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Episode 4: I'm Worried About AI, How to Keep Up, How My Kids Will Grow Up, and Will the World Fall Apart? · Dots and Dreams

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  SPEAKER_00: AI Two letters.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not something new in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yet two letters I never thought I'd hear or think about as often as I have in
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  SPEAKER_00: the last 18 months.
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  SPEAKER_00: Two letters that have given me both sheer terror and also extreme excitement,
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  SPEAKER_00: sometimes both in the same day, sometimes both at the same moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: These two letters have represented a massive wave
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  SPEAKER_00: that is coming at me while I am just standing there on the shore with my surfboard in hand.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I am not a surfer, nor have I ever surfed.
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  SPEAKER_00: Only I can really see that wave coming at me.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can see it absolutely visually.
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  SPEAKER_00: It feels like I've got to jump on and figure out a way how to ride it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Otherwise, it's just going to eat me up.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that makes me feel very small sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's not because I can see it that it's any less scary.
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  SPEAKER_00: Quite the contrary.
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  SPEAKER_00: I never imagined being someone who is so aware of technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm the creative thinker.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm the only one who sees the big picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: And yet in the last few months,
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  SPEAKER_00: I find myself thinking about technology multiple times a day
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  SPEAKER_00: and wondering what is going to happen to me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Dots and Dreams,
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  SPEAKER_00: a podcast about the real,
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  SPEAKER_00: vulnerable, and my sometimes-in-the-moment stories of life transitions.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm Jenny Sidorova,
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  SPEAKER_00: and I've been an immigrant,
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  SPEAKER_00: marketer, a mother, a serial reinventor, and today I want to talk to you about
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  SPEAKER_00: The Life Transition brought on by AI that we are all living today.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's 2012 and I just created my Instagram account.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm living in New York and I'm working for Louis Vuitton as
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  SPEAKER_00: the digital marketing manager for the North American region.
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  SPEAKER_00: I find myself often staying up until 2 a.m. working on a specific PowerPoint presentation.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this presentation will end up getting presented at least 15 times.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is mostly because to get Louis Vuitton to do anything on
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  SPEAKER_00: a new social platform like Instagram required at least 15 presentations.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was just me in New York.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can only imagine what my co-workers in Paris were doing
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  SPEAKER_00: and how often they were presenting the same topic.
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  SPEAKER_00: Of course, eventually Louis Vuitton launched an Instagram account and the rest is history.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm a mature millennial, so I've been through many technology revolutions in my life.
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  SPEAKER_00: I remember AOL launching,
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  SPEAKER_00: getting excited from my first chatroom experience,
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  SPEAKER_00: sobbing over losing my thesis on a disk drive for some sort
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  SPEAKER_00: of English writing class,
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  SPEAKER_00: learning about cities in the moment with no Google Maps,
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  SPEAKER_00: getting lost, trying to find a specific street.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also recall getting my very first iPhone which for me was around the same time
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  SPEAKER_00: as I was pitching Instagram to Louis Vuitton.
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  SPEAKER_00: I pretty much remember every single one of my marketing jobs shifting because
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  SPEAKER_00: I was being very reactive.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would adapt after the fact.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is something to be said, though,
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  SPEAKER_00: about living in a city like New York,
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  SPEAKER_00: San Francisco, and Paris when tech trends happen.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because in cities like that, they tend to be around us.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were front and center for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So maybe I didn't have to pay as much attention or stay on top of them
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  SPEAKER_00: because they were simply a part of my daily life.
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  SPEAKER_00: My offices at Louis Vuitton were on Fifth Avenue.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were right next to the big Apple store.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I remember the massive line every time I knew iPhone would launch and thinking
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  SPEAKER_00: about, hmm, how is this going to impact me in some way?
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  SPEAKER_00: Getting upstairs to my desk,
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  SPEAKER_00: sitting down,
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  SPEAKER_00: opening my content calendar and thinking about,
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  SPEAKER_00: okay, how should I be incorporating Instagram into the next event?
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  SPEAKER_00: it was interesting to watch technology evolve people's behavior change and
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  SPEAKER_00: then I get to actually sit in my chair at work and think about how am I going
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  SPEAKER_00: to get this big luxury
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  SPEAKER_00: Rebrand to react to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that was really fun,
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  SPEAKER_00: really stressful, a lot of pressure, a lot of egos, but it was really fun.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those shifts, Instagram, the iPhone, they are significant.
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  SPEAKER_00: They were very significant in my career,
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  SPEAKER_00: but they feel very small to me right now, almost anecdotal.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because with generative AI, it is entirely different for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: For the first time, I feel like I am able to see the wave before it hit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And while that wave is hitting, it doesn't feel like a shock.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not being shocked does not mean I am not overwhelmed out of my mind.
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  SPEAKER_00: I literally have days when I look out my window past my laptop computer
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  SPEAKER_00: and I visualize this wave.
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  SPEAKER_00: I keep insisting it's a wave because I can see it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can visualize it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this wave is AI and I will be damned if this thing eats me up alive.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here's the thing I don't see anyone talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: Seeing it coming doesn't make it better or less scary.
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  SPEAKER_00: In fact, it makes it worse.
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  SPEAKER_00: It makes it scarier.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is going to be this before and after moment.
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  SPEAKER_00: There is before generative AI and there is now.
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  SPEAKER_00: And we will remember it.
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  SPEAKER_00: At least I know I will.
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  SPEAKER_00: The moment it became very real for me was 2025.
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  SPEAKER_00: I started looking for a new job in January of 2025 because I got laid off just one
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  SPEAKER_00: or two months before.
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  SPEAKER_00: So about a month in,
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  SPEAKER_00: I saw that there were thousands of applicants for every single role
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  SPEAKER_00: that I was applying for on LinkedIn.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think I remember once 3,200 people applied for this role
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  SPEAKER_00: It was just like numbers I've never seen in any other job search
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  SPEAKER_00: and I've got six others under my belt so I have a basis
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  SPEAKER_00: of comparison I wasn't sure what was happening at first so I spoke to one
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  SPEAKER_00: of my best friends who works in HR and just asked her like yo what's going on
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  SPEAKER_00: with recruiting what's happening why are there so many applicants for every role
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  SPEAKER_00: I started to read a little bit about the job market,
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  SPEAKER_00: so it didn't take me very long to realize that this was happening because
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  SPEAKER_00: of generative AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: Companies were using it,
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  SPEAKER_00: candidates were using it,
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  SPEAKER_00: and of course the job market was starting to be really difficult.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people were getting laid off.
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  SPEAKER_00: My biggest realization over the last year of talking to people and quietly observing
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  SPEAKER_00: the impact of AI on the job market kind of led me to have a lot of different fears
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  SPEAKER_00: and I would categorize that fear into three buckets.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to share those fears today because I think we all have our own fears
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  SPEAKER_00: when it comes to AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope that maybe these will be somehow relevant for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: So the spiral for me is really around three areas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Professional relevance,
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  SPEAKER_00: thinking is the last frontier, and kind of what I call the bigger picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about professional relevance.
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  SPEAKER_00: This one is probably the most first dimensional and it is the most fresh
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  SPEAKER_00: because I really experienced it last year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of people, I ask myself, am I even still relevant on the job market today?
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  SPEAKER_00: Will I ever even find a job again?
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, I'm building something and I don't need to be looking for full-time work.
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  SPEAKER_00: Starek
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  SPEAKER_00: Companies expect you to master something that they haven't even mastered yet,
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  SPEAKER_00: that the world hasn't even figured out yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: I very much felt that in all the interviews that I had.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was like they want you to master this thing that didn't even exist two years ago.
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  SPEAKER_00: I have friends who are in really big tech companies that are at the
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  SPEAKER_00: So it's just interesting to have all of this information of me being in
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  SPEAKER_00: the job seekers seat and then having the perspective for my friends who are
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  SPEAKER_00: in big technology companies in Silicon Valley and telling me no one knows what
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  SPEAKER_00: the fuck they're doing with AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: The next bucket is kind of what I call thinking is the last frontier.
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  SPEAKER_00: I love that phrase.
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  SPEAKER_00: It actually came out of Anthropik's study that they released earlier this year.
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  SPEAKER_00: They did a study last December where they interviewed 81,000 people
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  SPEAKER_00: across 159 countries and released a lot of information about what people think
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  SPEAKER_00: about AI,
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  SPEAKER_00: how they use it, what are they most afraid of, what are they most excited about.
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  SPEAKER_00: The study
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really the most honest thing I've read about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I do applaud them for being so transparent.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think that's really interesting to think about, though, because...
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  SPEAKER_00: I use AI very much to synthesize things for me I don't want AI writing anything
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  SPEAKER_00: that I'm going to post I don't want AI actually like writing what I'm going to say
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  SPEAKER_00: but I do give AI things that I have written and ask for a synthesis it's the same
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  SPEAKER_00: where if you give it a bunch of data and you say can you give me a little recap
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to save you hours of time of going through that data yourself.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it still somehow feels like cheating.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like when I use it that way, even when it's my words, I still don't feel super good about it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think the worry is I'm scared that I'm going to lose the ability to think.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm scared that my brain is actually going to work differently,
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  SPEAKER_00: that I won't be as good at being a critical thinker anymore.
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  SPEAKER_00: The act of poking holes and synthesizing and recapping,
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  SPEAKER_00: which are probably the main ways that I am using AI,
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are things we used to do for ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I spiral about the fact that
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  SPEAKER_00: What I'm doing, is it going to change the way my brain works?
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  SPEAKER_00: We already struggle to sit and read a book.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know that I have to put my phone in another room so that I can feel present with my kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: What about now with AI?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it just feels scary to me because I don't want to lose the ability to think,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it certainly feels like it is the last frontier.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the third point
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  SPEAKER_00: Bucket of Fear that I experience is kind of what I call the bigger picture.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this probably matters most because it touches on a lot of different areas.
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  SPEAKER_00: There's my kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: What is their education going to look like?
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  SPEAKER_00: What does learning look like for them going forward?
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  SPEAKER_00: I already think about this in regards to iPads because my kids don't have any of that yet.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're too little.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I have a friend whose son is in middle school and everything is done through an iPad.
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  SPEAKER_00: and he has real screen fatigue like he gets tired faster than another kid
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  SPEAKER_00: when he's doing his homework because by the time he gets all the information from
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  SPEAKER_00: the iPad he's already completely wiped out.
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  SPEAKER_00: I also think about fake news.
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  SPEAKER_00: Whenever something big happens in the world we have to genuinely be cautious
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  SPEAKER_00: of reading headlines.
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they fake?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they
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  SPEAKER_00: So, these fears are what make this feel like so much more than just some random new tech.
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  SPEAKER_00: These massive fears were not there at the launch of Instagram or Amazons.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's much more than just something new I have to learn that's going to impact my career.
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to share my journey with AI and how I stay sane,
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  SPEAKER_00: how I try to stay ahead or at least at the pace I think is right for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: And most importantly, how I make AI fit into my world and not the other way around.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I hope this is going to make you feel less overwhelmed and give you some optimism.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to lie.
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  SPEAKER_00: I definitely have had days where I just want to throw my computer out the window
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  SPEAKER_00: and tell my family, let's move somewhere there is no AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: Only there is no such place So what I started to do was I started to try to get in
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  SPEAKER_00: the driver's seat and have some control over my fears and have some control
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  SPEAKER_00: over how AI was impacting my mental health and my mind So my journey with AI started
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  SPEAKER_00: with Claude for the job search I signed up for the 20 euros a month monthly fee
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  SPEAKER_00: because I was quickly running out of my daily allowance
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  SPEAKER_00: and I created a project.
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  SPEAKER_00: So just the fact of creating projects really helped me be much more organized
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  SPEAKER_00: because at some point you end up having like a hundred conversations
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  SPEAKER_00: and you don't know where anything is.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I created a job search project and within that project I have
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  SPEAKER_00: a separate conversation for networking.
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  SPEAKER_00: a separate conversation
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  SPEAKER_00: for all my tools like my portfolio my LinkedIn my resume my cover letter so all
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  SPEAKER_00: the tools and then yet another separate conversation for applications
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  SPEAKER_00: and I really nurtured the project I gave it
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  SPEAKER_00: a very specific prompt I gave it examples of my work examples of my LinkedIn writing
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  SPEAKER_00: recommendations people gave me on LinkedIn so really try to teach Claude who am I as
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  SPEAKER_00: a professional I did a lot of voice dictation to share what it is I'm looking
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  SPEAKER_00: for next what I enjoyed in my career and once I set that up
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  SPEAKER_00: It became a lot less overwhelming Granted,
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm not using this anymore because I'm not looking for a job anymore But still,
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  SPEAKER_00: that was kind of my first step towards feeling like I could have AI working
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  SPEAKER_00: for me rather than I'm working for AI
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  SPEAKER_00: Training it to understand who I am is really important.
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  SPEAKER_00: I went pretty far in the exercise, and I did this for every single project I have.
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  SPEAKER_00: Every project I have now has a tone of voice, do's and don'ts.
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  SPEAKER_00: Some projects literally have, do not ever write anything for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Only ask me questions to help me think about what it is I'm tackling.
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  SPEAKER_00: The early mistake I saw was that AI was like too confident, always a cheerleader.
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  SPEAKER_00: I was never wrong.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's where I encourage you to create prompts that basically give it a lot of information.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really be super,
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  SPEAKER_00: super precise about what it is you're trying to achieve and what the AI's role is in
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  SPEAKER_00: that project.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I would say maybe like you are a career coach and I want you to ask me questions
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  SPEAKER_00: that are going to help me get to the bottom of what brings me joy when I'm working.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's just an example, but you really have to be very specific.
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  SPEAKER_00: One thing that I felt very strongly about was because I'm working on a lot
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  SPEAKER_00: of creative projects right now, I don't want Claude doing the creativity for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when I create this podcast, I don't want Claude writing my outline or writing my transcript.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I
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  SPEAKER_00: Publish an article on Substack.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't want Claude writing my article for me.
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  SPEAKER_00: Those are the things I enjoy, and that is where my brain critically thinks.
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  SPEAKER_00: But I do like to have Claude be kind of my content marketing assistant
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  SPEAKER_00: and be this everyday support that I can have at any time when I'm feeling stuck.
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  SPEAKER_00: Another thing that I use that's really important is whisper flow.
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  SPEAKER_00: So whisper flow is a dictation technology,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it does a lot more than just take what you dictate and put the words into clod
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  SPEAKER_00: or into whatever.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's going to...
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  SPEAKER_00: Break Up Your Dictation In A Way That Helps Claude Give You The Best Result
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  SPEAKER_00: And I Just Love Using Dictation Because Sometimes Talking Is More Fun Or Easier
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  SPEAKER_00: Or I'm On The Go With My Kids But I've Got An Idea
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  SPEAKER_00: So I'm Just Gonna Dictate It Really Quickly This Is Absolutely Not An Ad
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  SPEAKER_00: For Whisper Flow But I Highly Recommend You Check It Out If You're Someone Who Wants
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  SPEAKER_00: To Test Talking Instead Of Typing
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  SPEAKER_00: So everything I was doing with Claude, all of this thought process, it was huge.
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  SPEAKER_00: It was heavy.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it took months.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's still evolving.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's still very overwhelming.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it's been very lonely because, well, you're by yourself with the technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm also in Basque country.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, no one's really talking about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: There are a few people I can talk to about this, but not a lot.
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  SPEAKER_00: everyone's an expert on LinkedIn so I don't really like posting too much
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  SPEAKER_00: about what I've learned or done with AI on LinkedIn but
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  SPEAKER_00: It's lonely.
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  SPEAKER_00: I can see that AI can be very isolating and that in itself is also scary.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like every time there's something positive about AI,
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  SPEAKER_00: it is paired with there being something scary with AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: But doing all these things,
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  SPEAKER_00: getting in the driver's seat, learning made me feel less overwhelmed and it kind of
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  SPEAKER_00: led me to this feeling of I'm not behind, I'm normal.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really where the shift started to take place,
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  SPEAKER_00: where it went from being something very scary and overwhelming to,
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  SPEAKER_00: let's say, I started to have moments of excitement with AI.
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  SPEAKER_00: That paired with the realization and acceptance and the permission I gave myself
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  SPEAKER_00: that nobody has this figured out,
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  SPEAKER_00: gave me this kind of shift.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see it as having a thinking partner for every creative process available at 2am if I want.
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  SPEAKER_00: That never gets tired, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Imagine having that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Imagine having a support for whatever it is you're working on that is always there,
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  SPEAKER_00: always available, and always going to be your supporter.
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  SPEAKER_00: That is one thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: AI is never going to tell you you're a loser.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just not programmed that way.
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  SPEAKER_00: The business possibility is also kind of exciting.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'm building something new, something I thought I'd never do.
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  SPEAKER_00: And there are a lot of tasks that used to be done by a team that are now done by a solo person.
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  SPEAKER_00: And while that
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: has repercussions on our society.
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  SPEAKER_00: It also has a positive effect on people like me who have never dared
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  SPEAKER_00: to create their own company and are now trying.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's something to be excited about.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's causing kind of a shift in my identity because of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've always been a lifelong corporate employee,
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  SPEAKER_00: and now I'm genuinely asking whether I will even go back.
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  SPEAKER_00: knowing how I'm going to use it has made it feel more exciting it's like
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  SPEAKER_00: the goal was never the mastery so my advice to you if you are feeling overwhelmed
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  SPEAKER_00: with AI is first of all it is okay accept that it is an overwhelming thing
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  SPEAKER_00: and you are not alone you are absolutely not the only one who feels this way
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  SPEAKER_00: But get in there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Start using it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Start playing around with it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And don't ask AI what the weather is going to be.
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  SPEAKER_00: You can look that up on your weather app.
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  SPEAKER_00: But figure out what you are comfortable with and then define what is the no-go for you.
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  SPEAKER_00: Think about, this is what I want AI for.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is what I don't want AI for.
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  SPEAKER_00: And stick to that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Give yourself some grace.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like, this is a big, overwhelming shift.
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  SPEAKER_00: I read a wide variety of people who read it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I'll throw them in the show notes as well.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also some philosophical writers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just recommend
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  SPEAKER_00: and Dreams
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  SPEAKER_00: And by all means,
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  SPEAKER_00: take breaks Do other stuff Hold a physical book Go walk in nature Step away
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  SPEAKER_00: from your AI app
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  SPEAKER_00: I very much still don't have it figured out the wave is still coming at me
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  SPEAKER_00: but I'm finding my footing on the board I feel like I am on the surfboard on
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  SPEAKER_00: the wave not at the top of the wave but I'm by all means not standing on the shore
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  SPEAKER_00: with my surfboard in hand anymore
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  SPEAKER_00: If you want to learn more about how I'm using AI and even see some
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  SPEAKER_00: of what I've built for myself,
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  SPEAKER_00: I share things that I build in addition to photos from the different times
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  SPEAKER_00: in my life that I talk about in each episode you can even hit reply
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  SPEAKER_00: and tell me what's your journey with AI are you riding the wave
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  SPEAKER_00: or are you still ashore feeling absolutely terrified either way I'd really love
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  SPEAKER_00: and review this episode wherever you're listening that will help others like you
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  SPEAKER_00: and I find this show
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  SPEAKER_00: Until next time!