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S5, E212 - Should AI Have a Role in the Legislative Chamber? · Privacy Please

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: All righty then.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another episode of Privacy, please.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: I am your host, cameron Ivey, and my goodness do I have some juicy, juicy, juicy money, money, money, juicy, ju-ju-ju-ju-juicy Money, money, money, Money.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, but, seriously, I got some juicy news.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't heard yet, we're going to go ahead and dig into this.
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  Speaker 1: But first I must say this is Rumor.
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  Speaker 1: Has it in Privacy?
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: And this one's not so much of a rumor.
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  Speaker 1: Rumor has it in privacy and this one's not so much of a rumor.
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  Speaker 1: But I am so interested to hear what everybody else in the industry is thinking about this.
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  Speaker 1: So, without further ado, let's dig in.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, arizona Lawmaker uses ChatGPT to define deep fakes and new legislation.
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  Speaker 1: Let's sit for a second.
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  Speaker 1: You heard that right.
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  Speaker 1: You heard that right In a pioneering move Arizona State Representative Alexander Kaludin.
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  Speaker 1: Arizona state representative alexander colluden I think I said that right leverage the power of artificial intelligence to craft a new law regulating deep fakes in elections.
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  Speaker 1: Colluden turned to chat gpt an ai chatbot we all know to define digital impersonation.
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  Speaker 1: In his bill, kaludin, a Republican, admitted that he struggled with the technology jargon necessary for the legislation.
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  Speaker 1: I thought let me just ask the expert.
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  Speaker 1: He said the chatbot's definition closely mirrors the language in the final bill.
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  Speaker 1: Kaludin's proposal received unanimous support in both legislative chambers and was recently signed into law by the Democratic governor.
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  Speaker 1: The legislation offers candidates or residents in Arizona a judicial process to verify the authenticity of suspected deepfakes, thus providing a way to counter AI-driven misinformation.
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  Speaker 1: How do we know that this chat GPT generated bill wasn't misinformed or misinformation?
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  Speaker 1: How do we know that?
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  Speaker 1: Do we check with chat GPT?
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  Speaker 1: On his chat GPT and I quote, I am by no means a computer scientist Kluden explained I needed to ensure the definition was accurate and comprehensive.
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  Speaker 1: Chatgpt provided the baseline and I added protections for human rights and exclusions for comedy, satire and artistic expression.
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  Speaker 1: Kluden has found ChatGPT useful in other legislative tasks helping draft amendments and saving time.
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  Speaker 1: Well gosh, that's the first time I've ever heard that line before.
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  Speaker 1: I lost my train of thought.
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  Speaker 1: Where am I?
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  Speaker 1: Hello, hello.
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  Speaker 1: He tweeted that in a response to an article about his use of the AI in his legislation.
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  Speaker 1: While the federal government has yet to regulate AI in elections, many states are taking action.
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  Speaker 1: Kaludin's bill offers a unique approach by allowing courts to determine the truthfulness of deepfakes rather than outing or outright banning them.
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  Speaker 1: This method aims to balance free speech rights while addressing the misuse of technology, the misuse of technology.
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  Speaker 1: The misuse of technology, the misuse of techno.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, the bill includes specific provisions for removing deepfakes that depict sexual acts or nudity, particularly if the person is not a public figure and the publisher knew the content was false.
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  Speaker 1: Unlike other states requiring disclaimers on AI-generated content, gluden's bill provides flexibility.
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  Speaker 1: If a publisher clearly indicates that the content is a deepfake, legal action may not be necessary.
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  Speaker 1: Kluden believes mandatory disclaimers could interfere with the message's impact or humor.
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  Speaker 1: Kluden hopes Arizona's legislation will serve as a model for other states.
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  Speaker 1: He appreciates the role of deep fakes in political discourse, but emphasizes the need for responsible use.
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  Speaker 1: When politicians regulate speech, it's like a fox guarding the hen house, he noted.
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  Speaker 1: I hope other state legislators adopt a similar approach.
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  Speaker 1: End, end quote.
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  Speaker 1: Oh Listen, I'm all for using ChatGPT to save time, give you structure and certain things and ideas and using that.
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  Speaker 1: This is interesting, the honesty.
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  Speaker 1: I can get behind someone who's honest about something like this.
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  Speaker 1: But then, on the other hand, this thing was passed already.
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  Speaker 1: This law was passed and it was basically generated by artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 1: So my emotions are very mixed here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a very political person, but I am interested in the privacy community and your thoughts Because I know this is going to be a hot topic.
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  Speaker 1: So chime in in the comments.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go, let me hear it, let's debate, let's talk.
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  Speaker 1: I love you all.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know I froze up there for a second.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in.
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  Speaker 1: Let's chime in and debate about this, because I don't know, this is crazy.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: It seems crazy, right, or am I crazy?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It's very interesting, anyways, cameron Ivey, over and out.