about how fast technology and stuff like that goes, so I don't think they give a shit about you know podcasts and stuff like that.
4:41
SPEAKER_04: I mean I know there's like South Africa and stuff like that, but for future purposes, if we get big, I want that though, because that's oh yeah, a con a continent that I've always wanted.
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SPEAKER_04: Like there's so many countries I'd love to visit over there.
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SPEAKER_04: That'd be sweet.
4:54
SPEAKER_04: Um because you never know.
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SPEAKER_04: I mean, we haven't thought of the logistics, but if you know, if we ever get big enough that we interview and tour, we gotta we gotta figure out your flying situation.
5:04
SPEAKER_04: Well, I'll just get over myself, I guess.
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SPEAKER_04: No, I mean I I I trust me, uh you know, as a person that has fears of certain things, I know how uh crippling it can be.
5:16
SPEAKER_04: So maybe we'll just drug you the fuck up and we'll just call it out.
5:21
SPEAKER_04: Um, but yeah, um guys, we're back.
5:24
SPEAKER_04: Uh what the hell happened to us?
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SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh we're gonna we're gonna talk about it today.
5:29
SPEAKER_02: Maybe answer that question hopefully.
5:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll see.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there like we said in the cold opening, there's a point where you get in your life and you go back and you go, What the hell happened?
5:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
5:43
SPEAKER_04: Um, life goes by so fast.
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SPEAKER_02: It does, you know.
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SPEAKER_02: Especially after you hit your 40s, it's like, holy crap, where did it all go?
5:49
SPEAKER_04: Well, yeah, because then you know you you you you got teenagers or they're close to being adults.
5:54
SPEAKER_04: Like in my case, you know, Sonny's an adult, so right, right?
5:58
SPEAKER_04: She is?
5:59
SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I mean, fuck, it goes by fast.
6:03
SPEAKER_04: Uh you you've been teasing this fucking question, so I'm I'm I'm I'm ready to get to it.
6:18
SPEAKER_02: It's a pretty interesting one.
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SPEAKER_02: I I uh took a little time on this one because I also have to figure out how to answer it myself.
6:27
SPEAKER_02: And I like it a lot, but uh so since we're talking about what the hell happened to us on this episode, if you could go back and talk to yourself from the 90s, so high school age, what would you tell yourself about what was coming up?
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SPEAKER_02: And would your past self believe you?
6:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, the first thing I'm gonna tell him is pay attention to these names that I am going to mention and put every fucking dollar you have into them.
7:04
SPEAKER_04: Google, Amazon, YouTube, and Bitcoin.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh but that's just the let me tell myself this so I don't have to go through my struggling years.
7:19
SPEAKER_04: Right.
7:19
SPEAKER_04: Um, but if I really would, um you know what I would tell myself, man?
7:26
SPEAKER_04: I would say don't listen to Jermaine and be yourself always and never feel bad for how much you love because I felt that was not masculine back then.
7:45
SPEAKER_04: Right, it wasn't um I I you know I have a big heart.
7:49
SPEAKER_04: Um I I I've always said and and I'm truly not just saying this, like somebody can text me something and I can I can genuinely feel the pain when I hear it.
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SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, and I would tell myself that that's a good thing.
8:04
SPEAKER_04: You know, that that embrace it, yeah.
8:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, uh embrace it.
8:08
SPEAKER_04: Um and you know the biggest thing I would say take people at their word.
8:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
8:14
SPEAKER_04: Take them at what they say, and then if they're not, let them see their way out of your life.
8:20
SPEAKER_04: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: Um nobody got time for that.
8:24
SPEAKER_04: Uh but will I listen?
8:26
SPEAKER_04: Hell no.
8:27
SPEAKER_04: Hell no.
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SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, I I mean unfortunately, you know what I think would happen is I would mention the names I said, and I think out of all those Apple or uh uh well Apple was kind of already Google and Amazon were just starting, YouTube didn't start.
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SPEAKER_04: I think once Google and Amazon popped off, then I'd go, oh, wait a minute, that motherfucker was telling me to trade.
8:54
SPEAKER_04: But it would take that first one to kind of pop off before I'd go, oh, okay, he was telling the truth.
9:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_04: Um, but yeah, that's that's my answer.
9:02
SPEAKER_04: I would just I would I would tell myself to you know take people as as how they present themselves.
9:09
SPEAKER_04: Because if that's not truly them, you'll find out.
9:12
SPEAKER_04: True, that is true.
9:13
SPEAKER_04: Um, but but what about you?
9:14
SPEAKER_04: Like you said, you said you you had to think about this.
9:18
SPEAKER_02: I man, it's it's a deep question too when you think about it.
9:21
SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's it's I I know I say this a lot, but you you continually outdo yourself with these questions.
9:27
SPEAKER_04: I mean they're they're definitely well I can I first say fuck you though, because I have to I have to think enough during the week that I try to get yes, yes, yeah.
9:37
SPEAKER_04: Another one, please.
9:40
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
9:41
SPEAKER_04: Um I have to think enough being a father and yeah in a uh uh a companionship uh you know, raise and tie and work and everything that I get with you so I don't have to think right.
9:54
SPEAKER_04: And I make you think um and you make me think, but no, uh what what you know what where where where where do you what would you tell yourself that you think would make that impact?
10:05
SPEAKER_04: And I kind of feel you're gonna have the same answer, but would you believe yourself?
10:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna start off with I would probably disbelieve.
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SPEAKER_02: I would be like, how is this possible?
10:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:17
SPEAKER_02: I would go get away from me.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: Like what happened to you?
10:20
SPEAKER_02: Weirdo, what the hell happened to you?
10:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's mmm boom.
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SPEAKER_02: I would probably tell myself honestly to slow down and start enjoying the little things that man, that's a that's a great answer.
10:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the deep answer.
10:38
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, because that's what we do when we're young.
10:40
SPEAKER_02: We do.
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SPEAKER_02: We just everything a million miles an hour because we're young, we're full of everything.
10:47
SPEAKER_04: I know we try not to do this, but not to cut you off.
10:49
SPEAKER_04: But you recently listened to Dark Side of the Moon through the fool and gave it a listen.
10:53
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
10:54
SPEAKER_04: Think about time.
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SPEAKER_04: Think about that song.
10:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's true.
10:58
SPEAKER_04: Digging away the moments that make up a doll day.
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SPEAKER_04: In the beginning, he's talking about like there's all this time, and then he goes, and uh next thing you you find 10 years have gone behind you, and it's I mean, like that.
11:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and yeah, I mean, goddamn, that's a good answer.
11:13
SPEAKER_04: Keep going.
11:14
SPEAKER_04: I'm sorry, I just had to throw that in there.
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SPEAKER_04: I feel the same way when I look at my kids, especially my oldest, you know, she's 15, and it's like you already understand being a dad too, but you still look at them obviously how they are right now because they're growing up and becoming adults, and but you can still see that little baby that you were holding when when they were born, and it's like their face and their voice change, yeah, but their actions and and the way they wear their emotions never change.
11:43
SPEAKER_04: Right.
11:44
SPEAKER_04: So it it it is weird.
11:46
SPEAKER_04: It's like it's like you always will always still see that little kid, yeah.
11:54
SPEAKER_04: You know, even though they're growing like like Ty's voice is so deep.
11:57
SPEAKER_04: Sometimes I'm like, I think there's another man in the house when I'm fucking talking to him.
12:01
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, dude, what but you know, but but there's but there's a silver lining in that though.
12:09
SPEAKER_04: Um you and I don't I know we've brought it up, but I don't think we talk about it enough.
12:15
SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't think people realize you are married, but technically when it comes to Layla, you're a single dad.
12:21
SPEAKER_04: And and I'm not taking nothing away from your wife because she's I mean, obviously she's great, she's helped you, all that stuff.
12:25
SPEAKER_04: But what I'm saying is like you went and got custody of your child.
12:29
SPEAKER_04: I did, and I don't think that's talked about enough.
12:31
SPEAKER_04: Like you're raising them right, like you know, again, I'm not gonna get into details because it's nobody else's business, but she had a rough, rough goal for a while.
12:40
SPEAKER_04: She did, you know.
12:40
SPEAKER_04: I uh you know, and and again, I'm not trying to shit on other people, but you know, I know her mom had some rough times and stuff like that.
12:47
SPEAKER_04: But what I'm getting at is is is as they're growing, I want you, and I and I mean this sincerely, Bob, I want you to take the time to give yourself grace and realize you are doing a good job.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
12:59
SPEAKER_04: Like, I I I I see the personality in Layla.
13:03
SPEAKER_04: Like, I haven't got to talk to her in person lately, but I see the videos you send me, and sometimes you send me screenshots of things she says about the podcast and stuff.
13:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and but let me tell you, she's amazing.
13:13
SPEAKER_04: She is and and so is Madison.
13:15
SPEAKER_04: Like the last time I came over to hang out, she actually talked to me more than anybody and was when it was and and guys, you guys are doing a great job.
13:22
SPEAKER_04: And and I don't think as parents, I think so many times we see, oh, their grades are slipping this semester, oh she's having boy problems, or oh, he's having you know girlfriend problems, or whatever.
13:33
SPEAKER_04: We don't take the time to see their growth and and and and and everything.
13:37
SPEAKER_04: And I just wanted you to know that like, you know, and not just because I'm your friend, because trust me, I have f have had friends in the past I'm no longer friends with who are not good parents.
13:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
13:50
SPEAKER_04: And you know, I think that kind of goes into our subject today.
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SPEAKER_04: I think what happened to us is our priorities changed.
13:59
SPEAKER_02: I I would agree with you on that.
14:01
SPEAKER_02: It's you know, father and husband first.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, that's that's the big roles that a lot of people don't think about when they're teenagers.
14:11
SPEAKER_02: That's exactly why my younger self would never believe me.
14:14
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna be married and have three kids?
14:15
SPEAKER_02: What?
14:16
SPEAKER_02: No.
14:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, you're not.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: No, you're not.
14:20
SPEAKER_04: And you know, we I I think there's almost a comforter a comfortability in being naive.
14:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
14:32
SPEAKER_04: Um we all know we're gonna get old, but none of us listen to the elders when they say it's gonna get here.
14:39
SPEAKER_04: It yeah, quicker than you think.
14:41
SPEAKER_04: And bro, you wake the fuck up and guess what?
14:44
SPEAKER_04: You're 45, bearded, and crunchy.
14:46
SPEAKER_02: And everything hurts.
14:47
SPEAKER_04: Um you know it it it's it's and and and I think this delves into people having midlife crisis.
14:56
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
14:57
SPEAKER_04: You know, I I think instead of gradually accepting that you're not getting old, you're just getting older.
15:03
SPEAKER_04: And and and there is a difference.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: There is a there is a huge difference.
15:06
SPEAKER_02: I would say that my dad is old.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: I mean, almost 72, he's old.
15:11
SPEAKER_04: That's Gary will be 74 in February.
15:17
SPEAKER_04: He's old.
15:17
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so he's old.
15:18
SPEAKER_04: Really slow in.
15:19
SPEAKER_02: We are getting older.
15:20
SPEAKER_02: We're getting older, yeah.
15:21
SPEAKER_02: Um again, I look at that.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: I it still makes me feel young having teenagers and an eight-year-old.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, the teenagers kind of keep me up to current events on you know, the the slang and which it keeps you from it keeps you being an unk and not a boomer.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: Right.
15:40
SPEAKER_04: That's basically what it does.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: Because a lot of people I've worked with, they go, Man, you're the coolest 40-year-old I've ever known.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I got kids that are teenagers, man.
15:50
SPEAKER_04: I have uh for some reason a lot of the interns and shit, like I still have relationships with some of those those guys.
15:57
SPEAKER_04: They still text me from time to time.
15:59
SPEAKER_04: Hell yeah.
16:00
SPEAKER_04: But that's because you know, when we came up, the older guys are like, you got a lot to learn, young buttons.
16:04
SPEAKER_04: Right.
16:05
SPEAKER_04: Whereas we're kind of like, yo, you know, we we talk to them.
16:08
SPEAKER_04: We're like, yo, yeah, because things will change, like you're young, like you know, do this, do that, you know, like enjoy your life, but do this.
16:14
SPEAKER_04: Where before it was um, but true, you know, we didn't get it all right.
16:20
SPEAKER_04: No, we were supposed to be cool, we were.
16:23
SPEAKER_04: Um we were not that cool.
16:26
SPEAKER_04: Yeah now when we look back, um I I find it funny because we all know that that that fashion and trends and music and everything kind of recycles every 20 or so years.
16:37
SPEAKER_04: It feels like it and well, and and it's weird because you can always tell what was cool and what wasn't by what was brought back.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh Jinkos.
16:47
SPEAKER_04: Oh I one of the things that that that that I have is is bro, there I we all, and it was it didn't matter what group you were part of, we wore baggy ass.
17:00
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like it was like I'm not kidding you, like the skinniest people we go to school with would have two 3x shirts on and size 40 jeans when they weren't 28.
17:11
SPEAKER_04: And like it was just the fashion.
17:13
SPEAKER_04: Like, we just I mean, it took me years into my adulthood to break away, like when skinny jeans got popular, I was like, No, I'm not doing that.
17:23
SPEAKER_04: Um, but eventually, you know, I got talked into.
17:26
SPEAKER_04: I I tell I'm gonna tell this story.
17:28
SPEAKER_04: This was Ty was still pretty little, and we had went to um what's helped me, the outlet mall.
17:36
SPEAKER_04: Lodi?
17:37
SPEAKER_04: Lodi, thank you.
17:39
SPEAKER_04: Uh, we had gone there and at the Adidas store that they had, they had this really nice zip-up jacket.
17:44
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
17:45
SPEAKER_04: And it was a 2X, and I was still slightly big at that time, but it it fit.
17:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
17:50
SPEAKER_04: And and there was a a young black kid, and he was super nice and super friendly, but he he go, I'll never forget this.
17:58
SPEAKER_04: Um, I go, you don't have any any bigger than double XL?
18:02
SPEAKER_04: And he goes, nah, unfortunately, those are sold out.
18:04
SPEAKER_04: He was like, but this ain't the 90s.
18:07
SPEAKER_04: And bro, you know how like I'm like, I am the 90s, bro.
18:13
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, like and he he looked at me, he goes, I could kind of tell, he goes, but that's not fashion anymore.
18:19
SPEAKER_04: He and I go, You ain't getting me into skinny dreams, dog.
18:22
SPEAKER_04: And he just started laughing.
18:23
SPEAKER_04: But I always bring that up because he he literally said this isn't the 90s, but I mean that wasn't it.
18:29
SPEAKER_04: Think about like restaurants and our clothes.
18:33
SPEAKER_04: Neon was everything, everywhere, everywhere.
18:35
SPEAKER_04: I mean, even going into the early 2000s, sure, people were putting neons on their cars, oh yeah, underneath.
18:41
SPEAKER_04: I mean, like it was just everything was neon.
18:45
SPEAKER_04: Like, go back, guys, if you look.
18:46
SPEAKER_04: Now when you look at like Taco Bell and McDonald's and Burger King, they all have similar colored uh palettes and and the kind of thing just like boxes, man.
18:55
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but back then, go back and look at Taco Bell, it was so colorful man.
18:59
SPEAKER_04: They had real like nice pastel kind of Easter coloring to them.
19:04
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what Taco Bell like have you seen the well the new Taco Bell out there?
19:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: The one in Norton, yeah.
19:10
SPEAKER_02: They all they're all starting to look exactly the same.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: Exactly like that.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: You want to know it what it reminds me of now?
19:16
SPEAKER_02: What remember Demolition Man with Sylvester's?
19:18
SPEAKER_02: You better fucking believe it.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: They all look pretty much like that.
19:21
SPEAKER_04: I love that movie.
19:22
SPEAKER_02: Did they ever answer the three seashells?
19:24
SPEAKER_04: Uh no, but I I think we all got you're supposed to scoop, but that's disgusting.
19:29
SPEAKER_04: That's gross.
19:30
SPEAKER_04: Um what do you do with this?
19:31
SPEAKER_04: So off topic, that's a movie they want to remake.
19:37
SPEAKER_04: And I actually no, but you know what?
19:38
SPEAKER_04: Okay, no, no.
19:39
SPEAKER_04: I I like that.
19:40
SPEAKER_04: You know why?
19:42
SPEAKER_04: Because I I hope they do it with we now have all of that technology or now what the next dystopian future is gonna look like.
19:51
SPEAKER_04: I'll give you that.
19:51
SPEAKER_04: So we'll see.
19:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh, a lot of people shit on that movie.
19:54
SPEAKER_04: I actually thought it was a good movie.
19:56
SPEAKER_04: Good acting 90s acting.
19:58
SPEAKER_04: I mean, the acting was shit, but I mean it was Sylvester Stallone.
20:01
SPEAKER_04: That's why they brought Wesley Snipes in because he's he was a good actor.
20:05
SPEAKER_04: And uh uh uh Rob Schneider, Sandra Bullock.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_04: Um, there's a lot of good actors in that.
20:12
SPEAKER_04: Um Benjamin Brett.
20:14
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
20:15
SPEAKER_04: Uh Simon Phoenix was played by Wesley Snipes.
20:18
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
20:19
SPEAKER_04: Um, but there's a couple.
20:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh do you remember uh spending the night at your friends or friends, spending the night at your house, and you get in the phone book and picking a random name and number and prank calling the fuck out of it?
20:34
SPEAKER_04: Jerky.
20:35
SPEAKER_04: Oh, the jerky boys.
20:37
SPEAKER_03: The jerky boys.
20:38
SPEAKER_04: Um I dude, the shit that we used to we used Oh my god.
20:45
SPEAKER_02: Congestion today.
20:47
SPEAKER_04: There was You good?
20:50
SPEAKER_04: Congestion today.
20:51
SPEAKER_04: Um and another thing I'm gonna bring up that uh is just a dead technology, but I I thought we should bring it up, but uh we thought we were cool with them, and that's Pagers.
21:03
SPEAKER_02: I never had one, believe it or not, I never owned one.
21:06
SPEAKER_04: So you want to hear a funny story.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: Uh I think I was like 13 or 14.
21:18
SPEAKER_04: And one of the uh one of my friends in the neighborhood, they had had a couple for various reasons.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: I wanted to know uh and he had one and he was like, Hey, you want this?
21:31
SPEAKER_04: He was like, It's not on, but you can, you know, whatever.
21:33
SPEAKER_04: So I would wear it thinking I was cool.
21:36
SPEAKER_04: It wasn't on.
21:37
SPEAKER_04: Right.
21:37
SPEAKER_04: But my dad found it.
21:40
SPEAKER_03: Oh no.
21:41
SPEAKER_04: And I'll never forget uh I came home from school because I didn't take it to school.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:48
SPEAKER_04: I only wore it like when I was out hanging with friends and shit.
21:50
SPEAKER_04: Right.
21:51
SPEAKER_04: And I come home and he's sitting in his chair, and I see it sitting on his his little coffee table, and he goes, What the fuck is this?
22:00
SPEAKER_04: It's a pager.
22:01
SPEAKER_04: He goes, He goes, only two fucking people carry pagers.
22:07
SPEAKER_04: Doctors and drug dealers, and you ain't got no fucking degree.
22:10
SPEAKER_04: Oh shit.
22:12
SPEAKER_04: Um It doesn't work.
22:14
SPEAKER_04: I was like, Dad, it's not even on.
22:16
SPEAKER_04: He goes, I don't care.
22:17
SPEAKER_04: It's the perception.
22:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
22:19
SPEAKER_04: And at 13, 14 years old, I didn't get that.
22:23
SPEAKER_04: Looking back, I'm like, okay.
22:24
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're right.
22:25
SPEAKER_04: Which eventually I got one anyway, because that's how he would contact me before cell phones.
22:29
SPEAKER_04: Like, yep.
22:30
SPEAKER_04: You know, pagers were, you know, you'd get the phone number in 911 emergency 411.
22:36
SPEAKER_04: I need info.
22:37
SPEAKER_04: And then when you had a girlfriend, it was 1434.
22:40
SPEAKER_04: I love you.
22:41
SPEAKER_04: Um, there was all that kind of shit.
22:43
SPEAKER_04: But um, yeah.
22:45
SPEAKER_04: Uh what about you?
22:46
SPEAKER_04: What are some things you, you know, you know, we thought we were cool.
22:51
SPEAKER_02: Thought we were cool.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: You know, the the funny thing is, is my mom had a pager through work, and that's how we'd get her to call us back real fast.
22:57
SPEAKER_02: We'd say 911 when it was never a 911 situation.
23:01
SPEAKER_02: Except for the one time when I put my hand through the door and had to get stitches in my arm.
23:05
SPEAKER_02: That was a 911 situation.
23:07
SPEAKER_02: And then she was like, it was like the boy crying wolf where she was like, I don't want to call you fuckers back.
23:12
SPEAKER_04: Like and the one time you actually need her, yeah.
23:15
SPEAKER_02: And then finally she called back, and it's like, this is an actual emergency.
23:19
SPEAKER_02: I need to go to the hospital.
23:20
SPEAKER_02: It's like, what?
23:21
SPEAKER_02: So things that I thought were cool.
23:24
SPEAKER_02: Well, I I I made that joke about Jinkos, man.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: I had Jinkos at the tail end of high school.
23:28
SPEAKER_04: Well, and again, not to cut you off, but that's what I was getting with the baggy clothes.
23:32
SPEAKER_04: Like the the the all the grunge, all those guys, you guys had ginkos, and we just wore fat farm and shit like that, just two sizes big.
23:38
SPEAKER_04: So that's why I said we were similar.
23:40
SPEAKER_04: Similar to the biggest.
23:42
SPEAKER_04: I never I never had Jinko jeans because I did have a wallet with a chain at one point.
23:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I had a bunch of those.
23:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh but yeah.
23:49
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, anything else?
23:51
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I I mentioned a couple, I didn't know if there was anything.
23:54
SPEAKER_04: I mean, there's a lot of things.
23:56
SPEAKER_04: Fucking parachute pants.
23:58
SPEAKER_04: Parachute pants, yeah.
23:59
SPEAKER_04: That was a big one.
24:00
SPEAKER_04: Remember uh what were those animal print fucking sweat type pants we had?
24:06
SPEAKER_04: What were those called?
24:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember but they were called.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: They were called like zoo something.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Do you know what I had, what I thought was uh cool at the time?
24:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh I was still heavily into hip-hop before I changed over to Transition.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
24:20
SPEAKER_02: Um I I had uh necklaces with uh big medallions like you know, like they were wearing back then, the the no limit, the death row.
24:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
24:31
SPEAKER_04: I had a couple of those as well.
24:32
SPEAKER_04: I had the no limit one.
24:34
SPEAKER_04: I never had a death row chain, but I did have the no limit one.
24:37
SPEAKER_04: Um hell, I even bought uh a fake grill at one time.
24:43
SPEAKER_04: I mean, this was later in the later 90s when it was like 1920, but I wanted a grill so bad back then.
24:48
SPEAKER_04: Uh we didn't think we were cool.
24:51
SPEAKER_02: We did think we were cool.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: I I I my daughter reminds me of that constantly.
24:55
SPEAKER_02: She's like, hey dad, back when you were cool, I'm like, wait a second here.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm still cool.
25:02
SPEAKER_02: No, dad, you're really not cool.
25:04
SPEAKER_02: When you played music, you were cool.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, uh fair enough.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm just an aging dude with teenagers that like to bust my balls over dumb shit now.
25:13
SPEAKER_02: Now I know how my dad felt.
25:15
SPEAKER_02: I know shit.
25:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, alright.
25:19
SPEAKER_04: I mean, then I mean let's talk about this then.
25:21
SPEAKER_04: What what are I mean, what are some things that you miss though?
25:24
SPEAKER_02: You want to know what I miss about back then?
25:26
SPEAKER_02: Especially 80s and 90s.
25:28
SPEAKER_02: I miss the simpler times.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: I miss being able just to go hang with my friends down the street and have to be back by the time the street lights come on, or you're calling your parents to make sure it's okay to stay the night or you called it checking in.
25:42
SPEAKER_02: Checking in.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: You guys don't understand that now because you have phones.
25:46
SPEAKER_04: Well, and that's the thing.
25:47
SPEAKER_04: I I I understand the accessibility feature of it, but there's something freeing and like we were allowed that freedom to get away for a while and do what we wanted.
26:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, did we always make the best decisions?
26:11
SPEAKER_04: No.
26:11
SPEAKER_04: No, but typically we were just kids, right?
26:14
SPEAKER_04: We were just kids.
26:15
SPEAKER_04: Um, and and we give our kids opportunities like that too.
26:18
SPEAKER_04: We do, but we can also access them immediately.
26:20
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
26:21
SPEAKER_04: And you can Where back then there was times where we could have gone off and none of our parents knew where any of us were.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: And now we have no, we have location on our phones.
26:31
SPEAKER_02: And if my kids' location blips for a second, I freak out.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, what did you go?
26:34
SPEAKER_04: What are you doing?
26:35
SPEAKER_04: You you know what I miss?
26:36
SPEAKER_04: And and I know there's still good ones of these, but the experience, and that's Saturday morning cartoons.
26:44
SPEAKER_04: Dude, yes.
26:44
SPEAKER_04: Like, it was the one time a week I got the TV.
26:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
26:48
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
26:49
SPEAKER_04: Because I didn't have a TV in my room until I was in double digits.
26:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was yeah, probably 10 or 11.
26:55
SPEAKER_04: So you know, I think like the the experience of having like it was my turn to have the TV, and it would there was always and and you know, as much as I like being able to get a full season and binge it, there was something of watching that episode and wait a week to figure out what was happening.
27:17
SPEAKER_04: I agree.
27:17
SPEAKER_04: You would go to school and talk with your buddies, oh hey man, I wonder what's gonna happen.
27:21
SPEAKER_04: Like, yep, and they're like, Oh, I think this is gonna happen.
27:23
SPEAKER_04: You're like, no, I can't, because remember they said this.
27:27
SPEAKER_04: That was that was the fun of it.
27:29
SPEAKER_04: Um, and and I'll throw in one more real quick.
27:32
SPEAKER_04: Um I I know they're still around, but we have to be honest, we don't see them, and that's ice cream trucks.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we talked about this before in an episode.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I I I miss it though.
27:42
SPEAKER_04: I do too.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: Because there was a special thing about it when the neighborhood kids would come out to the ice cream truck.
27:48
SPEAKER_04: That that one jingle would completely transform the block for a minute.
27:53
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
27:54
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
27:54
SPEAKER_04: Everybody's rushing, trying to get money from their mom, seeing if they have uh you know allowance money left over, maybe maybe gr maybe at Granny's house and she'll give you some money.
28:06
SPEAKER_04: But what are what are some what are some some things some other things you miss?
28:10
SPEAKER_02: So this is gonna be deeply personal to me.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: And it's just because I had such a good relationship with uh my grandparents growing up.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Not so much later on with my grandpa after my mom died and stuff, but uh growing up, man, we would spend holidays over there.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: And just being able to have family get togethers in the summer and barbecue.
28:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Christmas Eve, we were always over there.
28:36
SPEAKER_02: I missed the just the sights, the smells, the the cooking, the togetherness.
28:43
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's it's a lot of family-oriented stuff for me.
28:46
SPEAKER_04: It always for us, it always seemed like it was the one time we all got together and nobody was arguing.
28:50
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
28:51
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
28:51
SPEAKER_04: Everybody got along with it.
28:52
SPEAKER_04: It was the same my family.
28:53
SPEAKER_04: Once my grandmother died, that kind of I think I think traditions are are are a thing of the past now.
29:00
SPEAKER_04: I do too.
29:01
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I think they still exist, but it's not it's it's it's just not the same.
29:06
SPEAKER_02: I I try to do stuff with my kids now on Christmas Eve.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: We typically do a Christmas Eve box, which is this is weird that it's September and we're talking about Christmas, but it's not that far away.
29:18
SPEAKER_02: No, but we we do a Christmas Eve box with the kids where we do matching pajamas and we do that.
29:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, they get popcorn and uh candy bar and coloring book or a book.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
29:29
SPEAKER_02: And then, you know, we sit around Christmas Eve evening after eating dinner and everything, and you know, the the popcorn and the candy bar, that's kind of like fun dessert snack stuff.
29:41
SPEAKER_02: And we watch Christmas cartoons.
29:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
29:44
SPEAKER_02: That's what we do.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: We'll watch The Grinch, Charlie Brown, like just all that nostalgia stuff that we grew up watching as kids.
29:52
SPEAKER_04: I we we so we actually as a kid, uh, my parents, um, we actually it wasn't just pajamas, but I got to open up one gift on Christmas Eve, and they you know, they always chose it.
30:08
SPEAKER_04: Right, because they knew.
30:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
30:10
SPEAKER_04: But um we we do the same, we do pajamas um every year.
30:15
SPEAKER_04: That's what we open on on uh Christmas.
30:19
SPEAKER_04: But yeah, I mean, traditions are definitely you know, you don't hear about family reunions as much.
30:27
SPEAKER_04: But I think we should.
30:28
SPEAKER_04: I I I I agree, those are things, you know, like I said, at least when my grandmother was alive and we had like we would go to her house for Easter and like Christmas Eve, and then we have like 4th of July parties at my uncle's house.
30:42
SPEAKER_04: Um but once she passed and and the torch had to be held over to like my uncle and my dad.
30:47
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it didn't we did it for a little while, but then it kind of went to the wayside.
30:51
SPEAKER_04: And alright.
30:54
SPEAKER_04: Now the fun one.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: What we don't miss um I don't miss slow ass internet in the late 90s, mid to late 90s.
31:04
SPEAKER_02: Remember ALT?
31:05
SPEAKER_04: Getting on the internet, like, dude, just to fucking see a boob was a hassle.
31:09
SPEAKER_04: Horrible.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: Like, you guys don't know how good you got it.
31:12
SPEAKER_04: 15 minutes for a song to download?
31:14
SPEAKER_04: What?
31:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, that shit was terrible.
31:16
SPEAKER_04: Um I can tell you what I don't miss are alcoholic choices.
31:22
SPEAKER_04: Dude, we would drink the bottom of the barrel Zima, Mad Dog, Wild Eye, Wild Irish Rose, Boons Farm, um just uh fucking uh Kettle One vodka, steel reserve, steel reserve, old English.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: Um, but it gets you fucked up.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
31:45
SPEAKER_04: We needed one of those.
31:46
SPEAKER_04: We needed them multiple times.
31:47
SPEAKER_04: The one thing I will say about Zimas is you could change that.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
31:51
SPEAKER_04: We would put Jolly Ranchers in them.
31:53
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
31:53
SPEAKER_04: And it would at least change the flavor.
31:55
SPEAKER_03: Nasty, man.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: By themselves, they were shit.
31:58
SPEAKER_04: But you know what our biggest thing was, because we liked hip-hop, St.
32:03
SPEAKER_04: I Special Brew.
32:04
SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
32:05
SPEAKER_04: All right.
32:05
SPEAKER_04: Um, we fucked with those a little heavy, and the mad dog uh hope Jermaine don't care that I tell this, but uh so if you remember when we were in high school, I know you're a couple years younger than me, but still around the same time, they started doing that thing where like if you went to buy like cigarettes or alcohol, they had to look at your ID because they had cameras.
32:28
SPEAKER_04: The camera couldn't zoom in, so they couldn't see the case, so all they had to do was look.
32:31
SPEAKER_04: Well, I won't mention his name, first of all, because I don't like the guy, and still to this day I probably punch him.
32:36
SPEAKER_04: But at the time we were cool, but he was working at the drive-thru at that circle K down by East.
32:41
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
32:41
SPEAKER_04: And we could buy liquor because all he had to do was this.
32:45
SPEAKER_04: Look, yep.
32:46
SPEAKER_04: And uh our big thing was a fucking fifth of mad dog was like nine cents.
32:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
32:52
SPEAKER_04: Uh so we all liquor nasty shit, and he would hide them under his mattress and box springs in the basement at Granny's, and we would get fucked up.
33:00
SPEAKER_04: Oh, I know another one.
33:01
SPEAKER_04: I don't know if you drank this that often, but Carlos Rossi, Carlos Rossi Ryan, and uh we drank that because them came in them big ass glass gallons and shit.
33:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
33:11
SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
33:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I definitely don't miss that.
33:14
SPEAKER_04: Rot gut.
33:15
SPEAKER_04: Um what else?
33:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't miss the hangovers from it.
33:19
SPEAKER_02: That's the god.
33:21
SPEAKER_04: I don't miss hangovers at all.
33:22
SPEAKER_04: No, me too.
33:23
SPEAKER_04: Especially those.
33:24
SPEAKER_02: That's that's the biggest thing.
33:25
SPEAKER_04: Oh man, I forgot one of the biggest ones.
33:28
SPEAKER_04: And we've shared videos with each other.
33:31
unknown: Everclear.
33:32
SPEAKER_04: Oh guys, I'm gonna tell you this.
33:35
SPEAKER_04: If you want to grow up in a matter of seconds, go drink Everclear.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: Take a shot at Everclear.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: No, don't even take a whole take a half a shot.
33:43
SPEAKER_04: Just sniff that shit.
33:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like rubbing out.
33:45
SPEAKER_04: It smells like diesel fuel.
33:47
SPEAKER_04: It's oh um tastes like diesel fuel.
33:49
SPEAKER_04: It'll fuck you up, though.
33:51
SPEAKER_04: Two shots of that, and I can guarantee if you're not a big drinker, you'll be done.
33:54
SPEAKER_04: You're you're done.
33:55
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
33:56
SPEAKER_04: Um your D will be in the dirt.
33:58
SPEAKER_04: Ooh, buddy.
33:59
SPEAKER_04: You want to talk about whiskey, Dick.
34:01
SPEAKER_04: You ain't never had Everclear, Dick.
34:02
SPEAKER_04: Nothing works after you're drunk on Everclear.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Literally nothing.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: God.
34:08
SPEAKER_02: Um don't miss, don't miss.
34:12
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's you know.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
34:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't miss I don't miss being corded to a telephone, to the wall.
34:22
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:23
SPEAKER_04: That shit was annoying.
34:24
SPEAKER_04: And then remember, like, before cordlesses, everybody could afford cordlesses.
34:29
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
34:29
SPEAKER_04: Then they would they would sell those really, really long ones.
34:34
SPEAKER_04: So like if you had the one that was hanging in the the dining room or the kitchen, you could go to the next room.
34:40
SPEAKER_04: We had one like that.
34:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
34:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't it's a lot.
34:46
SPEAKER_04: I mean, when I was thinking about it, a lot of the shit that like I even though I know a lot of the kids today would be like that's corny.
34:53
SPEAKER_04: I look back like, yeah, but I miss it.
34:54
SPEAKER_04: Or I mean, uh I don't, you know, they'd be like, I I I completely went back to it.
34:59
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
35:00
SPEAKER_04: Like there's some things like you know, most of the stuff I missed, but I'm I'm kind of struggling, like I said, just the the drinking and stuff.
35:08
SPEAKER_04: No.
35:08
SPEAKER_04: Technology.
35:09
SPEAKER_04: You know what?
35:10
SPEAKER_04: Nope, I got one.
35:11
SPEAKER_04: As much as I like physical media, buying a CD and then the single you bought it for being the only good song on the fucking album.
35:19
SPEAKER_04: Right.
35:20
SPEAKER_04: That I hated.
35:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I agree.
35:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, until if you remember places like Walmart, um, and then like Sam Goody and those had those listening stations.
35:29
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
35:30
SPEAKER_04: That that was cool.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: And then the birth of the uh illegal download started on your home computer, and then you could just make a you could burn a CD.
35:38
SPEAKER_04: I I still bought new music.
35:40
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, of course.
35:41
SPEAKER_04: But if I needed to get older shit or like underground shit, or like back then you had to go on word of mouth or like exact rock magazines or hip hop magazines, and you'd be like, I ain't know they made that.
35:51
SPEAKER_04: Let's go to Manster.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
35:53
SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
35:54
SPEAKER_04: And then and then you would you would download whole catalogs and and stuff like that.
35:59
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
36:00
SPEAKER_04: Um What else don't I miss?
36:09
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I can take it to a somber place.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
36:13
SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't miss being misunderstood by my father.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
36:18
SPEAKER_02: Well, that's fair.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: That's fair.
36:21
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm lucky in that my uh me and the old man have a pretty common ground now.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: I understand that because at 18, 19, you know, we all thought we knew everything and we didn't know shit.
36:32
SPEAKER_04: I I I get that part, but what I don't get is him just allowing me to be me, though.
36:37
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
36:38
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's the part that kind of went to the wayside.
36:42
SPEAKER_04: Like, too many N-words, you know.
36:44
SPEAKER_04: Right.
36:45
SPEAKER_04: You know, we all know I was the hip-hop kid.
36:47
SPEAKER_04: I I talk about it all the time, but that's because I want people to know that just because you look one way, but you have some sort of like or passion about that doesn't mean shit.
36:57
SPEAKER_04: Um Yeah, you actually look more like the rock guy than I do.
37:01
SPEAKER_04: I mean just saying you're not wrong.
37:05
SPEAKER_04: I'm not wrong.
37:06
SPEAKER_04: Um, especially tattoos, ponytail.
37:10
SPEAKER_04: Um, but the moment I open my mouth, you can kind of get an idea.
37:14
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: Um you look like how I sound.
37:17
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
37:18
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
37:19
SPEAKER_04: Uh but yeah.
37:22
SPEAKER_04: Um, I the this is one that I this was a good one, and I still don't know if I have an answer for it, but uh the things we swore we'd never become.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: Airplanes.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: Uh, my father.
37:37
SPEAKER_02: I swore I would never become my father.
37:39
SPEAKER_04: We both agree on that one.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: And unfortunately, my son going through his youth has tested my patience, and I have slowly started to notice that I am becoming my father.
37:53
SPEAKER_02: In fact, my wife reminds me of that quite often nowadays.
37:56
SPEAKER_04: And that, no matter the type of relationship you have with your father, that is like daggers.
38:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:04
SPEAKER_04: Especially in my situation with the type of relationship I would have.
38:07
SPEAKER_04: When Rihanna knew to wake me up, she knew to say that.
38:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:11
SPEAKER_04: You know, like you're really starting to sound like your dad.
38:14
SPEAKER_04: Right.
38:14
SPEAKER_04: Uh, and that's something, you know, I I've said it before, and I tell people this all the time, but one of my favorite lines from Eminem is he always goes, and I want to thank my father too, because he taught me what not to do.
38:26
SPEAKER_04: That's true, and that's kind of where I'm at.
38:28
SPEAKER_04: Like, that's why I do not rule with an iron fist.
38:30
SPEAKER_04: I very, and I mean very rarely even raise my voice, because that wasn't all I learned how to do was not get caught and not show emotions.
38:43
SPEAKER_04: Right.
38:44
SPEAKER_04: As opposed to actually correcting whatever was going on in my life at that time.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: So that that's one thing I can thank him for was that he gave me that.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: And that was just that was that generation, because our dads were pretty they're close enough in age, they're pretty much the same gen.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: They're they're both baby boomers.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: And you know, my dad, granted, he's softened as he's gotten older.
39:06
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, we can have conversations about anything now.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: But man, growing up, yeah, it was literally that.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: It was ruling with an iron fist, man.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: You fucked up, you're getting your ass whipped.
39:16
SPEAKER_04: And it was And and even if I didn't get my ass whooped, it was it was the verb, it was the verbal, it was the disappointment, it was the you're better than this, you're better than this.
39:25
SPEAKER_04: Like, no matter what, I was always better than that.
39:27
SPEAKER_04: And it's like it gets to a point, it's like, yeah, but I don't feel like right.
39:30
SPEAKER_02: You make me feel, but I try not to do that to my kids because I don't want them to feel that way.
39:36
SPEAKER_04: Um and you walk a fine line.
39:39
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna stick to that, but I'm I'm gonna go a little a little, it's adjacent.
39:45
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
39:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, but I remember vividly I was about ten years old, and it was it happened, it didn't happen a lot, but my dad put my hands on my mom a couple times.
39:59
SPEAKER_04: It didn't have I mean, obviously, one is too many, yeah.
40:02
SPEAKER_04: But I don't want to make it seem like my dad was a serial abuser.
40:05
SPEAKER_04: I mean, if you do it more than once you are, but you get what I'm saying, it wasn't a consistent thing.
40:08
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I remember my dad going over to my uncle's and they had gotten into a big fight, and I remember going to my mom and she was crying, and she goes, She's trying to clean herself up because she sees that I'm I see her now.
40:25
SPEAKER_04: And she actually for once let her goes, I just I'm tired of it.
40:29
SPEAKER_04: She was like, nothing I do is good enough, like all this stuff.
40:32
SPEAKER_04: And I remember telling her, I said, Mom, I just want you to know I will never treat a girl like that.
40:38
SPEAKER_04: No, and I took that, you know, I haven't been perfect in my relationships, but I never treated them the way my dad did, you know, my dad did.
40:45
SPEAKER_04: And you know, I'm not trying to take it to a sad place.
40:48
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to get to something funny, but it's just something that I memorize because of course, you don't want to end up like that.
40:53
SPEAKER_04: Well, we've said this before, you know, people talk about broken homes, divorce, separations, but people never talk about the kids whose parents stayed but should have divorced.
41:03
SPEAKER_04: Right.
41:04
SPEAKER_04: And that was the situation I was in.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: Mine divorced a little bit too late, honestly.
41:08
SPEAKER_02: So you're kind of in the same road I was.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: I was, I think I want to say I was 17 going on 18 or 18 when it was finalized.
41:16
SPEAKER_02: No, I was 17 when it was finalized.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, they just I mean, granted, I'm not gonna get into it, but what my mom did was wrong, what my dad did was wrong too.
41:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, my dad was never the physical abuser when it came to my mom, but the verbal diarrhea that would come out of his mouth sometimes back then and it That's what I kind of vowed because we were I wish my sister was here to talk about this too, but we would both agree that what happened to us in the 80s and 90s would be abuse now, physical abuse.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: And I I did vow on that one when my daughter was born.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: I said I will never ever be that way with with any of my kids.
42:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I didn't either.
42:05
SPEAKER_04: Uh I've I spanked Ty, I think, twice.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've spanked him, but like you have to do.
42:12
SPEAKER_04: Literally twice.
42:13
SPEAKER_04: Um, and it ate me up.
42:15
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it bothered me nuts.
42:17
SPEAKER_04: I I I hated it um because I want my kids to respect me, right?
42:25
SPEAKER_04: I don't want them to fear me.
42:27
SPEAKER_04: Right.
42:27
SPEAKER_04: And I feared my father.
42:29
SPEAKER_04: Right.
42:29
SPEAKER_02: But I also want my kids to be able to come to me with anything.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: That's my point.
42:33
SPEAKER_04: And the way and and and again, I I see how your dad is, he's a great guy, but the way they were raised, right?
42:38
SPEAKER_04: We couldn't do that.
42:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they were not accepting of those types of things, not at all.
42:45
SPEAKER_04: Um, and I mean it's it's and and not blaming all on them because we did become adults and and we didn't know how to change that behavior, but we also didn't change it immediately.
43:02
SPEAKER_04: Right.
43:02
SPEAKER_04: Um, but thanks to therapy and noticing those things and seeing those things, um, we're able to not follow in their shoes.
43:09
SPEAKER_04: And again, I'm not I'm not saying I came out perfect.
43:13
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I made my own mistakes and did my own.
43:15
SPEAKER_04: Me too.
43:16
SPEAKER_02: I still make mistakes all the time.
43:18
SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
43:19
SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, I tell Ty all the time, I'm like, bro, that's why they put erasers on pencils.
43:24
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
43:25
SPEAKER_04: Um we can get out of that now.
43:28
SPEAKER_02: I didn't mean to bring the mood down.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: So we spent a month and a half talking music decades.
43:35
SPEAKER_02: What the hell happened to our music, bro?
43:38
SPEAKER_04: I two things.
43:40
SPEAKER_04: I don't think music happened to us.
43:43
SPEAKER_04: I think we happened to music.
43:44
SPEAKER_04: We happened to music, okay.
43:46
SPEAKER_04: Um, and what I mean by that is is, and we've we've talked about this at length our emotional connection to music and just to life in general took a more Focused uh uh uh uh uh path than it did before, so we didn't have that connection to music.
44:10
SPEAKER_04: Right.
44:10
SPEAKER_04: Um but I also think the evolution of how we consumed it yeah, it makes it different.
44:17
SPEAKER_04: Well, not that because when you went from records to cassettes and then cassettes to CDs, there was a little bit of time.
44:23
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
44:23
SPEAKER_04: But then we went from cassettes to CDs to MP3s to streaming in a matter of 15 years, and we didn't really get acclimated to it anymore.
44:35
SPEAKER_04: Not at all.
44:35
SPEAKER_04: And and so I think for me, those are the two main things that happened to our music, and our interests changed.
44:45
SPEAKER_04: Changed, yeah.
44:46
SPEAKER_04: Like, I gotta be honest, like people always say, Oh, well, Snoop Dogg doesn't rap like he did back in the day, and neither does yeah, because they're not gangbanging and selling drugs anymore.
44:57
SPEAKER_04: We know what they're talking about.
44:59
SPEAKER_04: They can't talk about that shit anymore.
45:01
SPEAKER_04: Uber millionaires.
45:02
SPEAKER_04: Um, but what you know what what are what are your thoughts, you know, especially with even though our second or third loves are each other's favorite genres, it's not our main.
45:12
SPEAKER_04: So what what do you think happened to your music?
45:16
SPEAKER_02: A lot of my music has the bands that I grew up listening to and loving and still love to this day, they're aging too.
45:25
SPEAKER_02: A lot of them are becoming old men, not just older but old men.
45:30
SPEAKER_04: They all look different.
45:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's hard for me to have the same feeling I had at 18 or 19 listening to a Metallica song at you know, now 43 and they're 60.
45:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
45:44
SPEAKER_02: Because I go, well, you don't have any angst left, you're fucking millionaires.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: You you do it because you love to to make music.
45:51
SPEAKER_02: I listen to it because I love to listen to music.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
45:54
SPEAKER_02: That's how I've changed with that.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: And it I think it is a combination of I myself getting older, the artists themselves getting older.
46:03
SPEAKER_04: You're getting older together.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
46:05
SPEAKER_02: They're growing up together.
46:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, not not saying that there aren't newer artists out there that I just, you know, I I always thought that as I aged my taste would get a little bit more mellow.
46:18
SPEAKER_02: And if you heard some of the shit I listened to now, you'd go, no, not at all.
46:22
SPEAKER_02: Dude, I think some of my shit got heavier.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's my my thing.
46:25
SPEAKER_04: It's heavier, it's nastier.
46:27
SPEAKER_04: I, you know, I always liked heavy metal, I just never liked the screaming and shit.
46:31
SPEAKER_04: Like it just never appealed to me.
46:34
SPEAKER_04: But there was a point where I also didn't like it too heavy.
46:37
SPEAKER_04: But now my second favorite rock band of all time is Five Finger Death Punch.
46:41
SPEAKER_02: And they're pretty heavy sometimes.
46:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, they do a good balance.
46:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, they do.
46:45
SPEAKER_04: Um, but they're on the heavier side.
46:47
SPEAKER_04: Um you know why that is, don't you?
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, why?
46:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh because we've both been married, we have children that are teenagers, so we have a lot of pent-up anger and rage just from everyday life.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a it's an outlet.
47:02
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
47:03
SPEAKER_04: That's why I still go back and listen to gangster rap.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
47:06
SPEAKER_03: See, you didn't think about that, did you?
47:08
SPEAKER_04: No, I didn't.
47:09
SPEAKER_04: That's a good one.
47:09
SPEAKER_04: See?
47:10
SPEAKER_04: Um When do we get old though?
47:16
SPEAKER_03: Um when did we get old?
47:20
SPEAKER_04: I I I can tell you something that was told to me that made me go, okay, now I am old.
47:27
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
47:28
SPEAKER_04: And it was a few years back, and I don't remember where we were, but there was one of ties I I don't remember how it came about, but there was a kid when they asked how what year I was born, and the response was, You were born in the 1900s.
47:54
SPEAKER_04: And yeah, the late 1900s.
47:57
SPEAKER_04: In a very quick moment, I wanted to fight the fuck out of that kid.
48:03
SPEAKER_04: Um, obviously, I never would have gone there, but for a split second, I was like, Oh, I should slap the shit out of you.
48:10
SPEAKER_04: Um, but uh I I wrote this down.
48:15
SPEAKER_04: I think it should be the uh for me, I think it was the 2010s.
48:20
SPEAKER_04: And and I think you agree because you know you had technically got married in 20 the 2020s, yes, but you had been in a serious relationship before that.
48:28
SPEAKER_04: You had already been in a relationship with your now wife.
48:32
SPEAKER_04: Um, yes, I had gotten married in the 2010s, we had tie in the 2010s.
48:37
SPEAKER_04: I think it was the 2010s because our focus and our responsibilities drastically changed.
48:44
SPEAKER_04: Yes, and you're right.
48:47
SPEAKER_04: I I I think that was kind of when we were at that crossroads.
48:52
SPEAKER_04: Do we go straight, do we turn right, or we turn left?
48:54
SPEAKER_04: And we were like, we should probably go left.
48:56
SPEAKER_02: Right.
48:56
SPEAKER_02: And if I could split myself into two, I'd go left and right.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:00
SPEAKER_02: Because man.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: But no, yeah, I I would say when I when I had Layla, well, not when I had Layla, but when Layla was born, I think that really changed perspective that it wasn't all about me anymore.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: That I'm responsible for this little thing.
49:16
SPEAKER_02: And then obviously watching as she's growing, and then you know, Bubba comes along seven years later with my wife, and you know, you're already a dad at that point, so the second one, you know, the memes that you always see about your firstborn compared to your secondborn, it's fucking true.
49:33
SPEAKER_04: It it it it is, it is you well, but that's you you learn what works and what don't.
49:40
SPEAKER_04: But more importantly than that, you know what I think you realize is that even though they're siblings, they're different, and you can't approach them the same way.
49:49
SPEAKER_04: Every kid is different, yeah.
49:50
SPEAKER_04: And so I I think that's when you go, oh, okay, now I see.
49:56
SPEAKER_04: That's why when you see people that have three, four, five kids, you know, the old one goes, but you let them get away with so much.
50:02
SPEAKER_04: And it's like, well, I realized that I was a little too helicopter with you.
50:06
SPEAKER_04: Right.
50:06
SPEAKER_04: It's like you live and learn, you know.
50:09
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and especially with children, with it, like I said, everyone being different.
50:13
SPEAKER_02: And you know, for me, it's Layla's at that age now where it's like I I'm still teaching her things here and there, not like when she was younger, first going into school and stuff like that, but now I kind of feel like I'm I need to start preparing her for you know growing up, becoming an adult, and then down the road when I'm gone, how to live without me.
50:38
SPEAKER_02: Like I spend all this time teaching you to do the right things and how to you know grow up and blah blah blah.
50:45
SPEAKER_02: And now I've got to teach you how to start thinking about living without me.
50:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, that hopefully that's not for a long, long time.
50:54
SPEAKER_04: What now you're you're teaching them how to be taught.
50:58
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
50:59
SPEAKER_04: Next you have to teach them how to live.
51:01
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
51:02
SPEAKER_04: And I and I think you know it's the same thing with me and Ty.
51:05
SPEAKER_04: Like we, you know, we always go to breakfast on Sundays, and he was acting kind of funny this morning, and we got into a little tiff at breakfast.
51:15
SPEAKER_04: Really?
51:16
SPEAKER_04: Nothing crazy.
51:16
SPEAKER_04: Okay, but he he irritated me a little bit because he seems to think that when I say things like, bro, I know you better than anybody.
51:27
SPEAKER_04: Right.
51:27
SPEAKER_04: That I'm full of shit.
51:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's how they say And it takes him to sit there and and and and swell in it for a minute, and then he goes, damn, he's right.
51:37
SPEAKER_04: You know, like and and and I think that's the thing, like we we we try so hard to make sure that we do right we we do our job correct, yes, that I think we lose sight of letting them be them.
51:56
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
51:56
SPEAKER_04: That's what happens, and and I I fall short of that daily.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: I will tell you this, and you already know from your stepdaughter, but you know, with Ty, it's gonna be a different story because that's you know, that's your child, right?
52:10
SPEAKER_02: Like full on.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: But entering teenage years, I I'm a few years into teenage years with mine, and there are various times where yeah, they'll piss you off to where you see red, you want to throttle them, but there's still those times, and I had it the other night, in fact, Friday night after the football game, my kids were exhausted from everything that went on.
52:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, they'd been up since three o'clock in the morning.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: My daughter was slap happy.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: And I texted you, I said, My daughter's slab happy.
52:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: And she's literally, because she had been in her uniform in the morning, took it off, they walked around the rock hall, they came home, she came, we got them from school, they napped for a couple hours, then they played on the football field in the same uniforms they were sweating in in the morning.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: So we're sitting downstairs at like 11:30 Friday night, and she goes, I smell like ass.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: I can smell my feet, it's disgusting.
53:04
SPEAKER_02: I smell like I just I need a shower.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: And we're just we're we're laughing, we're cutting up, just like those are the moments that you gotta slow down, take that snapshot, yeah.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: You gotta hold on to those and enjoy it.
53:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because those are the moments that when they get older, you're not gonna get back, and those are fun because exactly that we're laughing, we're cutting up, like we're she's having a riot because she's exhausted and slap happy, and we're you know, just there's there's that one popular TikTok or whatever, if you've seen it on Instagram, yeah.
53:40
SPEAKER_04: But I've seen it many times, and I'm sure all of us have, but it's that one where it shows you it shows an adult with a child, and it says, one day you'll pick 'em up for the last time.
53:53
SPEAKER_04: And it's true.
53:54
SPEAKER_04: What you don't realize, and I'm getting chills, is how fast it comes.
54:01
SPEAKER_04: My son can lift me now.
54:03
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
54:04
SPEAKER_04: Um, and and I think what did it for me was is I don't know who I was talking to, but I can't remember, but I was texting him, I was texting somebody and I was like, I'll be back, or I'll message you in a minute.
54:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm gonna go tuck tie in.
54:21
SPEAKER_04: And they were like, You still tuck tie in?
54:23
SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Yeah.
54:24
SPEAKER_04: I was like, there's gonna be a time when he doesn't want me to exactly, and that time has come.
54:29
SPEAKER_04: Oh no.
54:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he gets in his bed on his own, he doesn't ask for me to cover him up.
54:34
SPEAKER_04: And you know, and and I and and I get it, you know, he's a boy, and and and you know, he he he wants to feel, you know, like a strong man, and I don't I don't, you know.
54:45
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
54:46
SPEAKER_04: But I I I'm I I'm actually have a point here.
54:49
SPEAKER_04: It goes back to what you say, but there's those points where that kid still comes out, exactly.
54:57
SPEAKER_04: And it'll be something like, All right, Ty, dinner's ready, and he'd go, you know, he still needs it.
55:03
SPEAKER_04: He goes, Papa, can you make my plate for me while I finish homework?
55:06
SPEAKER_04: Right.
55:07
SPEAKER_04: It's those.
55:07
SPEAKER_04: That's and that goes to what you were saying.
55:09
SPEAKER_04: I'm just adding Ty.
55:10
SPEAKER_04: Uh-huh.
55:11
SPEAKER_04: Like you said, that she was slap happy, and you hold on to that snapshot.
55:14
SPEAKER_04: And that's when he does shit like that.
55:15
SPEAKER_04: Like when we're at the grocery store, and he still gets excited on a snack that he liked when he was a kid.
55:21
SPEAKER_04: Right.
55:21
SPEAKER_04: It's like, those are the things that I go, I need I need to, and my therapist tells me all that time, you know, I have a problem of overthinking, overanalyzing, and dwelling on the negative so much.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: Enjoy the moment.
55:32
SPEAKER_04: Well, she said, what you need to do is those good moments, yep, take them, wrap them up, and put them in your pocket.
55:39
SPEAKER_04: So when you're down, you go to that, yep.
55:42
SPEAKER_04: There's something that you can rely on.
55:44
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
55:45
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
55:45
SPEAKER_04: And and I think that's, you know, that's a that's a big thing.
55:51
SPEAKER_04: But i if I can summarize before we move on to the next segment, um, you know when I and this just hit me, you know when I think we truly got old?
55:59
SPEAKER_04: When our kids seen us as old?
56:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
56:02
SPEAKER_04: I think I think that's the moment when we went, okay, we're not cool anymore.
56:05
SPEAKER_04: And I know we're we're cool as we're cool parents.
56:10
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
56:10
SPEAKER_04: But as individuals, we're not cool to them anymore.
56:13
SPEAKER_02: And the thing that was like, oh I think what really got me was when my kids started using the slang that they're using now, and I'm like, what the hell is this shit?
56:23
SPEAKER_04: See, seven skibbity reads.
56:24
SPEAKER_04: Skibity read his toilet ass.
56:26
SPEAKER_04: Get the what the f just speak English, man.
56:29
SPEAKER_04: And and and like I don't think they realize, but my son went through a thing where it was cu everything.
56:35
SPEAKER_04: What up, cu instead of cuz?
56:37
SPEAKER_04: You have have you gotten bruh?
56:39
SPEAKER_04: Oh, dude.
56:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
56:40
SPEAKER_02: Isn't that funny?
56:41
SPEAKER_04: I'm bruh bruh.
56:42
SPEAKER_04: Bruh out.
56:43
SPEAKER_04: Not bruh, just bruh.
56:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, bruh.
56:46
SPEAKER_04: Bruh.
56:46
SPEAKER_04: And like, and it's always in a shittiest.
56:49
SPEAKER_04: Bruh.
56:49
SPEAKER_04: Bruh.
56:50
SPEAKER_04: But I'm like, I'm like, you don't bruh me.
56:52
SPEAKER_04: You want to find out what's some.
56:53
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna show you.
56:54
SPEAKER_04: I told him, I I told him one time, I was like, you want to find out who my two real bras are?
56:59
SPEAKER_04: And he's just like, what are you talking about?
57:01
SPEAKER_04: I went.
57:02
SPEAKER_04: Right.
57:02
SPEAKER_04: Keep it up, dog.
57:04
SPEAKER_04: He was like, because we will we will go out in the yard and box, and I promise you won't win.
57:10
SPEAKER_04: Alright, man, let's.
57:11
SPEAKER_04: We got we got two more to get to, and this next one is This might be fast.
57:18
SPEAKER_04: Like I I I'm I'm getting emotional just thinking about it.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:22
SPEAKER_04: But when you when you said we had to do this segment, I agreed, but I'm getting I'm getting chills.
57:32
SPEAKER_04: Remember when we had time?
57:34
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
57:35
SPEAKER_04: And uh I do.
57:36
SPEAKER_04: I'm trying not to get emotional because you know if we think about it, you know, and and and and I'm not trying to be a downer, but with health issues and stuff, we me and you are most likely over halfway through our life.
57:52
SPEAKER_04: And yep.
57:54
SPEAKER_04: You know, I I talked about it earlier.
57:57
SPEAKER_04: Was it on the bull session or was it earlier in this episode?
58:00
SPEAKER_04: But the part in you listening to Dark Side of the Moon and Time, guys, earlier this.
58:04
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna throw it up so you guys go listen to it.
58:07
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
58:07
SPEAKER_04: Um, if if you want to talk about a song that encapsulates how quickly our approach to life changes, go listen to Time by Pink Floyd.
58:19
SPEAKER_04: Um I I can remember even in my 20s, you know, going, I'm fucking bored.
58:28
SPEAKER_04: Right.
58:28
SPEAKER_04: Like I got all this time and nothing to do.
58:31
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
58:31
SPEAKER_04: And now I get home from work and I'm like, I still gotta edit, I gotta get my shit ready for work tomorrow.
58:39
SPEAKER_04: Ty needs help with homework, I gotta get dinner.
58:43
SPEAKER_04: And we lose our grip on how important the time that we have is.
58:52
SPEAKER_04: Um, but uh fuck man, this is I I can't believe I'm getting this emotional over this.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
58:59
SPEAKER_04: But what you know, I I don't even know how to approach this question because I can't really think of a time when it it was almost a slow process.
59:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
59:11
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
59:12
SPEAKER_04: You know, it was like we slowly started to have less time in the day to where you just have to push off tasks to the next day because there's just not enough time.
59:23
SPEAKER_02: Well, I think, you know, when we're in our late teens, early twenties, into our mid-20s, you know, it's one of those situations where, you know, you can work a first shift job, work all day, and then you can go out.
59:34
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter what day of the week.
59:36
SPEAKER_02: You could go out and go to the bar, to the club, hang out with your friends.
59:41
SPEAKER_02: You could just go do whatever you wanted to do, get two, three hours of sleep, get right back up, go work a full eight, ten, twelve hour day.
59:48
SPEAKER_02: And you could do it three or four days in a row.
59:50
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
59:51
SPEAKER_02: And now at I started noticing it when I hit about 3233.
59:58
SPEAKER_02: I wanted to be in bed by, you know, nine, ten, eleven o'clock at night.
1:00:03
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm like, I gotta go to work in the morning.
1:00:04
SPEAKER_02: I got a kid that's, you know, might need something.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_04: It was the same when, you know, we would go to a lot of things at Rannon's cousins and stuff like that.
1:00:14
SPEAKER_04: And they're a little bit younger than me.
1:00:17
SPEAKER_04: And I'd remember they'd be like, yeah, you know, we're gonna have a Halloween party this weekend.
1:00:21
SPEAKER_04: It starts at 10.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_04: Great.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_04: I'm in bed at 10, bruh.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_04: And I'm like, can you start it at 8 and we'll just come at 8 and everybody else can come at 10?
1:00:31
SPEAKER_04: Like, um, but you know what I think that is?
1:00:37
SPEAKER_04: Is I think we became more appreciative of peace and silence.
1:00:41
SPEAKER_04: That too.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_04: Um, I I I think we understood how important sticking to our routines and and and having our comfort.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you know, and and I know getting out of your comforts, I get that, but there comes a point when your life is hectic and and and problematic and just stressful enough that you know the five, ten, fifteen, however long drive home from work becomes your sanctuary.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, of course.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_02: Because it's peace and quiet, and just it's just you and the car and the road and don't get me wrong.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_04: I'm here for everybody that needs me.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_04: But I like the 10 minutes when nobody needs me.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:01:25
SPEAKER_04: You know, I love being the person that people rely on.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_04: I love being able to help people when they're down and having bad days.
1:01:32
SPEAKER_04: But I also enjoy the time when I can lock the door.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: When I can lock the door and take a shit.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: In all honesty, that's what that's like my day right there when I can.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: If I'm up on the weekends, like so yesterday, right?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_02: Saturday, I got up at seven.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_02: I had to pee.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm a man of a certain age.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: When your bladder says, Hey, wake up, you better go.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: It's either that or you're unlucky and you piss the bed.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: I've done that a couple of times, unfortunately.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm not going there.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_02: But I'll agree to that sentiment.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_02: But anyways, I got up at seven.
1:02:10
SPEAKER_02: Everybody's crashed from the late night and the long day Friday.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm up at seven, I go to the bathroom, I go turn my coffee pot on, I make my cup of coffee, and I go, it's like ten after seven.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, well, hopefully nobody'll get up for a while.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: I sit down in my comfy chair, start drinking my coffee, scrolling TikTok, Facebook, whatever I'm doing, playing a game.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_02: I look up, it's 15 after eight.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_02: I've wasted an hour.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm like, well, hell, everybody's still asleep.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_02: Just gonna enjoy the quiet.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I did.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_02: I didn't bother nobody.
1:02:45
SPEAKER_02: I made a second and a third cup of coffee.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_04: It was great.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_04: I people ask me all the time, they're like, you know, why do you get up before everybody and every night?
1:02:54
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_02: I can enjoy the solace.
1:02:56
SPEAKER_04: And when and when we say that, that doesn't mean like we don't like hearing our our spouse's voices are.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_04: Of course.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_04: Of course.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_04: But it's just quite a lot of people.
1:03:05
SPEAKER_04: You have to understand that like parents, period, but I'm I'm I'm gonna make the focus on us as husbands and and and and and dads.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_04: Mm-hmm.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_04: Like moms truly get unconditional love.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_04: Dads are loved by how they provide and and and and how present they are.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_04: And it's nice to have the moment when you're not expected to be a superhero.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_04: And I I I think that's important because you know we are all Batman.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:03:49
SPEAKER_04: We're Bruce Wayne and we're Batman.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_04: And I think so many people want us to be Batman all the time, but they forget that Bruce Wayne is a person too.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_04: That's right.
1:04:01
SPEAKER_04: And I think we as men need that time.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_04: And I'm privileged in the fact that I have a long drive.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_04: So I can get that piece.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I can see that.
1:04:11
SPEAKER_04: However, the older I get, the more traffic pisses me off.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, dude, right.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_04: So now there's another stress, but I still get my time to just be with you.
1:04:22
SPEAKER_04: Just be with me.
1:04:23
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:04:25
SPEAKER_04: Alright.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_02: Would we go back?
1:04:27
SPEAKER_04: I was gonna say, final question before we call it.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_02: Oh, we got a little more to go.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_04: Okay.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_02: We got shuffle it.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, I forgot about shuffle it.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_04: Anyways, um Would we go back?
1:04:38
SPEAKER_04: This could be a short answer.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_04: You won't with everything I've been through in my life, with how rough some of my childhood and teenage years were, um and with all the ways I would have wanted to approach things differently and in situations I wouldn't.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_04: No.
1:05:02
SPEAKER_04: Because and this is gonna sound cliche and corny, but all of those things that happen to me, you know, whether self-inflicted or not, right, has allowed me to become who I am today, sitting with you recording this specific episode.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_04: And obviously, you know, they say don't live with regrets.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_04: Are there some things I wish I would have d done differently?
1:05:31
SPEAKER_04: Yes.
1:05:32
SPEAKER_04: Of course.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_04: But also those were lessons.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_04: Lessons learned.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_04: And I I don't know if I would have been the father that I have been to Ty, or been the friend to you or Jermaine or Vonnie that I had been if I hadn't gone through.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_04: Now, there's a caveat to that because of what I went through also allowed me to treat some.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_04: People shitty as well.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_04: Sure.
1:06:01
SPEAKER_04: Not not intentionally out to be a shitty person to them, but shit happens.
1:06:06
SPEAKER_04: Um, but my honest answer, um, just because of every time traveling movie ever existed, butterfly effects.
1:06:16
SPEAKER_04: I don't want anything to change.
1:06:17
SPEAKER_04: That's yes, I've been through a ton of shit, but I don't I truly don't want anything to change.
1:06:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be with you on that.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't want anything to change how I've turned out, how how my life has been.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_02: Um Yeah, I I think I'm I'm just yeah, I'm good on that.
1:06:36
SPEAKER_02: I I'm good with where I'm at, man.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm good with the person I am.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_04: You know uh you you learn more from your failures and the things you did wrong and from heartache than than anything else.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't want to change any of it.
1:06:54
SPEAKER_04: No, and it it's made me wiser and above all, it's made me a better man.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think so too.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_04: You know, I I seen a TikTok the other day and it said no matter how much you care for somebody, and it's hard to stomach, not everybody's meant to be in your life forever.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_04: Um, no matter how hard that is to hear.
1:07:21
SPEAKER_04: Um so yeah, I I what I will say is I would hope that if there's somebody in my past that that comes across this and they go, oh shit, he was an asshole to me, understand that not only was that not truly who I was then, that's definitely not who I am now.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_04: Right.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_04: And I want to apologize to anybody that still feels like I'm dirty or wrong because I I'm not that person.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_04: I never those weren't my intentions.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_04: But yes, to answer the question, nah, I I I wouldn't go back.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_04: Me neither.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_04: I I I mean my life has been hard.
1:07:58
SPEAKER_04: Um I've been through way too much.
1:08:00
SPEAKER_04: Um, but lessons learned though.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, but you know what scares me the most?
1:08:07
SPEAKER_04: I wouldn't have the friends and I wouldn't have my kids.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_04: Right, exactly.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_04: And those are the two things I refuse to live without.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_04: So that that's I I don't want that to change.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_04: I just don't.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: I agree.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't want that to change either.
1:08:21
SPEAKER_02: That's why I wouldn't I wouldn't want to go back.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_02: Would I tell myself to chill and maybe be, you know, maybe I I would give advice.
1:08:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, give good advice.
1:08:32
SPEAKER_02: Well and and i i mean but even then could could cause the butterfly effect.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_04: That's why when with your opening question, I would just tell myself love hard and take people as they present themselves to you.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_04: Um I I'd keep it short and sweet again as to not you know, even if let's say it didn't fuck up the the the the actual like say the having kids or whatever, you still don't know what little things could happen in that time.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_04: To make you different.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I have to say, uh, I'm still on my journey, but I'm I'm I'm happy with who I am right now in this moment.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_04: Me too.
1:09:16
SPEAKER_04: So I don't I I don't want to change any of that.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_04: No, sir.
1:09:21
SPEAKER_04: Is it time?
1:09:22
SPEAKER_04: It's time.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_04: I love shuffling.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_04: Shuffle it.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_04: And now we can go to like songs and just Yeah.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_04: I should have put Bombay the Hard Bay on.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_04: Just in case it popped up, but Namaste.
1:09:42
SPEAKER_02: Uh I'll let you go first.
1:09:45
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_02: Sounds good to me.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm gonna kick it off with uh The Conflagration by Stone Sour.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_02: That's a that's a good group.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: I like uh Like Me Some Stone.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, I like Corey Taylor.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_02: So I like Slipknot, I like Stone Sour.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_02: Uh Dear Me by Brett Young.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: So country.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh Get Loose by Rob Zombie.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_02: Let's see, that is what four.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_02: No, three three.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_02: Uh Decadence by Disturbed.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_02: That's the first time Disturbed has cracked the list, I believe.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_02: That's a good song.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_02: Or no, did they crack?
1:10:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't remember.
1:10:22
SPEAKER_04: I can look.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_04: I I keep a running list of I keep one playlist that I add every song that we add every week.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_04: So at one point it'll just be a playlist of every song we've Hell yeah.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm gonna go some old school stuff and the alarm that goes off.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_02: I even was paying attention to try to stop it and I still blew it.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: Fuck it.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: By now they'll know what song it is.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_02: Um going old school in the 70s, uh, if I'd only come and gone by Dr.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_02: Hook.
1:10:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm not familiar with that.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: I'll have to look that up.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_02: Bro, you're gonna have to look some Dr.
1:10:55
SPEAKER_03: Hook up, man.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: Uh, they do a song, oh God, what's it called?
1:10:59
SPEAKER_02: Um it's called uh Freaker's Ball.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_02: And they were very controversial back in the 70s because, well, they were different.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: And their lyrics were well, there was a song they had called Looking for Pussy.
1:11:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh we'll put it to you that way, then it's like, well, they're not they had radio friendly hits like Queen of the Silver Dollar and Cover of the Rolling Stone and you know, things like that, as I'm just blowing this off the top of my head, and you're like, what?
1:11:25
SPEAKER_02: But they had deep cuts, they had deep cuts that were not radio friendly.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: Especially back then, they were like, uh, no.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: Because we just covered decades.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_02: Alright, I want to hear your shuffle it.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's way more rounded than mine was.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: Or is it straight hip hop today?
1:11:44
SPEAKER_03: No.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_03: No?
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: Nice.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_03: No, we're we're going a little all over the place.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_03: Eh, a little.
1:11:55
unknown: Okay.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_04: First one is Eat It.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_04: Nice.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_04: I mean, we all I've said many times in my fanhood.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_04: And then A Love It Would You Call Me, Big Pop.
1:12:08
SPEAKER_04: Biggie.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that's on there.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_04: And then I have LA Song by Bad Wolves.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, okay.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_04: I love that album.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I like that album.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_04: Uh then I have A Great Day for Freedom by Pink Floyd.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_04: That was off the division bill.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_04: Okay, that's what I think.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_04: It came out in '94.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_04: I actually really like that.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_04: That's that's one you might actually like to.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
1:12:30
SPEAKER_04: Uh and then I got Green Light.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_04: Can you take a guess who that is?
1:12:36
SPEAKER_04: No, I have no idea.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_04: That's John Legend featuring Andre 3000.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_04: Really great song.
1:12:43
SPEAKER_04: That's awesome.
1:12:44
SPEAKER_04: Uh, and that is 25.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_04: That's a rounded definitely.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_04: That's a good rounded, rounded list.
1:12:50
SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
1:12:51
SPEAKER_04: All right, Bob, give it to me.
1:12:54
SPEAKER_04: I need, I need I I'm assuming it's gonna have something to do with what the hell happened to us.
1:12:59
SPEAKER_04: Ooh.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_04: Um.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_02: Kind of, but it's got a couple it's got a double, a double context.
1:13:06
SPEAKER_02: A double entendre.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_02: It's got a little bit of what the hell happened to us, and it's uh also doing with beards.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:13:12
SPEAKER_02: Uh not so much a well, not a question joke, but uh I used to hate facial hair.
1:13:20
SPEAKER_02: But then it grew on me.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_04: And on that note, we'll see you next week.