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Padres eyeing Dodgers, 1st female MLB ump, Platoon benching, Guards let Gavin Williams eat! · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: Look at this screw today. We got Kevin Pilar, Cam Mayben.
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Speaker 1: My ears already falling off.
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Speaker 2: Plar.
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Speaker 1: You might be looking like you're from the nineteen nineties
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Speaker 1: a little bit today, but that's okay. Throwback quality. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're a throwback today. So if anyone's looking at him like,
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Speaker 1: hey it he looks a little bit like my favorite
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Speaker 1: hitcom in nineteen ninety four, that's okay, that's okay. It's
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Speaker 1: part of the retro vibes today.
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Speaker 2: How you been, man, I'm good.
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Speaker 3: I'm good. I just got back in town. You know,
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Speaker 3: sorry about the bat internet connection. They cut my internet
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Speaker 3: line at the street and they're supposed to be fixing
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Speaker 3: it today. So I'm running a little hotspot right now.
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Speaker 1: They're okay, we hear you. Good, okay. And Cam's been
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Speaker 1: there before, looking nice and crisp today.
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Speaker 4: Cam, Oh yeah, I'm locked in.
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Speaker 5: I had a nice little conference call at Team Mobiles
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Speaker 5: on him. I had to say, hey, foul Territory doesn't
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Speaker 5: stop just because you guys are not doing your job.
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Speaker 5: And I also pay my bill early, you know. Mike
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Speaker 5: Mark said, So I'm cooking right now, man. I checked
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Speaker 5: my I did my speed test. I'm cooking right now,
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Speaker 5: so let's keep it going.
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Speaker 2: Paying your bills always helps, it never hurt, always.
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Speaker 4: Helps, never never hurts. The fame on time too.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 1: Before we start, I do want to shout out a
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Speaker 1: special moment coming up this weekend. Jen Powal is going
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Speaker 1: to be the first female umpire to a regular season game.
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Speaker 1: We've got the Braves and the Marlins. It's on Saturday.
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Speaker 1: It's really cool. So there's been moments where we've had
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Speaker 1: a female umpire in a spring training game and other
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Speaker 1: scenarios in the minor leagues, but this one will be
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Speaker 1: in a regular season game. Long overdue. She's forty eight
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Speaker 1: years old, she's been through the rank, she was a
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Speaker 1: former college softball player and then has spent a lot
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Speaker 1: of time as an ump cam.
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Speaker 4: This is cool, This is this is awesome.
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Speaker 5: I saw this last night as I was watching the
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Speaker 5: Padres take on the Diamondbacks, and I thought, you know,
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Speaker 5: like you say, Scott, long overdue. When you look at
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Speaker 5: some of the other sports in the NBA, the NFL soccer,
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Speaker 5: you look around the league and you have women that
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Speaker 5: have already, you know, taken this step.
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Speaker 4: So this is this is great.
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Speaker 5: Shout out to her for her love of the game
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Speaker 5: or passion, her consistency, and I'm excited to watch man.
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Speaker 5: I know this will be a big moment for emilb
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Speaker 5: and and for her and her family as well.
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Speaker 3: KP what he got, Yeah, I much like he said,
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Speaker 3: long overdue, But I'm I'm also very happy that it
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Speaker 3: wasn't given to her, that it was earned. I'm a
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Speaker 3: big believer in you know, no matter what you're doing,
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Speaker 3: you got to go out and earn it. And obviously,
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Speaker 3: forty eight years old, she's paid her dues, She's worked
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Speaker 3: herself up from you know, probably instructional league all the
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Speaker 3: way up through Triple A and now getting a chance
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Speaker 3: to call a game behind and play It's really cool.
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Speaker 1: Did either of you ever play a minor league game
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Speaker 1: where there was a female umpire, because I know there
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Speaker 1: are some in the minor leagues.
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Speaker 3: In training, go.
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Speaker 4: Ahead, Yeah, I was gonna say I did not. I
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Speaker 4: did not. I don't. I don't remember it at all.
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Speaker 5: I don't remember spring training or even my last year
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Speaker 5: in Triple A. I don't remember it at all. So
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Speaker 5: I'm excited about this is I think this is awesome
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Speaker 5: for the game.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had seen a couple in spring training this year,
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Speaker 3: not behind home plate, they were doing the bases. But
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Speaker 3: once again, yeah, obviously it's important to make a big
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Speaker 3: deal about it, but once again, I'm a big believer
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Speaker 3: in earning it. They've earned it and we should celebrate it.
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Speaker 3: But after today, you got to treat her like every
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Speaker 3: other umpire.
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, that's what she wants. So after
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Speaker 2: she played college ball, she.
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Speaker 1: Was umpiring in NCAA softball from twenty ten to twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: MLB invited her to an umpire training academy, and then
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Speaker 1: because she had had a try out in August of
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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, just like you said, KP gets into rookie
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Speaker 1: ball in twenty sixteen, moves up the rank, gets to
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Speaker 1: Triple A in twenty twenty three, and then last year
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Speaker 1: became the first female I'M to work a spring training
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Speaker 1: game since Reat Cortesio in two thousand and seven.
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Speaker 2: That was a big gap there.
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Speaker 1: And then later in the twenty season, she was named
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Speaker 1: a crew chief, eventually to the call up list for
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Speaker 1: the major league level, and that's why we're at this
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Speaker 1: point now where she gets that call up for Saturday's game.
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Speaker 2: So cool.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on it on the weekend. Let's
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Speaker 1: charge charge about all those San Diego Padres are coming
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Speaker 1: in hot cam, your former team making it a little
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Speaker 1: two game deficit in the National League West with plenty
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Speaker 1: of time and some games against the Dodgers still to go.
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Speaker 1: But they had a nice comeback win yesterday. And you
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Speaker 1: know what helps trade editions like Ryan o'hearen hitting a
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Speaker 1: home run in the ninth inning off a bad bullpen,
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Speaker 1: and what the Diamondbacks have and a nasty bullpen and
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Speaker 1: what the Padres have, so they get another run in
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Speaker 1: extras and then they win it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I was sitting back watching that game, two to one
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Speaker 5: going into that last inning, and sure enough, there you go,
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Speaker 5: hanging slider. Ron O'Hearn comes through big, and you know,
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Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken. That was his first homer against the
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Speaker 5: lefty right. So I just like all the things that
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Speaker 5: are going on right now, the synergy, the chemistry, that's
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Speaker 5: togetherness that the Padres are playing with, and and and Scotty.
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Speaker 4: You know, my favorite thing about the.
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Speaker 5: Padres is we talked about it with the Brewers. They
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Speaker 5: know how to manufacture runs.
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Speaker 4: You see a Jose Glacias, I mean.
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Speaker 5: Throwing out singles, bogie starting to swing it. Well, you know,
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Speaker 5: he's getting hot. I love the Freddy Forermen acquisition. Right,
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Speaker 5: that's the one that's that nobody's gonna talk about. Freddy
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Speaker 5: Verman is gonna be the guy that somewhere down the
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Speaker 5: stretch when you need a big win, you need to
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Speaker 5: get a guy over.
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Speaker 4: He's gonna lay down a bunch.
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Speaker 5: He's gonna do a baseball play type of thing that's
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Speaker 5: gonna propel the Padres. So I just love all the
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Speaker 5: moves and right, you know, hughe Ron and her to
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Speaker 5: come up. But I think this is just bigger than
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Speaker 5: just one or two pieces. I mean they they covered
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Speaker 5: so many holes across the board, depth, arms, chemistry, the
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Speaker 5: right type of characters.
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Speaker 4: This was fun to watch.
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Speaker 1: They've even got the mister Clutch from last year, Jose Glacias,
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Speaker 1: who came through in extras too. I mean, he was
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Speaker 1: steadying signed back with the Mets. Mets didn't want him
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Speaker 1: and he's like, my dream is to be in the
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Speaker 1: NLCS this year and have a big clutch knock against
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Speaker 1: the mass.
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Speaker 4: Every off season.
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry kp On much you go, but just think
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Speaker 5: about this every offseason. Here we are talking about Jose
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Speaker 5: Iglacias signing.
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Speaker 4: Minor league deals. What are we doing here?
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Speaker 5: We are every year talking about oh La Luisa Rise
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Speaker 5: and his defense, and he doesn't hit the homers and
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Speaker 5: he's gonna win like his third or four three batting
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Speaker 5: titles in the row.
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Speaker 4: Like, let's start to.
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Speaker 5: Celebrate the baseball players, right, the guys who played the
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Speaker 5: game and make winning plays.
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Speaker 4: And I'm tired of hearing about what these guys don't
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Speaker 4: do well.
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Speaker 5: They continue to be clutch, and the Padres and aj Peeler,
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Speaker 5: they very much value these guys.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say good for Ryan O'Hearn. You know,
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Speaker 3: when you get traded mid midseason, you're kind of just
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Speaker 3: looking for that moment where you feel like you belong
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Speaker 3: on your new team. There's a lot of pressure getting
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Speaker 3: traded over a team, especially a team like the Padres
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Speaker 3: that have goals of winning a World Series. And for
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Speaker 3: him to step up first home run against the left
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Speaker 3: handed picture right there, And I don't really I didn't
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Speaker 3: really get a chance to see the game. I don't
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Speaker 3: know what the bench looked like that in that situation.
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Speaker 3: You know, probably wasn't getting a lot of chances against
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Speaker 3: left handers in Baltimore, and that's just something that just
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Speaker 3: gives him confidence where the Padres are like, it's the
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Speaker 3: ninth inning, you're our guy, we brought you over here
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Speaker 3: for this reason. For him to hit a big home
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Speaker 3: run whether like that, it's cool to see. And you know,
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Speaker 3: we talked about the Dodgers early in the season, a
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Speaker 3: team where you look at their roster and it's just
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Speaker 3: star after star after star after star, and the Padres
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Speaker 3: are short quickly shortening that gap. You could talk about
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Speaker 3: the Padres lineup and it's star after star after star,
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Speaker 3: and they also have those glue guys you talked about
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Speaker 3: the Jose Iglesias. I know what it's like to be undervalued, underappreciated.
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Speaker 3: Some of the most important things you do don't show
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Speaker 3: up on a stat sheet. It's hard to quantify clutch,
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Speaker 3: it's hard to quantify clubhouse chemistry and culture, and you know,
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Speaker 3: just being a good teammate. It's gonna be an interesting
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Speaker 3: race down the stretch.
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Speaker 1: from O, her new addition to the team, and usually
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Speaker 1: a really good interview we've had him on Nice and
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Speaker 1: Simple Cam. He goes, this is the deepest lineup I've
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Speaker 1: ever been a part of. Now, remember he was on
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Speaker 1: the Ools this year. He's been on the Orioles I
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Speaker 1: think at least last year, if not the year before
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Speaker 1: as well. So some Orioles teams that could bang a
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Speaker 1: little bit. But he he did not hesitate. He was
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Speaker 1: very clear, this is the team, not the one I
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Speaker 1: was on.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, And then when I look at the word deep,
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Speaker 5: you know, I said it the other day, Scotty.
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Speaker 4: The details matter.
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Speaker 5: And when I talk about deep, they don't just wait
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Speaker 5: around for the homer, right, They really stretch out a rotation,
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Speaker 5: They really stretch out a bullpen. They have team at bats, right,
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Speaker 5: You're seeing guys fighting when they get to two strikes,
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Speaker 5: you know, turning the two count into a seven, eight, nine,
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Speaker 5: ten pitch at bat. Like those are the type of
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Speaker 5: you know, quality of at bats that make that depth
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Speaker 5: really serious. Instead of just waiting for the home or
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Speaker 5: waiting for that guy to hit a home run or
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Speaker 5: do something big, they have a way to may affect
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Speaker 5: the runs and just really drain the life out.
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Speaker 4: Of a rotation and a bullpen, as you saw last night.
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Speaker 5: So I think that's that's what he means when he
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Speaker 5: talks about death as well as KP talking about the
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Speaker 5: you know, the stars in that line up, they're really
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Speaker 5: starting to play just like they are stars.
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Speaker 1: Do old teammates care when someone says that, you know,
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Speaker 1: he was on the twenty three and twenty four to
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Speaker 1: Oer's that made the playoffs, KP or you're like, hey,
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Speaker 1: good for him, I'm happy for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean when you get traded or when
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Speaker 3: you play on a new team, you got to be
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Speaker 3: all in. And I'd like to see that as he's
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Speaker 3: just being all in. This is not like he's not
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Speaker 3: throwing shade. It's easy for us to sit here. Or
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Speaker 3: if I'm an Orioles fan, you know, how dare he
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Speaker 3: say that? Like what else is a player supposed to do?
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Speaker 3: He gets traded to a new place, a microphone gets
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Speaker 3: stuck in his face, He's coming off this super emotional
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Speaker 3: home run, he finally feels like he belongs. He probably
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Speaker 3: get asked a question, is this a deepest lineup you've
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Speaker 3: ever been a part of? And he probably says, yeah,
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Speaker 3: this is the deepest lineup I've ever been a part of.
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Speaker 3: And that's not throwing shade at the team he was
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Speaker 3: previously on. That's just him showing his commitment to his
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Speaker 3: new team, wanting to be part of the boys.
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Speaker 1: Hey, one more component for you, cam Michael King, who
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Speaker 1: can pitch like a number one if he's feeling good,
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Speaker 1: scheduled for Saturday, and they're playing the Red Sox on Saturday,
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Speaker 1: so he should be back for the stretch rud and
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Speaker 1: he's feeling all right.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and right now, I'm sure he's in a place
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Speaker 5: where they've taken their time.
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Speaker 4: He's feeling good, he's feeling healthy. And this is like
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Speaker 4: a late trade line, uh, you know, acquisition. And you
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Speaker 4: talk about Michael King.
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Speaker 5: So we talk about Mason Miller coming in shutting the
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Speaker 5: door last night. We know how dominant the bullpen is being,
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Speaker 5: and then you add this guy back to the rotation.
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Speaker 5: It just, you know, I think it bowls, you know,
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Speaker 5: well for the Padres. And I'm you know, I'll say
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Speaker 5: it right now, I think they will end up winning
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Speaker 5: this division because more than anything, they're healthy right now.
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Speaker 5: But I love the chemistry that they're playing with. Like
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Speaker 5: KP said, there's no Statford character, chemistry and camaraderie.
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Speaker 4: So and this is the most together I've seen them in.
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Speaker 5: The last two years. I talked about it last year.
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Speaker 5: Mike shild coming in really has brought the boys together.
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Speaker 5: And I really believe teams go how their manager goes.
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Speaker 5: And he's the type of guy you show up every
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Speaker 5: day and you're excited to come to the ballpark and
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Speaker 5: play for and you see them these guys.
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Speaker 1: Okay, pop quiz At the finish line here, I want
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Speaker 1: you guys to tell me which team you like better
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Speaker 1: for the regular season, because I think they're both playoff teams,
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Speaker 1: and which team you like better in October? You can
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Speaker 1: have different answers here. Which team do you think wins
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Speaker 1: the National League West? And do you think is better
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Speaker 1: for a regular season run? Now, remember you tighten things
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Speaker 1: up in the playoffs. You don't have to worry about
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Speaker 1: your number five start or stuff like that. Right, So,
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Speaker 1: I think there's a big difference. I've done that sometimes,
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Speaker 1: Like last year we're talking about the Phillies and the Mets.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, Phillies I like better in the regular season,
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Speaker 1: Mets I like better than the playoffs.
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Speaker 2: That's how that plays out.
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Speaker 1: So with the Dodgers and the padres KP, what do
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Speaker 1: you like regular season?
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Speaker 2: What do you like October?
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Speaker 3: This might shock some people here, but I think I
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Speaker 3: like the Padres better in the regular season because I
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Speaker 3: do think it means more to them to win a
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Speaker 3: division than it does to the Dodgers. And in a
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Speaker 3: playoff series where we're standing right now, the way both
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Speaker 3: teams are playing, I think I would have to take
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Speaker 3: the Padres too. And I just look at how deep
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Speaker 3: their bullpen is. It's a healthy bullpen. And when the Dodgers'
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Speaker 3: bullpen is healthy, it can be as good as the
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Speaker 3: Padres bullpen. But I think about the bullpen of the
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Speaker 3: Padres and how good it is and how deep it is,
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Speaker 3: and they have five legitimate closures on the back end.
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Speaker 3: You can shorten the game in a postseason series.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Cam. Do you feel the same way.
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Speaker 5: Hey, my boy said it, Superman said it. I think
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Speaker 5: it's that simple. I mean, I'm looking at it all
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Speaker 5: in totality. I'm looking at even right now, from beginning
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Speaker 5: to end, what Mookie Betts has went through.
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Speaker 4: Right That's one of their key pieces, that's one of
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Speaker 4: the cornerstones.
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Speaker 5: I just think sometimes you have seasons, like you know,
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Speaker 5: Mookie maybe have, not saying he won't get it together,
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Speaker 5: but just things just feel right for the Padres. And
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Speaker 5: then KP said it, when you talk about being able
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Speaker 5: to shorten game, shorten the game and make it a
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Speaker 5: five inning game, the Padres have just that. I mean,
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Speaker 5: if somebody gets in trouble at the bullpen, they can
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Speaker 5: go to another guy, they can go to another guy.
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Speaker 5: They don't have to to wish and hope that hey,
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Speaker 5: this guy figures it out a pit a batter or
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Speaker 5: two from now. And I just think that that lineup
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Speaker 5: I like right now. I love the pieces that they added. Defensively,
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Speaker 5: I think they're better. I think the starting rotation is
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Speaker 5: better right now. I don't know how healthy those guys
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Speaker 5: will be. And then too, just just coming coming into
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Speaker 5: the season on the back end, thinking that these guys
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Speaker 5: are gonna dominate, you know, the snails of the world
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Speaker 5: and some of the other guys that they'll have coming back. Yeah,
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Speaker 5: I'm leaning towards the Padres on both ends for sure.
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Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards the Padres as well.
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Speaker 1: I think they've got five guys that can close out games,
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Speaker 1: and the Dodgers have a really strong bullpen too. I
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Speaker 1: just haven't seen something talent wise like what the Padres
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Speaker 1: are bringing to the table with their bullpen, even if
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Speaker 1: the Dodgers have a little edge I think on offense.
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Speaker 1: The other thing I look at is how does Michael
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Speaker 1: King look over the next weekend or a month and
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Speaker 1: a half, Because if he looks like the Michael King
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Speaker 1: that we used to see a year and a half,
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Speaker 1: then KP. I mean that's a number one starter and
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Speaker 1: he was dominant from what I remember in the playoffs
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Speaker 1: last year.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean health is the big thing. I mean,
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Speaker 3: we talked about the Padres bullpen. They're healthy right now.
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Speaker 3: If you get the Dodgers' bullpen healthy, which is a
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Speaker 3: big if you know, you got Kirby Eate's out, you
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Speaker 3: got Tanner, Scott out, Blake Training's coming back. I mean
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Speaker 3: I take those three in the back end of a
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Speaker 3: bullpen any day of the week. But the question is
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Speaker 3: are they going to be healthy? Are they going to
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Speaker 3: be able to kind of get into mid season form?
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Speaker 3: You know, we're almost entering September here, you know, we're
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Speaker 3: getting close to the end of the season. Are they
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Speaker 3: gonna have enough time to you know, get ready and
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Speaker 3: get back into you know, closing shape. I Mean that's
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Speaker 3: the question that I need to needs to be answered
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Speaker 3: to me.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen not to mention.
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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the Padres just have
15:58
Speaker 5: the not only do they have a bullpen, they have
16:00
Speaker 5: the depth like KPC. I mean they have you named five,
16:03
Speaker 5: but they had I mean nobody talking about more Home.
16:06
Speaker 5: I mean he was an All Star, right like that
16:07
Speaker 5: dude can come in and get left these alrighty's out.
16:10
Speaker 5: There's so many places you can go to. I just
16:12
Speaker 5: I just think, I mean, you know what, I've said
16:15
Speaker 5: it before. We very rarely, we haven't had a back
16:17
Speaker 5: to back World Cities champion, So it just it feels
16:20
Speaker 5: like the Padres time right now, I think, And I
16:21
Speaker 5: don't think they're afraid anymore, right, I know that the
16:23
Speaker 5: Dodgers have the history behind them, the winning pedigree, but
16:27
Speaker 5: the I think the Padres they just when you watch
16:29
Speaker 5: them play, you see something different. You talked about the
16:32
Speaker 5: KP talking talked about it last night. I was watching
16:34
Speaker 5: the game when O'Hearn hit that homer. Manny Machado, you
16:38
Speaker 5: know he's unk now in the locker room. Is like,
16:40
Speaker 5: not only is he coming outside, he's climbing over the
16:43
Speaker 5: railing right like he could have went to the stab.
16:44
Speaker 5: But like dudes are excited and hype and playing for
16:47
Speaker 5: each other. It looks like your at bat means just
16:50
Speaker 5: as much to me as it means to you. And
16:52
Speaker 5: when you have that going, man, when you when you
16:54
Speaker 5: have guys showing up and really rooting for each other,
16:57
Speaker 5: if it starts to create something special, and you add,
17:00
Speaker 5: like Mason Miller, these are clubhouse guys. These aren't just
17:03
Speaker 5: talented guys, their character guys. And you just continue to
17:06
Speaker 5: add character with the talent you're spelling. You're spelling, you
17:10
Speaker 5: know something special. It's something special, Bruin.
17:14
Speaker 1: And these teams don't love each other, which is nice
17:16
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17:20
Speaker 1: These two teams have respect, but they do not like
17:22
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Speaker 2: It's genuine. Mason Miller told us about that the other day.
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Speaker 1: a base here and there. I mean, he's becoming one
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19:16
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19:23
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Speaker 1: Almost a no hitter for Gavin Williams. Took his no
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Speaker 1: no into the ninth inning on Friday, was just about there.
20:50
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Speaker 1: for that. But we were talking about this at the end,
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Speaker 1: I think of yesterday show and then even in our
21:01
Speaker 1: post production meeting, we were all watching him deal in
21:04
Speaker 1: Queens against the Mets one hundred eleven pitches? Did either
21:08
Speaker 1: of you play with Steven Vote?
21:10
Speaker 4: Either of your teammates with I did brief stint.
21:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, you both did, okay, So Cam, did you like
21:17
Speaker 1: this voter was letting them eat one hundred eleven pitches?
21:21
Speaker 1: Ninth inning, He's like, go for it, and then you
21:23
Speaker 1: know what was even more surprising to me, after he
21:25
Speaker 1: gives up the homer, he still left him in the game.
21:28
Speaker 1: And then there was the walk, so he's like, okay
21:31
Speaker 1: at that point he got taken out. But it was
21:34
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six pitches, most pitches thrown any
21:38
Speaker 1: game this year, eight and two thirds innings. Couldn't complete
21:41
Speaker 1: it for the complete game. I had to have someone
21:43
Speaker 1: come in and obviously clean it up, But I mean,
21:45
Speaker 1: what a performance eight and two thirds, a hit, four walks,
21:48
Speaker 1: six strikeouts. Are you surprised not only that he let
21:51
Speaker 1: him go in the ninth, but then after he gives
21:52
Speaker 1: up the homer de Soto, that he still let him
21:55
Speaker 1: try and finish that thing.
21:57
Speaker 5: I wasn't just because I know Voter. Voter understands the game.
22:01
Speaker 5: He's he's the guy who's had his feet to the dirt. Uh,
22:03
Speaker 5: And he's one of the brightest guys that I've ever
22:05
Speaker 5: played with. And I think he just understood the moment.
22:07
Speaker 5: And it was a moment for for Williams right there
22:09
Speaker 5: out there dealing in Queen's I mean, young guy, he's showing,
22:12
Speaker 5: he showed.
22:13
Speaker 4: Us glimpses, glimpses of this type of stuff.
22:15
Speaker 5: But I just just think it's one of those things
22:17
Speaker 5: where where Voter read the room. He's been in these
22:20
Speaker 5: in these situations, he's been behind a dish and and.
22:23
Speaker 4: He watched the game.
22:24
Speaker 5: He understands, Hey, my guy, you know, got beat by
22:26
Speaker 5: one of the best in the game, and this is
22:28
Speaker 5: his game. You know, this is his game, you know,
22:30
Speaker 5: So he tried to let him go as far as
22:32
Speaker 5: he could. And I love that, And I love that
22:34
Speaker 5: confidence that it builds in the young guy. And I
22:37
Speaker 5: love what bote, what Steven continues to show as a
22:40
Speaker 5: leader man.
22:40
Speaker 4: He's a leader of men, and.
22:42
Speaker 5: And I love that. I think the Guardians have that
22:44
Speaker 5: trust to him as well. I don't think it was
22:45
Speaker 5: any backlash, you know, from the front office. I think
22:47
Speaker 5: this is one of those things where they trust voter
22:49
Speaker 5: and uh and and I think you know, this is
22:51
Speaker 5: a great moment for for him and and and Williams
22:54
Speaker 5: to continue to grow together as as manager and player.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a bit surprised they allowed him to
23:02
Speaker 3: go after hitting the home run, but I'm very happy
23:04
Speaker 3: that they did allow him to go. First of all,
23:08
Speaker 3: I love Stephen Voe as a friend, as a person,
23:11
Speaker 3: I'm very happy he's in this position. He's a tremendous
23:14
Speaker 3: he was a tremendous teammate, he was a tremendous leader.
23:17
Speaker 3: And there's no surprise he's in a position that he's
23:19
Speaker 3: in right now. That being said, he also played. He
23:23
Speaker 3: was a catcher. He understands the moment, he understands the situation.
23:27
Speaker 3: He used his eyeballs, he used not only his coaching eyeballs,
23:29
Speaker 3: But it's catching eyeballs to understand that his picture. Regardless
23:33
Speaker 3: of the pitch count, he was still dealing. And what
23:35
Speaker 3: I love even more is he does give up the
23:38
Speaker 3: home run and instead of walking out there and being
23:41
Speaker 3: like a great job, you know eight and two thirds,
23:44
Speaker 3: you give up this home run. You know, let him
23:46
Speaker 3: try to get out of it, you know, don't let
23:48
Speaker 3: him walk off with man. I wouldn't be upset if
23:50
Speaker 3: I was a pitcher. I'd be disappointed. You know, you
23:52
Speaker 3: get so close to doing it and then you give
23:54
Speaker 3: up a home run. You know, that's the last pitch
23:56
Speaker 3: you throw, is giving up a home run where you
23:58
Speaker 3: haven't given up a hit the whole game. Give him
24:00
Speaker 3: a chance to get out of it, and he did,
24:02
Speaker 3: you know. Unfortunately he had a walk after it, and
24:04
Speaker 3: at that point you make a decision that's go out.
24:06
Speaker 3: But also really classy by the Mets fans too. You know,
24:10
Speaker 3: I played for the Mets. They can be tough on
24:13
Speaker 3: you as a home player. They can definitely be tough
24:16
Speaker 3: on you as a visiting player. But I love to
24:18
Speaker 3: see when just good fans at baseball understand read the room,
24:23
Speaker 3: understand the magnitude of the situation. You know, that doesn't
24:26
Speaker 3: mean you don't want to win a game. You just
24:29
Speaker 3: have to be a fan of baseball. And sometimes when
24:30
Speaker 3: you're in the stands and you're close to witnessing something
24:34
Speaker 3: as great as a no hitter, you have to just
24:36
Speaker 3: stand up and show your respects.
24:38
Speaker 2: That's right, standing up for Mets fans. And they got their.
24:41
Speaker 1: Booze in too, because after each inning, especially as the
24:44
Speaker 1: game was going on, when he would slice and dice,
24:47
Speaker 1: they were boomed because they had a hitless streak that
24:50
Speaker 1: was going into this one from the last game. I
24:53
Speaker 1: think it ended at fourteen innings, so they were feeling
24:57
Speaker 1: it a little bit up until the ninth. But I
24:58
Speaker 1: agree with you. I mean, it's to see a fan
25:00
Speaker 1: base understand the moment and how rare it is. And
25:03
Speaker 1: by the way, Cam Cleveland Guardians fans and Indians before that,
25:07
Speaker 1: fans have not experienced this since Len Barker perfect game
25:12
Speaker 1: May fifteenth, nineteen eighty one is the last time that
25:16
Speaker 1: they've had a no hitter. It's the longest act of
25:18
Speaker 1: no hitter drought in baseball.
25:21
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys get paid to not get out. Scott do that, man,
25:26
Speaker 5: That's why you know, when you see these feats, there
25:28
Speaker 5: are special moments, man, and I think that's why we
25:31
Speaker 5: have to celebrate them like we do in our game,
25:32
Speaker 5: because we know how difficult it is to go through
25:35
Speaker 5: a lineup that many times, and you're always going to have.
25:38
Speaker 4: A little bit of luck on your side as well.
25:40
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, but I again, guys like Williams,
25:44
Speaker 5: you know, I don't think they're far from getting one,
25:46
Speaker 5: you know, in there in near future.
25:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, why does it always feel like it's a home
25:51
Speaker 3: run too? Can it just be like a you know,
25:55
Speaker 3: blue it's like one of the other. It's either a
25:57
Speaker 3: home run or like a weekly hit ball, And you're
26:00
Speaker 3: like holding your breath, like if I'm a picture and
26:03
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give up a hit, can it just be
26:05
Speaker 3: like a you know, a clean base hit up the middle,
26:08
Speaker 3: you know, no drama, but also you still have a
26:10
Speaker 3: shutout in order. You know, that's got to suck a
26:12
Speaker 3: little bit for a picture. You go almost the distance,
26:16
Speaker 3: you don't give up a hit, and then the one
26:17
Speaker 3: hit you give up leads to a run. But you know,
26:20
Speaker 3: like you said, if it was if it was something
26:23
Speaker 3: where you just have to be a really good picture,
26:26
Speaker 3: we would see it all the time because we have
26:28
Speaker 3: amazing pictures. We have pictures with their stuff is so good.
26:32
Speaker 3: You know, Paul Skeins would do it every day if
26:33
Speaker 3: it was something that happened all the time, if it
26:35
Speaker 3: was easy to do.
26:36
Speaker 4: There is an.
26:37
Speaker 3: Element of luck involved with it. And you know Cleveland
26:42
Speaker 3: needs one. They need one. You know they had guys
26:44
Speaker 3: like Corey Klueber who wasn't able to do it, so
26:47
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully they get one here soon.
26:50
Speaker 1: Do you think that Stephen Bote gets any pushback from
26:53
Speaker 1: the front office in the scenario like that, or even afterward,
26:56
Speaker 1: because you know he mentioned how you didn't even talk
26:58
Speaker 1: to Evan Williams, didn't Carl Willis anyone else. He's like, hey,
27:01
Speaker 1: look Crisp, I was feeling it. I'm latting him eat.
27:05
Speaker 1: But I know this for a fact, cam most front
27:07
Speaker 1: offices would give crap to their manager and be like,
27:10
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Not one hundred and twenty six pitches. There
27:13
Speaker 1: are a ton of young pitchers that they would go
27:15
Speaker 1: nuts about. I guess Gavin Williams is more mid career
27:19
Speaker 1: ish at this point, but still, do you think that
27:21
Speaker 1: there's a conversation there because I know many other teams
27:24
Speaker 1: would be a problem.
27:27
Speaker 5: I'm sure it was a conversation, you know, but also
27:29
Speaker 5: too Scotty and I don't know where the bullpen was
27:31
Speaker 5: on usage.
27:32
Speaker 4: I don't know how banged up they might have been.
27:36
Speaker 5: But I do feel like, like you said, Gavin Willims
27:38
Speaker 5: is so much somewhat early in his career, and he's
27:41
Speaker 5: also had he also has a frame, right, I also
27:43
Speaker 5: look at certain guys too. He has a frame that
27:44
Speaker 5: looks like he can with stay in that type of
27:46
Speaker 5: workload also, so I look at things like that.
27:50
Speaker 4: But I'm sure it was definitely a conversation.
27:53
Speaker 5: But I also think too when you look ahead their schedule,
27:55
Speaker 5: I think they have some time off coming up, so
27:58
Speaker 5: I think this might be a chance where he might
28:00
Speaker 5: get an extra days of rest as well.
28:01
Speaker 4: So he might have been like, hey, he's dealings, he's doing.
28:05
Speaker 5: His thing, go ahead and let him just unload the
28:07
Speaker 5: tank and he's gonna have extra day arrest, so he'll
28:09
Speaker 5: be fine. So I'm sure I'm sure their conversations had
28:13
Speaker 5: between manager and front office.
28:14
Speaker 4: For sure, when the guy goes out and he gives
28:16
Speaker 4: you this type.
28:17
Speaker 2: Of workload, that's true.
28:18
Speaker 1: Extra off day, right, extra day rest for him then
28:21
Speaker 1: six to fifty.
28:23
Speaker 4: I mean, he's a monster dude like that type of body. Listen.
28:27
Speaker 5: I'm sure his lifetime, I'm sure that dude was throwing
28:30
Speaker 5: all types one hundred pitched games coming through the miners
28:33
Speaker 5: and or excuse me, the youth.
28:35
Speaker 4: Ranks in high school, in college.
28:36
Speaker 5: I'm sure he was definitely a guy who, you know,
28:40
Speaker 5: he's thrown a lot.
28:40
Speaker 4: Of pitches before, he has that type of makeup.
28:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, for my sanity and me being able to get
28:48
Speaker 3: good sleep tonight, I really hope there wasn't a conversation
28:51
Speaker 3: when you hire a guy to be your manager like
28:53
Speaker 3: Steven Vogue, who's played the game, played the game at
28:57
Speaker 3: a high level, was an All Star, was a catcher, understands,
29:02
Speaker 3: you know, he made a living catching understanding pictures, seeing
29:07
Speaker 3: their stuff. I would really hope there's not a conversation
29:10
Speaker 3: except for them coming down and maybe talking about how
29:14
Speaker 3: close he was to throwing a no hitter. But I
29:16
Speaker 3: really hope for my sanity that there wasn't any sort
29:19
Speaker 3: of you know, pushback on his decision.
29:23
Speaker 5: And KP, Hey, Scotty, KP probably knows this. KP knows this.
29:27
Speaker 5: One thing about Stephen Vague is he cares about his guys, right,
29:30
Speaker 5: first off, he cared about his teammates when he when
29:32
Speaker 5: he was a player, so I know as a manager,
29:34
Speaker 5: one thing he's not gonna do is run a guy
29:37
Speaker 5: out there to try to get a win or just
29:38
Speaker 5: for stats, like he's he like like you know, like
29:42
Speaker 5: Superman said, he's reading the room, he's using his eyeballs.
29:45
Speaker 5: And the last thing he's gonna do is put somebody
29:47
Speaker 5: in danger.
29:47
Speaker 4: So you that's where were through, Stephen Vote.
29:49
Speaker 5: He's not gonna He's not gonna put somebody out there
29:52
Speaker 5: and risk of getting injury just to get a win,
29:54
Speaker 5: or say, hey, I left him out there for one
29:56
Speaker 5: hundred and forty pitches and he threw a no hitter.
29:57
Speaker 3: Like he's readers season where they're at in their season
30:01
Speaker 3: right now. They are playing to win. They need to
30:03
Speaker 3: win every game. This was Yes, there was a moment
30:06
Speaker 3: where he could have made history. He could have thrown
30:09
Speaker 3: a no hitter right there is as important that is
30:12
Speaker 3: to Steven Vote and to the organization. They were playing
30:16
Speaker 3: to win. If they felt like he wasn't the best
30:18
Speaker 3: person to get the last three outs, they would have
30:20
Speaker 3: put someone else in that game. You know this was
30:22
Speaker 3: a team where, you know, everything they went through over
30:26
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks, losing a couple of players,
30:28
Speaker 3: you know, the gambling situation. You know, this is a
30:31
Speaker 3: team that we started to count out, that we felt like,
30:34
Speaker 3: you know, are they gonna sell, They're gonna sell? Are
30:36
Speaker 3: they gonna sell? And they decided not to really sell.
30:39
Speaker 3: And this is a team you know, much like you know,
30:43
Speaker 3: much like I mentioned, like the Brewers of recently, the
30:46
Speaker 3: Astros of recently, this is just a team that figures
30:49
Speaker 3: it out. You know, you count them out and they
30:51
Speaker 3: figure out ways to just stay relevant. And I think
30:54
Speaker 3: they're only two or a game back in the last
30:56
Speaker 3: wildcard spot.
30:59
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, it went Jackson somewhere laughing right now, going,
31:02
Speaker 5: I can't believe it they're even having this conversation.
31:06
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Well let me find that for
31:10
Speaker 2: you real quick. We've got a.
31:13
Speaker 1: Game and a half separation between the Yankees and the Guardians.
31:18
Speaker 6: The Rangers are.
31:18
Speaker 3: Also again six seven games in a row, like they're
31:21
Speaker 3: right back in this. So, I mean, it's easy to
31:24
Speaker 3: leave a guy out there and throw that many pitches,
31:26
Speaker 3: you know, when you're not trying to go to the postseason.
31:29
Speaker 3: You know when you are playing for you know, statistics,
31:32
Speaker 3: you're playing for individual accomplishments. But Stephen Boats got hired
31:36
Speaker 3: to win. He wants to win, so he left the
31:39
Speaker 3: best guy out there who he felt like can get
31:40
Speaker 3: the last three outs.
31:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've had the best record in the American League
31:45
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season so far.
31:47
Speaker 2: Believe it's fourteen and six.
31:49
Speaker 1: Pretty damn good for a team that did not buy
31:52
Speaker 1: at the trade deadline.
31:53
Speaker 2: They sold.
31:53
Speaker 1: I mean, Shane Bieber hasn't pitched for them, but they
31:55
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33:02
Speaker 2: KP.
33:02
Speaker 1: What's wrong with the Mats? They're two and eight in
33:05
Speaker 1: their last ten and it's late in the season. Can't
33:08
Speaker 1: go through this for too long. For a little bit,
33:10
Speaker 1: it's okay, but for too long, gotta be careful and
33:13
Speaker 1: they just you know, they're not playing well against the
33:14
Speaker 1: Guardians and the Giants in the past week.
33:18
Speaker 3: I don't think anything's wrong. I think it's baseball. I mean,
33:22
Speaker 3: bad teams be good teams, good teams be bad teams.
33:24
Speaker 3: Everyone kind of goes through it. It's obviously very magnified
33:28
Speaker 3: at the beginning of the year, and now we're getting
33:30
Speaker 3: towards the end of the year and it starts to
33:32
Speaker 3: become an issue, but I believe in that team.
33:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with KP.
33:39
Speaker 5: I think the offenses is a little cold right now,
33:41
Speaker 5: but I think I think they're gonna be fine.
33:44
Speaker 4: I think they played a really quality rand of baseball.
33:47
Speaker 5: I think they have some very motivate, motivated guys in
33:49
Speaker 5: the lineup. Pete Alonzo has done everything, in my eyes,
33:54
Speaker 5: under the sun to.
33:56
Speaker 4: Just prove how special he is, you know, to that organization.
34:00
Speaker 5: Of course, I still have my questions about the starting rotation,
34:03
Speaker 5: but I do believe in this lineup. That's one thing
34:05
Speaker 5: I believe in is this lineup in this bullpen, and
34:07
Speaker 5: I think the line of bull figured out. They're just
34:09
Speaker 5: going through a little tough spell right now, but they're
34:12
Speaker 5: in a good spot and I think guys are going
34:14
Speaker 5: to figure out when they need to figure it out.
34:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good looking bullpen.
34:18
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
34:20
Speaker 5: And again, you know this is the thing. They have
34:23
Speaker 5: guys that care right. And KP knows he was in
34:25
Speaker 5: that clubhouse as well. You have leaders like Frankie Lindor,
34:29
Speaker 5: You you have guys like Pete, you have guys like
34:31
Speaker 5: Cedric Mullins. They have guys that care right, and they're
34:34
Speaker 5: gonna be talking about, Hey, what do you see?
34:36
Speaker 4: What do you feel? They're going to bounce ideas off
34:38
Speaker 4: each other and they're going to figure it out.
34:42
Speaker 2: Hot corner time.
34:44
Speaker 1: Are you letting your future stars or long term franchise
34:48
Speaker 1: players truly cook. It's very relevant right now when Lawrence
34:52
Speaker 1: Butler is now sitting for a third consecutive game against
34:55
Speaker 1: the left handed pitcher, and obviously it could be something
34:58
Speaker 1: going on behind the scenes where you know, sometimes a
35:00
Speaker 1: guy is feeling something, little hurt, whatever, and you just
35:02
Speaker 1: don't get it. But if that's not the case, Cam,
35:06
Speaker 1: I checked the standings, The A's aren't in it this year.
35:09
Speaker 1: I checked the contract, the A's are living with law
35:14
Speaker 1: long term and they love him. And I checked the
35:16
Speaker 1: stats from last year. He was destroying left handed pitching.
35:19
Speaker 1: It's been more of a down season for him this year.
35:21
Speaker 1: But is this the right move to start platuning him
35:24
Speaker 1: to this extent when you want him to thrive against
35:27
Speaker 1: lefties in right he's going forward?
35:29
Speaker 5: Well, I think you can think about it a few
35:31
Speaker 5: different ways. Right when you have a young guy like
35:33
Speaker 5: law who is locked in and you just said it,
35:36
Speaker 5: they're not going anywhere, and he hasn't hit lefties like
35:39
Speaker 5: he did last season. And as a young player, you
35:42
Speaker 5: know you're going to go through these ups and downs,
35:44
Speaker 5: you know, early in your career.
35:45
Speaker 4: And I think this could just be.
35:48
Speaker 5: A moment where Kays is just saying, hey, man, we're
35:50
Speaker 5: going to give you a couple of reset days right
35:52
Speaker 5: also too, you know Koch's job and Kass has done
35:54
Speaker 5: a really good job of setting his young guys up
35:56
Speaker 5: for success. And we we knew, we know law is
35:59
Speaker 5: a part of the long term plan. And I think
36:01
Speaker 5: this could just be as simple as Cots who I
36:03
Speaker 5: you know, he was my veteran when I was in
36:05
Speaker 5: San Diego. He was a guy who told me to hey,
36:07
Speaker 5: when they offered you, when they offer you a deal
36:11
Speaker 5: that you never expected or more money than you've ever seen.
36:14
Speaker 5: Mike did get out of to sign and I'm glad
36:16
Speaker 5: I did. It was the best thing I did in
36:17
Speaker 5: my career. So Cott's he One thing I know about
36:20
Speaker 5: Mark Cott say he cares about his guys. And I
36:22
Speaker 5: think this just may be, if anything, just some time
36:25
Speaker 5: for law Dog to clear his head and just kind
36:28
Speaker 5: of figure some things out and in the cages before
36:31
Speaker 5: he gets them back in there. But I'm if I
36:33
Speaker 5: had to guess he'll be right back in there facing
36:34
Speaker 5: lefties before you know it.
36:39
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean, we'll have to see. We'll have to
36:41
Speaker 3: see if it's a like you said, is it a reset,
36:44
Speaker 3: is it a couple of days, is it a thing,
36:46
Speaker 3: or is it something that they're permanently gonna do. But
36:49
Speaker 3: you know, I'm a big believer, and I understand how
36:53
Speaker 3: difficult baseball is, you know. I know, we talked about
36:56
Speaker 3: a guy like Mooie Betts, first ballot Hall of Famer,
36:59
Speaker 3: one of the best players of our generation, maybe one
37:02
Speaker 3: of the best players I've ever been around. Personally, He's
37:05
Speaker 3: struggling this year. Baseball doesn't care who you are, how
37:09
Speaker 3: much money you're making. It is hard to be great
37:13
Speaker 3: year in and year out when you were in a
37:15
Speaker 3: position where a team is throwing money at you. That
37:18
Speaker 3: is more money than you've ever dreamed of making and
37:21
Speaker 3: is gonna make your life. You're gonna be set for life,
37:25
Speaker 3: and your kids are gonna be set for life. It's
37:27
Speaker 3: hard to say no to that. It really really is,
37:31
Speaker 3: you know. And I wanted to touch a little bit
37:33
Speaker 3: on you know, some of the things I saw yesterday,
37:35
Speaker 3: and we're talking about the what ifs. I'm not a
37:37
Speaker 3: big believer in what ifs in this game because it's
37:41
Speaker 3: easy in a vacuum to say, oh, yeah, if he
37:43
Speaker 3: doesn't take the deal, he's gonna make X amount and
37:46
Speaker 3: our year one and year two and year three and
37:48
Speaker 3: he can sign for five or six hundred million dollars. Yeah,
37:52
Speaker 3: that's great if everything works out. But what if it doesn't.
37:55
Speaker 3: We never really talk about the players where it doesn't
37:57
Speaker 3: work out, where they signed deals. But now they're triple
38:00
Speaker 3: A and they're making five six million dollars a year.
38:02
Speaker 3: You think they're enjoying themselves a little bit more playing
38:05
Speaker 3: in you know, Syracuse or Buffalo or wherever they're at.
38:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, yesterday we talked about it. The Roman Anthony extension.
38:14
Speaker 1: I mean, for as good as he is, I'm with UKP.
38:16
Speaker 1: I mean everyone's got a number. At some point. You
38:19
Speaker 1: got to look at the number like this is crazy
38:21
Speaker 1: good money. He's not locked up until he's thirty six
38:24
Speaker 1: years old. He will hit the free agent market again.
38:27
Speaker 1: You're just eating up the entire twenties for him, And hey,
38:32
Speaker 1: how do you think I will present the counterpoint? Even
38:35
Speaker 1: though I don't think Roman Anthony's going to be like this.
38:38
Speaker 1: Ronald Acuna Junior has been hurt a good amount, but
38:40
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, I mean, he's a superstar.
38:42
Speaker 1: Do you think he feels okay with the fact that
38:44
Speaker 1: he signed an eight year, one hundred million dollar contract
38:47
Speaker 1: way back and he could have been a free agent
38:49
Speaker 1: a while ago. Now, I know his knee has gotten
38:52
Speaker 1: shredded up, but if he hit free agency, you know,
38:54
Speaker 1: the season in between when he got hurt, he could
38:57
Speaker 1: have gotten hundreds of millions of dollars. So do you
38:59
Speaker 1: think he okay with what he did? Because he at
39:02
Speaker 1: least got the security. And again we're talking about this
39:04
Speaker 1: isn't like, oh, he signed for a million bucks one
39:06
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars he's.
39:07
Speaker 3: Gonna I mean, I was his teammate two years ago
39:11
Speaker 3: and he's driving some pretty nice cars to the field.
39:13
Speaker 3: He looked, and he comes to the field with a
39:14
Speaker 3: really big smile on his face and he seems to
39:17
Speaker 3: be very happy. Yeah, it's easy to talk about the
39:19
Speaker 3: what if, But what if he didn't sign that hundred
39:22
Speaker 3: million dollar deal and he was just playing it out
39:25
Speaker 3: and trying to get that big contract and then he
39:28
Speaker 3: hurts the knee and then he hurts the knee again,
39:30
Speaker 3: are we talking about? You know, is he the same
39:33
Speaker 3: type of players? He can get the same amount of money,
39:35
Speaker 3: you know, And it's it's also easy we never talk
39:37
Speaker 3: about when a player does sign up, you know, long
39:40
Speaker 3: term for you know, one hundred million dollars, Well maybe
39:42
Speaker 3: they should have got four hundred. You know, it's a
39:46
Speaker 3: little bit easier going to bed at night going over
39:48
Speaker 3: four oh for eight, like the paycheck's still coming in.
39:51
Speaker 3: As a player that went year to year, there's a
39:53
Speaker 3: lot of stress on that. People don't understand that. And granted,
39:57
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in a position, you know, I made good
39:59
Speaker 3: money in my career, but there's times I wish that
40:03
Speaker 3: I would have been offered you know, maybe if I
40:05
Speaker 3: could have been offered the same amount of money that
40:06
Speaker 3: I made in my career in year one, and I
40:10
Speaker 3: could have just been able to kind of take a
40:12
Speaker 3: deep breath and just understand, I'm going to be in
40:14
Speaker 3: one place for a long time. The paychecks coming in.
40:17
Speaker 3: I don't have to worry about the what if down
40:19
Speaker 3: the road? Could would I have been a better player?
40:21
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, that's that's the tough question
40:23
Speaker 3: with something like this.
40:25
Speaker 5: But this, but this is, this is how you have
40:27
Speaker 5: to look at it for me, because before we talked
40:29
Speaker 5: about it prior to and Scott and I love, I
40:32
Speaker 5: love that you brought up Ronald le'cullier, right, and when
40:34
Speaker 5: you brought bring up rondal cull you.
40:36
Speaker 4: This is what I did. I made a list. Check
40:37
Speaker 4: this out.
40:38
Speaker 5: Julio Rodriguez fourteen year, two hundred and ten million up
40:41
Speaker 5: to four hundred and seventy million. He has not played
40:43
Speaker 5: like a four hundred million dollar player. Michael Harris signs
40:46
Speaker 5: an eight year, seventy two million dollar deal. The defense
40:48
Speaker 5: is still elite. He has not replicated that offense. Attalie
40:51
Speaker 5: Rushman eight years.
40:52
Speaker 4: One thirteen. He has not played like that type of catcher.
40:56
Speaker 2: Wait now, Adley hasn't signed. Poled up?
40:59
Speaker 4: Oh excuse Adlie had Adlie didn't sign.
41:01
Speaker 2: You were cooking, but then I had to stop you on.
41:04
Speaker 5: But Adlie didn't sign, So okay, hey skip Adleie. Luis
41:08
Speaker 5: Roberts Junior, right, hasn't hasn't played up to that contract.
41:13
Speaker 4: He's good for life.
41:14
Speaker 5: Eloy Jmenez Key, Brian Hayes, Hey, Scott Kingery, you know
41:18
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Andres Jimenez. These are guys who have
41:21
Speaker 5: not performed like they you know, did when they got
41:24
Speaker 5: offered those deals, you know, So for me, this is
41:28
Speaker 5: why I think it's important. Like you know, like KP said,
41:31
Speaker 5: you know, they're gonna be the counions, but you're also
41:33
Speaker 5: gonna have a listful of these guys also who you know,
41:36
Speaker 5: it was good that they signed these deals when you
41:39
Speaker 5: look at the way that they're playing, because they might
41:41
Speaker 5: not get offers ever again.
41:43
Speaker 3: I mean, even just this year, we talk about Christian Campbell.
41:47
Speaker 3: You know, he got off to the best start I'd
41:49
Speaker 3: ever seen, and I watched him on Opening Day and
41:51
Speaker 3: I was like, I've never really even you know. I
41:53
Speaker 3: started to hear about him a little bit on TV
41:55
Speaker 3: and spring training, and I was fortunate that I got
41:57
Speaker 3: to watch him play an opening day and I was like, Wow,
42:00
Speaker 3: this guy is amazing. And then honestly, in the first
42:03
Speaker 3: week he signs this deal. You know where he's at
42:05
Speaker 3: right now.
42:08
Speaker 4: In the bush?
42:09
Speaker 2: Yes, he's yeah.
42:11
Speaker 3: We mentioned it, and there was and there was, and
42:13
Speaker 3: there was these same talks about why did he take
42:16
Speaker 3: the sixty million? Was sixty million? I don't want to misspeak.
42:18
Speaker 3: I know it, we're somewhere between yeah, sixty million. It's like, oh,
42:24
Speaker 3: we're judging a guy off of you know, one week
42:26
Speaker 3: in the in the Big League, for judging off one week. Oh,
42:28
Speaker 3: this guy he's gonna make three hundred million is in
42:31
Speaker 3: his career? Why is he going to take the sixty million?
42:33
Speaker 3: The guy's playing in Triple A right now. Base is
42:37
Speaker 3: hard ball.
42:38
Speaker 5: Scott Kanary, Literally, how do you think Scott Kyry feels that,
42:42
Speaker 5: dude is that's probably the best thing that guy did.
42:45
Speaker 2: I know how he feels rich. He feels rich.
42:47
Speaker 4: And the thing is exactly that there is risk on
42:50
Speaker 4: both side.
42:52
Speaker 2: Teams teams say this.
42:53
Speaker 1: Too, but most of the time they get the surplus
42:56
Speaker 1: value on the back end, so I think it levels out.
42:58
Speaker 2: I think it's a good idea.
43:00
Speaker 1: And like you said, the comfort for the player can
43:02
Speaker 1: often lead to better performance and guys just thinking about
43:05
Speaker 1: the team and not themselves and not their next situation
43:08
Speaker 1: to make sure that they were still there.
43:11
Speaker 4: Right. You watch Joo Rodriguez, That's exactly how he plays.
43:14
Speaker 5: Huo Rodriguez played and again he's having these moments, but
43:17
Speaker 5: he literally plays like I'm just playing for the team,
43:20
Speaker 5: even when I'm struggling.
43:21
Speaker 4: He's smile like he's a he's a team guy.
43:23
Speaker 5: But you can't tell me that security does not help, right,
43:27
Speaker 5: He's like ay, at end of the day, like you
43:29
Speaker 5: know what, I'm not playing like this money that I'm offering.
43:31
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be the best teammate in the freaking world.
43:33
Speaker 5: And I'm sure that's who he is anyway. But it
43:35
Speaker 5: helps you out a whole bunch. KP is exactly right
43:38
Speaker 5: about that.
43:40
Speaker 1: Actually, all of this plays into the conversation we were just having.
43:42
Speaker 1: So The Philly Show was talking about Max Kepler and
43:46
Speaker 1: they said, if he doesn't start producing, he could be
43:48
Speaker 1: the odd man out once Harrison Vader is taken over
43:50
Speaker 1: in center field. Bader is not a platoon guy, they said.
43:53
Speaker 1: At some point, you're gonna have to cut bait. Kepler
43:54
Speaker 1: signed a one year contract for I think ten million
43:56
Speaker 1: bucks in the offseason. Cam, did you mention Eloy Jimenez
43:59
Speaker 1: or he'said Louis Robert when you were talking about the extension, guys,
44:02
Speaker 1: where did you say both?
44:04
Speaker 4: I said both?
44:05
Speaker 2: You said both?
44:05
Speaker 4: Both? Yeah?
44:06
Speaker 2: I mean Olloy, dude.
44:07
Speaker 1: I'm looking back at my notes from when Alloy signed
44:11
Speaker 1: six years forty three million spring training twenty nineteen crushed
44:14
Speaker 1: the record for a minor leaguer with no MLB time.
44:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, And people were like, this guy's going to be
44:21
Speaker 2: the next fifty Homer Bay in the sport. How could
44:24
Speaker 2: he just take forty three million dollars.
44:26
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't even think he's playing ball right now,
44:30
Speaker 1: and if he is, it's not in the majors.
44:33
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I'm and seriously, and again I messed
44:35
Speaker 5: up on add Addlie had Adlie hadn't signed. But you
44:38
Speaker 5: look at those deals and I remember that too. Skuy
44:40
Speaker 5: were like, what is this guy doing? I mean, this
44:42
Speaker 5: guy's the next coming of who?
44:43
Speaker 4: I mean? It was like, what is going on?
44:45
Speaker 5: But the game is so hard and it's so unpredictable
44:48
Speaker 5: and KP knows some days you wake up on the
44:50
Speaker 5: baseball field. And I had years where I literally felt
44:52
Speaker 5: like I forgot how to play the game, like like
44:54
Speaker 5: literally you play since you were three years old. And
44:56
Speaker 5: I had seasons where I literally have cried in the car. Man,
45:00
Speaker 5: I'm like, what is going on right now?
45:02
Speaker 2: Like?
45:02
Speaker 4: Who am I? Right?
45:03
Speaker 5: I told you you feel like the Monks star sat
45:06
Speaker 5: Z after power from you. So again to have that
45:09
Speaker 5: type of you know, incentive to fall back on.
45:12
Speaker 4: Man, it feels good. Listened.
45:13
Speaker 5: When I signed my Del Sainte Ago and I had
45:15
Speaker 5: those days, it helped me sleep a lot better thinking
45:18
Speaker 5: about some of the security man like whew, man, I'm
45:20
Speaker 5: you know what, Yeah, did I think I was one
45:22
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars?
45:22
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah I did. Did I play that way? No?
45:25
Speaker 5: I didn't end up playing that way, clearly, but that
45:28
Speaker 5: little bit of security. Man, when I tell you, I'm
45:30
Speaker 5: so grateful for Mark Kotte telling me, hey, man, listen,
45:33
Speaker 5: I signed the one deal earlier in my year. It
45:35
Speaker 5: was like fifty two million. I signed it. It was
45:38
Speaker 5: the It changed my family's life ever and it was
45:40
Speaker 5: never off another contract, whatever the story was, and it
45:43
Speaker 5: was the best thing I ever did you.
45:44
Speaker 4: Know it was the best thing? M Yeah.
45:48
Speaker 1: I mean Max Kuppler actually signed one of those in
45:51
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen as well. Five years, thirty five million.
45:55
Speaker 4: We thought he was gonna be something. Yeah, and Max
45:58
Speaker 4: has been good. You know, he's had it, yeah, glimpses
46:01
Speaker 4: and he's a spest. But now on you keep.
46:06
Speaker 3: Bringing the name Attlee Russian up. You know the way
46:08
Speaker 3: he's playing right now, You don't think I'm guessing you go.
46:11
Speaker 3: I'm guessing he had a deal probably similar to what you.
46:15
Speaker 4: You know said.
46:15
Speaker 3: Maybe that's where you got the number from. If you
46:17
Speaker 3: think any you're thinking, he wish you would have signed
46:19
Speaker 3: something like that.
46:20
Speaker 1: Now, man, exactly, all right, KP, We're gonna do two things.
46:26
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk Blue Jays now for two minutes. Then
46:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about him in a different realm coming
46:30
Speaker 1: up in the next segment.
46:31
Speaker 2: So first off, they had a little time, you know,
46:33
Speaker 2: they were doing me. They were a little man over
46:35
Speaker 2: the past week.
46:36
Speaker 1: And then they ran into the Rockies, which is just
46:38
Speaker 1: the best medicine when you run into what could end
46:41
Speaker 1: up being the worst team.
46:43
Speaker 2: Of all time by a record.
46:44
Speaker 1: So they won fifteen to one, then ten to four,
46:48
Speaker 1: and then they finished up the series trailing one nothing
46:50
Speaker 1: and scoring twenty in a row to win twenty to one.
46:53
Speaker 1: So it was a nice series winning for the Blue Jays.
46:55
Speaker 1: Most hits in a three game series and one hundred
46:57
Speaker 1: and twenty five years the Blue Jays had sixty three
47:00
Speaker 1: hits in their sweep against Colorado. Yes, that's the most
47:03
Speaker 1: in a three game set since nineteen hundred. Everybody's stats
47:08
Speaker 1: went off. Is that one of those kp when you're
47:10
Speaker 1: in the dugout and you're like, oh, we're getting paid
47:13
Speaker 1: in this series. Stats are gonna fly, staffs are gonna pump. Oh,
47:16
Speaker 1: you're slug percentage down a little bit.
47:18
Speaker 2: Welcome.
47:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, obviously going into Colorado is you always
47:23
Speaker 3: have that thought in your head. It's like, Okay, it's
47:25
Speaker 3: time for me to boost the stats a little bit.
47:27
Speaker 3: It also helps that Colorado is not very good right now.
47:30
Speaker 3: But I have to say, I mean, they're major league players.
47:33
Speaker 3: You know, even the worst major league team with the
47:36
Speaker 3: worst major league players on it, there's still major league
47:38
Speaker 3: baseball players. They're better than everyone else in the world.
47:41
Speaker 3: They're there for a reason. But what Toronto was able
47:44
Speaker 3: to do and just go in there and handle business,
47:46
Speaker 3: they made it look easy, and it's not that easy
47:49
Speaker 3: because the guy on the mound, he's fighting for his life,
47:53
Speaker 3: he's trying to make money, he's trying to stay in
47:55
Speaker 3: the big leagues. He's not just grooving fastballs over the
47:57
Speaker 3: plane and saying, hey, you guys, scores mini runs you want? So,
48:01
Speaker 3: you know, obviously a great time for the Blue Jays
48:03
Speaker 3: to go in there. Every single person in that lineup
48:08
Speaker 3: has extreme confidence right now, and I think they're They're
48:11
Speaker 3: about to go into a series and I'm actually gonna
48:14
Speaker 3: go do the pre and post game for the Toronto
48:16
Speaker 3: Blue Jays in Canada. I'm flying out tomorrow and they
48:19
Speaker 3: have a series with the Dodgers and this is gonna
48:21
Speaker 3: be a heavyweight matchup. You know, the Dodgers are the Dodgers.
48:24
Speaker 3: The Dodgers are always going to get everyone's best and
48:28
Speaker 3: Toronto is playing their best right now, not only because
48:31
Speaker 3: they're really good, but they just got off of a
48:33
Speaker 3: series where everyone is feeling good. The worst thing that
48:36
Speaker 3: happened to the Blue Jays is them having an off
48:38
Speaker 3: day to day.
48:50
Speaker 1: Let's slap and say congrats early to Adam Jones, who's
48:54
Speaker 1: going to be honored this Saturday.
48:56
Speaker 2: Our buddy. We got to get him back on to
48:58
Speaker 2: talk about this post.
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Speaker 1: But he's going to be honored over in Baltimore, Camden
49:03
Speaker 1: Yards into the Orioles Hall of Fame. He will be
49:06
Speaker 1: inducted this Saturday. They freaking love him out there, and
49:09
Speaker 1: Cam that's our boy too, and he's uh, I don't
49:14
Speaker 1: you know. He's kind of working within the team a
49:15
Speaker 1: little bit now too. So he's been vocal about trying
49:18
Speaker 1: to get the team back on track for next year.
49:20
Speaker 1: This is, you know, therapeutic in terms of what the
49:24
Speaker 1: Orioles fans need right now. It's just the Adam Jones
49:27
Speaker 1: smile after they just traded away half their team and
49:30
Speaker 1: they're not going to be a playoff team.
49:32
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is great from Adam Man. Adam was a
49:34
Speaker 5: guy that I looked up to throughout my career. Man,
49:37
Speaker 5: He's always played the game the right way. I was
49:39
Speaker 5: always willing to pull a young guy to the side
49:42
Speaker 5: and give him a piece of advice.
49:43
Speaker 4: I mean to this day, if I need something.
49:44
Speaker 5: I can call him. So congrats to Adam Man. Will
49:48
Speaker 5: deserved and and like you said, a bright spot for
49:50
Speaker 5: the Orioles this year and a much needed bright spot.
49:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, KPM true. I was up early career right with
49:57
Speaker 1: the Orioles with that.
49:58
Speaker 3: I was one of those young guys that was one
49:59
Speaker 3: of those young guys I was competing against him, We
50:02
Speaker 3: were in competition with each other, but he was never afraid.
50:06
Speaker 3: I went up to him maybe my second year, third year,
50:09
Speaker 3: and I basically just told him like, how are you
50:11
Speaker 3: still doing it at such a high level?
50:13
Speaker 4: You know?
50:13
Speaker 3: Center field is such a physically demanding position. How are
50:16
Speaker 3: you still doing it at such a high level? You know,
50:18
Speaker 3: six seven, eight years in the league. You know, he
50:21
Speaker 3: was much older than me at that time, and he
50:23
Speaker 3: just gave me some really good advice, and I always
50:25
Speaker 3: appreciated it. I think my favorite thing about Adam Jones
50:28
Speaker 3: was what we touched on his smile. He just played
50:30
Speaker 3: the game with so much joy and so much fun,
50:33
Speaker 3: and I always was envious of the way he could
50:34
Speaker 3: just play so relaxed and have so much fun playing it.
50:37
Speaker 3: I was always a very serious guy because baseball was
50:40
Speaker 3: so hard for me that I didn't have time to smile.
50:42
Speaker 3: I had to focus twenty four to seven when I
50:44
Speaker 3: was in a baseball field, and loved that he just
50:46
Speaker 3: always smiled. He could chew a bubble gum and rob
50:49
Speaker 3: a home run. Congrats. Adam Jones just one of the
50:52
Speaker 3: players of all time.
50:54
Speaker 2: That's cool. You know.
50:56
Speaker 1: Now, he travels a lot, and sometimes he'll pop up
50:59
Speaker 1: in a city and he'll just be like on Twitter,
51:01
Speaker 1: anyone upon a play golf today, and then he'll literally
51:05
Speaker 1: DM some of the people and be like cool, see
51:07
Speaker 1: at the course at whatever time. So that's Adam for
51:10
Speaker 1: you always having a good time, enjoying life. You'll see
51:12
Speaker 1: him a lot of MLB events. But again, props Adam Jones.
51:16
Speaker 1: You know part of us, especially when we first started
51:19
Speaker 1: popping up on shows all the time. So we're back
51:22
Speaker 1: tomorrow and Cavin Williams will join us on tomorrow show.
51:27
Speaker 1: Oh also, Mike trout Happy birthday today.
51:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, happy, happy birthday.
51:34
Speaker 2: How old is Trouty? Do we know?
51:38
Speaker 3: Probably not as old as we think. It's crazy. It's
51:40
Speaker 3: like he's been in the league so long. I mean,
51:43
Speaker 3: I want to say like happy thirty first, thirty third,
51:46
Speaker 3: thirty thirty.
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Speaker 4: Four, thirty fourth.
51:49
Speaker 3: No, we're so mad because he's he's been playing for
51:52
Speaker 3: so long. And here I am. I'm thirty six, I'm
51:54
Speaker 3: sitting at home and he's playing for fifteen years and
51:59
Speaker 3: he's my goats.
52:00
Speaker 4: He's one of my goats. He's one of the goats.
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