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Mac & Bone Hour 3: ACC On3 Head Coach Rankings & Jeff Peterson Trust · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, we're gonna talk some college
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  Speaker 2: football here. Multiple things going on here, including on three
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  Speaker 2: sports putting out their ACC coach rankings just this morning.
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  Speaker 2: We will tell you where the locals rank in that list.
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  Speaker 2: But I was thinking yesterday, Fitty, a lot of college
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  Speaker 2: football talk in terms of the national scene is Big
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  Speaker 2: ten SEC. The Big ten's been the dominant force lately
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  Speaker 2: because the championships. The SEC says we're still good, but
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  Speaker 2: they're not winning championships. So I started thinking the battles
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  Speaker 2: between those two. Right. However, if you had to bet
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  Speaker 2: this year, would you bet that the new national champion
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  Speaker 2: comes from the Big ten, the SEC, or other? Because
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  Speaker 2: there are two teams not in those conferences that have
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  Speaker 2: wit chances to be in the championship game and win
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  Speaker 2: it all, and that's Miami and Notre Dame. So all
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  Speaker 2: this Big ten SEC stuff, would you bet that the
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  Speaker 2: champion doesn't even come from either of those conferences and
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  Speaker 2: it comes from outside, whether it be the ACC or Independent.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's an argument to be made bone that
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame might be they might be the best team
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  Speaker 1: in all of college football.
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  Speaker 2: They may not have the most ticked off team in
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  Speaker 2: college football this year exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they have the best roster in
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  Speaker 1: the sport, but I do think that could be the
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  Speaker 1: best team. I think Miami is poised to get back
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  Speaker 1: to the playoff, and if they get back, who knows
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  Speaker 1: what they could do after making a run last year
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  Speaker 1: to the title game.
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  Speaker 3: As the ten.
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  Speaker 1: Seed, you still have to go with the SEC and
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  Speaker 1: the Big Ten just because you have a larger pool
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  Speaker 1: of teams.
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  Speaker 3: To pick from.
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  Speaker 1: Like you look at the Big Ten, your national championship
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  Speaker 1: contenders as of this moment, I would say confidently are
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State, Oregon, and you have to put Indiana in
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  Speaker 1: the conversation because all they've been under Signetti has been
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  Speaker 1: a playoff caliber program. Who knows what can maybe happen
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  Speaker 1: at Michigan, USC, Penn State and others. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've got three legitimate schools right there that are prime
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  Speaker 1: to compete for a national championship. You flip it over
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  Speaker 1: to the SEC. You know you have Georgia, you know
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  Speaker 1: you have Texas. What is LSU potentially gonna be under
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  Speaker 1: lang Kiffen in year one? We've heard how expensive that
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  Speaker 1: roster is if he's the coach that with think he is.
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  Speaker 1: Would have surprised you if LSU found themselves playing deep
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  Speaker 1: into the the CFP.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't You've also we got Ole Miss and Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: who are projected top ten, top twelve, and I haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Even mentioned Alabama yet, and who knows what Alabama could
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  Speaker 1: be if they get the quarterback spot figured out. So
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  Speaker 1: there's a conversation for maybe Notre Dame in Miami being
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  Speaker 1: two of the top three teams in all of the sport.
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  Speaker 1: But I would lean the SEC and the Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: just because there's a larger pool of teams to pick
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  Speaker 1: for it.
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  Speaker 2: I will say there's a large pool of teams, but
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  Speaker 2: are those teams ultimately better than Miami and Notre damar
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  Speaker 2: this year? That's that's the question because the SEC, while
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  Speaker 2: there's still a lot of teams, would you say that
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  Speaker 2: any of them are sure fire better than those teams?
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  Speaker 2: I think Notre Dame. I think you're right because I
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  Speaker 2: think last year so much was on the run game,
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  Speaker 2: and it was on Jeremiah Love and how good he was.
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  Speaker 2: I think CJ. Carr goes up to Heisman levels that
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  Speaker 2: I think that dude that he's going to now. They
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  Speaker 2: got by with him last year, learning and figured things out.
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  Speaker 2: I think CJ. Carr goes up to that that Heisman
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  Speaker 2: type level now can carry them through some games and
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  Speaker 2: guess what, the schedule is not that hard, where the
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  Speaker 2: numbers are going to be great. I think Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 2: I think I would say, as crazy as it sounds,
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  Speaker 2: I would bet that the national champion coach from outside
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  Speaker 2: the big tenn at SEC.
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  Speaker 3: This year, that's that's dangerous. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 3: want to put a.
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  Speaker 2: Note as a dangerous man. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 2: know this or not.
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  Speaker 3: You and Baker Mayfield both.
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  Speaker 1: I just wouldn't want to pigeonhole myself because without soars
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  Speaker 1: me no longer at Texas Tech, I don't see a
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  Speaker 1: Big twelve school that could emerge as a legitimate threat
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  Speaker 1: to win the national championship. And there's no one outside
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  Speaker 1: of Miami and the ACC that I am confident could
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  Speaker 1: compete for a national title. The thing with Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: that's very interesting. Two bone is you mentioned Carr elevating
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  Speaker 1: himself into Heisman Trophy kind of conversations. He wasn't even
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  Speaker 1: the reason why they lost their first two.
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  Speaker 3: Games last year.
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  Speaker 1: Remember it was that defense that was so green on
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  Speaker 1: the back end that just got exposed. They got older,
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  Speaker 1: they got more mature as the season moved along. Now
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  Speaker 1: all you know, those guys are back. They're basically now
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  Speaker 1: better than how many how many snaps they played? And
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  Speaker 1: your quarterback, Oh yeah, the back half of the year
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  Speaker 1: was playing at a really high level as well. I
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  Speaker 1: think the motivation after being left out, I think that's
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  Speaker 1: something that they could really rally behind. Yep, really that
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  Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman can use as fuel in the in the
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  Speaker 1: days and months leading up to the season. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they're gonna win the national championship. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I'm willing to bet that, but I would
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  Speaker 1: be hard pressed outside of a major injury or two,
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  Speaker 1: if we get in.
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  Speaker 3: Selection Sunday and Notre Dame's not in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I agree they're sending your thoughts seven oh four, five, seven, nine,
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  Speaker 2: six ten. Our first question of this college football segment,
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  Speaker 2: where is the national champ most likely to come from
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  Speaker 2: Big ten SEC or we just assume other in Miami
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  Speaker 2: Notre Dame. We don't think, as Fitty said that anybody
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  Speaker 2: else would fit in out of the Big twelve or
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  Speaker 2: is it Pac twelve back?
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  Speaker 3: It's back.
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  Speaker 2: I would not put them in there either right now.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing that's got on this morning, Fitty is
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  Speaker 2: on three Sports, who's doing a lot of rankings. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about the quarterbacks later on in this hour from
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  Speaker 2: the ACC. They just put out their coaching rankings for
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  Speaker 2: the ACC one through seventeen. To all go through some
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  Speaker 2: of this the highlights here, I won't read off all seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: If someone has a question on where someone ranks, we'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about them. But Mario Christobal is number one now.
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  Speaker 2: A year ago we'd say whoa WHOA hold on a
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  Speaker 2: lot to prove. Like Macus said last year, I thought
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  Speaker 2: he did a really good job. A lot of the
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  Speaker 2: coaching heirs that were with them before weren't there last year.
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  Speaker 2: I say, Mario christ the baal justified number one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, after what he was able to do last year.
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  Speaker 1: And remember when they lost those back to back games.
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  Speaker 1: It was at mid to late October. We were kind
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  Speaker 1: of having those same conversations about Miami.
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  Speaker 3: Around Miami.
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  Speaker 1: They get into the playoff, they get to the national
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  Speaker 1: title game, that kind of kind of erases all that
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  Speaker 1: there's no doubt that they're now the premiere program in
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  Speaker 1: the ACC. With Clemson not being able to capitalize off
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  Speaker 1: a playoff appearance two years ago barely you know, going
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  Speaker 1: seven and six just last year, you cannot He doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have a national title yet, but he has a national
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  Speaker 1: title game appearance, and with the recent regression we've seen
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  Speaker 1: from Dabo and the Clemson Tigers, it's more than vow
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  Speaker 1: for him to be ranked ahead of him.
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  Speaker 2: Despite the regression from Clemson finishing not ranked for the
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  Speaker 2: first time last year fourteen years, Dabo checks in on
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  Speaker 2: three Sports, number two coach in the ACC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know that that makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 2: However, though I don't know the look these makes sense
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  Speaker 2: now Chris of Baul what he's doing in Dabbo. But
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  Speaker 2: I think the number three coach before long may not
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  Speaker 2: be next year, but you give him a couple of years.
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  Speaker 2: The number three coach on there is James Franklin. I
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  Speaker 2: think the meshing of James Franklin Virginia Tech. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he's gonna say three for long. I think eventually
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin becomes, if not the best coach in this
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  Speaker 2: conference number two. At least he'll move up soon.
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  Speaker 1: The James Franklin conversation to me, I find very interesting
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  Speaker 1: because it was the obvious higher outside of when LSU
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  Speaker 1: was finally able to poach away Lane Kiffin from Oxford
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  Speaker 1: Bona is there Are you open to the idea that
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  Speaker 1: James Franklin doesn't succeed at Virginia Tech because it feels
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a foregone conclusion that he's gonna revitalize
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  Speaker 1: that program and get them back to competing at the
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  Speaker 1: national level.
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  Speaker 2: No, he will. He The reason is think about how
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  Speaker 2: good he did against schools not named Ohio State, Michigan,
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  Speaker 2: like he struggled with the top dogs, and look, that
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  Speaker 2: could be a problem in the postseason, But in this conference,
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  Speaker 2: you know how many wins this due can rack up
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  Speaker 2: against opponents that are similar in nature to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of those middle tier Big ten teams. Now he I
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  Speaker 2: don't have any doubt that James Franklin the right higher
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  Speaker 2: right time. I think the world of that dude at
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  Speaker 2: Virginia Tech, and I'm gonna ride that out now. I
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  Speaker 2: have no qualms about James Franklin.
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  Speaker 1: If you say, though, that he emerges as the best
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  Speaker 1: coach in this conference. That to me would suggest that
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  Speaker 1: he wins a national championship in Blacksburg, because I think
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  Speaker 1: Chrystal Ball is gonna win one with Miami. Like for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a matter of if he's going to win one,
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  Speaker 1: it's a matter of when he's gonna get one. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if I feel the same way about Franklin
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  Speaker 1: and the Hokies. I do think that he will, especially
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  Speaker 1: when this playoff does expand, whether it's to fourteen sixteen,
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  Speaker 1: god forbid we go all the way to twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: I do think Virginia Tech is poised to be a
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  Speaker 1: annual playoff contender year in year out. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I feel the same way about him. That's
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  Speaker 1: only a matter of when he wins one. I think
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  Speaker 1: for James Franklin, it's still if he wins one.
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  Speaker 2: Checking in number four, Lashley, Jeff Brom five, many excuse me,
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  Speaker 2: Brent Key six, many d As seven and Jake Dickert A.
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  Speaker 2: That's good respect for Jake Dickert there to be in
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  Speaker 2: the top half of the league after one year. Can
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  Speaker 2: I say something though?
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  Speaker 3: What you got we have?
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  Speaker 2: Brent Key six, Brom five DS seven. I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 2: ask and you can maybe you got an answer. What
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  Speaker 2: has Jeff Brom done that Many DZ hasn't done?
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  Speaker 3: He hasn't won.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Brom is a good coach. Many Diaz in his
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  Speaker 2: first two years took that without Mike Elko and made
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  Speaker 2: it almost even as good as it was. Won the
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  Speaker 2: ACC last year despite some losses. Couldn't you make the
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  Speaker 2: case that many DS so far has been better than
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  Speaker 2: Jeff Brom.
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  Speaker 1: I see, this might be controversial. I would have my
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  Speaker 1: top four listed as crystal ball. I still have Dabbo too,
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  Speaker 1: he still deserves the benefit of the doubt. I'd have
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Brom three, and then I would have James Franklin four,
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  Speaker 1: just because no.
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  Speaker 2: One moving Lashley down from his spot.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have him. I'd have him five, Many.
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  Speaker 2: DS six, Okay, Brett Key after that, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then brit Key for me, I would have him
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  Speaker 1: seven because I think Brom has the most wins in
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  Speaker 1: conference place and see got to Louisville. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: won the most ACC games. Of course, he has taken
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  Speaker 1: the Louisville Cardinals to an ACC championship game. There's no denowing.
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  Speaker 1: There's no denying what many Diaz has done since he
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  Speaker 1: took over for Elcos, but nothing sort of impressive, like
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  Speaker 1: he's overachieved both of his first.
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  Speaker 2: He does that again, he's going not the top of
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  Speaker 2: the list, but he's moving on. But if the ACC
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  Speaker 2: had legitimate tiebreakers, they wouldn't have been in Charlotte last year.
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  Speaker 2: Who's got Who's got the belt? Though I don't say
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  Speaker 2: it says champs not tiebreaker winners, ms, You're right the
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  Speaker 2: belt and there's It.
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  Speaker 1: Still needs to be celebrated that Duke football won an
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  Speaker 1: ACC championship like that's still did even though they were
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  Speaker 1: a seven and five football team when they did so.
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  Speaker 1: But I I think like the thing with Brahm and
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  Speaker 1: Louisville is, you know every year you're like you can
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  Speaker 1: pencil them in like their floors eight wins. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like because of how good the quarterback is going to
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  Speaker 1: play under him. I don't know if Manny Diaz is
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  Speaker 1: en Durham for the long term, if we'll have those
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  Speaker 1: same feelings, but he should be ranked ahead of Brent Key.
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 3: I do agree with that he started fast last year.
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  Speaker 1: Remember Georgia Tech was what eight and oh eight and one,
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  Speaker 1: but they didn't finish the season strong.
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  Speaker 3: I'd have many Diaz rinked ahead of him.
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  Speaker 2: On three sports acc coach list, Paton Ardowzy nine, Tony
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  Speaker 2: Elliott ten, who's starting to move up a little bit
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  Speaker 2: by the way based off last year. And here's where
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  Speaker 2: it gets interesting, Fiddy. Dave Dorn checks in at number
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  Speaker 2: eleven on the list, followed by Fran Brown Norvell two
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  Speaker 2: coaches that are new to the scene. Talks Will Poia
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  Speaker 2: cal To, Vita Pritchard of Stanford or fourteen to fifteen
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  Speaker 2: Dave Dorn's eleven. Bill Belichick checks in last at number
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  Speaker 2: seventeen on this list. What's more surprising to you that
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  Speaker 2: Belichick is a dead last or that Dave Dorn is
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  Speaker 2: at eleven. That seems a little bit low for where
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  Speaker 2: Dave dor normally falls on these lists.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if I want to take off my Carolina Blue lenses,
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  Speaker 1: the fact that a seven time Super Bowl champion is
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  Speaker 1: ranked behind first time head coaches.
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  Speaker 2: Is really about all that's that's that's rough.
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  Speaker 1: But that tells you just what people think of the
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  Speaker 1: job he did year one. I do think, I mean
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  Speaker 1: eleven for Dorian coming off of what the season was
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  Speaker 1: last year makes a lot of sense because I do
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  Speaker 1: think at his peak he's probably in that ds Key
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  Speaker 1: range where he's checking in in the top half of
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  Speaker 1: the league.
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  Speaker 2: Dicker and Elliott have to do it more to be ranked.
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  Speaker 2: Diz has done it twice, but Dickert's one year Tony
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  Speaker 2: Elliott had back to back three win seasons got better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Would you say that Doran's got more of a track
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  Speaker 2: record obviously than Dicker. Nordouzzi is always kind of who
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  Speaker 2: he is, but Dickert and Tony Elliott, I would not.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think that de're ahead right now yet of
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  Speaker 2: Dave Dorn at all. That seems a little too early
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  Speaker 2: for that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the job that Tony Elliott did was able
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  Speaker 1: to do last year cannot be understated. I do wonder
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  Speaker 1: if there's a momentum there they'll be carried over into
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  Speaker 1: this year and beyond. And I think people looking at
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  Speaker 1: Dickert and what the state of the force program from
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  Speaker 1: a financial perspective, because like, here's the thing, but and
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  Speaker 1: if he does that again, he won't be at wake
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  Speaker 1: four 's for long. There's gonna be a bigger program.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's that's that's gonna come calling. Maybe the same
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  Speaker 1: thing for Elliotts as well. I don't have a lot of.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen Davo ever moves on from Clemson, Untell to be.
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  Speaker 3: A natural replacement for Elliott to go back to Death Valley.
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  Speaker 1: I guess because I'm just an anti Dorn guy, I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: don't have a whole lot of quarrels about Dorn checking
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: in at number eleven.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you this is not good for Mike
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Norvel and Bill Belichick. Though Mike Norvell is one spot
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: ahead of the two new coaches at Callen Stanford and Belichick,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: and Bill O'Brien's also behind those guys. But Mike Norvell,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: you talk about, think about where they were two years ago,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and now he's thirteenth in the ACC just ahead of
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: two guys that never coached before as head coaches. I well,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I would always put Belichick ahead
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of the new guys until they coach. That seems a
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, you want to put Belichick at
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: you know, fourteen, it's still not good, but putting him
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: behind guys who have anything about that's a little bit.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I'll put about seventeen when we come back in the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Mack and Bone Show. The Hornets have a power ranking
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in from the Bleacher Report. We'll tell you what it is,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and how do we feel about this ranking and does
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: it change our perspective a little bit? Sports Radio ninety
• 18:25
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• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Every now and then I get a little bit normally
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: engine never coming around, turn around every now and then
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: I get a little bit hip listening to this sown
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: in my team a round every now and then I
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: get a little bit nurse that the best of all
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: the years to come by road every now and then
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I get it bit.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we have some sad news breaking this morning.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: That's the voice of Bonnie Tyler in nineteen eighty three,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: her hit song totally Clips of the Heart. It had
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: a revival really in two thousand and four during the
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: scene in Old School when the band was playing it
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: at the wedding. Bonnie Tyler passes away over night, age
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: seventy five. So really one of the great jams of
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: the of the eighties. And as mentioned Fitty, you didn't
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: know her name, but certainly as soon as that song
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: hit you knew what song that was.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you asked me if I knew or you
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: told me about her during one of the breaks, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I just admitted I did not know.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who were what you were talking about?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: School? You remember that song when the band is and
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: they throw their own words into it. Yeah, so and
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: Will Cheryl's looking around like that's not that's not the
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: words of the song.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So definitely a sad day for sure.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But definitely rest in peace to Bonnie Tyler. Want to
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: make sure we said that Fitty I was scout. I
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: was scaring the webs. That's not how I'm supposed to
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: say that, right, scouring the webs. I burned my do
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that every night. I burned my tongue on coffee. So
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: trying to say scouring the web came out wrong. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I stumbled upon the Bleacher Report's latest NBA Power rankings. Now,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: there's a long way to go here in the offseason.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: We don't even know where Lebron is playing yet. There's
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: a lot to be decided here. But you would get
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the sense from the reaction to a lot of Hornets
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: fans that we would be somewhere in the in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: mid twenties, that the dark days are upon us, that
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: we are now back to being irrelevant again in the NBA.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Power Rankings update post Hornets trades, and we'll see if
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: they do anything else. We don't know. The Hornets fell
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: three spots from the last one. The Hornets were at
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: number ten in the last Power ranking. They are now
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: at number thirteen number one. Does that that they didn't
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: fall all that far? Also, if they were thirteenth in
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the league this year in that area, would that be
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a problem or do you think all things considered, that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: would still be a pretty good year considering the changes
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: that they made.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think bone if they emerge as the thirteenth
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: best team in the NBA between the Eastern and the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Western Conference, I think you would have to be pretty
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: satisfied because, as of this moment, if this is what
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we think this roster is going to look like going
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: into next year, I don't know if they're necessarily equipped
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: to not even get back to forty four wins.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And this is how different of.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: A conversation we're having with the LaMelo ball trade and
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the Miles Bridges trade. A lot of conversations we were
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: having earlier in the summer leading up to the draft
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: and previewing free agency, was thinking this team was positioned
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: to win fifty games if you just do the math
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: off what they were able to achieve last year after
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: a four and fourteen start to get to forty four wins,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: they would you would think they could win fifty games
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: next year. I no longer feel that way. I think
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: their ceiling might be what they achieved last year, which
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: is forty four wins. What I think this continues to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: show you is the disconnect that exists from the people
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that cover the league and the people that are a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: fan of this team. The people that the people that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: know the ins and outs and the nuts and bolts
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: of how the NBA operates have loved these two moves.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: A fan base that has been starved to be a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to see a competitive and relevant team has lost two
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: starters and their fan favorite don't love those moves and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: don't maybe don't have their eyes open to what Jeff
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Peterson is actually doing as he's looking to build for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: twenty thirty three and beyond. So I think that's what
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I took away from this is that this is just
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: the latest example of the national media believing more in
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Jeff Peterson's vision than the actual Hornets fan base believing
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in what their general manager is doing.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Look the Eastern Conference is going to be a goal
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: with there's no doubt. But it also needs to be
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: said it's not just a galling for the Hornets either though,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: when we look at all these teams that are getting
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: better and the teams that were already good, they have
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: to play each other. Also, it's not like the Panthers'
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: schedule is always a talking point, right where the Panthers
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: have to go through this gallwood of a schedule much
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: like their NFC South counterparts. But all these teams in
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: the NBA are going to play each other. So yes,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough for the Hornets, but it's gonna
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: be tough for everybody. My overall point here is, and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: I think you're saying the same thing. I understand the
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: fan frustration, but I do believe in Jeff Peterson, and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I do believe that this team will be different. But
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know how much it's going to affect the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: overall win lost total. Yeah it may a little bit,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: but I don't think, like Jeff Peterson said the other day,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: this is about the long term. So whatever hit they
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: take next year, I'm still fully in on what the
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: future is of this team because they've got young stars
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: or emerging players. We know Jeff Peterson aggressive, They've got
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of flexibility. I'm not thinking this ship is
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: going under why some people are.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: No, I think this was an organization that enjoyed the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: success that the second half of the season brought them
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: what they were after January first, but it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Wasn't going to divert them from the plan.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And I think when Jeff Peterson got here, he was
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: determined at one point to move off LaMelo Ball. It
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: just took until this offseason to do so. They've been
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: looking to trade Miles Bridges ever since they brought him back,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Like how many trade deadlines have we gotten to?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: And that was a name.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: It was just it was it was just time, Yeah,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: it was. It was based off your moves you made
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: where he is and you were going to repay him
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: his contract you were. He was never he was never
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: part of whatever's next. No, I don't know, if I
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: gotta be honest, how quickly they moved off Lamela when
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: it's as soon as he got healthy, he was gone.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: I think they were waiting for that. I think they
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: were waiting for that moment and they did it as
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: quick as they could. They were probably the reason they
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: had they moved very quickly on that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Him staying healthy I think only fueled the fire to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: trade him, because I don't think they're betting long term
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: he's going to be able to play seventy two games
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: on a year in year basis in Minnesota wherever he
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: ends up, maybe maybe post to stop with.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: With the Timberwolves.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: But I do I do understand and feel and feel
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the frustration of this fan base and why they're or
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: so ticked off because all they've been asking for and
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: begging for is to just be relevant, give us a
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: reason to show up. And we saw what that environment
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: was like so many you know, with all the record
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: amount of consecutive sellouts and everything that we saw, the
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: home court advantage that was legitimately built, and then it
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: all gets torn down. I know it's a different sport,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: but I can draw the comparisons to what David Stearns
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: did with the New York met team that was two
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: wins away from going to the World Series. The very
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: next year, though they don't make the playoffs, he dismantles
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: them and he's trying to rebuild that organization in his image.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think that LaMelo Ball and Miles Bridges fit
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: the image of what the Hornets want to be on
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: or off the court under Jeff Peterson, under new ownership
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: with Charles Lee as their head coach, and they were
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: not gonna let forty four wins a dramatic win in
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the play in tournament stand in the way of them
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: doing what they set out to do and what they
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: sold ownership on to do when they were both hired
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: all over two years ago.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Can also point out here something that on the text
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: line first of all, whether man Mark has them winning
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: twenty five games, and the text below that is Sir
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Owayna Beef has them winning sixty five games. So there's
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit of disconnect there between two of our
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: known listeners with the man Mark and Sir Jwyina Beef,
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: which leads me to think tomorrow Fitty debate time whether
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: man Mark Sirwoyan.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: It might be time to get something like that going.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Look, last year was a great year. It was a
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: fun team. It was a team that was a totally
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: different team than the year before. But there are some
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: people here that are acting like we broke up the
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: two thousand to two thousand two Lakers here. Yes they
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: won forty four games, Yes they improved, but the bottom
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: line is when you look at how it ended, Jeff
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Peterson in this front office saw something against Orlando, whether
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: it's the physicality, whatever it was where they said, yeah,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: there might be a ceiling on this group and this
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: fun year, fun team, but getting to the plan and
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: getting the whoop up from Orlando not good enough. Well,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: so we didn't. We didn't break up a juggernaut here. Guy.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yes it's a fun team, but where one year removed
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: from wanting a lot of people wanting all these guys
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: gone anyway?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: And I think it's important that you bring up the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: or Orlando loss because the moves they've made so far
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: haven't been in response to that, that physical beatdown that
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: they took and that in that play in tournament defeat
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: that that knocked them out of the the actual NBA postseason.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I think the frustration that exists.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And we had someone that wrote in asking do we
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: actually believe this? Said that LaMelo trade was good just
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: because people like Bill Simmons and Zach agree with it.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Well, my innswer to that was no.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Like I sent out a tweet after we got off
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the air that day that disagreed with the trade and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the value that Jeff Peterson got back, And that's what
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: led Terrence Oglesby, who joined us twenty minutes before I
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: sent the tweet out, to subtweet me and say that
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: my opinion was wrong. But I don't think they maximized
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the return of LaMelo. I you want to trade him away,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you could sell me on that being the right decision,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but I don't think that they got the most back
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: for him for someone that has been an All Star
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: before and was a borderline All NBA NBA player. The
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: timing of the LaMelo trade made no sense considering it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: was post the first round of the NBA Draft. Like,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: had they made the deal on Draft night, Bone and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: they shipped him to Sacramento and they would have gotten
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: inside the top ten, whether they drafted guard or maybe
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: they would have drafted more s Johnson.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I think we would have been okay.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: This was maybe the first move that Jeff Peterson was
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: willing to take a swing on to set this franchise
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: up for long term. The fact that that deal came
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: after the first round of the draft, and then the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown trade happens, and you weren't involved, and you've
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: still got the largest trade exception in NBA history sitting
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: there at your disposal.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I think it does.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I understand why the Hornets fans are frustrated with the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: GM trading away. If he enters next season, it's prayed
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: to ankle immediately. Then the value gets tanked again and
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: they'll never get back that value. I agree with something
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: that Matt in Greensborough said on the text line, and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: some people may get mad at this, but it's fine.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're similar players. Wamelo has a certain flare,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a shot creation. He does a lot of different stuff
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: than Kobe White. But Kobe White is a heck of
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a player in his own right. I don't think some
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: insane drop off from Kobe White to AA mellow Hell.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: That Miami game last year, that game in the in
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the postseason last year, or the playing last year, Kobe
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: White was hitting shots that were absurd. So I'm not
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: saying they're similar.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Well, mellow better overall for different things, but I don't
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: think there's some ridiculous oh my god, Kobe White's the
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: point guard now. I think Kobe White can hold his
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: own here as well.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: He's been a huge fan of Kobe White, even when
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: he was at UNC. He's one of those guys that
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I thought, Man, I'd love for him to be on
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: my team, right, Yeah, honestly I love that dude.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: We're good.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna need to see an extended period of time
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: with Kobe healthy to really compare the per one hundred
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: possession stuff.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was not He was not himself for
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: much of that run by. He was rubbing the hamstring
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: with the with the roller. Why he he was definitely
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: compromised himself last year.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But I do think I mean, considering how much they
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: paid him, We're talking about a seventy four million dollar
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: contract over three years, so right under twenty five million.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: The Hornets feel that same way because I thought that
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: had the price tag got to twenty five millie, I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been willing to pay him that. But they're
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: willing to pay him that because I think they think
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: he's gonna have the same impact. I think, Look, they're
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: still in a really good position. They're right up there
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: with OKC in terms of having the most valuable last
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: sets of any team.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: In the NBA. It's just when are they go into
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: swing and swing big because.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: If you weren't willing to swing big for Jalen Brown,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and I understood that because I wouldn't have wanted to
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: trade away Brandon Miller.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Who is that player? Now?
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: In this league, one or two players emerge every single
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: year that went out of their situations.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: You're at the mercy of who gets to struggled now?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Right basically, so, man, maybe they have some intel that
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: isn't not on them, that isn't known yet that who
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: that next guy is gonna be. Donovan Mitchell just re
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: upped with Cleveland. Maybe it is Anthony Edwards whenever he
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: maybe forces his way out of Minnesota.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Now Carnthy Towns has a contract coming up too. But
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. If you would have told me this
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: before the playoff run, I would have said, yeah, he
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: he could be on the way out. I know that
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: you don't want him on the Knicks anymore, or you
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: wanted Giannis.
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: There, I would have made the move.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: But again, I don't think he's gonna come free. But
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: you never know.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Exactly, And it's just I do think what Jeff Peterson
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: has done has backed himself into a cornerbone that whenever
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: he does swing for the fences, he can't.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: He can't strike out like he's gonna have. He's gonna have.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: To make that move and make that move work to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: regain the trust, not of the NBA pundits, whatever's fan base.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Multiple people pointing out also the way this went down,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: we don't even fully know. Was the Mellow trade all
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Jeff Peterson or was that ownership that was tired of him?
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: The better hope it was Jeff Peterson is one.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Where the owners. I'm not saying he wasn't involved, but
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: this could be one where the owners said, we we're
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: not We're not doing this anymore. Whatever. I don't know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: but you wonder how much involvement did the two owners
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: have with Peterson, how much was on him to have
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to do something here because the owners. I don't know.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe something will come out about that in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: time when we come back. We talked ACC coach at
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: top of the hour. Now it's ACC quarterbacks. Where did
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: these quarterbacks rank in general college football quarterback question? Who
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: is most fired up to watch their quarterback play this year?
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  Speaker 2: four five seven h nine six ten. Quick change up
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  Speaker 2: here in this in this quick segment. Here, quick change
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  Speaker 2: up in this quick step. But that's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: quick their pal, We've talked a ton of college football.
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  Speaker 2: We just did Top of the eight o'clock hour, the
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  Speaker 2: on three Coaches List. We're gonna move the quarterback list
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  Speaker 2: back a little bit because you gave me some news
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  Speaker 2: that made my heart smile during the break. No, you
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  Speaker 2: did not score a date yet, but you did something
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  Speaker 2: yesterday I've been trying to get you to do for
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  Speaker 2: two years. Now, tell the audience what show was this
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  Speaker 2: for guys night? This was for guys Oh yeah, what
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  Speaker 2: show you started streaming last night?
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  Speaker 1: We've finally made our way. It's been a long journey
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  Speaker 1: to get here through Guys Night, because we've done Game
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  Speaker 1: of Thrones, we've done Breaking Bad, we've done Yellowstone Landman Sopranos.
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  Speaker 1: The last night we started Sons of Anarchy.
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  Speaker 2: There we go and.
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  Speaker 3: Only two episodes in.
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  Speaker 1: Because Hulu with ads really slows down the progress. But
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  Speaker 1: we're only two episodes in, and like my cousin told me,
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  Speaker 1: it might take a little while, like it might build.
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  Speaker 3: I did get there, like I knew after like the.
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  Speaker 1: Very first scene, now that show starts or the Mayans
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  Speaker 1: are are are blowing up the warehouse and stealing all
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  Speaker 1: the guns.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I'm it's uh, it's not Breaking Bad,
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  Speaker 2: but there's elements of that where it's nonstin like you
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  Speaker 2: don't You're never disappointed by an episode. It's constant action.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a little underrated when we start talking
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  Speaker 2: about some of the best shows ever. No, I absolutely
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  Speaker 2: love Sound of Anarchy.
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  Speaker 3: So and I think, I mean, maybe you could tell me.
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  Speaker 1: I think I've met every major character like pretty much already,
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  Speaker 1: like you got Jack's obviously tremendous Opie. My my cousin's
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  Speaker 1: wife is she's a big fan of Opie. Like at
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  Speaker 1: one point their dog was barking at him because you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's about to go do some badass stuff and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: we don't, we don't, we don't bark at we don't
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  Speaker 1: bark an Opie. It's very odd to think that that's
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  Speaker 1: Gary Bertier. That's another acting role that he took on.
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  Speaker 2: Is that role, doesn't it does anything like him? Until
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  Speaker 2: you realize that that's him for the Titans, you.
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  Speaker 1: Can I can kind of tell with some of the
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  Speaker 1: facial expressions. How about Jackson's ex wife by the way, Wendy, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Would love to know. I haven't watched it in about
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  Speaker 2: a decade, so some of it is coming back to
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  Speaker 2: me now, but yeah, I do remember you.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to know how much money that actress
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  Speaker 1: has made playing that same role, because she pretty much
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  Speaker 1: has the same role in The Sopranos where.
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  Speaker 3: She's on and off drugs.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm in and you've hyped this up a lot,
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  Speaker 1: but mac hasn't seen this one, right, is this one
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  Speaker 1: that's on the macro mission list? There as much cred
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  Speaker 1: as he gives you about Breaking Bad. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: him talking up Sons of an Arm. I know he's
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  Speaker 1: watched Buns of Anarchy. That's a completely different show on
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  Speaker 1: a different platform. What's not get into his browser history there?
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  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't think he has.
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  Speaker 2: What are some other streaming recommendations people currently have, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's new shows or just great show seven oh four, five,
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  Speaker 2: seven oh nine, six ten. You have seen Ozark, right?
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  Speaker 2: I have not? Well, that's got to be next for
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  Speaker 2: you after that. Yeah, Ozark is great too. That was
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  Speaker 2: you know, Jason, I enjoy am Well, this is this
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  Speaker 2: isn't those are?
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  Speaker 1: Is?
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  Speaker 2: One of my favorite shows ever?
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  Speaker 1: Was that big during the pandemic? Was that when that
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  Speaker 1: show really caught of.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's when it ended during the pandemic. So the
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  Speaker 2: last season came out right when the world was shutting down,
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  Speaker 2: so everyone kind of caught up and watched it during
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  Speaker 2: that time period. I think that's what it was. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but my memory is in a fog of one.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly it ended there.
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  Speaker 1: Someone wrote it that I'm gonna get some tattoos. If
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the needle, I would I'd have tattoos, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I I know, and jacket Sons of Anarchy made
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  Speaker 2: me want to join a biker gang. Honestly, that's the
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  Speaker 2: only time I ever thought I could do this. I
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  Speaker 2: could be the enforcer in a biker gang. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what name I would choose, like, I'd probably be
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  Speaker 2: like Sledge or something. But I'm pretty sure that Tancocks
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  Speaker 2: sounds like a guy that's seen some you know what
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  Speaker 2: in life. Sending your recommendations. We know, breaking bats in
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  Speaker 2: all time, and that's a. That's a big show here
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  Speaker 2: on the on the Uh, that's a big show on
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  Speaker 2: the show. Some current shows. Uh, Your Friends and Neighbors
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  Speaker 2: is really good on apple TV. That's a John Hamm
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  Speaker 2: vehicle in Olivia mons in there as well. That's a
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  Speaker 2: I didn't like season two as much as season one,
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  Speaker 2: per se but it's still worth worth watching it. It's
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  Speaker 2: uh two seasons in. It just wrapped up season two.
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  Speaker 2: Apple TV. Their hit rate is about ninety nine percent.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching Severance right now as well. Yeah, their bat
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  Speaker 2: in mind, My mind is in a spinning because of
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  Speaker 2: that show.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Right now, they're battling like Ted Williams. They're batting four hundred.
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  Speaker 1: I do have to find because I'm still making my
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  Speaker 1: way through mad Through mad Men, the World Cup has
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  Speaker 1: really slowed down my my progress. Once it's done, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be able to get back to my mid TV watching.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, usually this is my catch up time of the year,
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  Speaker 2: but you're right, the World Cup is taken away a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of that.
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  Speaker 1: So I do have to find the next show for
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  Speaker 1: Like for me on the side when I go home
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  Speaker 1: and just kind of relax because like Walker will always
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  Speaker 1: tell me, Man, it takes you a while to get
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  Speaker 1: through a show. But like when I go home and
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  Speaker 1: like my mad Men viewing is like one or two
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  Speaker 1: episodes at Max a day.
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  Speaker 3: Like, it's not the kind of show that I veg
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  Speaker 3: out to.
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  Speaker 2: You can't. You got to really lock in on mad Man.
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  Speaker 2: It's like Peaky Blinder, you really got to focus so good.
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  Speaker 1: That's I got really exposed to John hamm because I
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  Speaker 1: thought he was really, really good. I think he's tremendous
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: in the Morning Show, which what made me go back
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  Speaker 1: and watch Bad because I was like his first real
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  Speaker 1: big I might just go through another John ham vehicle
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  Speaker 1: because he was tremendous in Land Man. I loved him
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: in that so I might do your friends and neighbors
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: because it's only two seasons, something very quick and very
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: brief to give me the football season.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Look, I don't want the test line to call me
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Sledge right now, but it's going on right now, Fitty,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: So maybe that's maybe that's my new What if you
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  Speaker 2: came back, Matt comes back and I'm just going by
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  Speaker 2: Sledge and I've joined a biker gang.
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  Speaker 3: This could get dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: But seven oh four five, seven oh ninety six ten,
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  Speaker 1: what would Bone and I's biker names be. It's a
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  Speaker 1: great question, and we could and we could start the
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  Speaker 1: show on Monday when you address me in the Good
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  Speaker 1: Morning open to the show as my biker name. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and Mac would just be even more confused than he
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  Speaker 1: normally is. You'd be Shine, I think because your head
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  Speaker 1: shine Seane Marlowe. That's Shine headcock and Seine Marlowes.
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  Speaker 2: God, Shine marlow is a bad ace. It's not bad Shine, Marla.
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  Speaker 2: You kidding me? Swedgend Shine show Sledge and Shine in
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  Speaker 2: the Mornings.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't even eat the text line. We just you
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  Speaker 1: did it right there on your own Sledge, Shine.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: I may have let you down on something here. You
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: asked about the the characters in uh, Sons of Anarchy.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: You know who plays the sheriff, right?
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know it's my it's my man's.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Taylor Sheridan's a sheriff.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Yep, And Uh, I can already tell not gonna lie
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  Speaker 1: Kim because you see him confronting Jack's uh in the
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  Speaker 1: second episode.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think. I don't go.
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  Speaker 1: I'mna Michael Oh Taylor Sheridan this vertue. I love the
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  Speaker 1: shows that he writes.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: There's a couple coming in here that I don't know
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: the premise. What is Silo on Apple about? We know?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard and justified? What's justified about?
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Justified?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Uh?
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Didn't he win the triple crown?
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: So it's about a horse? No?
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I thought making a sports check.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I thought you were being serious. See that shine humor?
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: You never know where it's coming from. People said you
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: can't have the name, you can't have the name Sledge
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: and not No, how to face your windshield wipers?
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Did you go get those fixed? By the way?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: No? No, I haven't yet. No, well, because I only
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  Speaker 2: noticed that when it rains, you know what I mean?
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't think about him nless it rains outside,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: that's a fair point. So when it rains, I'll go, oh,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I got it. Swetch has to get his wipers done,
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and then you know it doesn't rain. Sledge is backed
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  Speaker 2: up there all right. Oh my god, someone said you
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  Speaker 2: our biker names are boneless and scoreless. Someone's calling you
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  Speaker 2: cupcake as your biker name. You're not cupcake. It's not
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  Speaker 2: a biker name. All right. When we come back here
• 44:15
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• 44:17
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• 44:22
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