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Martin _ Millicent_ How Islam Is Quietly Reshaping the West _ The Jesus People Podcast · truthunedited

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  Speaker 1: There's a Muslim there that recognizes Martin from social media,
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  Speaker 1: gets on the phone, starts making all these threats on
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  Speaker 1: his phone to intimidate us. And really, they're trying to
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  Speaker 1: intimidate us into silence. But this is why you can't
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  Speaker 1: intimidate a Christian into silence is because God is the
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  Speaker 1: author of my life and he decides how long I live.
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  Speaker 1: And no human being will ever stop us from speaking
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  Speaker 1: the truth of God's word because at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the day, Even death itself does not make us afraid
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  Speaker 1: because you can't kill a Christian.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 1: We just change locations.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk, they didn't kill him. He's just now in
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  Speaker 1: the presence of God in heaven.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, welcome to the Jesus People podcast. We've got the
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  Speaker 2: honor of having Martin and Millicent Cedra here. You guys
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  Speaker 2: are killers, man. I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 3: We love you, man. Thank you. It's an honor to
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  Speaker 3: be here.
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  Speaker 1: Honor to be here, yes.
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  Speaker 3: We love you. All the way from Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Love what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: All the way from Australia. Flew 16 hours just to
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  Speaker 3: be here.
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  Speaker 2: Can you feel the freedom?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man. I feel the freedom.
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  Speaker 2: It feels free.
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  Speaker 3: Feel the presence of God. Someone give me a gun.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have guns in Australia. I need a gun
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  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we could go hit a range or two.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't trust an Arab with
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  Speaker 3: a gun, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It feels free.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like the promised land.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You come off the plane, you just feel.
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  Speaker 3: The presence of God. You feel God here, man.
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  Speaker 4: You do.
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  Speaker 3: You feel God.
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  Speaker 1: And everybody, like, and every Uber we take, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: they're a Christian.
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  Speaker 3: Someone's a Christian somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: There's just Christians everywhere. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you guys have an incredible ministry, an incredible church,
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  Speaker 2: an incredible online presence. It's like the Lord has clearly
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  Speaker 2: divinely put you two together because you guys are just,
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  Speaker 2: I mean... Millicent, you're like a firecracker, dude. You're like
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  Speaker 2: watching your stuff on social media. I'm just like, this
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  Speaker 2: lady is killing it. Like you are going, you are
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  Speaker 2: charging enemy territory and your voice speaking and really illuminating
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  Speaker 2: the Western world about Islam. If you guys haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: the Sedras on social media, you need to leave this video,
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  Speaker 2: go follow them, Millicent and Martin Sedra on Instagram, YouTube,
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  Speaker 2: wherever it is, because you guys are trailblazers. You guys
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  Speaker 2: are eye openers. You are awakening people to really what
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  Speaker 2: is happening in the world and the threat of Islam.
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  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people, we've found ourselves
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  Speaker 2: in this kind of wishy-washy postmodern society where we can't
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  Speaker 2: call out evil and you guys are just charging it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I'd love to hear a bit of your story.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love for you guys to talk a bit about
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  Speaker 2: your ministry now. We were chatting just in the kitchen
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  Speaker 2: earlier and hearing some of the threats you guys are facing,
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  Speaker 2: which is very real. especially in the wake of Charlie dying.
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  Speaker 2: It's very real. And so we want to be praying
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  Speaker 2: for the Sedras. All of us that are listening now,
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  Speaker 2: we need to cover you guys in prayer. But tell
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  Speaker 2: us the backstory. How did two pistols come.
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  Speaker 3: Together and get married?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to go all the way from Egypt?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's go all the way from 1998. I
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  Speaker 3: was born in Egypt. Egypt 1,400 years ago was a
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  Speaker 3: Christian country. Egypt was 90% Christian, believe it or not.
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  Speaker 3: There was a historian that was writing about Egypt, and
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  Speaker 3: he said, I was traveling through Egypt from the Nile
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  Speaker 3: River to the bottom of Egypt. And he said, all
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  Speaker 3: I can hear, and he records this in his journals.
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  Speaker 3: He said, all I can hear was hymns and worship
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  Speaker 3: music and worship songs. And this shows you just how
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  Speaker 3: deep Christianity was in the roots of Egypt. And 1,400
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  Speaker 3: years ago, the Muslims came, conquered Egypt, killed the pastors,
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  Speaker 3: burned the churches, raped the women, took the children, made
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  Speaker 3: them Muslims. And now it's flipped. Now it's not 90%
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  Speaker 3: Christian anymore. It's 90% Muslim. So that's kind of the
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  Speaker 3: country we grew up in. Me and my family.
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  Speaker 1: When you say we, you don't mean me.
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  Speaker 3: Not you. As you can tell, she's Aussie.
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  Speaker 2: Not Egyptian.
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  Speaker 3: Not Egyptian. But we grew up in Egypt. My dad,
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  Speaker 3: his main ministry was to preach to Muslims and convert
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  Speaker 3: them to Christianity. It's very hard to plant a church
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  Speaker 3: in Egypt. They have a lot of regulations there. over
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  Speaker 3: where you can plant, how you can do it, how
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  Speaker 3: big the church is. So my dad decided, I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to take a different route, go with evangelism to the Muslims,
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  Speaker 3: which was pretty much committing suicide in a Muslim country
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  Speaker 3: under Sharia law. That's apostasy laws. If you leave Islam,
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  Speaker 3: you die. And the pastor or the Christian that converted
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  Speaker 3: you dies as well. So my dad's main ministry was
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  Speaker 3: to convert Muslims to Christianity. And he was seeing hundreds,
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  Speaker 3: if not thousands, come to Christ. Women take their hijab off,
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  Speaker 3: repent of their sins. muslim men come to christ and
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  Speaker 3: really he was putting all our life in danger um
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  Speaker 3: we kind of our whole family was always getting death
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  Speaker 3: threats people waiting outside of our house um multiple stories
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  Speaker 3: of nearly dying for our faith but really the pinnacle
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  Speaker 3: of our story comes when my dad converted a specific
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  Speaker 3: woman he was having just you know a prayer meeting
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  Speaker 3: in his house invited lots of muslim people a muslim
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  Speaker 3: woman would happen to be sitting there in a hijab
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  Speaker 3: and my dad was preaching jesus the love of christ
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  Speaker 3: by the end of the meeting she repents of her sin.
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  Speaker 3: She turns to Christianity. She leaves Islam. My dad doesn't
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  Speaker 3: know that her husband was a leader of a Muslim
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  Speaker 3: terrorist group. So he didn't know. He just thought she
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  Speaker 3: was a Muslim ordinary woman. Her husband happens to be
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  Speaker 3: a Muslim leader in a terrorist group. And that guy
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  Speaker 3: finds out that someone preached to his wife and he's furious.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, how dare this guy preach to my wife,
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  Speaker 3: convert to Christianity. He decides I'm going to take revenge
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  Speaker 3: on the pastor. How? By killing his children. At the time,
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  Speaker 3: my brothers, Andrew and John were nine years old and five.
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  Speaker 3: And he studied their movements. He studied that my brothers
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  Speaker 3: catch a school bus at seven in the morning. So
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  Speaker 3: he sent two men and the plan was two men
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  Speaker 3: come in advance seven in the morning to the bus stop,
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  Speaker 3: kidnap my brothers, behead them, put them in a bag,
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  Speaker 3: send them back to the front door of my dad's
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  Speaker 3: house to teach him a lesson. Don't preach Jesus again.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what Islam does. Anytime, if you come against Islam,
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  Speaker 3: the sword of Muhammad will come to you, whether you
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  Speaker 3: like it or not, whether it's a gun or A gun,
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  Speaker 3: a bomb, a knife. Someone's going to come after you.
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  Speaker 3: So really, he sends two men, Muslim men, in a
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  Speaker 3: van to the school bus. They see my brothers, Andrew, John,
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  Speaker 3: five and nine at the bus stop. As they try
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  Speaker 3: to get out of the van, they feel frozen in
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  Speaker 3: the van. They can't get out. There's two Muslim men.
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  Speaker 3: They feel frozen in the van. My brothers get on
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  Speaker 3: a school bus. The school bus leaves. The two Muslim
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  Speaker 3: men unfreeze again. They look at each other, they're like,
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  Speaker 3: you coward. They think, you know, the two Muslim men.
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  Speaker 1: They're like trained assassins.
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  Speaker 3: They're trained, like they've killed preachers, politicians before. To kill
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  Speaker 3: a five and a nine-year-old should be very easy. They
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  Speaker 3: can't do it. So they think they're just frozen out
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  Speaker 3: of fear. They're like, you coward, you coward. The next day,
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  Speaker 3: the boss is angry. So he sends two bigger Muslim men.
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  Speaker 3: And he says, you finished your job. He sends two
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  Speaker 3: bigger Muslim men in a van. They see my brothers
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  Speaker 3: at the bus stop 7 in the morning. This time,
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  Speaker 3: the two Muslim men get out of the van. They're
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  Speaker 3: standing right behind my brothers at the school bus. And
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  Speaker 3: as they go to kidnap my brothers, bear in mind
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  Speaker 3: they're 5 and 9. As they go to kidnap them,
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  Speaker 3: to behead them, they feel a supernatural hand, an angel,
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  Speaker 3: tie their hands behind their back. So these two Muslim
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  Speaker 3: men don't know who it is or what's going on.
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  Speaker 3: They can't move. Both their hands are tied behind their head.
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  Speaker 3: They watch my brothers. My brothers get on the school bus.
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  Speaker 3: The school bus leaves and they unfreeze again. The two
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  Speaker 3: Muslim men now are in shock. This never happened before.
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  Speaker 3: They don't know what's going on. The Muslim leader, after
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  Speaker 3: hearing the story, he goes to my dad's house, knocks
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  Speaker 3: on the door. My dad opens the door. He's like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you doing here? He sits with him in
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  Speaker 3: the living room just like we're sitting now. He tells
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  Speaker 3: him the story. That's how we know the ins and
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  Speaker 3: outs of the story. He says, I'll try to kill
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  Speaker 3: your kids and all these things. And he lands a
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  Speaker 3: story about saying, I've tried to kill your children, but
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  Speaker 3: your God protected them. And a Muslim Brotherhood leader becomes
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  Speaker 3: a Christian in the living room, turns from Islam, repents
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  Speaker 3: of his sin. And he's still a Christian today. He's
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  Speaker 3: actually living in America somewhere. We don't know where he is,
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  Speaker 3: but he's living in America now. And this is kind
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  Speaker 3: of the story we grew up in. And really what
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  Speaker 3: this story shows us is the God of the Bible
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  Speaker 3: is greater than Allah. Jesus Christ is stronger than Allah.
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  Speaker 3: He's stronger than Muhammad. All of Islam combined, the 2
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  Speaker 3: billion Muslims around the world, they cannot stand against the
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  Speaker 3: God of the Bible. So that's kind of where we
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  Speaker 3: grew up in. We moved to Egypt. We moved to
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  Speaker 3: Australia as refugees in 2007.
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  Speaker 1: He was meant to come to the USA but got rejected.
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  Speaker 3: We got rejected.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you, Jesus.
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  Speaker 3: Because then he came to my country. So we moved
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  Speaker 3: to Australia. You tell them where we're at.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I grew up. Christian, I grew up in church,
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  Speaker 1: amazing prayer warrior parents. You know how these days a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people say, I don't want to force Christianity
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  Speaker 1: on my kids. I want to let them decide. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not going to teach them the Bible. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to make them come to church. My parents were like, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're coming to church. If you're sick, grab a tissue.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go.
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  Speaker 3: We're going.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm so grateful for that. I'm so grateful that
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  Speaker 1: my parents raised me in those values. And so at
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  Speaker 1: 13 years old, I knew from the age of eight
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  Speaker 1: that All I wanted to do was preach his word.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what that looked like or how, but
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  Speaker 1: I remember having an encounter with God when I was
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  Speaker 1: eight and all I wanted to do was preach. And
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  Speaker 1: so basically for the next few years, I was just,
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  Speaker 1: just reading his words, studying his word. And then at 13,
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  Speaker 1: Martin was preaching in front at Hillsong. It was like
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  Speaker 1: a Hillsong conference. It was preaching. It was a youth
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  Speaker 1: conference and he was preaching at 13 years old because
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  Speaker 1: that's just what they do. Like that's, that was the
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  Speaker 1: Sedra family. He had just seen how his dad would
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  Speaker 1: keep preaching in the face of death threats, in the
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  Speaker 1: face of all of this kind of stuff, going to prison.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what they do. They just preach. That's
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  Speaker 1: all they know. And so he would go into his
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  Speaker 1: school and start a lunchtime group. And there'd be 300
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  Speaker 1: students in this public school hearing the gospel preached from
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  Speaker 1: this 13-year-old. And so he was preaching, basically. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw him. And I told my parents I'd met my
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  Speaker 1: husband at 13 years old. I knew straight away. Because I...
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  Speaker 1: I was not the type that was like, since the
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  Speaker 1: age of eight, I was not the type of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: let's just do Christianity casually.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm fully sold out. I'm all in. And
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  Speaker 1: so I was looking, I would not marry somebody that
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  Speaker 1: was not also sold in, sold out and completely all in. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he had told me when we were 18,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what our life would look like. He's like,
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  Speaker 1: we might never own a house. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: country we'll.
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  Speaker 3: End up in.
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  Speaker 1: We might be in India as preachers, as evangelists. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but we're sold out and we're doing whatever
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  Speaker 1: Jesus tells us. And I was like, done. That's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I want too.
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  Speaker 3: And so I got married at 20. And now we've
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  Speaker 3: been married for eight years and one kid on the way.
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  Speaker 2: So let's see what God takes of us. Have you
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  Speaker 2: announced it this year?
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  Speaker 3: No, we haven't announced it.
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  Speaker 1: He keeps just announcing it casually.
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  Speaker 3: I keep announcing it on podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's fun.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe our announcement can be just like all.
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  Speaker 3: The clips of you just saying I'm pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: You're right.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, let's do that. That's a good idea. Yeah. So
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  Speaker 3: we're having a baby, guys. Let's go, dude. I pray
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't look like me. Congratulations. It looks like Millie.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, man. Yeah. Yeah. So we're really– yeah, man.
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  Speaker 3: We're really here to warn our girls.
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  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, that kid is going to be
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  Speaker 2: a firecracker.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. Holy smokes. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: The DNA of both of you guys, the spirit of
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  Speaker 2: both of you guys into one child– Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. I'm praying for a preacher. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're going to get one.
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  Speaker 3: Amen. Amen. Amen. No, man. So we're here. We're really
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  Speaker 3: here to warn the West about the dangers of Islam
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  Speaker 3: because the lie is at the moment, Ryan, is Islam
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  Speaker 3: is a religion of peace. And this word or this
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  Speaker 3: term of Islam, the religion of peace is a very
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  Speaker 3: new term. About 1970, 1980, the Muslims realized, all right,
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  Speaker 3: we're not going to conquer the West. through violence. It's
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  Speaker 3: not going to work that way. So we need to
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  Speaker 3: change our strategy. So they begin calling it Islam, the
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  Speaker 3: religion of peace. And they said it over and over again.
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  Speaker 3: And now this is kind of the story around Islam.
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  Speaker 3: But we all know Islam is not a religion of peace.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, when you look at Islam and the fruits
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  Speaker 3: of Islam, Islam is a religion of war, violence, and terror.
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  Speaker 3: And this is not some radical Islam. This is the
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  Speaker 3: origin of Islam. When he studied the origin... I think
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  Speaker 3: that's where you kind of wanted to go, right?
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  Speaker 4: Islam.
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  Speaker 3: When he studied the origins of Islam... for all my
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  Speaker 3: listeners who don't know Islam, because a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: don't know what Islam is. So Judaism, obviously 3,000 year
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  Speaker 3: old religion. They're waiting the Messiah. They think the Messiah
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  Speaker 3: is going to come on a horse, a chariot to
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  Speaker 3: save them from, you know, the repressors and the Romans
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  Speaker 3: as a conqueror. Jesus comes born of a Virgin Mary 2,000
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  Speaker 3: years ago. He comes born in Bethlehem in a manger.
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  Speaker 3: At the age of 30, he claims to be God.
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  Speaker 3: And the Jews are like, no, you're not God. Some
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  Speaker 3: Jews believe that turns into Christianity. Christianity is birthed. We
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  Speaker 3: believe that Jesus is the Messiah. He is the son
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  Speaker 3: of God. He's God in the flesh. Emmanuel, God with us. Now,
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  Speaker 3: 570 years later, after the birth of Jesus Christ, Bear
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  Speaker 3: in mind, Jesus died. He rose again. Christianity has exploded
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  Speaker 3: all throughout the world through persecution. And now Christianity is
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  Speaker 3: really blowing up. 570 AD, so 570 years after the
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  Speaker 3: birth of Jesus, a guy by the name of Muhammad
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  Speaker 3: is born in Mecca. He's born as an, he's actually
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  Speaker 3: an orphan. His parents are not around. He's raised by
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  Speaker 3: his uncle or someone in his family. And at the
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  Speaker 3: age of 40, 610 AD, he sees Angel Gabriel, or
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  Speaker 3: he thinks it's Angel Gabriel, in a cave and apparently
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  Speaker 3: angel gabriel tells him hey the christians the jews they're
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  Speaker 3: all wrong you know the christians believe in jesus as
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  Speaker 3: god that's wrong you know the christians believe that you
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  Speaker 3: know jesus died on the cross that's wrong um and
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  Speaker 3: muhammad pretty much in mecca he starts going around to
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  Speaker 3: the jews and everyone around him and tell him guys
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  Speaker 3: you're wrong i got the new revelation No one believes
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  Speaker 3: this guy. For 12 years, he lives in Mecca and
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  Speaker 3: preaches this message of Islam. No one likes him. No
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  Speaker 3: one believes in his message. In fact, in 12 years
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  Speaker 3: of evangelizing about Islam, he only converts about 10 to
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  Speaker 3: 100 followers. So Jesus in three years, like thousands, tens
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  Speaker 3: of thousands of people follow him. Muhammad in the span
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  Speaker 3: of 12 years converts about 100 people. And that's where,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of verses in the Quran, they're
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  Speaker 3: about peace. So a lot of verses in the Quran,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of Muslims bring it up. They're like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: this verse says, tolerate the unbeliever. love them, be peaceful.
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  Speaker 3: All these verses about peace come in the first 12
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  Speaker 3: years of Muhammad's life where he's peaceful because he doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have a following.
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  Speaker 2: In Mecca, right?
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  Speaker 3: In Mecca. That's what they call the Meccan period. The
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  Speaker 3: Meccan period is the peaceful season of Islam. Then Muhammad,
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  Speaker 3: after 12 years, decided it's not working. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: move to Medina. He migrates to Medina. After he goes
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  Speaker 3: to Medina, that's when the whole message flips. He becomes
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: a political leader. He starts killing people, going into caravans, towns,
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: and cities. Butchering people, tell them convert to Islam or
• 14:19
  Speaker 3: you die. And that's really how Islam spread. Islam did
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: not spread by conversion. They spread by, hey, convert or
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: you're going to die. So Christianity spread through the blood
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: of the martyrs. Islam spread through the blood of its enemies.
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: So that's kind of the different, that's the origin of Islam.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: So the origin of Christianity is we have Christ who
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: died on the cross for us, loved us, died for
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: our sins, for the sake of the world. Islam, their
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: origin is our founder went around killing people. So let's
• 14:44
  Speaker 3: just do the same thing. So that's kind of the origins,
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: if you want, or the foundations of Islam. So when
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: people find, you know, Muslims killing Christians or killing people
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: in Nigeria, that's not radical Islam. That's just normal Islam.
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: That's kind of the faithful Islam. You know, when you
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: see kind of people, people always say, but I have
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: a nice Muslim friend. Right. And they always say, not
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: all Muslims are violent. And it's true. I like to
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: say it this way. Not all Muslims. Yeah, there's many
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: peaceful Muslims. We have very nice Muslims.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Well, even in South Nigeria, the Muslims and the Christians
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: live in peace.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: It's just in the north. And that's the thing. It's true.
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of nice Muslims. I had a lot
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: of nice Muslim friends in school that I grew up with.
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: And the thing is, I like to say it this way.
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: Not all Muslims are violent, but all Islam is violent.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: It's the same as Christianity. Not all Christians are holy,
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: but Christianity is holy. So when you see a Christian
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: in the street, get drunk.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: Not go to church.
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: Not go to church.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Not read the Bible.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Not read the Bible. Sleep with his girlfriend. Cheat on
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: his wife. You're like, that guy's not a Christian. He's
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: not following the Bible.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: It's not an indictment on the crux of the religion.
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: No.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: But it's saying, okay, the crux of this religion is
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: fundamentally peace is humble yourself and you will be elevated.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: The crux of the religion of Islam is kill to
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: conquer to take territory.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And you have to judge both books. So like you
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: can't look at every single Christian and say that's Christianity
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: because you have lukewarm Christians. You have faithful Christians that
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: are living righteous according to the book. And you have
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: to judge Christianity by the book. And you have to
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: judge Islam by the Quran. It's the same story.
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  Speaker 3: So you're judged by the book and the founder. So
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: the book says, so our book, Jesus said, love your enemies. Yes.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Muhammad says, kill your enemies. Yes. Right? Jesus, before he died, said, actually,
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: so Muhammad says, kill the infidel. Jesus said, love your enemies. Muhammad,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: before he died, one of his last words were, may
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Allah curse the Jews and the Christians. Jesus on the
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: cross before he died said, Father, forgive them. For they
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: don't know what they did.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: And I think people need to recognize too, like, these
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: are literal, like, verses in the Quran. Like, kill the Jew,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: kill the Christian is a direct quote.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: This is not, yeah, exactly.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: You're not mincing words.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: No, we're not.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: This is what it is.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're not, by the way, eisegeting a text. Like,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: we're not misinterpreting it.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: This is actually what it says.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Because look at the application of it. that they're doing
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: it today. So this is not a misinterpretation. You have
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: terrorism today because they're interpreting those verses rightly.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: And by the way, these Muslims are very faithful. Like
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: that Muslim in Bond, the two Muslims in Bondi Beach
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: that killed the Jews, they were very faithful Muslims. They
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: were actually obeying the book to the T. And anyone
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: who condemned this guy is not really a Muslim. Muhammad,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: that's what he did. He went around killing people for
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: a living. He was a political leader and, that establish
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: Islam by the sword. That is like one of the signs,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: one of the symbols of Christianity. The symbol of Christianity
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: is a cross. The symbol of Islam is a sword.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: So when you look at the symbols, you're like, okay,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: this is so like, it makes complete sense why a
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: lot of the Muslims like flags, Islamic flags around the
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: world have a sword. That's what their prophet did. Our
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: Christ carried a cross. Their founder carried a sword. Our founder,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, carried a cross on his back. In fact,
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: he touched a leper, healed the sick, raised the dead.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Muhammad literally killed the living. Like Jesus raised the dead.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Muhammad killed the living. It's the comparison.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Jesus said he who lives by the sword.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Would die by the sword.
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  Speaker 2: And was pierced by a sword.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: He was pierced literally.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Did not do the piercing.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: He was pierced. No, no.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: And many people don't know how the revelation came to Muhammad.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Like a lot of people don't know that when Muhammad
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: received the revelation from God, and had this encounter with
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: this angel, he himself stated afterwards that he felt like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: jumping off a mountain and killing himself. So he was suicidal.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Which is classic demonic activity.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: When God encounters us as Christians, we feel at peace.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: How do we even judge whether it's the enemy speaking
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: to us versus it's God? It's the sense of peace
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we feel when God speaks to us. So that should
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: tell you as a Christian that if somebody receives a
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: revelation from God that leaves them feeling Possessed by a demon,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: which is actually what he said. He said, I might
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: be possessed by a demon. It leaves him feeling suicidal.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Muhammad said that. Leaves him feeling suicidal.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, that's in the Quran?
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he literally was, he had multiple suicide attempts off
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: a mountain.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Because of this encounter with the angel Gabriel.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: After seeing the angel Gabriel and told him apparently the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: new revelation of Islam, he literally is hiding. He's hiding.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: He thinks it's a demon. And his wife, Khadija, who
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: was older than him, this older rich widow who funded
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: him because he was a poor guy. He didn't have
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: money to do what he wanted to do. She's the
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: one that convinces him, actually, you saw an angel. When
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: we see an angel in the Bible visit Mary or
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: visit anybody, he says, do not be afraid. You don't
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: go shaking after.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Well, even on this podcast, we've had a lot of
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: people that have come from the new age. We've had
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that have come from... I don't know,
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: worshiping demons. The former head of the church, Satan, was
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: on the podcast. We've had so many people that have been.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: in that dark place and what you just described that
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: the revelation muhammad got i'm like that is so in
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: line with every single encounter that i've heard demonic encounter
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: where they present themselves in the new age yeah you
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: know psychics they're seeing these angelic beings and And then
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: when they come to know Jesus and they say, reveal
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: yourself in the name of Jesus, they've got blood coming
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: out of their eyes. But they were masquerading as angels
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: of light.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: Exactly. And how do you know Islam is demonic? Islam
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: loves death. Islam loves death. It hinges on killing infidels. Infidels,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: by the way, for anyone who doesn't know, infidels is
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: pretty much anyone who's not a Muslim. You're an infidel. Infidels, like,
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: you are the dirt of the earth. You are disgusting,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: according to the Quran. In fact, Muhammad, when he speaks
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: about Christians or Jews, were described as apes and pigs.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: So Hitler hated the Jews. So he put propaganda up
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: against the wall. And all over, he made the Jews
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: look like rats. So he changed the psychology of the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: nation to view the Jews as rats. So when they
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: gassed the Jews or killed the Jews, they didn't feel
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: like they were killing a human. They were killing a rat.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: So Muhammad, that's exactly what he did. And I'm sure
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Hitler got his idea from Muhammad. Muhammad doesn't call us rats.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: He calls us apes and pigs. And what's an ape
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: and a pig? You're not worthy of anything. It's not
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Imago Dei, you know, made in the image of God.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: It's Imago Porse, made in the image of a pig.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: And that's why when you see on October 7th, when
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Hamas killed, butchered, raped, mutilated, you know, gills legs off
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: and put babies in ovens.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: And as they did that, they shouted Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: by the way, means our God is greater. My God
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: is greater. So they're killing people on October 7th while
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: shouting Allahu Akbar. They're raping women while shouting Allahu Akbar.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: They're putting babies in oven while shouting Allahu Akbar. They're stabbing,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: beheading Christians, 21 Christians, Coptic Christians. And you know, when
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: they lined them up on the beach and they put
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: the orange suits on, they beheaded them. What did they say?
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Allahu Akbar.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Why?
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: That's what Allah wants them to do. He wants them
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: to kill the infidels. So this is how you know
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: it's demonic. The Bible, John 10 says the thief comes
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to kill, steal, and destroy. That's what Islam does. Kill, steal,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: and destroy. It's a parallel of hell. It's a parallel
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: of demons. It's a parallel of evil.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: And you guys are Australian, but you're coming to America.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: And you were telling me something interesting earlier that America
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: really is the last frontier. And it is moving the
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: culture globally. What is your concern for America?
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man. America is slowly getting Islamized. America is slowly
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: getting Islamized. And America is messing around with Islam, and
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: they think Islam is here to coexist and just live
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: among the Christians and the Jews and the Hindus and
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the atheists. Islam does not coexist with anybody. There's a
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: teaching in Islam. It's called Dahr al-Harb or Dahr al-Salam.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: The meaning of that is house of war. or house
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: of peace. So the way Islam views nations is they
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: either view it as in two ways, there's two categories.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: It's a house of war or a house of peace.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: It can only be a house of peace once it's Muslim.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: But unless it's Muslim, it's called, which means the house
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: of war. So what American Islam is saying is when
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: a real Muslim comes to America, They don't view this
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: country as a blessed nation. They view this country as
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: a house of war. And until it becomes Muslim, it
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: is war for us. It is warfare. And that's why
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: the Islamization of America, you see the mayor of New
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: York City, Zohar Mamdani, is a Muslim. The mayor of
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Debo Michigan, a Muslim. The mayor of St. Louis Park,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: a Muslim. The mayor of Canada or Minneapolis, a Muslim.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: And this is what you call the Islamization of the West.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Islam knows we cannot conquer America by the sword. They can't.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: For 1400 years, Islam has conquered countries by the sword. Egypt,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: my country, was Christian. They killed them by the sword.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: It became Muslim overnight. Yemen was Christian. It became Muslim overnight.
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: Sudan was Christian. It became Muslim overnight. Morocco was Christian
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and became Muslim overnight. How? The sword. Islam looked at
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: America and they thought, we can't conquer this country. Their
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: nuclear weapons are stronger than ours. Their army is stronger
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: than ours. Their White House, their Pentagon. There is no
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: way Muslims will be able to conquer America by the sword.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: So they changed their strategy. Let's go bit by bit.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Let's start with immigration. Let's come in bit by bit.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: Let's slowly introduce halal food. You see halal food everywhere.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: That's Islamizing a country. You slowly see hijabs everywhere. That's
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: phase one. Then they go to phase two. Phase two,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: they begin to pray in the streets like New York City.
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: This is the Islamization of America.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Is this written down?
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Is this like an actual plan? No, this is– I
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: kind of want to break it up. The Muslim Brotherhood
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: have– It's patterns. Yeah, it's patterns, how they conquer Europe. Remember,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Europe was the hub of Christianity. Right. europe had revivals
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: john wesley yeah it's right it's fallen like it is
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: one of the most common baby names actually the most
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: common baby name now in london is muhammad yeah so
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: it's being islamized and how did they start the islamizing
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: of america phase one you come as peaceful you're the
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: victim you come as immigrants i need help i need
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: welfare you come in the country you introduce halal food
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the woman wear hijabs and it's like you know what
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: let's just coexist then we go to phase two Phase
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: two is like– phase two is kind of a little
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: bit more aggressive and public. Now they're gathering in larger
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: groups like thousands, like New York City. Thousands of Muslims
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: are gathering, praying in the street. They're now getting in
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: political spheres like Zohra Mamdani. They're becoming a little bit
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: more public.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it at LA? LAX airport? Where one of the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: shops was just playing the Quran out loud so that
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you could hear as you're walking by. That'd be stage two.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: That's kind of stage two. Islamizing. Let's slowly do it.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: New York City have, you know, food trucks playing the
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Quran out loud bit by bit. Then you go to
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: phase three. Phase three is where the UK is at
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: right now. Phase three, they get very aggressive. They begin
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: to get violent. Terrorist attacks increase. So Sydney would be
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: going into phase three right now. Knife attacks increase. The
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: knife attacks in the UK is horrendous. Rape cases increase.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: The UK, Europe has had 200,000 rape cases in the
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: last 200 years. Sorry, in the last 20 years. 200,000
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: rape cases in the last 20 years by Pakistani Muslims.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: So that's phase three. Rape cases increase, terrorist attacks increase.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And then you go to phase four. Phase four is
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: now kind of where No one is there yet, except
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: obviously Afghanistan and all the Muslim countries. Now Christians are
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: called the infidels. Churches are burnt. Pastors are killed. Women
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: are raped. Children become Muslims. So my warning to America
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: is if you don't wake up, you're going to be Islamized.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And America has this pride. Americans can sometimes be proudful.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: You know, my country. And it's good to be proud
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: of your country. But don't let it turn into arrogance
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: in a sense where you become ignorant to the fact
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: that Islam is a religion. is a conquering religion. Islam
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: conquers countries for a living. And for 1400 years, they've
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: conquered countries. So, Muhammad, after he died, within 100 years
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: of his death, Islam conquered conquered 50 to 60 percent
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: of the christian world wow so yeah if you if
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: america thinks you know islam is not going to conquer
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: me that's just arrogance um egypt thought that and they
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: were conquered yemen thought that they were conquered morocco thought
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: that and they were conquered the uk thought that and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: they're being conquered yeah so american needs to really wake
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: up or you're not going to be.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Christian anymore i do think though as one as well
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: one thing i hear a lot of americans say and
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: it's one thing i love about americans is it's like
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: you guys value freedom so much and i hear a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: lot of americans say but you know, freedom of religion.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: We have to give them freedom to believe what they
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: want and of course that's true. Yeah. But there has
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: to be boundaries and a line because you can't give
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: freedom of religion to a religion that does not believe
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in freedom of religion. This is the problem is that
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Islam doesn't believe in freedom of religion. They don't believe
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: in the separation of mosque and state. They don't believe
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that You can be a Muslim, but then decide, oh, actually,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I don't believe in this God. I want to leave. No, well,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you're going to be killed because you're an apostate now.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You're committing apostasy. And so this is what I think
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I love about America, but I can see how Islam
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: is going to, they're going to violate. It's this beautiful,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: we want to give freedom of religion and there has
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to be wisdom and discernment to the, giving it to
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the people who want to conquer your religion. Like that's
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: their mandate. Our great commission is to go into all
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the world preach the gospel, baptize. That's our mandate as Christians.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Their mandate is to go and conquer the world and
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: make everybody be Muslim by force. Because people say, doesn't
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Islam mean peace? Like that's what Islam means. It means peace.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: It means peace by submission. So yes, the goal for
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the Muslim is peace, meaning Allah is worshipped by everyone.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But the means to get that peace, according to them,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: is submission. You must submit. or you die.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So that's it. That's, that's a deceiving thing about the
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: word Islam. Yeah. They say Islam means peace. No, it doesn't.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Salaam means peace. So Islam, it's kind of two words. Salaam,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Salaam is peace. But when you put the I in
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: front of it, Islam, it's peace through submission. So there's
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: only peace if you submit to my religion. So if
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: you don't become a Christian, there's no peace, brother. If
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: you don't, if you don't convert to Islam, there's no peace. Um,
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: it's sword, submit, pay tax, or, um, Submit to Islam,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: pay tax, or we're going to kill you. That's kind
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: of Islam for you. You know what I mean?
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Dang.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I find the reason this is happening is because the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: reason Islam is able to conquer a nation like the UK,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: like Australia and America, if they don't wake up, is
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: because the Christians have been saying for so long, because
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of secularism, we should just be quiet about our faith.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: We'll be quiet about our beliefs.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: We shouldn't get involved.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: In politics. Christians shouldn't get involved in politics because politics
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: is the realm of the devil. I'm like, yeah, only
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: if you give it to him. Like Christians are called
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: to politics. Some Christians are called, that's their calling. That's
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: their mandate. When you look throughout the Bible, so many
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of the heroes of faith were either politicians themselves, or
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: they were going up to politicians and telling them, repent.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like John the Baptist going up, losing his head for that. Um,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Daniel going up to the King, they were either politicians
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: or advising politicians because God is supposed to reign in
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: a nation. And according to Romans 13, the government is
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: supposed to be a servant of God. That's what the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: role of government is to be a servant of God
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: and to punish the wrongdoing wrongdoer. So the point of
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: government is to administer justice in order to keep God's
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: moral standard of a nation. And so when the government
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: is no longer doing that and, and, Getting rid of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: God's standard of morality, the Christians are supposed to rise
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: up and say, actually, no. So, for example, in the West,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: what's happening is the government is taking upon God's role,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: which is, for example, defining the value of human life.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Only God gets to do that. That is not the
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: job of Caesar to define the value of human life.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Their job is to punish anyone who comes against the
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: value of human life and murders. They're supposed to punish that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But now Caesar is saying, well, it's actually our job.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Caesar is redefining marriage. And what we're seeing now is
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: we've got a lot of secularists who are telling us
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: as Christians, we don't want to hear what the Bible
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: says about abortion. We don't want to hear what the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Bible says about marriage. Keep your little book to yourself.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Here's the problem, though. If you don't have the Bible
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: as the standard of morality, as the basis of a nation,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: there has to be a standard. There has to be
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: somebody saying, here is the standard of morality to govern
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: the nation. And if it's not Christianity, it will be Islam.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: What else is it going to be? It can be atheism.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: If you want North Korea, if you want China, if
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of world you want to live in,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: you want to live in the Soviet Union, then you
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: can have an atheist worldview, which says that you have
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: no inherent value. You're just a clump of cells. You're
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just a cosmic accident. And in an atheist worldview, people
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: end up being abused because we have no inherent value.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: So we can have atheism if we want. We can
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: have Islam where we said, There is no separation of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: mosque and state. You will be forced to bow down. Women,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, are completely oppressed under Islam. You can
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: go Islam or you can rise up and say, as
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: we should, Christianity should be the foundation of the nation.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: If it's not Christianity, I don't want to live in
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that nation. I do believe that the Bible is the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: greatest standard for morality. I 100% believe that. Because, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: they try to use this slur against us as though
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: it's some sort of criticism. You know, you're a Christian nationalist.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I do believe The Bible is the greatest basis of
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: morality for a nation. I wholeheartedly believe that.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: And if we don't say that, Islam will take over.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why it's taken over in the UK, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, if you guys saw Zohra Mamdani
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  Speaker 3: just got sworn in as mayor of New York City
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: and he swore on the Quran. He didn't swear in
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: the Bible. He swore in the Quran. What's interesting about
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: this is he swore on the Quran. to protect and
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: build New York, to protect the people of New York,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: when that book that he got sworn on, the book,
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the Quran, that book that he swore on, commands him
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: to hate the people of New York. So he's sworn
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: on the Quran, saying, I'm gonna build New York, I'm
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: gonna take care of them, I'm gonna be... a great
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: mayor of the people of New York, acting like he
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: loves the people of New York. That book you just
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: swore on commands you to kill the people of New York.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Because the people of New York, there's Jews living there,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: there's Christians living there, there's gays living there, and there's
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: atheists living there. And this is what the trans community
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and the LGBTQ need to understand. When the trans say,
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: you know, trans for Mamdani or gays for Mamdani, or,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: you know, trans for Palestine, you are, gays for Gaza,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: you are literally voting in your own death. Like, this
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: is what they need to understand. Homosexuals, according to the Quran,
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: homosexuals are thrown off buildings in Muslim countries. Transgenders are
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: stoned to death in Muslim countries. So when people say,
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: you know, I want a Muslim mayor, Zohra Mamdani, I
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: love this guy. I'm like, really? You love that guy?
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: If that guy is a true Muslim, he should hate you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: If that guy's a true Muslim, he shouldn't care about you.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: And this is what people say. They say, but there's
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: some nice Muslims. There's a lot of kind Muslims. There's
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: a lot of peaceful Muslims. Zohra Mamdani's a nice guy.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And this is where really the danger of this dangerous
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: teaching in Islam, they call takiyah. I'm not sure if
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: you recognize that word or if you've heard about that word.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: There's a dangerous teaching in Islam called takiyah. Takiyah is
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: a teaching in Islam where a Muslim is allowed to
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: lie to a non-Muslim. for the sake of spreading Islam.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: So the Muslims are not allowed to lie to Muslims,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: but you're allowed to lie to non-Muslims. If you feel
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: like the mission of Islam is under danger, if you
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: feel like you're in danger or the mission of Allah
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: and Islam is in danger, you're allowed to lie. So
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: in Spain, when Islam was conquering Spain, there was a
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: time in history where the Christians were the majority. And
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: the Christians kind of were trying to take payback against
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: the Muslims. So they were being a bit harsh in
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: that time. So there was half a million Muslims living
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: in that country. And half a million Muslims decided, there's
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: no way we're going to conquer Spain again. There's no
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: way we're going to conquer Spain unless we lie. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: what they did overnight, 500,000 Muslims, half a million Muslims
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: converted to Christianity, got baptized, and took communion in the church,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: lying to the pastors and to the country that we're
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: now Christians. Why did they do that? Because they know
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: if we don't lie, Islam can't spread. So what they
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: do is they lie until they have the power. So
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Zohar al-Mumdani is either not a Muslim, like he's a
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: local Muslim and he's not really practicing Islam, or he's
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: practicing taqiyya. Because when he says, I love the Jews,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: really love the Jews? Because according to your Quran, you
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: should hate the Jews. Really love the Christians? Because according
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to the Quran, you should kill the Christians. You love
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the trans and the gays? Really? You should kill those guys. So,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I really hope Zohra Mamdani is just a local Muslim,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: but he might be practicing taqiyya.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Why is it that the LGBTQ community has adopted Islam?
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: So the thing is, you know, that famous quote, the
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: enemy of my enemy is my friend. So the enemy
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: of my enemy is my friend. I might unite with
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: an enemy in order to destroy another enemy. So the
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: common factor, and this is unholy lines between the left
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: and Islam, is both of them hate Christ. Both of
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: them hate Christianity. Both of them hate the Bible. Both
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: of them hate holiness. Both of them hate anything that's
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: in the Bible. So the Islamists and the leftists are combining,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: let's take Christ out of culture. Let's take the Bible
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: out of schools. And that's what they don't understand. This
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: is what the leftists don't understand, is once the Islamists
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: take away Christianity, they're coming for the leftists. And this
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: is the way we say it. The Muslims' holy day
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: is Friday. So they pray on Friday. That's their holy day.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: the jews holy day is saturday that's their sabbath the
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: christians holy day is sunday that's our church the day
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: jesus was resurrected the atheist holy day or the leftist
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: holy day is monday that's when they build their empire
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: and they make money and the way you say it
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: kind of this is a sequence for the muslims the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: people of friday the muslims kill the people of saturday
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: the jews once they kill the people of saturday the
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: jews who's next the people of sunday the christians And
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: once the people of Friday kill the people of Sunday,
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: the Christians, who's next? Once the Jews and the Christians
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: are out of the way, here comes the people of Monday.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: That's the atheists, the trans, and anybody who's not a
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Jew or a Christian. So this is what the leftists
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: need to understand. The Muslims are only combining with the
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: leftists because the people of Saturday and Sunday, the Christians
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: and the Jews, are in their way. Once we get
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: out of the way, you're next. Once we get out
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: of the way, the gays are going to get killed.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: The trans are going to get killed and the feminists
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: are going to get killed. So we're really the only people,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: the Jews and the Christians are the only people standing
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: in the way of the Muslims going after the gays
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: and the trans and the feminists.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And it's a strategy. You can find videos of imams
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: saying the greatest thing for them is having a progressive
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: nation because they know when the progressives are saying, you know,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: LGBTQ promoting this movement, So that we're basically, we're not,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: they're not able to multiply the LGBT Adam, Adam and
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Steve can't have babies. So they're thriving off the fact
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that our, our replacement rate is so low because we're
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: not having babies as a nation because of the LGBTQ community.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Then we have abortions. So we have a lot of
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: women that are killing their own babies in the womb
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: because of, you know, empowerment and feminism. And I'm an
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: entrepreneur and I'm going to live my own life and
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: do my own thing. And a baby is a burden.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: So in the West, in a progressive West, we see
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: babies not as a gift from the Lord, as Psalm
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: 127 says, but we see them as a burden, as
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a hindrance. They hold us back from our dreams and ambitions.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And so we're not having babies. We have the LGBTQ
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: is also not having babies. They can't multiply. Then we
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: have trans ideology that is literally castrating young men. So
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it's basically we're in a state of Babylon with progressive ideologies.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: We're in a state of Babylon. And that Islam loves
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that because that is their opportunity to overtake Christianity. They
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: know that they have the fastest growing religion, not because
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: of conversion, but because of procreation. They know that. They
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: know that in a progressive world that does not value family,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that does not value. And the other thing that, you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk used to talk about this a lot. He said,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the reason the enemy is after families is because when
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: a man has a family he's fighting for, he's going
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to stand up against every pit of hell that the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: enemy tries to throw at him. And so that's why
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: the enemy comes against families. So that's why Islam is rejoicing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: So Islam, by the way, is the fastest. growing religion
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: right now. They are the fastest growing religion. And this
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: should sound alarm bells in the whole Christian world. Because
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: stop with your spiritual stuff. I believe in the spiritual stuff.
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: But we got to get to the facts. Why is
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: Christianity not the fastest growing religion? We have the Holy
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Spirit on our side. We can have revival. We got babies.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways. And there's a lot of
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: reasons why Islam is the fastest growing religion. Number one,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: they're killing our Christians. You went to Nigeria. They're killing
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: our Christians. That's a fact. Number two, they got apostasy laws.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So there's a lot of Muslims... Converted Christianity, but they
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: don't write it on the census because if they do,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: they're going to get killed by their family of their own.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: But the main issue is the babies one. The Muslims
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: are multiplying. They are having lots of babies.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: They laugh at the fact that women abort their babies.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: They're like, you're crazy. Because they understand that how do
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: you grow Islam? It's through babies. They are laughing at
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the Western women.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: What's becoming so clear to me right now hearing you
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: guys talk is the death cult has aligned. The death
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: cult of LGBTQ. You cannot procreate. Abortion. The leftist love abortion.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: LGBTQ trans where you're castrating young men and women. And
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Islam by the sword. Those four is the death cult now.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: And why are they opposing Western ideals that are founded
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: on Christianity? Because Christianity is about life.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: And so really it says in the last days the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: light's going to get light and the dark's going to
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: get really dark. And right now we're seeing the wheat
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: separate from the tares right now. And we're seeing a
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: death cult go after what really is a religion of
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: peace and life in Jesus. I've come to give life
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: and life to the poor. So right now there is
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a cosmic battle going on. I'm sure the demons look
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: very similar among those four groups.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: 100%. Well, they all have one mission. There's no, by
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: the way, like some half evil and a lot of evil.
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: There's darkness and light. Christianity and Christ. the light and
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: every other category falls in darkness Islam leftism transgenderism feminism
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: all that stuff and they all hate Christianity they just
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: want to destroy Christ yeah they're all standing in the
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: crowd shouting crucify him crucify him like that that's really
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: what they're all shouting the feminist movement is standing in
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: the crowd the Jezebel spirit is standing in the crowd
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: the Islamist spirit is standing the crowd yeah the Planned
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Parenthood spirit is standing the crowd Every ideology is standing
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: in that crowd, and Christianity is standing there in front
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: of the judgment seat, and they're all shouting, crucify him.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: That's really what they're doing. Kill Christ. Kill Christianity. Take
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: down the churches. Remove the Bible. Let's get rid of Christ.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: And the good news is Christ doesn't lose. That's the
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: good news. The good news is Jesus didn't send a grave.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: He rose from the dead. We're good. At the end,
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: every knee will bow and every tongue will confess. Muhammad
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: will bow. Planned Parenthood founder. What's her name?
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Margaret Sanger.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Margaret Sanger is going to bow before the throne of
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Christ and get sent to hell, weeping and gnashing of teeth.
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: Every religion, every false prophet, every demonic movement is going
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: to bow at the foot of Christ. The problem is
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: now is do we wait for that victory or do
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: we fight for that victory? We can't wait. This is
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: the problem with a lot of Christians. Jesus will come back.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: We'll wait.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: No, you don't wait. If Christ didn't want you to
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: do something on earth, he would have taken you to
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: heaven now. We got a lot of work to do.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: We got a church to build. We got families to build.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: We got children to raise. We got a God to serve.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: And we got a gospel to preach.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Many of you guys know I just got back from
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: Nigeria where I was visiting with the persecuted church in
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: the north. People who had fled their homes, who had
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: been burned, who had been shot in the face, who
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: had been displaced. And I saw things that have.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Changed me forever.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I witnessed.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: faith, a Christianity that I had never seen before. And
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: my faith was rocked. And so what I did is
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: I put together a documentary and we're hosting the international
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: night of prayer for the persecuted church this February 25th.
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: My ask of you guys is this, there's a link
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: in the description or in the show notes. I would
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: ask you, would you gather your people, whether it's your spouse,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: your small group, your friends, your church for this night
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: on February 25th, where we're going to come together.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: We're going to pray.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: We're what is this faith that we're seeing here? And
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: how can we implement this in our own lives? So
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: would you watch, pray, gather, and discuss this February 25th?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: It would mean a lot for me. If you could
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: click that link, we will send you everything you need
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: to know. We'll send you instructions. We'll send you PDF guides.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: We'll send you the link to the video. It would
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: mean so, so much for me, guys, if you could
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: join us in prayer this February 25th.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is we've gotten really comfortable. Because
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: what you were sharing earlier, the threats that you're receiving,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: talk a little bit about that because you guys are
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: charging this right now and it doesn't come without a cost.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: No. Yeah. Tell them what happened a few weeks ago.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, just the day after the Bondi attacks, me
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: and Martin just at the shops, you know, a nice
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: shopping center. And then, you know, like five, probably 20
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: year old Muslim young men are following us through the
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: shopping center, intimidating us, walking. They're following us through three
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: flights of stairs, making sure they know that they're watching us.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: We get, Messages all the time, death threats all of
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: the time. You know, we were just at the doctor's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: having our checkups, scans, all of that. Supposed to be
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: a nice, you know, moment where having our pregnancy checkups and,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you know, there's a Muslim there that recognizes Martin from
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: social media, gets on the phone, starts making all these
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: threats on his phone to intimidate us. And really, we're just,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: they're trying to intimidate us into silence. But this is
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: why you can't intimidate a Christian into silence is because
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: God is the author of my life and he decides
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: how long I live. And no human being will ever
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: stop us from speaking the truth of God's word because
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, even death itself does
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: not make us afraid because you can't kill a Christian.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: We just change locations. Charlie Kirk, they didn't kill him.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: He's just now in the presence of God in heaven.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: And so that's why as Christians, we cannot fear. And
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: that is why Christianity... has always multiplied because of persecution.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I think that you've probably seen this in the States.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: We have definitely seen revival ever since the death of
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Our church that weekend doubled in attendance and
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: it's been full ever since. And I was thinking about this.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Why is it that persecution always leads to revival? That Tertullian,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: how he said, the blood of the martyrs is the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: seed of the church.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Why does persecution lead to revival? And I believe it's
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: because I don't know about you, but on that day,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: the day after Charlie Kirk, I woke up with one
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: question on my mind. And that question was, am I
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: willing to die for this? I just saw somebody, I
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: saw a video of someone die for the truth that
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: they spoke, die for the sake of God. And so
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: I woke up with one question, am I willing to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: die for this? And that is why I believe persecution
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: leads to revival because anybody who's sitting on the fence,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: who has been lukewarm in their faith, who's been too
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: comfortable in their Christianity, they're out.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: If my life is on the line, I'm out of Christianity.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not willing to go all the way. If I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: wasn't even willing to live for God, I'm not going
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: to be willing to die for God. And so what
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: we're seeing now is no matter what kind of persecution
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: comes our way, no matter what threats we get, I
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: believe on a macro scale, we will see Christianity flourish
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: more and more. We will multiply more and more because
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: we will wake up and remember what we always should
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: have remembered as Christians is that we should never fear
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: anything for the sake of speaking truth. You can unfollow me.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: You can hate me. You can send me mean comments.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Nothing is going to stop me from preaching the truth
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: because I know whose I am and I know where
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Amen. Amen. Yeah.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: We were just in Nigeria, like you alluded to, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: we were able to connect with Ezekiel Dachamo. They call
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: the voice of Nigeria's Nigeria's pastor. He's one of the
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: only ones speaking up because they kill him. If you
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: speak up as a pastor in Nigeria and speak out
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: against the violence, they will kill you. But he's gotten
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: too big now. And so you can't kill him because
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: then he becomes an international martyr. And so the government
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: has literally attached armed security to him because they don't
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: want him to die. But guess what happened? I get
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: back from the trip. I connected with Ezekiel. He came
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. We did a podcast
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: in an undisclosed location. Snuck him in to the Capitol
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: in Abuja, and we did a podcast in the middle
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: of the night. And I get home, and I'm messaging
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: with him, and I say, hey, send me all your clips.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to edit your clips. I'm going to send
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: them to your son. We're going to get this news
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: out there. The next day, I get all these missed
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: calls from him, and I'm like, uh-oh, something just happened.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: So I got on the phone with him. They banned
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: him off Facebook. The next day, we start an Instagram
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: account for him. Start posting. I post on my story. Hey,
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: go follow Ezekiel Dachamo. They just banned him off Facebook.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: The next day, they ban him off Instagram.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: That's crazy.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: So the question becomes, why don't they just kill him?
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: Because that's not as powerful as silencing him. If you
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: kill him, he becomes a martyr.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: If you silence him, no one talks about him.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: And so that, to me, clued me in. When they
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: killed Charlie Kirk, the next day, what I realized is
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: my entire ministry shifted. What I had been seeing as
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: kind of like my B ministry, which was social media,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: became my A ministry.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: And I was like, my voice right now is more
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: valuable than these big projects that I have. There needs
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: to be more people that are standing up and using
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: their voice. And I think right now the tactic of Islam,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: the tactic of the death cult in its entirety, that
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: four-headed death cult that you alluded to, their tactic is
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: to silence you like they did Charlie Kirk.
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: But guess what?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: They don't understand what Tertullian understood, that the blood of
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: the martyrs is the seat of the church. They don't
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: understand that. But some people do understand it.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: And those are the people that are silencing Ezekiel. They
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: don't want to kill him. In fact, let's attach armed
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: security to you. Let's make sure nobody can kill you,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: even though there's a bounty on your head from the
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: terrorist but what we will do is we're going to
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: try to steal your voice yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: And the whole goal is to put fear in you
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: and this is a lot of people it's it's a
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: lot of christians in america the problem with you is
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: the problem with america is a lot of christians are
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: silent out of fear i don't want to lose followers
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: i don't want to lose my job i don't want
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: to I don't want to get hurt. I don't want
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: to lose my friends or family. And the spirit of
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: fear really paralyzes you. Like they think the American pulpit,
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: a lot of preachers think they're free, but they're not.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: They're paralyzed. I think in the spirit realm, if you
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: were to look at a lot of American pastors, you
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: would see them paralyzed. They're in a wheelchair. They think
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: they're free. They're like, yeah, I got a church. I
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: got a mega church. I got a pulpit. I got
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: the money. I got the car. I got the green room.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: But no, man, you're paralyzed. And how do you know
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: you're paralyzed? You wanted to speak about something and the
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Holy Spirit told you to speak about something, but you
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: couldn't do it. God told you to speak about abortion,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: but you couldn't do it. God told you to speak
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: about gay marriage, but you couldn't do it. You were scared.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: And really the deep issue here is The problem is
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: not fear. It's who do you fear? Everybody fears someone.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: The reason we preach, Millie and I preach, is not
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: because we're some heroic heroes that don't have fear in us.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: We have fear. Of course we have fear. But the
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: difference is, and this is the thing, God says, do
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: not fear man who can kill your body, but rather
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: fear God who can throw both body and soul into hell.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: So the goal is not to stop fearing. The goal
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: is to fear someone higher. The goal is to not
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: stop being scared for your life. It's to fear someone
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: who's able to chuck both body and soul into hell.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: So when I preach on the pulpit or when I'm
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: walking around. I'm like, I could get scared of that
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: guy in the crowd that doesn't like me and doesn't
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: agree with my sermon, or I could fear God. The
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: moment I touch that pulpit, the fear of God falls
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: onto me. Every word I say, God will judge me
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: double the harshness. Every word I say, if I lead
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: these people astray, their blood will be on my hands.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: If I don't sound the alarm bells, their blood will
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: be on my hands. If I don't tell people, don't
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: kill your babies, their blood will be on my hands.
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: As long as I speak. And the thing is, the
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: outcome is not in my hands. People might still abort
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: their babies. They still might... you know, go through the
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: transgender surgery. They might still allow Islam. My job is
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: not the victory. My job is to wash my hands. Lord,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: I've done my part. Now you do the conviction.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of Americans don't know what
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: season it is. It is the season of John the Baptist,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: which means what? You might be beheaded. The problem with David,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: when he was looking at Bathsheba, Notice what it says
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: before that. Before he went and slept with her, it says,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: in the springtime when kings go to war, David was
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: on his couch looking at a naked woman. And right now,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: it's war season.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: That's it. You're right.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: In the spirit. And you have too many Davids that
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: are sitting on their couch looking at a naked woman
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: instead of going to war. How do we war? Our
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: battle is not against flesh and blood, but we pull
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: down strongholds with the power of the Holy Spirit through
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: our prayers. Through our fasting and with our voice. 100%.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: And the death cult is trying to silence the Christians
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: right now. So what's the call? What's the call from
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk? And then what's the call from Jesus in
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: the spirit of Elijah, in the spirit of John the Baptist,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: in the spirit of the warrior David that needs to
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: go out through America and out through the earth? It's
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: to not be silent.
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: And right now, like you nailed it, there are so
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: many pastors that are in a wheelchair not even knowing
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: they're paralyzed.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And how revival is going to happen, it's going to
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: happen through the blood of the martyrs.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: And we just saw one in America.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: But there's revival breaking out in Pakistan. There's revival breaking
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: out in China. There's revival breaking out in Nigeria. And why?
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Because there are people like Ezekiel Dachimo who are not
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: afraid to be silent even though there's a bounty on
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: his head from the terrorists.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And we've really made a decision. God, let your
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: will be done. Let your will be done. I'm not here.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not here. I don't decide what happens in my life.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: I live every day as if God would take me tonight. Yeah.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: If God is going to take me tonight, let's go.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: If God... Live every... And I encourage every listener. Live
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: as though the Lord is returning tonight. Live as though
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: it's your last day to live. What would you do?
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: What has God been putting on your heart to warn
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: your friends about? I remember someone last week stopped Millie
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: at the pool. What did that lady say to you?
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she was so afraid of having children. She'd grown
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: up with that kind of feminist idea that children are
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: going to ruin her life. She was afraid. I don't
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: know if she was considering abortion or what because she'd
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: already fallen pregnant, but then she'd seen just a video,
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: just one singular video of mine, just about how children
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: are a gift from the Lord. They're like arrows in
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: the hands of a warrior. And the point I made
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: is that I realized the problem is never the arrows.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: The problem is never the children. Children are always a gift.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: They're never a burden. The problem is in whose hands
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the arrows lie in. So if you see yourself as
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: a warrior here to advance the kingdom of heaven, then
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: children become a blessing. But if you see yourself as
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not a warrior, I'm not here to advance anything.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I'm just living for myself, my own pleasure. and my
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: own comfort, that's when children become a burden to you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And she'd just seen that.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you were talking earlier, your, your flip of submission
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: when we were talking earlier, like, because you are like,
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: we've alluded to, you are a firecracker. You're getting after it.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And you guys like as a couple are charging the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: death cult, like you are literally reclaiming what the enemy
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: has stolen.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: But your lane seems to be more feminism, womanhood, submission, abortion,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Where did that fire come from?
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: It's funny. Like whenever I go to women's conferences, I
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: get invited to speak to a room full of women.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, God, what should I speak about? You know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: I've got all of these women in front of me.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, okay, what are the two biggest demons attacking
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: the women and the body of Christ right now for
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: the women? It's feminism and it's abortion. And like, you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: you don't go to many women's conferences and hear people
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: talk about abortion. and i know people like when i
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: start speaking about it it's like i feel this pushback
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: they're like why are you talking to me about this.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Flourish baby flourish.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah well because like you know like people have this
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: idea of women's conferences that the only thing women go
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: through struggle with and need to hear about is shame
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: i'm like well i think there are some other issues
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: in the body of christ that we should address right
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: now and it's like if i'm in a room full
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: of women right now what else am i going to
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: speak about that we kill 73 million babies every single
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: year and so yeah and so I mean, for me personally,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: it was probably seven years ago. I was just in
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: my room encountering God, you know, just on my knees
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: seeking him, praying. And I just felt how grieved the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Holy Spirit was over the bloodshed of these innocent babies.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that I came to on my own.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I tell people, sometimes encounters with God
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: leave you feeling uplifted and whatever. Sometimes these encounters with
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: God leave you feeling grieved, leave you with a righteous
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: indignation where it's like, I cannot do anything now, but
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: speak about this. Otherwise his hand will be heavy on me.
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: His word is like a fire shut up in my
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: bones and I will be weary if I don't talk
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: about it. It was like that for me where eight
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: years ago, I just felt how grieved the Holy spirit
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: was about this topic, specifically abortion. And so it was,
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: I had two options either. And I knew that if I,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: when I speak about this, I decided, all right, I'm
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: going to post about this tomorrow. And I knew overnight
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that I would lose everybody in my world. I made
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: this one post and like my entire church, all the
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: church family, like just completely turned. My pastors, like the
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: people that, you know, I'd looked up to all my
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: life was like, how dare you speak about this? About abortion.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: You're being hateful.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: And the whole post was just, you know, just saying
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: that the enemy seeks to steal, kill and destroy. But
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Jesus came that we might have life. It's so clear
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: that God is, Jesus is pro-life. It's so clear. But
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I had a decision to make. Either I can keep
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: on to my old friends, make sure everybody loves me
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: and is happy with me, or, but at the same time,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: feel weary in my soul. Know that I am disobeying
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the call of God in my life. Know that he
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: is grieved and I'm just acting like I don't care
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: about it. Or I can speak about it, lose all
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: my friends, but please my father. And I made that decision.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I have to please my father above man. And so, yeah.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Bear in mind, Millie wasn't always like this fireball. Millie
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: was very quiet.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Very, very quiet in school.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: People, yeah. Like anybody, whenever I share my story, if
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: social anxiety was a person, I was that growing up.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: It's wild.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Even the thought of speaking in front of a crowd,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I wasn't even there yet. For me, just speaking to
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: somebody one-on-one after church. I used to hide in the
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: restrooms after church, terrified to even have a conversation with
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: people because I was just terrified of speaking. And then
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: God's like, hey, yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: That's a word for someone.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: That's a word for someone listening right now. That's like,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: I just don't have these guys fire. I guess God
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: just didn't build me that way.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't have that personality. I don't have that loudness.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I don't have that courage. I'm like, yeah, that's not
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: a personality trait. It's not, it's not gender. It's not
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: like I tell people it's not height. Thank the Lord.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Because I'm very vertically challenged. Boldness has nothing to do
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: with that. Boldness comes in the presence of God in
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: acts four. When, the people saw the boldness of Peter
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and John. It says they were amazed at their boldness
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and it made them realize they had been walking with Jesus.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: So where does boldness come from? It comes in the
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: presence of God. When you walk with Jesus long enough
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: and you get in his presence, there is a boldness
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: that comes. And I think it's because I had gotten
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: on my knees before God. I knew he wanted me
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: to speak about abortion. So there was a boldness to
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: it because I'm not speaking my own ideas. This is
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: what God wants to say to his people right now.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: And I don't care if I lose people. I don't
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: care if you hate me. I don't care what happens.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I have God on my side as I speak.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people too, they're like,
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: there's this idea that like, well, you know, the gospel
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: is going to go out through love.
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: And they think that what you're talking about is different
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: than that.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: But when we look at the book of Romans, I
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: believe it's chapter 12. It says, abhor what is evil.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Hold fast to what is good. It says, let love
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: be genuine. Okay. Now we're waiting for it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Hate what is evil. Abhor what is evil. Cling to
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  Speaker 2: what is good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So love is to hate what is evil.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think so many Christians are just like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like we need to love and, and, and
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: we've adopted this definition of love that comes from, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where it comes from, the enemy, that we're
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  Speaker 2: just supposed to tolerate. That love is to tolerate. And
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  Speaker 2: you hear that all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Like, love is love.
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  Speaker 2: And who am I to tell that person? And I
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  Speaker 2: do think that there is a certain nuance there where
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Jesus is attacking the Pharisees. He's going after the Pharisees
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  Speaker 2: more than he's going after the people outside the church.
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  Speaker 2: And so are we to conquer as Christians?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Are we to protect our sheep? As shepherds, 100%.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: And there are wolves in the death cult that are
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  Speaker 2: coming after the sheep.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the calling of some people. That is clearly
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  Speaker 2: the calling of you guys. We are to be the
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  Speaker 2: salt in the light of the earth. What does the
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: salt do? It preserves.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. And I think you, as a Christian, the truth
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  Speaker 3: has to always be said, and you always got to
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  Speaker 3: do it in love. The way it comes across might
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: come across mean, but... In the bottom of our heart,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: it's always through love. It's always about love. Like when
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: I tell people from the crowd, repent of your sin,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: repent of your homosexuality. Those who are homosexual, the homosexual,
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  Speaker 3: the drunkard, the greedy, the thief, we don't inherit the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: kingdom of God. That might seem hateful, but that's not hateful.
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  Speaker 3: That's the most loving thing I can do to you. Amen.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: That is the most loving thing I can do to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: you in the crowd as I preach. is not to
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: tell you just that Jesus loves you. Sometimes it's to
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: tell you, repent of your sin. You're going to hell, bro.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Like you are going to... Sometimes the most loving thing
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  Speaker 3: to do is to tell a young couple sleeping together,
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  Speaker 3: if you don't repent, you're going to go to hell.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: And I might come across harsh, but this is the
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: power of the gospel. The power of the gospel is
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: sometimes it cuts you and it hurts, right? When Peter preached,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: it says... the people will come to the heart. They
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: were convicted. And then 3,000 people saved. And that's what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: we're saying. We preach the gospel and have the crowd
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: get offended, have the crowd repent. And I think it's
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: both sides. If everyone hates you, maybe there's something wrong.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: You're probably just mean. You're just mean. But if everybody
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: likes you, if everybody likes you as a preacher and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: a Christian, you're also doing something wrong. I love losing followers.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Like a lot of influencers and preachers, measure how many
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: followers they get. I don't just measure followers. I measure unfollowers.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: Because if the unfollowers are not going up, I'm not
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: doing right. Probably not saying anything. Well, me and Millie,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: you know, together combine about 10,000 followers a week we get. Unfollowers,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: we get about 2,000 unfollowers. So I love it. I
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: love the unfollowers going up. Keep unfollowing me.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 3: I don't want the whole world to agree with me.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: I just want the people of God to agree with me. Um,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: so the unfollowers keep going up and Jesus said it,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: you will be hated in this world. You will be hated.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: If they hated me, how much more would they hate you?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: If they crucified me, how much more would they kill you?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: So I think we got to just make peace with
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: not being liked by everyone. Yeah. Right. Make peace with
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: not being liked by everyone. Make peace with not being, um,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: accepted by the crowd.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: And the Bible covers that tension because the Bible also talks,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's in Peter. talks about how make sure
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  Speaker 1: the reason you are hated is not because of your
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: conduct and your behavior. So it's very simple as a Christian.
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  Speaker 1: You are supposed to love the people that you are
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: speaking to. That's the reason we speak the truth because
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: we love them. We don't want to see them go
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  Speaker 1: to hell. We want to be with them in heaven.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: The basis of why we speak is love. But we
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: must speak whatever the word of God says. I believe
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: our duty is to do what God told Jeremiah, stand
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: in the courtyard of your God, speak everything I've commanded
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: you and do not omit a word. What we have
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: today is a lot of Christians putting the word of
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  Speaker 1: God on the scales and deciding this is a loving
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  Speaker 1: thing to say. This is not a loving thing to say.
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  Speaker 4: Right, right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think it's pretty clear from Jesus, speak the
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  Speaker 2: truth in love.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there are some times where you can
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: speak the truth and have it not be loving.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: You can go up to someone and say, you're going
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: to burn in hell for eternity. And that person, they
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: just came to your church. They're a fresh person. you know, uh,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: curious belief. It's like, Hey, that wasn't loving.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah. A hundred percent.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Might it to be true? Maybe, but, but truth without
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: love is harsh. Love without truth is hollow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So we need to, we need to speak the truth
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  Speaker 2: in love. And sometimes the truth offends people. Jesus said, Hey,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: this is going to divide people. Come to bring a sword.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Like you're going to like hate your father and mother
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: in comparison to your love. This is going to divide families.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: So I've, I've lost relationship with families based off of
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: what I post.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Like, like some of my family members have been like,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Not talking to you anymore.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: And as I'm sure you guys have clearly you've experienced
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  Speaker 2: as well. And, and that's okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: That's okay. Because, because like you said, we need to
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: have the fear of the Lord over the fear of man,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: because he can throw soul and body into the pits
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: of hell.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And so, and preachers now, but preachers now don't
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: want to mention the word repent because They don't want
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: to preach to repent, sin, hell. So the first message
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: Jesus preached. Yeah. Well, they want to preach all the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: lovey stuff. Love, you know, love, accepted, welcome as you are,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: come as you are, all this stuff, which is amazing.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: But if your pastor doesn't preach about repentance, sin, and hell,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: he's not a real pastor because that's all across scripture.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: If someone goes to a church where their pastor hasn't
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: mentioned sin, hell, or repentance in the last year, I'm sorry,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: you're not a part of a church. You're a part
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: of an entertainment club. This is... A social club because,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: as you said, the first message that John the Baptist
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: preached was repent. The first message Jesus preached was repent.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: The first message Peter preached was repent. All the revivalists
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: across history, John Wesley and Charles Wesley preached repentance. Billy
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: Graham preached repentance. Jonathan Edwards preached repentance. George Whitfield preached repentance.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: And now we're having a 21st century, apparently, this new
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: mega church preachers. And I'm not attacking mega church. I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: love mega churches. I think the kingdom of God should
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: be mega. The problem is, are you going to preach
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the truth of the Bible even if your mega church
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: loses half its crowd? If you're not willing to lose
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: your crowd, you're not serving the Lord, you're serving people.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I believe it's the reason so many Christians
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: are deconstructing because what are you supposed to make of
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: if your pastor never mentions hell, repent? then you go
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: home and do some Bible plan as a new believer
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: and you read all of this stuff in the Bible,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you have two options. Either you believe your pastor is,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: is not disclosing everything the word of God says and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: is holding some stuff back from you, which you're less
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: likely to believe because your first thought would be your
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: pastor is here to shepherd me, loves me, cares about me.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: The other alternative is to believe that the Bible is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: not authoritative. Maybe the Bible is a story. Maybe it's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: like a, it's a, It's just a guide. It's not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: the authoritative word of God. That's what you're doing to people.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: If you don't speak the truth, they have two options.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: And what's going to end up happening is probably they're
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: going to end up not seeing the Bible as true. Well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: they'll see God as harsh. They'll see the Bible as harsh.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: People like to read the stories of Jesus where he's
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: touching the leper. The adulteress, the woman called him adultery.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: And these stories are amazing, but when you only read
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: these stories or when you only read the New Testament,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: you might get a bad or a false or an
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: incomplete picture of Jesus. You see an effeminate Jesus. People
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: see an effeminate Jesus. Every time they see Jesus, he's
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: carrying a lamb in the photo in the church. He's
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: carrying a lamb. He's a nice white guy with... long
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: hair and beautiful beard and you know he's got the
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: kids around him it's beautiful but you've got to realize
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: you've got to read the full bible you've got to
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: read the old testament and the new testament and how
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: he's coming back yeah and he's coming back because you're
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: right because the thing is jesus is not just spoken
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: of as the lamb of god he is the lion
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: of judah so when you look at jesus you shouldn't
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: just see a lamb a nice peaceful meek lamb no
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: no he is a Lion of Judah, a roaring lion.
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  Speaker 3: The first time Jesus came, he came in a manger.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: The second time he's not coming in a manger. He's
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: coming on a throne. The first time he came, he
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: came as a baby. Second time he's coming as a king.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: The first time Jesus came... he hung on a cross
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  Speaker 3: surrounded by criminals. Second time he comes, he's not going
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to be surrounded by criminals. He's going to be surrounded
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: by the armies of heaven. So these guys need to understand,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: Jesus is not some meek, just meek, weak. He's not weak.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: He's not effeminate. He's the greatest masculine example you could
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: ever imagine. which is both meekness and strength. Amen. It's right.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: It's both meekness and strength. It's both humility and courage
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: and boldness. It's all combined. Don't get one without the other.
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: So dude, you guys, holy smokes, man. The, the, the,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: the one thing, Ryan, um, the thing about for me,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I know we're going back to Islam, but I think
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: Americans need to be equipped on Islam. Islam has a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: very deceiving, um, they have a deceiving side of them. Um,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: Muhammad lied a lot in his lifetime. Muhammad one time
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: signed a 10-year peace treaty. And then two years later,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: he comes back and kills them. Allah is spoken of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: as a deceiver in the Quran. Allah, their God, like
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: on the cross. On the cross, apparently Jesus was on
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: the cross for them. And Allah took Jesus and put
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: someone that looked like him and apparently deceived 2.7 billion
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: Christians around the world. So what's very dangerous about Islam
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: is this deceiving side of them. And a lot of Christians,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: you might hear a Muslim tell you. Is that just
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: not Takiyah? No, so there's Takiyah. And then there's another
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: side where the Muslims come up to Christians. And Muslims
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: say to Christians, we're brothers. Muslims say, we believe in Jesus.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: Have you heard a Muslim say before, we believe in Jesus.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: We're brothers, man. We also believe in him. And this
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: is a deceiving thing about them They try to make
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: the Christians think Islam is just another denomination of Christianity.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Another Abrahamic religion.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: Another Abrahamic religion.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: As though Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is all the same.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: Islam is not a religion. It's a heresy of Christianity.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: Islam is not an Abrahamic religion. It's a heresy of Christianity.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: It's an anti-Christ religion.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: So they want to say we believe in Jesus. And
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Muslims do believe in Jesus. Muslims believe in Jesus. The
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: name Isa, which is Jesus in the Quran, is repeated
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: 25 times in the Quran. They believe in a virgin birth.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: They believe that Jesus healed the sick, opened the eyes
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: of the blind. They believe that Jesus raised the dead.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: So they have all these things that's close to the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: character of Jesus in the Bible. And they say, we
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: believe in Jesus too. But this is where the deceiving
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: part comes in. The deceiving part comes in this. Romans 10,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 3: 9 says, It says, if you confess with your mouth
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: that Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart that God
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. So
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 3: in Christianity, the three key words in this verse, Lord, death,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 3: and resurrection. That's really the three foundations of our Christology
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: or study of Christ, is that we believe Jesus was crucified,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: Jesus died on the cross, and He was resurrected. If
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: you take any of these three theologies out or doctrines out,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: you're not a Christian anymore. Muhammad comes 600 years after Jesus,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: and forevermore, flips the whole thing so he says jesus
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: is not god he's a prophet lie number one so
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: all my christians listening the muslims believe in jesus but
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: he's not god he's a prophet that's not my jesus
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: yeah so line number one they believe we believe jesus
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: is god they believe he's a prophet line number one
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: line number two we believe jesus died on the cross
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: for the sins of the world they believe jesus didn't
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: die on the cross allah saved him and replaced him
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: with someone that resembled him line number two yeah line
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: number three we believe jesus was resurrected resurrected Islam believes
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: he wasn't resurrected because he never died. So this is
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: kind of the deception is Islam would never unite with,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: Christianity would never unite with Islam. In fact, in Nigeria,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: there was a part of Nigeria 20 years ago where
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: they wanted to create a new religion called Chrislam. Islam
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: was a unity of Islam and Christianity combining saying, we
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: believe in Abraham. We believe in Noah. We believe in Moses.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: We believe in all these things. And they wanted to
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: unite it. And a lot of Muslims and Christians fell
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: for it. But Christianity can't unite with Islam. We believe
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: Jesus is the son of God. Their Jesus is the
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: teacher of truth. Our Jesus is the truth. They believe
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: in Jesus was just a good guy. We believe he
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: is goodness. He is perfect. And he's God in the flesh.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: They don't believe in that.
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  Speaker 4: So.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Christians really got to be careful when talking, when talking
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: to a Muslim, don't get deceived.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: And even, you know, the, the main beef I think
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: Muslims have with Christians is like, how can God be
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: three in one?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: Well, If you have a God that is love, he
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: has to be in relationship from the beginning of time.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: And what is love if it's not relationship?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: You cannot have– you can't just have like I am
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: a singular God who is the embodiment of love because
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: love has to have another to love.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: It has to have an object.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: And so fundamentally Islam is not a religion of love.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: Like Christianity is a religion of love because of their–
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: rejection of the Trinity.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: And the other problem, Muslims always say, where does Jesus
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: say he's God? Jesus never came to be God. Jesus
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: never said he's God. I'm like, really?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: Why did they crucify him?
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Why did they cry blasphemy?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Why did they cry blasphemy? Why did they kill Jesus?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: But wait a second. John 1 says, in the beginning
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: was the word. And the Word, sorry, in the beginning
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: was the Word, and the Word was with God, and
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: the Word was God. And in John 1, 14, 13
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: verses later, it says, the Word became flesh and dwelt
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: among us. Who was the Word that became flesh? Jesus Christ.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: In the beginning was the Word. Jesus was there from
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: the beginning. In the beginning was the Word, and the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Word was with God, and the Word was God. So Jesus,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: the Bible is very clear that Jesus is God. Oh, yeah.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: And even let us make man in our own image.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: What is the plural there? Who's the us? What about
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: when Jesus says, before Abraham was, I am. That I
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: am for us reading it today in the 21st century,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: you think it's just a name. No, this name in
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: the Old Testament was one of the most revered names.
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  Speaker 3: You couldn't say that name. That's why when Moses says
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: to God, if they ask me who sent you, Tell them,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: I am has sent you. That's the God of the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: Old Testament. So Jesus said before Abraham was, I am.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: What Jesus was saying to them is that God, I
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: am in the Old Testament. The God that saved you
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: from Pharaoh. The God that split the Red Seas. The
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: God that provided a pillar of fire and a pillar
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: of cloud. That's me in the flesh. Jesus was saying,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: here I am. And what about Hebrews? Hebrews says, It says,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: of the son, he says, this is the father speaking. Hebrews,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: in the book of Hebrews, it says, of the son,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: he says, the father speaking about Jesus, of the son,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: he says, your throne, oh God, stands forever. The father
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: called Jesus God. So the Muslims always come after the
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: three things. They come after Christology, which we just covered.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: Is Jesus God? Did he claim to be God? They
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: come after Trinitarian theology, which you just spoke about. And
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: they come after bibliology. Is the Bible accurate? There's so
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: much corruption in the Bible.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting how they'll accuse Christians of there's been
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: corruption in the Bible contradictions, which they give bad examples.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: When you look at the contradictions, it's like things like
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: how one gospel says Jesus was a carpenter and another
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: says he was the carpenter's son. Oh, that's a contradiction.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, no, maybe he's both. He's both a
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: carpenter and a carpenter's son. Because that's what you did
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: in that time. You always did what your father did.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: How many variants.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: Do they say there is? They say that there's 44,000
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: contradictions in our manuscripts. But when you look at them,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: 99% of those variations is things like spelling or in
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: the Greek language, like the movable new, which makes no
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: difference to meaning whatsoever. But in comparison, if you want
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: to attack the history of the Bible... We have 23,000 manuscripts.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Historians are amazed at the amount of manuscripts we have.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: The reason that's such a good thing is because you
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: have so many different texts. How do you know what
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: the original said? You look at these 23,000 manuscripts, and
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: if they're all saying this, and then one says something else,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: you know that this is what the original said. Whereas
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: in the early history of Islam, this guy named Uthman
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: realized that there were different texts and variations. And so
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: his solution to these different Quranic versions was to just
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: gather them from all of the Muslims and to burn
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: them and to make one standardized version of the Quran.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: So historically, the Quran does not pass any of the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: tests whatsoever. They don't have all these manuscripts. Therefore, they
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: don't have all these variations because they burnt all of them.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: So you can't know what the originals said.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: And then you got this other teaching. So you got
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: abrogation in Islam. Abrogation is this idea of that the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: later verses, the verses, because there's a lot of contradictions
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: in the Quran. So Muhammad, for example, would say, you
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: can have two wives. And then all of a sudden later,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: he's like, actually guys, I got a revelation. You can
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: have three. And then all of a sudden, actually, guys,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: I've got an updated revelation. You can have four.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: These revelations all coincide with his new girl.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Literally. So Muhammad has two wives. And he's like, guys,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: you can have two wives. All of a sudden, he
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: sees another beautiful woman. He's like, guys, wait. Allah spoke
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Allah spoke to me.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Allah came to me. And he told me I can
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: have three wives. And then all of a sudden, Muhammad
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: goes all the way to 11. He has 11 wives.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: And then he's not happy. His sexual perversion is not
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: satisfied enough. He sees a young girl, a six-year-old, Aisha.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 3: He sees a six-year-old. Muhammad is 54 years old. He
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: sees Aisha at the age of six. And he speaks
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: to the father. What is that? The father, Allah gave
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: me a revelation. What is that revelation? Allah told me
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: that's my wife. Imagine if a 54-year-old guy comes up
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: to you, says, hey, your daughter, your six-year-old daughter, God
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: told me I've got a marriage. That's what he did.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: And the man fought back. He was like, what? By
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: the end, he had to give him That's a founder
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: of Islam.
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  Speaker 2: And the crazy thing is when you bring that up
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: to Muslims today, they go, well, they didn't have sex
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: until she was nine.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes it so much better.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for waiting until she's nine.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: Oh, wow, the self-control.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: So you're right. It's like, oh, nine, you're so kind, man.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's like, so Muhammad, 54 years old,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: marries Aisha at the age of six. I wouldn't say
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: slept with her. I'd say he raped her at the
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: age of nine. Really? Like I know that word, people
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: don't use it, but you don't sleep with a nine
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: year old. You rape a nine year old. What nine
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: year old consents to sex? This was sexual perversion, demonic,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: like demonic activity at a whole nother level. And, and,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: and he sleeps with her at nine or rapes her
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: at nine. And this is kind of the, and still
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: to today, by the way, in Muslim countries, Muslim under
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: Sharia law, there's still child brides. Yeah. Like, you know,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: in Afghanistan, just, just the end of last year, A man,
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: a 40-year-old guy, a 44-year-old guy in Afghanistan went to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: the government and said, I want to marry this six-year-old.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: He applied to be married to a six-year-old. He's 44,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: applied to be married to a six-year-old. The government intervenes,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: the Taliban in Afghanistan. They intervene and they say, no,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: you can't marry a six-year-old. And I read that. I
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: was like, this is awesome. Thank the Lord. What do
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: they tell him? They say, no, you've got to wait
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: until she's nine. I'm like, wow, thank you. You're so kind.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much. You made him wait till she's nine.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: That's so nice of you. And again, they're simply following
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: their prophet. They're simply following their founder. That is their founder.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: And Muhammad, by the way, is not one of the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: prophets because a lot of Muslims, they say, oh, what
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: about Solomon? He had 900 wives and concubines. What about David?
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: He slept with Bathsheba and killed her husband Uriah.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: We don't worship David.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: What about Noah? He got drunk. These are people.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: These are people.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: And you're right we never it's not our God the
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: Bible is not it's not everything is prescriptive it's descriptive
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: yes so all these things.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: That's key explain that real fast so.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: Everybody listening not everything you read in the Bible is
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: God telling you you're allowed to do that yes which
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 3: is prescriptive so Solomon had 900 wives and concubines God
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 3: is not telling you you can have 900 wives and
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: concubines yes um Abraham, you know, slept with Hagar, his servant.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: God is not telling you to sleep with someone who's
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: not your wife. That is what you call descriptive. The
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: writers are describing the narrative and describing the story. Then
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: there's prescriptive. Prescriptive is God is prescribing every believer across
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: the nation, eternally across the world. every time, space, and culture,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: this is prescription for you on how to live. So
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: the question is, that's where the Muslims deceive the Christians.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: They say, but Solomon did that. I'm like, that's descriptive,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: not prescriptive. The prescriptive things is the teachings of Paul.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 3: The prescriptive things are the teaching of the disciples, the gospels,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: the teaching of Jesus, the Beatitudes. That's prescriptive that we
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: live by. And that's why, by the way, when Solomon,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: after he had 900 wives and concubines, what did God do?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: He split his kingdom. He punished him. David sleeps with
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Bathsheba and kills her husband Uriah. What does God do?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: He punishes him. Now people are actually punished for their sin. Muhammad,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: on the other hand, sleeps with a nine-year-old and apparently
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: he's going to get a reward in heaven.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he gets a new revelation.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Which is abrogation.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: Dang it.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: So, okay, so... what do we do? Like that's, that's,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I think that, I mean, I think there's information is
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: really powerful for, to educate people on this is coming
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: to America.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: There is a spirit of Islam that is moving in these,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: these four phases that you've talked about. What does the
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: average listener do right now? What do they make of.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: All of this? Yeah. I, every, everyone listening, a few things.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Number one, get your life right with God, get your
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: life right with God. Stop being a Luke home Christian.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: There's no more room for Luke home Christianity. Um, God
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: in Revelation to the church on Laodicea, He says, you're
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: neither cold nor hot. You're lukewarm. You're in the middle.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: And He says, I wish you were cold or hot.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: And because of that, God says to the church on Laodicea,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: I will spit you out of my mouth. And I
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: think that the Americans, one of the most important things,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: because I find a lot of Americans are fighting Islam,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: but they don't understand one of the ways to fight
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 3: Islam is to have Christians who are strong in their faith.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Have strength. Be strong and courageous in your faith. um,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: live holy. Like, and this might sound simple, like Islam
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: live holy. I really do believe when Christians live, right. Um,
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: the nation will be blessed. If you're getting drunk, stop
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: getting drunk. If you're sleeping with someone, it's not your wife.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 3: Stop it.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Um, if you're cussing and swearing, stop it. Um, be
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: a part of a local church, uh, be a part
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 3: of a local biblical church. Don't be a part of
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: a work week church. Um, Don't be a part of
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 3: a church that doesn't preach the truth, that doesn't tell
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 3: you that marriage is between a man and a woman.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 3: Be a part of a biblically faithful church. Build the
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: kingdom of God. And let's fight for this country.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: By the way, what you're saying is completely biblical. This
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: was God's warning to the people of Israel that if
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: they intermarry, if they enjoy the false gods of the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: enemy nations, if they start disobeying the law of God's
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: law and they start adopting these practices from these false gods,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: then these enemy nations will take over. They will rule
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: over them. That's Deuteronomy 22 or 23. They will rule
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: over you. That will be the punishment. So the truth is,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: if the Christians do not start living holy, do not
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: start returning to God's word and God's standard of righteousness
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: and holiness, if we start intermarrying with these false gods
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: of secularism, of feminism, of abortion, LGBTQ, the punishment from
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: God will be to hand us over to the enemies.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: If we forsake God, if we forsake the Bible, then
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: God's way of punishing historically all throughout the Bible is
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: to hand you over as captives to the enemy so
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: that you wake up and return to your God. And
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: I don't want to go to Babylon. Like, can we
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: wake up before we go to Babylon? I don't want
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: to go there.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, don't mess with sin. America thinks sin is fun
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: and games and all that. No. you serve there's a
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: holy god in heaven um there's a holy god in
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: heaven you cannot raise the pride flag over your country
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: and expect blessing on your country don't don't you america
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: is raising a pride flag over the country we have
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: pride month we have pride parades yeah you think god
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: is gonna let you go god's gonna punish you you
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: kill 1 million babies in a womb every year and
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: you think god is gonna let you go you think
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: you you think you can mock the holiness and the
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: justice of god the Don't mess around with the Holy God.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: God is righteous. You think you can mix with foreign
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: gods and God won't destroy you? That was a warning
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: of all the prophets in the Old Testament. Stop mixing
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: with foreign gods. Stop mixing. You have Christians now. I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: hear so many stories of Christians marrying non-Christians. A Christian
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: marrying a Muslim. A Christian marrying an atheist. A Christian
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: marrying a Hindu. I'm like, Don't you remember the warning
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: of the prophets? Do not intermarry with the pagans. Do
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: not intermarry. Don't intermarry. It's not cool. And there's no
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: such thing as float to convert. He's on his journey
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: with the Lord. He's going to come to God. No,
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: if he gets drunk, don't marry him. If he's a Muslim,
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: don't marry him. If he cusses and swears, don't marry
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: an unbeliever. Marry the people of God. Let's keep Christianity Christian.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Let's keep Christian families Christian. Christian, let's get strong marriages back.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: I would tell young people, stop hooking up. Stop with
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: this hookup culture. Stop with this hookup culture. Get married.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: Get married. Have children. Go to church. Have lots of children.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 3: If you have two children, have four. If you have four,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: have six.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: Come on, bro.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: You're calling me out.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: There's a lot right now. I mean, we.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: Need to practice what we preach.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have one and we have another six coming.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: We have a long way to go.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: You have four, I don't know. We'll see what happens.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: But really, this is kind of from a down-up war.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: The war on Islam... And notice, by the way, how
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: I say Islam, not Muslims. Everyone needs to understand, we
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: love Muslims, we hate Islam.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: We actually hate Islam because we love Muslims.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 3: We hate Islam because we love Muslims.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Are the victims of Islam. Because we're not waging against
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: flesh and blood. It's satanic at its core. And he
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: hates the people that are actually Muslim.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: And again, me saying I love the Muslims does not
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: mean I want them in my country. Okay. So everybody
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 3: needs to understand that you saying I love the Muslims
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 3: does not mean you bring a million of them or
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: a hundred thousand of them into your country and say,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: I love them. And it's a problem. A lot of
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 3: people are saying, I want to save the Muslims. A
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 3: lot of people say that. Right. And it's a great heart.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: It's a great, it's a great prayer and desire. I
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: want to save the Muslim. That was my dad's desire. Right.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: My dad's desire was to save the Muslims and we
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 3: didn't see it. And a few points when it comes
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: to Christians saying, I want to save the Muslims. Therefore,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: let's bring them into our country. Number one, Muslims are
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 3: getting saved all around the world. There is a revival
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: in Muslim nations right now. There is a revival in
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: Muslim nations right now. In Indonesia, I was just preaching
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: in Indonesia. I'm literally preaching and there's a lady in
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: a hijab sitting down listening to my sermon. She's a Christian.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: She just doesn't want to take her hijab off so
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: she doesn't get killed on this island. God is moving.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 3: Indonesia has 100,000 Muslims convert to Christianity every single year.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: Iran.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: Iran has 75,000 mosques. By 2023, 50,000 mosques out of
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: the 75 shut down.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: Praise God. In Gaza in 2023, 200 Gazans. 200 Gazans.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: saw visions of Jesus Christ on the same night and
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: became Christians. So for all my Christians that are like, man,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: let's bring the Muslims in America and into the West
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: so we can save them. Don't worry. God's saving them
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: in the Middle East. So number one, God is already
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: moving in the Middle East. Number two, in order to
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: save Muslims, you don't need to bring them into your country.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: You go to their countries. That's the point of missionaries, right? Missionaries.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: That's the core. And the American church has forgotten about that.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: God said go into the world, not bring the world.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: God says go, the Great Commission, go into all the world,
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  Speaker 3: preach the gospel, make disciples, baptize them. You don't bring
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  Speaker 3: them here. You don't bring the pagan cultures here. You
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  Speaker 3: don't bring the Islamists here and then save them here.
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  Speaker 3: You send missionaries out.
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  Speaker 2: And that's the hard part because I was talking to
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  Speaker 2: my buddy who really understands the geopolitical situation in Nigeria.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, what is the answer? And he goes, martyrs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Christian martyrs sent to the north to be killed. And
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  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, my gosh, I hate that answer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I hate that answer. Yeah. But it is.
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  Speaker 2: I think I hate it because I realize it's what
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  Speaker 2: needs to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's where the boldness comes from.
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  Speaker 2: That's why the disciples prayed for boldness. Because they probably
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  Speaker 2: knew they were going to be killed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They probably figured it out along the way. Like, ooh,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't going to end with rainbows and butterflies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's true.
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  Speaker 2: So I would love, as we kind of land this
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  Speaker 2: plane here, I would love for you guys to pray
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  Speaker 2: for boldness.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Amen.
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  Speaker 2: For the listener. Amen. Could maybe both of you guys
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  Speaker 2: pray just over our listener who's maybe hearing this and
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  Speaker 2: they're like, dang, they're feeling a little bit of like
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  Speaker 2: nervousness of the fact that Islam is coming to the West.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: But also understand that there's a call on all of
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  Speaker 2: our lives.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe they don't feel ready to step into that.
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  Speaker 2: Could you just pray for their boldness?
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 1: Amen.
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  Speaker 3: Let's pray.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Wherever you are right now listening, believe that the Holy
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  Speaker 3: Spirit can fill you where you're at. Really pray from
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  Speaker 3: the bottom of your heart. The same way Millie wasn't
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  Speaker 3: courageous and she prayed for courage and God gave it
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  Speaker 3: to her. Same as me. I wasn't courageous. My first
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  Speaker 3: sermon I did I halfway through my sermon, I cried,
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  Speaker 3: dropped my Bible and ran out. And if it wasn't
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  Speaker 3: for God's courage, we wouldn't be here. So I really
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  Speaker 3: believe with a young, old, whatever country you're listening to.
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  Speaker 3: Let's pray. Lord, we thank you. god we thank you
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  Speaker 3: lord that you have not given us a spirit of
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  Speaker 3: fear but a spirit of power of sound mind lord
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  Speaker 3: i thank you god that where the spirit of the
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  Speaker 3: lord is there is freedom god and i pray right
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  Speaker 3: now holy spirit you are omnipresent you are everywhere at
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  Speaker 3: the same time and right there god in their living
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  Speaker 3: room in their bedroom in their car as they're listening Lord,
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  Speaker 3: right now we speak Holy Spirit that you would fill
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  Speaker 3: that place therein. And where the Spirit of the Lord is,
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  Speaker 3: there is freedom. We speak freedom from fear. We speak
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  Speaker 3: freedom from timidity. We speak freedom, Lord, from being a coward.
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  Speaker 3: We speak freedom, God, from the fear of man. And
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  Speaker 3: we declare courage and boldness. We declare God, as you
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  Speaker 3: said to Joshua, be strong and courageous. For the Lord
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  Speaker 3: your God is with you wherever you go. God, we
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  Speaker 3: say that to ourselves. Be strong and courageous. Be strong
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  Speaker 3: and courageous for the Lord your God is with you.
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  Speaker 3: Not strong and courageous because we're strong or we're good
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  Speaker 3: or we're good at speaking or intellectual God or smart.
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  Speaker 3: But God, be strong because you are with us. That
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  Speaker 3: was your promise, Lord, in the Great Commission. You said
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  Speaker 3: to the disciples, go into all the world, preach the gospel.
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  Speaker 3: Make disciples and baptize them in the name of the Father,
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  Speaker 3: the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And you said, be
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  Speaker 3: sure of this. I am with you to the end
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  Speaker 3: of the days. Thank you, Lord, that as we preach, disciple,
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  Speaker 3: and baptize people, this is your promise. You are with us, God.
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  Speaker 3: You are with us in Africa. You are with us
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  Speaker 3: in Nigeria. You are with us in America, Australia, Europe,
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  Speaker 3: and Canada. Lord, in every country, your spirit is with us, God.
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  Speaker 3: You go before us and behind us, and you surround us, Lord.
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  Speaker 3: I pray, Lord, for a hedge of protection around your people.
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  Speaker 3: I pray the blood of Jesus over all of us, God,
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  Speaker 3: as we preach over Millie and I, over Ryan, over
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  Speaker 3: the listeners, over the pastors in Nigeria and the Christians
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  Speaker 3: in Nigeria and the persecuted church around the world. Lord,
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  Speaker 3: we pray for your protection. I had your protection. I
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  Speaker 3: pray for signs and wonders and miracles, Lord. Let your
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  Speaker 3: name be glorified and bring revival in America and across
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  Speaker 3: the nations in the name of Jesus. Amen. Amen.
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  Speaker 1: Lord, I just pray, God, in the same way Peter
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  Speaker 1: and John prayed for the early believers in Acts 4.
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  Speaker 1: They prayed for boldness to fill your church, to fill
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  Speaker 1: your body, to fill the believers so they would be bold, unashamed,
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  Speaker 1: unafraid to speak your truth, God, in the same way
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  Speaker 1: that boldness was an answer to prayer by your spirit.
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  Speaker 1: I just trust right now as we pray for boldness
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  Speaker 1: over every listener that your spirit would go out and
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  Speaker 1: fill every heart, every listener, every person listening to this
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  Speaker 1: podcast right now. We trust that it is by your
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  Speaker 1: spirit that we experience boldness, courage, and And Lord, we know, God,
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  Speaker 1: that it is when we already decide today that we
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  Speaker 1: are willing to lose our lives for you, God, for
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  Speaker 1: the sake of truth, for the sake of the gospel, God.
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  Speaker 1: If we can just die now to ourselves, then nothing
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  Speaker 1: will cause us fear, God. We decide and we commit
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  Speaker 1: to you right now, God. We decide right now, God,
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  Speaker 1: that we fear you above any man. We fear you, God,
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  Speaker 1: above any persecution, any threat. And we decide, God, now, today,
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  Speaker 1: that we are willing to lose our lives for you
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  Speaker 1: because you already gave your life for us. We trust
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  Speaker 1: you with our lives. We trust you with our platforms.
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  Speaker 1: We trust you, God, with everything about our lives. We
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  Speaker 1: give it, we cast it into your hands, Lord. And
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  Speaker 1: I just pray that courage and boldness would reign in
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  Speaker 1: Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: Amen. And guys, continue to pray for Martin and Millicent.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: As you can tell, they're on the front lines right now.
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  Speaker 2: And you guys have death threats. You guys have people
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: that are after you. And so we just cover you
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  Speaker 2: right now in the name of Jesus, with the blood
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  Speaker 2: of Jesus, with the protection of the warring angels that
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  Speaker 2: surround you in your home, in your church, as you
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  Speaker 2: go to the market, wherever you are, Lord. And we
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: all just collectively, even the listener right now, would you
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  Speaker 2: please pray for them? Would you remember them in your prayers?
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  Speaker 2: And we believe that you will provide a hedge of
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  Speaker 2: protection around them, Lord. In Jesus' name, amen.
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  Speaker 3: Amen.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are awesome, man. Guys, thank you for joining
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  Speaker 2: us on the Jesus People podcast.
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  Speaker 3: That was a good one.
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  Speaker 2: We will see you guys next week.