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Border Madness: In-Depth from the Border-Traffickers, Terrorists & Tragedy · The 47 Morning Update with Ben Ferguson

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Center.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to be with you in the studio as always.
• 0:03
  Speaker 2: You just got back from the border, and I want
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: to get into this. It's not really shocking, but it's
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: very concerning now from a national security standpoint. How bad
• 0:13
  Speaker 2: has it gotten compared to what it was even just
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  Speaker 2: last time you were there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it keeps getting worse and worse. So I was
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  Speaker 1: down on the border Thursday and Friday of last week,
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: and so the Senate was in session. I was in
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  Speaker 1: DC until Thursday afternoon and then jumped on a plane
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  Speaker 1: and I flew down to McCallen Thursday night, and I
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  Speaker 1: brought along with me four other Senators, John Cornyn, and
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  Speaker 1: he and I often host our colleagues down at the
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  Speaker 1: southern border, and we also had with us John Barrosso
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  Speaker 1: and Mike Lee and Pete Ricketts, and so the five
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  Speaker 1: of us came down. We landed. The first thing we did,
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  Speaker 1: we went straight from the airport to the midnight muster
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  Speaker 1: of the Border patrol agents and there were about fifty
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: Border patrol agents gathered the musters where they sit and
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  Speaker 1: talk right before they go out on duty. And we
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  Speaker 1: had a good discussion with the border patrol agents. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I just stood up and told them thank you. More
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  Speaker 1: than anything, I wanted them to hear from me, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. To tell them and I said
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  Speaker 1: exactly this. I said, Listen, I travel all over Texas,
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  Speaker 1: I travel all over the country. You need to know
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  Speaker 1: that the American people appreciate what you're doing. Their morale's
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  Speaker 1: low right now, it's incredibly low. I mean that they
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  Speaker 1: are working for bosses who undermined them, who undercut them,
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  Speaker 1: who make their jobs impossible to do. All right, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you something. So we did, each of us spoke
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  Speaker 1: to them a few minutes, and we open it up
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  Speaker 1: for Q and A, and we asked the border patrol agents, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what should we know that we don't know. One of
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  Speaker 1: the things we learned which I had never heard, which
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  Speaker 1: is in the past year, the Biden administration has put
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  Speaker 1: out new guidelines for pursuit of illegal aliens. This is
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  Speaker 1: illegal aliens that are running, that are trying to get away.
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  Speaker 1: And the guidelines you'd have to effectively call them guidelines
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  Speaker 1: for non pursuit because they are told you cannot pursue
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  Speaker 1: illegal aliens if there is anything that could potentially endanger
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  Speaker 1: someone's safety. So what does that mean? It means if
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  Speaker 1: in a car they have four people in the back
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  Speaker 1: seat and you know there are only three seat belts,
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  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to pursue them. Just let them go,
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  Speaker 1: Just let them go. It means if they run a
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  Speaker 1: stop sign, you must immediately stop pursuing them and let
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  Speaker 1: them go. And what they said happens is a practical matter.
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  Speaker 1: They said, look, the cartels know this memo has gone out,
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  Speaker 1: the memo of non pursuit, and so when they see
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  Speaker 1: someone and try to apprehend them, if they have illegal
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  Speaker 1: aliens hiding like huddled down, they'll all sit up so
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  Speaker 1: you can see. Wait, there are more of us though,
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  Speaker 1: there are seat belts, and the border patrol agents have
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  Speaker 1: to stop and just let them drive away. Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And it came down, I'm assuming, from the top from Mayorcis.
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  Speaker 1: In the past year. It was written instruction basically that
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  Speaker 1: they're prevented from pursuing. And they said things like the
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  Speaker 1: stop signs that the coyotes now know, Okay, break a
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  Speaker 1: traffic law immediately as soon as you see border patrol
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  Speaker 1: do something dangerous, run a stop sign and run a
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  Speaker 1: red light, any feed whatever, because the instant you do that,
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  Speaker 1: they're required to stop pursuit. And of course, so it's
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  Speaker 1: encouraging them to run red lights and do things that
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  Speaker 1: are dangerous because of the idiocy of the policy. All right,
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  Speaker 1: So we did that. Then we went out on midnight patrol,
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  Speaker 1: and that's something I do almost every time. I'm down
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  Speaker 1: at the border and you go out and you're looking
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  Speaker 1: to see where illegal aliens are. And we were out
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  Speaker 1: maybe forty five minutes to an hour when we encountered
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  Speaker 1: a group. This group was a group mostly of women
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  Speaker 1: and children. It was about maybe twenty women and children,
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  Speaker 1: mostly kids. And we stood there and we talked to
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  Speaker 1: them for about thirty forty minutes, and we asked them
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  Speaker 1: where they were from. They were from Guatemala, they were
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  Speaker 1: from El Salvador. A number of them were unaccompanied miners.
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  Speaker 1: There was one little girl, a very cute little girl,
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  Speaker 1: was thirteen years old. She had no family with her.
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  Speaker 1: There was another boy who was fifteen years old. He
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  Speaker 1: had no family with her. There was another girl who
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen years old. She had no family with her.
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  Speaker 1: They're all in this group. So we asked them. We said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well where are you going? And they told different places
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  Speaker 1: they were going. One said he was going to Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: Another said she was going to Virginia and we said,
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  Speaker 1: well where, you know where? And their answer was the
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  Speaker 1: same every one of them. They said their teal was there.
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  Speaker 1: Teo is Spanish for uncle, meet tal, meet thial. And
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  Speaker 1: we'd ask, okay, so does your uncle know you're coming? No,
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  Speaker 1: And it started to really dawn on us in a
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  Speaker 1: really depressing way that these kids weren't going to an uncle,
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  Speaker 1: that they were being they're being trafficked, they're being sent somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: They're all told to say they're going to see their theo.
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  Speaker 1: We asked them how many of them had experienced violence
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  Speaker 1: and assault on the trip. I have to say, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: the look on those kids' faces.
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  Speaker 3: Because they know what you're asking.
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  Speaker 1: Their look answered it, and they basically just said it's everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: it's constant. The one that was haunting for me was
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  Speaker 1: in the back. There was this man, a grown man,
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  Speaker 1: maybe thirty five years old, and he was with a
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  Speaker 1: little girl who was ten, and he said she was
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  Speaker 1: his daughter. She said he was her dad. It was
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  Speaker 1: obvious to everyone he was lying, he was not her father.
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  Speaker 1: He had his arm around her and it was like
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  Speaker 1: locked tight, like he was holding her almost so she
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't run away. And the look of terror in that
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  Speaker 1: little girl's face. She was so frightened of this large,
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  Speaker 1: sweaty man who had his arm around her and was
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  Speaker 1: saying he was her father. And there's a frustration and
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  Speaker 1: helplessness that there's nothing we can do. That's nothing the
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  Speaker 1: border could patrol can do, because when they take them in,
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  Speaker 1: the Biden administration instructs them release them. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: during the Trump administration, they had a policy that they
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  Speaker 1: were DNA testing in particular adult man who would present
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  Speaker 1: with young children and claim to be their fathers, because
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  Speaker 1: this was a persistent problem, and they DNA tests them
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  Speaker 1: nor of thirty percent of them had no match. They
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  Speaker 1: were not their fathers. Now, think for a second about
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  Speaker 1: what the risks are of handing a ten year old girl, oh,
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  Speaker 1: grow a man who a grown man who is not
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  Speaker 1: her father. And the reason for this is the policy
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  Speaker 1: under Obama and the policy under Biden is if you
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  Speaker 1: show up with a kid, you get let go immediately.
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  Speaker 1: And so there's a value to bring that child, to
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  Speaker 1: bring story. The cartels effectively rent these kids. But I
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  Speaker 1: gotta say it was sick looking at that little girl
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  Speaker 1: in any sane world, you'd say, get your damn hands.
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  Speaker 3: Off her, and we're gonna DNA test.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to DNA test you, and when we find
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  Speaker 1: out you're not her dad, you're going to be arrested.
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  Speaker 3: Can they even separate the way from the child.
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  Speaker 1: But Biden canceled the DNA tests, Like you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about one of the great scandals, these Democrats who
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  Speaker 1: who prance around and say they're so compassionate. They no
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  Speaker 1: longer test to find out if father and alleged daughter
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  Speaker 1: or father an alleged son are related because they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to know, they don't care. They are perfectly happy
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  Speaker 1: just leaving a pedophile with a little girl or a
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  Speaker 1: little boy who's being abused. I mean, it's sick. I've
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  Speaker 1: never seen so. I've raised this in judiciary committeings repeatedly.
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a Democrat give any reason, compassionate, rational
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  Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you DNA test it when you know.
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  Speaker 3: Because you could accept the trafficking at that moment.
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  Speaker 1: But they don't want to that. Their objective is to
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  Speaker 1: be efficient. They want it to be fast. They want more,
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  Speaker 1: more and more and more and more. I got to
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  Speaker 1: say it was and all five of us. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we were shaken up. When you're looking at little girls,
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  Speaker 1: all or almost all of whom had been sexually assaulted recently,
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  Speaker 1: you could tell the trauma was evident in everything about them,
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  Speaker 1: and it's horrifying. The little thirteen year old girl, she
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  Speaker 1: was going to see her teo. She just had a
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  Speaker 1: number to call. Sarah Carter from Fox News was there
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  Speaker 1: and she said, oh, you want to call him? I
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  Speaker 1: have a cell phone. Do you want to call him
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  Speaker 1: here on my phone? No? No, no, no, no, like
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  Speaker 1: with absolute fear.
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  Speaker 3: Look, and this is every day, all day, twenty four
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  Speaker 3: hours a day.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in all likelihood, that little girl is going to
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  Speaker 1: spend the next several years trapped in forced prostitution. And
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  Speaker 1: that was one day, in one hour. There's a reason
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  Speaker 1: it was interesting. We were talking to the border patrol
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  Speaker 1: agents and we were asking, Okay, do Democrats come down here?
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  Speaker 1: Do they see this? And they said no, and they
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  Speaker 1: said they don't. And they said there are a couple
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  Speaker 1: who've come down and they said they do totally different
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  Speaker 1: things than you guys the Republicans do. They said they
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  Speaker 1: will ever go out on midnight patrol because they don't
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  Speaker 1: want to actually see the kids who are being abused,
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  Speaker 1: because I guess then they would have to lie about
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  Speaker 1: it if they've never seen it. What they do instead
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  Speaker 1: is they go in to the headquarters. They don't want
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  Speaker 1: to actually see the illegal aliens, and they say, Okay, Tuck,
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  Speaker 1: talk to us about what kind of food you're giving
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  Speaker 1: and what kind of medical care you're giving and what
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  Speaker 1: kind of Their whole focus is like a welfare worker,
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  Speaker 1: where they assume the border patrol is a bad guy
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  Speaker 1: and can we give them more stuff? Is basically what
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  Speaker 1: the handful of Democrats who go down there do now,
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  Speaker 1: mind you, Kamala Harris has been to the southern borders
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  Speaker 1: zero times since she became the borders are Joe Biden
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  Speaker 1: has ostensibly been to the border once he went to
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  Speaker 1: El Paso, except when he went there, he didn't go
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  Speaker 1: to any border, any migrant facilities, and his advanced team
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  Speaker 1: cleared all the illegal immigrants off the street. So he
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  Speaker 1: went to a bridge, he met with some government officials,
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  Speaker 1: and he left and according to the White House, he
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  Speaker 1: did not see a single illegal alien. That is a heartlessness,
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  Speaker 1: because when you see these people, by the way, we
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  Speaker 1: did that on midnight patrol also in that group was
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  Speaker 1: a couple, a husband and wife with a little girl
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  Speaker 1: that were from Moldova. The little girl was beautiful, blonde,
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  Speaker 1: blonde curls, maybe two three years old, a gorgeous little girl.
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  Speaker 1: They had gone from Moldova to Holland, to South America,
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  Speaker 1: to Central America, to Mexico, and then trafficked up into
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  Speaker 1: the United States, a many month trip to come from Moldova.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you that couple, it was evident they
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  Speaker 1: had gone through hell, especially the Eastern Europeans. The Border
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  Speaker 1: of Patrol agents told us they will never tell you
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  Speaker 1: what happened to them. That they're very disciplined, like if
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  Speaker 1: you ask, they're just they don't answer questions. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: they won't. They said they're from Moldova, that's it. But
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  Speaker 1: they won't describe what They're too afraid of the cartels.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: They're too afraid of what the cartels would do to
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  Speaker 1: them that they won't describe what happened. But again, it
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  Speaker 1: was obvious these people had gone through hell. And it
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  Speaker 1: makes you angry because this is entirely preventable. And the
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  Speaker 1: reporters Kareem John Pierre, We've talked about this a lot
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  Speaker 1: on the pod stood up and said, well, people are
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  Speaker 1: not just walking across the border. And you remember I
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  Speaker 1: invited her. I said, kareem, come with me.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll show you them walking across the border.
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  Speaker 1: Within an hour. And this last time we found this
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  Speaker 1: group within an hour.
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  Speaker 3: How big was the group?
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  Speaker 1: About twenty mostly kids, little little kids, three and four
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  Speaker 1: year old kids, teenagers, several moms, a couple of men,
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  Speaker 1: but it was mostly women and children. And the border
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  Speaker 1: patrol agents told us they said, in all likelihood, every
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  Speaker 1: one of these children has been sexually abused repeatedly once
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  Speaker 1: that that's just part of the trip being trafficked, is
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  Speaker 1: that you are going to be violently raped repeatedly. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand how if you're Joe Biden, if you're
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, how you don't care about that.
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  Speaker 2: You've seen this a lot. The others that were with
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  Speaker 2: you when they left, what was their demeanor. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you bring other sinners with you, some of them not
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  Speaker 2: from border states.
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  Speaker 1: It's disturbing at a level, like when you see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's different when you look in the eyes of a
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  Speaker 1: ten year old girl who is with an adult male
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  Speaker 1: pretending to be her father. You want to rescue that girl. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but there's nothing you can do there in custody.
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  Speaker 2: Can they even you know, like when you have normal
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  Speaker 2: investigations us and something happens, they'll usually separate.
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  Speaker 3: Even if you're two good guys, they'll separate you to
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  Speaker 3: get your.
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  Speaker 2: Stories to see And I've been told the Biden administration
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  Speaker 2: doesn't even allow them to be separated anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Is that. Well, the bar patrol will do some investigation
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  Speaker 1: if they're behaving very unusually, we'll do some investigation, and
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  Speaker 1: they will occasionally find people who are obviously abusing kids,
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  Speaker 1: but that's not their mandate. Their mandate is process as
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  Speaker 1: fast as possible.
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  Speaker 3: So it's churn and burn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's speed. And by the way, look.
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  Speaker 2: And that really happened to go back in time to
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  Speaker 2: remind people when there was a humanitarian issue and there
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: were some people into that bridge and they started getting
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: the drones up and the media were covering it, and
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: there was tens of thousands of people under this bridge.
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  Speaker 2: It was a humanitarian pr problem. That's when they went
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  Speaker 2: into full expedite and get as fast as they come
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  Speaker 2: in release them so that we don't look like we
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  Speaker 2: have a problem at the border with a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: people gathering.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, release them means send them to
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  Speaker 1: every city in America. Yeah, you look at this supplemental
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: bill that the Biden White House wants Israel military funding,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: but they also want Ukraine added to it. They also
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: want what they call border security, which has nothing to
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: do with border security. It's a whole bunch of money
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  Speaker 1: for more people to process illegal aliens faster, to put
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  Speaker 1: them on more buses and more planes. All right. That
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  Speaker 1: was Thursday night. Friday morning, we wake up, we meet
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  Speaker 1: with senior leadership of the Border Patrol for a briefing
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  Speaker 1: on what's happening. The numbers that continue to skyrocket were
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: upwards of seven point nine million illegal aliens under Joe Biden,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: seven point nine million. After that, we went to the
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  Speaker 1: Ursula facility, which is a facility that is processing illegal immigrants.
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  Speaker 1: There were hundreds and hundreds of illegal immigrants and holding cells.
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  Speaker 1: They separate them. So there were adult males. There were
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  Speaker 1: adult males with criminal convictions. They get lots of adult
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  Speaker 1: males with criminal convictions, they separate them. That's just us convictions.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, they don't know if they have convictions
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  Speaker 1: in Honduras or El Salvador or Venezuela. That's just if
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  Speaker 1: you ask criminal convictions. There are single women. There was
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  Speaker 1: a separate holding cell for pregnant women, filled with pregnant women.
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  Speaker 3: Who have kids in America.
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  Speaker 1: They will have kids in America that will be US citizens.
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  Speaker 1: There right there, there was another cell that was just
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  Speaker 1: for people that are sick, that are coming in with
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  Speaker 1: infectious diseases. You look at this, and by the way,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: these cells the illegal immigrants are many of them are
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: sleeping on the floor. They're packed in side by side
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  Speaker 1: like sardines. I mean a cell will be oh, I
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: don't know, thirty feet wide by sixty feet long, something
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  Speaker 1: like that, and you'll have one hundred illegal immigrants in
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  Speaker 1: there and they'll be lying on the floor, side by
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: side by side, covered in reflective blankets, looks like tinfoil,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and they're just in there. That's every day. By the way,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: those remember the kids in cages, Yeah, those are the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Biden cages. They're still there. And no Democrat cares, Nobody
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  Speaker 1: in the media. Nope, it just it doesn't matter at all.
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  Speaker 1: From there, we went to a stash house. So this
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  Speaker 1: is a stash house. They had just busted. The stash
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  Speaker 1: house was an incredibly dilapidated, nasty house. They had busted it,
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  Speaker 1: and they found two illegals held in there right there,
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  Speaker 1: and so they arrested them. We saw them pulling them
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  Speaker 1: out in handcuffs as we arrived. I mean we were
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  Speaker 1: there minutes after they busted it. Those tend to be
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  Speaker 1: much more dangerous illegal aliens. Why because the ones that
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: are more dangerous try to run an escape. Many of
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  Speaker 1: them just turned themselves in. But if you've got a
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  Speaker 1: criminal conviction, if you're a gang member, if you're MS thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a murderer, a rapist, a child molestor if
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: you're a terrorist, those are the ones that want to
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  Speaker 1: be got aways. And so the cartels will put them
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: in stash houses and hold them for a day or
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  Speaker 1: two and then try to put them on a bus
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  Speaker 1: or you know, put them on some transport to get
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  Speaker 1: get them into the interior. So these stash houses are
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  Speaker 1: located all over the place, down on the southern border.
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  Speaker 1: This stash house, like we opened the door, it was
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  Speaker 1: this totally dilapidated house. There were there were wet clothes.
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  Speaker 1: They had clearly closed across the river recently because they
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  Speaker 1: were soaking wet clothes that were just thrown on the
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  Speaker 1: ground right there. There were piles of clothing, shoes, shirts,
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  Speaker 1: I mean just piled up. There was one tiny little
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: air conditioner in the house, but the walls were falling down.
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  Speaker 1: The house was filthy, it's stunk and that, and and
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  Speaker 1: they don't know who owned it that. They said, that
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  Speaker 1: house has probably been rented to twenty different people. They'll
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: try to track down. But the cartels, by the way,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: there was a lock on the outside, so they put
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the illegals in there and lock them in.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: There was not a caretaker there when they busted it.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So sometimes they'll have the cartel person watching them. And look.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: The stash houses are also where they will rape women. Again.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They will shake people down for more money. In that case,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they were just holding these two guys. The two guys
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: they pulled out were both single adult men, I'd say
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: twenties or thirties, military age men, lots of tats, pretty
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: rough looking guys. They got pulled out in handcuffs. We
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: don't know their story. From there. We went out on
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: horseback patrol, and so the border Patrol has a whole
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: division that is on horseback because much of the terrain
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: there you can't even get to with vehicles. And so
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: we spent about an hour on horseback patrolling and riding
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: along the Rio Grande. Then we met with local leaders,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: including the mayor of a big Mexican city on the
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: other side of the border, who was expressing enormous frustration. Said, look,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: your policies are killing us, are resulting in my city
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be invaded. He said, We've got tens of thousands of
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: people camping out in my city because when they come
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: to the United States, you guys let him go. Now,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: his argument, what he wanted is he said, couldn't you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: just take him at the embassy so they don't have
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: to come to the border. Look, he was fine with
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: us letting him all in. He just didn't want them
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to have to cross through his city. So he's like,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: can't you be even more efficient and like flying from
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Mexico City or something. I wasn't terribly interested in that suggestion.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair point.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: And then the last thing we did is we went
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: out with border patrol on the boat went up and
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: down the river. It was interesting, you're going to up
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and down the river all along the shore. We probably
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: saw twenty different discarded rafts that are like green vinyl,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: but they were done. They were sort of you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: thracks out and just just laying along the laying along
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the shore, probably twenty of them that had been used
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to either shuttle illegal aliens or shuttle drugs. And then
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: several times we saw people that the Border Patrol agent
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: said were cartel scouts that were just Mexicans on the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Mexican side of the border. They were like standing a
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: little bit in the river and like pretending to fish
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: or something, but they weren't really fishing. They were there
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: watching us to radio back, Okay, here's what the Border
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Patrol is doing. And then we ended with a press conference.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: But you know the press conference, we tried to talk
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: about what happened. What is happening at the border is
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: horrific and it keeps getting words.
• 21:27
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• 23:05
  Speaker 2: to other stuff. But there are new threats that are
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: against our men and women at the border, our border
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: patrol agents. We're seeing bounties on them. We're seeing people
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that are willing to pay for their family's addresses, where
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: they're hang where they're living, where they're renting with, they're
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: in a hotel, whatever it may be. There's a new
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: level of boldness from the cartels that are now saying
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: we want these border patrol agents to be afraid of
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: us and not do their job and just disappear.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Look, it is very dangerous. The threats against border patrol
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: agents are real. Just this past week I sent an
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: oversight letter to Alejandro Majorcas saying, what are you doing
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: to protect border patrol agents given these threats, Given that
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: they're paying for their home addresses, their families addresses, they're
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: threatening their families, what are you doing? And if you
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: can't protect your agencies, you need to resign. He needs
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to resign regardless.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: Is a Republican should take up in the House. We
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: got a new speaker now, Yes, because there's enough evidence.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Now it's not it's.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: A house should impeach Mayorcus, and absolutely yes, for absolute
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: dereliction of duty, for defying federal law, for facilitating the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: invasion of the United States of America by seven point
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: nine million people, for facilitating the deaths of seven hundred
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and fifty three migrants last year. For facilitating the rape
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: and sexual abuse of thousands of women and thousands of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: little children. For one hundred thousand overdoses, including seventy percent
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: from Chinese fentanyl across the southern border. All of that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Alejandro Majorcus is responsible for. And he doesn't give a dam.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: And by the way, you remember when I questioned him
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee. I asked him
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: about the colored wristbands. He said he had no idea
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: what they worrer, he'd never seen them before. When I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: was down there, I found several colored wristbands just laying
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: on the ground. It takes you about a minute to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: do it. The wristbands. The colors correspond to how many
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: thousands of dollars they owe the cartels. They are modern
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: day leg irons. And that group we met, we met
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a group of slaves and it's horrified. You feel like
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you're back pre Civil war and you encounter slave traders.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: People are gonna say, how did you know they're actually slaves?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: You're making it up, you're exaggerating. I know the Left
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: is gonna say when you say you meet slaves, explain that.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: When you talk to little girls and they say they're
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: going to some random too who they don't know his name,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: they don't know who he is, they say, oh, he
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't know him coming, but I just have a number
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to call.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: You're in slavery.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: You are in slavery. And it sounds harsh to say
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Democrats don't care. But if you cared, you do something
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: about it. If Joe Biden cared, he could stop it.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: If Alejandro Mayorks cared, he could stop it. If Democrats
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: senators cared, they could join us and trying to force
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden to stop it. But they don't. The Democrat
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Senate has zero interest. Look two and a half years
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: of Biden being president, I have not seen one single
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Democrat senator on judiciary question, one single witness about the slavery,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: about the sexual assault, about the abuse of migrants by
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the traffickers. Now they're all four made up stories. So
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: you remember there was that whole thing about border patrol
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: agents or whipping migrants. Yes, and it was a completely
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: made up lie where they focused on the reins of
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the horse. By the way, we were riding those horses.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: We have long reins that are used for riding the horse,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but they weren't. I mean, it was a total lie
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that got Democrats very excited because they're full investigation.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Ye should be fired immediately.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: But when it comes to the cartels, look at lunchtime,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: we sat down with local community leaders. We sat down
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: with the mayor McCallan, who's a Republican, a good friend.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: We sat down with the sheriff of Brooks County. Brooks
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: County is north and where Brooks County is there's a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: checkpoint at FW Furious And so what happens is the
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: smugglers don't want to be caught at the checkpoint, so
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: they stop south of the checkpoint and they make all
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants get out and they go through Brooks
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: County to get around the checkpoint. And Brooks County is
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: a pretty rugged county. It's in the summer time, it's
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: brutally hot. There's not a lot of water there and
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the number of deaths that they find. They just the
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: farmers and ranchers find dead bodies, one after the other
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: after the other after the other. There are emergency beacons
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: that they've installed that have writing for illegal immigrants. The
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: first language you see is Chinese. Wow, they have writing
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: in Chinese. They have writing in Arabic, and it's pushed this.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: If you're in distress, the border patrol will come rescue you,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: but they go off and the coyotes. If you're in distress,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: they just abandon you.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't care if you're a friendant lady.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: If you're elderly, if you're a little kid, you will die.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: The sheriff of Brooks County had brought a three ring
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: binder with about one hundred different cases of bodies they'd
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: found in Brooks County. Wow, and I sat there band
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: and I flipped through it one at a time. The
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: conditions of those bodies, I have to tell you, I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: was physically ill seeing in the heat. People's face gets charred,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they get blown up and enlarged. Just the effects of
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the weather are grotesque. There were multiple young women who
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: had died, and every one of them had their pants
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: open and pulled down, and it was clear they'd been
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: raped before. They died, one after the other after the other.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And I actually made a point, I said, I'm going
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to go through this entire book. These are human beings.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: I need to see what's happening. I get to say,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know a reporter at CNN or MSNBC or
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: ABC or CBS or NBC, who goes through that book,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: who covers that book, who tells the story. These are
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the Biden body bags. These are the people who are
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: dying because of your policies.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Last question on the border, how concerned re border patrol
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: agents over the possibility of terrorists not possibility, the reality
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: that terrorists are coming across at a much higher rate
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: than we've seen over the last five years combined. We
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: talked about this on a previous verdict, but this is
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: the first time you've been down there since these new
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: numbers have been released that are saying there's a significant
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: increase of terrorists that are on the terrorists watch list
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that we are catching.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: The border does counting the ones that were not catching.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So look, they're very concerned. We talked about, particularly with
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: the war in Israel, Hamas and Hesbela specifically targeting coming
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: across the border. As we talked about in last week's podcast,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the San Diego Division of the Border Patrol instructed their
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: agents be on the lookout for people from Hamas and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Hesbela hiding and pretending that they're not in the Rio
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Grand Valley. They said they had not encountered recently people
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: from Hamas and Hesbela, so in the last couple of
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: weeks that had not yet presented. They're worried about it.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: They're watching for it now. It's worth noting if you're
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a Hamas terrorist, you're not going to be in the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: people that are turning themselves involuntarily. Sure, you're going to
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be in the Godaways. And one of the real problem
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: is the volume is so great that it overwhelms the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Border Patrol agents, so that you have on any given
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: night no capacity to even chase the Godaways. And so
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: that evening muster was I was talking with Brandon Judd,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: who's the head of the Border Patrol Union, a good friend.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: He was with us, and he was saying, he said,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: all right, that night, he said, typically that night there
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: would be about one hundred and seventy agents that are
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: available to go out on patrol. He said that night
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: there were thirty one that were available because all of
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: the rest were doing paperwork and processing and handling the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: detention facility. So it should have been one hundred and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: seventy some odd instead it was thirty one. That's part
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: of how the cartels overwhelm us is the bulk of
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the manpower is not actually on the border securing it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Their marsh is a great example. They're off planes now
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: processing at the border.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, the exact same thing. And then so this group
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that they encountered, So this group, there were several agents,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: he said, Okay, they're thirty one that started at midnight
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: out on patrol. This one group, you've got twenty to
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: twenty five, mostly women and children. You have several agents
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to go pick them up. You've got to detain them,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you've got to question them, you've got to process them.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: He said, that group will take five to ten off
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: the field, so that means thirty one becomes twenty one.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: By the way, where they were there was no transport bus,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: so they had to load them in the back of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: pickup trucks. All these kids in the back of pickup
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: trucks and you know what they told me. They said, okay,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: this is against the rules. Yeah, but are they just
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: supposed to leave them here? What else are they supposed
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: to do. They don't have any vehicle to put him in,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so they put them in the back of the pickup
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: truck to take him in the processing center. And he said,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know what if something happens, if that car gets
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: an erect, if a kid jumps out the back and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: hurts himself, those agents will be disciplined or fired for
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: transporting them unsafely. And he said, now, there's no alternative
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: way to transport them. They could leave these children out here,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: just say okay bye.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: They could die.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: There's a reason the Democrats don't come. There's a reason
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: CNN doesn't come. You cannot see this and spin it
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is great, this is perfectly okay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Senator, I also want to bring in our guests. We've
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: talked a lot about kids, protecting kids. We also have
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: problems in this country where we have basically given our
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: kids over to the government and parents are trying to
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: get back in their kids' lives. Have been declared domestic
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: terrorists by our own government, which is shocking. A good
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: friend of the show, someone that you used to do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Verdict Plus with. People will know her from that. Liz
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Wheeler has her own great show. She's got an incredible
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: new book out as well, and I know it was
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: important that we make sure we had her on Verdict.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Well, Liz, welcome back. Liz is my former co host
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: of Verdict. We did Verdict together. We traveled the country,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: We went to college campuses together and dealt with young
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: leftists who had questions and wanted to be confronted with
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the truth. And Liz does an amazing job on our
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: own show, on the Liz Wheeler Show, and she has
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: a brand new book, Hide Your Children, exposing the Marxists
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: behind the attack on American kids.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Liz, welcome back, Senator, Thanks so much for having me.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: Thanks Ben, good to have you here.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about this book, why you
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: wanted to write it, and why so important, especially right now.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this book started as a question that I think
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: a lot of parents actually had the same question that
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: I had during COVID when we saw this increase in
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: attacks on our children. I mean, all parents had to
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: do is look over their kids shoulder on zoom school
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: and they'd see critical race theory and trans ideology, the
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: sixteen nineteen project, plus good old fashioned moral relativism just
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: thrown at their kids. And I understand that this isn't
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: a new thing, that our kids are the target of
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: the left, but it did seem to be escalating. So
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I wondered, well, where is this coming from, Who's behind this,
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: what's behind this, what's their goal? So the purpose of
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: this book is I sought to find the answer to
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: that question, and what I found was both frightening and frustrating.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: The frightening part is that the left has spent decades
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: trying to get to our children, and to do so
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: they have co opted They've captured what I call four
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: of the five major cultural institutions, so the media, that's
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: an obvious one, the education says sadly, a lot of
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: religious institutions, to the law, which has become evident in
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years. And now they've set their
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: sights on the nuclear family, particularly on children. This is
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: the frightening part. The frustrating part is if this attack
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: on our children isn't new, if it's been decades in
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: the making, why haven't we been able to stop this?
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: What has the Republican Party been doing for all of
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: these decades to fight back. And so what I do
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: in the book, the first half of the book is
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: I name the names of the people and the organizations
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: that are behind the capture of the institutions, behind the
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: attack on our kids. And the second half of the
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: book is a critique of the Republican Party. I offer
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: a solution that I will tell you is different than
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: what the Republican Party offers for how we can actually
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: start winning, how we can recapture our institutions, how we
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: can protect our kids and therefore our country.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: All Right, so let's take those one at a time.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: You said the first half of the book, you're naming names.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So who are the biggest names, Who are the individuals
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: most responsible for the relentless attack on our kids?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great question. So what I do in
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: the book is I make sure to differentiate between the
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Marxists who conceived the ideas, many of whom are lung dead,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: and the current Marxist, the modern Marxists that are alive
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: and well in our country today, who are propagating these
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: ideas on our children. And I'll give you an example
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: of one of each one of the modern Marxists who's
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: propagating an entirely destructive ideology in our children is a
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: woman by the name of Gail Rubin. Gail Rubin is
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  Speaker 4: known as the founder or she wrote the founding document
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  Speaker 4: of queer theory. Queer theory is a neo Marxist theory that,
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  Speaker 4: unsurprising to most of your viewers, is what underpins the
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  Speaker 4: transgender ideology. So these poisonous ideas that are being taught
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  Speaker 4: to children in school right now, that boys can be girls,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: girls can be boys. Gender is not connected to biological sex.
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  Speaker 4: Everything's fluid. This is not just a random assortment of nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: This is pulled directly from neo Marxist queer theory, which
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  Speaker 4: was penned by Gail Rubin, who is alive and well
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  Speaker 4: in our country today. And yet most people, maybe in
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  Speaker 4: the past couple months, they've heard about her because I've
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  Speaker 4: been talking so much about her. Most people have never
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  Speaker 4: heard of this woman, even though she's having such a
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  Speaker 4: direct and destructive impact on our children. That's the first example.
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  Speaker 4: The second example I will give is a Marxist who
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  Speaker 4: is long dead, and that's a Marxist, a Brazilian Marxist,
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  Speaker 4: actually by the name of Pallo Friari. He was the
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  Speaker 4: one who contended that teachers in school shouldn't teach children
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  Speaker 4: facts and knowledge, he should teach them a worldview, how
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  Speaker 4: to view the world, and he called this worldview critical consciousness.
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  Speaker 4: What critical consciousness is really is just teaching children to
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  Speaker 4: look at everything through a Marxist lens. And this idea
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  Speaker 4: of critical consciousness is what exists in our public school
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  Speaker 4: system today under the all encompassing, vague umbrella term of wokeness.
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  Speaker 4: So I trace everything back to its origins and show
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  Speaker 4: the manifestations of how it's impacting our kids in our
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  Speaker 4: society in America today.
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  Speaker 2: Liz, I want to ask you about moms specifically. I've
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  Speaker 2: actually been inspired and I think TC and I and
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: we've been on the road, we've seen this. There are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of moms have gotten off the bench and
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  Speaker 2: are getting really involved with their kids and their kids
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  Speaker 2: curriculum and what's having their schools and what they're being taught.
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  Speaker 2: That's one of the biggest blessings I think of the
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  Speaker 2: COVID lockdowns was moms got to see in the classroom
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  Speaker 2: what was happening with their kids. I'm inspired by that,
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  Speaker 2: and I think this is going to be something that
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  Speaker 2: the liberals are going to have hell to pay now
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  Speaker 2: with moms that are now involved. Is that part of
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  Speaker 2: what you're seeing and inspiring you to write this book.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's incredible to see how many parents, moms and
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  Speaker 4: dads who've had their eyes opened. I think as conservatives,
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  Speaker 4: we're generally people of good faith. We generally like to
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  Speaker 4: give other people the benefit of the doubt. We generally
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: see the good in humanity, and sometimes because of that,
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  Speaker 4: it can be difficult to look at our political opposition
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  Speaker 4: and label them for what they are. We'd rather say, oh,
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: you know what, this is a well intentioned, good faith
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  Speaker 4: opposition who just has unwise practical solutions to problems that
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: we all admit our problems. That's how the Republican Party
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  Speaker 4: actually has operated for the last fifty years. But I
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  Speaker 4: think for the first time in many many parents' lives
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  Speaker 4: during COVID they saw that, No, that's not true. Our
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Democrat opposition are not well intentioned, well intentioned opposition who
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  Speaker 4: want the best just ha but have bad ideas for
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: how to bring that about. They are in fact embracing
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  Speaker 4: Neo Marxist, anti Christian anti Americans, sometimes anti human ideology,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a really important step in fighting back against
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: this to be able to define what the other side is.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I spent so much time doing that in
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  Speaker 4: the first half of my book, because if we don't
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  Speaker 4: understand the reality of this political enemy we face, we
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  Speaker 4: won't fight well against it. And if we don't fight well,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: we won't win. And I'm tired of not winning. I'm
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: ready to win. As I know everyone watching the show
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: is too.
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  Speaker 1: Amen. All right, Liz, last question. You said the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the book focuses on a critique of the
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  Speaker 1: Republican Party and what we need to do better to
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  Speaker 1: fight back. What does the Republican Party need to do
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  Speaker 1: to stop this madness?
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, this is the part of the book that I'm
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  Speaker 4: proudest of, and I know it's the part that's ruffled
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  Speaker 4: some feathers a little bit, but I stand by this
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent. So I'll give you an example of
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  Speaker 4: one of the most interesting pieces of information that I
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  Speaker 4: found in the course of researching this book. Our public
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  Speaker 4: school system was not mandatory. Children were not compelled to
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  Speaker 4: go to public school until you're eighteen fifty two. In
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: eighteen fifty two, the state of Massachusetts became the first
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: state to compel public education. And the reason why was
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: because there was an influx of immigrants to our country
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: at the time, particularly Catholic immigrants, and the Protestant politicians
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: in charge wanted to indoctrinate these immigrant children in American
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: values so that they would be loyal to America first
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  Speaker 4: rather than the country of their birth, and in Protestant
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  Speaker 4: doctrine because of the centuries long battle between Protestants and Catholics,
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  Speaker 4: and I realized that our institutions were never intended to
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: be neutral institutions. Our school system was never intended to
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: simply teach reading, writing, and arithmetic and otherwise be value neutral.
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  Speaker 4: We as conservatives and the Republican Party, do not harness
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: these institutions to teach children our values. What's going to
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: happen is the left is going to swoop in and
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: teach their own. The Republican Party has fallen for the
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: false idea of tolerance and neutrality which doesn't exist. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: perhaps the philosophical reason for this is because they misdefine
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: the word liberty. They define liberty as simply the maximum
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: amount of individual freedom possible in a civil society, when
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: really our government was formed around the idea that liberty
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  Speaker 4: is the means to something greater, that there's a moral
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  Speaker 4: the thing that is greater is a moral thing, and
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  Speaker 4: that our society, a flourishing society, is intended to try
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  Speaker 4: to attain that. And Republicans have gotten very shy of
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: bringing religion or morals or anything of that nature into
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: our politics, and it's been to our detriment. We wouldn't
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: be in the chaos, the cultural chaos that we exist
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: and now if Republicans had not surrendered both institutions the
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  Speaker 4: name of neutrality and morality and virtue in the name
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: of libertarianism to the left a long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: List.
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  Speaker 2: America's kids.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations, Thank you, gentlemen.
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