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- 0:09Austin faces a high stakes choice
- 0:11on funding parks over I-35,
- 0:13with city leaders split over how to
- 0:15move forward.
- 0:16We'll hear more about that from
- 0:17transportation reporter Nathan
- 0:19Bernier.
- 0:20Plus some great music came out of
- 0:21Austin in 2025.
- 0:23KETX's Ryan Wen highlights his
- 0:25favorite song of the year.
- 0:27Also, we catch up with longtime
- 0:29musician, Robert Earl Keane,
- 0:31who's gearing up for his Christmas
- 0:33shows right here in Austin.
- 0:35The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:37of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:39Miles Bloxson.
- 0:41KUTX's Maile Carballo checks
- 0:43in with the latest music news.
- 0:45And guess what?
- 0:46Christmas is right around the
- 0:47corner. I know time flies, so
- 0:49if you're like me and you still
- 0:50haven't finished your holiday
- 0:52shopping, don't worry,
- 0:54we've got some ideas just for you.
- 0:56All that and more coming up right
- 0:58here on the Austin Signal.
- 1:10Hi there, Austin!
- 1:11It's Thursday, December 18th.
- 1:13I'm Miles Bloxson.
- 1:14And can you believe it's exactly
- 1:16one week until Christmas for those
- 1:18who celebrate the holiday?
- 1:19So what does that mean?
- 1:21Time is running out if you
- 1:22still need to do some holiday
- 1:23shopping. I know I still have
- 1:25a few things to pick up, so you are
- 1:27not alone in that.
- 1:28But don't worry, we'll have some
- 1:30ideas on where you can go later on
- 1:32in the show.
- 1:33This is The Austin Signal.
- 1:35A quick headline before we start the
- 1:37show... Leander ISD has
- 1:39voted to close an elementary school
- 1:41for the 2026-2027
- 1:43school year.
- 1:44The move was considered as a
- 1:46cost-cutting measure since the
- 1:47district is facing a $12.8
- 1:49million budget shortfall.
- 1:51We have more on this story at
- 1:53KUT.org.
- 1:55And a looming decision over the
- 1:57construction of parks above I-35
- 1:59is forcing Austin City Council
- 2:01members to weigh two risky paths
- 2:03forward. As KUT's Nathan
- 2:05Bernier reports, They're beginning
- 2:07to split.
- 2:07Over which one the city should
- 2:09actually take.
- 2:12This fork in the road centers on
- 2:14a deceptively simple question.
- 2:17Which highway decks should the city
- 2:19commit to paying for?
- 2:21Council members already approved the
- 2:23broad footprint of the project
- 2:25in May.
- 2:27As amended is adopted.
- 2:31That vote committed the city to
- 2:33paying TxDOT more than $100 million
- 2:35at some point in the future,
- 2:37likely around the year 2030.
- 2:40And that money would pay for the
- 2:41support columns that would hold up
- 2:43these giant parks over the
- 2:45highway after TxDOT tears
- 2:47down the upper decks and sinks the
- 2:48main lanes.
- 2:49So where would these park decks go?
- 2:52Here's where they're putting the
- 2:53support column, from Cesar Chavez
- 2:55to 7th Street, From 11th
- 2:57to 12th Street and then a couple
- 2:59smaller 300-foot-wide
- 3:01decks that could go in near the
- 3:02Hancock Center.
- 3:04So now councilmembers have to decide
- 3:05which of those park decks they'll
- 3:07have the money to pay for over the
- 3:09next eight years or so.
- 3:11The price tag on those is
- 3:13unclear.
- 3:14The full package, just the decks,
- 3:16nothing on them, would be more than
- 3:19$300 million.
- 3:20But something changed since the
- 3:22council took that first vote in
- 3:24May on the support columns, And
- 3:26that is...
- 3:27The city now says it has a lot
- 3:29less time to lock in the
- 3:31best price on those park decks
- 3:33before the cost is guaranteed
- 3:35to go up.
- 3:36We do understand that
- 3:38TechStot is kind of
- 3:40moving timelines now.
- 3:41Christine McGuire is with the City's
- 3:44Economic Development Department.
- 3:45It's really not a November of
- 3:4726 hard
- 3:49decision that they really need more
- 3:51clarity from council in
- 3:53May of 2026
- 3:56for future commitments for
- 3:58CAPTEC.
- 3:59So took
- 4:01all the oxygen out of the room.
- 4:03I can proceed to the other
- 4:05slide.
- 4:05Having to make the decision by May
- 4:07instead of November puts the city
- 4:09in a more risky financial situation,
- 4:12city staff say.
- 4:13They were expecting more detailed
- 4:15cost estimates before having
- 4:17to commit, because the city has
- 4:18to pay if anything goes over budget.
- 4:21TxDOT says it does not need a
- 4:23firm commitment by May, only
- 4:25a general idea of which
- 4:27caps the city wants to build.
- 4:29City staff say they
- 4:31can't even make a ballpark
- 4:33estimate. Without a
- 4:35formal City Council vote.
- 4:37I know, I'm a downer, I am a
- 4:38buzzkill, nobody invites me to
- 4:39meetings anymore, but that is from
- 4:40financial services point of
- 4:42view, the city's risk
- 4:44profile has increased.
- 4:48And that brings us to this fork in
- 4:49the road.
- 4:51Make a commitment in May to which of
- 4:52those caps the city will pay for
- 4:54without knowing exactly how much
- 4:56they'll cost, or wait until
- 4:58they have a much better idea of the
- 5:00price tag, knowing it will
- 5:01definitely cost more.
- 5:04And that's the question that is,
- 5:05again, dividing the city council.
- 5:07On the one hand, you have council
- 5:08members like Chito Vela, who are
- 5:10all in on building parks
- 5:12over I-35.
- 5:13There's no question that this
- 5:14project is going to cost a lot.
- 5:17The reality is though when it's done
- 5:19it will have huge economic
- 5:22benefits in terms of additional
- 5:24property tax revenues that are going
- 5:25to be brought in to the
- 5:27city and that's the money
- 5:29that we get to pay for our
- 5:31emergency services to pay for our
- 5:33parks and our libraries and our
- 5:35quality of life.
- 5:36On the other hand, you have council
- 5:38members like Christa Lane, who voted
- 5:39against the plan in May to pay for
- 5:41those support columns.
- 5:43She says the financial risks
- 5:44have only increased since then.
- 5:46We need to make sure that we have
- 5:48enough capacity for the needs of the
- 5:50city, given the very significant
- 5:51revenue constraints.
- 5:52And the more that we
- 5:54do not acknowledge the actual
- 5:56level of risk in these costs,
- 5:59the greater it could really
- 6:01hurt us as a city.
- 6:02Then there are council members like
- 6:03Paige Ellis, who's somewhere in
- 6:05between.
- 6:06She supports signing up the city to
- 6:07pay for a smaller package of parks
- 6:09over the highway, specifically just
- 6:11the 11th to 12th street cap
- 6:13and the smaller 300-foot-wide
- 6:15decks near the Hancock Center.
- 6:17But she's skeptical of this
- 6:19whole timeline.
- 6:20I don't see a scenario where I'm
- 6:22supportive of let's just continue
- 6:24to say we will
- 6:27find money later when we don't
- 6:29know where we're going to find it.
- 6:30I feel like we're being put in, you
- 6:32know, in between a rock and a hard
- 6:33place for numbers that
- 6:35are flexible.
- 6:36They're moving around.
- 6:38And if we didn't hate I-35
- 6:40enough, this is definitely
- 6:42adding fuel to the fire.
- 6:45There's also option number three,
- 6:47do nothing.
- 6:49And after the I-35 expansion is
- 6:51completed around 2033,
- 6:53TxDOT will impose a 10-year
- 6:55moratorium on any construction
- 6:57on I- 35.
- 6:59Then the city could come back around
- 7:002043 and talk
- 7:02again about building highway parks.
- 7:05Because no matter what, they have
- 7:07already committed to paying for
- 7:08those support columns that would
- 7:10hold them up.
- 7:11I'm Nathan Bernier in Austin.
- 7:24You're listening to the Austin
- 7:25Signal.
- 7:26Hello, I'm Ryan Wen, and I'm
- 7:28a host and producer for KUTX.
- 7:30One of my favorite songs out of
- 7:31Austin this year is called Julia by
- 7:34Boomer Shack.
- 7:34Julia says
- 7:37the moon on
- 7:39high Same
- 7:42one as yesterday
- 7:44I love hard-swinging down-tempo
- 7:47music, and as much as I
- 7:48may outwardly profess my love for
- 7:50things like funk, Quiet Storm R&B,
- 7:53and bluesy doom metal, I also
- 7:55secretly, terminally
- 7:56love sad-boy Americana.
- 7:59With all I
- 8:00could give up
- 8:07To be honest, Boomer Shack is a bit
- 8:09of an enigma, which is kind of hard
- 8:10to be today, but typically the best
- 8:12musicians are really bad at
- 8:14marketing themselves.
- 8:15But what I can glean from the little
- 8:17information that exists about them
- 8:18is that the primary songwriter is
- 8:20named Dan Perez, and
- 8:22the material that eventually led to
- 8:24this song and their debut EP
- 8:26originated from a drawer full of
- 8:28demo cassettes and eight-track
- 8:29recordings Perez had written and
- 8:30recorded over the course of a
- 8:32decade.
- 8:36Nail by nail,
- 8:40side by side
- 8:41I see Evelyn
- 8:44and you'll
- 8:45Anyways, while I love the
- 8:47footstopping, honky-tonk sound,
- 8:49it's all about those vocals for me.
- 8:50That raspy voice, swinging melody,
- 8:53and all the longing, frustration,
- 8:55and self-loathing a sad song-enjoyer
- 8:57could want.
- 8:58Add a few simple yet tastefully
- 9:00placed backup harmonies, and man,
- 9:02this is the stuff.
- 9:04I'm a fool,
- 9:07every time I'm
- 9:09winning, I'm on
- 9:11my own
- 9:13Dead in water,
- 9:16that's nothing
- 9:19It's vaguely like a honky tonk take
- 9:21on the Beatles' Oh Darling, which
- 9:23in and of itself is kind of
- 9:24derivative of an old school southern
- 9:26style of R&B.
- 9:28Well, I don't think Boomer Shack was
- 9:29consciously pulling from these
- 9:30places, but this is all to say,
- 9:32they get it.
- 9:33I was hooked within seconds of
- 9:35hearing this song, and immediately
- 9:36texted like five of my friends to
- 9:38listen to it.
- 9:39I know that the sun
- 9:41will rise
- 9:43Let's bet
- 9:44The vibe is, it's
- 9:46a Tuesday and you're on your 12th
- 9:48Lone Star at the hole in the wall
- 9:49when a band nobody has ever heard of
- 9:51steps onto the front stage and
- 9:53immediately reminds you why you
- 9:55moved to Austin.
- 9:55I just pray
- 9:57that you're right here
- 9:59with me With
- 10:01all I can give
- 10:03her I...
- 10:08I'm Ryan Wen, and I'm a host and
- 10:10producer at KUTX,
- 10:12and you can find out all of our
- 10:14favorite songs from 2025 over
- 10:16at kutx.org.
- 10:18This is Austin Signal.
- 10:20This is all I can give up,
- 10:22can't give up on
- 10:24you This is All
- 10:26I can Give Up You
- 10:29know I'm
- 10:31a Sheep And I'm
- 10:33Winning
- 10:37There's more Austin Signal coming
- 10:39up after this.
- 10:41Stay with us.
- 10:44Oh
- 10:52This is the Austin Signal, I'm Miles
- 10:53Bloxson.
- 10:58A box of Tampons,
- 11:00a Marlboro Line
- 11:03Yeah, everybody say
- 11:05cheese Merry
- 11:08Christmas from the family
- 11:13Merry Christmas from the family by
- 11:15Robert Earl Keen has become a
- 11:16Christmas staple beyond just Texas
- 11:19households and for years Keen's
- 11:21annual Christmas show has captured
- 11:23that same enthusiasm and love
- 11:25for the holiday.
- 11:26Freshly back on the road from
- 11:28retirement, the legendary Texas
- 11:30singer and songwriter will be in
- 11:32Austin for his shows Friday and
- 11:33Saturday.
- 11:38He's much for talking with us
- 11:39today.
- 11:40Hey, thank you for
- 11:42tracking me down, Miles.
- 11:44I appreciate it.
- 11:44Of course.
- 11:46How many years have you done a
- 11:47Christmas tour?
- 11:48I think it's about 14.
- 11:51I wrote the song quite a while
- 11:53ago and then it turns out that
- 11:55people
- 11:57just wanted to hear me play the song
- 11:59during Christmas time so we started
- 12:01putting these Christmas shows
- 12:02together. That's how that came
- 12:03about.
- 12:04Yeah, so what inspired that song
- 12:06that that some would say
- 12:08is more realistic portrayal of
- 12:10holiday celebrations
- 12:11I grew up in Houston, Texas and
- 12:14I was writing some songs
- 12:16for another record and kind of wore
- 12:17myself out trying to be real
- 12:19serious.
- 12:20It was just about Christmas time and
- 12:22I thought, you know, I don't have a
- 12:23Christmas song.
- 12:24I don't know what chestnuts are
- 12:26and sleigh
- 12:28bells and the whole thing.
- 12:29So I decided I'm just going
- 12:31to write my own Christmas song and I
- 12:33didn't really intend to
- 12:35even record it ever.
- 12:36Finally the next time I talked
- 12:38to a producer.
- 12:39That they were asking what the
- 12:41producers always do.
- 12:42Well, do you have any more songs?
- 12:43And I said, yeah, I have this one.
- 12:46And I played that and they said, oh,
- 12:47you gotta put that on record.
- 12:48I said okay, so I did.
- 12:53I
- 12:59Well, this year, the holidays will
- 13:01be tough for those families impacted
- 13:03by the devastating floods that
- 13:05hit curville, you know, the hill
- 13:07country in central Texas in July,
- 13:09you did a benefit concert in August
- 13:11for those who were impacted.
- 13:12Can you tell us about the experience
- 13:14of doing that concert?
- 13:16Well, I was slated to
- 13:18play Kerrville on the
- 13:20river on 4th of July,
- 13:22and as everyone knows, that's when
- 13:24the flood happened.
- 13:25And so that was
- 13:27the beginning of our tour in the
- 13:29summer, and my manager
- 13:31Kelly Thomas and I sat around
- 13:33and said, well, we've got to do
- 13:34something.
- 13:35So we decided to immediately put
- 13:37all our money that we
- 13:39raised from our merchandise went
- 13:41to benefit the
- 13:44community foundation for the Texas
- 13:45Hill Country.
- 13:47And then we said, well, we got to do
- 13:48more. So we put together this
- 13:51concert at Whitewater and
- 13:53ended up with having over
- 13:5540 acts and eventually
- 13:57raised over $3.2
- 13:59million.
- 14:00That's amazing.
- 14:01And you know, the Hill Country is
- 14:03your home.
- 14:03So what has that area been like
- 14:05since July?
- 14:07It has improved
- 14:09greatly,
- 14:11actually, as far as the mess
- 14:13that the river was in.
- 14:16They came in there with an army
- 14:18full of trucks,
- 14:20and I'm talking about giant trucks
- 14:22as big as apartment complexes.
- 14:24They were giant.
- 14:25And they hauled away
- 14:27a lot of the trees and all
- 14:29the debris that was
- 14:31washed down and
- 14:33I'll have to say, it looks now
- 14:35more like a state park than
- 14:37a devastation,
- 14:39so they've done a really good job.
- 14:42The families that
- 14:44lost family and
- 14:45property, they're still hurting,
- 14:48yes.
- 14:49Yeah, that's something that, you
- 14:51know, that something that's hard to
- 14:52get over.
- 15:05You meant to retire a
- 15:07while back, but when it came down
- 15:09to it, you saw it
- 15:11and you said, hey, I don't want
- 15:13to retire.
- 15:14So what made you continue to
- 15:16decide to work?
- 15:20Well, mainly, Miles, I just
- 15:22didn't have anything that
- 15:24I knew how to do at all,
- 15:26other than perform and
- 15:28write songs. And I didn't want to
- 15:30learn how to anything new.
- 15:32I had some interests in other
- 15:33places, but I just, you know, when I
- 15:35started messing around with them,
- 15:36when took some time off,
- 15:38it just wasn't working for me.
- 15:40So this is
- 15:42what I love to do, I just continue
- 15:45at this.
- 15:48After I played a few shows, I found
- 15:49people really wanted me to come
- 15:51back. I kind of felt a little
- 15:53bit of shame that I was,
- 15:55you know, going back on my
- 15:57promise that I'm going to
- 15:59retire, but everybody seemed to be
- 16:01happy about it, so I'm happy back.
- 16:03When they asked me if I'd
- 16:05like to stay I said, I'm
- 16:07coming home to you
- 16:12I'm, coming home
- 16:14Baby, in my mind that's what I'm
- 16:17gonna do Can't
- 16:19love nobody on the telephone
- 16:22I'm comin' home to
- 16:24You
- 16:25It's hard to put down what you love,
- 16:27right? You gotta keep picking it up.
- 16:29So what is your favorite
- 16:31part about touring?
- 16:33The performance itself,
- 16:35I love performing, being
- 16:37on stage has always come
- 16:40very naturally to me,
- 16:43and now that I have just
- 16:46a huge bushel basket of songs,
- 16:48I don't ever run out of anything to
- 16:51talk about or sing about,
- 16:53so it's about the performance.
- 16:55Yeah, in Texas, you know, this big
- 16:57place, this place we call home.
- 17:00How did the audience in Texas differ
- 17:01from the audiences in other places?
- 17:03I would like to think we're the
- 17:04best, but what do you think?
- 17:06Well, no, there's a
- 17:08certain enthusiasm and
- 17:10wildness that go on with Texas
- 17:12audiences, but it is surprising
- 17:14that we can go from Portland,
- 17:16Oregon, to Portland, Maine.
- 17:20And audiences respond pretty
- 17:23well to us because we're
- 17:25out there to entertain people and
- 17:27we're out there have fun, and that's
- 17:28it.
- 17:29That's really the goal.
- 17:31And we do play well,
- 17:33and I have great, great musicians
- 17:35in my band, but we're
- 17:37out there to entertain, so
- 17:40we get a response
- 17:42from people that are like, God,
- 17:44I didn't know what I was going to
- 17:45get when I got here, and this is
- 17:46really fun, so it is.
- 17:49Well, that's amazing.
- 17:50We've been speaking with musician
- 17:52Robert Earl Keane.
- 17:54His Christmas show, Robert Earl
- 17:55King Presents The Greatest Christmas
- 17:58on Earth is in Austin this Friday
- 17:59and Saturday at ACO Live at
- 18:02the Moody Theater.
- 18:03We'll have a link to more in today's
- 18:05podcast show notes.
- 18:06Robert Earl keane, thanks so much
- 18:07for joining me this afternoon on
- 18:09the Austin Signal.
- 18:10Thank you, thank you, thanks.
- 18:13A mistletoe.
- 18:16When Santa Claus came
- 18:18knocking,
- 18:20he looked like Uncle Joe.
- 18:25Someone put the
- 18:27coffee on and
- 18:29find the Tylenol.
- 18:33Merry Christmas, everyone.
- 18:37Happy Holidays
- 18:39to you all.
- 18:42Well, it's been a big week for
- 18:44music news here in Austin,
- 18:46and KUT's Syeda Carrillo
- 18:48sat down with KUTX's Maile
- 18:50Carballo and asked her
- 18:52to catch us up.
- 18:55There's a lot of things happening this week.
- 18:56A little bittersweet week on
- 18:58the flip side of that though.
- 19:00It is the 50th season of the
- 19:02Armandillo Christmas Bazaar
- 19:04and it's super cool.
- 19:06It was started by the Armadillo
- 19:07World Headquarters.
- 19:08Of course, world renowned in
- 19:10Austin here. They've been doing a
- 19:11lot of great stuff recently kicking
- 19:13back up the brand.
- 19:15But celebrating the 50-th season of
- 19:17this little art bazaar and music
- 19:19collaboration is super cool.
- 19:21It's kind of one of those few
- 19:22places, very Austin thing
- 19:24to do, where you can grab a
- 19:26beer, buy a painting, and
- 19:28also see an Austin artist
- 19:30all at once.
- 19:32You can do that in a lot of places,
- 19:33but this is the place to go
- 19:35for Christmas shopping, Kind
- 19:37of similar to the Blue Genie, but
- 19:39supporting music as well.
- 19:41Yeah, it seems like a great
- 19:43one-stop shop to support
- 19:45local artists and also other types
- 19:46of creators, and hard
- 19:48to believe it's been 50 years
- 19:50already that it's been around.
- 19:52For folks who are not familiar,
- 19:54could you kind of tell us what to
- 19:56expect when you're visiting for the
- 19:57very first time?
- 19:59Absolutely. So there's a small entry
- 20:00fee when you enter.
- 20:02It is at the Palmer Event Center
- 20:04from now through December 21st.
- 20:07And when you go in, you'll hear
- 20:09music playing.
- 20:10They have live musicians, local
- 20:12musicians playing all day.
- 20:14And you can just shop around
- 20:16different artisan booths and
- 20:18see what's what, what you want to
- 20:19get for the family or for your
- 20:20friends.
- 20:21But actually today, currently
- 20:23right now, Austin's
- 20:26very own The Point is playing at
- 20:28art bazaar.
- 20:29As well as Como Las Movies
- 20:31later on at 4 and Madam
- 20:33Radar at 7 p.m.
- 20:35So two KUTX artists
- 20:37of the months in there It's pretty
- 20:38cool
- 20:38Very cool.
- 20:39Yeah, great opportunity to check out
- 20:41some local acts and how
- 20:43long is the is the bazaar
- 20:45open?
- 20:46Yeah, it's open now from
- 20:48now until December 21st,
- 20:50every day at 11 a.m.
- 20:52To 9 30 p.m at the Palmer
- 20:54Event Center downtown.
- 20:55Well, still some more time to
- 20:57check that out if you haven't been
- 20:58to the Armadillo Christmas Bazaar's
- 21:00and Austin Institution.
- 21:03And Maile, catch us up on some other
- 21:05big music news that happened this
- 21:07week.
- 21:07Yeah, absolutely.
- 21:08So on the more bitter side of
- 21:10things, yesterday it was announced
- 21:12that Joe Ely and Jim
- 21:14Stringer passed away.
- 21:15It's been a really hard week for
- 21:17celebrity passings all around, of
- 21:18course, with Rob Reiner as well.
- 21:20But this week we're remembering two
- 21:22kind of country roots musicians,
- 21:24those guys.
- 21:25Joe Ely was really a cornerstone
- 21:27of Texas music for over the past
- 21:2950 years, is
- 21:31a founding member of the Lubbock
- 21:33Mafia.
- 21:34A lot of people in Austin called him
- 21:36the musician's musician which I
- 21:37think is a really
- 21:39great quote.
- 21:41Jim Stringer as well was also a
- 21:43mainstay for kind of Austin Roots
- 21:45and Rockabilly for over 30
- 21:47years.
- 21:48He was the leader of the A.M.
- 21:49Band and yeah, just wanted to
- 21:51send out a big old cheers to these
- 21:53two guys and love and
- 21:55prayers to their family because
- 21:56they really helped to find the
- 21:58light.
- 21:58Music Capital of the World.
- 21:59Absolutely.
- 22:00Well, Maile, thank you for catching
- 22:02us up.
- 22:03And we do have a great look at Joe
- 22:05Ely's legacy over on kut.org
- 22:07for folks that want to learn more
- 22:09about him and take a look back at
- 22:10his impact on the Austin music
- 22:12scene.
- 22:13Maile Carballo is with our sister
- 22:15station at KUTX.
- 22:17Thank you, Mile, for catching up on
- 22:18Austin Music Headlines.
- 22:20Thank Thank you.
- 22:22Well, that's it for us here on the
- 22:24Austin Signal. Thanks so much for
- 22:26hanging out with us today.
- 22:28Rayna Sevilla is our technical
- 22:29director.
- 22:30Kristen Cabrera is our managing
- 22:31producer. Thanks for doing all that
- 22:33you do.
- 22:34We got more about the show in
- 22:36our podcast Show Notes at
- 22:38KUT.org slash Signal.
- 22:40I'm Miles Bloxson and for my buddy,
- 22:42Jerry Quijano, Austin Signal is
- 22:44back tomorrow.
- 22:45Talk to you then.