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Reclaiming Strength: When Softness Meets Power AUDIO VERSION · Eye Opener Society

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Eye Opener Society. Welcome back again.
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Thank you for sitting down and joining us. This space is for you.
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We appreciate you being here.
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I'd like to jump into this episode, but before I do, there is something I want to say.
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Excuse me. I don't know all day long. My voice was fine as soon as I hit record.
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It's messed up. But I wanted to give a shout out to Appalachian Rootworks.
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If you go back to the Appalachian Rootworks episode that I did Just look for their logo.
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Carly and Carla, two beautiful, wonderful people And I wanted to talk about
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them Because I'm going to be heading back down to Kentucky
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I'm going to be there with my wife And there's going to be another festival
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And it slips my mind the name of it But it's for October and Halloween And we
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just want to be a part of that And I know Appalachian Rootworks handles a lot
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of these things And they put in so much work with it But Carly and Carla have
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their own podcast called Without a Candle They can be found on Podbean,
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As can we, we are found on Podbean And I wanted to let everyone know that there's
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going to be something new I'm going to be trying out with Podbean And I'm going
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to be discussing it with Lizzie once we get off of here.
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And it's just a new thing I know 41% of our audience is from Podbean And I just
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want to give a little extra for those people that are following us on Podbean
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But Appalachian Rootworks, give them a follow,
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Visit them if you are in Kentucky Visit their shop and listen to their podcast
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without a candle And speaking of Lizzie, Lizzie's here with me Lizzie,
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it's great to have you here We were so wrapped up in our conversation That I
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totally forgot to add that other thing in there But we could get back with that
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after recording But Lizzie,
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I've been discussing with you How aggravated I've been,
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With a couple of things Not so much aggravated But just taking
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my life back Now I'll explain it again real quick For the audience You know
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four years ago So I was touched more by the spiritual energy And that spiritual
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energy Giving me a whole new outlook on life And where I'm walking more of a
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spiritual path And I'm trying to help people to do that as well.
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But I want people to understand something Walking that spiritual journey It
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doesn't mean you've got to give up your personality.
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It doesn't mean that you've got to give up, you know, things you believe in.
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Just recently, I was supposed to be moving into a new place.
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Again, with my stepdaughter Hannah and all to bring back the real eye-opener
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society, having a permanent studio.
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But we were blocked because the lease was 44 pages long.
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Okay, that's 44 pages of vagueness, 44 pages of stupidity. Things I couldn't
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You couldn't even Badmouth the realtor company And that's literally What you were signing So,
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But I took on my old personality. I called them up and I was like,
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nope, it ain't happening.
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Not signing this lease. And they were like, oh, why? I was like,
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well, because I'm not sitting there giving up all of my rights as a human being.
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Not giving up, you know, full power for you to sue me, but I can't sue you.
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Not doing it. I don't care. No matter how bad it was, I would have needed a place. Not doing it.
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And this is what people need to realize. You need to be stronger in life.
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And I started taking back A lot more of my older persona And not to be a dick
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Not to be an asshole But to be
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stronger And I think people need to be stronger In this, you know, world.
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Because otherwise you're going to be walked all over And I don't care what kind
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of spiritual path you're on What kind of energy work you're doing,
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You shouldn't be walked on You need to have that positive energy You need to
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be uplifted and you need to be motivated,
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but you've got to start taking responsibility for yourself as well.
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So Lizzie, I know we spoke and I know you have your perspectives on it and I
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totally recognize them and I
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respect them as well. So tell me a little bit about what you're thinking.
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Okay. We touched on so many thoughts here. Let's see if I can pull them all together.
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The first one I want to say is spiritual journey is such a unique journey for
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each individual person because wherever you are is not where you're going to end up.
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And wherever you think you're going is usually not where you want to go.
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And so in your spiritual journey, especially in the beginning,
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you're in this phase of like just shedding all these layers of like false identities,
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things you think that are you, but you're not. And as you.
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Let things go and kind of shift and try to see what is left,
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people have a tendency to go too far the other way.
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And I say too far, but it's not really, it's kind of just like the pendulum
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swings from one side to the next.
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If you start off really harsh with great boundaries, you tend to get too soft
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before you come back to a good balance.
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If you start off too soft and overgiving, you tend to come over kind of like
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an asshole and then you come back into the middle.
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And so in your spiritual journey is just yeah
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you can't you've got to soften yourself to
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yourself your own needs people around you
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you know building compassion but that does not
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ever take away from your right to
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be a sovereign being in of yourself and to
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stand up for yourself even in softness where the line is between soft and fierce
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i don't know um i'll figure that one out sometime but there's a line there that
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I think we're all aiming to get because that's where peace and unity comes is
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somewhere between soft and fierce. Somehow they're the same.
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Well, okay. I think I'm going to end the conversation here. Wow.
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I was not expecting that. Lizzie, it's amazing.
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This is why I work with you though. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
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I really did. You brought a lot of that into perspective.
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So let's discuss something else that I was also talking about.
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It's when we work with other people, all right, and I realized where my interpretation
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was trying to go, and you fixed that too as well.
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We need to work with people that we can actually work with. Whether you're doing
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your energy work, whether I'm doing meditation.
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And I'm going to use my end just because I get this all the time.
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It's, I want to meditate.
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Oh, I have to meditate. I'm so interested in meditation. Can you help me? I need to do this.
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And then you work with them and they don't do shit.
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Honestly, they don't do anything. And it's just, then what it is,
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it becomes, this is just something you're interested in.
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You want to hear about it. you want to learn about it, you want to talk about
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it, you're not going to do it.
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So I need to work with the people who are actual doers, people that are actually
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going to take what I'm teaching them and actually apply it to their life and actually do it.
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And I'm not, you know, telling people, give me results immediately, but you have to start.
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There's a beginning. But if you're not even going to pick up like that pencil to take a note,
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Then I can't work with you And I've said it so many times On many podcasts I
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can only work with people You know That I'm going to mesh with But at the same
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time What I always said If you cannot work with me You don't have to work with me.
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Find other people And see who it is That you mesh and blend with Maybe that's
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where the issue is Maybe it's just the teacher That you're not comfortable with,
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But a lot of times too No matter you could work With 25 different people If
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you're not doing anything Then you are a waste of time And that's where I was
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trying to get And it sounds so harsh So cold But at some point People need to
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hear that You know And like to move forward,
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For sure. I totally agree with you. I didn't share this part with you,
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but as a massage therapist, I completely understand with this one.
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I guess this is a good example because it's more physical. You can really picture it.
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You'll have somebody come in and they're like, my shoulder hurts.
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I'm getting all these headaches.
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It's ruining my quality of life. And you get them on the table and you massage them out.
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And then you're like, oh, well, your pec is really far forward.
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It's throwing off your whole system.
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That's why you're getting headaches up by your eye. So let's just fix this a little bit.
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It looks like you need to do some rebalancing.
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Come back next month, do these exercises in between, and then we'll see where we're at.
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Well, next month comes along and guess what? They did none of the exercises.
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They did all of the same lifestyle things.
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They didn't even raise their arm above their head like I told them to.
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And now they want me to still be able to fix it in this session like I thought I could.
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Well, I can't. So now we're doing the same thing we did last time.
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I give you the stretches. You go home. now you're confused
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why it's been three months now and you have the same issue
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well because this all
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of it whether spiritual or physical is all patterning
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and so it's the patterning you do every day and
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so yeah it is really hard to take that piece of information that cool tool and
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actually pattern it into your life but that's the only way it's going to make
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a difference otherwise you're going to tune in to your massage or your reiki
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session once a month and have an hour of peace and then wonder the rest of the
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29 days why everything sucks.
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But it's because 29 days, you still have the pattern of whatever it is that
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you are doing. It's got to be integrated into the whole thing.
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Yes. And this is what I was just trying to express. Yes.
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Everybody has their responsibility
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in fixing whatever it is
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they want to fix everybody whether it's the
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massage therapist the reiki master meditation whatever that may be we have our
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say in it we have our you know our script in that but the person that is being
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worked on they have 100 of the responsibility of making it all work um,
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I can literally, like, there's times I sit and I say, okay, this is what's going
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on in my life. Man, one of two things.
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I keep letting it go on and complain about it every single day.
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And what is it doing? It's doing nothing. It's making it worse, right?
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Or I can say, okay, what's causing the problem? Figure out what's causing the
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problem. Okay, how do I eliminate that?
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Figure out how to eliminate that. Now that's up to me to actually eliminate it.
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Or I could just sit in my scene, redundant, over and over.
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This is what's bothering me. No, it's time. People, I have to sometimes feel,
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and everybody works different, I feel I should be a little bit stronger by saying,
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you really need to make a change, then you need to make that change.
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That's not going to be up to the people that are helping you.
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They're only helping, but it's up to you to actually do it.
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Someone standing up Well standing up is what's the problem You need to sit down
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And if you continue standing up,
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What can I tell you Now I'm going to finally tell you You need to sit down If
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you don't then I'm no longer working with you This is where Like I said I don't
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want to be cruel Mean vicious or anything like that But I do believe That we need to make some sort of,
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Difference in a person's life And even if that means telling them exactly what it's like.
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Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with you because, you know, we don't do this for
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the money. We do this because we're excited to help people.
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And so when people come in, even if you're going to give us your money,
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if you're not doing stuff at home, it feels like a waste of time.
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It feels like a waste of your money. It feels like a waste of my mental space.
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And so, yeah, I don't really want to work with you as much if you want me to
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just fix you once a month.
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But if you want to put in the effort, I'm going to put in like so much effort.
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We're going to figure out what it is.
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And I think a lot of that, um.
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Just depends on the person and exactly what you need.
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If you are like swinging back and forth between soft or fierce or all these
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different, because it almost kind of feels like a symphony of notes.
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You're supposed to figure out how to harmonize within yourself, right?
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But what is that if your harmony is different than another person?
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So if you can work with different people and everybody's going to give you a
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little bit of a different note.
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Somebody who's used to being too soft probably need
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somebody to call them on their shit you
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know what I mean and that should be a little harsh when you
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know who you're speaking to and what kind of
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note they bring that then you know when and
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why to go to them whereas somebody who you know maybe is used to being a little
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bit more harsh and is trying to soften they need a perspective of a little bit
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softer and so that's why I always encourage people to work with like a lot of
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people and kind of change it throughout like you shouldn't be getting all yourself
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from one person because you're not trying to like tune to one person.
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And when you're sharing messages, you should also share it authentic to you
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because that's how you needed to hear it.
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And so that's how somebody else needed to hear it too.
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Yeah. And while it's still in my mind, when you started talking about that,
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you mentioned something about being paid and the money aspect.
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And that's a big difference because I don't work for money. Um,
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I can set up things, you know, if, you know, you wanted a session and if I set
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something up and I'm having you pay me at that point, you know what?
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You're throwing your money away if you're not following the process.
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But now, like I I'm working with someone right now and there's zero money involved
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in this. I'm just working. And you're right.
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Now I'm giving you 100% of my time and attention.
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That is more, you know, that's worse than, you know, just if you're paying me
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for it, it's fine. But if I'm doing it freely.
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This is what really sticks. That's a sticking point. Am I helping you or not?
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Because if I'm not, there's much better things I can actually go and do.
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I can actually maybe work with people that are going to, you know,
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need my services or whatever that case may be.
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So you did bring up a good point with that. There is a big difference between,
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yeah, paying and not. Because, yeah, if you're paying, I'll do whatever it is.
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Because it's your money. I'm not going to worry about it at that point.
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Now you're paying me for my time. But if my time is being freely given to you,
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then, yeah, it becomes more of a my decision at that point.
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And I agree with you. You're right.
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If somebody is paying for something, you know, you should just like,
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in a sense, be happy to do it.
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But I think that maybe just matching that a little bit like,
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OK, if somebody is going to come in for an hour of energy work and they come
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in and they've they've journaled and they've they've figured some things out
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and they've had like a good cry and they've gone on a walk and here's all the
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things that they've like thought about.
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You know, I might take time the next time before their session to really like
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pull together a lot of things that's like, so I'm ready to give them everything
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they're ready to take from that hour session.
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But if somebody comes up to the session, and they're like, Oh,
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yeah, I pondered what we talked about last time, what what exercise was it that I was supposed to do?
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I'm not going to take that extra time. Because truthfully, as an energy worker,
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and with meditation and all of this.
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It is a lot more than just that hour that you spend with them.
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You have to mentally prepare.
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You have to pull yourself together in a way where you can set space for somebody.
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And so when they take that hour of time, whether they pay or not,
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it's really like a lot more than just that hour.
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And so, yes, you know, if you pay, OK, I'll be happily to do all of the things
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that I have listed out for you in the service.
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But maybe maybe my issue is
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that i'm just an over giver and i just would give too much to people who aren't
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you know not being a loser about it yes and but listen that's a good point though
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if you're a free giver like that you wind up draining so much of your energy too,
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and that's why i always feel if i'm going to give that much energy to anybody
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that person should be using it to better themselves.
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Yeah. Or the community or it's got to be going out. You don't want to be pouring into an empty pit.
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It's got to be going somewhere. You know what I mean? Coming back,
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going out into the community, wherever it is, it's just got to be going somewhere.
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That's the whole point, right?
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Yes. And you know what? I could leave it right there because you're so right.
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It needs to go somewhere.
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It needs to actually physically happen. And if it's not, It's not,
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it's a waste of time I like that I set up a Wednesday night meditation Depending
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when you're listening to this episode Where I guided you through this exact
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thing It was a guided meditation Based on becoming more positive,
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more energetic, and not allowing things to stand in your way.
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And this is the whole reason for the topic.
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So it's a generalized meditation, so it's basically there for everybody.
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But if you want to tune into something more personal, reach out to me.
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Eosmeditation at gmail.com. And if you wanted to work with Lizzie, you do the same thing.
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And Lizzie, the other thing I just did, surprisingly, it took me a long time,
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but I actually got on your sub stack.
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Saw that. I saw you subscribe. kind
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of funny i haven't been doing a whole lot on there
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because i keep swapping what i want to
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be doing but i swear i swear i finally think i know what i'm doing on there
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so yeah it'll be exciting to see you know yeah for sure but i like that i like
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you know when you tell me how much you enjoy writing i could see i could see
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that in your sub stack and everything
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that you put together and laid out because you're spelling it out.
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It's very easy to sit and talk to you and you're talking about it.
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But it's got to be tremendously difficult to actually write out word for word all of that energy work.
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It is because for a long time, my brain has been trying, like we were talking
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about how each person is different.
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One person will be a little bit more firm. One person will be soft and you need
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different things in different moments.
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And I've tried so hard to say exactly the right thing that can just vaguely
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cover what everybody needs to hear.
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And it just doesn't fucking work that way. And so then I switched tactics to
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trying to say it just how I would need to hear it.
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And so that's been a lot of fun. But then you know how I needed to hear it in
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circles, because this is very entangled mesh of information.
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And if you try to spell it out, You lose all of the meaning and all of the way it's connected.
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And so I've learned to not really edit my stuff and to just kind of write it
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how I would just speak it right in that time.
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And then that just seems to be the best way to do it for me in this moment, I guess.
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Yeah, and I like it. It's energy.bylizzi, and that's on Substack.
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I got a link actually up on Facebook, too, for it. Uh, so, and I'll make sure
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a link is down in, uh, the son, the synopsis for this episode.
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Check it out. It's, it's actually really good. Like I say, it took Lizzie probably
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a lot of time, a long time to write that out, spell it out and get it out there.
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But it's really interesting to see I'm, I'm caught up in Lizzie's world just
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because she is a co-host and she is a friend of mine and just, you know, anything.
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And to be quite honest, to simplify it though, the other day you sent me a text.
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Random. So about, you know, how you appreciate me and glad I just, but.
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Boom, my heart melted, you know, just melted. Because, you know,
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my wife is exactly like that.
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She loves doing little things like that for people. Now I'm seeing why she's
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doing it when something like that, you know, happens just so randomly.
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So that catches me up in your energy work, everything that you do.
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Every time you speak, I learn something new from that.
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So that's basically what the sub stack is get get
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inside it lizzie's energy go just visit you
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know watch me learn out loud and see if
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i can embarrass myself without blushing right there
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you go it's but it's fun it really is it makes for a fun learning environment
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and but you're actually learning something from it too so i would say just work
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with lizzie it's really it is it's a lot of fun getting jammed up in her energy
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it really is and there's so much of it and the chaos has really even itself out.
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I've noticed, you know, it's, it's more, um, like a chaotic field of flowers
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versus like something being demolished, I think.
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So poetic, man. I love it.
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Yeah. I appreciate it though. I appreciate what you're doing.
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Um, your work alone is really something amazing.
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And we always kind of do this it's our style to
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do the podcast now we sit before the podcast
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and have this whole energy session to work out and
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then we are so tied up in it we hit record and boom there we go we got a show
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so it's a good way to see life to learn about yourself uh there's a lot of things
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that you focus on that i'm i i don't have much knowledge of so go visit energy.by.lizzy,
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Substack, I'll have the links down there.
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And don't forget We'll be changing up a few things too I'm going to be discussing
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that So if you are on Podbean, remember You get the video version now on Podbean
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If you're not on Podbean And would like to look at our beautiful faces Go to
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BitChute or YouTube We are on both of those platforms As well for the video
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But Podbean now also allows me To do the video,
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actually it allowed me to do it for a long time And I only learned about it,
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so there That's my problem,
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But you will see the video But we'll also have the audio version too as well
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In case you're driving in the car And you shouldn't be watching TV So you will
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also still have the audio version on both Lizzie,
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I want to thank you As always for being a friend For being a co-host For being
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a wonderful member of this entire community And also just for being a wonderful human being,
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Thank you very much And I thank you for being as much of a teacher As you are
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a student With everything that we do together that I definitely benefit very
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greatly from what you have to offer.
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I appreciate that very much. And again, anybody that wants to work with either
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me or Lizzie, reach out to us, eosmeditation at gmail.com, and we will see you soon.