Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / Boy, I Tell You...You've Got Nerve (S2 E7, "Like Mother, Like Daughter")
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I Am all In, All I Am all In with
- 0:18Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and I Heart Radio podcast. Hey everybody, it's
- 0:21Speaker 1: Scott Patterson and this is the I Am All In
- 0:24Speaker 1: Podcast with I Heart Radio and one of eleven productions.
- 0:26Speaker 1: And so listen, everybody, We've got a special guest, uh synopsis, sir,
- 0:34Speaker 1: coming in today to to stand in not permanently, but
- 0:38Speaker 1: Riley's a little under the weather. She's been brave enough
- 0:42Speaker 1: and courteous enough and courageous enough to come on today
- 0:46Speaker 1: to hand it off to the the very capable Danielle
- 0:50Speaker 1: Romo to do the synopsis. So Riley, go ahead and
- 0:53Speaker 1: hand it off in your inimitable style to Danielle. I
- 0:57Speaker 1: just have to say, you guys are in great hands
- 0:59Speaker 1: to it with Danielle. She's going to give you the
- 1:01Speaker 1: most beautiful synopsis you've ever heard. So Danielle, take it away.
- 1:06Speaker 1: I am so nervous. Okay, Season two, episode seven, Like Mother,
- 1:11Speaker 1: Like Daughter, Air date November two, and here's a synopsis.
- 1:16Speaker 1: Rory realizes she is perceived as a loner, and her
- 1:20Speaker 1: reluctant efforts to socialize Lander in the most popular click
- 1:24Speaker 1: at Chiltern while Laura LII volunteers the inn as a
- 1:27Speaker 1: venue for children fundraising fashion show, and it's horrified to
- 1:31Speaker 1: find herself modeling matching outfits with her mother, Emily. How
- 1:36Speaker 1: did I do? That was darn respectable? I said, it's
- 1:41Speaker 1: pretty darn good, Riley, and can go back to bed
- 1:44Speaker 1: and don't be sick for too long, because this Danielle
- 1:48Speaker 1: romo has potential as a synopsis. I'm coming. I don't
- 1:52Speaker 1: know about that, but I'll tell you that was pretty tight.
- 1:56Speaker 1: I'm very impressed. It was amazing a little Nike. Well,
- 2:00Speaker 1: um right, you're gonna conk oh. You know I can't
- 2:04Speaker 1: stay away from on lin for too long. Alright, alright,
- 2:06Speaker 1: I feel better. We are going to break down Like Mother,
- 2:10Speaker 1: Like Daughter, Season two, Episodes seven. What an episode. I
- 2:15Speaker 1: think Amy and I are gonna lock horns on this
- 2:16Speaker 1: one this week. We're gonna lock horns big time. I
- 2:20Speaker 1: love this episode and I love you in it. But
- 2:23Speaker 1: that's look that that's great and I appreciate it. Um
- 2:30Speaker 1: I thought it was. I don't know. Was it a
- 2:32Speaker 1: little awkward for you at the top? Was it a
- 2:34Speaker 1: little forced and a little pushed and everything about this
- 2:38Speaker 1: whole episode. I laughed hysterically the whole time at the
- 2:41Speaker 1: top of the episode though, So, I mean you told
- 2:44Speaker 1: me that. You told me that. Uh, when we were
- 2:47Speaker 1: going back and forth during the week, which we do
- 2:49Speaker 1: a lot, you said, I love this episode. I can't
- 2:51Speaker 1: stop laughing. And I thought, is she talking about the episode?
- 2:55Speaker 1: Because I watched the episode last night and I didn't
- 2:59Speaker 1: really laugh until Michelle came on. Yeah, the jokes, the
- 3:04Speaker 1: jokes didn't land with me. In the beginning, between mother
- 3:07Speaker 1: and daughter, it just seemed like they were doing stick
- 3:11Speaker 1: It just seemed like it just didn't seem like it
- 3:13Speaker 1: was real or acting or it was just it felt
- 3:15Speaker 1: a little sticky to me. And then Michelle came on
- 3:18Speaker 1: and he did his thing about you know, I'll do
- 3:21Speaker 1: this favor for you if you get me a cheese,
- 3:23Speaker 1: American cheese and a Marine cookie and the cookie, and
- 3:27Speaker 1: that's when I finally laughed. You know, that was pretty
- 3:30Speaker 1: early on. Yeah, I started cracking up by the time,
- 3:36Speaker 1: you know, Headmaster Charleston was telling Rory to get some friends,
- 3:41Speaker 1: and then all that with Laurea la and then she
- 3:43Speaker 1: has to join the Boosters and then you I mean,
- 3:47Speaker 1: I'm going so fast, but I was dying laughing when
- 3:50Speaker 1: the fashion show runaway still thing, and she says I
- 3:56Speaker 1: loved her work in Pizza but m M, no, great,
- 4:00Speaker 1: there were some great lines. It's just the whole thing
- 4:03Speaker 1: just seemed a little I don't know, there was just something.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Oh my god, you didn't love the end the in
- 4:11Speaker 1: the diner, so not the very very end, but the
- 4:13Speaker 1: end with you and Lora Lee going back and forth
- 4:16Speaker 1: about Eva the booster Mom. But I think it was
- 4:22Speaker 1: very predictable. I thought that was very, very predictable. That scene,
- 4:26Speaker 1: of course, was inevitable. There's there's there's a difference between
- 4:29Speaker 1: inevitable and predictable. Um, I just knew it was coming
- 4:33Speaker 1: without a shadow of a doubt. I don't want to
- 4:36Speaker 1: know that it's so on the nose that it's coming.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I'm being too critical. I'm in a critical mood. And
- 4:45Speaker 1: it's fine. It makes for great conversation. But I loved
- 4:48Speaker 1: it from the moment that Brenda Strong, who played this
- 4:52Speaker 1: single booster Mom, says you're cute and musclely and strong
- 4:57Speaker 1: or whatever, and Lora La is immediately like w TF,
- 5:01Speaker 1: Like I don't like this at all. She doesn't even
- 5:04Speaker 1: know why. Correct, But that's what I love about, right,
- 5:08Speaker 1: I know her feelings are so deeply buried that she
- 5:11Speaker 1: doesn't know if I'm a friend or somebody she wants.
- 5:14Speaker 1: And then I think it's we're friends and she's not
- 5:18Speaker 1: aware of any feelings that she has, and they don't
- 5:20Speaker 1: come to the surface very often, and it takes some
- 5:23Speaker 1: kind of a situation. So you think I'm wrong about that.
- 5:27Speaker 1: I don't think she's not. She's not sitting around waiting
- 5:30Speaker 1: for me to ask her out, that's for sure. She's
- 5:32Speaker 1: not hyper aware that she loves you. But who says
- 5:36Speaker 1: to their friend, please don't date this person? Zero? People
- 5:41Speaker 1: say that if they don't have feelings for the person zero.
- 5:46Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But I think so here's okay,
- 5:49Speaker 1: here's what I'm I'm not struggling with it. But you know,
- 5:52Speaker 1: the realization that Luke and Laurela have the kind of
- 5:56Speaker 1: a flirtation that is already it's already. They've been married
- 6:00Speaker 1: for twenty years, and they're sick of each other. There's
- 6:03Speaker 1: so much familiarity, there's so much comfort between those two
- 6:07Speaker 1: that they just don't give it damn sort of, you
- 6:10Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's that yes, yeah, I'm gonna
- 6:13Speaker 1: go out whatever bum they're out and and and and
- 6:16Speaker 1: they can argue and he can get lose his temper
- 6:19Speaker 1: a little bit and she can lose her temper and
- 6:20Speaker 1: it's okay. There's such a grounded familiarity that it's like
- 6:25Speaker 1: they've already been married. They are the quintessential old married couple.
- 6:30Speaker 1: They are they are, they truly are, and that's how
- 6:32Speaker 1: they treat each other. It's just there's no but with love.
- 6:36Speaker 1: They're not nasty the scene right right, there's no like
- 6:42Speaker 1: we're not going to So it's so is it weird
- 6:45Speaker 1: with with these two Luke and Lorelai where there's a
- 6:49Speaker 1: there's no honeymoon phase? So we have we have, you know,
- 6:52Speaker 1: all of this familiarity and all of this. So we're
- 6:55Speaker 1: friends and it's sort of where we love each other
- 6:57Speaker 1: but we're not going to acknowledge it. And you know,
- 6:59Speaker 1: we're very are familiar with each other like friends punching
- 7:01Speaker 1: each other and they are that kind of thing and
- 7:03Speaker 1: getting mad at each other and then then we shift
- 7:05Speaker 1: gears and go into a honeymoon phase. Is that going
- 7:09Speaker 1: to be any phase? Maybe you're never going to have that,
- 7:12Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying if I haven't seen everything,
- 7:15Speaker 1: because it's like a honeymoon phase is like fake and
- 7:19Speaker 1: who cares and it's just b s. It's like, these
- 7:22Speaker 1: two are so real. And I love that Luke pushed
- 7:27Speaker 1: back on her because a smitten guy like we kind
- 7:30Speaker 1: of know you are, would have been like, no, I'm
- 7:31Speaker 1: not gonna date her. Don't worry, I'm gonna date he
- 7:33Speaker 1: I'm not gonna date her. But instead you're like, excuse me,
- 7:36Speaker 1: I'll date whoever I want. And it was just so baller.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And then she's like and you have this little fight
- 7:44Speaker 1: and then she's like everybody knows how you get back
- 7:47Speaker 1: to stars Hollow, like everyone. I mean, the whole thing
- 7:50Speaker 1: was so funny. That was good. It was good. But
- 7:56Speaker 1: you know who you can ask in the waiting room,
- 8:00Speaker 1: do you want to reveal who's here? Because you could
- 8:03Speaker 1: get some Really, she's here already. We didn't even get
- 8:06Speaker 1: to discuss the episode. We'll come back. We're gonna come back,
- 8:10Speaker 1: but it's fresh, I know, but this will this will
- 8:14Speaker 1: help it along. This is if you know, I have
- 8:17Speaker 1: to get to this. Where's this rundown? She's very impressive,
- 8:21Speaker 1: very she's like extremely She's got so much I can't
- 8:26Speaker 1: even read. Her resume is so long and so interesting.
- 8:28Speaker 1: I can't even get through it. It's like I keep
- 8:30Speaker 1: stopping going are you kidding me? Wow? Um let's anyway,
- 8:35Speaker 1: So we've got Brenda Strong coming on. And she played
- 8:40Speaker 1: Eva and uh like mother, like daughter, and she had
- 8:44Speaker 1: a couple of really great scenes. And I understand that
- 8:47Speaker 1: she is getting a note here that she's in the
- 8:49Speaker 1: waiting room. Can we bring her on? Hi? Brenda, how
- 8:53Speaker 1: are you doing? Good? Thanks for coming on and playing
- 8:57Speaker 1: with us. To Emmy nominations and to Screen Actors Guilds Awards. Wow.
- 9:04Speaker 1: All after we worked together, it was all what happens?
- 9:10Speaker 1: See what happens? You doing? I'm shoulders a little bit.
- 9:14Speaker 1: I'm good. Good. It's twenty years ago we did that thing,
- 9:19Speaker 1: and it seems like yesterday. She does funny because, of course,
- 9:25Speaker 1: you know, in preparation for this, I watched it again
- 9:28Speaker 1: and the dialogue just started coming back to me, and
- 9:31Speaker 1: all my cues started coming back to me. And it's funny,
- 9:33Speaker 1: how you know, as actors we store these things in
- 9:36Speaker 1: the recesses of our mind. And Amy Sherman Palladino's dialogue
- 9:42Speaker 1: is just so snappy, and I remember her telling me
- 9:44Speaker 1: what a fan of Aaron Sorkin's she was um and
- 9:49Speaker 1: and also you know, Lauren said that she loved Sports Night.
- 9:52Speaker 1: So I just felt like immediately they welcomed me into
- 9:55Speaker 1: that kind of amazing pattern, um, that they would have.
- 9:58Speaker 1: And and it was really fun to see the episode again, right,
- 10:04Speaker 1: that was a fun That was a fun episode. I
- 10:05Speaker 1: had little problems, but I felt it was a little
- 10:07Speaker 1: forced in the beginning between mother and daughter. It was
- 10:09Speaker 1: just getting a little sticky for me. Um. I went
- 10:12Speaker 1: on to lay back a little more on the acting,
- 10:13Speaker 1: but it was just so no no Laurel, Laurea, la
- 10:19Speaker 1: and Rory in the beginning, all the openings, the openings
- 10:22Speaker 1: are hard, you know, and they do them very well.
- 10:24Speaker 1: Sometimes they're a little off for me. I don't know,
- 10:26Speaker 1: I'm being too critical probably, but we also it was
- 10:29Speaker 1: early on. This was season two. Yeah, yeah, And I
- 10:33Speaker 1: think I think the problem, you know, I think that
- 10:35Speaker 1: really comes in with the volume of work that those
- 10:38Speaker 1: two had to do and feeling like they had to
- 10:42Speaker 1: be up, up, up all the time and getting the
- 10:45Speaker 1: note like, hey, maybe it's you know, it's just kind
- 10:46Speaker 1: of laying there. Can you up the energy and let's
- 10:48Speaker 1: drink some more coffee? And get some more. So I
- 10:50Speaker 1: think this is one of the times maybe they drank
- 10:52Speaker 1: too much coffee. Um and just in the beginning, though,
- 10:56Speaker 1: just in the beginning, I thought the rest of it
- 10:57Speaker 1: was masterful. But I'm here to break them down. So
- 11:02Speaker 1: how did you get the part? Do you remember the
- 11:04Speaker 1: whole process of that? And I don't. I don't remember
- 11:09Speaker 1: if it was just a straight offer. I had done
- 11:12Speaker 1: a series for Warner Brothers previously called The Help, not
- 11:17Speaker 1: the film to Help, but um, the short lived six
- 11:21Speaker 1: episode comedy to Help UM. And I think Warner Brothers
- 11:25Speaker 1: just knew my work and said you'd be great in this.
- 11:28Speaker 1: And I think Amy and you might work from Sports
- 11:31Speaker 1: Night and UM, I can't remember if I had already
- 11:34Speaker 1: done the pilot for Desperate Housewives. I don't think I had. UM,
- 11:39Speaker 1: So I think it was really just, you know, working
- 11:42Speaker 1: with Aaron Sorkin kind of gave me some kind of
- 11:44Speaker 1: stamp of approval. Um, because I don't remember auditioning for it,
- 11:49Speaker 1: and I usually remember them. I did a lot of them.
- 11:52Speaker 1: What about what about on set? Who'd you hang out
- 11:55Speaker 1: with on set? Do you remember? Um? I hung out
- 11:57Speaker 1: a lot with Lauren um. Uh, you know, I didn't
- 12:03Speaker 1: have much work with anybody else. I mean, it was
- 12:06Speaker 1: just that core group of boosters, UM, who I just
- 12:10Speaker 1: met basically, and then you. Um. It was funny because
- 12:13Speaker 1: I was watching an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm UM
- 12:16Speaker 1: this last season with Julie Bowen, and they were exchanging
- 12:21Speaker 1: secrets as a first state kind of warm up, and
- 12:24Speaker 1: one of his secrets was fast route to the Valley
- 12:28Speaker 1: from the West Side. And I was thinking about the
- 12:30Speaker 1: directions you gave me at the end of the episode, UM,
- 12:34Speaker 1: and and how you know, good directions are always hard,
- 12:40Speaker 1: but I don't you know, I think Lauren was very
- 12:42Speaker 1: warm with me. Um. You know, the whole the whole
- 12:46Speaker 1: fashion show thing. It was so funny because people just
- 12:49Speaker 1: assume because I'm tall, that I modeled, and of course
- 12:51Speaker 1: I haven't, but I can pretend I did, so UM.
- 12:56Speaker 1: I thought it was I think that what I remember
- 12:59Speaker 1: more than anything that episode was the tension of the
- 13:02Speaker 1: crew with the director. M I don't remember the crew
- 13:07Speaker 1: really enjoying the direction. And there were a lot of
- 13:11Speaker 1: There were a lot of cooks in the kitchen. Oh,
- 13:13Speaker 1: that may may have explained that opening. Yeah, there were
- 13:17Speaker 1: a lot of cooks in the kitchen on that something
- 13:19Speaker 1: was off, and I think the crew at one point
- 13:22Speaker 1: actually left a help wanted sign on his windshield circle.
- 13:28Speaker 1: It was really bad. It was really bad, and I
- 13:30Speaker 1: felt so bad for him because, as you know, you know,
- 13:32Speaker 1: guest stars and guest directors were guests. So our job
- 13:36Speaker 1: is to come in and do the thing like everyone
- 13:40Speaker 1: is normally doing the thing, but just add a little
- 13:42Speaker 1: extra spice. And I think I think there was just
- 13:45Speaker 1: and you know, it's certainly I have no idea if
- 13:48Speaker 1: it was any fault of his or if it was
- 13:50Speaker 1: just the chemistry thing. It wasn't quite jiding. You know
- 13:54Speaker 1: that that happens from time to time. It does happen.
- 13:57Speaker 1: I was on another series where we had somebody coming,
- 14:00Speaker 1: like a celebrated director come in on a single camera comedy,
- 14:05Speaker 1: and it just that there was so much tension and
- 14:09Speaker 1: it was just I had to sort of step up
- 14:11Speaker 1: and say, hey, you know, look, we do this a
- 14:13Speaker 1: certain way, and we like to block our rehearsals. It's
- 14:17Speaker 1: sort of, you know, we don't like to be told
- 14:19Speaker 1: where to go stand. It's not terribly professional. I'm glad
- 14:23Speaker 1: you have it all thought out, but we like to
- 14:26Speaker 1: be organic about it and like we'd like to discover it.
- 14:29Speaker 1: We'd like to discover exactly exactly pretty basic stuff. So yeah,
- 14:36Speaker 1: that can cause a lot of tension to Yeah, directed,
- 14:43Speaker 1: did you ever direct any of the episodes? Oh god, no,
- 14:47Speaker 1: oh no, they wouldn't let me near that show as
- 14:50Speaker 1: a director after a long run, you know, sometimes actor,
- 14:54Speaker 1: I don't think anybody ever directed any of those episodes.
- 14:58Speaker 1: No actors, No, oh I don't. I don't think so, Lauren. No.
- 15:02Speaker 1: I think if anybody was going to would have been,
- 15:05Speaker 1: but she didn't and she just had too much on
- 15:07Speaker 1: her plate. Maybe she wanted to, and she would have
- 15:09Speaker 1: been wonderful, but um god, I don't recall anybody directing.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I see this a lot where you know somebody sure
- 15:19Speaker 1: she Sure she did. I mean she would do three
- 15:22Speaker 1: or four a season for five season. Yeah, Dan would
- 15:26Speaker 1: to see exactly exactly They knew exactly what to listen for,
- 15:30Speaker 1: what the rhythm was, where the jokes were. I mean,
- 15:33Speaker 1: you can see it in the marvelous Mrs Maisel that
- 15:37Speaker 1: that signature of theirs is just so evident in the
- 15:42Speaker 1: work that they continued to refine and do so brilliantly. Um,
- 15:47Speaker 1: so you know you can you can kind of get
- 15:49Speaker 1: the voice early on in those years and how it developed.
- 15:55Speaker 1: It's funny because I went on and worked with the
- 15:57Speaker 1: costume designer Caroline Marks on Thirteen Reasons Why, and she
- 16:02Speaker 1: told me that she had designed Um the Father character
- 16:06Speaker 1: after her own father and had dressed him like she's
- 16:09Speaker 1: to see her father dress. So it's fun how you know,
- 16:13Speaker 1: these little threads of relationships kind of crossover. I'm surprised
- 16:18Speaker 1: we've never worked together again. It was a match made
- 16:22Speaker 1: in heaven, and there's you know, I don't get it either.
- 16:26Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I feel like my interest
- 16:29Speaker 1: in you kind of sparked her interest and started to
- 16:33Speaker 1: build that tension. As the years went on. I'm sure
- 16:36Speaker 1: you know you guys went through lots of incarnations of
- 16:40Speaker 1: the tension field of the romance we were We were
- 16:44Speaker 1: just discussing that aspect. Yeah, how we sort of treat
- 16:47Speaker 1: each other like we've been married for twenty years and
- 16:49Speaker 1: we're just kind of over it. We're so familiar with
- 16:52Speaker 1: each other, it's like way past the honeymoon phase and
- 16:56Speaker 1: we just don't I mean, I I think I wanted
- 16:58Speaker 1: more than she does. I'm more aware of it and
- 17:00Speaker 1: more conscious conscious of it, of my feelings for her
- 17:03Speaker 1: than she is a mind for me, because she's just
- 17:07Speaker 1: got so much on her plate and she's raising her
- 17:09Speaker 1: daughter and she's running me in and she's you know,
- 17:11Speaker 1: trying to cure her h im an empty nest syndrome
- 17:16Speaker 1: that she will experience. So she needs, you know, she
- 17:19Speaker 1: wants to have a life herself. So she's out there
- 17:21Speaker 1: trying to get it. And I don't blame her, but
- 17:24Speaker 1: I don't think I'm on her mind as much as
- 17:27Speaker 1: she's on mine. Um, And every once in a while
- 17:31Speaker 1: she needs that little reminder and she got it right. Um.
- 17:34Speaker 1: So you so you were part of the Booster fashion show. Um,
- 17:39Speaker 1: did you have any say in the dress that you
- 17:42Speaker 1: wore when you were going down the catwalk? Um? Not
- 17:48Speaker 1: that I recall, you know, So that was that was
- 17:53Speaker 1: all Brenda costume designer Brenda Maybe. Yeah, I didn't really
- 18:01Speaker 1: have a say in what I wore, just the fact
- 18:04Speaker 1: that it fit. And I think she wanted it to
- 18:06Speaker 1: be a little bit flashier so that the mother daughter
- 18:09Speaker 1: read suits, you know, the red dresses, kind of the
- 18:12Speaker 1: Nancy Reagan kind of matching suits would be a little
- 18:17Speaker 1: more staid. So it would make Lauren's character more uncomfortable
- 18:21Speaker 1: to have to wear that. Um, and certainly it was
- 18:25Speaker 1: much more flashy in order to gain your attention in
- 18:29Speaker 1: some capacity, to make her jealous, even though she didn't
- 18:34Speaker 1: quite admit to being jealous. Um. Yeah, no, I didn't
- 18:40Speaker 1: really have any saying that. So it was a very
- 18:42Speaker 1: short runway right, it was. It was y'all had to
- 18:46Speaker 1: milk it right and take short steps. Do you think
- 18:50Speaker 1: anything would have come of Luke and Eva if Laurla
- 18:54Speaker 1: hadn't said anything at the end? Oh, I think there
- 18:58Speaker 1: was definitely in ist. Um No, I don't think so.
- 19:03Speaker 1: I think you you probably you know, there's a lot
- 19:07Speaker 1: of people that just don't see what's in front of
- 19:08Speaker 1: them because their mind is somewhere else. And I think
- 19:11Speaker 1: you were already gone for her in some capacity, so
- 19:14Speaker 1: no amount of flirting could have um convinced you out otherwise. Um,
- 19:21Speaker 1: I don't know what you know. I don't know what
- 19:23Speaker 1: other interest would have been there. Clearly I was interested,
- 19:29Speaker 1: so I would have I think you put the kabash
- 19:32Speaker 1: on that, um, But um, what else was it going
- 19:37Speaker 1: to say? I wanted to talk about just overall how
- 19:42Speaker 1: much I love the fact that this show was centered
- 19:45Speaker 1: around women's relationships because so many shows are centered around
- 19:49Speaker 1: male female relationships, and the fact that it's intergenerational mother daughter,
- 19:54Speaker 1: and that it skips a generation and that the youngest
- 19:57Speaker 1: uh female in the family line is really the this
- 20:00Speaker 1: soul among them, um, and that this kind of rejecting
- 20:05Speaker 1: the generation that you come from, only to find it
- 20:08Speaker 1: it's full circle to come back again. Um. And also
- 20:13Speaker 1: the strength. You know, I love the fact that um,
- 20:17Speaker 1: strong women are a theme with her, and women trying
- 20:20Speaker 1: to find who they are and find their own voice
- 20:23Speaker 1: and be the individual that they are, regardless of the age. UM.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I just think it's great. UM. So I was happy
- 20:33Speaker 1: to kind of represent a certain stratosphere of that and
- 20:37Speaker 1: also be someone who's still obviously this is a woman
- 20:39Speaker 1: who has money, who has you know, her kids in
- 20:41Speaker 1: the right schools, and yet she's still looking for a partner.
- 20:44Speaker 1: So you know, it's just it was nice that the
- 20:48Speaker 1: show is driven by the women's voices, absolutely, um um,
- 20:52Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that, and that kind of led
- 20:54Speaker 1: to Desperate Housewives, which was all driven by the women's voices.
- 20:58Speaker 1: We're gonna We're gonna get to esperate Housewives for sure. Um,
- 21:02Speaker 1: well we'll get there. Um, so you have been on Cheers, Dallas,
- 21:07Speaker 1: Star Trek, twin Peaks, tell me that you're going way back.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Well you know, I mean, you've got an impressive list
- 21:14Speaker 1: of credits here. How did you get into acting? You know,
- 21:19Speaker 1: it's funny. Um, I started out as a dancer. So
- 21:24Speaker 1: when I was a kid, all of my siblings played
- 21:26Speaker 1: musical instruments, and my dad was a composer and my
- 21:30Speaker 1: mom sang, and so we were very musical, very literary family.
- 21:34Speaker 1: My both my parents, you know, we're highly educated. We
- 21:38Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of money, but we had a
- 21:39Speaker 1: lot of love and a lot of you know, books, music,
- 21:42Speaker 1: live music in the house, lots of books. Um. So
- 21:46Speaker 1: I started dancing as a as a young girl because
- 21:48Speaker 1: I didn't want to play an instrument that one of
- 21:50Speaker 1: my siblings already had picked up, because I knew I
- 21:53Speaker 1: probably wouldn't be as good. Um. The irony is I
- 21:56Speaker 1: eventually became a music major and got a musical theater.
- 21:59Speaker 1: So the dancing led me to singing, and the singing
- 22:03Speaker 1: and dancing led me to musicals, and I grew up
- 22:06Speaker 1: watching all the nineteen forties musicals and just loved old Hollywood.
- 22:13Speaker 1: But I grew up in the woods in the middle
- 22:15Speaker 1: of the Pacific Northwest, and I didn't know any professional actors.
- 22:19Speaker 1: I didn't know you could actually do that for a living.
- 22:22Speaker 1: I thought, well, that's what you do when you're going
- 22:24Speaker 1: to school to have fun. Um. But my dad was
- 22:27Speaker 1: a college counselor and he came to see me in
- 22:30Speaker 1: the Music Man. I was playing Marion and um, and
- 22:35Speaker 1: my sister, who's very dry, she's a doctor, she's, you know,
- 22:39Speaker 1: very cut and dry. Um. She was crying and my
- 22:41Speaker 1: dad looked over at my sister and he looked up
- 22:43Speaker 1: at me. He goes, there's something going on. She's really
- 22:46Speaker 1: good at this. So he basically said, you know, if
- 22:49Speaker 1: you want to do this for a living, I think
- 22:52Speaker 1: you you could. He gave me what's called a strong
- 22:55Speaker 1: vocational interest blank and I scored in the hundred percentile
- 23:00Speaker 1: of performing arts, and so he knew I'd be happy
- 23:03Speaker 1: doing it, and so I got that little extra push
- 23:06Speaker 1: that a lot of performers don't get from their parents,
- 23:08Speaker 1: and their parents tried to talk them out of it.
- 23:10Speaker 1: My dad just basically said, yeah, I think you're strong
- 23:13Speaker 1: enough to do this, and um. And then the Oregon
- 23:17Speaker 1: Shakespeare Company came through and Oregan Shakes performed at my
- 23:22Speaker 1: high school, and I went, wait a minute, you're not kids.
- 23:26Speaker 1: There's something to this. So I ended up getting a
- 23:29Speaker 1: degree in musical theater and later on during Shakespeare and
- 23:32Speaker 1: all of that, and my husband actually ran Shakespeare Santa
- 23:36Speaker 1: Monica for Nion eleven years. Um. Yeah, yeah, that was
- 23:43Speaker 1: how I started. That's interesting. So of all the characters
- 23:49Speaker 1: you played, which character you most like? Oh? I like
- 23:53Speaker 1: all my characters, even even the misguided evil ones. But
- 23:58Speaker 1: which one of you you most like? Oh? Which one
- 24:01Speaker 1: am I'm as um at the time? Probably Mary Alice,
- 24:10Speaker 1: I think. Um. I think I was very much Um,
- 24:15Speaker 1: a woman who took care of her friends and sublimated
- 24:19Speaker 1: her own needs for others. And Um, ironically had struggled
- 24:25Speaker 1: with infertility, which Mark Terry weirdly, uh intuited. He didn't
- 24:32Speaker 1: know I had. He just put it in the script,
- 24:34Speaker 1: and that became one of the main motives for me
- 24:37Speaker 1: to adopt this child that I ended up eventually killing
- 24:40Speaker 1: his mother. Um. And I haven't murdered anyone, so I'm
- 24:45Speaker 1: not like her in that way. But UM, I think
- 24:49Speaker 1: I think the loyalty that Mary Alice had, and the
- 24:52Speaker 1: soulfulness and the humanity and um, the desire to shine
- 24:58Speaker 1: light on on other people's humanity is probably the closest
- 25:02Speaker 1: to me. And you voiced over and narrated a hundred
- 25:06Speaker 1: and eighty episodes of that. Yeah, just a couple. Oh
- 25:10Speaker 1: my god. It's funny because people who grew up with
- 25:14Speaker 1: the show said that that they hear my voice in
- 25:16Speaker 1: their head narrating their life. Did this lead to a
- 25:22Speaker 1: lot of voiceover work commercial voiceover work? It must have.
- 25:26Speaker 1: It did initially, Yeah, it did initially. Um, but then
- 25:30Speaker 1: I found out that there were a lot of people
- 25:32Speaker 1: out there that were imitating me that we're cheaper to hire.
- 25:37Speaker 1: So they ended up doing that quite a bit. Um.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Well that there's got to be some like intellectual property
- 25:44Speaker 1: property theft cases there, I mean, right, I wish now,
- 25:50Speaker 1: I mean, can't you like send a cease and desists? Like, hey,
- 25:52Speaker 1: you know you can't. You can't copy me? That's me? Well, yes,
- 25:58Speaker 1: and but the care there is owned by Disney actually,
- 26:02Speaker 1: so I couldn't personally go after them for imitating Mary Alice. Um, right,
- 26:08Speaker 1: they owned the character. Yeah, but that's your voice, I know.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I know, and my Weirdly, my voice has always been
- 26:17Speaker 1: the thing that's most recognizable. And I don't know if
- 26:19Speaker 1: it's because I was a singer or there's a certain tonality,
- 26:22Speaker 1: but early on in my career, people would say that
- 26:25Speaker 1: they'd be in their kitchen and they'd hear my voice
- 26:28Speaker 1: on a commercial and they know it was me and
- 26:30Speaker 1: they'd come in. So there's something, there's something in the
- 26:33Speaker 1: tonality that that resonates with people. I don't know what.
- 26:38Speaker 1: Don't question it, it works, you know. I met Mark
- 26:42Speaker 1: Cherry on something he did. What was the series he
- 26:44Speaker 1: was doing after Desperate? Did he did something after Gid? Yes?
- 26:49Speaker 1: And I met him on that and I mistake. I thought,
- 26:55Speaker 1: who's the guy who created American Beauty of the film? Oh?
- 27:00Speaker 1: That was Alan Ball. I thought that Mark Cherry was
- 27:04Speaker 1: Alan Ball for some reason, and I started w Ele
- 27:09Speaker 1: went on to do six ft under the Lauren had
- 27:11Speaker 1: done right. So I was going on and on in
- 27:14Speaker 1: the meeting. I was going on and on about American
- 27:16Speaker 1: Beauty and talk about being unprepared for a meeting. Uh
- 27:24Speaker 1: and uh. He looked at me and goes, what are
- 27:27Speaker 1: you talking about? At least he said it I should well,
- 27:35Speaker 1: didn't you create didn't you write the um American beauty?
- 27:40Speaker 1: He goes No, said Jesus, I'm sorry. You know, I
- 27:45Speaker 1: really I appreciate the fact that that's what your brain did,
- 27:49Speaker 1: because there are certain things in American beauty that are
- 27:52Speaker 1: very much like Desperate Housewives, like the roses in the
- 27:56Speaker 1: bath water, the red apple, like there's a there's an
- 28:01Speaker 1: Americana assion to American beauty that's that kind of hidden
- 28:06Speaker 1: behind the garage doors. There's a lot of vida stuff
- 28:09Speaker 1: going on. I totally get why your brain did that, right,
- 28:12Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't take it. He didn't take it
- 28:15Speaker 1: as a compliment. He did not take it that way. Well,
- 28:20Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because Mark hadn't seen any of
- 28:23Speaker 1: my work before I got Desperate Housewives either, so you
- 28:26Speaker 1: know you can't really he said, oh yeah, I saw
- 28:29Speaker 1: you on a CSI episode and it was like, I've
- 28:32Speaker 1: been working for thirty years. Okay, see, but that's what
- 28:36Speaker 1: it takes. Yeah, you know, it's like if you if you,
- 28:39Speaker 1: if you have this massive body of work, maybe somebody
- 28:42Speaker 1: will see the right thing one time. You know. It's
- 28:44Speaker 1: like it's just it's amazing. And now with the amount
- 28:47Speaker 1: of content out there. I mean, there are people who
- 28:50Speaker 1: are in the seventh year of a season of something
- 28:52Speaker 1: that I've never been watched, and I'm like, wow, right,
- 28:57Speaker 1: they're celebrating their hundred and fiftie episodes like I had
- 29:00Speaker 1: no idea. I wasn't even aware of the series. There's
- 29:02Speaker 1: so much contract good God, there's like hundreds and hundreds
- 29:05Speaker 1: and hundreds of television series. Did you know how big
- 29:15Speaker 1: the show would become when you began a Desperate Housewines?
- 29:18Speaker 1: Did you did you have an inkling? You know? It's
- 29:21Speaker 1: funny because Oprah asked me that same question because she
- 29:25Speaker 1: had done a little special upon the Lane, and she said,
- 29:28Speaker 1: you know, did you know it was going to be
- 29:30Speaker 1: this big of a hit? Would you have killed yourself
- 29:32Speaker 1: if you knew it was going to be such a
- 29:34Speaker 1: big And I said, no, of course not. I would
- 29:36Speaker 1: have called suicide hotline. I could have talked to my friends.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Um I had an inkling. Uh that that other series
- 29:44Speaker 1: on Warner Brothers called The Help that I was doing
- 29:48Speaker 1: was I was actually tied contractually to that when they
- 29:51Speaker 1: did the original round of auditions and casting for Desperate Housewives,
- 29:56Speaker 1: So I wasn't available for the original casting. UM. But
- 30:00Speaker 1: then they recast a couple of characters and one of
- 30:03Speaker 1: them was Mary Alice Young because they wanted a a
- 30:08Speaker 1: little bit more of just a different voice than than
- 30:13Speaker 1: the original cast person cast had. And I was actually
- 30:18Speaker 1: doing Shakespeare up in Montana at the time. And I
- 30:21Speaker 1: got the audition and my my managers and my agents said,
- 30:24Speaker 1: we've heard really good things about this pilot, like this
- 30:27Speaker 1: is the pilot that everyone wanted to get last season,
- 30:31Speaker 1: and would you be willing to fly down here for
- 30:34Speaker 1: an audition? And um, you know this is before we
- 30:39Speaker 1: ever put ourselves on tape for anything, um pandemic, before
- 30:44Speaker 1: all of that technology. So I said, yeah, I'm in
- 30:47Speaker 1: the middle of you know, rehearsals, but I could fly
- 30:50Speaker 1: down for an audition and um. And so they got
- 30:55Speaker 1: me the audition and I did. And I walked into
- 30:58Speaker 1: the room and Mark Jerry was sitting there with Scott
- 31:01Speaker 1: Jenkin jer and um Jinny Lowry Johnson and you know,
- 31:05Speaker 1: all the all the people that were involved with the
- 31:08Speaker 1: show at the time. And he said, I hope you
- 31:11Speaker 1: don't mind that I'm going to close my eyes and
- 31:12Speaker 1: just listen to you. And I remember a girl coming
- 31:16Speaker 1: out of the audition before I had gone in, and
- 31:18Speaker 1: she said, Oh, they're so nice. They don't even you know,
- 31:22Speaker 1: don't worry about having it memorized because they all have
- 31:25Speaker 1: their eyes closed. And I thought, oh, no, I'm going
- 31:30Speaker 1: to have it memorized because this is still a performance.
- 31:35Speaker 1: And so um, they closed their eyes and I just
- 31:38Speaker 1: took them on a journey, um like, my name is
- 31:41Speaker 1: Mary Alice Young and did the whole thing. And afterwards
- 31:44Speaker 1: Mark opened his eyes and he just looked at me
- 31:47Speaker 1: and he said, how long is your contract for for
- 31:49Speaker 1: the Shakespeare Company? And I thought, oh, that's a good sign.
- 31:53Speaker 1: And I said, well, I made them get me an
- 31:55Speaker 1: understudy because I had a feeling something like this would
- 31:59Speaker 1: happen good And he said, we'll be in touch. And
- 32:02Speaker 1: then I flew back to do opening night at Midsummer's
- 32:06Speaker 1: because I was doing two shows. I was doing Summers
- 32:08Speaker 1: and Much of You about Nothing, and I didn't even
- 32:11Speaker 1: get to to Mount much Ado. Fully we were doing
- 32:16Speaker 1: in Rotation and I had to leave before we had
- 32:19Speaker 1: an opening night for that one, and do the pilots.
- 32:22Speaker 1: When it happens when you're the most busy, right, Well,
- 32:26Speaker 1: they say, plan a vacation this was a vacation that
- 32:31Speaker 1: wasn't really a paid job. It was just something from
- 32:33Speaker 1: my soul. Um. You know. Every so often Mary Alice
- 32:38Speaker 1: would be on the screen. Another time she was a
- 32:40Speaker 1: voice of with Terry Lane. Did you treat the character
- 32:42Speaker 1: of Mary Alice differently on an off screen? Was there
- 32:46Speaker 1: a difference? No? Um, Actually, it's it's interesting because I
- 32:52Speaker 1: had never you know, I'm an actor, I'm not a
- 32:55Speaker 1: voice actor. So I had to figure out how to
- 32:58Speaker 1: act this part because it had to be three dimensional
- 33:01Speaker 1: for me, um, in order to to bring life to it.
- 33:06Speaker 1: And for me, it was very interactive. Even though the
- 33:09Speaker 1: other characters couldn't hear me, Um, I was still very
- 33:15Speaker 1: much involved in shaping things with them, and so the
- 33:19Speaker 1: process was kind of interesting. We would do a table read,
- 33:22Speaker 1: just like you do with you know, most sitcoms, because
- 33:25Speaker 1: Mark had come from that that um, that pattern of preparation,
- 33:31Speaker 1: because you just want to hear your words out loud,
- 33:33Speaker 1: you know. UM. So we did the table read, they'd
- 33:36Speaker 1: go off to film and I'd go down to the
- 33:40Speaker 1: um Alfred Hitchcock Theater and I would record my voiceover.
- 33:45Speaker 1: And before I had done that, I would break down
- 33:47Speaker 1: all my beats, you know, all my intentions, what I
- 33:50Speaker 1: would want it to do with the line, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera,
- 33:53Speaker 1: And I do it kind of in the dark literally UM,
- 33:57Speaker 1: and then the cut would come in and it would
- 34:00Speaker 1: be UM, either the script supervisor's voice on the cut
- 34:05Speaker 1: or my voice that had been prerecorded kind of placed throughout.
- 34:09Speaker 1: And then I'd watch the episode again and I would
- 34:14Speaker 1: I'm so glad I got a music degree because I
- 34:16Speaker 1: would find the syncopatient and the rhythm of how to
- 34:18Speaker 1: tie the line in with what choices the other actors
- 34:22Speaker 1: had made. And sometimes my intention would totally change from
- 34:26Speaker 1: the basic you know, in the dark voiceover read to
- 34:30Speaker 1: them what they were doing. So it became very interactive
- 34:33Speaker 1: for me. I loved it. I had such a good time. UM.
- 34:37Speaker 1: And I remember Felicity Hoffman once saying, you know, because
- 34:41Speaker 1: Mark had her read the Mavo, they called it the
- 34:43Speaker 1: Mavo Mary Alice voiceover. UM had her read it one
- 34:47Speaker 1: time because I wasn't there, and she she came away
- 34:50Speaker 1: and she said, that's a lot harder than it was.
- 34:54Speaker 1: It was really sweet. It was really sweet that she
- 34:57Speaker 1: gave me the props on that, because you know people
- 35:00Speaker 1: though while you're just doing voice over. UM, so we're
- 35:05Speaker 1: gonna we're getting towards the end here of our time.
- 35:08Speaker 1: But I want to ask you one last well this
- 35:11Speaker 1: isn't the last question, but in this in this segment,
- 35:13Speaker 1: it is where would uh, in your opinion, Eva and
- 35:17Speaker 1: Luke gone on a date? Had they gone on a date, oh,
- 35:22Speaker 1: they probably would have thrown it in in um in
- 35:26Speaker 1: Lauren's face a little bit and gone to the like
- 35:29Speaker 1: the restaurant at Star Hollow or something, just to kind
- 35:32Speaker 1: of going going to the Independence in for for lunch,
- 35:35Speaker 1: maybe gotten really drunk, loud, got got TACKI and you
- 35:42Speaker 1: know a lot of p D A terrible terrible for
- 35:49Speaker 1: her to have to be at work. It would have
- 35:53Speaker 1: been a different series. But anyway, go ahead, totally different,
- 35:56Speaker 1: totally different. Um, it wouldn't have been as p g um.
- 36:01Speaker 1: I did want to say. I just came off of
- 36:03Speaker 1: something that I really loved that I'd love to plug.
- 36:06Speaker 1: Go ahead. First Street. It's a new series on AMC
- 36:10Speaker 1: written by Peter Moffatt who Did Your Honor and The
- 36:14Speaker 1: Night Of and I play a prosecutor opposite Courtney b.
- 36:18Speaker 1: Vance Man. I love that he's great, great, it's the best.
- 36:25Speaker 1: He's the best. I want to do everything with him
- 36:27Speaker 1: now everything. But but it's a socially relevant piece, particularly
- 36:32Speaker 1: what's going on kind of on the national level, and
- 36:35Speaker 1: I just can't wait for people to see it. What's
- 36:37Speaker 1: called again, listening, It's called six stret on a cd um.
- 36:42Speaker 1: It's a joint production with BBC. Alright, excellent coming out
- 36:45Speaker 1: in excellent, excellent. Well I wish you only the best
- 36:49Speaker 1: with that. Thank you very much, Scott. It's so nice
- 36:52Speaker 1: to see you again. We're not done. We're not done. No,
- 36:56Speaker 1: we've got it. We've got to do rapid fire. We're
- 36:58Speaker 1: doing rapid fire, nominate fire. Bunch of questions. If you've
- 37:02Speaker 1: you've got to rattle off the answers very quickly. You're
- 37:03Speaker 1: ready and have to go to have to jump quickly?
- 37:06Speaker 1: H no, no, no, yeah, here we go? Ready? Ready?
- 37:08Speaker 1: How do you take your coffee with? Can you smell snow?
- 37:15Speaker 1: Can you are your team? Logan, Jess or Dean? Do
- 37:20Speaker 1: you even know what that is? Wrong? Answer? But anyway,
- 37:28Speaker 1: we'll take that. Who's the who's the daddy? Who's who
- 37:32Speaker 1: knocked up Alexis? I mean Rory? She got pregnant? I
- 37:39Speaker 1: don't know. In the Netflix series. Yeah, I didn't see it,
- 37:44Speaker 1: did I? But I heard uh show that you are
- 37:48Speaker 1: binge watching right now? Oh the Morning showy, So you
- 37:56Speaker 1: can answer things, I know I could. I could talk
- 37:58Speaker 1: to you all day. Um, Brenda Strong, what a pleasure,
- 38:03Speaker 1: great catching up. Thank you, thank you, thank you for
- 38:06Speaker 1: coming on and all the best on sixty one Street
- 38:10Speaker 1: on AMC. Yeah. I hope it's I hope it's. I
- 38:13Speaker 1: hope it's a big hit for you and maybe we'll
- 38:17Speaker 1: talk real soon. Okay, thank you so much that. Thank
- 38:19Speaker 1: you so much, Scott, good to see you. Okay, good fun.
- 38:22Speaker 1: This is such a great show. Thank you doing. Thank you. Okay,
- 38:25Speaker 1: all right, bye bye, all right. Her, she was great. Huh.
- 38:34Speaker 1: She is the coolest, right, she does have She does
- 38:39Speaker 1: have that very distinct voice. You know. I think she mad.
- 38:43Speaker 1: I think she made such a good point. She did
- 38:47Speaker 1: push Luke and Lorela together a little bit. She does
- 38:52Speaker 1: have a soothing boy she does. It's it's like it's
- 38:55Speaker 1: bottomed down a little, a little lower register, but it's
- 38:57Speaker 1: still I don't know, a million dollars, they're just there's
- 39:00Speaker 1: just something so smart about it and so comforting and
- 39:05Speaker 1: so it's not pretentious. It's not pretentious. Yes, I agree,
- 39:10Speaker 1: it's warm, it's it's a it's a it's it's an
- 39:13Speaker 1: interesting combination of things that she brings with her. That's
- 39:16Speaker 1: her too. I mean people can't see, but her like
- 39:20Speaker 1: facial expressions are so comforting and she's so this just
- 39:25Speaker 1: kind enter. Yes, she's very soothing and healing and that's
- 39:30Speaker 1: what it is. Um. Anyway, we're gonna go into this
- 39:36Speaker 1: episode a little bit, aren't we. Huh? Yes? Do we
- 39:39Speaker 1: take a break and then come back and really start
- 39:41Speaker 1: going off? I think I don't need a break, but
- 39:43Speaker 1: if you need a break, uh, because I know one
- 39:46Speaker 1: of your yachts is listing in the dock and you've
- 39:50Speaker 1: got to call. You need to call Germany and get
- 39:52Speaker 1: that take care of. All Right, We're gonna take a break, everybody.
- 39:55Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these words. Yeah, Okay, we're back.
- 40:04Speaker 1: How did the call with Germany go? The yacht is okay?
- 40:06Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Properly? More? Everything's good? Okay, good?
- 40:09Speaker 1: Everything that's good? So did you There's a lot of
- 40:12Speaker 1: celebrity spottings in this episode. Nicole Eggart, she she's in
- 40:19Speaker 1: the episode. Yeah, she is, one of the Booster Moms
- 40:22Speaker 1: with Brenda and Madeline Ziema. She is the little friend
- 40:29Speaker 1: of Rory's that has the book at the end. Oh sure, sure,
- 40:34Speaker 1: sure she was an ex puff. She was. She was
- 40:38Speaker 1: in the like pick to be a puff. Oh she
- 40:41Speaker 1: was one of those, right, she wasn't a puff, she
- 40:44Speaker 1: was being puffed right, Yeah, and then she went on
- 40:47Speaker 1: to do her I loved her on Californication and she's
- 40:51Speaker 1: done a bazillion show. So those were a couple of
- 40:54Speaker 1: good spottings in there. Yeah. Um, So let's talk about
- 40:59Speaker 1: this episode a little bit. Uh um. I mean it's
- 41:03Speaker 1: an interesting setup, right, I really wanted the Rory puffed,
- 41:08Speaker 1: getting puffed and getting in that group to be an
- 41:10Speaker 1: episode of its own. I just I'm watching the episode.
- 41:15Speaker 1: I'm I want I latched onto that. I'm like, Okay,
- 41:18Speaker 1: I want to see where this goes. This is interesting.
- 41:20Speaker 1: Here's my question to you, though, Amy Danielle, please chime
- 41:25Speaker 1: in the thing that that that I don't get and
- 41:28Speaker 1: this just maybe chalked this up to seventeen year old knife. Hey,
- 41:32Speaker 1: what in the world is Rory doing helping Paris on
- 41:35Speaker 1: any level get into a club that if Paris does
- 41:39Speaker 1: get in is just gonna use it as a cudgel
- 41:42Speaker 1: against U. Why is she helping? It's like she's so smart,
- 41:49Speaker 1: she's such an old soul, as Brenda said, she is
- 41:53Speaker 1: just as real as it gets. Why all of a
- 41:55Speaker 1: sudden is she helping Paris? Why is she is? She?
- 41:58Speaker 1: Is she that compassed it a soul? Daniel? You you
- 42:01Speaker 1: go first? I have a thought, but you go first.
- 42:04Speaker 1: I think she just recognizes that she wants it so bad.
- 42:07Speaker 1: So she's just like if I mean, She's like, I
- 42:10Speaker 1: don't care about this, but if this girl cares really bad,
- 42:12Speaker 1: I guess I'll help her. Like I think it's just
- 42:15Speaker 1: one of those things that she's just feels kind of
- 42:19Speaker 1: bad and it's like if I can help, I'll help.
- 42:21Speaker 1: But she's already been burned by her once twice. Now
- 42:24Speaker 1: this is like third or fourth time she's going to
- 42:27Speaker 1: trust her again? So nice. I think that Rory has
- 42:30Speaker 1: so much confidence in herself and it's so nice and
- 42:33Speaker 1: sees that Paris is just this like hungry, desperate girl,
- 42:37Speaker 1: and she's like, you know what, I'm so cool that
- 42:39Speaker 1: I'm just going to help this girl. And I think
- 42:41Speaker 1: ultimately she's like, you know it's gonna be easier for
- 42:43Speaker 1: me if I'm friends with this girl. She's it's not
- 42:46Speaker 1: possible to be friends with her. She's a lunatic, she's certifiable.
- 42:50Speaker 1: She can't be friends with that. No matter what you do,
- 42:52Speaker 1: you cannot be friends with that. So obvious. I think
- 42:58Speaker 1: deep down she isn't mean, she just is so wanting.
- 43:01Speaker 1: I think I think no, I think deep down she
- 43:05Speaker 1: is extraordinary. I think she's far more evil, deep down
- 43:09Speaker 1: than we realize. Really, I don't agree, because you just
- 43:12Speaker 1: see it. When you can be you can be both.
- 43:15Speaker 1: You know, she's she can be vulnerable and sweet, and
- 43:17Speaker 1: there's that side of her. I mean, it depends on
- 43:19Speaker 1: which how life comes at you, that develops. But don't
- 43:23Speaker 1: you see it that Rory has the mom that told
- 43:27Speaker 1: her you're getting kidnapped. Put on these cute pajamas, put
- 43:31Speaker 1: on some lip gloss so that you look perfect. The
- 43:34Speaker 1: money's on the table. Harris doesn't barely have a mom.
- 43:38Speaker 1: She has like the nanny. She looks like Hell. I
- 43:42Speaker 1: guess it's got the bad nightgown and the great knowing,
- 43:47Speaker 1: knowing all this. Why are you trusting this girl? Why
- 43:50Speaker 1: are you talking her up to the puffs. She maybe
- 43:54Speaker 1: she just didn't realize at the well, no, I mean,
- 43:57Speaker 1: Paris let her know how powerful the puffs were and
- 43:59Speaker 1: how exclusive was. Maybe Roy just didn't realize the extent
- 44:02Speaker 1: of it, and it was like it was like, throw
- 44:04Speaker 1: this girl a bone like that she's going to use
- 44:08Speaker 1: against her. God, crush your skull with that bone. Didn't
- 44:12Speaker 1: you see how much it meant to Paris. I don't care.
- 44:15Speaker 1: She's she's not She's not redeemable in my book. I'm sorry,
- 44:19Speaker 1: that's so funny. I disagree. I feel like I feel
- 44:23Speaker 1: like this one the fans might disagree to. I might
- 44:27Speaker 1: be on your side. It's happened before. I feel like,
- 44:33Speaker 1: what's I mean? You gotta you gotta love Paris. You're like,
- 44:36Speaker 1: you know what, She's so sad. See, this is the
- 44:39Speaker 1: one time that I is Luke would sit down with
- 44:42Speaker 1: Rory and say, now, you can't do that. You can't
- 44:45Speaker 1: give your enemies any kind of ammunition to use against you.
- 44:50Speaker 1: And this is the ultimate form of AMMO getting her
- 44:53Speaker 1: into a powerful club, only to have Paris out Rory
- 44:58Speaker 1: from that club. And it's just a higher purchase destroyer
- 45:02Speaker 1: from I don't maybe where's Where's this didn't Laurel I
- 45:08Speaker 1: teach her any self preservation skills or any kind of
- 45:12Speaker 1: strategic skills. I mean, it's a chess game. But keep
- 45:15Speaker 1: your friends close, keep your enemies closer. Let's stick talk
- 45:21Speaker 1: to California. Go talk to that gay. Okay, can we
- 45:24Speaker 1: talk about But he's so good, he's going on for Paris.
- 45:28Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? She needs Yeah, she
- 45:31Speaker 1: needs a little talking to by somebody. I mean, you
- 45:34Speaker 1: can't just do that. I don't agree. I think Rory's
- 45:37Speaker 1: playing Paris perfectly, very risky. See, she's such a loner
- 45:45Speaker 1: that she doesn't care. It does It doesn't have any
- 45:48Speaker 1: power over She doesn't recognize if you don't recognize somebody's
- 45:52Speaker 1: power over you, if you're not playing those games, if
- 45:55Speaker 1: you don't see the consequences, because you don't believe that
- 45:57Speaker 1: those consequences have any meaning for you, and how what
- 46:00Speaker 1: you're the path that you're on, then I can see it.
- 46:04Speaker 1: That's you know, that's how you can advocate for somebody
- 46:09Speaker 1: like that and really not care. So maybe that's the case.
- 46:12Speaker 1: I don't know. I think each of these things she's
- 46:14Speaker 1: winning Paris over, and I think this meant a lot
- 46:19Speaker 1: to Paris, Well, that was everything. Yeah, I mean Paris's
- 46:23Speaker 1: face was just like I can't believe I'm sitting here,
- 46:26Speaker 1: and she mouthed thank you, or like, I can't believe
- 46:28Speaker 1: you did this. She mouthed that to or like. But
- 46:32Speaker 1: that was a great That was a great take when
- 46:35Speaker 1: for the first time she was sitting with the Puff
- 46:37Speaker 1: didn't know who they were in, Paris walked by, look
- 46:40Speaker 1: and then backed up. That was good. That was classic.
- 46:47Speaker 1: That was classic. So I'm going to admit something to
- 46:49Speaker 1: you guys again and I'm only doing it. I debated
- 46:54Speaker 1: this last night when I was like preparing for the
- 46:57Speaker 1: show if I was going to lie about this, But again,
- 47:00Speaker 1: I think it's important. Whoever is writing this once again
- 47:06Speaker 1: is accurate because in my high school we had a
- 47:11Speaker 1: sorority just like the Puffs in high school. Yes, the
- 47:19Speaker 1: only part I can't remember. And I actually texted a
- 47:21Speaker 1: friend is I couldn't remember how we got in and
- 47:26Speaker 1: my friend wrote back tapped and I'm like, what does
- 47:31Speaker 1: that mean? So we have the same thing and the
- 47:34Speaker 1: seniors picked the juniors or something like that. So I
- 47:38Speaker 1: think you were in it when you were a junior
- 47:39Speaker 1: and a senior and maybe you got tapped. That means
- 47:45Speaker 1: I am dead. It wasn't called the puffs ares not
- 47:48Speaker 1: a different name to get into ours? Wait you that
- 47:53Speaker 1: was in high school? Was that why you were streaking?
- 47:56Speaker 1: You admitted you you streaked. We streaked a school all assembly.
- 48:01Speaker 1: We had a street in front of the whole school
- 48:03Speaker 1: school in order to get in. And there was a
- 48:06Speaker 1: secret fraternity. Was I just not cool enough because I
- 48:11Speaker 1: have no recollection of this. Yeah, we had a secret sorority.
- 48:17Speaker 1: So you guys had a secret fraternity in high school street.
- 48:22Speaker 1: Did you get busted? I can't remember. Oh yeah, you
- 48:25Speaker 1: got away with it? Or you got busted? No, no no,
- 48:27Speaker 1: we got we got yeah, we got trouble. Yeah, you
- 48:32Speaker 1: were like you all got caught and you're all naked
- 48:34Speaker 1: or well, well, we ran across the football field. We
- 48:38Speaker 1: gained access through the woods. There was a hole in
- 48:40Speaker 1: the fence that boarded the football field. We ran across
- 48:43Speaker 1: the football field. We jumped at gate. That's where we
- 48:47Speaker 1: took our clothes off, and then we ran up. We
- 48:49Speaker 1: went up the outside stairs of the auditorium where they
- 48:51Speaker 1: where they where they had thetorium was an elevated stage
- 48:55Speaker 1: and we somebody had Jimmy the door and we ran
- 48:58Speaker 1: across the stage and that was like your initiation. That
- 49:01Speaker 1: was the initiation. And we turned around, we ran back,
- 49:03Speaker 1: We jumped over the fence again. We got our we
- 49:06Speaker 1: got our clothes on. We ran across the football field
- 49:08Speaker 1: and we went we went towards the pond, and by
- 49:10Speaker 1: the time we got out to the street, there were
- 49:14Speaker 1: We did not have to do something like that. Apparently
- 49:16Speaker 1: we were tapped, which I don't know what that means,
- 49:18Speaker 1: but I think we just were like picked and there
- 49:21Speaker 1: was like thirty girls that were juniors, and they got
- 49:25Speaker 1: to pick thirty sophomores, and then you were in when
- 49:28Speaker 1: you were a junior senior. That's kind of all I remember.
- 49:31Speaker 1: We didn't have to sneak into the school. There was
- 49:32Speaker 1: no bell ringing. Kidnapping does seem I have like a
- 49:38Speaker 1: weird recollection, like did that happen? I just can't remember.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Interesting microcosm for life though, and especially college and especially Harvard.
- 49:48Speaker 1: He had better get used to that kind of a thing.
- 49:50Speaker 1: And it really, gosh, it really just delineates between you know,
- 49:55Speaker 1: the loner mentality versus the joiner, right, and and how
- 49:59Speaker 1: important that is and and I so loved. My favorite
- 50:03Speaker 1: scene in the whole thing was Roy stood in the
- 50:05Speaker 1: pajamas and was just nailing um uh, the Headmaster. You
- 50:12Speaker 1: wanted me to be a joiner, I did it. And
- 50:14Speaker 1: now you're sitting here giving me a lecture about what
- 50:17Speaker 1: kind of trouble I'm gonna get into. I mean, are
- 50:18Speaker 1: you kidding me? And he just backed down. I love
- 50:20Speaker 1: that scene. She was good. She has such a good
- 50:24Speaker 1: head on her shoulders, and she is so geared for
- 50:26Speaker 1: success at such an early age that I don't know
- 50:29Speaker 1: how it all went wrong? Well, and what about the
- 50:32Speaker 1: parallel although different because when Lord La goes in to
- 50:36Speaker 1: see Headmaster Charles, he's like, you don't You're not involved.
- 50:40Speaker 1: You need to be involved. But she had a different
- 50:44Speaker 1: experience in that I think she sort of enjoyed it,
- 50:48Speaker 1: and she was so successful at what she did, and
- 50:53Speaker 1: it bonded Emily and Laura. I mean to me that
- 50:57Speaker 1: I laughed so hard at em doing her fashion modeling,
- 51:03Speaker 1: and I laughed. I watched that episode twice because I
- 51:06Speaker 1: love it so much. And then Laurel I looking at
- 51:09Speaker 1: her mom like, what in the hell are you doing? Okay,
- 51:15Speaker 1: But it spawned the most poignant line of the whole
- 51:19Speaker 1: episode when when Emily was so pleased and she says, interesting,
- 51:22Speaker 1: how you're fitting into a world that you ran away from.
- 51:26Speaker 1: I mean, just wow wow. Um. And it's true. You
- 51:33Speaker 1: do have to get involved. You have to get parents
- 51:35Speaker 1: have to get involved in their kids school. It's just
- 51:38Speaker 1: it has to be done. Um. And if you don't
- 51:42Speaker 1: do it, it's going to affect your kid in there
- 51:43Speaker 1: a percent, right about that, because you know, we're very
- 51:46Speaker 1: involved in our kids school. We have to be. We're
- 51:50Speaker 1: a little too involved. Well, I do see a turkey
- 51:54Speaker 1: drawing behind you. That's my that's my guy. That's my guy.
- 52:00Speaker 1: No parents do. It's true. And then it's that fine
- 52:04Speaker 1: line of like being that weird, freaky parent that's too involved,
- 52:08Speaker 1: or the lower lie that it wasn't doing anything. It's
- 52:11Speaker 1: that weird dance of yeah my mission. Yeah. They portray
- 52:17Speaker 1: this Stuffs super accurate, even though it seems high falutin.
- 52:21Speaker 1: It's like it's not. And I really you know, I
- 52:25Speaker 1: love those girls. I love the Puffs. That's the I
- 52:28Speaker 1: want to see that movie, The Puffs. I love the Puffs.
- 52:34Speaker 1: I mean that to keep up that level of dialogue
- 52:37Speaker 1: and snobbery, that's a film I want to see. I
- 52:39Speaker 1: want to see that. And yes, the ping ponging at
- 52:42Speaker 1: that table. I mean, I love when the girls like,
- 52:45Speaker 1: don't name is Lem And then she says to Rory
- 52:49Speaker 1: like interesting name and Rory's like, well, m can I say?
- 52:53Speaker 1: It's just like Rory is so like, I'm I don't
- 52:57Speaker 1: even care about you, fools, I'm not trying to impress you.
- 53:00Speaker 1: What can I say? Right? Um? Yeah? Very interesting episode,
- 53:06Speaker 1: very interesting? Um what else can we on earthen this? Yeah? Well,
- 53:12Speaker 1: I mean Luke. I think there's some real important stuff
- 53:15Speaker 1: here for Luke, because one is he comes with his
- 53:18Speaker 1: toolbox Burt to save the day when the you know,
- 53:23Speaker 1: runway is tilting, and I love that she says toolbox
- 53:27Speaker 1: dirty or whatever. Some there was some real quick line.
- 53:30Speaker 1: Why why is that line there? Why is she saying
- 53:34Speaker 1: how she Why is she saying this? You don't like
- 53:37Speaker 1: that line but I do. I love it? But why
- 53:40Speaker 1: is she saying it is okay? But why is the
- 53:45Speaker 1: Why is the character saying this to him? She's supposed
- 53:50Speaker 1: to not really be aware, according to my premise that
- 53:53Speaker 1: she has feelings for him. Why is she even saying
- 53:55Speaker 1: that to him? Because it's so like second nature to
- 53:58Speaker 1: her because she has has feelings. She's so utterly lost
- 54:04Speaker 1: patience with this guy, Like, get off the pot and
- 54:08Speaker 1: ask me out, pal, what's going on? Is that? What
- 54:11Speaker 1: it is? No? I don't think so. I think so
- 54:14Speaker 1: why the florty florty? Oh dirty? You know what is that?
- 54:16Speaker 1: Because you're like so cute and she likes like Luke
- 54:22Speaker 1: is a total babe, and so she's completely objectifying the guy. No,
- 54:29Speaker 1: she just likes you, but she's just not ready to
- 54:32Speaker 1: like go there yet. You don't have any relationships. Well
- 54:36Speaker 1: you're like a married guy now. But like so, there
- 54:39Speaker 1: are no other qualities that she covets about this character
- 54:42Speaker 1: other than you think he's cute. Everything about the end okay,
- 54:47Speaker 1: the loyalty, the friendship, suffering inside the guy she calls
- 54:53Speaker 1: for everything. Can you help me fix the runway? My
- 54:56Speaker 1: father's in the hospital. I need you, I need you
- 54:58Speaker 1: for this, I need you for this. Wants to help
- 55:00Speaker 1: you with Jess. Interesting Jess wasn't in this episode. But
- 55:04Speaker 1: how does a woman like that thinks that she can
- 55:06Speaker 1: even have a relationship with a guy like that? They
- 55:09Speaker 1: like they describe him in the beginning, is Mr Manos
- 55:11Speaker 1: Alabas positive. You think that's a positive. I mean, she's
- 55:16Speaker 1: the most verbal human being in the world, and here
- 55:19Speaker 1: I'm like, Luke, No, he's not. Yes. Look at the
- 55:23Speaker 1: scene at the end. He this is why she loves it,
- 55:27Speaker 1: because because he can spar with her when he wants to,
- 55:31Speaker 1: and he pushes back. He doesn't just go like we
- 55:35Speaker 1: talked about in the beginning of this episode. He doesn't say,
- 55:38Speaker 1: don't worry Lorala, like I'm not going out with her.
- 55:43Speaker 1: He lets her spin and pushes back like the nerve
- 55:46Speaker 1: of you to tell me who I can and can't date,
- 55:49Speaker 1: and doesn't whole think knowing full well he doesn't want
- 55:52Speaker 1: to date Eva, he wants Lorela. It's genius and it's
- 55:57Speaker 1: so real. I think these two piss each other off
- 56:00Speaker 1: in a way that love each other. But that's the love, right,
- 56:03Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get piste off unless you have
- 56:07Speaker 1: these deep feelings for somebody, you know what. They love
- 56:09Speaker 1: each other. In my opinion, they are completely who they
- 56:14Speaker 1: are with each other. They let they let they let
- 56:19Speaker 1: each other be who they really are. Yet they would
- 56:22Speaker 1: never be that vulnerable to say I really don't think
- 56:26Speaker 1: you should date this children mom with anybody else she
- 56:31Speaker 1: has to say, like, you know, I just think I
- 56:33Speaker 1: don't want to mix this with that, when you know
- 56:36Speaker 1: she's just she's not being totally raw and saying like
- 56:39Speaker 1: I'm going to be so jealous if you date her,
- 56:41Speaker 1: but she's still doing the thing to say, I really
- 56:44Speaker 1: don't think you should. So they're both confused as to
- 56:46Speaker 1: whether their friends or boyfriend and girlfriend like they It's
- 56:51Speaker 1: like there there's two lanes that they travel and they
- 56:53Speaker 1: sometimes they one is in the boyfriend girlfriend lane, the
- 56:58Speaker 1: other ones in the friendship lane, and there's a tench
- 57:00Speaker 1: right confused normal. I think most married, successful married couples
- 57:05Speaker 1: often start out this way, Danielle, did you and your
- 57:10Speaker 1: husband John, who I believe we're friends before you got married,
- 57:13Speaker 1: do this? Yes? And my husband John was very much
- 57:17Speaker 1: luke in this relationship where he had a crush on
- 57:21Speaker 1: me for a little while and then finally figured it out.
- 57:27Speaker 1: How did you go from friends to next level? Well,
- 57:32Speaker 1: this is just t m I whatever. He told me
- 57:36Speaker 1: he really liked me, and then I said, I'm so sorry,
- 57:39Speaker 1: you're just like my best friend. I don't want to
- 57:41Speaker 1: cross that that line. And then we were at a
- 57:45Speaker 1: club and some girl was flirting with him and I
- 57:50Speaker 1: and then it was it was out of a movie,
- 57:52Speaker 1: you guys, It was out of this episode of Guilt.
- 57:55Speaker 1: I really went into them on the dance floor, went
- 57:58Speaker 1: like this, turn to John and was like yeah, I
- 58:01Speaker 1: think I like you can we go on a date
- 58:04Speaker 1: and and then yeah, and now we're married. Oh my god,
- 58:12Speaker 1: from this episode, because Eva is the girl that you
- 58:15Speaker 1: saw flirting with your husband. Totally totally, I mean, how
- 58:22Speaker 1: how epic is the line when Laurel I says he's
- 58:25Speaker 1: talking to Luke about even he's all she goes. She
- 58:29Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that you don't make her, you know, gag
- 58:38Speaker 1: this one. This cred a whole scene, make her Mrs
- 58:42Speaker 1: Backwards baseball cap. I mean that whole scene. God, I
- 58:48Speaker 1: think I'm getting to the point where I want to
- 58:50Speaker 1: smack both of them and just oh that's so funny together.
- 58:54Speaker 1: I couldn't get together. No, I'm ready to keep it.
- 58:58Speaker 1: This is where the fans were losing their minds because
- 59:01Speaker 1: it's like it's enough already get together, and they still
- 59:04Speaker 1: have to We still have to wait a couple more
- 59:05Speaker 1: seasons for this to happen. Right, good good? I could
- 59:10Speaker 1: watch this. I could watch that talk about milk and
- 59:14Speaker 1: that can Mrs Backward Baseball Chap. I mean, it's that's
- 59:20Speaker 1: a lot of milk coming out of this cow. I
- 59:22Speaker 1: tell you they're milking that. Um. I love that Emily
- 59:26Speaker 1: Gilmore had a barbecue and those two go right for
- 59:29Speaker 1: the corn on the stick and are just like sitting
- 59:32Speaker 1: outside ready to just be stoked on their barbecue. It's
- 59:36Speaker 1: so good funny. And notice notice the wardrobe and now
- 59:41Speaker 1: that we're like all wardrobe Emily's wardrobe in that scene
- 59:45Speaker 1: with that caller on our shirt, totally very queen should
- 59:49Speaker 1: we act queenly? Very queenly? I feel like we have
- 59:52Speaker 1: to add something moving forward now our favorite fashion piece
- 59:56Speaker 1: of the episode, because hands down mine was gloralized blue
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: button down blouse. I even think I remember watching this
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: and twenty years ago trying to find this bloss and
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: it had like roughly sort of tuxedo e ish, kind
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: of seventies tuxedo e ish going down here and then
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: on the sleeves the cuff also had the ruffles and
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: it was light blue and button down with like pearl buttons.
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: In this episode, yes, I am obsessed with that shirt
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: she was wearing obsessed. Yes, everybody moving forward. You have
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: to pick your favorite fashion. No, for me, it's Emily's
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: white shirt with the that flared out collar because that's her.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: That that was you know that that harkens back to
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: you know, Scottish and British queens, that kind of look. Um, Danielle,
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: did you have a favorite, I'll say Rory's cake pajamas,
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: the Nick and Nora Nick and Nora pjs. Those were big.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: I wonder if they're still around. I want to that up.
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: Keep talking while I find out. And how many moons ago, Danielle,
- 1:01:06Speaker 1: was this this event that took place with your husband
- 1:01:10Speaker 1: on the dance floor with her? We've been together ten years?
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: Oh my god, ten years ago a long time ago. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: When we all realize we're just doing parts of episodes
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: of Gilmore Girls, we're all just living and somebody's taking notes,
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: it's not as easy to find Nick and Nora pajamas
- 1:01:36Speaker 1: as it used to be. Should we do a little
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: pop culture? Although I know it's going to be sad
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: for everybody because Danielle's filling it. Let's do everyone, No,
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: no, no no, your best shot. I'm gonna give it my
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: best shot. Don't write a bad review about me, Just
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: just don't. Don't try to look. Let me give you
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: some advice here, let me give you some advice. Don't
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: try to fill Riley's shoes. Just wear your own. Just
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: wear your own shoes as long as some of you,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: As long as you wear in your shoes, you're good.
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: Put in my own by all means, feel free to
- 1:02:15Speaker 1: write a review of Danielle's because I get so much joy. People.
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: I am reading all the Instagram comments and I read
- 1:02:23Speaker 1: all the reviews. I love all of it, especially when
- 1:02:26Speaker 1: you're like I hate Amy. Okay, here we go. This
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: is Danielle. Wait, hold on, noe, Hi, No, how does
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: Riley start it? I'm Danielle st Riley. Hi, I'm Riley.
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: She doesn't say she's day Okay, no, but Hi, I'm
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: Danielle filling in for Riley. And this is your pop culture. Okay.
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: Laura Lee says maybe he has a secret, maybe he's
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: got a little chippy stowed away in Mount Pilot. And
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: this is when Loraa Lee talks about Luke to Rory
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: in the diner. That's gotta be that's gotta be. Andy
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: Griffith show yep, I'm looking for I didn't even look,
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Mount Pilot is a fictional town
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: in The Andy Griffith Show. The Andy Griffith Show ran
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: on CBS from nineteen sixty eight. During the time of
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: the show, Andy has visited three times by the fun
- 1:03:19Speaker 1: Girls Skippy and Daphne. Each time they cause trouble. It
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: seems they are who Lorela is referencing to a little
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: bit of trivia. Ron Howard, who later became so wellknown
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: for being Richie Cunningham, played Andy Griffith's son on the show,
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: and his character's name was Opie. A little chippy is
- 1:03:38Speaker 1: not the most appropriate thing to say, so I'll just
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: put that out there. Who means it means a promiscuous woman,
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: little chippy? Huh? Who said? Who said that about? It's
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: that's what she says. She says, I think he's got
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: a little chippy in Mount Pilot? Is it Mount Pilot?
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: But that's what? So what It's okay, it's Laurela saying it.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: I know it's a little unappropriate. I don't know speaking
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: of a chippy. Mry says, suddenly, I'm living with Jaja
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: Gabor when a chippy kind of half chippy half chippy.
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: And this is when Laurela goes on about the batteries
- 1:04:24Speaker 1: and um, what she wouldn't do with them? So jo
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: jabar boys. Pause, Scott, let me tell you this. Danielle
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: and I had to practice saying with nine times what
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: at first daniel called her za yea. She was very
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: comark practice. She was extremely famous in the sixties and seventies.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: She was she was. She was a twin sister. There
- 1:04:54Speaker 1: was Joja and there was Eva, Hungarian bombshell sisters. Yeah,
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: they were hello, darling, they were on they were on
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they were on green acre. She was
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: on green acres. So that's what I was. That's what
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: I was trying to remember. I'm looking that up. She married,
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: it was Ava, married a farmer and she lived on
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: a farm. But she was like, you know, miss she
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: was fancy. She was fancy, Miss lux of the world.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Eddie Albert and it was Ava, not who was on
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: green acre, but yes, I knew it. Eddie Albert gave
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: one of the best dramatic dramatic comedy drama performances in
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: the Charles Groden's Civil Shepherd film called The Name Escapes Me.
- 1:05:44Speaker 1: But they did a remake of it. Only Charles Groden
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: film I can name. Is that one about the dog? No? No,
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: no, no no no. There was a movie where Charles Groden,
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: and we're getting off the subject here, but there's a
- 1:05:57Speaker 1: movie where Charles Groden gotten married, read to a woman
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: in New York City, went on her went on their
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: honeymoon to Florida, right to Miami, and he met an
- 1:06:08Speaker 1: eighteen year old Sybil Shepherd. Are you talking about Beethoven? No, no,
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: you're talking about Beetho. What's what's the movie? I'm talking about?
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: What's the name? Find the movie? I am talking about Beethoven.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: I think Charles Grodan died, so r I p God
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: rest his soul. But Beethoven? What was what was the film?
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: It was a Mike nick It was a Mike Nichols film. Brilliant.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: The Heartbreak Kids, The Heartbreak Kid, the original version of
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: the heart The original film is so searingly painful and funny.
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: And Eddie Albert played Cibil Shepherd's father from Minnesota, and
- 1:06:48Speaker 1: the scene of them sitting at the dinner table, Eddie
- 1:06:53Speaker 1: Albert questioning who this man was the wife, He goes, sir,
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: sir know I met your daughter on the beach and
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I I became quite enamored. And
- 1:07:06Speaker 1: uh and you know, I've just gotten married and my
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: wife are down here on our honeymoon, and I'm going
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: to break up with my wife because I fell in
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: love with your daughter and he's just Eddie. Albert just
- 1:07:16Speaker 1: looks at her like, what did you just say, young man?
- 1:07:20Speaker 1: What did you It's going to kill him at the
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: dinner table. Eddie was a very fine actor anyway, he
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: was the star of Green Acres with telling us about
- 1:07:30Speaker 1: that's never going to make the final and I won't
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: make it. I just have a feeling he's not gonna
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: make it because I think at the end of that
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: story is like the fingers were going down the side
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: of the cliff and we're keeping it all So Amy
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: and I were doing research about this. We were we
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: were Amy had said, she's kind of like the Paris
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: Hilton of that time, but more but then yeah, okay, right,
- 1:07:57Speaker 1: maybe a little, but then wait for it. And what
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: we found out that Jojo was married to Conrad Hilton
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: and he had changed her name to Georgia, claiming he
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: couldn't and wouldn't pronounce her Hungarian first name, So was
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Conrad Hilton, Paris's grandfather, grandfather who started the whole Hilton franchise.
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: So weird um trivia there? Okay, next one, Lorelai says, yeah,
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: look that Albert. Give me a soda. And this is
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: when Rory comes into the kitchen asking what happened with
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: the headmaster. Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids is an
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: American animated television series created, produced, and hosted by Bill Cosby,
- 1:08:42Speaker 1: who also lent his voice to a number of characters,
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: including Fat Albert. In two thousand four. Keenan Thompson played
- 1:08:49Speaker 1: Fat Albert in that film, and fun fact, Denise Richards
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: filmed a cameo as a store stale saleswoman and was
- 1:08:56Speaker 1: seen in the original trailer, but her scene was actually
- 1:09:00Speaker 1: deleted from the final cut. Do you know do you
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: know the fat Albert, the famous fat Albert Lyne? Can
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: you can you do fat Albert? Can you do? Every
- 1:09:10Speaker 1: used to this? Right? Wow? I mean you know we're
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: dropping some names here today, aren't we. I got some
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: more names for you. So this is when Rory is
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: chatting with the Puffs at lunch. Rory says, Sandra Day
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: O'Connor was a puff and Francy goes, well, no, well,
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: no one has proof. It's just folklore. Ivy then says,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: like snow White and Rosie Red and Rory goes or
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: Maria carries crack up um so Sandrady O'Connor. We don't
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: consider pop culture because she was a historical figure, but
- 1:09:48Speaker 1: we will talk about snow White. Mri carry snow White
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: and Rosy Red is a German fairy tale. The snow
- 1:09:55Speaker 1: White in the original story is not the same character
- 1:09:57Speaker 1: as the one in snow White in the Seven Dwarves.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: Mary Carey, I think everyone who's who she is, um,
- 1:10:03Speaker 1: but the reference could be referencing her breakdown on Total
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: Request Live back in two thousand one, and you are
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: about to hear her iconic song All I Want for
- 1:10:11Speaker 1: Christmas is you for the rest of December. Get ready.
- 1:10:20Speaker 1: You can't get away from it. It's like you can't
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: get away from that song or Kevin Hart. You just
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: every time you turn around, there's Kevin Hart you can't
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: get away from. I often ask myself, how is that
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: guy doing so many things like he is? He's got
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: to be three of them, right, totally, totally next one.
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: Rory goes, I'll tell you she's a regular, Gary mule Deer,
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: and this is when Rory tells the Puffs all about
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: paris Um so. Gary mule Deer is an American comedian
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: and country musician. Mule Deer was once roommates with comedian
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: Steve Martin and musician Michael Johnson. He has performed on
- 1:11:00Speaker 1: three major concert stage in the country. Rory goes, I
- 1:11:05Speaker 1: end up here with the yah Ya Sisterhood, and Rory
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: is telling head Master why she was in this situation
- 1:11:10Speaker 1: she was in with the puffs Um. Divine Secrets of
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: the Yaya Sisterhood is novel written by Rebecca Wells that
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: the two thousand two film stars Sandra Bull like Ellen
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: Burston and James Gardner, and The Divine Secrets of the
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: Yaya Sisterhood has been compared to Desperate Housewives, which circles
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: back nicely to our guest today, Brenda. Rory goes, great movie.
- 1:11:36Speaker 1: Oh wait, that was coming home, sorry, And this is
- 1:11:39Speaker 1: when the posts we're getting to know Rory Coming Home
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: is in seventy eight American romantic drama war film, the
- 1:11:46Speaker 1: opening scene where the vets in the hospital are talking
- 1:11:49Speaker 1: was actually unscripted. They were real Viet Nom that's discussing
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: their own views about the rule the war. John Voight
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: was supposed to have added to the dialogue out of respect,
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: he stayed silent and listened. Um. Next one, Uh, this
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: is with Lora Lae. She says. I told him that
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: he was completely out of line with this treatment of you,
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: that you are not alone of freak. You have plenty
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: of friends, and you don't own a long black leather
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: matrix coat. And as everyone knows, Um The Matrix is
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: an iconic action film from Kim Barrett is an Australian
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: costume designer and she was a regular collaborator with the
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: Wowskis and was a costume designer for the Matrix films.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves was dressed in tight fitting clothing to make
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: him feel more confined in everyday life. Um and Kiana Reeves,
- 1:12:43Speaker 1: Joe Pantoliano and Laurence Fishburne are weirdly all left handed
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: and last one in fact about The Matrix. Leonardo DiCaprio
- 1:12:52Speaker 1: turned down the role and David Swimmer was also a
- 1:12:55Speaker 1: front runner for the role of Neo. Did you tell
- 1:12:58Speaker 1: the part that Kiana Reeves gave of, like everyone a
- 1:13:00Speaker 1: million dollars. More than that, he gave away so many.
- 1:13:04Speaker 1: He gave away million dollars to the crew. I love
- 1:13:09Speaker 1: Kiana Reeves so much. Oh my god, Speed is like
- 1:13:12Speaker 1: my one of my top five ever movies. And Leonardo
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: DiCaprio gets offered everything first, and he was actually in
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: this episode two. There was a shout out to Leonardo
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: DiCaprio in um this episode. Can you imagine all the
- 1:13:29Speaker 1: films that he's offered, And he has to say no
- 1:13:32Speaker 1: to Danielle your no, Riley, But you're not terrible. I'm
- 1:13:37Speaker 1: not bad. I'm telling you, man, She's terrible. Got a
- 1:13:42Speaker 1: little boring there at one point I forget which one
- 1:13:44Speaker 1: where I was like, this is boring. But otherwise, good job,
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: and you're gonna let me go faster. Rory says, there's
- 1:13:58Speaker 1: a bad draft over here where I used They say,
- 1:14:00Speaker 1: it's kind of like a big downward gusts. It's not
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: exactly Toto. We're not in Kansas anymore, obviously, Toto. She's
- 1:14:06Speaker 1: referencing the dog in the Wizard of oz Um. Toto
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: was a dog named was a dog named Terry, and
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: Terry was a Terrier weird fun fact, Terry the Terrier
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: earned a hundred and twenty five dollars a week on
- 1:14:20Speaker 1: the set of Wizard of Oz, compared to Judy Garland,
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: who made five. It was pretty well paid back then.
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: But if I was getting paid five dollars and the
- 1:14:31Speaker 1: dog was getting paid one likes, the dog was getting
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: well paid. Twenty five a week was like in today's money,
- 1:14:41Speaker 1: that's like five six seven thousand bucks a week. I know.
- 1:14:44Speaker 1: That's what guys huge. That's why the dog was paid
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: well huge. Judy Garland maybe not so much. Yes, I
- 1:14:51Speaker 1: would be kind of upset if I was. Judy terrifies
- 1:14:55Speaker 1: me still. The Wicked Witch of the West, the Green
- 1:14:59Speaker 1: One when I was a kid, that gave me nightmares too.
- 1:15:06Speaker 1: So that's one of my first memories of like having it.
- 1:15:09Speaker 1: That's my first movie of like being afraid. The guy
- 1:15:13Speaker 1: could not look that in the Incredible Whole, anything in
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: Green was real. It was that. And to Kill a
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: Mockingbird Robert Duval that scared you scared, grab out of
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: the whole. Okay, two more guys with it? Luke says,
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: where's Barry manilow Um. Barry wrote the like a good
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: neighbor State Farm jingle. I don't know if anybody knows that,
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: but if you don't know, you do. Um. He receive
- 1:15:40Speaker 1: multiple Grammy nominations, but Copacabana earned him his only Grammy
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: award in nineteen seventy nine. Um. Weirdly, this past summer,
- 1:15:48Speaker 1: Gary performed at CNN and White Or New York City
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: Homecoming concert. He was about to sing, I made it
- 1:15:54Speaker 1: through the rain, and it started to rain, and it
- 1:15:59Speaker 1: literally ancel of the concerts. The behind the scenes that
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: day of that concert was better than the concert because they,
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: like just CNN just started like face timing Anderson Cooper
- 1:16:11Speaker 1: in the studio from like dressing rooms. It was so good. Okay.
- 1:16:16Speaker 1: Last one, Paris says, maybe someday I'll stumble into a
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: Disney movie and suddenly be transported into your body. Obviously
- 1:16:22Speaker 1: she's talking about Freaky Friday. Uh. Freaky Friday is in
- 1:16:26Speaker 1: nineteen seventies six fantasy comedy film starring Jodie Foster. Um.
- 1:16:30Speaker 1: Freaky Friday was made in two thousand three with Jamie
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: Lee Curtis and Lindsay Lohan. Um. There's this one scene
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: where they're auditioning to be part of a concert. And
- 1:16:41Speaker 1: you um might have missed this because I missed it,
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: and Amy reminded me it was to be a part
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: of iHeart Radio's iconic Wingo Tango concert. So bringing it
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: back to the iHeart Radio family. Really fun fact um there.
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: And then last fun fact for Freaky Friday. When Jamie
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: Lee Curtis found out that Lindsay Lohan um was going
- 1:17:02Speaker 1: to be playing her daughter and that she had started
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: the parent trap, she asked, which twin did you play,
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: not knowing that Lohan performed both. And that's your pop
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: culture guys, little along, Danielle, little long. But here's my
- 1:17:17Speaker 1: favorite lines. Here's my favorite lines I have with you.
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: I told you not to become a socio, but you
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: didn't listen. Lord La said that I loved your work
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: in Pizza Lora La also said that Lorala also said
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: she mentioned earlier that you didn't make her you know, gag.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: Then you two get in the heated fight and she
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: says make her mrs Backwards baseball cap for all I care.
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: I loved that, And then I love Rory's line of well, um,
- 1:17:42Speaker 1: what can you say? I mean this? I could have
- 1:17:44Speaker 1: had one favorite, Danielle, go ahead, I had the backwards
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: baseball cap one, but I always come prepared with the backup.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: So mine is from Michelle and he says, I'm not
- 1:17:55Speaker 1: speaking of Carol. She ate my low fat cheese. Okay,
- 1:18:00Speaker 1: mine are I'm gonna say my favorite line this whole
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: thing was my line thank you very much. When Laurel
- 1:18:09Speaker 1: I says, oh, Luke, can you give us some service?
- 1:18:12Speaker 1: He said, keep your pants on? Yes, I made me laugh,
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: it did? It made me laugh? Uh? And not to
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: find their relationship. My second favorite was Michelle with the
- 1:18:26Speaker 1: when they're negotiating on the phone. I'll do it if
- 1:18:28Speaker 1: you get me some American cheese. The cheese American cheese. Um,
- 1:18:32Speaker 1: what is it a mango cookie or a meringue cookie?
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: I don't know. One of those funny lines, look at it.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: I like that. Danielle and I have to write our
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: lines down, but Scott, being that he's an actor, can
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: do them from his head. Guys listening, I'm telling you
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: every single episode you've heard, Scott can remember the line
- 1:18:54Speaker 1: and doesn't look at notes, whereas DANIELLEO like rustling paper,
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: is going through emails to find our written out A lot.
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: It was a little behind the scenes. We called that
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: bts daniel maybe if you can, but that was good
- 1:19:10Speaker 1: signs completely and it was the most insightful thing she's
- 1:19:18Speaker 1: ever said. What I was trying to say is I
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: also have to rewind the episode ten dred different times
- 1:19:25Speaker 1: just to make sure I got the quote right. Same, same, Danielle.
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: All right, everybody, that's gonna that's gonna wrap this episode
- 1:19:36Speaker 1: a little along. But Brenda was great, and what are
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know when you got her Brenda strong?
- 1:19:44Speaker 1: How are you going to top that? And we're sitting
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: here desperately trying to top it. Do you want me
- 1:19:49Speaker 1: to tell you who the special guests are next week? Yeah? Sure,
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: your friends Matt Matt and Angela Lanter. Oh cool, Yes,
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: Oh that's really cool. Find out why that's really cool?
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: Special affinity for for Angela and Matte. Oh I love
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: these I love these guys. Um anyway, uh so next
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: week the ins and outs of INNS. We'll get into it.
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