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Cameron Mathison, Richard Marx, Daisy Fuentes - The Threesome You Need! · I Choose Me with Jennie Garth

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  Speaker 1: Here we are, back on I Do Part Two. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Richard Marks, here with my beautiful wife, Daisy Fuentes, and
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  Speaker 1: our guest, Cameron Matheson.
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  Speaker 2: We have so much to talk to him about that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to continue the conversation, talk about his new
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  Speaker 2: Christmas movie and where he is in life right now.
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  Speaker 2: It was just too much for one podcast. Well, you
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  Speaker 2: recently went Instagram official with your girlfriend, Taylor. Yes. How
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  Speaker 2: does it feel to be in a relationship after everything
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  Speaker 2: that you went through? Do you feel like this is
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  Speaker 2: a new lease on life? Because I think that that
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  Speaker 2: really helps. Like when you go through a divorce or
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  Speaker 2: a bad breakup and you have to go through all
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  Speaker 2: the things that you go through, there's a sense of.
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  Speaker 3: Jadedness, right?
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  Speaker 2: And especially with all the stuff that you were going through,
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  Speaker 2: but then when you find someone who kind of lights
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  Speaker 2: that spark again, where you feel like, Oh, I'm feeling
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of that, but like love, love is
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  Speaker 2: love is everything. When you're able to feel that again,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of lighting the way it's it's new hope. Right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's, that's absolutely true. I think for me
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  Speaker 4: in particular too. So first of all, Taylor is, um,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just such an incredibly kind and sweet and
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  Speaker 4: smart and fun, adventurous and supportive and encouraging woman. It's
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  Speaker 4: just incredible. Uh, and, and, um, we have tons, tons
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  Speaker 4: in common and I never really thought that I would
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  Speaker 4: have that much in common again with somebody. Um, um, after,
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  Speaker 4: you know, being with Vanessa for 20, 22, 23 years,
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  Speaker 4: but leading into that, this relationship, which I guess officially
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  Speaker 4: kind of started back in, uh, should know this, um, April,
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  Speaker 4: I guess. Um, I had, you know, I'd started dating,
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  Speaker 4: I'd started being out there and, uh, it got, it
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  Speaker 4: got a little busy, you know, like it was more
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  Speaker 4: of a distraction, distraction, distraction. And, and also, but, but
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  Speaker 4: the truth is, is that, you know, I met a
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  Speaker 4: lot of incredible and, uh, amazing women. And, and, but
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  Speaker 4: I did notice that it was like, It's it, that's
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  Speaker 4: not me. Like it's, it's, it's, it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it's just not me. And I, uh, when, when to
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  Speaker 4: your point, I met Taylor and obviously I am way,
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  Speaker 4: way better as a devoted, loyal person. uh, caring, loving partner.
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  Speaker 3: That I am. You're good in relationships.
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  Speaker 4: Out there in the world, kind of running around, trying to,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, apps. I had never, I never even been like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I was, I was in a relationship for basically.
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  Speaker 5: 25 years, including the time we were dating.
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  Speaker 4: So it was, it was messy and odd and surreal
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  Speaker 4: at this, at the time, 55 year old was out
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  Speaker 4: doing the, you know, on a, on a dating app.
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  Speaker 4: But at the same time, I was very grateful to
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  Speaker 4: it and met a lot of great people.
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  Speaker 1: But how did you meet Taylor?
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  Speaker 6: On an app.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 4: On, on Raya. And, um, Yeah. And, and it was,
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  Speaker 4: it's everything that you said. It is really, it's, it's
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  Speaker 4: still relatively obviously new and the Instagram official aspect, I'm
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  Speaker 4: usually more private and, and, you know, she's, she's younger
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  Speaker 4: than I am. And Instagram is, is, and I, she
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  Speaker 4: knows that, you know, we talk about this stuff all
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  Speaker 4: the time, but Instagram is, you know, a big deal
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  Speaker 4: and being Instagram officials, a big deal, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think more so to potentially, um, younger generations. But so
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  Speaker 4: I'm learning and compromise and stuff, but I, I'm very,
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  Speaker 4: obviously I'm very open and happy to put it out
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  Speaker 4: there and share it with people.
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  Speaker 3: And that's great.
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  Speaker 1: Instagram is so important that that's the one place that
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  Speaker 1: Daisy uses my last name.
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  Speaker 5: You see, that's what I'm talking about. There's all these
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  Speaker 5: little things that I'm like, how does this work? We
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  Speaker 5: got to post a certain time.
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  Speaker 2: Also, talk about being Instagram officials. So we were dating
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  Speaker 2: for two years. And the first time that we were
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  Speaker 2: both on Instagram together was our wedding announcement.
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  Speaker 3: Like, hey, last night we got married.
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  Speaker 5: That was the first time. We went Instagram official on
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  Speaker 5: our wedding day.
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  Speaker 4: See, that's more the way, that's more my mentality with it.
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  Speaker 5: Whereas you kind of like do your thing.
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  Speaker 1: We went official on our wedding day.
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  Speaker 3: We went official on our wedding day.
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  Speaker 5: That is, that's what we call a hard launch. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: that was a hard launch. That's a hard launch. That's
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  Speaker 5: a hard launch. You know what I mean? I'm learning
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  Speaker 5: all these, I'm learning all these things.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: The lingo. That's what I meant. I've never heard such
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  Speaker 5: a hard launch.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: That's why. I know.
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  Speaker 1: That's impressive.
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  Speaker 3: But that's also like.
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  Speaker 1: It's so exciting. You know, I was in a really,
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  Speaker 1: really long marriage, maybe as long, if not longer than
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  Speaker 1: your first marriage. And, and then, and coming out of
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  Speaker 1: it was really, really hard and grief. There's grief in that, right?
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  Speaker 1: In the end of something like that, no matter who
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  Speaker 1: instigated it or what happened, it's very, very painful time.
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  Speaker 1: And to find that, this thing that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: which is different for everybody, and it's the thing that
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  Speaker 1: you can't really even quite accurately describe, but when you
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  Speaker 1: feel that thing again, and when you feel it at
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  Speaker 1: our age, so I was 50 when I met Daisy,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt like I do now, even at 63,
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  Speaker 1: in that way, I feel like a kid. It's the
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  Speaker 1: fountain of youth, you know, that feeling, if you can
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  Speaker 1: hold onto that feeling.
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  Speaker 4: I agree, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I have it, and I'm really glad you have it. Oh, thanks.
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  Speaker 1: Especially coming out of, you know, you've gotten beat up
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  Speaker 1: for the last five years. It's nice to see some
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  Speaker 1: good stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And I say this to her, too. I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 5: you're getting... You get a little beat up version of me.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of duct tape and staples.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I would dare to say it's the best version of you.
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  Speaker 2: Like a new and improved version. Like if you're able
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  Speaker 2: to come out of that.
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  Speaker 4: Well, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That's like you're doing, you're doing really well coming out
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  Speaker 2: of that.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: What you learn from all of that is special. So
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  Speaker 2: what are you bringing into this new relationship that you
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  Speaker 2: could not have possibly brought to your life? first one
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  Speaker 2: when you were in your twenties?
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good question, man. And I was when, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: In my twenties, when, when I met Vanessa, I was still,
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  Speaker 4: I had some grownup to do. We, we both did. We,
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  Speaker 4: we had, we had a rocky start and, and, and
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  Speaker 4: learned a lot together. And now coming in out of this,
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  Speaker 4: out of that relationship with Vanessa and then being single
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  Speaker 4: for a while and now dating Taylor, I would say,
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  Speaker 4: a resilience. Um, I would say there's also a confidence
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  Speaker 4: in knowing I'm going to be okay, no matter what,
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  Speaker 4: knowing like things are going to be okay. Like what,
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  Speaker 4: you know, things work out, things don't work out. Um,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that, that forgiveness and love and trying to see
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  Speaker 4: somebody else's perspective is just, it's just gold and it's
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  Speaker 4: going to make you, make you and others happy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: trying to, um, no matter what. Um, so, you know,
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  Speaker 4: that was, that was a tough lesson, um, to be honest, but, uh,
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  Speaker 4: and then probably many other things. There's things now that, um,
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  Speaker 4: I'm learning to do as someone, you know, or was courting,
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  Speaker 4: you know, this, this woman and dating, uh, that, uh,
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  Speaker 4: you know, to be completely frank, were things that I
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  Speaker 4: wasn't really doing anymore in the marriage, you know?
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  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: And I regret that.
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  Speaker 2: Is it realistic to expect all those things that we
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  Speaker 2: do in the beginning of a relationship? when we are
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  Speaker 2: all really just trying to be the best versions of ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: And there is a kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Love that is not possible that it lasts for 10 years,
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  Speaker 2: that beginning phase. You might fall more in love as
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  Speaker 2: time goes by. You can be at a better stage
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  Speaker 2: of your marriage that you wouldn't trade ever again for,
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  Speaker 2: for feeling, you know, the, the butterflies and that early stage.
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  Speaker 2: So I think it's not realistic to expect the.
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  Speaker 3: Things to put that on each other.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you know, whether you get married again or not,
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  Speaker 2: but let's say you're in this relationship for 10 years
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  Speaker 2: and 10 years down the line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Either one of you saying, oh, well, this isn't,
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  Speaker 3: you weren't like this. Well, you weren't like this. Well,
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  Speaker 3: that's not what it was like. Well, of course not.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and I appreciate you saying that. That's like, that's
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  Speaker 4: helpful for me to hear because it's.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like- It's very rare to hear a woman's perspective.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But that doesn't apply to you though.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that applies to everybody other than you, Daphne.
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  Speaker 5: You were so close. It's on tape now. You were
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  Speaker 5: so close. It's on tape now. I can just be like,
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  Speaker 5: wait a minute, you said this. You almost had to
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  Speaker 5: get out of jail free card. You have to keep
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  Speaker 5: doing all the things. And that's true.
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  Speaker 8: And I am, this might sound weird, but I am
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  Speaker 8: extremely proud of who I was as a husband, as
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  Speaker 8: a partner, and a father, and still am as a father, but.
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  Speaker 4: Like very, very like I know that I was like
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  Speaker 4: a good partner, you know, but could I have done more?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that is so important because I always,
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  Speaker 2: I think, and I think I said this to you,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when I met you and you were still
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  Speaker 2: feeling the way you were feeling over the end of
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  Speaker 2: your marriage, I remember saying, That was successful.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Just because a.
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  Speaker 2: Marriage ends in divorce does not mean that it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: successful and it wasn't wonderful while it lasted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. You had a very successful marriage.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like I did.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously, it would only really be fair for her to
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  Speaker 4: give you her side too. But from my perspective... We
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  Speaker 4: had a beautiful and meaningful and successful marriage.
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  Speaker 1: We really did.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not fair that because things change or people change,
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  Speaker 2: circumstances change, and you're no longer right for each other
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  Speaker 2: in that era, it's not fair to say that, oh,
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  Speaker 2: the marriage wasn't successful.
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  Speaker 1: Also, to your point about a few minutes ago, you
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  Speaker 1: were talking about the losses that you experienced in the
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  Speaker 1: last five years and how one of the lessons for
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  Speaker 1: you was to count on external things to define your
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  Speaker 1: worth or happiness. You said you're doomed if you do that.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that I just would love to expand
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  Speaker 1: on that in terms of relationships now and especially second marriages.
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  Speaker 1: Because one thing I really, really learned in my relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Daisy and in this second round of life with
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  Speaker 1: someone is, I think that the reason that our relationship
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  Speaker 1: was so ready to take the step of getting married
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  Speaker 1: was because we finally both, she before me, but we
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  Speaker 1: were really good on our own. We were finally she
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  Speaker 1: actually dumped me that's interesting early on we started dating
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  Speaker 1: and then she broke up with me because she felt
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  Speaker 1: like I had been married my whole adult life and
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  Speaker 1: she said I don't feel like you even know who you.
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  Speaker 3: Are I feel like you can't go from that directly
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  Speaker 3: into another.
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  Speaker 1: I love being with you and I think you're awesome
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  Speaker 1: but you've never dated really.
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  Speaker 3: You've never like you need to go date a bunch
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  Speaker 3: of girls you need.
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  Speaker 1: To date and you need to wow another thing you
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  Speaker 1: don't often hear from women she didn't say date by
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  Speaker 1: the way she used a different word okay but he
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  Speaker 1: needed to do it And she forced me because she said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you this because I, in the last few years,
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  Speaker 1: she had been in long relationships. She was married when
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  Speaker 1: she was young, a couple of really long relationships, but
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  Speaker 1: she had been single, dating, but single when I met
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  Speaker 1: her for like two or three years. And in that
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  Speaker 1: span of time, going into her late forties, she was like,
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  Speaker 1: I now know that I and responsible for my own happiness.
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  Speaker 3: I was so good.
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  Speaker 1: I can't make it be I can't make my happiness
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  Speaker 1: be about somebody else. Amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I was so good that I was like, if you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna come into my life that way, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: to make it better.
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  Speaker 3: And shit, that's hard, because it's so good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And in that period of months, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty little chunk, it was a chunk of time.
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  Speaker 1: It was not about dating other people. For me, it
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  Speaker 1: was about really doing this introspective work. And feeling like
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  Speaker 1: I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really good.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be with her so much, but I'm okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said.
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  Speaker 3: You had to figure out who you were without the marriage.
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  Speaker 3: To figure out that you can be okay, that you'll
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  Speaker 3: be okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's the most valuable thing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: As you guys are.
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  Speaker 4: Talking about this, I'm wondering if I gave myself that opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you said you were dating. You said you were dating.
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  Speaker 4: I was dating, but I feel like that wasn't, I
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  Speaker 4: guess that's not true because I had moments where it
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  Speaker 4: was really, you know, Getting to know myself, getting to
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  Speaker 4: know what I wanted, getting to know who I was.
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  Speaker 4: What do I, how do I imagine myself in this
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  Speaker 4: next chapter? Who do I, like, you know, all of
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  Speaker 4: these things. And, but, but mostly it got, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it just was, I used it as a, like, I
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  Speaker 4: really enjoyed it. And I really enjoyed these people. It
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  Speaker 4: was almost more like an opportunity not to go in.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: An opportunity not to feel.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Um, because it was nice. It was fun. It was like,
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  Speaker 4: it was, it was hanging out with amazing people and
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  Speaker 4: doing cool things.
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  Speaker 3: But in the process, you do learn a lot about yourself.
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  Speaker 4: I did. And, and especially in the process and now
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  Speaker 4: back in, in a committed relationship, uh, and, and, and
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  Speaker 4: the contrast between the two again, um, was, was very, uh,
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  Speaker 4: Very helpful.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you see yourself in this new era?
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  Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
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  Speaker 2: Like is marriage, are you open to marriage again? Is
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  Speaker 2: that something that could happen or?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I, I never really thought that I, that I
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  Speaker 4: would be, but I am open to marriage again.
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  Speaker 1: Has Taylor been married before?
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  Speaker 4: She has not. No, she has not. She has no kids.
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  Speaker 4: And I know that she wants kids. That's a boundary
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  Speaker 4: for her, which I think is amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Um, and she knows that I had no plans on
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  Speaker 4: having more kids, you know, for, uh, 20 years. And, uh,
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  Speaker 4: then I, you know, we've talked about it. This is
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  Speaker 4: like a little bit, probably too much information.
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  Speaker 6: But we've talked about the fact that this is something
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  Speaker 6: that I'm exploring and open to think about, but at
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  Speaker 6: the same time, it's, it's a, that's a very big decision.
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  Speaker 4: I've got two grown, beautiful kids. I'm 57 years old.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But the most beautiful thing and the most important thing
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  Speaker 2: is that, yeah, you're open.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You don't know what's going to happen, but you're open.
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  Speaker 5: And we talk about it regularly.
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  Speaker 4: Like, you know what I mean? It's not like this
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  Speaker 4: elephant in the room where it comes up and we
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  Speaker 4: discuss it and where I'm at and things like that.
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  Speaker 4: And I talk to other people about it. And I
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  Speaker 4: talked to my brother who just had a baby a
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  Speaker 4: couple of years ago, who's older than me and, you know,
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  Speaker 4: things like that. So there's, So open to marriage, uh, I'm,
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  Speaker 4: I'm thinking and, and, you know, exploring the possibility of,
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  Speaker 4: of being open to kids again.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where I'm at.
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  Speaker 4: And then, yeah, but, but really where I see myself, I, I,
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  Speaker 4: I want, um, my goal is to have more balance and,
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  Speaker 4: and have a simpler life right now. It's, it's very
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  Speaker 4: busy and it's, it's, and I'm very grateful. Um, but it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's a little chaotic and, uh, And so that, and
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  Speaker 4: that'll happen and I'll just, I just gotta kind of
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  Speaker 4: create it, but, um, yeah, it's just as in this,
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  Speaker 4: in this next chapter too, I just, you know, now
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  Speaker 4: we've got a home home base.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the kids, what does that look like for you?
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  Speaker 7: Simplifying or, um, you know, my career has always been,
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  Speaker 7: we chatted about this a little bit beforehand, but like,
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  Speaker 7: it's always been, uh, lots of little compartments or lots
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  Speaker 7: of big compartments.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I work as an actor, I work as a,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: as a TV host. I work in the functional health
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: coaching space. I, you know, I've got, you know, I
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: do Christmas movies. I do, you know, good morning America.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I've got all general health. Like I've got these components,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: which are all amazing. And, you know, there's other things
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: brewing too. But each one of them really treats you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: And you guys know this because you, you, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: you've done multiple things. each, each little compartment of your life,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: of your work life treats you like, this is all
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: you got.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: This is, this is it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Like, you know, they, they, they're relating to you. Like
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: you're putting in everything of you to this, but I
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: got five others doing the same thing. And it's a
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: lot of pressure and it's a lot of, and it
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: can add to, and, but the, you know, the, the
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: fear is, and this is never a good thing. But
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: in this business, you know, if you're not working, you're
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: not making money. And I've got, you know, kids to support.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: And we lost, like I said, a lot of money
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: in the fires and alimony. And, you know, they got
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: a new house. Like, you know, it's, yeah, there's.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: A lot going on.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: It's tough to find the balance.
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: It's tough to find the balance.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: It's tough to find the balance.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: And I feel like I have moments of it. I
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: feel like I have moments of it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: As we get older, that's more and more important.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You know, and all the things that you need to
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: do become less important.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: Tell us about the movie. The movie, Very Arctic Christmas.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Very Arctic Christmas. Tell us everything.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: I have to tell you.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: We saw the trailer.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is so up my alley.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Immediately Daisy was like, oh my God, we have to
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: watch this.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I've got to see this.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: It's a really sweet one. You know, everybody's, they're all sweet.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: All the Christmas movies. Go out and see some Christmas movies, everybody.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I've been lucky enough to make a lot of them.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: This one was extra special. It was inspired by, so
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I'm very close with my kids and we do these travel.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: We've always traveled together as a family, but you know,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: now that, and Vanessa and I now travel to kids individually.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: And we do it in a way where the kids
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: get to choose trips, whether it's just me and my
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: daughter or me and my son or me and both
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: of them. And we have amazing times and it's, it's.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: A big part of.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Uh, to the point where they both chose to travel, uh,
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: study abroad in Europe and things like that. So this
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: was inspired by. Um, my relationship with my kids and
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: the travel we do, and also the challenges we've been
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: through and, and sort of us kind of starting a
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: new chapter as, as a, as a family. And, um,
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: and it's really beautiful. It's like, basically he tried to
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: write it, Robin Dunn, who wrote and directed and produced this, um,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: tried to write it as a, so that used a
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: lot of exact things that I've done with my daughter
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: and things, funny lines in the movie that I would say. Um,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: and it's a beautiful story about second chances. It's, it's
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: a story about balance and learning when to say no,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and the importance of, of connection and family. And it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: really a father daughter story. which I've never done in
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: these Christmas movies. And of course, both the father and
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: the daughter, both myself and the, and the, and the
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: actress playing my daughter, Maya, uh, have a romantic, uh,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: you know, well, you have to watch to find out.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: But, uh, but it's, it's a, it's a very sweet
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: movie and, and, and very touching. And one of the
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: scenes in particular between myself and, and my, who plays
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: my daughter was written specifically, uh, based on a conversation
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I kind of had with my daughter where, It was
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: pretty personal, but more along the lines of, you know,
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: am I doing okay? Am I a good dad? Have
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: I been a good dad? Did I let you, like,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you know, it's a really touching scene. And she did
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: such a nice job in it and I feel like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: it was pretty authentic for me. How old are your kids?
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: My daughter's 20 and my son is 23.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: And are they back or are they still studying?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: My son studies in London in fashion design at Central
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Saint Martin. He's crushing, he's an amazing school there and
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: he's doing really well. And my daughter was studying psychology
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: in Paris for two years. And now she's transferred to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: a school in New York.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: She's a little closer.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: You know, have they been really supportive?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Cause they're kind of young adults now and I feel
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: like they can be supportive to both you and your ex.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Have they been helpful and understanding?
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: They've been amazing. You mean with, Meeting new people and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: things like that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: Just with everything you've gone through, yeah.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: It was very, very hard for them. We had an
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: amazing family. And I think from one perspective, the kids
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: were like, if this marriage doesn't work out, then any
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: marriage cannot work out. And that was, you know, my
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: daughter said that to me once.
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: She had anxiety about it. My son just said that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Like a couple of weeks ago.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: No way.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: My youngest son.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Wait, are we getting divorced? Oh, they weren't talking about me.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: No, not you.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Other one. Whatever.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: He had never said that to me. You know, all
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: three of my sons, I'm really, really close to them.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: They all live here and they're in their thirties. Really
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: adore Daisy, close to Daisy. We spend a lot of
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: time together as this family. They're still very close to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: their mom, but we were talking because my youngest son
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: has been in a long relationship and his I wouldn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: say hesitation is the wrong word, but his concerns or
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: his thoughtfulness about marriage for himself. He finally said to me, quote, well,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you fucked me up on that one. Because he said,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I was sure that you and mom were going to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: be together forever.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: But that's a testament to the relationship that you had.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Yes, because they didn't see problems.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: And the job that you and their mother did as
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: parents and what you did with your ex that your
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: kids thought well.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: It blindsided them.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Well, this is as good as it gets. And that's
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: the real success.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: You said you were taken by surprise in your divorce.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Were your kids taken by surprise?
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: I was, yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: And again, I try to just, talk is, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: just from my side about it because obviously she, she
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: deserves herself. But yes, it was, it was a big
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: surprise to me. And, and I, from what I could tell,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: it was a big surprise from the kids too.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: But that's, that, that's what makes the marriage successful that
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: while it was working, everybody thinks that this is as
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: good as it gets.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: And it was for the time that it, that it
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: was great.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: And with that said, I, it's, it seems also like
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: my kids are also very supportive of their mom doing
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: thing and making changes in her life and and of
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: course you know i wouldn't want to imply otherwise but
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: um yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I agree with you yeah that's nice well you're due
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: for a bunch of years of nothing but good things
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: cameron yeah well you know you've come through you know
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: a really hard period with uh seemingly so much grace
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: yeah well thanks and it's really really lovely to see
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: i appreciate that i'm we're both happy that you're in
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a good place.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And I think the way you share and you're so
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: open about it, it's so helpful because everybody goes through things.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. Well, I appreciate the chance to come and
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: talk to you guys about it.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I really do. And congrats on the movie.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Thanks.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Can't wait to see it.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: I love a good Christmas movie.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's, I got a text actually
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: earlier today from the director. He goes, Cameron, this movie's
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: blowing up.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: People are loving it. Have you seen it?
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: So I think people are enjoying it, which makes me happy.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Where can everybody see it?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: On Great American Family or they can stream it on
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Great American Pure Flix or GFam Plus.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Awesome.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Awesome.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Cameron.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Thanks, guys.
• 25:21
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