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The Kenny Report | 6 November · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The growth of government is the federal public service build
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  Speaker 2: tops forty billion dollars and a quarter of a trillion
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  Speaker 2: dollars across all governments.
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  Speaker 1: The net zero debate, Why is it all about politics?
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  Speaker 1: I thought the left were saving the planet.
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  Speaker 2: I'll also check in on a major nuclear exhibition in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: Also I'll speak with Alexander Downer about the new socialist
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  Speaker 2: mayor of New York City, Claire Row on whether governments
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  Speaker 2: are trying to force kids into childcare. Also Mark Robinson
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  Speaker 2: on the Ashes, and Tim and Mark on Bobcatter's Big
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  Speaker 2: day out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get cracking.
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  Speaker 2: Some numbers came out today that confirm one of the
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  Speaker 2: two biggest problems in politics today, and that is the
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  Speaker 2: relentless growth in government. More government spending, more government departments,
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  Speaker 2: more government control role, more government interference, more government everywhere
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  Speaker 2: we look. More government, more taxes, more debt. According to
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  Speaker 2: the Australian Bureau of Statistics, the Albanezy Labor government increased
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  Speaker 2: its spending on public service jobs by eight point six
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  Speaker 2: percent in the last financial year. It's been an extra
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  Speaker 2: three and a half billion dollars. That's three thousand, five
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  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars on public servants, adding an extra twenty
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  Speaker 2: one thousand people to the payroll. So it now spends
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  Speaker 2: nearly forty one billion dollars a year employing three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty six thousand public servants. That's an increase of
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  Speaker 2: five point seven percent when the Australian population has grown
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  Speaker 2: by just one point six percent across the country. Across
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  Speaker 2: state and local governments too, spending on government jobs has
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  Speaker 2: risen by seven point six percent, with a total cost
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  Speaker 2: of two hundred and fifty billion dollars. That's a quarter
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  Speaker 2: of a trillion dollars. Governments are employing more people and
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  Speaker 2: they're paying the more, and we wonder why inflation is up.
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  Speaker 2: The Treasurer, however, is in denial, pretending his actions have
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  Speaker 2: nothing to do with inflation and therefore interest rates.
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  Speaker 3: If he is saying that the budget is the primary
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  Speaker 3: determinant of movements in interest rates in our economy. And
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  Speaker 3: we've had three interest rate cuts this year, including two
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  Speaker 3: interest rate cuts since the budget are handed down from
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  Speaker 3: this dispatch box in March.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and now interest rate cuts have stopped because the
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  Speaker 2: Reserve Bank got it wrong. Inflation wasn't beaten because the
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  Speaker 2: government spending continues and the government's policies continue.
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  Speaker 1: To push up power prices, and we wonder why.
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  Speaker 2: Deficits and debt are up, and we wonder why the
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  Speaker 2: Green left vote is up with an increasing share of
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  Speaker 2: the country reliant on government for their wages. This is
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  Speaker 2: a global trend, a global problem, and we need to
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  Speaker 2: address it.
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  Speaker 1: In our country.
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  Speaker 2: Since the bailouts from the global financial crisis and then
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  Speaker 2: especially from the over reaction to the COVID pandemic, government
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  Speaker 2: has expanded massively, so that all the lessons we learned
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  Speaker 2: about big government, about socialism, and about the benefits of
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  Speaker 2: free enterprise and small government, well, they seem to have
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  Speaker 2: been forgotten. We've just seen this play out in New
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  Speaker 2: York City with Zorn Mamdani promising free buses, free childcare,
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  Speaker 2: free everything.
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  Speaker 4: An agenda that will freeze the rents for more than
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  Speaker 4: two million rents, stabilized tenants, make buses fast and free,
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  Speaker 4: and deliver universal childcare across our city.
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  Speaker 2: And as I'll show you in this next clip, this
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  Speaker 2: logic of Ma'am Duney's, well, this anti logic. It seeks
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  Speaker 2: to unlearn the lessons of American politicians from either side
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  Speaker 2: of the divide, from successful Republicans and Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is
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  Speaker 1: the problem. We know big government does not have all
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  Speaker 1: the answers. We know there's not a program for every problem.
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  Speaker 4: We will prove that there is no problem too large
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  Speaker 4: for government to solve and no concern too small.
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  Speaker 1: For it to care about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, government as a solution to everything. This will all
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  Speaker 2: go pear shaped. Watch it over the next couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: and weep, But don't think we're immune. Watch our own politicians,
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  Speaker 2: state and federal, constantly pretending that when they spray around
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  Speaker 2: money they're actually giving us free stuff.
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  Speaker 5: We committed to cut student debt by twenty percent, and
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  Speaker 5: we delivered it. We committed to make medicine is cheaper,
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  Speaker 5: and we've delivered that. We expanded paid parental leave and
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  Speaker 5: super paid on PPL, and.
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  Speaker 1: We've delivered that as well.
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  Speaker 5: We committed to ten thousand dollars bonuses for construction apprentices
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  Speaker 5: and paid PRAP for teachers, nurses, social workers, and midwives,
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  Speaker 5: and we have delivered that.
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  Speaker 6: We committed to the largest investment boost ever in medicare
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  Speaker 6: tripling the bulk billing incentive and on Saturday we delivered that.
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  Speaker 7: And of course the Albanezi government's delivering on a plan
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  Speaker 7: for cheaper, more reliable energy for Australians including.
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  Speaker 8: One hundred and thirteen thousand, two hundred and fifty fevent
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  Speaker 8: home batteries got.
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  Speaker 1: To be installed. It's the first of July.
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  Speaker 2: Someone has to pay for all this. We're addicted to
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  Speaker 2: handouts too. Many of us have got our hands out,
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  Speaker 2: I mean labor are now promising free electricity. The fact
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  Speaker 2: they can even pretend to promise this shows how our
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  Speaker 2: economic and political debate has completely lost touch with reality.
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  Speaker 2: Yet they pretend that they're the ones with their finger
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  Speaker 2: on the pulse.
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  Speaker 8: Hallucinations is a common theme is to speak up.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the.
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  Speaker 8: National Party and the Liberal Party following you. Talk about
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  Speaker 8: tonight zero lt ME a few minutes before it's announced
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  Speaker 8: that the Liberal parties followed them. The Party of Bevenges
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  Speaker 8: is becoming a party of sky nears frenzies.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this bloke who tries to sell free electricity and
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  Speaker 2: discount batteries and says power bills are coming down when
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  Speaker 2: they're still reaching new records he's the one in touch
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  Speaker 2: with the real world. Apparently there will be a reckoning.
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  Speaker 2: The future for the coalition is to get its act together,
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  Speaker 2: call out this folly, and be ready to write the
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  Speaker 2: ship when reality hits home. Now I reckon the second
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  Speaker 2: big problem in politics these days is truth and the
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  Speaker 2: lack of it. Too many people in the digital age
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  Speaker 2: are spreading lies and misinformation, and our political debate is
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  Speaker 2: losing touch with the facts, losing touch with reality.
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  Speaker 1: And on that, I want to point.
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  Speaker 2: Out something very illuminating about the net zero by twenty
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  Speaker 2: fifty debate. It gives the game away for the green
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  Speaker 2: left zealots. Now you know I oppose net zero by
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifty. First, it can't be done. All the science, engineering,
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  Speaker 2: and economics outlined by the UN Zone International Energy Agency
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  Speaker 2: says net zero is impossible with current technology. Second, the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the world's not doing it. Global emissions continued
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  Speaker 2: to rise by multiples of Australia's total emissions every year,
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  Speaker 2: and therefore the third point is that all the pain,
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  Speaker 2: expense and self harm of us trying to get to
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  Speaker 2: net zero is done for no environmental benefit. We inflict
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  Speaker 2: enormous pain on ourselves for no gain. That's the reality.
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  Speaker 2: It's literally insane. But here's the thing. The biggest lie
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  Speaker 2: of the green left, the climate alarmis of labor, the
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  Speaker 2: greens and the tills. The biggest lie is their pretense
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  Speaker 2: that what we do here will change the climate, will
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  Speaker 2: save the planet, will protect us from natural disasters.
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  Speaker 5: We live in a country that has always had natural disasters.
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  Speaker 5: What we're seeing is events that are changing increasingly increasingly
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  Speaker 5: governments having to respond to that.
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  Speaker 7: Natural disasters are increasingly frequent, more intense, and natural disasters
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  Speaker 7: are increasingly less natural. They're less natural because they're killed
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  Speaker 7: cause by human induced climate chain. I mean this is
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  Speaker 7: a statement of scientific fact.
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  Speaker 5: What will make a difference on climate change is investing
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  Speaker 5: in the best and cheapest.
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  Speaker 1: Form of new energy.
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  Speaker 5: That energy is that energy is renewables.
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  Speaker 7: Natural disasters are increasingly frequent, increasingly severe, and it's important
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  Speaker 7: that Australians know their governments will be with them as
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  Speaker 7: we deal with these natural disasters.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is absolute Tosh, of course, and they must
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  Speaker 2: know it. But in the here and now, with the
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  Speaker 2: prospect of the Coalition abandoning net zero and therefore future
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  Speaker 2: Australian governments not working towards net zero. Well, you think
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  Speaker 2: the green left would be petrified, wouldn't you. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: these people reckon they're saving the planet. Wouldn't they be
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  Speaker 2: terrified that what the coalition is proposing will unleash floods
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  Speaker 2: and fires and storms and rising sea levels and cyclones
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  Speaker 2: and drought and everything else they try.
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  Speaker 1: To blame on climate change.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't these people be alarmed about our cities, our landscape
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  Speaker 2: and our planet. Don't they tell us that their net
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  Speaker 2: zero policies are going to protect us from all of this.
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  Speaker 1: But they're not saying that, are they.
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  Speaker 2: All they do is talk about politics and a bit
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  Speaker 2: of economics, mainly politics.
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  Speaker 9: It really is quite a thing that those opposite decide
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  Speaker 9: to reject net zero and therefore reject what the resources
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  Speaker 9: sector knows is best for this country.
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  Speaker 3: The only outcome worse than a disorderly transition would be
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  Speaker 3: if we abandon net zero entirely, which is what those
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  Speaker 3: opposite are now.
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  Speaker 5: Calling for, bagging each other speaking about how Australia will
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  Speaker 5: become a pariah state if they accept the view of
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  Speaker 5: those opposite. Of those opposite in the National Party and
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  Speaker 5: some of the Liberal about abolishing net zero because we
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  Speaker 5: have a very clear position when it comes to energy
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  Speaker 5: going forward.
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  Speaker 2: It is to.
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  Speaker 5: Support the cheapest form of new new energy, which is redewables.
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  Speaker 2: Even the millionaire son of a billionaire, the man behind
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  Speaker 2: the tills, Simon Holmes at Court, has written on the
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  Speaker 2: issue today.
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  Speaker 1: And for him it's all about politics too.
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  Speaker 2: It turns out he's not so worried about a boiling planet,
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  Speaker 2: but he's worried about the political prospects of the Liberals.
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  Speaker 2: The lesson from the past two elections should be blindingly obvious.
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  Speaker 2: He writes, Australians will not back a coalition that refuses
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  Speaker 2: to take climate change seriously, as if he's worried about
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  Speaker 2: the Liberals and their political prospects, and as if he
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  Speaker 2: doesn't know that the Liberals went to the last two
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  Speaker 2: elections supporting net zero by twenty fifty. Anyway, the media
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  Speaker 2: is all in on this equal obsession. To have a
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  Speaker 2: listen to the ABC interviewing the National's leader.
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  Speaker 10: Does it matter to you that your decision puts enormous
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  Speaker 10: pressure on Susan Lee's leadership of the Liberal Party. Would
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  Speaker 10: you accept this much that this decision of yours makes
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  Speaker 10: it harder for Liberals to win back particularly urban or
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  Speaker 10: suburban seats at the next election. Does that mean, David
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  Speaker 10: Little rather that you think that the Liberal Party's adherence
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  Speaker 10: to net zero to this point is one of the
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  Speaker 10: main drivers of their unpopularity in the polls.
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  Speaker 1: Politics. Politics, politics.
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  Speaker 2: They might misread the politics, misunderstand them and misrepresent them,
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  Speaker 2: but the point is they're obsessed with the politics of
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  Speaker 2: the climate and energy debate, not the science.
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  Speaker 1: They don't express fear of more.
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  Speaker 2: Droughts and fires and floods and cyclones. They don't express
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  Speaker 2: despair for the planet's future. Why because they actually know
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  Speaker 2: that those arguments are tosh. They know that what Australia
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  Speaker 2: does can have no impact on the climate. They know
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  Speaker 2: that their interest in this issue is all about politics
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  Speaker 2: and all about using the climate scared to push an
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  Speaker 2: ideological approach and attack the parties of the right. They
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  Speaker 2: give their own game away. Let's go straight back down
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  Speaker 2: to Canberra now and catch up with senior political reporter
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  Speaker 2: at Trudy Macintosh, who's got some breaking news on the
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  Speaker 2: Liberals and the net zero debate.
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  Speaker 1: Timeline Truly what's the latest?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, Chris, I have my hands on the whips memo
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  Speaker 11: that's gone out to all coalition Liberal senators and MPs.
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  Speaker 11: There is going to be a special part of room
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  Speaker 11: meeting here at next Wednesday at lunchtime for the Liberals
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  Speaker 11: finally to discuss in one room what is going to
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  Speaker 11: happen with net zero. They're going to discuss a set
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  Speaker 11: of principles for endorsement and then be allowed to ask questions,
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  Speaker 11: but it's a tortured process. The following day, at nine
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  Speaker 11: am on Thursday, there's going to be a full meeting
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  Speaker 11: of the Liberal Shadow Ministry to formalize that position. Then
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  Speaker 11: three members of the Liberal Party three members of the
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  Speaker 11: NATS will be chosen. They then see if they can
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  Speaker 11: reconcile the two positions. Then on the following Sunday there
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  Speaker 11: is going to be a virtual joint party room meeting
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  Speaker 11: to get both wings of the coalition on the same page.
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  Speaker 11: That's the goal at least on net zero. But finally
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  Speaker 11: this breaking news confirmation they will be recalled to Parliament
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  Speaker 11: the Liberals next Wednesday, this party room meeting on net zero.
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  Speaker 1: Chris, Yeah, so Parliament's not sitting next week.
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  Speaker 2: They're all going to come into Canber to have this meeting,
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  Speaker 2: and as you say, they go through that process, hopefully
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  Speaker 2: have a satisfied coalition position Sunday week. That means for
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  Speaker 2: the final couple of weeks of Parliament that'll be going
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  Speaker 2: on with competing policies presumably.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 11: Interesting to see that there's a week after this process
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  Speaker 11: plays out, Chris, where Parliament won't be here. Then it's
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  Speaker 11: the final week of November where we will see all
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  Speaker 11: MP's and senator's return for the final time.
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  Speaker 1: Great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Truly appreciate that breaking news there from Trudy McIntosh in canbra.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to another studio in Canberra now and catch
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  Speaker 2: up with Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson to get some reaction
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  Speaker 2: to that. Sarah, you've been pleased about that, wyonn't you
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  Speaker 2: just over a week's time you might have this policy
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  Speaker 2: matter settled.
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  Speaker 12: Well, Chris, good afternoon, and yes, that's very much breaking news.
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  Speaker 12: I just got it on my phone information about the
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  Speaker 12: meeting next Wednesday, and I think it's very important that
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  Speaker 12: we resolve our policy position very quickly. I am very
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  Speaker 12: firmly of the view that we have to reject net
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  Speaker 12: zero in its entirety. It is causing enormous economic and
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  Speaker 12: environmental harm right across our country. It's costing thousands of jobs.
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  Speaker 12: Of course, electricity prices are skyrocketing, it's doing nothing for
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  Speaker 12: global emissions, and our energy grid is becoming more and
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  Speaker 12: more unreliable. So I really hope and I would commend Chris.
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  Speaker 12: There's a wonderful bit of work done by the Nats,
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  Speaker 12: by the Page or Search Center delivering a high energy Australia.
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  Speaker 12: Anyone sitting on the fence needs to read this excellent
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  Speaker 12: piece of work because the Nationals have done a wonderful
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  Speaker 12: job at ensuring that we have a high energy future,
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  Speaker 12: that we reduce emissions, but we we do not ensure
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  Speaker 12: that Australians pay the ultimate price through these crippling costs
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  Speaker 12: which are sending our nation backwards.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as you point out, of course, the Nationals have
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  Speaker 2: done that work and they've come out with their position.
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  Speaker 1: You support that position.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only option for the coalition is the Liberals
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  Speaker 2: have to match that, otherwise you're going to have the
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  Speaker 2: coalition falling apart and the complete shambles on the non
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  Speaker 2: labor side.
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  Speaker 12: Look, the Nats have done an incredible amount of work
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  Speaker 12: and I really do commend them. They've really identified the
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  Speaker 12: enormous harms that have been caused, particularly to regional Australia.
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  Speaker 12: So ninety five percent of emissions reduction is actually being
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  Speaker 12: delivered through various schemes applied to farmers and land and
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  Speaker 12: the like. And while Labour's ridiculous targets the twenty thirty
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  Speaker 12: emissions reduction target and the twenty thirty five target are
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  Speaker 12: a nonsense. We're not going to get anywhere in each
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  Speaker 12: near reaching them. We're not going to get to net zero.
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  Speaker 12: The whole thing is really a joke as far as
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  Speaker 12: I'm concerned, and we need to focus on the fact
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  Speaker 12: that we are blessed. We are resource rich country, Chris.
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  Speaker 12: We are blessed with incredible deposits of coal, of gas,
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  Speaker 12: of uranium, of critical minerals, and we need to make
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  Speaker 12: the most of it in this country. And we're unique
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  Speaker 12: in the world. We're not Europe, we're not the UK,
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  Speaker 12: we're not the United States, where where of course there's
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  Speaker 12: a very very large population. We cannot turn our back
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  Speaker 12: on these incredible resources. We've got to make the most
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  Speaker 12: of them. And yes there is also a role for renewables,
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  Speaker 12: but Labours renewables only madness is causing enormous harm to
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  Speaker 12: our country and that's why we've got to reject net
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  Speaker 12: zero in its entirety.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to those abs figures
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  Speaker 2: about the size of government expanding another twenty one thousand
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  Speaker 2: federal public servants forty one billion dollar bill. Growth in
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  Speaker 2: public servants and their wages is far outstripping the population
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  Speaker 2: growth in this country and inflation in this country. Therefore
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  Speaker 2: it must be driving inflation. This has to be arrested,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't it.
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  Speaker 12: Well, of course we've heard the public service jobs have
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  Speaker 12: gone up by another eight point six percent. The spending
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  Speaker 12: is out of control, and of course that is driving
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  Speaker 12: higher inflation than we should otherwise have. And as we know, Chris,
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  Speaker 12: we're spending would you believe fifty thousand dollars in interest
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  Speaker 12: payments a minute in this country because of Labour's trillion
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  Speaker 12: dollar debt. They are not managing their spending and that
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  Speaker 12: has to be really Labor's got to explain what they
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  Speaker 12: are going to do, because how are they going to
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  Speaker 12: pay for this? How are they going to continue this trajectory,
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  Speaker 12: which of course is impacting on everyday Australians, including on
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  Speaker 12: the cost of mortgages and of rents.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah Henderson, thanks so much for joining us, and I
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  Speaker 2: look forward to you're getting back to Canberra with your
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  Speaker 2: colleagues next week to tackle the net zero climate and
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  Speaker 2: energy policy.
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  Speaker 1: Let's got to Adelaid now and catch up.
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  Speaker 2: With Australia's longest serving foreign minister, as we do every Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: Alexander Downer is there, Alexander, very keen to get your
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  Speaker 2: impressions of what are unfolded in the US yesterday a
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  Speaker 2: big wins for the Democrats in a lot of government
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  Speaker 2: elections around the country, but of course the main one
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  Speaker 2: Zorn Mumdani in New York City of our Democratic Socialist.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Well, this is a continuation of a trend which has
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  Speaker 13: been going on in liberal democracy for a few years now,
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  Speaker 13: and that is populists, as they're sometimes called by the media,
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  Speaker 13: are increasingly replacing establishment candidates. And in this case this
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  Speaker 13: is a battle within the Democratic Party where somebody on
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  Speaker 13: the far left of the party who proclaims that he
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  Speaker 13: will be able to solve the issue of high rents,
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  Speaker 13: the rental crisis in New York City get selected over
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  Speaker 13: a more moderate, if you like, establishment democrat in Andrew Cuomo,
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  Speaker 13: the former governor.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So there you have it.
• 20:38
  Speaker 13: I mean high rents, people complaining about it. The Democrats
• 20:43
  Speaker 13: didn't do anything.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: To resolve it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 13: People in New York are not going to vote for
• 20:48
  Speaker 13: the Republicans, so they vote for a radical Democrat out
• 20:52
  Speaker 13: of desperation, really to see if he can do something
• 20:57
  Speaker 13: to solve that problem, which, by the way, I'm pretty
• 21:00
  Speaker 13: sure he won't be able to.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Well, exactly, I want to go to some of his
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: victory speech from yesterday actually because I think it's very illuminating.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: This is Ma'm Damie giving a message to President Trump.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: I think the lesson for the President is that it's
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: not enough to diagnose the crisis in working class Americans' lives.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You have to deliver on addressing that crisis. What scares
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Republicans across the country is the fact that we will
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: actually deliver on this agenda, and the contrast is something
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: that they cannot bear to witness.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm in the hutzpah here, Alexander.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: He's saying it's not good enough to diagnose the problem.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: That's all he's done.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: He's got no solutions, And the Democrats have had no
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: solutions to these problems in New York City for the
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: many years prior.
• 21:48
  Speaker 13: Well, they've run New York City for a long time,
• 21:51
  Speaker 13: well since Giuliani was the mayor. I guess that's a
• 21:56
  Speaker 13: very long time, twenty or so years.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: And so the.
• 22:00
  Speaker 13: Rental crisis has happened under the Democrats. Mandami's solution is
• 22:07
  Speaker 13: to freeze rents, to mandate a rent freeze. Whether he'll
• 22:11
  Speaker 13: be able to do that or not is an interesting
• 22:15
  Speaker 13: constitutional question, but that's what he's proposing to do. If
• 22:20
  Speaker 13: you freeze rents, then there will be fewer properties rented out,
• 22:27
  Speaker 13: so for anybody new coming into the market, those rents
• 22:31
  Speaker 13: will will of course be much higher. For those who
• 22:34
  Speaker 13: benefit from the freeze, that's fine, but in the end
• 22:39
  Speaker 13: you start to destroy the whole of the rental market.
• 22:42
  Speaker 13: So it doesn't make any economic sense. But then socialism
• 22:48
  Speaker 13: never did make any economic sense, and it's been tried
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: for hundreds of years in all sorts of parts of
• 22:54
  Speaker 13: the world, and every time it's been tried, it's ended
• 22:58
  Speaker 13: in tears. Expect New York to push back eventually against
• 23:03
  Speaker 13: this socialist experiment, but it might be good for the
• 23:06
  Speaker 13: Republicans elsewhere in the country.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just come to that at the moment. Let's
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: have a look at what President Donald Trump said in reply, for.
• 23:15
  Speaker 14: A thousand years, communism has not worked to just communism
• 23:19
  Speaker 14: or the concept of communism, has that worked. I tend
• 23:23
  Speaker 14: to doubt it's going to work this time.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Did you see his victory speech.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: It's literally never worked.
• 23:27
  Speaker 15: Yeah.
• 23:27
  Speaker 14: I thought it was a very angry speech, certainly angry
• 23:30
  Speaker 14: toward me, and I think he should be very nice
• 23:32
  Speaker 14: to me. You know, I'm the one that sort of
• 23:33
  Speaker 14: has to approve a lot of things coming to him,
• 23:36
  Speaker 14: So he's off to a bad start.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the point here, Alexander, that you were
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: just getting to is, ma'am.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Damie's going to be such a prominent opponent to Donald Trump.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: This radical hard left democrat will become the figurehead of
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the Democrats nationwide, which is not going to help any
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: mainstream centrist Democrat candidates right across the country.
• 23:59
  Speaker 13: No, much more of an issue, not an issue for
• 24:02
  Speaker 13: Donald Trump and the Republicans, much more an issue for
• 24:05
  Speaker 13: the Democrats themselves, because Mandani is a poster boy for
• 24:11
  Speaker 13: many Democrat voters now and so when it comes to
• 24:16
  Speaker 13: the primaries in the lead up to the midterms, but
• 24:20
  Speaker 13: more importantly for twenty twenty eight the presidential election, the
• 24:25
  Speaker 13: far left are going to have a lot of momentum,
• 24:29
  Speaker 13: and knowing America as I do, I don't think that's
• 24:33
  Speaker 13: a country that in the end is going to vote
• 24:35
  Speaker 13: for the far left. So this is very dangerous territory
• 24:39
  Speaker 13: for the Democrats. But you know, this is what's happening everywhere.
• 24:43
  Speaker 13: People have got fed up with the whether they're left
• 24:46
  Speaker 13: wing or right wing, they've got fed up with the
• 24:49
  Speaker 13: status quo, and they're spraying around with their votes as
• 24:53
  Speaker 13: they desperately look for a solution. Mandami might not be
• 24:58
  Speaker 13: a solution, but the fact that people voted or Democrats
• 25:03
  Speaker 13: have voted for them for him just shows how tired
• 25:07
  Speaker 13: they are of the elites who have been running the
• 25:10
  Speaker 13: Democratic Party up until now.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: Spot on great analysis, Alexander. Thanks for joining us, Alexander
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: down of there live from Adelaide. We're going to get
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to a break. After the break, I'm going to check
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: in on a major nuclear energy exhibition in Paris.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Now here's a bit of a contrast for you.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: While we're stuck in the dark ages refusing to have
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: a sensorable debate about nuclear energy here in Australia, over
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: in France, the World Nuclear Exhibition is underway. It's the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: world's largest civil nuclear convention with twenty five thousand participants
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: one thousand exhibitors, including twenty five countries, a record twenty
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: five countries.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: With their own pavilions.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Let's bring in Jasmine Diab from Global Nuclear Security Partners Australia.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: She joins us live from Sydney. Good to talk to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you again. Jasmine.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: Tell us about this exhibition and what it says about
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the so called renaissance of nuclear energy.
• 26:14
  Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, Chris. This is a really exciting time the
• 26:18
  Speaker 9: nuclear industry has come together in Paris to talk about
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: all the developments in not only the current nuclear space,
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: but the future possibilities of clean nuclear power. So they're
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: looking at the current plans for new nuclear builds, but excitingly,
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: they're also looking at some future technologies for nuclear energy
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: in things like commercial maritime shipping, in agricultural uses, nuclear
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: medicine production, as well as desalination and all these other
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: really amazing technologies that nuclear is supporting.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible to I've read some of their material.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Of course, companies from eighty different countries involved.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: There's all about high tech.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: New solutions for the future. As you say, but you
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: know this is something that Australia shuns. We're not one
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: of those twenty five countries with a pavilion there, even
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: though we're one of the biggest exporters of uranium in
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the world. To me, it just underscores how by keeping
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: out of this nuclear industry, Australia is excluding itself from
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: one of the most high tech and prospective areas of
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: global technological development.
• 27:30
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you're right there. We are a nuclear nation. We
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: have been mining uranium for a long time. We also
• 27:36
  Speaker 9: produce a lot of the Southern hemispheres nuclear medicine isotopes,
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: so most Australians will have two nuclear medicine isotope procedures
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: in their lifetime. Yet we are not heavily involved in
• 27:48
  Speaker 9: the biggest nuclear industry exhibition globally, which is a real
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: shame because there is so much opportunity in the nuclear
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: innovation space in Australia. I deal with a lot of
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: university students who are excited about nuclear careers and the
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: ideas they have, especially in the future of energy, is fantastic,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: but we currently still have the legislative ban in place
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: that restricts them from doing any meaningful innovation domestically, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: we lose them to overseas countries that will lap them
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: up and buy their technology before we've even had a
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: chance to understand it.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: It seems so bizarre as you say that Lucas Heights
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Facility and Stow Facility does so much important research and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: production when it comes to medical nuclear medicine. But also
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: of course there's the export of our uranium. Also, though
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: we are intending currently under the Orcht Plan, we're going
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: to construct nuclear submarines in this country. So we ought
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to be embracing this sort of technological exchange, this sort
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: of exhibition.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: That we've seen in Paris right now, shouldn't we?
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we definitely should. We have a past, young workforce
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: that wants to be more involved in nuclear and this
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: is a perfect exhibition for us to demonstrate our talents,
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: demonstrate our wares. As you mentioned, we're embarking on an
• 29:12
  Speaker 9: ambitious nuclear power program to propel submarines under the sea,
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: and all that skills and knowledge is all stuff that
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: stems to our much wider involvement in the nuclear fuel cycle.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: So I think that it is a missed opportunity for us,
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: and I know as a member of the Australian nuclear industry.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: It's stuff I want to be more involved in. And
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: hopefully in the future we can get Australia at the
• 29:38
  Speaker 9: WNE in Paris showing off our wares.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah hopefully.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Well then next time, thanks for joining us, Jasmine, I
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: appreciate it.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, back in Australia, we're.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: Building windmills to produce electricity and we're pretending that that's
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: cutting edge technology.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Jasmin, d ab there. We've got to get to a break.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to catch up with
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: clear Row. When the governments are actually trying to for
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: kids into childcare, Federal Health Minister Mark Butler is coppying
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a bit of flak after rubbishing plans to extend childcare
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: subsidies to grandparents.
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: Listen, our three year old love spending time with these grandparents.
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: All three year olds do, but it's not the same
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: as the learning experience you get from the local Goods
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: Start Center.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Child and adolescent psychologist Claire row Is written in the
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: News Court papers saying no, Minister, parents, not politicians, should
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: decide how to raise kids, So stop forcing families to
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: use childcare, give parents the funding directly and trust them
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: to decide what's best.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Claire Row joins me now live from Byron Bay. Good
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to catch up with you again, Claire.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: I just think there's so much sense in This might
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: be difficult to implement, but the maximum in parental choice
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: is what we need when it comes to childcare, isn't it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean it's just common sense. And I think
• 31:04
  Speaker 16: that we've built a system that punishes parents for wanting
• 31:09
  Speaker 16: to raise their own children. So, as you said, true
• 31:12
  Speaker 16: equality equals choice. I'm not anti childcare. I had both
• 31:16
  Speaker 16: of my two children in childcare, but I am pro
• 31:18
  Speaker 16: family choice. So the issue is that childcare exists. It's
• 31:23
  Speaker 16: that the government has made it the default position for families,
• 31:27
  Speaker 16: and really, in most families, the only affordable options. So
• 31:32
  Speaker 16: we've got billions of dollars going into subsidies that are
• 31:35
  Speaker 16: paid directly to childcare centers. But if you choose as
• 31:40
  Speaker 16: a parent to stay home with your child, and I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 16: talking about very young children here, before the age of
• 31:46
  Speaker 16: their first birthday, you get zero support, zero subsidies. So
• 31:51
  Speaker 16: I think that's ludicrous, and I think I will make
• 31:54
  Speaker 16: the distinction. As a developmental psychologist, I know that there
• 31:57
  Speaker 16: is benefit to children in that twelve months maybe eighteen
• 32:01
  Speaker 16: months before starting school to have a very structured program
• 32:05
  Speaker 16: to prepare them for school. But the science is really
• 32:09
  Speaker 16: clear in the first few years of life that children
• 32:13
  Speaker 16: need predictability, one on one care, secure attachment. They don't
• 32:19
  Speaker 16: need educators doing structured programs for them. So yeah, this
• 32:23
  Speaker 16: is one hundred percent about giving parents choice. They may
• 32:27
  Speaker 16: choose to use that subsidy with grandparents, with a nanny,
• 32:31
  Speaker 16: and they may choose to use it to help them
• 32:33
  Speaker 16: take a bit more time off work and stay at
• 32:35
  Speaker 16: home with their children.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: With all these all these choices are good, and all
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: these aspects are good. And you know, I dips alid
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: to childcare centers and childcare workers.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And certainly have used them with my children.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But I think that comparison we heard from Mark Butler
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: is really demeaning too. So in that all cases, the
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: childcare experience is going to be more beneficial to the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: child than time with grandparents and the like.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: We know that's not true. So often that one on
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: one care and.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Stimulation is exactly the best thing for children, isn't it.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 33:10
  Speaker 16: Absolutely, And I wrote that article, and I texted my
• 33:13
  Speaker 16: mother in law at the time and just said thank
• 33:15
  Speaker 16: you for those years that you did that, because my
• 33:17
  Speaker 16: children benefited so much from her care and I was
• 33:21
  Speaker 16: able to lucky enough able to do a bit of
• 33:23
  Speaker 16: a hybrid mix. I were in childcare a little bit.
• 33:26
  Speaker 16: They had days with Grandma, which was so beneficial for them.
• 33:30
  Speaker 16: Also beneficial for grandparents. You know, how wonderful for grandparents
• 33:34
  Speaker 16: to be able to spend that absolute you know, devoted
• 33:37
  Speaker 16: one on one time with them. My goodness, my children
• 33:40
  Speaker 16: were cooking and going out for you know, in the
• 33:43
  Speaker 16: community visits, and they were doing a lot more with
• 33:46
  Speaker 16: her than what I was doing with them at home.
• 33:48
  Speaker 16: They were learning a.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Lot, so so beneficial for.
• 33:51
  Speaker 16: Kids and their grandparents.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Now we haven't interrupted a holiday for you in Barron
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Bay there, Claire, just a little.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's a great spot.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, well, enjoy back to holiday and then, and thanks
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: for jumping in and having a.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Chat to us.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Claire Row, who's a child and aolescent psychologist writer, contributed
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to her on these programs. Always great to get her insights.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Speaking of insights, let's catch up.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: With Mark Robinson. Now you know he's the former host
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: of AFL three sixty, chief footy writer at the Herald.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Sun and he joins us each week to have a
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: chat about sport, and there's always plenty to talk about, Robo.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I want to start off with the Ashes this week and.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Jake weatherall at thirty one years of age, former South
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Australia now plays for Tasmania. He could be the man
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: in the box seat to open the batting in the Ashes.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah mate, Yeah, it looks like it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 17: He's as you just said, he averaged fifty last year
• 34:44
  Speaker 17: in the Sheffiel Cheer and he's a bit of a
• 34:46
  Speaker 17: splashbuckler and Australians love their splashbuckling batsman.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: He looks like he will open and.
• 34:54
  Speaker 17: Manas lamber Chane or coming in free, which means it
• 34:57
  Speaker 17: might be a toss up between bow Webster and Camp
• 35:00
  Speaker 17: for the final spot unless they pushed Manus to open
• 35:05
  Speaker 17: and they just put Weather. We're all in that Ashes
• 35:07
  Speaker 17: first Test squad as on an Opri cursor to something else,
• 35:11
  Speaker 17: but I think Australia would welcome Jake Weather. We're all
• 35:15
  Speaker 17: getting a getting a green cap.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we'd love to see someone battle through.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And cricket's one of those games where you often don't
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: actually reach your peak until around thirty years of age,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: it's not super old. Here's what the selected George Bailey
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: had to say about it.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: What's impressed me? Asked about Jake.
• 35:34
  Speaker 15: I think if you look at his performance over eighteen
• 35:38
  Speaker 15: twenty four months, it's been really solid. And then there's
• 35:41
  Speaker 15: a method there that I think is that we like
• 35:44
  Speaker 15: and his complimentary to those other players around him in
• 35:47
  Speaker 15: the squad.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: You know, scores at a good rate. Yeah.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: But the other side to this, Robbo, is that they're
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: saying that it's a pretty old squad all up. If
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Jake Weatherill plays, I think there's only one player younger
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: than thirty in the team.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've quite right there.
• 36:06
  Speaker 17: Lives changed a bit with their veteran cricketers. I mean
• 36:09
  Speaker 17: it started about late early nineties and mid nineties. The
• 36:12
  Speaker 17: players we're going on to thirty four, thirty five and
• 36:14
  Speaker 17: thirty six, and it seems like that survived for the
• 36:17
  Speaker 17: next thirty years.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: But I don't care.
• 36:21
  Speaker 17: I don't think we should care about how old the
• 36:24
  Speaker 17: players are. We just got to care that we play
• 36:28
  Speaker 17: the best cricketers and the cricketers are in formal Gil
• 36:31
  Speaker 17: Chris spoke about that this morning. He doesn't care about
• 36:35
  Speaker 17: the age of the Australians. He just wants to pick
• 36:37
  Speaker 17: the best, a valuable team to knock over these pesky palms.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, spot On, can't wait for it, cannot wait for it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: Just to go back to Melbourne Cup day. I've got
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to get your thoughts on Jamie Mellon. Look, what an
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: event for her to get the double, the second woman
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: now to win the Melbourne Cup. But every time you
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: see that overhead shot of the way she took that
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: horse half yours through those gaps, bustling up against the
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: other nags. One hell of a ride, wasn't it.
• 37:07
  Speaker 18: Oh it was.
• 37:08
  Speaker 17: It was glorious And the overhead shots in racing now
• 37:11
  Speaker 17: would really improved the coverage. And those gaps you're talking about,
• 37:15
  Speaker 17: there was half gaps there and the horse took them.
• 37:18
  Speaker 17: She's a great story, Jamie Mellen formerly Jamie Carr. She's
• 37:23
  Speaker 17: got a bit of devil in her. During the COVID time,
• 37:25
  Speaker 17: she got busted for having a party with a couple
• 37:27
  Speaker 17: of other jockeysn't got to spend it and everyone went, well,
• 37:31
  Speaker 17: that's love who wasn't having a party behind the political
• 37:35
  Speaker 17: landscape and next day but she's just a great story
• 37:38
  Speaker 17: and that's a great shot her with Michelle and to
• 37:43
  Speaker 17: do the double.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic. And Bellarat the horse was from Ballarat.
• 37:46
  Speaker 17: Half Yours and the Oaks, which was a race about
• 37:50
  Speaker 17: a half an hour ago at Flemington, was also won
• 37:53
  Speaker 17: by a horse called Strictly Business, but also from Ballarat.
• 37:55
  Speaker 17: So suddenly Bellarat's the capital of the horsing world and
• 38:00
  Speaker 17: Australia this point.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: That brought horses in from Japan and Germany and Europe
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: and America. But the horse from Ballarat gets it done.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: I love it just quickly. I know you're a fashion icon, Robo.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Have a look at these.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: These are the Olympic uniforms for the Winter Games happening
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: early next year out of Milan and Milam being a bit.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Of a fashion capital. They look like cricketers. To me,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: they'll be lost in the snow.
• 38:25
  Speaker 17: Oh you when you said it, I'm on a fashion person.
• 38:29
  Speaker 17: Well they look good, I mean, but they look like
• 38:31
  Speaker 17: they're going off to some business conference.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Snowboarders and skiers, aren't they. Yes, they're white jackets.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: They don't like goal umpires have days gone by, No
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: doubt they'll have a lot of fun. Thanks for joining us, Robbo.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: We'll catch you next week, Mark Robinson. There, we're going
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: to get to a break. After the break, we'll catch
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: out with Tim and Mark. We'll talk about lots of things,
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: including though Bob Catter's big day out.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: It's National Cabinet.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Time to wrap up the week with Tim Blair from
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  Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph and step Mate Studios. Mark Nicholson, gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad you're here to sort things out because the
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  Speaker 2: Liberal Party, the Coalition seems to be in one hell
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  Speaker 2: of a mess. What do you reckon they need to do? Mark,
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  Speaker 2: just get together and thrash it out. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: do that apparently on Wednesday next week.
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  Speaker 18: I'm sure they are. They're probably going to have another review,
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  Speaker 18: They're probably going to do something else.
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  Speaker 1: Mate, I am absolutely loving.
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  Speaker 18: It, to be honest, there's a part of me that's
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  Speaker 18: just I don't know where it isn't shouting floud, whatever
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  Speaker 18: it is. I'm just I'm loving every bit of it.
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  Speaker 18: I saw Dennis Shaahan talk about how they were in
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  Speaker 18: shambles the other day in question time, and it is
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  Speaker 18: it's an absolute clown show. Me. I'm okay, I've already
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  Speaker 18: moved out. I'm with one nation along with a bunch
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  Speaker 18: of other people are surging in. There's a nice, comfortable,
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  Speaker 18: warm place at one nation there for a conservative, you're
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  Speaker 18: not homeless, and as part of me that's just loving
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  Speaker 18: watching this all fall apart. But they've got to make
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  Speaker 18: a decision. They've got to do it. They've just got
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  Speaker 18: to bail on it. And I think history is going
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  Speaker 18: to look bad badly on anyone who was backing his
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  Speaker 18: net zero nonsense, and they might as well just have
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  Speaker 18: some conviction.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly now, Tim, I reckon, there's a big clue here, right.
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  Speaker 2: The big question is do they back net zero or not?
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  Speaker 2: And next week Parliament's not sitting, but they're flying everyone
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  Speaker 2: from all around the country on planes into camera to
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  Speaker 2: make the decision. Someone tells me they're not backing net zero.
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  Speaker 19: Well, the problem is we've got a whole history of
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  Speaker 19: people who are very much you know, activists on the
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  Speaker 19: net zero side, who will also.
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  Speaker 1: Fly around the gints all the time.
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  Speaker 19: Exactly might we might be misreading it entirely. They might
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  Speaker 19: be all in favor of new zero, and they love
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  Speaker 19: jets as well, so you know, they could get a
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  Speaker 19: front of the Leonardi Ye the moment.
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  Speaker 1: If they all come in on a private jet with
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  Speaker 1: Al Gore and Leonardo DiCaprio. We know that they are
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  Speaker 1: going to back ah Man just so on that.
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  Speaker 2: Talking last night about the billion dollars to host Cop
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  Speaker 2: thirty one in Adelaide, that's a lot of fun seeing
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  Speaker 2: all those private They might have to expand Adelaide Airport
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  Speaker 2: mark to fiddle the private jets in there for the
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  Speaker 2: Climate conference next year.
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  Speaker 18: Mate, I love it, and to be honest, I love it.
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  Speaker 18: That's the sort of thing I'm for. My lifetime dream.
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  Speaker 1: Is to fly in a private jet. That's all I
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  Speaker 1: ever want to do.
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  Speaker 18: I have no qualms about that. I'm very proud of
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  Speaker 18: those views, to be honest, So I don't blame him
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  Speaker 18: for wanting to fly around. It's just destroying the country
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  Speaker 18: and the interim that I've got a problem with.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Why don't we stay on these
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  Speaker 2: joy flights and talk about the latest episode in Shoppergate
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  Speaker 2: in Victoria with the Victorian Police commissioner and his wife.
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  Speaker 2: As it turns out, here's some reporting on sky earlier
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  Speaker 2: today on.
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  Speaker 20: June twenty eight, his wife was the one at the
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  Speaker 20: center of questions. The Victoria Police airwing took two senior
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  Speaker 20: New Zealand police officers on a flight. The Chief Commissioner
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  Speaker 20: was not on this flight, but his wife joined the
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  Speaker 20: pre arranged troop following an invitation. Flights lasted ten minutes.
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  Speaker 20: Just over a fortnight ago, it was revealed the police
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  Speaker 20: chief would use the air wing to flight to Tasmania
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  Speaker 20: for a conference rather than flying commercially.
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  Speaker 1: Georgie Dickinson there on the sky News.
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  Speaker 2: Earlier, Tim, what I love about this is right, for
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  Speaker 2: decades Australians have gone on holidays to New Zealand and
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  Speaker 2: taken chopper flights over the mountains.
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  Speaker 1: Now they got to New Zealand, they're running the Victorian
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  Speaker 1: police Force.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretting all its mates over and giving them chopper
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  Speaker 2: flights around Melbourne.
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  Speaker 19: What we need some of those some of those those
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  Speaker 19: boats they zoomed down the river boats may be fun
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  Speaker 19: watching in the era. I k like that. I'm kind
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  Speaker 19: of impressed by the fact that we've got something called
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  Speaker 19: Choppa Gate happening in Melbourne and it's nothing to do
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  Speaker 19: with machetes.
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  Speaker 1: That's kind of interesting. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll find out next next to you, you'll find
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  Speaker 2: out he took chop a red on a flight across
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  Speaker 2: to Geelong at some stage.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there's another story today. It relates to something Tim
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  Speaker 1: and I spoke.
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  Speaker 2: About earlier in the week, and that is Australia sleepwalking
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  Speaker 2: into danger with Chinese spying through electronic equipments with electric
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  Speaker 2: vehicles and home batteries and all the rest of it.
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  Speaker 2: This is another aspect of the cyber boss are warning
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  Speaker 2: us about this. And I don't know whether you saw this,
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  Speaker 2: markt and viewers might have if they weren't watching on
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday night. I've got to show them a little reprise
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  Speaker 2: here of Tim Blair at the Electric Vehicle Motor Show
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  Speaker 2: they call it the Motor Show, the Electric Vehicle Show
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  Speaker 2: earlier in the week and Tim uncovered something that Asio admissed.
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  Speaker 1: Have a look.
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  Speaker 19: If you're a Chinese vehicle manufacturer. One issue of great
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  Speaker 19: concern allegations of spy wear. Are you somehow hiding spy
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  Speaker 19: technology in your Chinese vehicle? Well, the way they get
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  Speaker 19: around this is by being very clever and not giving
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  Speaker 19: any hints about spying or anything spy related.
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  Speaker 1: The bottom.
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  Speaker 2: Mark with the double O seven have raised your suspicions.
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  Speaker 18: No, no, to be honest with The article was written
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  Speaker 18: as sleepwalking into danger. Honestly, mate, we're skipping into it.
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  Speaker 18: Our government's known about.
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  Speaker 1: It for years.
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  Speaker 18: It's written in the law that these companies are mandated.
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  Speaker 18: These Chinese companies are mandated to collect data and share
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  Speaker 18: it with the CCP.
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  Speaker 1: That's written down. That's the law.
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  Speaker 18: That's where this is the sort of stuff that we
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  Speaker 18: used to get, you know, complaints about for calling us
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  Speaker 18: cookers and conspiracy theories and go on, Chris, chuck the
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  Speaker 18: tinfoil back on, mate. It's there now.
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  Speaker 1: It's plain and simple.
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  Speaker 18: They're openly admitting that they're putting double oh seven of the.
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  Speaker 1: Cars and it's ridiculous. And we're also sleepwalking.
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  Speaker 18: We're marching into dependency thanks to net zero as well.
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  Speaker 18: Ninety percent of the solar panels in this country which
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  Speaker 18: are listening to us are Chinese. Made all the batteries
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  Speaker 18: of bombs, all the cars. I counted them on the
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  Speaker 18: way here. There's hundreds of them in Melbourne. It's mental.
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  Speaker 18: We are dependent on this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And Tim, I don't want to alarm you, but since
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  Speaker 2: you exposed that spy where ruse at the EV show,
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  Speaker 2: the Chinese embassy has announced it's opening a consulate in Horsham.
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  Speaker 19: No no, no, no, no, no, I don't live here.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, my mistake. We crossed the tim each week
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  Speaker 2: in the data different area.
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  Speaker 19: I would like to put it as well that I
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  Speaker 19: was assured at the EV show that the Chinese ehicles
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  Speaker 19: aren't spying on us. But I know, maybe take it
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  Speaker 19: with a grain of salt, because that actually came from
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  Speaker 19: one of the cars.
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  Speaker 2: As you open the door in an American accent. You're
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  Speaker 2: not being inspired upon. Now let's go down to Canberra
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  Speaker 2: and have a look beyond the politics.
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  Speaker 1: Today there was an event that was rather special.
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  Speaker 2: A bloke who's been in state and federal politics for
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  Speaker 2: fifth years had his portrait.
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  Speaker 1: Hung in the in one of the main halls. There,
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  Speaker 1: have a look at this. You're running for the Senate
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  Speaker 1: the first time one hundred years ago.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, I was trying to if you had to leave
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  Speaker 19: him the National Party. That's probably why lad.
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  Speaker 2: A good job here, extraordinary stuff, Bob Katter. There his
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  Speaker 2: portrait there's going to.
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  Speaker 1: Be hung in the nation's parliament.
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  Speaker 2: Now, most people to get that honor, you've got to
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  Speaker 2: be a speaker or a President of the Senate or
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  Speaker 2: a Prime minister. Bob Katter Mark against the portrait. I
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  Speaker 2: think just for hanging around so long, mate.
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  Speaker 18: He is an extraordinary man. Fifty years in public office.
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  Speaker 18: He's honestly, it's it's it's unfathomable that he was able
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  Speaker 18: to do and he still holds like something like a
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  Speaker 18: ninety percent approval rate. The bloke is an absolute beast
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  Speaker 18: of a man and easily the funniest person that's ever
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  Speaker 18: sat in Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: He deserves a portrait.
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  Speaker 18: In all honesty, I think he actually deserves something even
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  Speaker 18: more special and unique.
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  Speaker 1: Just like he is.
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  Speaker 18: To be honest, I would have preferred like a statue
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  Speaker 18: that spoke to you, or like a bass you know
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  Speaker 18: those singing bass that every time you walk past it
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  Speaker 18: and just went like, don't say that, punch in the
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  Speaker 18: mouth someone that. It would have been really nice to
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  Speaker 18: get a cateterism in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great portrait Tim, but there's no hat in it.
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  Speaker 2: Surely he needed to at least be holding his hat.
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  Speaker 19: Maybe maybe the hat's a separate exhibit. They could just
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  Speaker 19: have a hat dealing on or something. But I just
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  Speaker 19: love the fact that he spent fifty years in parliament
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  Speaker 19: and I think every Australian journalist who's interviewed. Bob feels
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  Speaker 19: like if he goes for about that long as well,
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  Speaker 19: he doesn't shut up.
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  Speaker 1: He does keep talking, so yeah, and.
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  Speaker 19: Into his all the fIF decade on the chat alone.
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  Speaker 2: And he never he's a wonderful man, as you say,
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  Speaker 2: but he never finishes one sentence without including another bit
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  Speaker 2: from another sentence. And here's I think the best example.
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  Speaker 2: Let's ever look at this one.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be you know, people are entitled to the sexual proclimities.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, let there be a thousand blossoms bloom off concern.
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  Speaker 2: But I ain't spending any time warrant because in the meantime,
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  Speaker 2: every three months.
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  Speaker 17: A person has torn to pieces by a crocodile in
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  Speaker 17: North Queensland.
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  Speaker 2: It remains the greatest crab in Australian political history.
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  Speaker 1: Mark is.
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  Speaker 18: And it should be immortalized in Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good.
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  Speaker 18: It should be there on display. It should be a
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  Speaker 18: moving digital image on there forever. It's the greatest piece
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  Speaker 18: of footage that's ever been captured.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good, it's so good. It is so good.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for joining us, guys. Nice and that
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  Speaker 2: he said that the week's programming on a high. Tim
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  Speaker 2: Blair and Martin Nicholson. There just a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: time for some of your feedback. Now we've probably run
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  Speaker 2: right out of time. There we go, ten billion dollars,
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  Speaker 2: one billion dollars. Sorry for the Cop thirty one next year.
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  Speaker 2: We need to hold the politicians responsible. Yeah, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of your feedback agreeing with me that a billion dollars
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  Speaker 2: for this cop talk fest is an absolute shocker.
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  Speaker 1: Have a good weekend. Here's Peter Quidlin.