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The Last of Us Part 2 Special: Episode 1 · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha for Stuff I've Never
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  Speaker 1: told you production of My Heart Radio, and welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to the return of our Last of Us special. This
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  Speaker 1: is a thing we do where we react to the
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  Speaker 1: Last of Us TV show, currently in season two. It's
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  Speaker 1: two years later. Here we are again not a sponsor,
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  Speaker 1: but they should really get on it. It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: You know they have their own podcast, right, I know they.
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  Speaker 1: Have their own podcast, but this is still good.
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  Speaker 2: We're doing it too, I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: But also, so these are coming out on Saturdays the
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  Speaker 1: week about a week after the original episode that we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about airs. There will be spoilers, but only for
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  Speaker 1: that episode and the previous season and also the video game,
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  Speaker 1: but not plot specific spoilers from the video game. We
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of We're trying to protect a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people from being spoiled, which just a quick warning
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  Speaker 1: from me, if you don't want to be spoiled, do
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  Speaker 1: not go well, actually, I don't even care. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to be spoiled, don't go anywhere near the Last
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  Speaker 1: of Us to read it. It's a very toxic place.
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  Speaker 2: Oh really, just from the old stuff or yeah, two, okay, okay, well,
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  Speaker 2: so we talked about the old stuff before the game stuff, and.
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  Speaker 1: We will talk about that. We will talk about that
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  Speaker 1: as we get to the where that is really relevant.
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  Speaker 1: But I just know I have a friend who after
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  Speaker 1: who'd never played the game, and he would after the
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  Speaker 1: episode had aired, he'd go and Reddit, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: don't do not do that for the second season. Just
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  Speaker 1: don't do it. You're gonna be disappointed. It's not good. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but we've been talking about it. I've been so excited.
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  Speaker 1: A Samantha and I are getting to hang out while
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  Speaker 1: we're doing it and having food and drinks and it's
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  Speaker 1: so fun. So thank you as always Samantha for letting
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  Speaker 1: me do that and letting me geek out about all
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  Speaker 1: of this.
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  Speaker 2: Next time, I'm going to keep account of how many
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  Speaker 2: times you say oh no, because I'm pretty sure we
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  Speaker 2: had least like double digits on this first round.
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  Speaker 1: It's yeah, because there's a lot there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: moving pieces in this. If you don't know, this is
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  Speaker 1: based on the twenty twenty game. The last of most
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  Speaker 1: part two. This is half of a season, is what
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  Speaker 1: I'll say, and it actually might be one third of
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  Speaker 1: a season of that. It is much The game is
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  Speaker 1: much longer. It's double the length of the first game.
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  Speaker 1: It is much more complicated. They've already been greenlit for
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  Speaker 1: season three. I think they're going to do a season four.
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  Speaker 1: Personally it's going to be much shorter, but I think
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  Speaker 1: they're going to do a season for but just to
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  Speaker 1: say it is much longer, and it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: half season. Also, you know, I was doing my rewatches
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  Speaker 1: to prepare for this, and I accidentally watched one of
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  Speaker 1: the ones that feature ASL, which.
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  Speaker 2: I need to watch that version, okay, yes.
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  Speaker 1: And it was you know, I unfortunately don't under UNDERSTANDSL
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  Speaker 1: but it looked really cool. So listeners, if anyone was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh this was a good, good or bad, let us know.
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  Speaker 1: But that was neat all. Right, So, the way these
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  Speaker 1: usually work is Samantha gives a recap of the episode
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  Speaker 1: and then I just talk about all of these things
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  Speaker 1: that I have have to talk about. But since that
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the first episode of the season,
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  Speaker 1: I was going to give a really brief recap of
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  Speaker 1: last season wherein we meet Joel and his daughter Sarah.
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  Speaker 1: There is an outbreak, a fungus outbreak of corgeous steps
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  Speaker 1: that turns people into effected. It spreads really quickly. The
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  Speaker 1: army steps in, there's bombings, and Sarah is killed, and
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  Speaker 1: Joel becomes very angry and shut off. We jump ahead
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  Speaker 1: several years and he's a smuggler and he's tasked with
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  Speaker 1: smuggling this young girl, Ellie, who it turns out she
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  Speaker 1: is immune to the infection, and they travel across the
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  Speaker 1: United States to find the Fireflies who are working on
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  Speaker 1: a cure, and she is the key to that cure
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  Speaker 1: because she's immune. They lose a lot of people along
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  Speaker 1: the way, and eventually Joel warms up to Ellie and
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  Speaker 1: sees her as a daughter like figure in his life.
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  Speaker 1: But then it turns out an order to make a vaccine,
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  Speaker 1: the Fireflies are going to have to Ellie will die
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  Speaker 1: in the surgery, and so Joel kills a lot of people,
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  Speaker 1: murders a lot of people, and takes Ellie, who is
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  Speaker 1: sedated and unconscious, and when she wakes up, tells her
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  Speaker 1: there is no cure they've been trying. There's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of other immune people can't do it. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: go back to Jackson, Wyoming, which is where his brother lives.
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  Speaker 1: His brother used to be a firefly, and she asks him, like,
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  Speaker 1: I need you to swear to me. Is this true?
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  Speaker 1: Is everything you said about the Fireflies show? And he said,
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  Speaker 1: I swear, And that's where it ended. And that's right
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  Speaker 1: where it picks back up.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, as an FYI, again, the show's different from the games,
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of variation, and we love that. Any
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  Speaker 2: christ a lot and screams a lot, I do not.
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  Speaker 2: And therefore, because I have not played the game as
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  Speaker 2: much as Annie, I give the recaps so I can
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  Speaker 2: stick with the show and hopefully not just spoilers. Annie
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  Speaker 2: would be good about this, but we don't know. She
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  Speaker 2: gets too excited about future thoughts. Yes, so we are
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  Speaker 2: back with season one, and we start with an opening
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  Speaker 2: scene of gravesite or in a group of people sitting
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  Speaker 2: there at this grave site, and we discover and meet
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  Speaker 2: Abby and her crew. Abby is a very important character.
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  Speaker 2: She's very upset, she's very mad. She wants revenge. She
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  Speaker 2: wants them to help her with their revenge, her being
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  Speaker 2: her crew they're fireflies, and they all say, yes, we will,
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  Speaker 2: but we first we have to find another crew of
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  Speaker 2: fireflies or something or anyone mention enough Isaac at this point, okay,
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  Speaker 2: where I go? And then after that, yes, they were
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  Speaker 2: bound together to make sure that they find Joel or Joe.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know with a girl that may or may
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  Speaker 2: not be immune. That's a rumor, they say, and they
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  Speaker 2: agree that thees first are going to go do this thing,
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  Speaker 2: and then they're going to go find Joel or Joe.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, in that moment, she says slowly and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, what he's like, he has to die slowly,
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  Speaker 2: So anger pulsating anger, we are introduced to Abby. Moving along,
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  Speaker 2: we come back to five years later. We are now
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  Speaker 2: in Jacksonville and we see people trying to work on
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  Speaker 2: things on pipes because you know, things are happening. They
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  Speaker 2: need to fix things. New people are trying to come
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of conversation and we find out yes
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  Speaker 2: they are taking a lot of refugees, but they don't
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of space. We have the pragmatists, Joel
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  Speaker 2: being like, you need to stop letting everybody come in.
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  Speaker 2: We can't provide for everyone. He's also working with a
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  Speaker 2: transmitter at the same time that he's supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: the foreman. Then we are soon introduced to a new
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  Speaker 2: Kido Dina Dina walks in and obviously they have good rapport,
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  Speaker 2: and Dina asks, what did you do? Why are you saying?
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  Speaker 2: Why Ellie so bad? Essentially and what did you do?
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  Speaker 2: And they kind of have a small conversation about like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, she's a teenager or whatever, whatnot.
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  Speaker 3: And then here he.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of lets his slip that he's working on his
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  Speaker 2: life with a therapist. Hello, a therapist. We move on
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  Speaker 2: and we see Ellie. Oh, she has grown up. She
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  Speaker 2: is now nineteen and she is sparring with a very
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  Speaker 2: big boy, big boy. At this point, we also meet Jesse,
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  Speaker 2: very excited played by young Mazino. If you don't know,
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  Speaker 2: he's a cool actor coming in as well, and we
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  Speaker 2: had this exchange. Obviously there's some hostilities still because Ellie
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  Speaker 2: does not like being checked by Joel, being protected by Joel.
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  Speaker 2: Things are being said, all those things. We move on
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  Speaker 2: to finding Joel having a conversation with Maria, who is
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  Speaker 2: again talking about the issue about too many people coming in,
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  Speaker 2: trying to work on everything. She needs him to get
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  Speaker 2: things done faster, all of these things, so back and forth,
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  Speaker 2: and then reminding him he was a refugee one time.
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  Speaker 2: Do we also didn't get to meet his nephew, who
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  Speaker 2: comes in all excited talking about shooting zombies. Wonderful, wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: and then but we also figured out that Ellie and
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  Speaker 2: Tommy have been hanging and he's been shot, helping her
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  Speaker 2: to learn to shoot, and they've been sniping some zombies
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  Speaker 2: out there. A little bit of conversation again, we find
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  Speaker 2: out that Joel is overstepping trying to protect her, telling
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  Speaker 2: her him to keep her at gay duty, but she's
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  Speaker 2: not having that. She wants to go on patrol. And
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  Speaker 2: so of course, after being very obnoxious and spoiled and stubborn,
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  Speaker 2: she's screaming I'm immune, trying to get her way, and
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  Speaker 2: she does. She gets to go patrol. Moving on, we
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  Speaker 2: see Joel going into a therapy session and we meet
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  Speaker 2: a new character, Gil. She is the town therapist and
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  Speaker 2: he brings in bad weed as payment, and she's like,
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  Speaker 2: my husband was better at this, he grew it, he
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  Speaker 2: knew how to cultivate it, he was good at it.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever went on. So we know that she was married
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  Speaker 2: to a man named Jean who is significant to the game,
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  Speaker 2: but we don't know much about him. And now we're
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  Speaker 2: going to Dot dot Dot In this therapy section, we
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  Speaker 2: find out that he is trying to fix his problems
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  Speaker 2: with Ellie, but he's not being honest about what's going down,
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  Speaker 2: and Gil being a good therapist, she's not. She's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're bullsh me. And she reveals that Joel had killed
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  Speaker 2: her husband. He shot and killed him, and then we
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  Speaker 2: don't exactly know why. There's a lot of assumptions that happening,
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  Speaker 2: and she says, I do resent you, I do hate you,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm working on that and I know you had
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  Speaker 2: to do what you had to do, but I have
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  Speaker 2: to be honest all the while. We find out he's
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  Speaker 2: pretty drunk. Who isn't at this point, and so a
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  Speaker 2: lot of truth come out. She's like, now you're turn
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  Speaker 2: tell your truth and he never says anything except for
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  Speaker 2: I saved her, so that's what we know. Moving on,
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  Speaker 2: we have Ellie and Dina having these flirty chats talking
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  Speaker 2: teasing each other about their exes. Essentially, so Dina used
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  Speaker 2: to state Jesse, Ellie used to date Cat. They're going
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  Speaker 2: on patrol. Cat is the leader at this point, and
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  Speaker 2: of course they Ellie and Diana are a little rebellious
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  Speaker 2: and have to do their own thing, go on their
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  Speaker 2: own thing to find the zombies or the clickers and
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  Speaker 2: all the infected, and then they go kind of get
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  Speaker 2: into trouble after having an exciting scene of watching Ellie
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  Speaker 2: hack away at a clicker. At another point she falls
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  Speaker 2: through the floor ends up in the other room. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't the basement. It looked like a store, like the
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  Speaker 2: downstairs are part of a store. And we find these
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  Speaker 2: new types of zombies are silent and very smart. I
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  Speaker 2: think one of us said it was a cat. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't on the shoot, but one of us like, we're like,
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  Speaker 2: is that a cat? Having But they were smart and
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  Speaker 2: Ellie got bit again. But that's okay because Elli ended
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  Speaker 2: up shooting it and now has to hide this new
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  Speaker 2: scar because no one knows she is immune, slash, infected,
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  Speaker 2: slash all the things. So all that has happens and
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  Speaker 2: they get back. Of course they had to sit. They're
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  Speaker 2: sitting in front of a council. So it was an
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  Speaker 2: interesting scene and talking about this new discovery of this
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  Speaker 2: new type of infected moving on. All this time, we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about a dance that's happening. There's something happening, coming together,
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  Speaker 2: having a good old time and celebrating everybody's telling her
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  Speaker 2: to come, but we also see her in her garage.
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  Speaker 2: She now lives in the garage behind Joel's house because
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't want to live with Joel. Interaction between them
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  Speaker 2: not so great. The writing that she has in her
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  Speaker 2: general inclues, don't this up. I'm a sitting about Dina,
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  Speaker 2: because Dina makes a really bad pun yeah baar bacue,
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  Speaker 2: and she writes that down. You know, we have that
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  Speaker 2: memory in the notebook and all the good stuff, so
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  Speaker 2: obviously they're made for each other. Here we go on
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  Speaker 2: to the dance scene, and in this dance scene, we
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  Speaker 2: see Ellie and Jesse just chilling the back watching people,
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  Speaker 2: and at this point Dina, pulled to the dance floor,
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  Speaker 2: tells her to come to dance with her. They have
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  Speaker 2: this intimate moment about how everybody's looking at them, and
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  Speaker 2: then they're being jealous of Ellie, and then Dina, who's
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  Speaker 2: kind of drunk, ends up kissing and they end up
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  Speaker 2: making out in the middle of the floor. Then enters Seth,
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  Speaker 2: the bigot, who comes in says some inappropriate things and
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  Speaker 2: then gets tackled by Joel, which Ellie does not appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: Putt puts a downer on the whole event. Don't on
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  Speaker 2: the whole event, and that's kind of how it goes
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  Speaker 2: into that. And then we look away. We see some
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  Speaker 2: people come in through and uh oh, it's Abby and
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  Speaker 2: crew en scene.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, they are approaching. We also see that there's fungus, yes,
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  Speaker 1: in the pipes.
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  Speaker 2: There's an implication that the fungus has made it into
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  Speaker 2: this this protected village.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because the sparkler somebody drops a sparkler in front
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  Speaker 1: of it, then of the broken pipe, and they're like, wooo.
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  Speaker 3: I do need to read this.
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  Speaker 2: So I was kind of doing a little bit readthrough
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  Speaker 2: about like recaps and such, and then you know, it
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  Speaker 2: talks about who Gail is. And this comment says from
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  Speaker 2: entertainmentw dot com. I enjoyed season one and was looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to season two. So far, I am disappointed. I
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  Speaker 2: can see why they jumped ahead five years, but Ellie
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  Speaker 2: and Joel are at odds and so far it's not explained.
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  Speaker 2: Joel's therapist said it's normal for this to happened. This
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  Speaker 2: to happen due to Ellie being nineteen and trying to
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  Speaker 2: discover her which seems she's getting a bit of a
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  Speaker 2: late start. I do hope Episode two has Joel and
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  Speaker 2: Ellie ironing out their problems. I know Ellie doesn't believe
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  Speaker 2: him when he took her away from the hospital, but
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  Speaker 2: he did save her life and she is old enough
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  Speaker 2: to appreciate that. I have my finger scrawled that it
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  Speaker 2: gets better. I really like the actor and actress playing
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  Speaker 2: Joel and Ellie the most innocent of comments. I needed
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  Speaker 2: that to be read.
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  Speaker 1: I did tell Samantha I was getting a little bit
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  Speaker 1: more of that shot in Furrido. When I was reading,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, you don't know what's coming with friends.
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  Speaker 2: I just really love that they're already annoyed, like, why
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  Speaker 2: are they not talking to each other? This seems silly.
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  Speaker 1: It seems silly, to be honest, the first time you
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  Speaker 1: played the game, it's very jarring. You're like, what, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what has happened to you? And it's purposeful. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to make you feel what have I missed over
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  Speaker 1: these five years? And we are going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: that in the context of this episode, because again we
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  Speaker 1: are going to do our damnedest to avoid spoilers. But
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  Speaker 1: that was an excellent recap, Samantha. Thank you. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things I want to talk about in
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  Speaker 1: this since we're in the first episode. I've hinted at
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  Speaker 1: this before. But the way this is going to play
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  Speaker 1: out and the show versus how it plays out and
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  Speaker 1: the game is just going to be very different. And
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  Speaker 1: it's already proven that. So for instance, the scene, the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful scene between Dina and Ellie at the dance is
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  Speaker 1: one of the very last scenes of the game. Because
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  Speaker 1: the game is told through a series of flashbacks that
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  Speaker 1: happen that are hinted at. So the first main playthrough
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  Speaker 1: you start is the day after the party, and everybody's
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  Speaker 1: talking about it. Everybody's like, Ellie, what happened? We heard
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  Speaker 1: you got in a fight with Joel, and so as
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  Speaker 1: the player, you're trying to figure it out. But they
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  Speaker 1: went ahead and put that early. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: people are freaking out because they left out one of
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  Speaker 1: the most key parts of that. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: going to come later. I don't think they would cut
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  Speaker 1: that out, but anyway, But also there's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: shifts of POV. So another thing is the introduction to
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  Speaker 1: Abby happens early in the game, but you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what she's about as early you kind of are like,
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  Speaker 1: who's this? You have your suspicions, but that's a very
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  Speaker 1: early reveal of what of who she is and what
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  Speaker 1: she's about. And that is a big theme in the
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  Speaker 1: game is perspectives. And one thing that stuck out to
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  Speaker 1: me and I was rewatching it is Joel how he
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  Speaker 1: reframes a lot of things when people say things to her,
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  Speaker 1: so like with the therapist, is like, say the thing
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  Speaker 1: out loud, you know, say it, and he's like, ah,
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  Speaker 1: I saved her. But then he also said that he
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  Speaker 1: has this line where Dina ask him why is she
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  Speaker 1: angry at you? Why is Ellie angry at you? But
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  Speaker 1: he rephrases that what's wrong with her? Like, so he's
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  Speaker 1: already he's constantly restructuring this. And then I did like
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  Speaker 1: this line. It's very funny. But he says because I'm
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  Speaker 1: a good guy, which I am to the.
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  Speaker 4: Therapists like you felt my husband. Yeah, she gives him
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  Speaker 4: the most like, but she has. Catherine O'Hara such a
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  Speaker 4: great casting job.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I was reading an interview with her
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  Speaker 1: today about it, because she doesn't normally do such emotional roles,
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  Speaker 1: not that she doesn't have the capacity to. But she said, like,
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  Speaker 1: I just that takes a lot out of me. But
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  Speaker 1: she was convinced to do this one. But she was very,
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  Speaker 1: very very good as Gale of the Therapist, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing more of her. Also, just want
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  Speaker 1: to shout out the set design is really amazing. If
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  Speaker 1: you want to look up side by sides, it's pretty
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: stunning how accurate it is. And also just some of
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the things like the game mechanics, so the whole scene
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: where Ellie is learning how to use the scope for
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: the sniper rifles in the game, and it's even got
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: some of the same dialogue. Ellie's knife that is how
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: she kills clickers, by the way, and she's the only
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: character that can do that, which is really cool. Using
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: the bottle to distract the clickers kind of. The weapons
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: update table is a big feature of the game. Okay,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: but yes, this episode is called Future Days, and that
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: is a reference to a song that may or may
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not be relevant in the show. I think it will be,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but it's a continuity error because technically it didn't exist
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: at the time, but it was a huge thing in
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: the game. It was like the song that plays the game.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: It is a song by Pearl Jam, and Pearl Jam
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: loves it. They've like given their full you can use it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: It's like the perfect song for this. But that's where
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the title comes from. And if you look in the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: background of Ellie's room, you can see Pearl Jam poster. Also,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: if you notice Ellie has a tattoo. Now, she has
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a tattoo that covers what is a chemical burn. She
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: put over the bite on her arm to hide it.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: By the way, Kat her ex designed, didn't design, but
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: put that tattoo on. Yes, Cat is only mentioned in
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: the game, so I was very surprised when Kat showed
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: up pleasantly. I was like, oh God. And there's also
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: the symbolism of the moth. The moth is pretty relevant
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: throughout the series in terms of, you know, the Firefly's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: theme is look for the lights, and the moth does
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: that that the moth can never find the light, and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it's like just always constantly looking for it and never
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: can find it. And once we get further in, I'm
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: sure we'll talk about there are some other theories about
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: why the moth is so important to this, but the
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: moth is part of for tattoo and it's also on
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the guitar.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And also Gail already says the moth is about death.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, man, Gail does not care she drunk.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: She's okay, she either drunk or high.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: He let her be. I read it. I read an
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: article today. It was like, let her have her vices.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I don't get everything is worse. Let her be.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: It's her birthday, her birthday.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: She's doing someone else's therapy, the man who killed her husband.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, in her mind.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It is very funny. How well, this actually is a
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: good segue to the next thing. I want to talk
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: about how Joel is just sort of complaining about Ellie
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: not wanting to talk to him, which is a legitimate complaint,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but she's just listening to him, like.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: She also makes that face when he punches, and she's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: like huh yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well she's in the background, like sipping her drink. Oh
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: my gosh. But this was an interesting this is so
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: you have this five year jump, and it does it's
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: really clear and how we see Ellie and Joel, how
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: different they are now. So we have what I jokingly
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: refer to as old man Joel. I don't feel like
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: he was like this in the game. But in the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: show he had a kind of old He's got his glasses,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he's got he's got his his hair is a bit
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: more gray than it is in the game. He's like
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: working on his he's tinkering, right, He's just he's got
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: kind of a he's complaining about things that feel very
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: kind of old man vibe, which is not present in
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: the game. And we have talked about that, and in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the show they I personally feel they made him a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: much more sympathetic character, at least a bit softer. He's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: not really like that in the game. He would not
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: go to therapy. In the game, I don't have that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for one single second. But they did introduce we talked
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: about this in one of our episodes. They did introduce
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: when they did one of the remasters. You can see
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: that he has medication for anxiety on his table before
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the outbreak happens. So they were looking at that and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: reintroducing that. And in the first season of the show
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you do see him having like panic attacks, but he
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: again that's not in the game. That conversation he has
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's very moving with Tommy in the first season. He
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: did not have that in the game. I appreciate that
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: they're doing this, but it is a very, to me
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: stark difference in this character. You do also kind of
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: get these hints of him that we've already seen, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: when he's kind of leading the construction effort and when
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: all these refugees are coming in and Maria's asking him like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we need to move faster, we don't have places for
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: these people, he's the one that says like, well, we
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: should turn them away because our life vote, we don't
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: have space for them. You should look after your own first,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: which I think is telling based on the decision he made. Also,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be a lot of discussion about fathers
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: in this season, a lot of different types of fathers.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: But it was kind of fun to see him be like, well,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: do you know likes me? She should be mine alder
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she appreciates me, right, which is such a like that's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: just not how it works.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Something hasn't lived with you.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And then we have Ellie, who we are first
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: introduced to in this season, where she's fighting this guy
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: who is much bigger than her and she takes him down.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: But I think there's a couple of points in here
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that are also telling to her character arc that's coming.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: One is she doesn't tap out. The guy taps out
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: twice and Jesse is saying, Okay, that's enough, that's enough,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and she doesn't stop, and she's like, oh, I've just
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: caught up in the moment. I just caught up in
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: the moment. And then she gets really really angry when
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: she finds out that Caleb, the person she was fighting,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: pulled his punches. She does not like that, and that's
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: a part of her really shaving against Joel protecting her
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: because Jesse was like, well, I don't want to deal
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: with Joel if something, if you'd gotten knocked out or whatever,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and she just really did not like that. And I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: think you can see through a couple of scenes the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: toll of growing up in the Apocalypse, because it feels
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: much more And even when you play the game, it
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: does have this vibe it's like, oh, a clicker, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: can I've done it. I know how to do that,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: whereas like the first time, it felt very much like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: oh god, a clicker, I'm dead for sure. So seeing
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: them kind of joke about it, you realize that they've
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: grown up with this stuff, and it's a little sobering,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but you have a couple of quotes around that where
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Jesse asks like, can you take things a little more seriously?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And then when Ellie Dina's like, maybe we should. She's
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: thinking about going back when they hear two clickers, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Ellie's like, if you'd rather let them in handle it.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So there's a there's a little bit of a rebelliousness
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: for sure happening and just I think chafing at the
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: over protectedness. Okay, but this does bring us to we've
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: got a whole cast of new characters, starting with Dina,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: who's played by Isabella Murzad. She is Ellie's best friend
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: as we start out, and then becomes the two of
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: them become romantic with each other. Ellie is very interested
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: in her, doesn't think she can ever get her, thinks
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: that Dina is way too good for her. But then
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you have the dancing scene and it's like really intimate,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: which is unfortunately interrupted by Seth. The bigot which we
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: did talk about is it's very I don't think it's
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: inaccurate at all because this is twenty twenty nine when
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: it's happening, but it's very disheartening that there's still homophobia
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in this world where they are Z obviously right, but
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: there is he's like, we're at a church. They're like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: really okay, But yeah, there are a lot of queer
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: elements in the game, and Dina and Ellie's relationship is
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: one of the big ones. And I also noticed a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: lot of times when Ellie kind of is like, let's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: go scout aricon, Dina will follow her. It's usually Ellie's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: idea and then Dina will be like yes, But I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: think that dynamic will also be important in the future.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: And then there's Jesse, yes, played by young Mazino, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: he's sort of the adult ish leader of their group,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: but they're also friends. They're friends, but they have sort
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of that awkward relationship of he's somebody who has authority
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: over you and you don't like it necessarily. But also again,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Jesse and Dina have an on again, off again relationship,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: which complicates some things. But he's a big he's a
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: big character in this he'll be a big character in
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the season. And then yes, we have Abby, Abby, Abby,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, who's played by Caitlin Deaver, who was
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: a fan cast. By the way, that's not why she
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: got it. She auditioned for Ellie but she was a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: fan cast outside of that, however, and we are going
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: to talk about this more because his character is extremely divisive.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: I'm finding it really interesting some of the comments that
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: are coming out early about her where people are mad
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: about her body type because in the game, Abby was
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: very buff, very very buff, and it was for a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: couple of reasons, gameplay reasons, and one I think was
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: just a necessary plot point. But obviously Caitlin de Ver
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is not that. But that people people were mad at
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: her being buff too, right, They had all these hateful
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: comments about how buff she was.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: I think when you have like for me, they like
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the game was just sexist, like over the top ridiculousness
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: the game for the show, I think it had maybe
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: for those who were fans of the game and like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: it is that's not what you imagined. Like her facial structure, yes,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: for sure, But like I said that too, I was like, oh,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: she's a lot shorter and smaller than I thought she
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: would be. I thought like she would at least look
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: but to me, it's like she was similar to the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: size of Ellie seemingly, which was not what I was
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: expecting because in the gameplay she is almost like five
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: inches taller than her and like a lot more muscular,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: so was not quite especially when she was sitting next
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: to Owen, she looked really short compared to that character.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: So I was like, oh uh oh, that's the thing
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: what shocked me the most, because she does look very,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: very small, so that that threw me off. I didn't
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: say it was a bad thing. I was just like, ah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that's not what I was expecting. So for maybe some
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: of those things, not the jerks who would like just
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: hate women in general, just in like because like we
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: saw the person who played helped make the game for Abby,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Like I've seen the you know, behind the scenes, she's big,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: like she is a muscular woman and she exists.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And I mean we're gonna have to we'll
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: talk about that when we get to whatever episode that
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: will be. But there was a lot of hateful rhetoric
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: around almost like anti trans transphobic, right, rhetoric around her
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: being so big and so now it's hard to tell.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are you the same people who just pissed
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: now or are you whatever it is different people. I don't.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Most of it has just been mostly kind of kind
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: of like what you were talking about, I did read
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: that they purposely cast somebody who looked more like Ellie
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and body type, so I think that will play out
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: more in the future. I can't stress this enough. They
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: did reveal Abby's dad died in that scene where they're
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: going over the graves in the beginning, And you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: the drafts are the same drafts that gift Ellie and
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Joel saw.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: They paid a lot of money for that. Those drafts.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: We need to use them again, at least the same shots.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: We need to use the same shots.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which do not in the game. But that's pretty good.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: But I can't stress enough that you do not know
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that until.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Later, right, we don't know what's why, and everybody immediately
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: hates her.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But I think that's point.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: That's I have expressed my concern about this before because
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: just the way that the game versus the show will
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: play out, because in the game, you can keep playing.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But now we're going to have a wait of who
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: knows how long before the next season comes out, so
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: that weight I think could be pretty bad. Hopefully it
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: won't be that long because they're already in pre production.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: But I wonder if they know that and so they're no,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: like we're gonna have to do it within the same
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: year or within the next year, or we're gonna be
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in trouble and lose all interest.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: They have to know that, but I think that's the
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: reason they switch that around instead of having sort of
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a mid game right reveal. Yeah, you also meet Abby's crew,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: which is Owen, Nora, mel and Manny, and they will
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: all be I don't think they'll have two bigger role
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: in this season, but I could be wrong. I don't
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: know how they're splitting it, but they will have a
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: big role at some point. And then Eugene. Eugene is
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: a band of shocker because Eugene is in He's in Okay,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: but he's a polar ooid picture, like his ghost is everywhere.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: You kind of.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Running memories of him.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but you don't. So there's gonna
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: be a flashback episode with Eugene given to understand. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: this is Gail's husband, and Gail is a completely new character.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: Like I said, she's there's no way you could convince
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: me that Joel video game Joel would get therapy.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: But we also like in the game, I feel like
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Eugene is like just a perverted old man, A little
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: bit proverted old only man.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I didn't really like him. He's a guy
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: who kept to himself.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Right, but like you find all the porn that he said,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: like all these things, like he is definite late.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: He grew a lot of weedy weed. But we'll see
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: how that plays out. Because they're doing that thing they
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: sort of did with Frank and Bill where this was
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: a mention or very brief moment in the game. So
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they've changed his character how it's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: gonna pay it, but they made clear with the weed
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: that that's gonna be true.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, they're going to keep hold of that for sure.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yes. Uh, then we we do have a lot of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: new enemies. One of the biggest complaints the show owners
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: have said that they got from the last season is
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that there wasn't enough infected, So there's gonna be way more.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: We'll see how that works out. But there are new
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: infected you get introduced to in the game. I don't
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: know how many of them they're going to include, but
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they've already introduced stalkers, which also don't come in until
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: about halfway in the game. So stalkers are this new
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: type of infected that are smart. They can plan, they
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: can hide, they can run away, they can kind of
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: set traps. In the game. There's a function where you
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: can listen and like it's almost like sonar, like bat hearing,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and then you can hear like you can see sounds.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: You know, you can't see stalkers. They're so annoying and
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: they can they come together in groups, so you be
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: fighting one and then want to tax you from behind.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: So I was at least twelve oh no's with that appearance.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, it's very raptor like, oh unmust they figure
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: out open doors? They figured out how to open the doors.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: So frustrating, especially if there are clickers too, because then
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you really have to strategize and runners. Anyway, one thing
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I want to I just want to tease. I'm not
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: going to say anything more about it, but I'm incredibly
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: excited about the rat King, which I think will be
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: next season. But that's gonna be cool. That is like
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the King of Infected. Yes exactly, I'm so excited. There's
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a thing in the game where you can hear the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: rat King, like long before you actually encounter it, and
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping they do that in the show. I think
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: that would be really cool. But all right, this brings
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: us to one of the biggest things, one of the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: most jarring things of this episode and a game when
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: you first start, is the rift between Joel and Ellie.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So when we last saw them, they seem to be
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: in an okay place. They're you know, going back home,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: as Joel called it. They seem to have this father
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: daughter relationship, they've bonded, and now something has gone wrong,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: and it is very clear, it is very awkwardly pigfully clear,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and we don't know quite what it is. We have
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: the suspicions of what it is, but we don't know
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for sure. And this has a lot to do with
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Ellie's lack loss of trust in Joel and questioning what
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: he's telling her and just how he's kind of controlling
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: her narrative. She's he's the one telling her, you cannot
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: tell anybody about this immunity. You cannot do that, and
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: he to the point other people as mentioned, no, if
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: I do something wrong with Ellie, Joel's going to do
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: something possibly violent. So like Tommy lies to Joel about
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: hanging out with Ellie, Jesse says that thing where he's like,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I don't wanna, I don't need Joel bothering me, And
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I really feel like there's this she's annoyed at both
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the overprotectedness. She is convinced he's lying, but she's also
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: like having to deal with his anger violence overprotectedness when
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: it comes to other people. So like when he attacks Seth,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: whether you think that's the right thing he should have
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: done or not, if you're looking at his past record
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: of how he's dealt with these threats, like she I
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: feel like she might think she has to stop him
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: from being violent. And also she definitely is annoyed at,
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  Speaker 1: and I think rightfully so, at her agency being kind
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  Speaker 1: of taken away. And there is a lot of like
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  Speaker 1: questioning about the impacts and consequences of violence, which will
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: be confronted with his decision. But we also see things
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  Speaker 1: like the guitar because in the first season he said
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: he would teach her to play the guitar. He did
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: clearly he did, and she has a guitar, but she's
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: not keeping up with it. It's kind of discarded and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: she hasn't like the strings are bad, and he takes
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: it to fix it. So that's a clear sign something's wrong. Also,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: she did move into the garage, and then you sort
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  Speaker 1: of have this the therapist saying, it's such a normal problem,
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  Speaker 1: like a nineteen year old. It's every daughter ever has
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  Speaker 1: this problem. But you know, we as the viewers know, no,
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  Speaker 1: it's not just that. I mean, so does Gail, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why she as her like, no, I know you're
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: lying and you're hiding something. Yes, But one thing I
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: thought was interesting in sort of the when the show
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: owners were talking about it and the clip after was
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: they were talking about that scene in the party after
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Joel attacks Seth, I just pushes him down, and they said, like,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: she inadvertently embarrasses Joel Ellie and inadvertedly embarrasses Joel, which
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: is interesting because I played this game with my brothers
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like he invertedly embarrassed her,
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  Speaker 1: And so that's kind of going back to that perspectives
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  Speaker 1: of who you think they I mean, honestly, it's probably
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: both both are true. But it was just so funny
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  Speaker 1: because I remember look at my brothers to be like,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: are you seriously look at this? Yeah? But then also
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: there are a lot of similarities that are going to
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: be explored. Tommy said, you know, you and my brother
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the same person to Ellie. But also you can start
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: to see some similarities between Abby and Joel, and they
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: talk about that in the after show too, about you know,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: if this kind of remind if Abby's lost kind of
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: reminds you of Joel's loss of Sarah, then that's not unintentional.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You see Abby houses watch. So there are these things
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: that are gonna come come out and be more obvious
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: as we go forward, which I'm very excited about. Very excited. Okay,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And this brings us to just some random shout outs
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  Speaker 1: that I have. So one is the knife, Ellie's knife,
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: which her mom gave her. She still has, and that's
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: how you kill the clickers. Shimmer her horse, if you remember,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: she meets Shimmer when she's much younger. The horse is
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: much younger. And the first season Cat, I just cat
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Ellie's X did the tattoo. I was not expecting Kat
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  Speaker 1: to show up.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: That was.
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  Speaker 1: A real shock. She did not want to be there.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I wouldn't want to either. If you
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: look around Ellie's room, there are a ton of them.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Like the comic book posters. There's Also she has a
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: poster of space. She said she want to go to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the moon to be like Sally Ride. That's what she wanted.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Her journal is a game mechanic that you don't have
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to actually engage with if you don't want to in
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: the game, but they like if you read it. A
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: lot of what she had written is what's from the game.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: If you remember, after they kill the clickers, Den and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Ellie kill the clickers, there's a dog employee of the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: month that is a clue to how to open a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: safe in the game. Multiple Curtis and Viper mentions, we
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: must shout that out. This is also something you can
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: miss in the game. It's kind of a conversation you
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: can have if you choose to with Dina or she's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: talking about how Joel loves Curtis and Viper and she
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: mentions like, hell, yeah, we should watch them with Joel
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and I might watch them. And then just the line
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: because I love it, Oh, Ellie, I think they should
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: be terrified of you, because oh my, it's so good.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: It's so good. That whole scene was beautiful. It's like
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: shot for shot, it's amazing. And that was the trailer
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: for the game was pretty much that scene Crooked Stills music,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: same music them. Yeah, oh my gosh. Anyway, thank you
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: so much listeners and Samantha for coming along this journey.
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  Speaker 1: Hopefully they're fun. Even if you don't watch the show
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: and you're not really interested, sort of like our Sex
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  Speaker 1: and the City things are.
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, please enjoy this with us. And yeah, just watching Annie,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep a count. I'm like, keep a tally
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: of the oh.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Nos, some good some tallies the tears and yeah, we'll see. Yeah,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: there are seven episodes in this season, so hopefully you
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: don't absolutely hate this, but if you do, there's always
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: said calm down before we start, before we start season three,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: whenever that will be. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm very
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: very excited. I'm looking forward to it and there's so
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: many things I cannot wait to talk about. It's gonna
• 44:20
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