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Hank Sheinkopf | Offers Insight Into Brad Lander's Faceoff with Anti-Israel Protesters · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: The congressional candidate, Brad Lander, who hasn't had an issue
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  Speaker 1: that he can sell his people out fast enough on,
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  Speaker 1: accusing Israel of genocide falsely, showing up at an Islamist
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  Speaker 1: mosque where they call for killing of the infidels, nominating
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  Speaker 1: Zohran Mamdani, just bowing down. He can't give up and
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  Speaker 1: sell his own people out fast enough. That's Brad Lander. Well,
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  Speaker 1: here's what happened to him. on Saturday when he showed
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  Speaker 1: up at a protest outside of Madison Square Garden. It
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  Speaker 1: was a bunch of these Democrat socialists protesting a Hindu
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  Speaker 1: nationalist party leader giving a rally inside MSG. And here's
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  Speaker 1: how warmly he was greeted by his so-called people. These
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  Speaker 1: protesters got in his face. He's standing there like a schmo,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do. He's probably thinking, but I
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  Speaker 1: bowed down to you. I bowed down to you. Hank
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  Speaker 1: Sheinkopf joins us now. Hank, should this not be a
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  Speaker 1: lesson to all of the Democrats out there who are
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  Speaker 1: kowtowing to this far left? Not only is it embarrassing,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not going to work. They're never going to
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  Speaker 1: accept this guy, are they?
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, and it's an important question, they're
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  Speaker 2: never going to accept him. They're never going to accept
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  Speaker 2: the liberals. That's not what they do. They want a
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  Speaker 2: revolution that has nothing to do with the people that
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  Speaker 2: go along with them. And the people that are doing this,
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  Speaker 2: like Brad Landon, that fool, have no understanding of history.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at these kinds of revolutions where you've
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  Speaker 2: had the socialists or the right wing take over governments,
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  Speaker 2: the first line of defense is to kill the supporters
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  Speaker 2: that came on, the people that are on their knees
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  Speaker 2: and kissing the part of the anatomy they shouldn't be kissing.
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  Speaker 1: And why would you trust someone? Now, let's say that
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  Speaker 1: they're even a little less radical and more calculating. Why
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  Speaker 1: would you trust someone who has clearly sold out his
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  Speaker 1: own community and To me, that's not someone I want
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  Speaker 1: to have on my team anyway, because they've made it
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  Speaker 1: clear that they'll sell anything out at any time. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: why don't these people understand that it's not just a
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  Speaker 1: knowledge of history, which you're very correct about, Hank Shonkoff,
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  Speaker 1: but it's also human nature. I don't want somebody like
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  Speaker 1: this on my team who's willing to sell out his
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  Speaker 1: own people like that. I mean, it's not like nothing
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  Speaker 1: is happening anymore. You have Jews being accosted all over
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  Speaker 1: the country, all over the world. It's not like this
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  Speaker 1: is a good time to go sell out your people.
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  Speaker 1: And this is when you choose to join the other side.
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  Speaker 1: Why would you put somebody like that on your team?
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't Brad Lander understand that? Is he that stupid or
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  Speaker 1: is he that morally decrepit?
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  Speaker 2: He's both stupid and morally decrepit. He's a double argument.
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  Speaker 2: The basic argument is I'm not like them. I'm different
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  Speaker 2: than them. You know, that's the great liberal argument. I'm
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  Speaker 2: really not like those people. You know, if you say
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  Speaker 2: to great Brad Landon, you say, let's build a jail
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  Speaker 2: on 3rd Street and 7th Avenue and Park Slope, he'd
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  Speaker 2: look at you and say, how dare you say such
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  Speaker 2: a thing? Because that means they're going to put the
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  Speaker 2: jail in Harlem or in a black neighborhood or a
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  Speaker 2: Latino neighborhood where people are just going through miserable times
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  Speaker 2: every day because he believes he is the great man
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  Speaker 2: to protect the people and to bring those who are
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  Speaker 2: on the outside together together. Even if they want to
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  Speaker 2: kill you. Because he doesn't believe they really want to
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  Speaker 2: kill you. See, that's the great stupidity. They wanted to
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  Speaker 2: kill him yesterday. Excuse me, on the day that this happened.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't care whether he was a liberal. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: care whether he had said that Israel was engaging in genocide,
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  Speaker 2: which is among the great lies of the 21st century,
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  Speaker 2: which is absolutely untrue. But he believes that if he
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  Speaker 2: says these things, they will love him so much. They
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  Speaker 2: will love him right into a firing squad. That's what
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  Speaker 2: he fails to understand.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how could you not understand it? Hey, Hank, it's Michael.
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  Speaker 3: How could you not understand it when the people that
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  Speaker 3: you are going to speak in front of are booing
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  Speaker 3: you into oblivion?
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  Speaker 2: Because the liberal mind doesn't believe that they're really doing that,
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  Speaker 2: that if only we will sit down and have a meeting.
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  Speaker 2: They all understand, you know, if only we could sit
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  Speaker 2: down with Idi Amin, it would have been fine. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he would have really not wanted to kill all of us.
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  Speaker 2: You know, he's a great man. If only we could
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  Speaker 2: sit down with Hitler, he would understand. Not a bad guy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Stalin, not so bad. Franco, who knows? You know,
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  Speaker 2: and Mao, 30 million people later, he really wanted to
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  Speaker 2: sit with us and have a discussion. That's a complete nonsense.
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  Speaker 2: The refusal to understand who the enemy is and to
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  Speaker 2: understand what could happen to this country if this continues
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  Speaker 2: is the most astounding thing imaginable. And it's happening, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's happening more so because they're looking for a haven
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  Speaker 2: which doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: Hank Sheinkopf, I have to ask you, it seems to
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  Speaker 1: me that there are so many Democrats that don't take
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  Speaker 1: the inside track to better poll numbers. And to me,
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  Speaker 1: this has been the question I've had about Kathy Hochul
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  Speaker 1: since the day she became governor. If she had decided to,
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  Speaker 1: for example, reverse Andrew Cuomo's no cash bail policy, there
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  Speaker 1: would have been no I don't believe there would have
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  Speaker 1: been any political price that she would have had to
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  Speaker 1: pay for it. And she would her poll numbers would
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  Speaker 1: have shot through the roof. Why is she doing what
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  Speaker 1: she's doing now, going up against ICE completely without saying
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  Speaker 1: what we've been saying here in the studio all morning?
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  Speaker 1: Why not come out and say, look. We want to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that ICE focuses on the terrible criminals.
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with that law.
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  Speaker 4: All she has to say is if there are major
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  Speaker 4: criminals or the criminals, you know, rape, drugs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: killing people. Get them hell out of the United States. But,
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  Speaker 4: you know, I could understand saying and making a law
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  Speaker 4: not to deport the lawnmower guys or the bartenders or
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  Speaker 4: the busboys, etc. Well, what do you think, Hank?
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, John, first of all, good morning. Look, it's
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  Speaker 2: really simple. This is a world run by polling data.
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  Speaker 2: So the polling data, which has been faulty for her
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  Speaker 2: in the past, by the way. She nearly lost the
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  Speaker 2: race four years ago. Faulty polling data, probably. Polling data
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  Speaker 2: says ICE is bad among most likely voters. Therefore, among
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  Speaker 2: most likely Democrats, there are more of them in New
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  Speaker 2: York State than Republicans. Therefore, ICE is very bad. If
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  Speaker 2: you move further away from ICE and you can condemn ICE,
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  Speaker 2: then you take on Trump, who's underwater right now in
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  Speaker 2: New York State polls. It's a two-first. You win the argument.
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  Speaker 2: Do you really win the argument? The answer is no.
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  Speaker 2: If Bruce Flakeman comes up with a rational policy about
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  Speaker 2: a new road to citizenship for people who've lived here,
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  Speaker 2: worked here, raised families, and are not criminals and really
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  Speaker 2: want to make America work, then he wins the argument.
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  Speaker 2: But holding ICE itself, you know, she's found something that
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  Speaker 2: works and that people tend to, the Lander people that
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  Speaker 2: she really needs will tend to vote for her with
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  Speaker 2: greater intensity, period. It's not about good or bad. It's
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  Speaker 2: about winning elections. The political industrial complex has taken over
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  Speaker 2: our discourse. And so long as that continues, we will
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  Speaker 2: be a nation without any real long-term values or concerns
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  Speaker 2: or ethics.
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  Speaker 1: Hank, I got to ask you a question. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats are really missing the boat on something. I
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  Speaker 1: believe that that Supreme Court decision earlier this year, striking
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  Speaker 1: down race as a criteria to draw up a congressional district,
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  Speaker 1: is actually the most liberating thing for black voters since
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  Speaker 1: at least the 1964 Civil Rights Act and maybe even Reconstruction.
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  Speaker 1: Why do I say that, Hank? Because millions of black
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  Speaker 1: voters have now been liberated from feudal congressional districts where
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  Speaker 1: their votes were a foregone conclusion. And now they are
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  Speaker 1: swing voters, which is what you want to be in America.
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  Speaker 1: You want to be a swing voter. We've already seen
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  Speaker 1: the data in the Tennessee primaries where black voters voted
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  Speaker 1: a lot more.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because they're now actually in the game. They're in the
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  Speaker 1: game for something in districts where their votes matter. Aren't
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats, by protesting this, instead of taking advantage of
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  Speaker 1: it and saying, hey, now you're voting in these swing elections.
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  Speaker 1: To me, this is a tremendous fail on their part.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it might be. I mean, I think it's an
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  Speaker 2: important question. The data, if you look at the political
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  Speaker 2: science journals, which, you know, since the PhD, for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at the political science journals, what you'll
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  Speaker 2: find is there's historical trends since the Kennedy administration, since Obama.
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  Speaker 2: Since the sense that John Kennedy and his brother were
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  Speaker 2: were advocates for Martin Luther King when he was imprisoned
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  Speaker 2: in the Birmingham jail. If you look at the data,
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  Speaker 2: what you find is that the queuing device in the
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  Speaker 2: voting booth or voters generally, whether it's not in the
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  Speaker 2: booth or on a piece of paper for voting patterns
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  Speaker 2: by blacks, African-Americans in this country, has been the Democrat line.
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  Speaker 2: It's not anything else. It's not even candidates. So, you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's an argument for Democrats to make that there's a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a, which they can take advantage of, there's
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  Speaker 2: a dislocation by voters against voters that was not necessary.
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  Speaker 2: Is it liberating? Well, you say that today. People aren't
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  Speaker 2: likely to feel it. The polling data will show that
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  Speaker 2: it's not liberating right now and maybe in the future.
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  Speaker 2: And that's really the answer to your question.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that when you're in a feudal district,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people were equating those districts as, some
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  Speaker 1: kind of a plantation. I don't like using that kind
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  Speaker 1: of slavery terminology, but it's more like feudalism. These, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Hakeem Jeffries of the world, they never have to
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  Speaker 1: do a good job. They're going to get reelected. And
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  Speaker 1: that to me is basically political imprisonment.
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  Speaker 3: Well, until, right, Hank, until you start to get in
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  Speaker 3: front of somebody like an AOC or now a Mamdani
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  Speaker 3: and they turn around and they say, we're not voting
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  Speaker 3: for you as Speaker. And finally, Hakeem Jeffries realizes that
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  Speaker 3: his own party is now fractured beyond belief.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the Democrat Party, as we know it, is over.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to see some splintering of unions that have
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  Speaker 2: been historically the enforcement tool for Democrats to force people
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  Speaker 2: to get into line. They're gone. I mean, the industrial
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  Speaker 2: unions left a long time ago. The public sector unions
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  Speaker 2: are really much more in control. And a party like
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  Speaker 2: that is not really a party. It's a collection of
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  Speaker 2: groups fighting each other for dominance. That doesn't work. The
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  Speaker 2: Republicans are much more united people. on basic arguments. And
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  Speaker 2: in order for Democrats to win, they've got to be
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  Speaker 2: able to do what historically they've done over the last,
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  Speaker 2: let's say, 20 to 30 years since the breakdown of
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  Speaker 2: labor started, even longer under Ronald Reagan, really began and
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  Speaker 2: took on a life of its own. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: be able to speak to groups. That's how they do it.
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  Speaker 3: What the heck is going on here?