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I Am All In Again…Something people think is nerdy that Rory made cool! (Season 4 E1 “Ballrooms and Biscotti”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again. Oh, let's just do I
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  Speaker 1: Am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all in Podcast, one
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  Speaker 1: of our productions iHeart Radio Media. iHeart Podcast Recapping episode
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  Speaker 1: The Ballrooms, en Biscotti Episode one, Season four, Very Special
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  Speaker 1: guests with us Carly, Take and Die and If you
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  Speaker 1: Don't Know Carly. She joined People Magazine as a writer
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  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three and is the book's editorial assistant.
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  Speaker 1: She's had over four years experience as journalists. Before joining People,
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  Speaker 1: she was a writer and became the editor and chief
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  Speaker 1: at her college, Pratt Institute student newspaper, The Prattler. She
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  Speaker 1: wrote an article four people called Gilmore Girls showed me
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  Speaker 1: that I was always it was always cool to be
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  Speaker 1: a bookworm, and let me read for you a little
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  Speaker 1: excerpt from that article. It was always Rory's love of reading. However,
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  Speaker 1: that kept drawing me back to the show, and it
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  Speaker 1: still does when it's time for My yearly rewatch. No
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  Speaker 1: matter how much Rory's character fall for better or worse
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  Speaker 1: throughout the series, of passion for reading always remained. From
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  Speaker 1: chiltd'ale to her aimless adult years. In the Year in
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  Speaker 1: the Life, it goes to show that once that love
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  Speaker 1: is fostered, it never truly goes away. Carly, welcome. I
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  Speaker 1: understand this is your first podcast appearance anywhere, and we're
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  Speaker 1: thrilled to have you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for happing me.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're going to get into ballrooms and biscotti.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody returns home from Europe. Rory, Laurele I prepare for
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  Speaker 1: Rory to go to Yale. Luke comes home with unexpected
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  Speaker 1: news about Nicole. Meanwhile, Suki is prepping to have her
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  Speaker 1: baby and reveals the gender to only laurel I. But
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  Speaker 1: Jackson is not interested in knowing. He wants to go
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  Speaker 1: old school. Directed by Amy Sherman Paladino, Written by Amy
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  Speaker 1: Sherman Palladino.
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  Speaker 3: How can you go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: There? The majority of this episode, by the way, everybody
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  Speaker 1: takes place in stars Hollow, Carly, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: of this episode?
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was very fitting to watch this for me, actually,
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  Speaker 4: because I just got back from a mother daughter trip
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  Speaker 4: across Europe a few days ago, so it can really
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  Speaker 4: relate to the jet lag and the stress of trying
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  Speaker 4: to find gifts for everybody. But yeah, I think it
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  Speaker 4: was insulted for me also because I'm a few years
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  Speaker 4: out of college now, but really remember the excitement of
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  Speaker 4: preparing to go and starting a new life, so that
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  Speaker 4: was also attractive to me.
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  Speaker 1: In that episode, Rory Lorelei returned from Europe, but Bet
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  Speaker 1: is thrilled, a worried, anxiety ridden, thinking that she was
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  Speaker 1: coming home sooner, but hadn't heard from laurel Lai, so
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  Speaker 1: she called every consulate in Europe too for them to
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  Speaker 1: leap into action and and and get fined in her.
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  Speaker 1: They have gifts for everybody in town except for a few.
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  Speaker 1: They packed them in their euro backpacks, but they forgot
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  Speaker 1: Luke's and even Kirks, which led to a very funny
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  Speaker 1: scene with Kirk as well. Lorelai and Roy visit Suki
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  Speaker 1: and Jackson. Upon their return, Baby's gender is revealed to
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  Speaker 1: Lorelai only loura I asked about Luke's trip that he
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  Speaker 1: took with Nicole. They went on a seven country cruise. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: that sounds quite extensive. Rory sees her. Rory sees that
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  Speaker 1: she's the ice cream queen on a flyer. She wasn't
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  Speaker 1: asked by Taylor. It's the opening of his sweet shop.
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  Speaker 1: She confronts Taylor about it, and he gets kind of
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  Speaker 1: all passive aggressive with her, doesn't he. Rory opens the
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  Speaker 1: mail to find out her orientation at Yale is in
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  Speaker 1: three days, and so mom and daughter start to freak
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  Speaker 1: out a little bit. While they're Russian to their errands,
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  Speaker 1: Rory has to walk by the celebration of the ice
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  Speaker 1: cream Queen, and it's very awkward because there's just simply
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  Speaker 1: a poster there and a very bitter tailor who spots
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  Speaker 1: her outside the crowd and just starts digging in, and
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  Speaker 1: they need to cancel. Ry and Larela need to cancel
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  Speaker 1: Emily for right at dinner to fit all their errands in,
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  Speaker 1: especially on Rory's last night in town before she goes
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  Speaker 1: to Yale on Saturday. But Rory insists that she she
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  Speaker 1: has to go to dinner and that Laurala can skip it. Carly,
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  Speaker 1: how would you rank this premiere episode among the series
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  Speaker 1: of the seven seasons?
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  Speaker 2: I frea could highly.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's one that I often come back to
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  Speaker 4: my own rewatches again for like the nostalgia of going
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  Speaker 4: off to college. But I think it's a good introduction
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  Speaker 4: to a lot of people in town. Also, if you
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  Speaker 4: haven't Stink and More Girls, you kind of get a
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  Speaker 4: good sense of some of the characters that live in
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  Speaker 4: Stars Hollow too. Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: How did you initially discover the show?
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  Speaker 3: How old were you?
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  Speaker 2: And Yeah, I think I was around fifteen.
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  Speaker 4: A friend had started watching it, and so I started
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  Speaker 4: watching it also. But as I write in the article,
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of the perfect show for an introvert,
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  Speaker 4: for a pop culture fanatic. I think, like a lot
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  Speaker 4: of people, I was really drawn to the fast dialogue,
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  Speaker 4: to how many movies and bands and books are referenced
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  Speaker 4: throughout it, and I don't know, I just really fell
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  Speaker 4: in love with the character dynamic. It's the family dynamics
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  Speaker 4: in it, and of course Rory's character as well.
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  Speaker 1: M Did a lot of your friends feel the same way?
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  Speaker 1: Did they discover the show the way you did?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, a lot of my friends kind of started watching later,
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  Speaker 4: like in college, which I thought was interesting. But I
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  Speaker 4: think everybody I'm good friends with now has seen the
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  Speaker 4: series at least once, so it's definitely really popular among
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  Speaker 4: young people too.
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  Speaker 1: So you gravitated toward Rory Obviously, she was a big
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  Speaker 1: influence on you, who were name your top five favorite
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  Speaker 1: characters in this series.
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  Speaker 2: Dave Rigalski definitely one of them. Him and Lane.
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  Speaker 4: I love their love of music and their dynamics with
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  Speaker 4: each other. Paris really grew on me also throughout watching it.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of the point of her character.
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  Speaker 4: In a lot of ways, you kind of become endeared
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  Speaker 4: to her and kind of see where she's coming.
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  Speaker 2: From a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I'd also say Emily if she's also a character that
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  Speaker 4: you know, I really grew to love through a lot
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  Speaker 4: of free watches and is another character that you really
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  Speaker 4: come to understand where he's coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Two Okay, we find out that Luke is extremely angry
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  Speaker 1: at Taylor for putting a window in the wall so
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  Speaker 1: he can spy on Luke and Luke's customers can't have
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  Speaker 1: any privacy.
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  Speaker 3: But I kind of thought that was a win win
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  Speaker 3: for both of them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they were going to attract business to each
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  Speaker 1: other's businesses, and Luke has one of his more classic rants.
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  Speaker 1: I guess he was really really angry at Taylor. Laura
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  Speaker 1: I gives Luke the fake jam she's claimed to be
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  Speaker 1: from France when she just bought it right down the street,
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  Speaker 1: tries to pass it off, but eventually she tells the
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  Speaker 1: truth she has about the cruise with the coal, but
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  Speaker 1: Luke is avoiding that subject. And now Luke is over
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  Speaker 1: to help Laurel I pack Rory's things into the truck
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  Speaker 1: because he's going to He's gonna haul all that stuff
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  Speaker 1: up to Yale with with those two, including the mattress.
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  Speaker 1: She pushes him to tell him what happened on the cruise,
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  Speaker 1: and he spills the beans. Just another example of great writing.
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  Speaker 1: But there's more, but there's more, but there's more. They
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  Speaker 1: got married, he proposed, he got they got married. They're
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  Speaker 1: getting divorced, all in the space of what what a month,
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  Speaker 1: two weeks something like that. He explains what happened, and
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  Speaker 1: she apologizes, but she kind of jokes about it. You
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  Speaker 1: think Luke Carly was more embarrassed about what happened, or
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  Speaker 1: or was it that he didn't want Laurelie to think
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  Speaker 1: differently about him?
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  Speaker 2: I think I would say embarrassed.
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  Speaker 4: He seems like a pretty proud character, you know, stubborn
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  Speaker 4: also in a lot of ways, which I think meshes
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  Speaker 4: well with Looralized and stubborn is too.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmm mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: Well do you think she was relieved, she was surprised
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  Speaker 1: and relieved.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, yeah. I mean, I think it's essential to
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  Speaker 4: her character to in a lot of ways that you know,
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  Speaker 4: she'd never admit that she liked Luke early on. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: definitely relief there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a big moment in the in the
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  Speaker 1: prior episode where she stops into the diner after hours
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  Speaker 1: and says, don't She said, don't go on the cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Don't do the cruise. She didn't she didn't want him
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  Speaker 3: to go at all.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was kind of a big moment. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he went and he got married. Now we have
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  Speaker 1: Rory at Friday night dinner. She arrives and she gives
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  Speaker 1: the presents to both Richard and Emily. They're both very pleased.
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  Speaker 1: Emily gets a trinket of the Eiffel Tower, Richard gets
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  Speaker 1: a pipe from Copenhagen, and then Emily and Richard at
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  Speaker 1: dinner find out that Rory and Lorelai or Laurelai did
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  Speaker 1: not contact any of the fifteen people that Richard and
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  Speaker 1: Emily had given them phone numbers to friends of theirs
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  Speaker 1: to check in and go stay with them and go
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  Speaker 1: get you know, fed by them, and Rory says, we're
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  Speaker 1: just too busy to We were doing our own thing
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  Speaker 1: and we didn't call anybody. And Emily decides to have
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  Speaker 1: European Night and really drag out their dinner, which was
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  Speaker 1: very funny because if the look on the look on
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  Speaker 1: Rory's face was priceless, and you know the Europeans, they'll
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  Speaker 1: leap for three or four hours.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do that. And they So Rory ends up calling
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  Speaker 3: Laurla and says Emily's.
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  Speaker 1: Taken her hostage, and she thinks this is about laurel
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  Speaker 1: I not showing up, so laurel I offers to rescue
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  Speaker 1: her and pick her up. And once once LOURAI shows up,
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  Speaker 1: Emily gets angry at her for missing dinner. You know,
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  Speaker 1: guilt trips are on, deciding to not come to the dinner,
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  Speaker 1: and so they are arguing once again as these two do,
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  Speaker 1: and Laura I just starts breaking down and laughter about
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  Speaker 1: over the whole situation. Probably my favorite scene in the
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  Speaker 1: hole in the whole show this episode. And then you know,
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  Speaker 1: Rory and Laurel I are watching the videos and hope
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  Speaker 1: tomorrow is everything they imagined it would be her first
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  Speaker 1: day Yale and Emily is out like a light on
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  Speaker 1: the couch, Carly. Do you think Emily just couldn't admit
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  Speaker 1: she wanted to spend more time with both Lorala and
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  Speaker 1: Rory on their last night before college.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean Laura had to get her stubbornness from
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  Speaker 2: somewhere too, so she got it from Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I would say so, yes, And it was It
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  Speaker 1: was kind of sweet how it ended right with the
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  Speaker 1: episode with Emily asleep on the chair, Rory and Laurelai
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  Speaker 1: watching the ballroom dancing from the seventies and eighties, and
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  Speaker 1: they're they're sort of wondering about the next day, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a big deal. It's a big deal
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  Speaker 1: sending your kid off to college, scary and exciting, and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna miss that person very very much. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about your article. You mentioned in your article
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  Speaker 1: that Rory's character really stuck out to you because she's
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  Speaker 1: an avid read reader, a book worm. What did it
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  Speaker 1: mean to you to have someone like that on TV.
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  Speaker 4: I think it kind of just showed me that it
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  Speaker 4: was okay to kind of be who you were, I
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  Speaker 4: mean a side more being a bookworm. I think I
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  Speaker 4: was really drawn to how open she was about being
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  Speaker 4: quiet and kind of being more of an introvert and
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  Speaker 4: being a shy person, which I could really relate to
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  Speaker 4: when I was rewatching the show recently. I think in
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  Speaker 4: like the first season, there's an episode where she's literally
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  Speaker 4: pull out of lunch at Chilton by looking counselor who
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  Speaker 4: talks to her about like her shyness and being to participate.
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  Speaker 4: And I've definitely had those conversations also being told that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you needed to change that aspect. So I
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  Speaker 4: think seeing a character like that as a main character,
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  Speaker 4: at least for me, that was the first time I
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  Speaker 4: had ever seen that on TV, so kind of showed
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  Speaker 4: me it was okay and that I didn't necessarily have
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  Speaker 4: to change because Rory didn't want to change either.
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  Speaker 3: So you must have.
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  Speaker 1: You must have really cringed when Rory was going through
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  Speaker 1: that episode, those episodes with mitcham Huntsberger, Oh yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: being and being treated that way and that you're you're
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  Speaker 1: not a winner and you don't got a kid and
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 3: How did you react.
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  Speaker 1: To that when you were watching those episodes.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely cringed, because I feel like, you know, nobody
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  Speaker 4: wants to be told that they aren't good at what
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  Speaker 4: they do or they don't have potential. But I talk
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  Speaker 4: about that episode a lot with my friends, and I
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  Speaker 4: think that, you know, if it were me in that position,
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  Speaker 4: I would have taken that as encouragement, or I would
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  Speaker 4: have taken that more so as motivation to try to
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  Speaker 4: do better and to prove somebody wrong. So it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: make the feelings about that I cringe and feel bad
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  Speaker 4: for her, but also, you know, I like to think
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  Speaker 4: maybe I would have reacted differently and not gone and
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  Speaker 4: stolen a yacht.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And are there any particular books that you reread
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  Speaker 1: every year or some of your favorite books that Rory
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  Speaker 1: inspired you to read? You know, people have their favorite
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  Speaker 1: songs and their memories attached to those songs. What are
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  Speaker 1: your favorite books as inspired by Rory's character.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm not a huge rereader, so i'd probably I
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  Speaker 4: haven't read a lot of these, but I definitely if
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  Speaker 4: I did reread, I would go back to them. But
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  Speaker 4: I loved reading A Room of Ones owned by Virginia Wolf.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a great look at being a writer
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  Speaker 4: and a huge inspiration to a lot of writers everywhere.
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  Speaker 4: That's definitely one. I'm trying to think there is a
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  Speaker 4: fan or a group of fans. I don't know exactly who,
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  Speaker 4: but they've created this reading challenge, the Rory Goomore Reading Challenge,
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  Speaker 4: where they've listed like every book that was mentioned on
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  Speaker 4: the show and the revival series, and it's there.
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  Speaker 2: For people to read.
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  Speaker 4: And sometimes people read a certain amount each month, or
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  Speaker 4: there's like themes each month. So it's been a while
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  Speaker 4: since they've done that. I have done it once at
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  Speaker 4: the Friends. I'm trying to recall like what we read.
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  Speaker 4: There's some athor that I haven't read yet, Like there's
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  Speaker 4: one book that Jess mentions it's called Please Kill Me.
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  Speaker 4: It's like an oral history of the punk scene in
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  Speaker 4: New York, which is where I live. So definitely that's
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  Speaker 4: what I want to get to and would love to
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  Speaker 4: return back to that challenge and maybe read it through
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  Speaker 4: there too.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Rory persuaded you to become an editor
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  Speaker 1: in chief at PRATT.
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  Speaker 2: I think she definitely had some influence.
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  Speaker 4: I kind of joke with people in my life that
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  Speaker 4: there has been like a Go More World episode for
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  Speaker 4: like important moments in my life to kind of relate
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  Speaker 4: to it, and I don't know if she necessarily inspired
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  Speaker 4: that path, but when rewatching a show after getting that
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  Speaker 4: job and seeing that she had done that too, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, wait, so maybe there was some subconscious
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  Speaker 4: influence there. But I think she definitely pushed me to
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  Speaker 4: put myself out there more and to kind of follow
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  Speaker 4: it what I wanted to do, just to be a
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  Speaker 4: writer and.
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  Speaker 2: To be a journalist.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, since you were born when the show came out,
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  Speaker 1: how'd you start watching it?
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  Speaker 3: Was it? Did you discovered it on Netflix?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: It was on Netflix and readily available to watch. Do
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  Speaker 4: not have to wait for any episodes to draw weekly?
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  Speaker 3: Right? And what drew you to the series? Was it
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  Speaker 3: that you had.
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  Speaker 1: Heard that Rory was a bookworm and you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's interest stinger. What what what made you watch that
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  Speaker 1: first episode?
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  Speaker 4: I do think because a front had watched it and
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  Speaker 4: really liked it. I don't think I knew it much
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  Speaker 4: about it going into it. I definitely heard of it,
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  Speaker 4: but I think it was like through watching that all
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  Speaker 4: of those connections and books and music kind of came
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  Speaker 4: through for me.
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  Speaker 1: Right, And you started you started with the pilot episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we watched all the way.
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  Speaker 1: Through and and how long did.
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  Speaker 3: It take for you to get hooked?
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  Speaker 1: Were you hooked pretty much right away?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think the second the Laws started playing, like in
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  Speaker 4: the first like two seconds. So the first eupisode was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: there's a good soundtrack here.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh, John.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great beginning opening shot, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: That song? That song is just wow.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a hilarious scene in there with with those
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  Speaker 1: those boys trying to pick up Rory. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: just just to it and then hit on.
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  Speaker 3: Hurt and roll or like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So you knew right away, within the first couple
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  Speaker 1: of seconds, even a couple of minutes, that you were
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  Speaker 1: in very very good hands and that you were you
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  Speaker 1: were gonna like this because you could tell that the
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  Speaker 1: writing was different, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely a good word for it. Different.
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  Speaker 4: Like I think up until that, I had not seen
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  Speaker 4: dialogue written like that where it was like so fast
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  Speaker 4: paced and you know, there was so much jammed into
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  Speaker 4: like each line. I feel like, you know, I feel
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  Speaker 4: like someone's have like three references to a book or
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  Speaker 4: a movie or something where it's like you kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: have to keep up. But yeah, I really liked that
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: and hadn't seen it before.
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  Speaker 1: Right, that's great, that's a great story. It's great to
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: hear that. Who do you think is the most misunderstood
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: character in this series?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I think probably Emily.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I think when I first started watching, she was probably
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: somebody that I didn't understand necessarily well. But through where
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: rewatches and through learning more about her and the dynamics
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: between her and Richard and LAURAAI, I could definitely see
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: where she was coming from. I can kind of see where,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: you know, her snappiness or certain actions that she did
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: came from. And I think ultimately you know, they did
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: come from a place of love and of loving LAURAAI
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  Speaker 4: and wanting the best for her, even if it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: always expressed the best ways sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an understate, Carly. This is an often ask question.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But why do you think the show brings so much
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: comfort to so many people?
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I personally think because there's kind of something in there
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: for everybody, you know, the cultural references. I'm sure there
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: is something. Whether you're a reader, a music clever, there's
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: something for you there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I think a lot of people can probably see themselves
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: at least like one of these character dynamics, whether it's
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: the mother daughter aspect of Rory and LAURAAI or Laura Line,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: or the friendships between Marolei, Luke and Suki. You know,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I think that I don't know a lot of people
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: kind of can see themselves in those. I've definitely seen,
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: you know, Rory and Lane's friendship within my own friendships
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: with my friends. But yeah, from what people I've seen,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: the mother daughter aspect is really strong, and I can
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: definitely relate to some of his aspects too, So I
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: don't know. I think it's just so much jampack into
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: every episode, and there are so many varieties of people
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: on that show that again, there's something there for everybody.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Who are you rooting for in terms of, you know
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: this Rory's boyfriends, who are your favorites and who did
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: you just like?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it definitely has never been Deen.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: I can probably say that, but it kind of switched
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: in high school between Jess and Logan. But I think
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: now team Logan. He charmed me and I do think
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: he had her best interests at heart.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's the most capable and I think he
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: matches her, Yeah, implements her better than anybody, definitely.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: And in terms of Laurelized relationship with Luke, who did you?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Did you root for any other suitors or were you
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: always did you get caught up in the in the
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Luke Laureli narrative.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry to say, but that was never like the main
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: relationship for me when watching. But yeah, I think I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: always was kind of reading for them. I did kind
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: of get annoyed sometimes and like the Christopher Returns episodes came.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: On, because you know, there's there's issues there too.
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: But yeah, ultimately I'm glad that they ended up together,
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: and it was nice to watch the revival once it
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: came out and to see, you know, where this story ended,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: or I guess began in some senses.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Too, I'm sensing something here. Would I be wildly off
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the mark that you are putting Luke in this same
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: category as Dean.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You might have he might have caught
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: me there.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Do you think that Luke was really not the best
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: match for her?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily think so.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: I do think that, you know, it took some it
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: took some years to get to where they got, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I think there were definitely aspects of his character that
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: you know, I can relate to and find in hearing,
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: So he was never in the same category fully for
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: me as Dean Dean is his own category, I guess
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So maybe Luke for you was more of a Jess.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's more maybe invested at the time
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the teenage relationships, because that was kind of where I
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: was at in my life. But I definitely should watch
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: the revival again and maybe things will feel differently.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: What did you think of the revival overall? Overall?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, I think it might have I think,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: at least with where Rory's character went, that that might
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: have been a bit realistic. You know, I'm not in
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: my thirties yet. I think she's in her thirties in
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: their revival, so cannot say for sure you know what
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: it's like to be in your thirties, but you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: I have had some flailing moments myself, so I could definitely,
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: you know, see where she was at in some senses there.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I think the last scene upset me just as much
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: as it upset a lot of different people too.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, were you surprised and dismayed that she hadn't
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: become successful?
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: That she had become successful, had not become successful.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Like the flailing did it bother you?
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I think it was a pretty realistic portrait of kind
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: of what that period may look like for some people. Again,
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: like thinking back on the conversations you had with Mitchell
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: when she was an in turn at his publication, you know,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: maybe that there was some truth in there, and I
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: think maybe that was a consistency in the writing. You know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: some people kind of say that like they destroyed her character.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: She totally flew off the rails, but you know that
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: is the experience of some people, and maybe it just
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: was her experience.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Also interesting choice though, right, I mean to build up
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a character like that for seven years?
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So special about Victorian top of her class at children,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: off to Yale, more academic achievements, and a lot of.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: People say that Paris was the real successor in the
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: end that you know, she got what she wanted and
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: turned out to be very successful too.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can certainly see why the fans were upset. Okay, overall,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: how do you think your life would be? And this
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is a very difficult question to ask, but I'm just
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm just gonna ask it anyway. Do you think
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: your life would have been any different had Gilmour Girls
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: not been made, and that you did not have the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: experience of watching these episodes and absorbing these characters.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: I think so in a lot of ways.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: You know, I've talked a bit before about how, you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: Rory was a big influence in just showing me that
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: it was okay to be myself. There's that aspect, But
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I think also just like the joy it's brought me
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: to watch, you know, that's kind of the show I
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: turn on when, you know, I want something familiar or comforting,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: or a song or a show I have in the
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: background I'm making dinner. You know, It's kind of just
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: always been a constant, and I think like the familiarity
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: of it, but.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Also you know, the nostalgia of it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: You know, again, I was born when, like the show
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: first aired, but like the nostalgia for me of thinking
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: of watching it, you know, with my friends in high
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: school and looking about that through that lens. I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: maybe life would be a little bit emptier without it
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: in it for me personally.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you're a writer. You must have come up with
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: some narratives for the show. Do you have any thoughts
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: about what you'd like to see in a new iteration
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: of the series or new maybe a movie or maybe
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, some more episodes of a new season. Do
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you have any ideas? Did you ever think about it?
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: And could you share it this?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: I haven't really thought about it in depth, but now
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: that you think about it, I'd be curious to see
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: where Rory is now, especially after the bomb that's kind
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: of dropped in the last episode. You know, what ended
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: up for her and what ended up becoming of her
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: and Logan's situationship that they had going on to right, the.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Child would be nine years old, nine ten years old
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: at this point.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: You know, I wonder if maybe you know, she became
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: a good freelance writer and had more creative control over
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: her journalism what she was doing while being a parent.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: You know, you never know, right.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: And do you think the show could exist without all
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the characters in a new iteration?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think everybody needs to be
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: in there.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: That's the charm of it, you know, the charm of
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: having all of these characters to fall back on. You know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine an iteration without Miss Patty or Bad
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Beet or Kirk of all people, you know, they have
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: to be there too.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Have you ever been to a place like Stars Hollow?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I think the close to have come.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: My parents live in a little seaside town in Delaware,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: claud Rehoba Beach, and I've grown up there, growing up,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: going there my entire life, and there are definitely like cute,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: quaint parts of it. And there's a town nearby called Lewis,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: which is I think the first town in the first
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: state ever and I have like the cutest little bookstores,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: cutest little walkways. So that's kind of where I get
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: my fix of Stars Hollow charm whenever I'm back home.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: M hmm.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Well, Carly, it's been a pleasure, and continue to success
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with your career. And thank you everybody for all your downloads,
• 27:40
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• 27:41
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• 27:42
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