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INTERVIEW: Paul Wall Talks New Music, New Grills, Conspiracy Theories, Swishahouse Music + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's Steve j n V Jess hilarious, Charlamage the guy.
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  Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.
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  Speaker 2: In the building. Yes, indeed, we got Paul Wall. What
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  Speaker 2: did it do?
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  Speaker 1: What's up, brother, I'm feeling a great man having to
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  Speaker 1: be back with my dogs.
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  Speaker 2: Man, only see you on Instagram? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: haven't been here in a decade.
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  Speaker 1: No, I ain't been ain't bean quite that long.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, it's a decade. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
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  Speaker 4: I remember I was looking at the video the last
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  Speaker 4: time I remember me and Slim Thug came up here.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about beat King. It was before he
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  Speaker 1: kind of blew up, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: And then when he blew up, you know that that
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  Speaker 4: video kind of started going viral because we were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Him, and of course he passed away recently, Rest in peace,
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  Speaker 1: beat King. But you know it made me think. You know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all always showing love to people.
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  Speaker 4: You're always giving people that platform to show love to
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  Speaker 4: other people, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So I just want to tell y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you all man, he look good, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 2: The Grays get great with the players still players. You
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  Speaker 2: know what they calling him?
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  Speaker 4: A Zaddy commented twenty twenty three, Houston Zaddy.
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  Speaker 2: Just they voted me.
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  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, you know, because you know
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  Speaker 5: how y'all age sometimes.
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  Speaker 2: Too close regularly. Look, I look good at the filters book.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you met your wife that sit your ass down.
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  Speaker 2: Damn Instagram. You know she the funny thing.
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  Speaker 4: She's the main one been telling me he don't die
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  Speaker 4: your hair hair, let it be gray.
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  Speaker 1: Let you don't keep quick quick cutting the ball. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm southside ball Fay.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, after a while, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: when it starts growing back, it don't grow back right.
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  Speaker 4: So she said, man, you need to grow your hair out.
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  Speaker 4: I thought she was just hating on me. I thought
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  Speaker 4: she was just hate on me.
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  Speaker 2: But she would send me up.
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  Speaker 4: She was.
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  Speaker 2: Chris Paul, I want to ask you about B King
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  Speaker 2: since you brought him up. What was that lost to Houston? Man?
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  Speaker 4: He had such a hell of a club run where
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  Speaker 4: his name was a club god. That was the perfect
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  Speaker 4: name for him. I'm talking about B King is somebody
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  Speaker 4: who could have done a show for an hour straight.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm talking about nothing but club bangers, back to
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  Speaker 4: back to back to back to back. And when you
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  Speaker 4: go to the club, especially anywhere in Texas, that's what
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  Speaker 4: you would hear is be King all day long. As
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  Speaker 4: an artist, you know, a homeboy, fellow artist. You know,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm trying to do a club so he's somebody
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  Speaker 4: I will call either to do the beat because he
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  Speaker 4: makes beats as well, in order to come do the
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  Speaker 4: hook or whatever. You know, he always would say some
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  Speaker 4: you know, you know, funny stuff, this topical, whatever's topical.
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  Speaker 4: You know when the when when the elevator incident happened
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  Speaker 4: at the met Gala.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: He had a whole freestyle about that. Anything that is
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  Speaker 4: going on, he's got like a topical freestyle.
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  Speaker 1: He'll do well.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I'm talking about man, his club boy. I'm talking
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  Speaker 4: about club god man, beat King, that man, that was
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  Speaker 4: a perfect name for him.
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  Speaker 2: Man. He rocked the clubs man recipe.
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  Speaker 4: Peace to be King, absolutely And I didn't know you
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  Speaker 4: had to say you had surgery. Yeah, oh you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about my way law surgery. That same might like that
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  Speaker 4: was about two thousand and nine in New Year's Eve. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I had the gast Or sleeve. That's when you bought it.
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  Speaker 4: Was that three fifty.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hit it. Well that that.
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  Speaker 1: Was that was the tall t arrow. So you know
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  Speaker 1: we can hide it. Well, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: I could hide it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, what was what got you to that that weight?
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  Speaker 2: Was it always eating?
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  Speaker 3: Was it was you using drugs?
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  Speaker 2: Like what got you there?
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  Speaker 4: Man? I think some of it was lifestyle. Some of
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  Speaker 4: it was, you know, a roller coaster, trying to lose weight,
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  Speaker 4: taking diet pills, sipping serve maybe you know, drinking alcohol
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  Speaker 4: all the other stuff too. It definitely messed up my metabolism. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it was something where I would be on
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  Speaker 4: a full fledged, like hard, tough, strict diet, strict regiment
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  Speaker 4: of training, working out, and six months go by you
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  Speaker 4: lose you know, four pounds, So it's very like deflating
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  Speaker 4: and just.
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  Speaker 2: It's not motivating whatever the opposite the motivating is.
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  Speaker 4: But one of my homeboys, man, one of the one
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  Speaker 4: of the biggest gangsters I know, he was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: I want to go get that band. And I was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: that man, you know, I don't know, man, I just
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  Speaker 4: to me that wasn't something the gangsters did the players did,
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  Speaker 4: you know? And he was like, man, now forget that. Man,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna save my life. You know you want you
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  Speaker 4: want to die, you know, because he was going through
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  Speaker 4: some of the same thing. He sipped a lot of
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  Speaker 4: syrup too, he was taking dive pills, all of that,
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  Speaker 4: and it was just a rollercoaster messing up his metabolism.
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  Speaker 1: And when he win, he was like, say, man, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to come.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if he really wanted to get it
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  Speaker 4: or he was just trying to convince me to kind
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  Speaker 4: of get it, because.
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  Speaker 2: He ended up not getting anything, but he was the
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  Speaker 2: guy PI. Yeah, it definitely worked.
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  Speaker 4: It saved my life, man, for only my only greatest
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  Speaker 4: I didn't do it sooner, because man, if I knew,
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  Speaker 4: I could have been skinny like this and I ain't
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  Speaker 4: got to work out on nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't got to do nothing.
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  Speaker 5: But do you issue would have waited. Now that the
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  Speaker 5: ozempic is real heavy in campaigns, I do see that,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, damn, maybe that's all I would have had to do,
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  Speaker 4: and I could have I could have been Misspokes you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm trying to bespokes for the sleeve, but I ain't
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  Speaker 4: no doctor.
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  Speaker 2: Trying to pay me.
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  Speaker 1: How does it affect you?
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  Speaker 2: Gidding?
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  Speaker 1: So you just not it's just not hungry. You just
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  Speaker 1: get full real quick, real man.
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  Speaker 4: So like, for instance, last night, I had something to eat,
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  Speaker 4: like a little gyro and I had two bites and
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  Speaker 4: that was it.
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  Speaker 2: I was full, and.
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  Speaker 4: I was gonna get the lap band. But the lap
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  Speaker 4: band I know people who had it, and it either
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  Speaker 4: stretches or slips, so they got to.
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  Speaker 1: Get it removed.
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  Speaker 4: They gain their weight back, and I just you know,
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  Speaker 4: I actually went to get to and the doctor was like, man,
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  Speaker 4: look the doctor who did it was one of the
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  Speaker 4: first doctors that ever did the lap band or sleep
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  Speaker 4: any of that. He actually trained other doctors and he
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  Speaker 4: was like, look, I done did over a thousand of these, man.
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  Speaker 4: You know it ain't it ain't what you want. You
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  Speaker 4: want to do this one. And I was like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: same cost that. It really wasn't too much different. It
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  Speaker 4: just the lap band. They put a little band around
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  Speaker 4: your stomach. The sleeve they put a whole sleeve around
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  Speaker 4: your stomach and they remove part of your stomach that
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  Speaker 4: produced the hormone that makes you hungry, so I don't
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  Speaker 4: I don't get it, Liketh.
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  Speaker 3: Say there anything that you can't do or certain things
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  Speaker 3: that you have to be careful about because of this.
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  Speaker 4: For sure, you gotta make sure you're eating your protein,
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  Speaker 4: your nutrients, so your vitamins, because I don't eat that much.
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  Speaker 4: So and if I don't eat, I will get like
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  Speaker 4: a little tired, you know what I'm saying, lack of
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  Speaker 4: energy just because you say, I gotta remind myself to eat,
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  Speaker 4: you know, or else I'll get aheadache. I won't get hungry,
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  Speaker 4: but I get like a little grumpy, you know, and
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  Speaker 4: like Google be like hey man, here's yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, man, I can eat anything, drink anything.
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  Speaker 4: You know. It's not like restricted where you can't drink
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  Speaker 4: coffee or soda or whatever. But I will say this though,
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  Speaker 4: spicy food definitely gives me a lot more heartburn than
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  Speaker 4: it used to. You know, wife, you like to cook.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, man, that's the only the only tough
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  Speaker 4: thing is now I can't really eat. I used to
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  Speaker 4: enjoy eating.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you joy, yeah, exactly. Now I
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  Speaker 2: gotta eat to live. And I was eating for fun.
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  Speaker 6: I don't like heartburning at all age because heart burned
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  Speaker 6: all age you don't know you having a heart attack.
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  Speaker 2: And now you know what I'm saying, I don't like that.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little scary.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now we haven't heard from you in a while.
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  Speaker 5: Your fans like musically, so describe the energy of this
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  Speaker 5: this album.
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  Speaker 2: Now you on now.
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  Speaker 4: It's called Once Upon a Grind, produced by my boy
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  Speaker 4: DJ Fresh and also g Luck beat On from Houston.
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  Speaker 4: My boy Beans and Cornbread. My boy DJ Fresh did
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  Speaker 4: most of the production. He's from the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: He's real musical.
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  Speaker 1: He does a lot of you know.
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  Speaker 4: Anything, keys or keyboards or synth or you know, guitars.
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  Speaker 4: He plays every instrument. But it's a real musical, Like
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  Speaker 4: just in the production, it's real motivating. Once Upon a
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  Speaker 4: Grind it's all about just putting your best foot forward,
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  Speaker 4: being your best self, you know, giving you all and everything,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, and just just trying to progress,
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  Speaker 4: you know, even if it's a little by little, just
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  Speaker 4: making progress in your life. You know whatever, you're setting
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  Speaker 4: goals and just just just trying to accomplish them. So
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  Speaker 4: that's just what the whole album is about. This is
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  Speaker 4: what I'm trying to convey with the message. You know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying with it Once upon a grind.
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  Speaker 3: You ever thought about going back and doing like a
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  Speaker 3: whole project withwitsh your house artists like Mike Jones, of
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  Speaker 3: course stugg a Thugger or Chamelionaire.
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  Speaker 4: You ever thought about that. No, You're still in contact
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  Speaker 4: with them. May not be on them to do this
• 7:57
  Speaker 4: all the time. Man, First of all, let me start
• 7:59
  Speaker 4: off with the ball Slim Thug. Slim Thug is the
• 8:02
  Speaker 4: most like he is the biggest boss, but when it
• 8:06
  Speaker 4: comes to rapping, he's like, you know, like we'll be
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  Speaker 4: like in New York and let's go to studio.
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  Speaker 2: He'd be like, man, go to the studio. Let's go
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: to the club. He liked the party, would like the party.
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  Speaker 2: He'd be like, man, studio, we can go to the
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: studio anytime.
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  Speaker 1: He got a studio in his house.
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  Speaker 4: So, for instance, if I like, he's on my new album,
• 8:20
  Speaker 4: Hey I need you on my album bet single song,
• 8:21
  Speaker 4: he do it in fifteen minutes. So if we're in
• 8:23
  Speaker 4: a situation where it's like I'm a little different, like
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, we in New York. Let's capture the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Let's go in the studio. Let's capture this energy and
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  Speaker 4: do something. But Slim is like, man, we can go
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: to the studio any time. Man, there's no difference. We
• 8:35
  Speaker 4: go to the studio now or tomorrow. So that's Slim.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: So Slim is not like really motivated to get in
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  Speaker 1: there and knock it.
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  Speaker 2: Out, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, now if we tell him, hey, we got a
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: deal or we need to do this or whatever, yeah,
• 8:48
  Speaker 4: for sure, he motivated in like anytime we got a
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  Speaker 4: deadline or something.
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  Speaker 1: But I done did that with Slim where we do
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  Speaker 1: a whole entire mixtape.
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  Speaker 2: In the day. You know, I've done that with him.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I've seen him do that plenty of times.
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  Speaker 4: So he's not really like pressure to let's get it going,
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: okay now, Mike Jones, Mike Jones all over the place.
• 9:06
  Speaker 4: He kind of making a comeback with his music. He
• 9:08
  Speaker 4: kind of was, you know, out of the scene for
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  Speaker 4: a while. You know, in terms of shows, like me
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  Speaker 4: and Slim, we tore all the time on the road
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  Speaker 4: every single weekend. Mike Jones kind of took a break
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  Speaker 4: for a while. Now he's coming back out, He's got
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  Speaker 4: new music coming out. He's definitely on the road again.
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  Speaker 2: Number. But actually, you know what, I think he's trying
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  Speaker 2: to get it back.
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  Speaker 4: I think I think they people still lost it and
• 9:32
  Speaker 4: then he's trying to get it back for some reason.
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: But because the phone number gets so many calls, it's
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: not like a normal bill. It's like an inflated bill.
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  Speaker 4: So like I know, he'll get like a ten thousand
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: dollars phone bills. Like it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: But you said he was what was he doing during
• 9:48
  Speaker 3: that time because he was missing for a minute.
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: I think he was just enjoying life because we would
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: see him every now and in the shows, and every
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: time we see him, he looking good. He's still rocking
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  Speaker 4: and still killing it. But you know, we wouldn't really
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: see him in the studio too much or dropping too
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: much music. But now I know he's dropping some music. Now.
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  Speaker 4: If we were to all do a project like that,
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure Mike Jones will probably be involved with that.
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  Speaker 4: He probably will be down, you know, But I think
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  Speaker 4: right now he's kind of more focus on getting you know,
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  Speaker 4: his own solo stuff going, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he probably will be down. Come me
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  Speaker 2: in there, man. Man, he ain't trying to do no music.
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  Speaker 4: Man, he got so much money right now, whatever take
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: money he got, whatever investment is the crypto he got
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: he Look, let me tell you, I talked to him
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: about this all the time, because the way the music
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: industry has evolved. You know, he's not he's he's always
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: been this way way. He's not trying to give nothing away.
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: He really he really appreciates the value of his music,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and he's not giving it away. He's not
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: signing the deal where he's getting screwed over just because
• 10:49
  Speaker 4: it's a good look.
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  Speaker 2: Nah, He's not about none of that.
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: He's straight business and he really values his art that
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: he creates. So you know what I'm saying with that,
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: it takes a certain type of label to sign him
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  Speaker 4: who has the same vision as him, where they're not
• 11:05
  Speaker 4: just all about the dollars and cents, they're not just
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: all about just you know, whatever is gonna make us
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  Speaker 4: splash or go viral.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he needs the right type of partner, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't be signing with nobody at this point though. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, this is why I tell him.
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  Speaker 4: Look, you ain't got it. We don't as a artist.
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  Speaker 4: You don't even have to put your music on Spotify.
• 11:21
  Speaker 4: You don't have to put it on any of these
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: streaming where's free.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. You can put it
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: only for sale. You can make it.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: We can release an album right now and drop it
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: on CD. I don't know who got a CD player.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying.
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: He can create a website and do it only on
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: your le.
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  Speaker 2: On the website where we only sell it.
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: We sell everything. I tell him, say, man, let's drop
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: an album. Well, we don't drop it till we got
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: one hundred thousand pre sales. You know what I'm saying,
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: You know, then we don't have to drop an album
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: ailwhere we don't get it. You know what I'm saying, Well,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: it don't have to be like the just how the
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  Speaker 2: trends are. We don't have to do that.
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  Speaker 4: And if you're not cool with giving your music away
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  Speaker 4: or you know whatever, then we don't have to. And
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  Speaker 4: but I think he's trying to like navigate, you know,
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  Speaker 4: because he's he has a passion for the music. So
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: every now and then somebody will ask him Toby newig
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  Speaker 4: Wad got him on a song with two Change last year.
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  Speaker 4: Every nine and anytime I've ever asked him to do something,
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: he'll do it, you know. Same with Slam, with any
• 12:10
  Speaker 4: of us we asked Bunna be asking, He's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 4: But he's not like, hey, I need to do an
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  Speaker 4: album and I want to do this, you know. And
• 12:16
  Speaker 4: also he's like, you know, just the way that the
• 12:18
  Speaker 4: way the uh, it's like a microwave generation or just
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: not even generation, it's.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: A microwave errow we're in where it comes like this
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  Speaker 2: and it goes like that.
• 12:26
  Speaker 4: So you put your all into something, You put all
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: this creativity and thoughts and ideas you've had for years
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  Speaker 4: that you finally put into fruition and put it on
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  Speaker 4: an album and it comes out and then the next
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: week no one cares because they're on to the next
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: artist album dropping.
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  Speaker 1: He's just like Man's he's not really pressed to just
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  Speaker 1: drop nothing like that.
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  Speaker 4: But again, if it was like something where it's like
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  Speaker 4: all four of us or something, I think he probably
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: would do that, you know what I'm saying now, I
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: will say this too.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Somebody who's been in a group with command in that
• 12:53
  Speaker 2: where you split it fifty to fifty.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Come in. There is a guy where it's like, hey,
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: look if it's four of us and we split.
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: It twenty five, twenty five, twenty five. You know what
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. He's more like, say, man, look, why don't
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: we just drove solo albums? And yeah, So he's like,
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: you know, but it would take a special moment or
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: a special situation.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Or something like.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: This is what I tell him all the time, say, man,
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: we need to do an album or we need to
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: just make some music just so it's there so that
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: if something happens or something or whatever, that is just
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: it's just there, yeah, in the arch. And also, I know,
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: you know, when you stop and you try to come
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: back later, you gotta get back in shape.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: But if you never stop working out, you never got
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: to train, you know.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: You know, if you training for super yeah, of course
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: you're gonna train a little harder or you know what
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But I'm just saying like, and that's why
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: I keep putting on mute've I've been putting on music NonStop.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: But I just you know, it's more like on the
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: ground or you know, under the radar, you know, what
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: I'm saying not a whole lot of marketing behind it.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: But for me on my music, it's more like I'm
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: just trying to focus on the music of it, the
• 13:54
  Speaker 4: music aspect of it.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: And also I don't want to, you know, get I
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: don't want to get lost in the shuffle of I
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: ain't dropped the album five years, six years or whatever,
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: and then when you finally drop that album, the expectations
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: be so high.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: It it's like, man, if you don't meet.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: The expectations, is a complete flyp or failure.
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm just like, man, I'm doing what I love
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: to do. I'm making music with the people I enjoy
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: making music with. I'm still torn on the road, just
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: you know, enjoying my life making good money with it.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: So I mean, I don't know if I mean, you
• 14:23
  Speaker 4: put that out there, so I might have to, you know,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: I might have to rally the truths. You know what
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, everybody or you the glue that talks to everybody.
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: You're the main person that talks everybody.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: I would maybe say slim Thug might be the glue.
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: You know, slim Thug is maybe even more of the glue,
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: I would say, But I mean, I don't know. I
• 14:42
  Speaker 4: don't have any problems with any of them. None of
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: us have any problems with each other, you know what
• 14:45
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But we're all you know, we're our brothers,
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: so we support each other to the full us. Whatever
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: each one of us is doing, we definitely support, you know.
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: But yeah, i'd say SLIMP Thug might keep in contact
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: with all of us a little bit more than I do, maybe,
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: but well, you know, we all boys.
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: What do you think led to switch the house not
• 15:05
  Speaker 6: having the impact they once had? Because think about it,
• 15:07
  Speaker 6: you're just named three powerhouses, right.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna tell you this, I've been you know,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: salute to the DJs out there, Michael Watson, og ron C,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: the two DJs that discovered myself, Common and Mike Jones,
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: SLIMPT the four platinum artists. They discovered us when we
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: were at our very beginning. You know, they didn't sign
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: us after we already established, after our had a household name.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: They signed us and built yourself from scratch and turned
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: us into platinum artists. And that's very rare when someone.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Could do that to four artists, so big salute to og.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Ron C, Michael five thousand Watts and all the DJs
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: who helped us, but specifically them two.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Now we'll switch the house.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: I can say what happened is the same thing that
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: happened to any other record label that ever existed.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: They never last forever, you know what I'm saying.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Every record label eventually, you know, sometimes they reinvent themselves
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: with new artists, new sounds, new CEOs, new directions, but
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: no record label last forever, especially like if it's in
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: the same thing that happened to Rockefeller Murder Inc.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: You know, cash Money is like the only one that
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: is still going. You know what I'm saying, Well, they
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: still going.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: Hard, but you know what I mean, they to reinvent
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: themselves to do right old with young money or you know,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: things like that. But I mean, you know, we had
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: a great run. So it's like, you know, it lasted
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: a great time. I wish it could continue, just because
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I know the impact that the Swisher House had for
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: me in my career, and you know, I wish that
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: that impact could be made for another artist because I just.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Know what it did for me, you know what I'm saying,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: But I mean it just it is what it is,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: It's just how the times go.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: I know, Michael Watch still doing stuff he got I
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: think he got an app right now where you got,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: you know, the chopped up music on there. I know
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: O g Rounci's still chopping stuff up, still doing music.
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: But in terms of both of them, like discovering and
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: developing new talent, I don't think it's really come to
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: that white yeah, but I think it might be getting there,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: just because you could see you know what I'm saying, like,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: you know, just that style of freestyling over other people
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: beats and just bringing some you know, your own, you know,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: little flavor to somebody else's song. You know, there's just
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: so much talent out there that you know, all they
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: need is an avenue to show it. You know, you
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: get the right artists, you know, on that avenue and
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: the same thing having others is gonna happen to them.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: So I saw an interview where you had said growing
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: up you didn't realize you was white.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. Yeah, it was like you white? Why
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: you why are you talking that like that? You white?
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what where was this? Like? When was
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: some when were you I was like.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know, definitely in school, elementary school maybe or
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: middle school.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I remember that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: But I mean all my friends were black or Mexican
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: or Asian. I lived in a very diverse neighborhood. There
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: was you know, it was white people there, but it
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: was you know, Mexican, Black, Vietnamese, Indian and all kind
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: of every any a lot of everything. You know, even
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: you know, it was like you know, fb a, you know, black,
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: but it was also like a lot of immigrants black
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: like Canadian and he's Nigerian. You know, there were other
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: you know, immigrants they were black as well. But so
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: we got a great mixture of you know, growing up
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: in America.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I guess to.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Be sure crowding c you ain't. But my mama did
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: take a DNA test.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: She three percent.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: I mean I know that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: I know she can't say the N word. That ain't
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: enough for say.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: You ever took it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: No, No, not that my mama whatever wanted to say
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: the N world. By the way, you know, she ain't
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: never said that in her life.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Why you're scared to test? Because you're scared to test
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: because be too white?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Nah, I don't really try, Like, no, I don't know
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I really want to, but I'm just you know, it's
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: the conspiracy theorist. To me, it's like, I don't know
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: if they're going to use my data and they're gonna say, oh,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: he's this and this and this, so that means he's
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: more susceptible to these diseases and they're gonna use it
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: to you know, I don't know. It's just I know
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: it might sound crazy, but it's just the it's the conspiracy.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Like I really want to get it though, but I'm like, man,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Man, Paul is a real conspiracy theorist though, But you
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: don't you don't even believe in dinosaur?
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Oh no, why?
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I just always thought they was fake. I don't know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: It's just I just I never believed that they existed.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, kind of once you realized
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: that Santa Claus isn't real, you know what I'm saying
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: to Easter Bunny not real, and it's.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, I don't know. I just always thought
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the dinosaur was a fake.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: You know, my mama she talked, we talked about it
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: because ever since I ever heard of you know, kindergarten
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: or whatever. It's like, man, I don't know that's make leave,
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: you know, But I just always just thought they were fake.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: And every now and then I'll come across certain other
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: people like Marcellus Wiley. I remember Derek Bell, he played
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: for the Astros. I remember it was a fun fact
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: he didn't believe in dinosaurs either, you know. So every
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: now and I'll come across other people who, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: they're in on the hoax with me, you know what
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: But I don't know, when you think about stuff like
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: whales or elephants get like these big, magnificent creatures, it's
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: not far fetched.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: I definitely think there's stuff in the ocean too that
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: we don't know about this, you know what I'm saying, bigger,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: But I don't know. I just always felt like the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: dinosaurs that they, you know, they show us aren't real
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: not you know. I watched a lot of ancient aliens too,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: so they talk about dinosaurs being basically like big chickens
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and stuff, you know what I'm saying, Or how we
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: look at him as being like lizards and reptiles. They
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: say they're more like they were like they had feathers
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: and they had other things. I don't know, I don't know.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: I just I just feel like, man, I just don't
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: believe it, you know, I just I never believe it
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: or not.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: In South Carolina and North Carolina and like the late
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: eighties early nineties, people can still see terodactors for real.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Stop, I'm not even joking. Anybody out there can look
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: at me.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Right now, google it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: They still were seeing terodactives ladies every night.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: And I remember being a kid and it was Live
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: five news and Live five news somebody had captured one
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: on video and then they told us it was like
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: a kite or robot or some shit.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And this was the eighties. I'm like, get the fuck out.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like that he was on drugs, like eight.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I'm a hypocritical conspiracy theorist because I don't believe in
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: dinosaurs by one hundred percent believe that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: So you know what I'm saying.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, I do believe like when we go
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: certain places, like I go travel like Mexico somewhere, and
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: they're like, oh, they still say this, this, this, and that.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I believe that, but I just don't believe in the
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you mean chi Copra, Yeah, yeah, but I don't.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't believe in a lock of his
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: monster because it's been debunked.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, but the debunked the
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: debunkness also could be fraud.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm open minded about this.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Why you don't believe it? Like Monsa though, because I
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: would have dinosaurs, uh went underwater. I believe. I believe
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: there are things underwater. I just don't believe it's dinosaurs.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't believe it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm open to the idea that they could exist. I
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: just I don't know.
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: I just I believe in aliens for sure. I'm heap
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: of criticalien.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen one?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean not like Little Green Man
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: But you know, like I said, I watched a lot
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: of ancient aliens so that they say the aliens among.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: Us, we wouldn't even know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They say they're humanoid and this and that. So I mean,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I know I sound crazy, but.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: You know you don't want to I want to go. Uh,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: how did you meet Johnny Day? How did you get
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: to start selling speaking because you know, a lot of
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: people the first time they seen grills or people making
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: girls was from you and Johnny. I mean, I think
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: you you made a set of grils when we first
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: started the breakfast. Yeah, at at one point.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: It's time, it's time to come back.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: I need to make y'all friend set. That's right, man,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Johnny Man.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I started off.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: Actually, I was actually selling grills before I met Johnny,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: and you know, I stopped to really kind of pursue
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: my music a little bit more.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But my boy, who I was selling.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Grills for, he was he also was doing some music
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: and he was like, say, look, I need you to
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: do some promotion for me, and if you do promotion
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: for me from my album, I'm gonna take you and
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: introduce you to the plug so you don't gotta go
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: through me. You can have your own grill set up everything.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: My boy Crime and he told me I did it
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Promosa Farm was like, bet, this is a win for me.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: So I did it.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: From you know, I passed out as flyers for his album.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: He brought me to Johnny and then me and Johnny.
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: You know, well at the time, I was just another
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: wholesale client. I wasn't like famous or nothing like that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: Even I was trying to wrap it, but I wasn't
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: like established. No, this is even before switch House days really,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: so you know when he brought me to Johnny, I'm
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: just a wholesale client. Now as I start, you know,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: rapping in the Swisher House. You know this pre internet.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Nobody know what anybody look like.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: They just kind of hear the voice and it's slowed down,
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: so you don't really hear exactly how it sound what
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: you might hear it now. I used to always say,
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: this is why I used to always say my name
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: at the start of everywhere to do was pa Wak,
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: because there's no you don't know who I am, but
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: you're gonna hear that.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: At least you gonna know my name. So one time,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you know, I being Johnny's all the time.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: Were on the Southwest side of Houston, where okay, the
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: southwest side of Houston is very very very.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Immigrant like.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: What you call it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: It's congested a lot of immigrants, and that's how time.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: So you've got a lot of different accents and it's
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: all English, but it's just different accents. Then also it's
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: the hood so you got a Mexican hood accent, you
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: got a Black hood accent, you got the Asian hood accents.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: You also got.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: People from Louisiana coming in with the Louisiana accent, so
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: you know, and all of that, and Johnny being the
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Vietnamese immigrant himself who speaks English.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: But it's let you understand those casters some time.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: He worked on it a lot, but some of it still,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: you know, it's it's man, he definitely got his own,
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: you know, accent, but he uh, you know. It's funny
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: too because at one point, you know, as you know,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I would get record deals and stuff. Somebody gave me
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: a little a little CD how to lose your accent
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: like this, this kind of I guess for immigrants trying
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: to lose their accent. But it was so that I
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: would sound more white, so that I could be more
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: feeling in movies. And I'm like, man, I don't want
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to sound like this. Man, I don't want to say they.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I guess they did it in good you know, good
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: good means. But I was like slightly offenive, you know.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: But it's funny because Johnny had the same exact this,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying both didn't use it because
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I posted it, and Johnny.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: Was like, bro, I got the same this man, it's crazy.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: He might need the volume too.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: He got the first one edition.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But now I would be in there and everybody would
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: be in there arguing with Johnny just because it would
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: be broken English to broken English to hood accents, you
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and I would just be translating
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: English to English. And you know, eventually, one time somebody
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: was in there and they were at in matter of fact,
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: they was from Louisiana and they was like, man, you's
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: South familiar.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: What's your name. I was like, my name Paul Wall
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and there's like from the Switch House.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: And this is when I first started, you know, a
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: couple of mixtapes here and there, and it was like yeah,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: and then Johnny like, damn, you're famous.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, not really, you know what I'm saying,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: but I.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Mean whatever, but that that kind of like I was
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like Johnny's first celebrity kind of you know
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, even though I was. My celebrity growth
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: was at the same time, you know, as the jury growth.
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: But you know, I just it was a hell of
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: a hustle for me.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Me and Johnny clicky well in business together, business together with.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Great friends, family. You know, he's just a great guy too. Man,
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it's a great guy to know. But definitely man, that's
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: my dog man. He changed my Lifey.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: People in Houston at an outgrow grils.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, grill.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you this, when grill, when we round up,
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: you know, the mid two thousands, you know what I'm saying,
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: there was a time where the fad or trend of
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: grills was dying down, especially as it became like you know, yeah,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: you know, but you know, the next generation picked it
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: back up.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And that when the next generation picked it up, it
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: was that that made it a forever cycle.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Now, if the next generation wouldn't have picked it up,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: then it would have been like, okay, maybe we got
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: a wait twenty years or some ten years like any
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: other like bail bottoms, you know, I don't know. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: when the next generation picked it up, that kicked off
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: the cycle of This is the cycle of you might
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: as a you know, an individual outgrow grills because of
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: your age, but it's all of my frame.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, Reggie Jackson got grilled.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: I made Regi Jackson some grills, you know, I think,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: and we were talking about it, I think he might
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: be the most say I don't want to say, oh,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: he might be the most seniors.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: You know person that we made grills for the definitely
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Mad Triple og Regi Jackson.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: But after who's the oldest person you know that got grill?
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: But definitely Regi Jackson that I know. But I mean
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: in terms of well, he was in Houston at the time,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: you know when we did them. But I mean in
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: terms of Houstonians, I don't know. Once you get to
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: your fifties, you know what I'm saying, some people kind
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: of like But at the same time, there are people
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: who come in there like I just turn fifty.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I got my money right now, I don't care.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, some of it's in mind
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: frame because maybe you get into you have your jobs,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: or you have different priorities where you're like, I ain't
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: worry about these grills.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a new kitchen, you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: But girls are expensive, the ones that you be having.
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, did you have any influence on Megan's latest girls?
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: The one that she had a bigger in textio.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Man big shot out them.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: Matter of fact, we got these same grills. They're called
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: the honeymoon set, Johnny. We made them, of course, you
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. But yeah, it's we called it
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: the honeymoon set because there's at least a carrot on
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: each tooth, so every tooth is a waiting ring.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: But she thank you, thank you.
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: How much would they cost, Well, it depends on if
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: you get if they're you know, on the sides of
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: the big stone.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So you know these could you know.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: Seventy eighty thousand, one hundred thousand. You know, I see
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: people say all kind of Lander's numbers.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, if you want to, I.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Mean I could charge you anything.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I can say this right now for a million dollars.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: It ain't working million dollars. But I can sell tea
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: for million dollars.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: So you know, I could say your grill for you know,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, but it ain't it's worth.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: How many girls have you thrown away?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it, bro, I just
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I just found the ones you made for me. Lemon know,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: we make them.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, I know they might not
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: fit as time goes on, but I don't know how
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: that worked. Yeah, but you might know, Like, no, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: ain't playing no games. I just found a set of
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: grills I lost, though.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: These were my favorite grills, man to man. I just
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: found them.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I got my car painting, and when I got my
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: when I got my car back, my boy's like, hey,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: these grills were, you.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Know, under the seat, And I was like, huh, I've
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: been looking for them grills for like ten years.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: You know, I just found them.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: So, man, you know there's a there's still hope for
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: the other ones I lost, but I definitely lost quite
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: a few sets.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: You know, you're taking them out when you're eating this
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: other thing too.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: If I leave them in at all times when I'm
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: smoking when I'm eating, just imagine, okay, I gotta watch.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Imagine I dip my watch in the lattable and then
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: I did my watch watching some lasagna, and then I
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: did my watch and the whole thing of chewing.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Tobacco or so my own chew tobacco. But I'm just saying, it's.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Just for smoking, you know, so even it's just not
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: gonna you know, it's even if you get it clean,
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: it's not it's gonna tarnish, and it's you just don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: want to do that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: It's not good.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not good practice.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: But Johnny is always on me by man, say, man,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: take your grills out when you smoke, take your grills
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: out when you eat.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Because you leave your grills in all the time.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Well a lot of it be because we out in public.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to take them out, you know,
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: like or you know, I mean even when I met
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: my wife, I ain't take my grills out. Like for
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: the first like six months you thought they was. I
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: sleep with them because this is how I live. Like
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: they weren't permanent. But I would sleep with them. I
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: would would, you know.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I take them ot to burst my teeth and put
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: them right back in. I don't come with a smell.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: They don't come with all.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well, as long as you take care of your high gienus, okay,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: they don't.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, now, I would clean them with hydrogen peroxide or
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: baking soda or regular toothpaste.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I would clean.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: I never had a cavity in my life until I
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: start drinking energy drinks and then I got cavities outside
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: of my grills, like wherever my grills or not. That's
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: why I got cavity. But before that, I never had
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: a cavity in my life, so I always had white preval.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: My mama. True that guys from Houston proposed with grills
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in that ring. It doesn't have it that way.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: There has been a few, and sometimes the bride is
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: not is heavy, she's like, I don't want this. But
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: other times they're excited, you know, so we do that.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Sometimes we do his and hers, you know, for for couples.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times it will.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Accompany the wedding rings, you know what I'm saying. So
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: so basically it'll be like you spend enough money on
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the wedding ring and we can hook you up on
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the grill, you know what I'm saying.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Do you ever get upset that your name is not included?
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: Like they'll say, maging this diary and got a grill
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: from Johnny Dang or Sauce Walker got a new half
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: million dollars changing from Johnny Dang.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Ever I think about that. I mean, sometimes like people
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: will say, hey, why I ain't saying that?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Man?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Never never, never, you know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, the goal of the mission is accomplished. The
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: mission was never for me to be famous or any
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: of that. Even the first time I sold grills, you know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: even up till now, it's not to make money.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: It's to who my homeboys up. You know what I'm saying.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: When I first got When I first got my first
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: set of grills, I went back to the block, they like, damn,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: where you get those? And we came with something new
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: where it was like, okay, I couldn't afford something I
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: wanted nice, So you know, I couldn't afford diamonds or
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: nothing like this.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I just want the gold white on.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yellow gold and give me like a white goat strip
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: on the tip with a little diamond cuts, so it'll
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: make you think I got diamonds, but I dun't. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: went back to the block and they like, damn, okay,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: everybody want one. So I'm like, okay, how can I
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: get all my twenty homeboys and my cousins this, that
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: and what?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: How can I get everybody grills? You know, for the
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: same price I paid, or for a discount. I'm not
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: trying to make money off of I'm trying to hook
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: them much so that they shine, and so that when
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: we all pull up, we all like, damn, y'all must
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: be from go Bank, because all y'all want to go
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: thank shine like that.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: So that's what it was all about, was just about
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: hooking my friends up.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: And then eventually that turned into a my friend has
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: a friend that want a grill, all right, will let
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: me sell it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: To him make a little money.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And Johnny started off as a wholesaler, so even him.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: You know, when you wholesale it's a different price than
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: when you sell it retail. So the retail markup on Drewry,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: especially grills, used to be three hundred percent, so you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: Johnny would mark it up two hundred percent. He's still
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: making a lot of money because he's wholesaling it and
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: marketed up two hundred percent.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: So, but of course all the other jewelers hate us.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: They especially hate Johnny. All the jewelers hate Johnny because
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: he you know, I mean, he's the top dog. But
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: when my name not included, I don't even care about
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: none of that, honestly, because you know what I mean,
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: you know, I did my part. I put my boy on.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: You know, he's the man that people want grills. They
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: come to him, and honestly, it'd be a huge headache
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: for me. They come to me they want free grills.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you know, like that, Johnny. Look,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting with you because they gonna they know
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: they're gonna pay what you with me. They think they
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: get free girls.
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, look some people with freaka I
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: mean the honeymoon said, I don't know you're getting a honeymoon.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You know, Meghan might be a little different.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Of course, you go Megan though, But you know what
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, like, uh, yeah, I ain't never worried about
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: that man to my boy.
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Johnny, Dang whatd he look like under that?
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm not gonna take somebody.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: I've been taking my boy Johnny advice.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: So I do take I do take my grills out
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: and uh, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: When I smoke, but I got a little you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: a little coffee stains in there, ain't too bad.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I'll take them out off cameras you can see and then.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: You can tell, you can tell you.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, So you know, for instance, like you know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: if I knew he was gonna ask me that I
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: probably wanted to clean them in he buffing real quick
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: ten minutes. They look brand new, but you know it's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: been maybe a month, so you know what I'm saying.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: I got word for smoking stains and coffee things.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll show you off a camera.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you about the Houston music scene.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Right when you think of Meghan Travis, Scott, Don Tolliver,
• 35:09
  Speaker 6: do you think Houston artists have to have a Houston
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: sound Saucewalker too, Yeah.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: For sure, I got a Houston I mean, you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: uh b salute to all of the fresh new artists
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: that are holding it down for Houston and for Texas.
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Houston style is so diverse, you know.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, we do have a core sound or like
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: a core slang, a little accent, but I don't think so.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: You got Toby newig Way where he's doing his own style.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: You definitely hear the Houston in them though. You know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: Sauce Walker, he brought some completely new to the table
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: to represent He birthed a whole new branch of the
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: hip hop tree in Houston, you know with his style.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: You know, he created a new Houston style with it,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But even in that, you
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: hear the Houston. You know, sometimes he got some screwtin
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: chop here and there hook so he you know, makes
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: some references or he got know this and that, you
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: know whatever slavs of this. You know, he definitely got
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: some Houston influence in there, but he does it his
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: own way. Same with Megan, she do it one hundred
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: percent her own way. Don Tolliver, you know what I'm saying,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: Travis Scott, They for sure represent Houston. They got that
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: Houston style, but they do it their own way.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And they you know, they they.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Birthed new new versions of the Houston style the same
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: way like the Ghetto Boys. You know, we're Houston, but
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: you know, the screwed Up Click was a different kind
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: of form of you know, the Houston style, you know, and.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: The switch House was like a you know, a product
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of that. You know.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Of course, me being the screw head growing up influenced
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: by the screw up Click, you know, and then so
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the people influenced by us who came after us, they
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: gonna be you know, definitely man, you know, but I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: don't think they have to. You know, it's not like
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: a monolithic type of style where you know it used
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: to be like when we came up.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: If you didn't sound like this, you're not making it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: You're not making it.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: But there's a you know, there's a lot of artists
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: in Houston that you know, they come with a you know,
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: something different, but you still hear the Houston in them.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: But it's just something different. And I said, I salute
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: them for just doing their thing, whatever it is. You know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: you gotta follow your path, and I just I'm happy
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: to see how it's grown. You know what I'm saying
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: that the hip hop tree is definitely flourishing in Houston.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, you know, I can't think of
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: another market, maybe a land a little bit, but there's
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: no market that I see like Houston where so many
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: artists f with each other and you'll all come out
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: and you'll all support each other. Like I go to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: Houston a lot, and I'll see you. I'll see Thug,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: I see Key Key, I see Zero, I'll see you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: all you guys out together. And why is that there?
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Because you don't see that in New York. You don't
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: see that in Memphis. You don't see that. You see
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: it in Atlanta very little, but you see it in
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: Houston all the time. Like you guys, don't leave Houston.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: We definitely understand the importance.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Of the camaraderie and the unity fun b too, of
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: course for sure. And you know, we definitely, you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: we understand that. So I think that's some of it.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: There's a little competition, you know what I'm saying. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: the pie is only so big, so you know, people's
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: you know, everybody new to get added to the pie.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Everybody else's slice get a little bit smaller, you know.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: But I mean that's just part of it. At the
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: same time, some people kind of get phased out because
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: they move on to other things, or they stop making music,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: or they stop performing or just whatever, you.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: But you know, the funny thing is, anytime we would
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: go to New York, you know, Miami, Florida, anywhere in Florida,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: we go to Atlanta, we go anywhere.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Anytime we go anywhere, the.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Local rap scene will always tell us, Man, it's crabs
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: in a bucket out here. Man, we need to stick
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: together like y'all doing Houston. They always would tell us that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: But then when we come back to Houston. Everybody in
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Houston say, man, we got.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: To come together like they do in Atlanta doing Florida,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, you know what are we doing?
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think some of it is there's a
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: big entitlement of people expecting other people to do for them,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: especially when it comes to artists. Say man, look, I'm
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: not a CEO, I'm not an an R. I'm not
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: trying to sign nobody and put nobody out. My strong
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: suit is being an artist. I'm not a good CEO.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: You do not want to sign to me, you know
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But for some reason in hip hop,
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: we think, you know, another rapper gotta put us on.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be the first one to tell you man,
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it was two DJs to put me on. So if
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: you looking for a deal, go find a DJ, not
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: a rapper. I mean, look, when you've signed to a rapper,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: there are a few rappers who can become moguls or
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: be moguls.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Or whatever and spot talent and sign talent.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: But I mean a lot of the smoking mirrors of
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: the music industry is somebody already signed, they already got
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: a marketing campaign behind them, and they just quote unquote
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: signed to this artist to make it look good, you know,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: but really they already signed the label art they signed
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: artists A, already signed artists B. And they just trying
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: to put you together to just build it up so
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: that they can get a co sign.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: You know, all the artists got a top notch executive
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: with them, Like for example, we ain't always had a
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: test yes you know what I mean.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, you got to somebody who's an an R or
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: somebody who can.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Like help put your stuff together, like and really a
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: bigger picture where they can just you can just do
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: your talent now.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: When there's a lot of you know, expectations and maybe
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: entitlement of up and coming artists, especially when they dope.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: The dope they are, the more entitlement, it seemed like
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: they got you know what I'm saying, where they just
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: expect the world to know who they are and love them.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But I don't know that route.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know the route where the rapper signed you.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know the route where you dope and all
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: of a sudden you snap a finger and you popping.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: The route I know is you work hard, you get
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: told no, you keep working hard, you get told no,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: you keep working hard.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: And eventually you find a way. That's the route I know.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: So anybody you know asking for advice, I could give
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: you some great advice on that. Now, if you want
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: advice on signing to a rapper, you know, you a
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: rapper and you want to sign to another artist, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: don't know that round. All I know is horror stories
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: from people who signed the other rappers who little brow
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: them their whole life, took advantage of them their whole
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: life because they was established. And when you first signed
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: that deal, you signing up all your rights, all your
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: publishing and you know whatever, you know. So I mean,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: I would advise against signing to another rapper, but I
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: mean that's just what we feel like we got to do.
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: So they'll be that's how they judge your you know
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: legacy now too as a rapper. Oh well you know
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: his legacy and that great because he never put nobody on.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, well, you know, there's plenty of people
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: that me slim thug come in. There's plenty of people
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: with Mike Jones. There's plenty of people we put on.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: They just didn't they didn't make it, and that's not
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: our fault. That's just how the nature of the industry goes.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Even for us to make it is THEMN there like
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: a lottery ticket, you know what I'm saying, And because
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: it's more than a one in a million. Man, there's
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: so many rappers out there these days that do not
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: make it. So for somebody to make it, man, it's
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know what it takes, That's
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But all I'm saying is, yeah, definitely,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: it's weird when a lot of people in Houston think that,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: you know, we got to be like the other cities,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: and the other cities think we got to be like Houston,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: and all we really got to do is just keep
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: grinding the findal way.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: I got another Houston question.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: We had Sauce Walker up here and he said that
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: artists he was talking about Drake use Houston for personal game,
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: not talking about Drake specifically, But you think that's valid
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: that a lot of artist hughes Houston for personal game
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: but don't really pull back into the city.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Oh for sure.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean I think back to when DJ
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Screw died, and you know that might have been the
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: first time I really realized it. And you go to
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: concerts and the artist comes in from another city. They
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: could be any city, and this is this would be
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: a regular thing. Every artist comes in, they go on
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: stage and they would say, hey, rest DJ screw just
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: to get the crowd hype and make the crowd like
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: love them.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Of course they say that we love them.
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: But then you talk to them, or you hear them
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: in an interview or whatever or you and you realize
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: they don't even know what DJ crew is, they can't
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: stand the music, they don't like the coach, that they
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: just really doing that to try to like win over
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: the crowd. And it's like, damn, okay, Well, if you
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: really got love for this artist, that artist, why ain't
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: get no songs with him? Why ain't ever brought them
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: on stage? Why ain't never you know, hung out with them,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: took no pictures with them? And you know why, how
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: come when you know the artists come to your city,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: you got love for when you come to the city,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: but when they come to your city, you ain't answering
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: the phone, you know.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: But definitely, I mean it's not just the Houston thing.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I think that's just it's just a you know, a
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: lot of cities do that, you know, because it's just
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: you're trying to get on you want to get love
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: in that city. So it's like, Okay, who's the popping
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: artists that I can shout out or what song is
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: popping right now that I can play?
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think with social media, a lot of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the songs that are popping here are popping everywhere. You know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: it is popping there. You know, everybody's your neighbor now.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: You know, it's not a lot of localness you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: going on because of social media. But for sure, you know,
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: the artists do it. Some of the bigger artists, you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: some of the more strategic, strategic and how they do it.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Some can hide their ulterior motives a little more than others.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: H you know, I'm like, I'm I'm split down the
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: middle on it because part of me I just appreciate
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: that we don't get looked down on like we used to,
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: you know, the Houston culture, you know what I'm saying.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: So even if someone's faking it, I just appreciate that
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: they showing us love, you know. But then there's the
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: flip side of well, if you really got loved for us?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: Why you ain't got no songs or no stars?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: This and that?
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: You know, then the other flip side is this, you
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: know some of these artists who they say.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: They don't have you know, all this person doesn't know songs, Well,
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: they do have songs with Houston artists, it's just not
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: you know, I don't know because I'm one of those
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: people where they used to always get on Travis Scott.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: I gotta I'm on Travis Scott's song.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: So every time someone say, man, how come Travis Scott
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: ain't never putting a boy from you songs out?
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: And I'll be like, well, damn, what about me? So
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: I make it just brought you off to Yeah yeah, yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: yeah for sure.
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I mean the other side too, is that, you know,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: when it comes to this, some of these artists be
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: on to come up, and you know, like I might
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: have had an opportunity to, you know, to do something
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: with this artists when they want to come up, but
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, I don't.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Well, now the artist blows up. Remember that, I remember
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: that I lost my opportunity. That's my chance. You know,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: there's a window opportunity. I lost it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I mean it is what it is.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: It's all good, you know, and that's not just with me.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: That's what anybody is on and somebody trying to come
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: up under you.
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: So but you can't put everybody on though, So yeah,
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: and like like I said, you can try your heart
• 44:58
  Speaker 7: ist to put somebody on and they still don't you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: you know, we can't choose what the people gonna like.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Now you dealt with a lot of traumas in
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: your life. And I was watching a podcast where you
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: sit down with Quincy and Fuzzy and you opened up
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: about your logical dad, who was, you said, a serial
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: child molester.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, what effect did that have on you?
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: That had a huge effect on me one, growing up
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: with a single mother, having a very small family.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: It made us, you know, tight knit.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: It made me appreciate family, It made me always want family.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: It made me aware I was hyper aware of you know,
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: like the molestation type of stuff, you know. And it
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: also made me become an advocate, you know, as I
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: got older in life. You know our teeno, my girl
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: Ms Parker from Parents Against Predators. We do a lot
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: in the community just in regards to that, but just personally,
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: what it did to me was from as long as
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I can remember. It instilled something in to me to say,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna be a good father. No matter what, I'm
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: gonna be a good father. I'm not gonna let anything
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: come between me and my kids.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: I hope one.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I used to pray for one day to have kids
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: like I Literally I tell my kids all the time
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: on their birthdays, like, man, I used to pray for you,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: you know. So it always would make me like want
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: to be a good father and made me want to
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: be the best father I could be. Also meant that
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: interview too. After that interview came out, I found out
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: I got a cousin because somebody.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Seen it and it was like, hey, we saw you
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: thought your aunt, no cousin.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You got a cousin.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: So, you know, I'm real grateful for that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: I got to, you know, my cutshoute to my cousin
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: Jeana and her whole family of kids, all of them.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it definitely was something that you know, was
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: heavy on me my whole life. Also, you know, it
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: makes you realize that some people are walking around with
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: trauma and you don't know it, you know. So it
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: makes you, you know, just because somebody has a smile,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: doesn't mean they're happy. You know, just because somebody has
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: a frown or a mean look doesn't mean they're mad
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: at you. They could be going through something. So you know,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: it just it just it definitely taught me a lot.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and your mom was a strong woman. You said
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: your mom had y'all so scared that your dad would
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: come and kidnap you. Oh yeah, yeah, because he had
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: kidnapped the woman and married her.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he kidnapped her. He kidnapped her a woman.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this girl was twelve years old and he
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: kidnapped when she was fifteen. And I don't know, man,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: he got some type of judge to sign off on
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: the marriage, took her to Canada. Then next thing, you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: something happened. They came back. You know, it's a tragic story.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: She ended up committing suicide when she came back, and
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: you know, it's sad. The crazy thing about dad is
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: that at that time, you know, we would see my
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: father on the weekend, my biological follow on the weekends
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: or every other weekend. So sometimes we go over there
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: and it'd be like, oh, his new girlfriend's over there,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: and I'm you know, four years old, I don't know.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: You know, but it's a twelve year old in the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: wig would make up.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: You know. We know that now, but at the time
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: we don't know that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I'm just thinking, oh, this is my dad's you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: girlfriend or something, and it's it's so crazy to think
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: like that. Damn you that close to you know that,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: but you know, four years old, you do. You don't
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: even know what's wrong, you know what's going on, but
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: it's just it's it's tragic, just you know. Of course
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: that was my biological father, so it was hard for me,
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: but I mean, of course it's worse for the girl,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, or whoever he did something too.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: So I never looked at myself like I was like
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: a victim or like even the trauma I experienced, I
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: kind of like put it under the rug. I feel
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: more for the victims that he hurt, you know what
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like, damn, like what about them?
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really look at it like my own.
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: But for sure my mom she used to We used
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to walk around with an air horn like tied around
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: my neck so that if you man, this is when
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: kindergarten cop came out to and then you get it.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: So I was sure terrified that I was.
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Gonna get kidnapped. And I remember one time one time
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: me and my sister went home. He was like during
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: the summer or it was like something when my mom
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: was doing something and we just at home, and I
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: remember my biological dad came to the door, knocked on the.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Door, and I went and looked at the people, and
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I remember being so scared. I could not move.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there just like, oh what do I do.
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: I couldn't move, and I'm scared to move. We're gonna
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: see me or whatever. Man, I'll never forget that. But yeah,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: my mama definitely she had us prepared.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. She had us prepared.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: The album effected album comes out this Friday, and what
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: is it still tip to a driving?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I mean it's still tipping to It came and went
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: like one show, we didn't do nothing.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean we did.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: We did one show. You Mike Jones slipped up.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: I mean just it started off and we did the
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Texans halftime show and I kind of said it, yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I kind of said it like almost like as.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: A joke, like hey, we tour, but when we when
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: we said that, our phone started blowing up.
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: We had people live and they all kinds of people
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: more a d everybody just hitting us, trying to want
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: to book twenty shows right now, how much I want?
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Took ten shows, this and.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: That, but together we couldn't get it together.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I wish you could, but we couldn't get together.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: That's why you spoke too earlier about just kind of plan.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: I did something like that, like before I got this job, right, I.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: Was like, Yo, I'm the whole of the breakfast. Ain't
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: even pick me up, you know what I'm saying. And
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: then I thought I didn't get the jokes.
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: I'm like, damn, maybe I should. I'm here today, ship
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: maybe we maybe we might get something. Were coming to
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: the famous club off Jones, Slim.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: I got, I do I one more questions? She's my
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: last question? Yes, sir, little flip. I mean when t
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: I this little flip he mentioned your name in there, right,
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: I always felt like conflicted exactly. I want to ask
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: that because that's what kind of blew you up. And
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: everybody was like maybe the hardest grill level.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, man, man, I remember being by you Classic
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: in New Orleans and people being like passing out flyers
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: and somebody saying, hey, I might have been passing out
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: my own, you know, my album or you know, buy
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: some grills. I remember people being like, paw, hey you
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: doing with T I like, and it being like, damn, okay,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: they my boy got some reach, you know this when
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: he was just before he blew up.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Of course he got reached. Now he just reaches. But legend,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: that was the hard.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: Part because me and Flip being friends too as well.
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: It's like, damn, of course Flip gonna feel a certain way.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: You know, he's gonna be like, damn, you're rocking with him.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: That's how it is.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: And of course he's gonna feel a way. There's no
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: way he couldn't.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: And you know I could be like, well, yeah, we're friends,
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: but I'm not choosing inside, I mean, I don't know
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: what to do, you know what I'm saying. It just
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: put me in a tough situation. I mean, the way
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: I dealt with is I just you know, laid low.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Try to stay out of it.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I really tried not to do too much explaining publicly
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: because a lot of times that just make it worse.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: It seemed like, you know, but it definitely put me
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: in a hard spot, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: Good for business, though, it was good for business, definitely,
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: definitely t I definitely gave when he gave me that,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: I turned the bling down in your mouth.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely was good for business.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: But but I mean, at the same time, Little Flip
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: probably was like, man, I ain't never get no grill from.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Well. I mean even then he wasn't getting them from me.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Johnny was still kind of making them, but you know,
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: he was getting them from the other people or whatever.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: I definitely would make him a grill. Flip on the grill.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I got you, bro, I got you to speak, yes
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: for sure. Matter of fact.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: But one of the songs on the album swang Down
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: with Zero. We recorded that song on Zero's birthday of
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: this year's birthday. His birthdays like January twenty JANIU twenty first,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: I think it's twenty first, And we recorded it at
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: zero house.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: You will say, say, man, my birthday, come to the house.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: We drinking and ating. Come through.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I said, came through, and you know I had the song.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: He's like, hey, let's not got this song. A little
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: Flip actually was his engineer.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: It recorded it. I see Flip all the time for
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: the show man Flip. We boy. He's still my big bro.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Of course he came were the same age, but he
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: came out before me.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: You know. He definitely put on for Houston a lot,
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know, even still
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: when I see if was like, damn, I hope he
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: ain't hold it over my head. But if he do,
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, I can't blame him because I get it,
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But you know it's that's
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: definitely my boy, man. You know, it ain't no hard feel.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: It's on my side. Of course, if you want a
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: gril I got, I got you flipped up man, you know.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: But yeah, it's definitely definitely made it a little weird.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Let's get into a joint off that what you want
• 53:10
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  Speaker 2: Ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club