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Michigan Misses On Top Recruiting Target, Big Ten Basketball Schedule Info Drops · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday May second. I'm your host,
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Tom Moore. The Akron game in one hundred and twenty one days, the
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game against Michigan in two hundred and twelve days. Today is kind of an
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in between kind of day. The transfer portal is closed, but it could
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technically be another day before the final batch of paperwork goes through for some guys,
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so we are not closing the book on this spring transfer portal just yet.
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Probably do that on tomorrow's show. And of course, the Southern Swing
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road trip for Kevin and Mark is about to start, but the boys haven't
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out at Buckeye Huddle dot com as well, let's talk a little recruiting.
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And I know this is an Ohio State show, but the enemy of my
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enemy is my friend, or whatever whatever that statement is. And I'm not
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going to say that anybody from Ohio State is necessarily going to say that Kentucky
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is a direct recruiting peer. Ohio State has lost a kid now and then
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to Kentucky, but it is infrequent, so they aren't necessarily recruiting the same
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kids all the time. One player from the state of Ohio that it looked
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like was going to not only get away, but potentially head north its Cleveland
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Heights running back markuse Davis. Tony offered leaves to go to the team up
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north and the Crystal Balls roll in for Michigan to land him. And recently
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just at the at at an underman camp, he talked about that he and
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Ohio State aren't exactly vibein anymore. And that's fine. Well, imagine,
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to my surprise, I wake up this morning and I'm playing around on the
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computer, and a little bit into the morning, I look and suddenly I
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see Marquise Davis committed to Kentucky and I'm like, that can't beat Cleveland Heights.
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Markuse Davis. He's supposed to be going to Michigan. So I look
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a little closer. And the graphics a little deceiving because it's got an SEC
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graduate patch on the jersey on the edit. So I'm like, all right,
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I am I really confusing myself here getting the picture looks like him?
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Pull up his profile, it looks like him. Lo and behold it is
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him. So Tony Alford's first impression for Michigan fans is a miss on a
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guy that Michigan was allegedly in a huge dominating position for now. We won't
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ever really know what Marquise was thinking all along. That would be up to
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Marquise to tell us, And that would be up to Marquise to tell us.
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Honestly, I'm not saying he would deceive us, but you don't know
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what you're thinking from moment to moment. And have a chart. Well,
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from six to six oh three I was leaning this way, but from six
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oh four to six six oh nine, So Marquis Davis committed to Kentucky.
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Now there's a long way to go. It is May. We've got to
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get to December. Lots of the finest kids out there commit to Kentucky at
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one point, only never to end up at Kentucky. So I wouldn't say
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that this one is dead. But Davis certainly did give quotes at one point
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about not wanting to be somebody who commits and then commit somewhere else and commit
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somewhere else, that his commitment is, you know, his bond kind of
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put words into his mouth because I don't remember the exact wording on the article
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I read, but he doesn't seem like somebody who was just trying to lock
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in a spot. When you're as talented as Davis, you don't need to
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lock in a spot. Somebody will be there for you at the other end.
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So if we take that off the table, it really seems as if
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this was just a major collapse by Michigan that weren't able to close the deal.
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I don't know Kentucky was able. Vince Morrow, who recruits the state
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of Ohio pretty well for the Wildcats, was able to get in there and
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not only land him for Kentucky, but keep him away from Michigan. Now
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Ohio state fans are going to like, see, see this is what happens
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the two that got away really for Ohio State under Alford that I mean that
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I'm going to talk about. I'm not going to talk about Richard Young because
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they never had Richard Young. Things looked really good there and then they didn't,
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And that's just how recruiting works sometimes. But the two that got away
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from Ohio State were both South Florida kids, and Ohio State lost them to
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Miami. So last time I checked, Lexington, Kentucky and Cleveland Heights didn't
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get any closer to one another. So what exactly happened there? Now,
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let's not forget that Michigan is on three years probation and show causes were issued
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to certain people involved in cheeseburger gade and everything else, and there's a whole
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nother case hanging on that hasn't necessarily gotten to the NOA stage when those of
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allegation stage or anything like that. I don't know if a player's opinion on
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a school is going to change on a dime on something that's you know,
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short of you know, three year bowlban or like that type of news.
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But I'm not sure why markuse Davis decided to commit today to commit to Kentucky.
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How any that happened. But there are a lot of sad pandas up
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in ann Arbor right now because this one was supposed to go in their direction
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and it didn't. And I've had plenty of Ohio State fans given me celebratory
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high fives about this, and I'm like, I'm just here to cover the
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news. They're like, well, you can give me a high five.
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I'm like, just so you don't stand there looking foolish trying to high five
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nobody, I'll give you a high five. But an interesting point, nonetheless,
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the transfer portal has closed, at least has closed in terms of the
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door being open. There's technically a day left today left for grad transfers,
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but for non grad transfers, that door closed at midnight. Now that doesn't
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mean that we won't hear about players today or tomorrow. As long as you
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start the process before the door close, they hold the door open for you,
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and that process can take up to forty eight hours. So somebody who
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came in at eleven fifty nine Eastern, we may not know what their status
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is until Thursday night, and realistically maybe even until Friday morning. So if
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a kid goes into the portal, and you're like, well, he's not
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a grad transfer. What's up. Well, that's what's up. Gavin Wimsat
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at Rutgers apparently has lost the quarterback job to the transfer from Minnesota, the
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Ethan, the Greek player. I could never get his last name properly.
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I don't have it in front of me to sound it out, so I'm
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just not going to butcher it and look stupid. I'd just rather take a
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pass on it. So, Gavin Wimsat, you wonder if that news that
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came out today was a result of well, he's already put himself in the
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portal that he was told prior to the portal closed, and he's in that
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purgatory right now. Of he's in the portal, but he's waiting on the
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clearing house to rubber stamp the paperwork and put all of that through and have
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him officially show up on those roles. The point being on here is Ohio
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State had six players enter the portal, which, again I think, all
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said and done, is about the number that people were expecting, five six,
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seven. Strangely enough, Ohio State did not have as much offensive line
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portaling as I expected. Enoch Vamahai left or is leaving. He isn't left
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yet. He hasn't landed anywhere. Obviously, we saw we saw some secondary
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departures. We saw johat Carter, We saw Cedric Hawkins. You know we
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have already. We've already seen Sat Hawkins land at UCF. The the other
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news was a little bit, you know, a little bit more recent.
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We've not seen to hot Carter's landing spot. One position where Ohio State did
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not see any attrition is quarterback. And I guess I'm a little surprised.
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I'm surprised yet, I'm not surprised yet. I'm surprised. Let me explain
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five quarterbacks. A lot of quarterbacks to carry through. You would think that
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somebody who just realized that they are either an upper classman and fourth on the
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depth chart. And I'm just making up examples here, so the please don't
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read into what I'm saying. I'm not insinuating anything. I'm not using my
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little orphan anti Dakota ring here. I'm not trying to send secret messages to
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just four people, just making up scenarios. So I mean, if you
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are buried and you're an upper classman or you're an underclassman, and you feel
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that you're buried. Basically, if you're buried, why not leave? But
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with that being said, if you're an underclassman and you can get a year
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developing at Ohio State, even if you're running scout team, but you're still
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being worked with by Chip Kelly, by Ryan Day, by some of these
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offensive staffers. Would you not be in a better position to do that when
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you still have several years of eligibility on the back end to go in during
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the quote unquote the early portal period and find somewhere to land there and maybe
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be in a better position to go into somewhere and be the guy that year.
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I don't think there are a lot of places that don't have their quarterback,
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or at least a group of quarterbacks that their quarterback is going to have
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to come from. So what are you gaining by leaving Ohio State? May
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first, May second, May third? I mean getting into the portal prior
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finding somewhere missing springball at your new school. What has you believing that you're
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going to come in and start somewhere at that point being greatly behind the eight
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ball, Whereas maybe I mean, yes, you could go somewhere sit be
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the backup quarterback. Maybe get in you never know, You never know while
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you learn the offense. I mean, if you're a good enough quarterback,
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I think a lot of schools are going to be interested in trying to add
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you. But I think that sitting a year, getting a little bit more
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experience under your belt, if you have the years of eligibility left, is
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a better call. And I've really only kind of talked myself into this recently
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because I was pretty adamant that Ohio State was going to lose a quarterback at
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this point just to get down to the more traditional number of four. And
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yeah, I can see programs that certainly probably still need to address quarterback team
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up North being one of them. Alex Orgi is not the answer. He's
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not. But I don't know how any program out there that runs any sort
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of offense of moderate complexity is going to bring a guy in, really get
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him on campus in June and then in June, July and August is suddenly
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going to impart, especially a young quarterback with enough knowledge to be able to
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come in and be the guy now. I mean, even an older quarterback.
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At least they can draw from their knowledge somebody who has a year starts
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or a year and a half or two years or whatever. At least you
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know, at some point football's football. And yeah, you could go back
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and say, well, in high school, an eight yard hitch is the
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same as an eight yard hitch in college, isn't it? Well, yes,
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but no, at the same time, it's not really the same thing.
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And I think it's just going to be difficult for somebody to just up
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and leave. I mean, we did not see to my knowledge, I
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only watch it as closely as I can a ton of quarterbacks bolting. I
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mean, obviously the Gavin Wimsat news from today is a little bit of news,
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but didn't see a ton of it, and I certainly didn't see a
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ton of it of being like, wow, I can't believe that guy's leaving.
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He had a great situation where he was, so I think there is
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something to be said about sticking around. But I wanted to talk a little
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bit more about the portal in general, and it's just I had mixed feelings
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at first about the Portal as it is in terms of unlimited transfers and everything
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else. And I don't know if I've necessarily moved off of that. I
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understand getting kind of bound legally and having to be like, well, we're
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just going to have to allow this, and it is what it is.
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But we have just seen too many instances of some players already starting to starting
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on the path of a different school every year. If you're an NFL GM,
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is that a red flag for you? I mean, I guess every
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situation is different. If it's a kid who's doing that because his head coach
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keeps getting fired or elevated to another position somewhere else, that's one thing.
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If it's a kid who just can't grow roots anywhere for one reason or another,
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is that that's going to be more problematic to me as as a as
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a GM about why, you know, why are you constantly moving? I
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mean, a player who's leaving to go find opportunity. You went to school
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for three years and you played on special teams, and you went to school
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b and you were an all conference player and you did this and this,
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Well that's a good move. If you just bounce around and bounce around and
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bounce around, does that create an issue? I mean, I don't know.
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I mean, and that's not really the concern of the portal. That
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should be the concern I guess of each player come into their own their own
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decisions and things along those lines. But I will end my portal conversation on
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this thought. And it is something I say every year, so bear with
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me if you've heard me say this in past years. But my biggest concern
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about the portal is not Caleb Downs who goes from one fantastic program in Alabama
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to another fantastic program in Ohio State or whatever. My concern are the players
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who enter the portal never to emerge. If you enter the portal the school
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that you're portaling away from, sure they can bring you back. Hey,
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I changed my mind. I want to come back. Bryce and Rogers entered
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the portal. Eh, maybe I was a little too hasty in that decision.
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Comes back. Ohio State's like, please come on back, we want
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you. But there are a lot of kids, and I'm talking in like
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the lower classifications who enter the portal don't don't come back or never heard from
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again. Do they finish college somewhere? Is that a concern for them?
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I mean, are they going back home and just you know, hanging out
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and playing video games and not you know, not improving themselves as a person.
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I don't know, but we hear numbers every year of you know,
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twenty two hundred kids did not emerge from the portal. And again we're talking
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D three whatever. That's not necessarily a great scouting system in D three to
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be looking at that type of stuff. If you're a D one player,
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probably easier to drop down to one, double A or two or three than
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it is for somebody from three. Where are you dropping down to at that
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point? If you know, if you weren't getting it done at that level
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in AIA, that's a different that's a different organization. It's not the n
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C two way. That's a n ai A And there's a division one in
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a Division two there. So I don't I'm not saying that I want to
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see a case of where you get automatic, automatically saved by your school if
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you don't get picked up in the portal. That's passing on a lot of
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additional costs to schools. But conversely, I don't like the idea of a
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kid who might be the first person in his family to ever go to college,
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goes to a D three school, plays okay for two years, some
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third uncle gets in their ear and it's like, hey, you you're bigger
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than this. They go in the portal, they find out no, you
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ain't, and they don't end up anywhere. Probably don't have the means to
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go and finish college on their own without a scholarship. So the system has
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failed that kid. That third uncle's failed that kid too. But the fact
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that I can come up with that type of situation so easily doesn't means that
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it's real. It's there. It's not like it's oh well, noon,
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is just he's just going to the edge of reality to find a situation that
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could theoretically happen. This happens all the time, and I don't like that.
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I don't like that. Now, I'm not saying that college football,
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college sports in general has to bend over backwards to save these kids from themselves.
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I made a lot of dumb decisions in college. I mean, let
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me tell you, sign up for a lot of credit cards on the oval
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that I had no business doing. I signed up for a lot of Columbia
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House eight CDs for a penny, only to find out that I had to
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pay the piper at the end. But there's got to be a better system
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in place, and for that I leave it to the real experts and not
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myself. We're gonna shift gears to basketball here quickly as we get ready to
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wrap up. I'm going to be live Thursday, ten am Eastern, ten
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am Eastern, one hour and one hour only. I gotta got some things
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I gotta do later in the day. And that doesn't mean it's going to
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be sixty minutes on the nose. Then I got a bail, but we're
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going about an hour. We're not going to We're not going to ninety minutes.
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We're gonna try and go sixty. So to be sure to hit the
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stuff so you don't miss our show tomorrow ten am on this channel here at
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YouTube dot com. Slash a Buckeye huddle. But we did learn Ohio States
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Conference matchups for men's basketball. That doesn't mean we've learned dates or anything like
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that. This is just the way a modern schedule release goes. You learn
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the opponent, and then later you learn the dates. Ohio State will be
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now part of a eighteen team Big Ten. You still will play twenty league
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games. That means Ohio State will have seven teams that it will play only
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at home, seven teams that it will only play on the road, and
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three what they call two plays seven and seven and three is seventeen. Ohio
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State makes eighteen. And that's where the math is. Your two play teams.
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You will play these teams in Columbus and and their building, Indiana,
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Maryland, and Nebraska. So Ohio State does not really get any breaks there.
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Assembly Hall a difficult place to play, the Pinnacle Bank Arena, and
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Nebraska to difficult place to play. We'll see what this Nebraska team looks like.
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They lose a lot. And then Maryland. I don't remember what the
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name of the arena is. I want to say Capitol one something or other.
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I know that's on the football side. Not of the easiest place to
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play. Teams at Ohio State will play at home Iowa, Michigan, Michigan
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State, Northwestern Oregon, Rutgers, and Washington. So once again, first
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of all, you get the two Michigan schools, so Ohio State is not
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gonna have to go to Breslin. Ohio State is not gonna have to go
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to Chrysler. You get the two Michigan schools there. They're also going to
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get Iowa, no Carver Hawkeye to have to deal with there. Northwestern comes
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to town. So that's fine because Welsh Ryan is becoming a little bit more
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of a difficult place to play for as small and crummy as the facility is
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Rutgers, So you're not gonna have to go out to the Rack. And
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then Oregon and Washington are your two new teams and they come to Columbus,
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Ohio State will not have to go to the Pacific Northwest. On the other
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side, Ohio State has away only games with Illinois, Minnesota, Penn State,
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Purdue, UCLA, USC, and Wisconsin. Illinois at Assembly Hall there
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can be looks like a giant spaceship or clamshell or spaceflam or whatever. Difficult
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place to play. Minnesota can be difficult at the barn. Penn State has
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given Ohio State some problems through the years in their building. Purdue zach Eat,
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he's gone, but they have two more seven footers. So you get
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that. You get the two Soakow schools, UCLA and USC got to figure
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that they're going to do that in a week. You do that like Tuesday,
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Friday or however, I mean, however you want to do that and
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you just stay out there so you're not making those constant trips and probably be
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like Oregon and Washington would figure out a way to do that backed up against
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another trip out east, and then you got Wisconsin over at Coal Center.
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So the biggest takeaway I have here is, damn, the Big Ten is
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just a really difficult league. Now that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm saying that
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the Big Ten is a really good league. I think last year approved it
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probably was not a great league. There are not a lot of games on
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that list. I'm like, ooh, that's a gimme. That's a gimme.
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That's a gimme. There was a point last year where opponents may I
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felt that Ohio State was a gimme, and that's not even fair because Ohio
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State did play well in a lot of games and just couldn't finish or whatever.
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But that's what you got there. Ohio State men's basketball still trying to
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fill out its roster eleven of thirteen scholarship position our players are known still need
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to at least a wing, if not two wings. Will keep you up
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to date on all of that, as well as everything on the football side,
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but once again, be sure to join us Thursday ten a m.
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That is not a time that I normally do a show. I'm expecting to
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get a lot of people who get in late, and it's like, why
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didn't you tell me. I need to come up with a better system to
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let people know when I'm gonna do these shows, or just bear down and
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get a schedule that I like and that I can live up to. But
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until then, have a great day, be safe, and I'll talk to
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you all very soon.