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Final Girl Phenoms · Pop Culture Junkie®

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  [Music]
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  Welcome to the Pop Culture Junkie Podcast. I'm Olivia here with my fellow Junkies.
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  Nicole and Shauna.
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  So I am so excited to talk to you guys. It is truly my favorite season. We are in Halloween,
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  spooky time. What are your plans for Halloween ladies? Just get drunk with you.
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  Always a good plan. Yeah, let's see here. So on Friday night, I'm going to be Friddy
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  Krueger, but like sexy.
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  Freddy Krueger. I'm going to say does anybody think that Friday Krueger just as is sexy?
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  I don't know. I'm sure some people's like fantasy. That's true. What's that rule that if it's
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  on the internet, there's porn of it or like if it exists, there's porn of it. So somebody else
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  is in the Friday Krueger, but I'm going to be sexy. Friday Krueger. And then night two me and a group
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  of girls are going to do Rocky Horror Picture Show. And I'm going to be Rocky, but like gender bent.
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  So probably just like a shiny gold bathing suit in a blonde wig and I don't know. No pants.
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  I love that. But are you going to make a double appearance of the blonde wig that we've seen on
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  your Instagram? I think it will be. I think it's going to be that blonde wig. But that one's really
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  sweaty too. So I'm sure by the end of the night, I'll just be like fuck this.
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  Burn that thing. Yeah. Where it gets like a smell to it. Oh, I got to be sure it smells right now.
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  Also last time I wore it, I had COVID and I didn't know it. So it's probably just like full of just
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  sweat and disease. Delicious, delicious. Maybe watch a TikTok or two of like washing your wig.
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  I saw the fuck out of that food. Yeah. And then just on Hockshaw Halloween, probably just go
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  trick-or-treating with my sister, Lawn nephew. Do you actually fun family stuff? What about you guys?
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  It's always great when you actually have like a little kid and you're either like your family or
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  your friend group because it's so much more fun when there's a baby. Right. Like watching his
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  joy trick-or-treating last year was so amazing. And then we walked around the neighborhood and people
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  went all out in this neighborhood in Arizona. Like we got to walk through these little haunted houses.
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  Like people turned their whole garage into like a haunted like middle medieval. I don't know. It was just
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  sick. Was it in Scottsdale? It was in Gilbert. But it was just some, I'm sure Scottsdale has amazing ones too.
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  And then one house the lady was handing out like little liquor bottles for the adults. And this
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  was Christmas from laws very pregnant now. But last year we definitely got a little lip.
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  It was walking your son around. We had like our wine and our Halloween tumblers. It's like I feel
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  like such like a wine ant. And my god, you want to hold my hand and we'll go ask this how for candy
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  to be hard. So like sitting my shard in a classy. I love that time. Look what are you going to be?
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  That's so classy. You know I don't know yet. Should we workshop it together?
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  Well. The thing is, last time I recorded, I was single. Oh! Oh!
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  Oh! Okay, this nurse. T-time! Tee! That sea is getting filled. I am so sorry dear listeners. That's right.
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  Nicole is off the market. No more feet picks on the Patreon. Okay. I mean we can still do it. He's
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  so for it, honestly. He's so feminist. Yeah. Whatever brings in the cash, you know.
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  It's like, yeah, I like this guy. Our dual income household. So we're trying to think of like,
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  we're some little honeymoon phase. So we're trying to think of a couple's things. So we had like a
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  few ideas. So cute. Because he doesn't live in Arizona. So I'm going to come out to him.
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  He lives in Colorado. So I'm going to come out here to Colorado. So you need like something warm
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  ish? Yeah. Is it going to be called? Yes. Yes. I love that. So we're trying to think of something.
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  We've had a few ideas. We had like curious George. So he was going to be like the person in,
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  I don't watch curious George. I have no idea. But he was going to be the man in the yellow ad. I don't
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  know if he has a name. Yeah. And then I was going to be the monkey or we were going to do Woody and
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  Jesse from Toy Story. Oh, that piece. Or Lola and Bugs money. Is that it? Oh, that's a good one.
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  Whatever that was. I think that you should be fancy. And he should be a red solo cut.
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  Oh, that's a good one. That's funny. What are his interests? What is he, what does he like?
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  I'm like interviewing you. Listen, they're in the punny moon phase. He likes me. He likes me and might be.
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  I mean, I'm currently recording in his room right now. Oh, shit. What are you? He likes football. Okay.
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  I like the city chiefs. Oh, go try to go suggest. Yeah. This is lives at chiefs fans now for some reason.
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  Could be Travis and Taylor. Yeah, I think that would be so. That'd be so cute. That would be so. No, you should know. No, I'm not.
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  Sorry, people. I'm not a Taylor stan. One day we will win. We will win the swifty fight one day.
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  She got me to the dark side. She brought me over.
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  But I don't know. Yeah, we're still in the works of what we're trying to do. I know it's getting late,
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  but there can be barbeque. You could be barbeque. I know that was an option to. But I feel like, yeah, exactly. Everyone's going to be barbe. Yeah. You should be
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  Mitch and Alan. It's the permanent one. I'm just the pregnant one. Alan's Michael Sarah is just like, I'm
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  just Alan. I don't know. Oh, yes. They're in a lavender marriage. Oh, I got it. But then if you're
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  Mitch, you have to be like nine months pregnant. And if you guys go and have alcoholic beverages, the bartender
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  scheme, like, ma'am, I don't want to like tell you what to do with your body, but maybe don't. Yeah.
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  Well, you know, like a glass of wine is okay when you're pregnant. I've heard that towards the end,
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  you can have like one. No, no, you can. A glass of wine is okay. Like you're in there, not like
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  aggressively, but like one here and there's not bad. I feel like I like every five years,
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  when I check in on like the rules for mothers, the goal force keeps moving. I don't know. Yeah.
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  In the 70s, it's like, one cigarette a day won't kill you. Yeah, literally. You can take a shot
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  of barbeque and it's good for that lungs. It's good for that. You can't have deli meat, but you can
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  have a glass of wine. Yeah. Right. What is this prison? I love that. All right. What do you take for
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  Halloween? I am going to be in a joint costume with you Friday night. So we're being iconic,
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  like serial killers. So the plan is, yeah, but sletti, you know, a modern take. So I'm right now
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  planning to be ghost face. And you know, that might come into to conversation later. The only thing
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  that I didn't really think through is wearing a mask for the entire night. And while mask
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  figures can be quite sletti and quite, quite hot, I don't know if I'm literally
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  embodied them, the hot mask figure. So we might workshop it. There's two problems with you wearing
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  a mask all night. One, oh three, there's three problems. One, you're too pretty to hide that face all
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  night. Thank you. That's your money maker. We can't hide that. Two, it's, we live in Phoenix,
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  Arizona and you will literally be too hot. And three, if we go out on Halloween and you're wearing
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  a mask, you will not be able to make out with anybody if the feeling or situation was too arise.
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  Yeah, I doubt that, but, you know, it's a night of it. We're just heated it on yourself. And never say never.
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  Yeah. The other option I was thinking is jigsaw, because also iconic horror or the babbiduke,
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  because that is quite friggin scary. So let me babbiduke. Well, I will be able to look at you all night.
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  I know. I know. But it's like kind of a slay. That's right. Well, it's gonna be amazing. I'm just
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  gonna be cracking up all night. A bloody babbiduke. Yeah. So, so we're workshopping it. And then for night
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  two, the Saturday night, I really want to be Dr. Evil. So, what not I'm wearing a mask the other night,
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  I plan to wear a bold cap. So I think the, the likelihood of getting made out with is going
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  lower and lower each cost. But if somebody's really into that, okay, I just had a brilliant like,
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  light bulb moment. So night two, and I'm in that rocky horror costume that I'm kind of like,
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  I don't know if I'm gonna scare that first thing for too long. And if I want to make sure
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  I could meet up with you. And if you're Dr. Evil, I'll be Gold member.
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  Ooh, that's good because it works for both. Yes. Bung in a blitz. Like, but a pancake.
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  Shhh. Bung in a bung. Yeah. Yeah. Bung in a pancake.
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  Yeah. Somebody please come and be fat bastard. Like sexy fat bastard.
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  I think that's really hard to do. I think you would have to wear a mask. I think that's problematic
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  in the year of our 2020. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree. But it would be cute. It's like not
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  wearing the fat suit where you have like the little kil't. And you know, I'm workshopping it in my head.
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  But I really want to be. I really want to be Dr. Evil. I've wanted to be it for like the last three
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  years, but I can never find a last minute bold cap. I'm like, is everyone stealing my thunder
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  and wearing a bold cap? I don't know. Okay. We're going to find you a bulk cap this week. Like, there has to be
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  like spirit. Yeah. Just. Yeah. I haven't. I can order it. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
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  I want us all all three of us should try on bold caps someday just because I want to know what we all look
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  like. All. Yeah. I like that. I'll share mine. If I am, you know, next hang we can we can all put on
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  my bald cap. Ew. Why does that sound like not? You want to slip onto my bold cap? Again. I bet you
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  there's some type of porn about that. Yeah. If it's on the inner. There's porn of it. I'm putting it on the
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  Patreon. All three of us putting on Olivia's bold cap and then peeling it off of ourselves and then
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  putting it. I just slipped on Nicole. No, you guys can't see right now. Sean is literally literally
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  like acting putting it on like she's coming out of a birthing canal. I'm like, I'm like trying to
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  put a condom over my own head. I love that. It's so gross. So stay tuned for pictures of Dr. Evil and
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  his bald cap adventures. This is what happens if we go too long without recording. Is the
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  Davis get to get there? It just gets so staked. It's like the uh what is it? I don't know if you guys did
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  this and when you were in elementary school but flat Stanley where he would travel like across the
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  globe. It's like traveling. Traveling. You bald cap. This is traveling. The traveling bald cap.
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  I'll take it on trips with me. Yes. Yeah. On your job that we won't mention what it is. Please
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  just wear it one day. But don't tell me. It's okay. It's like social so people can find my social
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  flight attend. Wear it on a plane. Please. Oh my god. Oh my god. Don't be wearing it actually.
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  But act like nothing's happening. I will be like, hey guys. There's this girl who isn't allowed to
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  have pink hair at her work. So instead she wears like these absurdist wigs. They're like the old
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  parliamentary like English wigs. But they're in naturally existing colors. So she's like,
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  yeah, this counts. Yeah, but it's it's great fun. George Washington wigs. Wait, I have to mention
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  one thing because we out of Nicole as working as a flight attendant. And it reminds me of the last
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  Pete Davidson recently hosted SNL. And you did this sketch and it's about, oh fuck what was the guy's name?
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  The guy who pooped on the Delta flight. Have you heard about this Nicole? Oh my gosh. Yes.
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  That is not the airline I work for by the way. What's inside of you? Yes. Tell us about that.
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  Yes. What do you want to know? I don't know what you want. I don't work for it in the early year.
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  Yeah, true. But like what is like the protocol here? Like so if somebody, did you guys train for this?
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  I mean, yeah, it's a emergency landing. It's like you're up in the air and that happens. It's an
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  emergency landing. But I think you was boarding because it was down the aisle. So it would be an
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  emergency basically because it's a it's feces. So it's bio. You don't know what's exactly. Yeah,
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  so you have to clean it up and everybody has to get off and you would have to change aircrops. Oh my god.
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  Because that plane would have to like go out of service for a little bit and you would have to
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  clean it up and it would have to be like deep cleaned and everything like that. Oh, this poor guy.
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  You don't know what we have to go through training. Oh my god. He's walking down the aisle and he
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  gets diarrhea. And there's like videos and pictures of down the aisle like just. Oh yeah. The
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  driplets. The driplets. The driplets. Well, uh, you know, thank a Delta worker, I guess. Any
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  fighter. Delta workers today. Thank your local Delta worker. Thank you for your service.
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  You know, no, no, kind of battles they've seen today. You never know. You know, you really don't
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  honestly. I love it. But I love my new job. But it's the things you see. Yeah. This reminds me.
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  I love my job. We need to have like a flight themed episode. So like we can all watch airplay
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  or something. And then we'll talk about movies that take place on an airplane. Yeah. Oh, that's a good
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  one. Do you guys remember the mile high club the movie? I love Nicole's like, I don't want to go to work
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  anymore. Yeah. I'd be like, uh, no, the mile high club movie where, oh god, Snoop dogs in it. It's
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  like from the 2000s. Yes. Oh my god. Okay. That that movie would be worth a rewatch. It's so absurdist
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  and ridiculous. And it wouldn't scare Nicole to go to work every day. We do have a whole
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  episode dedicated to snakes on a plane. So shut up. Everybody wants to listen to that episode. I can't
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  I know. You know, Louise also really good. Oh my gosh. I can't think of it. But I thought it's not
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  called Captain, but it's one of Tom Hanks and he has to win in the Hudson. Oh, yeah. Captain Soli.
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  Yeah. Soli. Yes. Yeah. That is actually really good. And it makes me hopeful that if that ever
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  does happen to me, there's hope that I will survive. Yeah. And again, we are trained for those types of
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  situations. And I know exactly what to do, but still it's scary. That makes me feel better
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  uping on a plane. Nicole because I get a little nervous and I fly and I always like, I don't care
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  what time it is. I have a flight next week at like six in the morning. I'm gonna have a glass of
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  wine. Like, you're safe. You want to plane then you are in a car. Just saying. I know. And I always
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  tell myself, my husband told me so now it sticks with me. If the flight attendants aren't freaking out,
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  then I shouldn't. If there's a moment I try to never leave out, then that means I can lease my
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  shit. Yeah. But not you're good. You're good. Yeah. Love it. Well, pooping all, you know, we're gonna
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  take a quick break and we'll be back. If you can't tell by the day you're listening to this or our
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  recent discussion, this is going to be our Halloween episode for the pop culture junkies. Spooky.
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  If you can't tell, we're all big hands of hands of whole four.
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  No, that was perfect. Perfect. No notes. We are all fans of horror. Horror. Horror.
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  Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror.
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  Love. Horror. And so we really wanted to talk about the final girl phenomenon. So the final
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  girl is a character archetype in horror films mainly in slasher's. But she's been known as like the
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  last woman alive to confront the antagonist who's often frequently male and most of the time
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  emerges as victorious. Hence the final girl. Whenever I was doing research for this, I was really
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  interested to find that the term final girl really didn't come around until 1992. It's from the book
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  Men, Women and Chain Saws, Gender in the Modern Horror film by Carol J. Clover. And she really
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  could have first looked at this significance of the final girl in slasher film. So even if you've
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  never read the book, you've probably seen a lot of these characteristics in the 90s and 2000s horror
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  movies we saw. So if you guys had to put your finger on it, what would you say? The
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  characteristics of a final girl are in your mind. So when I think of the final girl, I guess
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  I'm shocked that it only came out in 1992 because I think of movies before that that had final
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  girls. But it makes sense that it wasn't like coined as a trope, I guess, until then. Yes.
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  Yeah. But the final girl is definitely not the for a lack of a better term quote slut in the movie.
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  Because a lot of these movies. Yeah, exactly. So it's like the Virgin Horde dichotomy and a lot of
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  culture, right? So you see that one girl who's, she when she goes to the cabin, she wants to sneak off
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  with Billy and make out and have sex in the woods. She's gonna die. Then there's the final girl.
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  And she she'd rather be reading a book. She's a little like mouseier, you know, she's a probably
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  at Virgin and she's going to be the final girl. So it's really that yeah, the Virgin Horde kind of,
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  and you know, it reminds me of like Jennifer's body. I remember in the movie, they need to like
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  sacrifice a Virgin. And then all they could find was Jennifer. And she definitely was it. So there's
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  been like a lot of play on that. But I feel like the the final girl always has some kind of
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  virginity about her. Yeah, like and I'm not like the other girls. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I think that it's interesting. There's like this virginal sweet like untouched, but
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  that a lot of the time they're like witnessing horror of like trauma. There's a better word here.
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  And like, you know, they've seen some shit. So they're like, oh, they're both virgins who are perfect
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  and untouched, but they've also seen some stuff. So you should feel bad for them. I think that's
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  something that you've already kind of seen like in-screen with her mother being dead and
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  all that. So yeah, I think that's that's a big one. I think one instance in my mind is in Halloween
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  where Laurie's walking home when they before she babysits and she's like, oh my god, I forgot my,
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  I forgot what book, science books, social studies book, whatever. And then the other girls are like,
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  oh my god, I forget my science book, my math book, this book every day, blah, blah, blah. Like, what's
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  the big deal? And it's like, there always the bookworm, the teacher's pet kind of person. They're always a good,
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  goodie person in the movie that always wants to be the perfect one in school and stuff like that.
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  Yeah. Yeah, they're like the rule follower. Like they're like respect authority. Yeah.
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  I think that's always such an interesting one. And then I do think it's interesting that she's always,
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  I mean, she's smart and she's resourceful. So in the beginning, she might seem super vulnerable
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  and screaming and running. But by the end, most final girls have some powerful final line right
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  before they shoot the bad guy or like sent him to his demise. Just like, I won't be fucked with that
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  final line. So it's like you can kind of see she's vulnerable in the beginning, kind of finds her
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  resourcefulness through the film. Well, everyone else certainly doesn't. She's surrounded by dumbasses,
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  pot heads and slacks. And then she, it's kind of like they all have that like iconic like
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  outro line, like they have in like CSI where it's like, you know, like he didn't know he was going to
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  get stabbed in the back. And it's always like some punchy one. Yeah, like something like that.
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  But yeah, they always have that like, you know, stereotypical zinger, right? And you know,
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  I think after a certain point, it became like people were looking for that where it's like,
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  oh, that's what people remember. So it got a little overplayed. Yeah. But yeah, it's been,
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  it's really interesting to see how it's kind of evolved over time. Exactly.
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  We'll kind of go through some iconic, you know, tropes over the years in the history of the final
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  girl. But yeah, I think she's always, you know, really had this virtual morality complex in the
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  beginning. And now like you mentioned with like a Jennifer's body, it's kind of like playing on
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  that and being like, well, why does that really matter? Exactly. I feel like in the beginning,
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  and a lot of these horror movies were directed by men. And you know, this is what society, you know,
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  expects of a woman is to be that virtual resourceful person. And it was kind of, if you are that girl
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  who sneaks into the woods to have sex, the guys are going to like that. But at the same point, you
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  probably deserve what the killer got you. You know, we never felt, you never feel that bad for the
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  girl who gets stabbed in the woods while she's having sex. Or you're not supposed to feel as bad
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  for her, you know, if you see her boobs, she's dead. Exactly. And she always has her top gets ripped
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  off. And they make fun of that, you know, in scary movie where she's running and her bra falls off.
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  And she's in the sprinklers and he stabs her in the breast and plants like it's I like how over
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  the years like that final girl has become more of like a feminist icon of where she can kick ass
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  and still have sex and still be herself. And yeah, you know what, she's smart enough to outlive
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  everybody. And that final girl trope has changed a little bit in that sometimes it's not a girl who's
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  the final girl. And a lot of these like I looked up lists of famous final girls and I found Daniel
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  Kuluya's character from get out. Right. And it's like a famous fucking final girl. Yeah. Which also
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  so hurts the trope of the black person dies first. And you know, yeah, unfortunately. Yeah. But yeah,
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  I feel like the final girl has evolved over time to be not so fit into those regimens of the male
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  gaze and what is this expected of women. Yeah, I really liked the hunt. Like I think it was a good
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  like example of in 2020. The main woman in it her name is Betty Giplin in real life. But she really
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  is imperfect. But you just know that she's like going to mess with people up. Yeah. And I think
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  she was complicated enough to where you were able to see that and you like her not being perfect
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  was actually like what made her live. So I think it's been really cool to see that celebration of
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  like gender or race and and all those things. Yeah. Absolutely. Love it. So I was really curious. Like
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  when did the final girl trope really begin? And so like early horror movies like Universal's
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  monster films or Hitchcock's Thriller's didn't strictly conform to the final girl. I think they were
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  a little too, you know, 1950s housewife to imagine that. But that's my personal opinion then. But they
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  did kind of set this groundwork for the survival theme where we really start to see the tropes
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  lilyfie is in the 1970s and 1980s with just slasher films in general. And so it's not necessarily the first
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  I'm to ever do it. But Texas Chainsaw Massacre came out in 1974 and it was a really early example of
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  that coming through with the woman living. Of course there's so many remakes with it. The
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  just could be all one is the one that I grew up on. But you see that I've never seen. Yeah. I've never
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  seen them. They're on my list like every October. Andrew and I have a list of horror movies that were
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  like, okay, we've never seen this and that's embarrassing. So I think Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I grew up in
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  Travis County, Texas, which is where Texas Chainsaw Massacre happens. I didn't realize that.
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  Yeah. So I forever was so fucking scared of this movie. I loved it though. I just watched it from the
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  time I was in like seventh grade. I used to watch it every year with my friend and like we still do it.
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  Like we'll be hanging out near Halloween where like Texas Chainsaw Massacre. But it is really good.
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  Technically like the real murders happened in I think Wisconsin or Michigan, but it's less sexy.
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  Wisconsin's Chainsaw Massacre. No. Yeah. Texas. There was like a copycat in Texas, but you know,
• 28:23
  that was that was a really interesting one of a real-ish story kind of adapted. And of course
• 28:30
  that was imitating real life. So that trope kind of came out of a true story so to speak.
• 28:37
  And then the next one, which I think a lot of people think of when they the final girl would be
• 28:42
  Laurie Strode from Halloween. So Jamie Lee Curtis's character, she's kind of credit is like the first and
• 28:49
  most iconic of the final girls. She's resourceful. She fights off and unseemingly unstoppable Michael Myers.
• 28:57
  I haven't seen the most recent movies, but I think she's still alive right Nicole. Yep.
• 29:03
  Yep. Yeah. The very last one. I won't spoil it if you want to watch it, but obviously she's still alive
• 29:10
  in the last one. But yeah, the one before. But yeah, she's been through a lot. She has. She's a queen.
• 29:18
  I love Jamie Lee Curtis. She's such an iconic screen queen. And I loved her in screen queens.
• 29:26
  Oh, she's so good. Didn't last very long, but she's so good.
• 29:31
  Like when I was Ryan Murphy thing season one was amazing and then subsequent seasons like no.
• 29:37
  So the next one, which is ironic that I haven't seen it because my birthday sometimes falls on
• 29:46
  this day, which is Friday the 13th, which it did this year. Love that. And I didn't do anything spooky
• 29:54
  because I was working, which I was sad, but that's okay. Working can be spooky sometimes. That's real. But
• 30:01
  that's okay. I had fun on my birthday at work. So Alice Hardy in who was played by Adrian King in
• 30:10
  Friday the 13th in 1980. She fights off the killer Pamela Borjes in the inaugural entry of the series.
• 30:20
  And then we have Nancy Thompson played by Heather Langan Camp in a nightmare on Elm Street in 1984.
• 30:27
  And Nancy stands out by Canferney Freddie Krueger in both Dreams and Reality.
• 30:33
  I loved nightmare on Elm Street. Like I think it's just one of the creepiest stories like to think like
• 30:43
  you can die in a dream. Yeah, like that's not something any of us could possibly
• 30:50
  not do. So if it's like, I don't know. I saw the original one and I know they've redone it since
• 30:56
  that a number of times, but I'm just thinking like, do you just chug coffee and energy drinks? You just
• 31:02
  do a ton of cocaine. Yeah, a lot of vitamins. You have to sleep eventually. Yeah, well, and it's
• 31:10
  and I was watching this thing, you know, it was like the original cases behind nightmare on Elm Street
• 31:18
  and like where the inspiration comes from. So it is based on a true story. And I want to say it was within
• 31:27
  gosh, I can't remember the exact place. I feel like it was like Vienta and Meese children or
• 31:33
  Filipino children who were kind of stuck in like a war torn area at the time. And they were
• 31:41
  rescuing these children, these orphans from the area and then, you know, bringing them to the
• 31:47
  United States. And this boy at the time was saying that he was so afraid to go to sleep and he couldn't
• 31:54
  go to sleep and they were going to get him and they were going to get him. And he died in his sleep
• 31:59
  of like a heart attack at like 13 years old. And so like this, this didn't just happen to like one
• 32:07
  child that happened to numerous and like to the point where they were like starting to report on it.
• 32:12
  It's like the crazy thing is happening. Yeah. And so he started to write about it. Like what's Craven
• 32:20
  wrote it into a story. The Craziness part about that is like if you stay awake for three plus days,
• 32:26
  like you go into psychosis as well. Yeah, he's hallucinating for sure. So at that point like,
• 32:31
  yeah, you're gonna like maybe imagine the things that you're gonna imagine it if it's not there.
• 32:37
  Yeah, exactly. And then, you know, really where we start to see the final girl turn on its head is with
• 32:47
  the iconic Sydney Prescott in scream. And so, you know, she is joined among people like she is
• 32:57
  survived with other people. So she's not the last girl standing, but she really does start to call
• 33:04
  it out. Of course, scream is known for its meta horror, but really within the 90s is where we saw
• 33:12
  that start to shift. Yeah, exactly. And I'm thinking of Jennifer Love Hewitt's character and I know
• 33:20
  what you did last summer. And I know we just recently watched that live, but I don't remember anyone else
• 33:25
  survived with her, honestly, which she the only person who survived. No, Freddie Prince Jr. survives too.
• 33:32
  You're right. So there's a final girl and a final boy. So a little twist on that too.
• 33:37
  Good. I love that. In the 2000s, we get films like your next in cabin in the woods, which I am obsessed
• 33:45
  with. I love cabin in the woods. And we were talking about this today as a final girl movie, which,
• 33:51
  you know, it kind of is spoilers for a wonderful movie, cabin in the woods. She does live to the very end,
• 33:58
  like the main girl that we're following. Then the entire planet is destroyed.
• 34:04
  Is she a final girl because we all kind of die? And you know what? It's funny. Like, I love her and
• 34:17
  she made a choice and it was between murdering that one guy and kind of murdering the entire world.
• 34:23
  Yeah. And you know, I think she made the wrong choice there. I would have killed that guy.
• 34:30
  But you know, they just kind of sit out there at the end and like I like share a joint in the world.
• 34:34
  And I was like, no, this is sick. I love this movie. So flips it on a tat again.
• 34:39
  I love that. I love that. That's amazing. Yeah. I think, you know, it's their movies that are really
• 34:48
  starting to subvert it like we said, like they're final boys in it. And we're really starting to
• 34:55
  kind of see this meta commentary or changing of the monsters of the villains moving away from
• 35:03
  slashes. But I think that will always kind of have this and this trope within horror because it is
• 35:11
  that symbol of like surviving trauma and you know, having agency and the ability to live within the
• 35:19
  the deepest darkest of horrors. But what I really want to know from you guys is what horror universe
• 35:27
  would you be a final girl in and why do you think that you would survive? Oh man. This one was hard
• 35:34
  because I went through a big list and I was like, I would die. I would totally die. I would
• 35:39
  fucking die. Like Freddie Kruber. Oh, I'm dead. I'm not. Yeah. So much. Like straight to death.
• 35:46
  Straight to bed. I'm gonna get my home to Mimi's anytime. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'm
• 35:52
  have asleep right now. I'm sleepy talking right now. Somebody is weak and burning me right now
• 36:02
  through this podcast. What I think I would survive in is mid-summer. So the main character Danny
• 36:11
  played by Florence Pue goes to Sweden, Ruele Sweden with her boyfriend who's a total fucking ass.
• 36:18
  And in the end, major spoilers for mid-summer because I know this one only came out four years ago or so.
• 36:25
  If you guys haven't seen it, it's incredible. It's one of those horror movies. It takes place in the
• 36:29
  middle of the day, which is always very unnerving. You expect shit and horror movies to go down
• 36:35
  nighttime. This one is sunny the entire time. She finds her boyfriend cheating on her. She gets
• 36:44
  crowned the May Queen dances around. She becomes clean of this celebration. She gets to choose if she
• 36:51
  wants a villager to die or if she wants her boyfriend to die. She chooses a boyfriend.
• 36:58
  And they got a bear, poor bear, by the way, that bear didn't do anything.
• 37:02
  What her boyfriend into a bear suit in the light of my fire. All of his asshole friends also
• 37:09
  die, which I'm here for. And I think I could survive this because her boyfriend in that movie
• 37:14
  just reminds me of my ex so bad. Danny in this movie is going through the biggest trauma of her
• 37:23
  life. In the beginning of the movie, both of her parents and her sister die. Her sister does
• 37:29
  like a murder suicide. Her whole family is dead. She's going through some murders. She's
• 37:34
  yeah. And her boyfriend is like, just, I'm sorry, you're sad. I'm just about good over it.
• 37:40
  Which is totally what my ex did when I was going through trauma similar to that. And we went on
• 37:48
  a vacation in the whole time. He's like, well, I heard you having more fun. And I should have burned
• 37:54
  that man alive in a bear suit. Oh, man. I agree. When you started to say mid-summer, I was like,
• 38:01
  is she really going to say, I would survive because my mom's already dead.
• 38:13
  Then you went there a little more delicately than me. But, yes, I have #deadmomclub with Danny
• 38:20
  from this movie. I also have a huge, a huge boyfriend. Maybe that's another final girl they all
• 38:27
  are moms are dead. All your parents are dead. Yeah, they are dead. That's the trauma.
• 38:39
  So yeah, and also the reason I would survive in mid-summer is I'm a wonderful dancer. She gets
• 38:44
  around like a mate queen because she dances in a circle longer than all the other bitches.
• 38:48
  Tell me to do that. See me in the club.
• 38:51
  Bottleful above, mama. Do you have a good sense of like equal liberty? I'm not because like that.
• 38:58
  That's that's what gets you in the dancing. You know, they get a little dizzy.
• 39:01
  I think I could do it. I think I could do like a good I got my double pure wet down or at least I did
• 39:08
  when I was 16. I have a stretch in a couple years. Let me stretch. Get me back with my abusive ex
• 39:17
  and take some drama mean. We're good. He's in a bear suit on the mate queen. We're done.
• 39:23
  Yeah, okay. I like that. I like that. I like it. I always, okay, so my brother had never seen
• 39:31
  mid-summer, but my cousin had a wedding that looked exactly like mid-summer. And I, later,
• 39:38
  I was like looking around and I was like, dude, we're getting mid-summer right now.
• 39:42
  I, my brother, come home from this wedding and I make him watch it and he just like looks over at me
• 39:49
  and he was like, dude, we did get mid-summer. And I was like, do we need to check like any of the
• 39:55
  pictures and see if there was like some pink wine that my cousin was drinking?
• 39:59
  Yeah, dude, everyone's standing in a circle and go, "Huh?"
• 40:02
  And I'd be falling in love. I wasn't there for that part, but who knows? I wasn't in the
• 40:09
  the bridal party. Then we could have had the bride's party.
• 40:12
  The bridal party, absolutely, but what about you guys?
• 40:16
  It took me minutes to think about this as well. I feel like I'm like a horror queen,
• 40:23
  but then I'm like, I haven't really seen many horror movies.
• 40:27
  You're like, "I like what I like. I like my university."
• 40:29
  Yeah, I get there too.
• 40:30
  So out of the ones that I've watched, I'm like, I feel like I could survive Halloween.
• 40:36
  I feel like I could survive Michael.
• 40:38
  Yeah.
• 40:38
  And I say that.
• 40:41
  Yeah, it's exactly. My guy is slow.
• 40:45
  She's open, or she's a check star.
• 40:49
  Yeah.
• 40:50
  Oh my gosh, but I feel like I kind of have some hilarities to Laurie.
• 40:57
  Okay.
• 40:57
  I would be the one that would be like, "Oh my gosh, I forgot my book."
• 41:01
  I wasn't like a nerd.
• 41:03
  But I would be like freaking out if I missed a homework assignment because I, again,
• 41:08
  wasn't a nerd, but I cared about my grades.
• 41:10
  Kind of good.
• 41:11
  Nerd.
• 41:11
  Yeah, so I just...
• 41:13
  Yeah.
• 41:15
  You could call me a nerd, it's okay.
• 41:16
  I didn't babysit though growing up, but we could throw that in there.
• 41:21
  That's fine.
• 41:21
  I did it was all.
• 41:22
  I was like, I was a goody goody.
• 41:26
  I was like, "That's a good thing."
• 41:27
  Yeah.
• 41:28
  Didn't do anything.
• 41:29
  Didn't go out, didn't party, didn't do anything.
• 41:32
  It's just a household I grew up and I was too scared to do anything.
• 41:36
  Yeah.
• 41:36
  That's where we're not married.
• 41:38
  But yeah, I grew up in Illinois too, so I mean, that's that.
• 41:44
  I wasn't in...
• 41:45
  Where was yet hadn't field?
• 41:46
  I think it was at Illinois.
• 41:47
  Yeah.
• 41:48
  Yeah.
• 41:49
  So I grew up in Illinois, so that's a similarity.
• 41:51
  But yeah, my man's is so low.
• 41:55
  Yeah, I'm like, Nicole's got feats.
• 41:57
  Listen, Nicole, be going up and down that aisle of the airplane, pushing that hard.
• 42:01
  I would.
• 42:02
  She got feats.
• 42:03
  I would.
• 42:05
  And too, I'm like, out of all of these murderers or scary people,
• 42:11
  I don't get why you just don't take a knife or something or...
• 42:14
  trigger warning gun.
• 42:17
  I said, you would ever shot him in the head.
• 42:20
  Yeah.
• 42:21
  That's what I'm saying.
• 42:22
  Well...
• 42:24
  But I don't know, I don't really remember the last movie very much.
• 42:26
  It's show him this man.
• 42:28
  I thought I remember when I did last week.
• 42:29
  But oh my gosh.
• 42:33
  Like, yeah, shoot him in the head or just like the head him.
• 42:36
  Like, come on.
• 42:37
  What are we doing people?
• 42:38
  Like, that's what I would do.
• 42:40
  Because again, my man's is so low.
• 42:42
  I feel like he has to have like, zone the roles, you know?
• 42:47
  Like...
• 42:48
  I wasn't gonna say that, but he dies in the last one,
• 42:51
  but I wasn't gonna spoil it.
• 42:52
  But why did they do that shit 40 years ago?
• 42:55
  They should have shot him in the head.
• 42:57
  Listen, I am not team shoot people in the head.
• 43:00
  Generally, as in general...
• 43:02
  Unless he tries to kill me then.
• 43:04
  Self-defense queen.
• 43:05
  That's a good chance.
• 43:07
  That's a good chance.
• 43:08
  That's a good chance.
• 43:09
  Thank you.
• 43:09
  As in general, there's one thing you need to know about
• 43:13
  Shana Tridad, it's that I don't condone.
• 43:15
  Usually shooting mid in the head.
• 43:18
  Unless they really deserve it.
• 43:21
  I accept you just said you would kill that,
• 43:26
  that mofo and a bear suit.
• 43:27
  Like, you know, I think she is.
• 43:30
  She's a man in the head is different than
• 43:31
  paralyze him alive.
• 43:35
  The use of X and just...
• 43:36
  She was in him as a sacrifice to...
• 43:38
  And just burning him alive in a bear suit.
• 43:40
  Okay, let's go do now.
• 43:41
  Let's go to know we have a discussion.
• 43:43
  Team or bear suit burn.
• 43:46
  Yeah, bear suit burn.
• 43:48
  The bear to end is a...
• 43:49
  Self-defense.
• 43:52
  Self-defense.
• 43:53
  Yeah, I like it.
• 43:55
  I like it.
• 43:56
  I think that you would survive.
• 43:58
  What would be your weapon?
• 44:00
  Obviously, we just talked about that one, but...
• 44:02
  Airmanal.
• 44:03
  Playing cards.
• 44:03
  Your mouth?
• 44:05
  Yeah, my words.
• 44:08
  Girl, what that mouth is to rise, Nicole?
• 44:12
  What that mouth's to?
• 44:13
  Fucking kill you.
• 44:14
  No.
• 44:18
  My weapon of choice would be...
• 44:20
  As graphic as it is, probably a gun.
• 44:23
  I mean, that's like...
• 44:25
  Yeah.
• 44:25
  The worst that I can do.
• 44:26
  The worst that I can do.
• 44:27
  I mean...
• 44:27
  Yeah.
• 44:29
  It's worked for 200 years.
• 44:31
  Let's try it.
• 44:32
  Let's gonna say there's a reason it fucking kills so many people.
• 44:35
  It goes like fucking...
• 44:36
  He has a knife in it.
• 44:37
  Or like...
• 44:38
  A knife, like...
• 44:40
  It takes like...
• 44:41
  I brought this somewhere.
• 44:42
  I forgot like the actual wording of this,
• 44:43
  but like if you're six feet away from someone with a knife,
• 44:46
  that's like the closest or something that I could take for it to kill you.
• 44:51
  Yeah, they could just like grab it from you.
• 44:54
  The distance.
• 44:54
  Yeah.
• 44:54
  Don't bring a knife to a gun.
• 44:56
  So like...
• 44:57
  Yeah.
• 44:57
  Anchorman?
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 44:59
  You know what I just thought?
• 45:01
  Well, you were trying to think of your weapon and you said your mouth
• 45:05
  before we get to lose.
• 45:06
  There's another great...
• 45:08
  Circulate back to Nicole's mouth.
• 45:11
  Circulate back to that.
• 45:14
  There's another great final girl maybe.
• 45:17
  I came out in 2007 called teeth.
• 45:19
  Have you guys seen this thing?
• 45:21
  Yes.
• 45:21
  Nicole.
• 45:23
  Nicole.
• 45:24
  So...
• 45:24
  Am I...
• 45:27
  And I watched this video.
• 45:28
  I can't have a watch match.
• 45:29
  Listen.
• 45:31
  Please watch this.
• 45:33
  Feminist baby.
• 45:34
  So when I first started dating Andrew, we watched this together and I don't think we had sex for like...
• 45:40
  I'm like a month after.
• 45:43
  Yeah.
• 45:44
  So it's this girl...
• 45:45
  Basically a very quick plot.
• 45:50
  She is a teenage spoke person for a Christian abstinence group.
• 45:55
  Preaches abstinence and gets a purity ring.
• 45:58
  All that stuff.
• 45:59
  She loses her virginity for the first time.
• 46:01
  Or I think she maybe it's through sexual assault.
• 46:04
  I feel like I can get to know this is going.
• 46:07
  Yeah.
• 46:07
  She gets assaulted and she is teeth.
• 46:09
  Her vagina has teeth in her.
• 46:11
  And...
• 46:12
  Okay, not where I thought it was going.
• 46:14
  Yeah.
• 46:15
  And her vagina, anyone who assaults her like if the dick is there against her will,
• 46:23
  her vagina bites it off.
• 46:24
  Yeah.
• 46:25
  And then...
• 46:26
  And then it's...
• 46:26
  And then it's...
• 46:27
  What a weapon a dog.
• 46:28
  And then a dog eats it.
• 46:29
  It is.
• 46:33
  That's probably...
• 46:33
  That's a good weapon.
• 46:34
  That's a good weapon.
• 46:35
  Yeah, don't watch this around your boyfriend, but it is such a fun movie.
• 46:40
  Watch it around him just so he knows what's up.
• 46:42
  So he just knows what's up.
• 46:45
  Um, no, it is one of the funniest movies to watch with a man now.
• 46:49
  You know, beware the consequences like Sean has said, but it is one of the funniest
• 46:55
  squirming moments for men.
• 46:57
  And I think it's great fun to turn it on in front of them.
• 47:00
  If you were a assaulted woman, you deserve to get your dick bit off and spin out in front of a person.
• 47:05
  Yeah.
• 47:05
  And burn to a bear suit.
• 47:08
  And burn to a bear suit and Sean the head.
• 47:11
  Yeah.
• 47:13
  Yeah, don't hurt any of us apparently.
• 47:16
  Or please don't use this as evidence.
• 47:19
  We are joking.
• 47:20
  Hi, Nicole's new boyfriend.
• 47:23
  Hi.
• 47:23
  I love this.
• 47:27
  I love this.
• 47:27
  What are you surviving and why is it the movie teeth?
• 47:31
  No, it was a good one.
• 47:33
  Teeth was a good one.
• 47:35
  Um, I was really ultimately...
• 47:37
  I think I would survive in a few of them, but they're kind of the more absurd of the
• 47:41
  universe is.
• 47:43
  So I was really between two, Sean of the dead.
• 47:46
  I have a good record collection.
• 47:47
  I could just toss those.
• 47:49
  I got a re-offering bar.
• 47:51
  You know, I've got all of those boxes checked.
• 47:54
  I could totally do that.
• 47:55
  We're just heading back to the casual pint for a good pint.
• 47:58
  Yes, yeah.
• 47:59
  There are a lot of windows in there.
• 48:01
  So unfortunately, you know, that might not work out.
• 48:04
  But I ultimately landed on
• 48:07
  screen and there is no replacement for Sydney Prescott.
• 48:11
  But if there's one thing about Ghostface is that Mofo
• 48:15
  is going to be clumsy.
• 48:17
  He's gonna fall.
• 48:19
  He's gonna do a little trippy and you know what?
• 48:22
  I think that I could get away.
• 48:23
  Well, I think that I could get away in time.
• 48:25
  At least put enough obstacles in its place.
• 48:29
  I also love horror movies if you can't tell.
• 48:33
  So I do think that I would at least make it to the second one.
• 48:37
  You know, I would be more of like the it's Steve.
• 48:39
  I would get in there.
• 48:41
  I could see you lasting a while in like the apocalypse too.
• 48:45
  I could see that.
• 48:46
  Oh, thank you.
• 48:47
  Thank you.
• 48:47
  So you're saying my apocalypse car was best?
• 48:53
  I'm not saying that.
• 48:55
  You'd be the only survivor.
• 48:58
  Yeah.
• 48:59
  You're like it.
• 49:00
  I like it.
• 49:00
  Yeah, there we go.
• 49:01
  There we go.
• 49:02
  And you know, if you're a shot of the dead,
• 49:04
  then I'm his zombie best friend that you keep changing up.
• 49:07
  In the garage.
• 49:09
  Yeah, I think so.
• 49:10
  Because I'm absolutely being a zombie.
• 49:12
  Like a shot of yeah, yeah.
• 49:17
  Yeah, yeah, good job.
• 49:19
  Yeah.
• 49:19
  Yeah, so you know, really I think it would be good fun.
• 49:25
  I also love a creative lock on a door.
• 49:29
  So I think that you know, I would I would survive.
• 49:32
  I love that.
• 49:33
  I see survival instincts in each of us.
• 49:35
  We're resourceful.
• 49:36
  We're sassy.
• 49:37
  Because you are our sexuality and our mouths.
• 49:42
  Our mouths and our vagina dintada seconds.
• 49:47
  Yeah, yeah.
• 49:48
  Also, the other thing in the screen one is like color ID exists now.
• 49:53
  And like I could just block your number.
• 49:54
  And like, you know, you know, that's a big one.
• 49:59
  I love it.
• 50:00
  I love it.
• 50:01
  Well, one thing that I wanted to say before we wrap up this
• 50:06
  horror Halloween episode is have you guys seen Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey?
• 50:13
  I haven't.
• 50:15
  But you told me spoiler.
• 50:16
  Now I don't know if I want to watch it.
• 50:18
  It was literally in the first one minute of the movie.
• 50:21
  So what's it on?
• 50:23
  It's on peacock.
• 50:26
  So definitely worth a watch.
• 50:28
  I also saw it's funny.
• 50:31
  It's terrible.
• 50:33
  It's a terrible movie.
• 50:34
  But it's worth the watch.
• 50:35
  Another one, the other two that I'm going to watch before this spooky season ends
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  is the slothening.
• 50:44
  I think I watched the slothening.
• 50:46
  Okay, you can come over and watch it.
• 50:48
  Yeah, yeah.
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  I think it's on Hulu or Prime.
• 50:51
  I can't remember.
• 50:52
  But the other one that I am dying to watch is the Velasa pastor.
• 50:56
  Oh my god, yes, please.
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  Please, can we do that for my Christian trauma?
• 51:04
  Yes, yes.
• 51:06
  Yes, so the Velasa pastor is this guy like can turn into a Velasa raptor.
• 51:12
  And he's like fighting Satan.
• 51:14
  Yeah, and he's like fighting Satan.
• 51:16
  So yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
• 51:19
  Yeah, what have we watched so far?
• 51:20
  We watched Totally Killer, which had a lot of plot holes and you had to kind of,
• 51:26
  I don't know.
• 51:28
  It did make a lot of sense.
• 51:29
  Just texted me about that and was like, you should watch it.
• 51:31
  It was enjoyable.
• 51:33
  I enjoyed myself.
• 51:35
  You have just his spedus belief a lot, but it was it was a good time.
• 51:38
  He texted me and said, I think you would enjoy this.
• 51:41
  I think you would enjoy it too.
• 51:43
  Then he's saying that I'm stupid.
• 51:45
  I told you, you would like this.
• 51:48
  It's so really dumb.
• 51:49
  I would though, as I finished the episode saying,
• 51:54
  hey, I'm going to watch you should watch Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey.
• 51:58
  Well, lots of faster.
• 51:59
  So expect to be.
• 52:01
  Okay, so I'm going to go now so I can make dinner and watch his
• 52:06
  caring movie by myself.
• 52:07
  Yeah, because my house has been so.
• 52:09
  Yeah, well, I watched you guys the entire time.
• 52:11
  Yeah, well, that about wraps up this episode of Pop Culture Junkie.
• 52:16
  But before we take that final long look at the camera and say something cheeky,
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  Nicole and Shauna are working.
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• 52:27
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• 52:32
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• 52:43
  the Instagram Twitter knockoff, but I don't ever use it. So let's just do Instagram and Tik Tok
• 52:49
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• 52:57
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  I need it bad, I need it bad.
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  Cause I need it bad, I need it bad.
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