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Weird and Freaky: Seven Crazy Close Encounters of the Second Kind · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for joining me. We've got a very special
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Speaker 1: and unusual episode for you today. I'm covering a topic
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Speaker 1: I have only rarely covered, which is close encounters of
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Speaker 1: the second kind. These are cases that affect the environment
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Speaker 1: or the witness in some way. The title of today's
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Speaker 1: episode is Weird and Freaky Seven crazy close encounters of
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Speaker 1: the second kind. The seven cases I have for you
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Speaker 1: today come from all over the world, mostly Europe and
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Speaker 1: the United States, including England, France, Germany, and in the
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Speaker 1: US California, Illinois, Iowa, and Wyoming. There are a lot
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Speaker 1: of witnesses in this episode. We're talking thirty, maybe forty
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Speaker 1: or more, and of course the four major types of
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Speaker 1: evidence that we often see associated with close encounters, including
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Speaker 1: electromagnetic disturbances, animal reactions, lanting traces, and physiological effects. These
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Speaker 1: are some really unusual encounters, sort of on the bizarre
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Speaker 1: end of the spectrum, which is why I chose them.
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Speaker 1: I sometimes think that high strangeness in UFO encounters is
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Speaker 1: an intentional aspect sort of put forth by the UFO
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Speaker 1: occupants to encourage us to think outside of the box,
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Speaker 1: consider new paradigms, new ways of thinking. But let's just
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Speaker 1: get to the cases and see what we have for
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Speaker 1: you today. So the first case I'd like to cover
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Speaker 1: today is very unusual. I call this one the Glowing Cloud.
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Speaker 1: This one took place on May seven, nineteen eighty, in Anderson, California.
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Speaker 1: It's a multiple in this case and really really on unusual.
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Speaker 1: This very unusual case comes from researcher William M. Murphy,
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Speaker 1: Senior of Reading, California. He worked with another researcher who
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Speaker 1: actually requested anonymity. But this case first appeared in the
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Speaker 1: June nineteen eighty issue of the Apro Bulletin in an
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Speaker 1: article titled CE three in California. It's a multiple witness case,
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Speaker 1: but the primary witness, the only adult, is Elizabeth Riley,
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Speaker 1: was around nine fifty PM on May seventh, nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth was with her two daughters, ages fifteen and sixteen,
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Speaker 1: and their friend. Elizabeth was driving at thirty miles per
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Speaker 1: hour heading south on Airport Road, about one mile north
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Speaker 1: of the Sacramento River and adjacent to the Reading Airport.
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Speaker 1: The radio was on, there was a truck right in
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Speaker 1: front of them on the road, and this was a
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Speaker 1: route that they had traveled many times, but this time
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Speaker 1: something very weird and wreaky happened. As they rounded a
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Speaker 1: slight curve in the road, they saw what appeared to
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Speaker 1: be a huge glowing cloud coming up out of the
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Speaker 1: river and moving towards them. This glowing cloud was so
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Speaker 1: big that it covered the whole horizon to the south,
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Speaker 1: all the way in front of them, So Elizabeth's first
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Speaker 1: thought was, Dear God, has an atomic bomb gone off.
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Speaker 1: By this time, the cloud was totally in front of them,
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Speaker 1: and Elizabeth realized that this quote cloud was actually moving
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Speaker 1: against a strong north wind. It seemed to her as
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Speaker 1: though this cloud rose out of the water. How she
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Speaker 1: described it was like a huge closed fist, and then
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Speaker 1: it opened up as they approached it. It was white
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Speaker 1: at first, but then it turned yellow and then had
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Speaker 1: a slight green outline to it. The truck ahead of
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Speaker 1: them on the road entered the cloud first, and Elizabeth
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Speaker 1: felt as though her car was sort of drifting into
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Speaker 1: the cloud, That's how she put it. Once they were
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Speaker 1: inside this cloud, they felt as if the car was
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Speaker 1: quote floating, and they seemed to black out for a moment,
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Speaker 1: the radio went silent. The light inside the cloud was
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Speaker 1: so bright that Elizabeth couldn't steer. She wondered if her
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Speaker 1: headlights had gone out or if they were just overwhelmed
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Speaker 1: by the extreme brightness within this cloud. She said it
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Speaker 1: was the brightest light she had ever experienced in her
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Speaker 1: entire life. Inside the cloud, they also all experienced in
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Speaker 1: eerie silence, and they were inside this thing for what
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Speaker 1: seemed like just a few seconds, when suddenly they quote
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Speaker 1: came too, and they were about one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: feet from where they had entered this weird cloud and
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Speaker 1: popped out on the other side of it. But none
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Speaker 1: of them actually remembered egniting the cloud. They were just
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Speaker 1: suddenly out of it. The radio immediately began playing again,
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Speaker 1: and weirdly, the truck ahead of them was now gone.
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Speaker 1: They also all experienced a strange feeling of peace, calm,
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Speaker 1: and Reverie. Now very curious naturally about what had just happened.
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth pulled a quick u turn to look for the
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Speaker 1: weird cloud, but there was no sign of it, which
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Speaker 1: seemed impossible. She drove about three hundred feet and not
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Speaker 1: seeing anything, she pulled another U turn and continued the
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Speaker 1: drive to their destination, which was a friend's house not
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Speaker 1: too far away. But all were now extremely thirsty, so
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Speaker 1: they made a quick stop at a restaurant and got
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Speaker 1: four sodas to go. As they continued the drive, Elizabeth's
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Speaker 1: daughter's friend screamed and quote freaked out. She said she
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Speaker 1: saw a wolfman like face peering at her through the
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Speaker 1: car window. When they arrived at their destination, they were
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Speaker 1: now shocked to realize that it was thirty or even
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Speaker 1: forty minutes later than it should have been. This was
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Speaker 1: immediately obvious to them as the TV was playing a
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Speaker 1: program that shouldn't have been on that soon, but none
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Speaker 1: had any memory of what might have happened during this
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Speaker 1: thirty or forty minutes of missing time. This incident, all
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Speaker 1: four of them experienced light sensitivity for one or two
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Speaker 1: days afterward, was bad enough that Elizabeth found reading impossible
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Speaker 1: and her light sensitivity persisted for a full week, and
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Speaker 1: there were other weird after effects. Both of Elizabeth's daughters
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Speaker 1: experienced nightmares that were very similar in detail, involving a
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Speaker 1: wolfman like face like their friend had seen. All three
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Speaker 1: girls had minor puncture wounds surrounded by a really minor
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Speaker 1: burn mark on their bodies that, of course weren't there
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Speaker 1: prior to the encounter. One girl found it behind her ear,
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Speaker 1: another on her spine just above the waist, and the
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Speaker 1: third had no pin mark but just a slight burn
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Speaker 1: on her arm. All of these healed very rapidly. They
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Speaker 1: did go to a doctor, and the doctor found them
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Speaker 1: to be in good health, but he did note that
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Speaker 1: the marks were quote unusual and unexplained. Following this incident,
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Speaker 1: Elizabeth had her car checked and found that the battery
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Speaker 1: was quote bone dry. Another weird effect. One of the
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Speaker 1: daughters wore a wristwatch, and following this encounter, it was
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Speaker 1: almost an hour slow and the high strangeness continued. Shortly
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Speaker 1: following the encounter, there was a very loud banging noise
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Speaker 1: on the side of the house that woke everyone up
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Speaker 1: in the house. They never were able to find out
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Speaker 1: what caused that banging noise, but they did feel it
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Speaker 1: was somehow related to their encounter. Over time, all these
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Speaker 1: weird after effects stopped and the family's life returned to normal.
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Speaker 1: They are not interested in seeking hypnosis, but they do
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Speaker 1: hope that one day their memories of the missing time
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Speaker 1: will return naturally. So this case is essentially a sighting,
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Speaker 1: which would be a close encounter of the first kind.
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Speaker 1: But we can call it a close encounter of the
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Speaker 1: second kind due to the fact that it did affect
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Speaker 1: the witnesses and that they were very thirsty following the encounter. Also,
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Speaker 1: there were the strange marks on their body. Is susp
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Speaker 1: effect due to the missing time that this was probably
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Speaker 1: an onboard encounter, which would of course make it a
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Speaker 1: close encounter of the fourth kind. So very hard sometimes
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Speaker 1: to categorize cases, and this one I think has a
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Speaker 1: lot more information to it. I can understand why the
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Speaker 1: witnesses did not want to go under hypnosis, so apparently
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Speaker 1: what happened during this missing time we don't know, and probably, yeah,
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Speaker 1: an onboard encounter. Now let's move to the next one.
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Speaker 1: This one is again really unusual. It's a very rare
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Speaker 1: and special category of UFO encounters, one that I have
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Speaker 1: a great interest in because I've studied them extensively, and
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Speaker 1: I have more to say about it at the end
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Speaker 1: of this segment, but let's get to it. I call
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Speaker 1: this one levitated by a UFO. This one occurred in
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, outside the small village of fuge V, France.
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Speaker 1: This case comes from French investigator Jean Louis Forrest. The
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Speaker 1: witness is anonymous, but he's an excellent witness. A technician
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Speaker 1: employed in the arsenal of the French Navy at Toulon, France.
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Speaker 1: Because of his job, he regularly made a long car
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Speaker 1: journey between Nice and Toulon. It was one night in
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy one, around one point thirty a m. He
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Speaker 1: was driving his Citrouin vehicle from Nice to Toulon along
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Speaker 1: National Highway ninety seven. He had just exited the town
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Speaker 1: of Puget v and was heading toward Cours and was
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Speaker 1: listening to the radio when suddenly the radio mysteriously filled
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Speaker 1: with static and then completely died. Thinking it had broken,
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Speaker 1: he just turned it off. He was now on a
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Speaker 1: straightaway just over one mile north of the Corps military airfield.
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Speaker 1: There were no other cars around him, though generally this
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Speaker 1: highway is pretty busy, and this is when he saw
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Speaker 1: a large globe gowing orange sphere ahead of him above
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Speaker 1: the road. Now being near an airfield, he at first
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Speaker 1: assumed that there must be some kind of air force
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Speaker 1: night exercise taking place. But then, weirdly and mysteriously, his
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Speaker 1: engine began to missfire, and he noticed that his car
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Speaker 1: was slowing down. He put his foot on the accelerator,
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Speaker 1: but still his car continued to slow down, and this
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Speaker 1: quote orange ball grew larger and closer, until soon it
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Speaker 1: was about one hundred and sixty five feet in front
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Speaker 1: of him, right over the road. He wondered now if
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Speaker 1: perhaps an aircraft was having trouble and was going to
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Speaker 1: land on the road instead of on the runway. Now panicking,
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Speaker 1: he slammed on the brakes, but they didn't seem to work,
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Speaker 1: and it appeared to him now that his engine wasn't
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Speaker 1: working at all, And he soon realized that he had
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Speaker 1: bigger problems because, looking out of the windshield, he saw
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Speaker 1: that his car was no longer on the road, but
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Speaker 1: was actually levitating above it. This orange sphere was now
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Speaker 1: about fifty to sixty five feet ahead of him and
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Speaker 1: was illuminating the road below it and the interior of
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Speaker 1: his car. He could clearly see that his car was
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Speaker 1: not touching the road, was anywhere from ten to twenty
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Speaker 1: feet above it, and at this point an eerie silence
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Speaker 1: reigned over the environment. This happened for only moments, when
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Speaker 1: suddenly the orange light went out and the car now
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Speaker 1: fell heavily onto the street. The witness that he felt
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Speaker 1: quote groggy. After orienting himself and making sure he was uninjured,
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Speaker 1: he exited the car and got a shock. He saw
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Speaker 1: that the car was pretty badly damaged. The spare tire,
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Speaker 1: which had been located under the hood, came loose from
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Speaker 1: its moorings, burst the hood open, and was now lying
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Speaker 1: on the street a short distance away. The driver's seat
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Speaker 1: was collapsed, the back seat was twisted up, and the
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Speaker 1: car itself was partially flattened to some degree and was
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Speaker 1: now sitting at an ankle to the road. Moments later,
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Speaker 1: other cars appeared and stopped to help and ask the
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Speaker 1: witness what happened, but the witness did not know what
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Speaker 1: to tell them. This road at this point was perfectly straight,
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Speaker 1: so there didn't seem any explanation for how this could
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Speaker 1: have happened. Finally, he did get another driver to tow him,
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Speaker 1: and he was able to get the car started and
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Speaker 1: drove very slowly to his destination of Toulon arriving home,
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Speaker 1: he got another tremendous shock because it was now six
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Speaker 1: a m. Even taking into account the accident and the
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Speaker 1: time it took him to get some help and his
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Speaker 1: slow drive to his destination, he should have arrived no
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Speaker 1: later than three thirty am, which meant that he was
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Speaker 1: missing about three hours of time. The weird part was
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Speaker 1: where was the witness for these three hours, Because if
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Speaker 1: he was on the road, which again was fairly busy,
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Speaker 1: other people should have seen him. But nobody saw his car,
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Speaker 1: not in the air, nobody saw it drop to the street,
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Speaker 1: nobody reported seeing the UFO, And as researcher Jean Louis writes,
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Speaker 1: then both the man and the car must have been
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Speaker 1: taken off to somewhere else for several hours, after which
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Speaker 1: someone has returned them and put them down there again.
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Speaker 1: This is the only possible explanation. During his interview with
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Speaker 1: the witness, the witness agreed with this, and he said
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Speaker 1: that he has no memory of what happened during the
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Speaker 1: missing three hours. The investigator suggested that the witness attempt
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Speaker 1: regressive hypnosis, and at first the witness enthusiastically agreed, but
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Speaker 1: as he continued to think about it, he became afraid
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Speaker 1: of what he might remember and he backed out, so
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Speaker 1: what happened during the missing time remains a mystery. So
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Speaker 1: here we have a sighting that clearly became something much
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Speaker 1: more than a simple sighting, given that it this UFO
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Speaker 1: levitated this man's car off of the highway and resulted
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Speaker 1: in missing time and some pretty severe damage to his vehicle.
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Speaker 1: I have huge respect for Jaylon Heinek and his system
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Speaker 1: of categorizing UFO counters as close encounters of the first, second,
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Speaker 1: and third kind and so forth, was really useful at
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Speaker 1: the time. But how would you categorize a case like this.
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Speaker 1: It does appear that he probably was taken on board
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Speaker 1: he pulled out of going under hypnosis, so we really
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Speaker 1: don't know. But what's really fascinating to me about this
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Speaker 1: case is I did a whole episode on what we
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Speaker 1: call UFO car lift cases, so there's quite a few
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Speaker 1: of them taking place all over the world. I didn't
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Speaker 1: include this one because I didn't know about it, but
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Speaker 1: this fits in very neatly with this very special and
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Speaker 1: unique category of cases. So unusual, all right, Moving along,
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Speaker 1: this next case I call a shocking UFO. This one
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Speaker 1: involves multiple witnesses, land traces, animal reactions, physiological effects. It's
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Speaker 1: very unusual. This one took place on December twenty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, outside of Darmstadt, Illinois, also in New Athens, Illinois.
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Speaker 1: It's actually a series of events began with a simple
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Speaker 1: sighting and escalated as this UFO apparently followed the witness's home.
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Speaker 1: These case first appeared in the May nineteen seventy five
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Speaker 1: issue of Skylook under the title Illinois Youth's Report Strange Effects.
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Speaker 1: The encounter began around eleven thirty pm on December twenty first,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four, as Kim Lloyd drove from Darmstadt, Illinois
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Speaker 1: to New Athens. Along with her were her two friends,
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Speaker 1: brothers Jeff and Rodney Walta. They were about four miles
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Speaker 1: west of Darmstat. The night sky was suddenly illuminated by
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Speaker 1: a mysterious bright light. Rodney was the first to see
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Speaker 1: the object, and they all saw it a brightly lit
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Speaker 1: disc shaped craft which was descending lower and lower. All
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Speaker 1: three of them watched as this craft continued to descend.
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Speaker 1: They estimated that it was about thirty feet in diameter,
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Speaker 1: with rotating red and yellow lights around the edge of
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Speaker 1: the saucer and portholes around the dome. Two bluish antennae
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Speaker 1: came out of either side of the dome. The object
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Speaker 1: continued to descend, finally disappearing behind the trees about one
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Speaker 1: thousand feet off to the side of the road. Now
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Speaker 1: convinced that this craft had landed, the witnesses began to
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Speaker 1: crisscross the area on every road near where they had
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Speaker 1: seen this craft come down, But after about forty minutes
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Speaker 1: of searching and finding no trace of it, they continued
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Speaker 1: on their way to New Athens. Reaching their destination. They
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Speaker 1: now convinced some of their friends to return to the
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Speaker 1: site and they searched again for this craft. Unfortunately, their
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Speaker 1: friends became and left, but Kim, Rodney and Jeff remained.
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Speaker 1: They pulled off at an intersection facing north with the
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Speaker 1: Darmstadt Road in front of them and their patients was
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Speaker 1: rewarded when around four a m. Now, of course December
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Speaker 1: twenty second, they saw a starlike light appear which began gyrating,
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Speaker 1: hopping around, then descending and sending down beams of light.
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Speaker 1: They said it changed colors from white to green and red,
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Speaker 1: and then leveled off about fifty feet above the trees,
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Speaker 1: and they estimate one mile away. It started to move closer,
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Speaker 1: sending down this beam of light, which became kind of broken,
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Speaker 1: never quite reaching the ground. Kim and the other two
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Speaker 1: then drove west on Darmstadt Road towards Route thirteen, at
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Speaker 1: which point the object changed course and appeared to follow them.
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Speaker 1: The object now moved closer, close enough that they could
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Speaker 1: see it was sort of pie shaped, with a bottom
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Speaker 1: row of yellow lights and an upper row of red lights.
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Speaker 1: As the three witnesses got close to Root thirteen, they
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Speaker 1: saw that this object was hovering over what appeared to
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Speaker 1: be a sort of landed cylindrical shaped object on the ground,
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Speaker 1: and this object on the ground was pulsating with an
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Speaker 1: orange glow on the front half and a green glow
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Speaker 1: on the back half. But they continued driving and went
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Speaker 1: north on Root thirteen and lost sight of these objects.
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Speaker 1: They soon arrived at Rodney Walta's home, and this is
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Speaker 1: when things started to get really weird, because Rodney said
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Speaker 1: that he felt certain that the object was going to
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Speaker 1: appear over their house, that it was following them home,
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Speaker 1: and sure enough, shortly later, the area around the house
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Speaker 1: became mysteriously illuminated with a very bright light. Looking out
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Speaker 1: the windows, they now saw that their dogs were lying
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Speaker 1: on the ground as if mesmerized, which is totally contrary
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Speaker 1: to their behavior, as they were very excitable dogs who
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Speaker 1: barked at anything. Now, Rodney says he then heard strange
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Speaker 1: noises on the roof of the house and in the basement.
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Speaker 1: The others in the house weren't sure if they heard this,
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Speaker 1: but everyone in the house certainly experienced what happened next,
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Speaker 1: because suddenly, without any warning, a tremendous electrical shock swept
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Speaker 1: through the house. All five members of the household felt
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Speaker 1: this shock, and in fact, one of the children in
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Speaker 1: the house, five year old Susy, was knocked to the floor.
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Speaker 1: Rodney immediately ran to the window and he now saw
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Speaker 1: the bottom side of the UFO moving away from the
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Speaker 1: house and disappearing. He was the only one who saw this. Now.
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Speaker 1: Three years later, after contacting researchers, Rodney Walta returned to
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Speaker 1: the area where they had seen this UFO landing with
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Speaker 1: investigator W. J. Mills, and again they searched the area,
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Speaker 1: and this is when Rodney pointed out a clearing where
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Speaker 1: he thought the craft may have come down. The investigator WJ.
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Speaker 1: Mills searched this area and found quote cracks I cannot identify.
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Speaker 1: He said that the tracks were similar to a paw
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Speaker 1: or hoof marks, but different. Despite his own considerable experience
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Speaker 1: with hunting, he couldn't match them to any known creature.
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Speaker 1: He was convinced that these tracks were bipedal. They were
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Speaker 1: about five inches wide and eight inches long, with visible toes.
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Speaker 1: But if that wasn't weird enough, the tracks began and
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Speaker 1: ended abruptly, so perhaps there were humanoids but nobody saw them.
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Speaker 1: So there you go. It's another one of those cases
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Speaker 1: that kind of just make you go hmm, always raising
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Speaker 1: more questions than it answers. But with so many witnesses
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Speaker 1: and physiological evidence, animal reactions and parent footprints, it's really
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Speaker 1: hard to deny this case and explain it away as
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Speaker 1: you know, Hoax's hallucinations, misperceptions or mental illness, as our
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Speaker 1: governments would have us believe. It's so disingenuous because they
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Speaker 1: put forth these explanations knowing full well the validity of
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Speaker 1: the UFO phenomenon. So yeah, another case that provides another
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Speaker 1: piece to this enormous jigsaw puzzle that we call the
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Speaker 1: UFO phenomenon. Moving along to another very unusual case, one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite in this compilation. I call this one friends,
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Speaker 1: I love you. This is a single witness case. It
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Speaker 1: occurred in the fall of nineteen seventy six in Yellowstone
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Speaker 1: National Park, actually in Noraris Geyser Basin in Wyoming. I
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Speaker 1: consider this one a bit of a cautionary tale for
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Speaker 1: people who are going to try to initiate a close encounter.
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Speaker 1: In other words, do a CE five a close encounter
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Speaker 1: of the fifth kind sort of be careful what you
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Speaker 1: ask for, because that's what occurred in this case, and
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Speaker 1: I think the witness got a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: he bargained for. This case appeared in the March nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty issue of the April Bulletin in an article titled
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Speaker 1: Wyoming Another abduction. They apparently got the case from the
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Speaker 1: Jackson Hole News of Laramie, Wyoming, and in December twelfth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine issue containing the article quote local man
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Speaker 1: shares Ufo experiences this is a very unusual case. Again
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Speaker 1: technically a CE five case, a human initiated encounter, and
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Speaker 1: a cautionary tale with the well known maxim be careful
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Speaker 1: what you wish for. The witness is Woody Polston. He
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Speaker 1: had read a book titled Flying Saucer's UFO Reports, and
22:52
Speaker 1: became interested in making contact with ETS and hearing about
22:56
Speaker 1: strange lights seen in the Norris Geyser Basin in north
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Speaker 1: central Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming, he decided to go
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Speaker 1: there to try to make contact. The location is halfway
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Speaker 1: between Mammoth Hot Springs and Old Faithful and contains almost
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Speaker 1: three miles of boardwalks winding through the Hot springs and
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Speaker 1: actually contains the world's tallest active geyser, called Steamboat Geyser.
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Speaker 1: It sits at the intersection of three major seismic faults
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Speaker 1: where there are large shifting underground water reservoirs. So Woody
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Speaker 1: went to this location multiple times throughout the fall of
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six hoping to make contact. Then one evening,
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Speaker 1: around sunset, he arrived at the spot and used his
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Speaker 1: favorite method to initiate contact. He had a bright flashlight
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Speaker 1: which he had plugged into his Mustang and began flashing
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Speaker 1: out the message friends, I Love you in morse code
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Speaker 1: up into the sky. Now. On prior occasions he had
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Speaker 1: flashed this same message up to one hundred times but
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Speaker 1: received no response, But on this evening he had just
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Speaker 1: started when suddenly two UFOs showed up, and I'll just
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Speaker 1: quote Woody directly, as he says, one of them went
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Speaker 1: from the east to the west, and the other went
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Speaker 1: north south, sort of in orbit. They were quite visible
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Speaker 1: because they were so big, and they had that aluminum
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Speaker 1: cover that would reflect the sun's rays. The first one
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Speaker 1: was a cylindrical thing, kind of a disc. The big
24:30
Speaker 1: one came in and it was at least as big
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Speaker 1: as a Safeway store, and it had a formation of
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Speaker 1: some lights around an edge and over the right hand side. Now,
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Speaker 1: per Woody, the larger object had a weird indentation on
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Speaker 1: the side, kind of like a doorway, and he quickly
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Speaker 1: snapped a few photographs. And this is when things started
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Speaker 1: to get really weird. As Woody says, I think I
24:52
Speaker 1: looked at it for probably two or three minutes before
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Speaker 1: I fainted. The next thing he knew he was waking
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Speaker 1: up sometime later, not sure how long, and he stumbled
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Speaker 1: into his car, and is what he says, I curled
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Speaker 1: up under the steering wheel. That's the last I can remember.
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Speaker 1: I was semi conscious, but not really I could feel
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Speaker 1: the car rattling, fluttering from my body pulsations. I know
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Speaker 1: that my teeth chattered so hard that my jaws were
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Speaker 1: sore all the way to the top of my head.
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Speaker 1: I wish I had a running account of anything that
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Speaker 1: happened when I was in the car. God, I wish
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Speaker 1: I knew. You get so scared that you're sick, you
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Speaker 1: go crazy. You don't remember too much Now. When Wood
25:35
Speaker 1: he finally regained his bearings, he drove home, and it
25:38
Speaker 1: was then that he realized his watch was now ten
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Speaker 1: hours slow. The encounter affected him very profoundly. He began
25:47
Speaker 1: having nightmares about the incident. He did try to talk
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Speaker 1: about it, but found that when he did, he would
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Speaker 1: completely freak out. As Wood he says, I was afraid
25:56
Speaker 1: to talk about it because every time I did, I'd
25:59
Speaker 1: start coming apart. The thing about it that hurt me
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Speaker 1: more than anything I think was I thought I was insane,
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Speaker 1: that I'd gone crazy. I never made a big thing
26:09
Speaker 1: about it because I was afraid to. Maybe whatever this
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Speaker 1: intelligence is might not want to be exposed. They may
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Speaker 1: have tabulated me so that they know where I am
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Speaker 1: all the time. Now, the weirdest effect was yet to come.
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Speaker 1: Because Wood he feels like the encounters somehow improved his
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Speaker 1: health and actually slowed down his aging process. That's what
26:31
Speaker 1: he says. I've got more hair now than I did then.
26:35
Speaker 1: I think I'm being kept for some reason. I feel
26:37
Speaker 1: better now than I did when I was thirty. Now.
26:41
Speaker 1: He still believes he is in contact with the ETS
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Speaker 1: because about three years later, in the early dawn hours
26:48
Speaker 1: on October tenth, nineteen seventy nine, he was jogging across
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Speaker 1: the local Safeway parking lot when he saw a bright
26:55
Speaker 1: point of light zip across the sky at fantastic speed.
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Speaker 1: It was amazingly synchronistic how he saw this object, Because
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Speaker 1: it is wood He says, I don't know what the
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Speaker 1: hell made me look straight up into the air. Maybe
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Speaker 1: they sent me a brain wave of some kind that
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Speaker 1: made me look up. Now, Woody is unsure exactly who
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Speaker 1: he made contact with, whether it's ET's or perhaps something else.
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Speaker 1: All he knows for sure is that his encounter did happen.
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Speaker 1: As wood He says, I think it's God's angels and
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Speaker 1: could possibly have a lot of answers. I don't think
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Speaker 1: a person can really doubt it. If you do, you're naive.
27:35
Speaker 1: I don't think that we should be so naive to
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Speaker 1: think that we're the only beings in the universe that
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Speaker 1: would be capable of movement. What an amazing case that is.
27:45
Speaker 1: It just goes to show that CE five's do work.
27:48
Speaker 1: But yeah, you might be careful because it could lead
27:51
Speaker 1: to much more than a simple sighting. As we see,
27:55
Speaker 1: this gentleman had missing time. It affected him very profoundly
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Speaker 1: psychologically and apparently physically. How interesting is it that he
28:04
Speaker 1: says that this encounter affected him physically in a very
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Speaker 1: beneficial way. He believes it slowed down his aging process.
28:13
Speaker 1: I have heard that in a few other cases, So
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Speaker 1: this appears to be what I would call a healing encounter.
28:20
Speaker 1: Definitely very traumatic for him, but ultimately benevolent and a
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Speaker 1: really really unusual case. All right, now, let's move to
28:30
Speaker 1: the next case, which I call I was petrified. This
28:34
Speaker 1: one is amazing because it's a multiple witness case, although
28:38
Speaker 1: there is one primary witness who had a much closer
28:41
Speaker 1: encounter than the others around her. This one occurred on
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Speaker 1: February eleven, nineteen eighty in Council Bluffs, Iowa. And yeah,
28:52
Speaker 1: this one has some really amazing physiological effects that are
28:58
Speaker 1: frankly quite concerning. The next case first appeared in the
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Speaker 1: February fourteen, nineteen eighty issue of the Omaha, Nebraska Morning
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Speaker 1: World Herald newspaper, in an article by staff writer Michael
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Speaker 1: Kelly was titled quote Eerie Orange Lights Spook Women. Was
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Speaker 1: later presented in the July August nineteen eighty issue of
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Speaker 1: the International UFO Journal in an article called possible abduction
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Speaker 1: in Iowa. This case was investigated by researcher Alan Hendry,
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Speaker 1: and it also appeared in the MUFMON Journal under the
29:31
Speaker 1: title another time lapse case. So it did get quite
29:35
Speaker 1: a bit of publicity. And you can see why because
29:38
Speaker 1: this case involves eight women, but there is one primary witness,
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Speaker 1: who all call Susan, as she has requested total anonymity.
29:47
Speaker 1: Her friends described Susan as quote extremely level headed. Now
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Speaker 1: every two weeks these eight women meet at one of
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Speaker 1: their homes to play bridge. On February eleven, nineteen eighty,
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Speaker 1: all eight of the m met at a home just
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Speaker 1: south of Council Bluffs. Among these ladies were Marilyn Anderson,
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Speaker 1: aged thirty seven, Rita Sobetsky, an unnamed none, and five others,
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Speaker 1: including of course, the anonymous Susan. There was no alcohol
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Speaker 1: at the party. Just coffee and soda. The bridge game
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Speaker 1: broke up at around eleven thirty pm. The woman whose
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Speaker 1: home it was remained, of course, while the seven others
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Speaker 1: left in two separate cars. One car was driven by
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Speaker 1: Marilyn Anderson and held six of the women, including Rita,
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Speaker 1: Sobetsky and the nun, and the other was driven by Susan,
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Speaker 1: who was alone in the car. She followed the others
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Speaker 1: some distance behind them, and both cars were driving northbound
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Speaker 1: on County Road G sixty six. Suddenly, without warning, Marilyn, Rita,
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Speaker 1: and the other woman in the first car all noticed
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Speaker 1: a cluster of three to five unusual looking red and
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Speaker 1: white lights to their left in the western sky. These
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Speaker 1: looked much larger than the full moon, and as Marilyn says,
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Speaker 1: no one could see a shape, I heard no noise.
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Speaker 1: They estimated that these lights were about two hundred to
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Speaker 1: three hundred feet above a small hill about one city
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Speaker 1: block away. Marilyn stopped the car so everyone could see
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Speaker 1: this better, and she actually got out of the car,
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Speaker 1: and as she did, the lights sped off to the southwest,
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Speaker 1: so they were in view for no more than ten seconds.
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Speaker 1: As Marilyn says, it was almost like we were spotted
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Speaker 1: and zoom away it went. Rita confirms this, as she
31:36
Speaker 1: says was standing still in the sky and then it
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Speaker 1: took off. All I could see was three or four
31:41
Speaker 1: square white lights and a flashing red light. So there
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Speaker 1: stopped there on the road, and Marilyn rushed over to
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Speaker 1: Susan's car, which was still directly behind hers, and asked
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Speaker 1: Susan if she had seen the UFO. Susan's reply was
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Speaker 1: seen what she hadn't seen anything, So Marilyn got back
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Speaker 1: in the car and the six women returned to their
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Speaker 1: separate homes, chattering along the way about what they had seen. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 1: Susan separated from them and headed up County Road G
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Speaker 1: sixty six. Susan drove by the Iowa School for the
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Speaker 1: Death and reached Longview Loop at around eleven forty pm.
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Speaker 1: He specifically remembers looking at her watch as she passed
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Speaker 1: the Manor Housing development. She was now about five minutes
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Speaker 1: from home, so she traveled east down Longview Loop and
32:33
Speaker 1: coming up to a stopped sign, her car mysteriously stalled
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Speaker 1: and her lights in radio went out. She tried a
32:41
Speaker 1: few times vainly to start the car, but of course,
32:43
Speaker 1: it wouldn't start, so she got out to check, and
32:46
Speaker 1: this is when another car approached. Susan jumped back into
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Speaker 1: her car, and weirdly, this time she was able to
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Speaker 1: restart the car. She drove another quarter mile. She was
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Speaker 1: now alone on the road, and this is when she
33:00
Speaker 1: noticed a pinkish orange light in the sky and the
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Speaker 1: car stalled again. It wouldn't start, so this time she
33:07
Speaker 1: stepped out of the car and she could now see
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Speaker 1: a very bright orange light source about nine hundred feet
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Speaker 1: away to her left, sitting in a cornfield, and in fact,
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Speaker 1: it was so bright it hurt her eyes to look
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Speaker 1: at it, and as Susan says, I was petrified like
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Speaker 1: a rock. I couldn't look into the light because it
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Speaker 1: was too bright. It was brighter than a railroad flare,
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Speaker 1: really bright. Very frightened, she jumped back into her car
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Speaker 1: and locked the door, and at this point she blacked out,
33:37
Speaker 1: waking up what seemed like moments later. Her car was
33:40
Speaker 1: now turned sideways across the road, as if she had
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Speaker 1: skidded on ice, though of course she had no memory
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Speaker 1: of doing this. The orange light was still in the cornfield,
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Speaker 1: and as Susan says, I, don't know what happened. I
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Speaker 1: can't even make up a story. I just don't know
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Speaker 1: what happened. After that, she started up her car with
34:00
Speaker 1: no problem and drove the short distance home. Rushing inside
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Speaker 1: her home, she looked out her window and she could
34:07
Speaker 1: still see the glow of the orange light off in
34:10
Speaker 1: the distance. And this was when she noticed that she
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Speaker 1: had weird red blotches and redness on her face and hands.
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Speaker 1: As Susan says, my face and hands were pink, like
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Speaker 1: the color of a healed scar. And my face was blotchy,
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Speaker 1: not raised, but pink, about the size of a thumb print.
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Speaker 1: My stomach was upset, I had diarrhea. I was sweating.
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Speaker 1: If you have ever seen anyone in profound shock, it
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Speaker 1: was me. I thought I was marred for life. Susan
34:40
Speaker 1: now took her temperature and discovered that she was actually
34:43
Speaker 1: running a fever of about one hundred and two degrees.
34:46
Speaker 1: She saw that the redness coincided exactly with where her
34:50
Speaker 1: skin had been exposed to this really bright orange light,
34:54
Speaker 1: because as she had exited the car, she covered her
34:57
Speaker 1: face and arms with her coat, and only the ex
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Speaker 1: supposed part of her face and hands were read she
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Speaker 1: didn't wake up her husband, but instead called her sister,
35:05
Speaker 1: and her sister advised her to go visit a doctor immediately.
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Speaker 1: Susan declined. She checked the clock, and she was shocked
35:13
Speaker 1: to see that it was now twelve minutes past midnight.
35:16
Speaker 1: This meant that she was missing approximately a half hour
35:19
Speaker 1: of time. Susan was naturally unable to sleep that night,
35:23
Speaker 1: and she remained awake all night. By four a m.
35:27
Speaker 1: The red blotches began to fade, and twenty minutes later
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Speaker 1: they were gone. The next morning, she did not go
35:33
Speaker 1: to the doctor, but she later heard about her friend's
35:37
Speaker 1: UFO sighting, and this elicited both surprise and concern. Her
35:42
Speaker 1: friend did convince her to speak to reporter Mike Kelly
35:46
Speaker 1: of the Morning World Herald, but after this she refused
35:49
Speaker 1: to speak to anyone else about this event and does
35:52
Speaker 1: not want to talk about her encounter. For Margaret, Susan
35:55
Speaker 1: wants to dismiss this strange experience as something mundane. I
36:00
Speaker 1: think you'll agree that's a truly remarkable case. And yeah,
36:04
Speaker 1: looks like an onboard encounter to me, Given that this
36:08
Speaker 1: woman was so deeply affected physically had missing time, I
36:13
Speaker 1: wonder about it so many cases of people who are
36:17
Speaker 1: driving along a remote highway late at night and this
36:20
Speaker 1: is when they have their encounter. What makes this case
36:23
Speaker 1: unusual is that there were two vehicles and the group
36:27
Speaker 1: of people in the first car saw the UFO that
36:30
Speaker 1: apparently took this other lady, and she had a really
36:39
Speaker 1: very close encounter. So I can't blame her for not
36:44
Speaker 1: wanting to pursue it, for just dismissing it as an
36:48
Speaker 1: unusual event in her life that she really doesn't want
36:50
Speaker 1: to talk about, because I think this is a reaction
36:54
Speaker 1: a lot of witnesses have. It's when they're confronted with
36:58
Speaker 1: something that's completely out of worldview. It's very difficult for
37:02
Speaker 1: them to process. But I do wonder what would have
37:05
Speaker 1: happened if she sort of faced this encounter head on,
37:08
Speaker 1: decided to go under hypnosis. Probably would have remembered an
37:12
Speaker 1: on board encounter. I'm, of course speculating here, but given
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Speaker 1: that there was missing time, I suspect that's what happened.
37:22
Speaker 1: All right. Now, let's move to the next case, which
37:25
Speaker 1: is very widely viewed and has all kinds of really
37:28
Speaker 1: unusual electromagnetic disturbances associated with it. This is essentially a
37:34
Speaker 1: UFO wave. I call this one. There is no explanation.
37:40
Speaker 1: This occurred on March twelve, nineteen eighty two, though there
37:43
Speaker 1: were follow up sightings in the days that followed in Mesl, Germany.
37:48
Speaker 1: I wanted to include this one, not only because it
37:51
Speaker 1: was widely viewed there were electromagnetic effects. But you don't
37:55
Speaker 1: get many cases out of Germany. Apparently the press there,
38:00
Speaker 1: the media is not super keen on covering this subject,
38:05
Speaker 1: so we don't get a lot of cases there, and
38:08
Speaker 1: this one was one that was so dramatic it simply
38:11
Speaker 1: could not be covered up or ignored. This case involves
38:15
Speaker 1: an undeniable and widely viewed series of close encounters of
38:19
Speaker 1: the second kind with some very interesting effects on the environment.
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Speaker 1: Began on March twelve, nineteen eighty two, at nine pm,
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Speaker 1: A fourteen year old girl by the name of Manuela
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Speaker 1: Helm and her friend Sonya Borman, aged fifteen, were walking
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Speaker 1: to their home in Messel, Germany, after a party. Suddenly,
38:39
Speaker 1: without warning, a huge glowing object appeared high in the
38:43
Speaker 1: sky and immediately swooped down over their heads. It came
38:47
Speaker 1: so low it appeared to the girls that it almost
38:50
Speaker 1: hit the ground, but then it shot back up again.
38:53
Speaker 1: Immediately it doved down towards them again. Naturally terrified and
38:58
Speaker 1: panic stricken, the girl's dad dashed to the nearby youth
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Speaker 1: center and alerted Manuella's older brother, Werner Helm, age seventeen,
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Speaker 1: and his friends, who were all at a dance party.
39:09
Speaker 1: While Werner and about ten other young men ran out
39:12
Speaker 1: to see the UFO, which was still up in the sky,
39:15
Speaker 1: Manuela and Sonya, who were still terribly frightened, dashed to
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Speaker 1: their own homes, banging on the front door screaming to
39:23
Speaker 1: be let in. Manuela's mother said her daughter was as
39:27
Speaker 1: white as chalk and trembling all over. Her mother said
39:31
Speaker 1: that even two weeks later, Manuela refused to go outside
39:35
Speaker 1: at night, which she told researchers, but if you talk
39:38
Speaker 1: to anybody about it, they'd look at you as though
39:41
Speaker 1: you are daft. Meanwhile, her older brother, Werner Helm and
39:45
Speaker 1: his friends saw that this UFO was now hovering at
39:49
Speaker 1: a tree top level over a nearby sports field, lighting
39:53
Speaker 1: the area around it quote as bright as day. They
39:57
Speaker 1: described this object as sixty five feet wide and elongated
40:01
Speaker 1: oval with a transparent glowing cupola. The craft was sending
40:05
Speaker 1: down four beams quote like searchlights, which kept changing from
40:09
Speaker 1: green to blue and back again. The boys approached this
40:13
Speaker 1: object to about one hundred and thirty feet away from it,
40:17
Speaker 1: close enough to hear a loud hum coming from the craft.
40:21
Speaker 1: They watched it for about ten minutes, when suddenly it
40:24
Speaker 1: sent out a blue burst of light, followed by a
40:26
Speaker 1: kind of banging noise. They watched it for about five
40:29
Speaker 1: more minutes, and then, becoming concerned, fled back to the
40:33
Speaker 1: protection of the youth's center and continued to watch as
40:36
Speaker 1: this UFO rose slowly upwards, gained speed, and took off.
40:41
Speaker 1: Now there were a lot of other people seeing this.
40:44
Speaker 1: Another witness was thirteen year old Martin Stephis, who saw
40:48
Speaker 1: the craft and ran screaming hysterically into the house. His
40:52
Speaker 1: foster mother, Marguerite Gustavson, and her husband ran outside and
40:57
Speaker 1: saw several spherical glowing objects high up in the sky,
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Speaker 1: flying back and forth overhead, So they immediately rushed inside
41:04
Speaker 1: and called the police. Police chief Thomas Welland and his
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Speaker 1: partner mister Bean Hansen, were sent to the Gustavson residence
41:14
Speaker 1: with the alert that quote a woman was seeing flashing lights. Now,
41:18
Speaker 1: they didn't believe in UFOs, they really didn't expect to
41:21
Speaker 1: see anything. But no sooner had they arrived when mister
41:25
Speaker 1: bean Hanson shouted out, man, stop the car, I see
41:29
Speaker 1: them too. Police Chief Thomas welland, to his amazement, now
41:34
Speaker 1: saw them as well, five UFOs. He said, Four of
41:37
Speaker 1: them were flashing lights and one was shifting color from
41:41
Speaker 1: dark green to pale green. And as he says, we
41:44
Speaker 1: saw a yellow green flying disc as large as a ball. Later,
41:49
Speaker 1: four additional white flying discs approached and stopped next to
41:52
Speaker 1: the first one. Because nobody will believe it at the
41:55
Speaker 1: station when we tell this, we called for three further
41:59
Speaker 1: patrol car to come to Nessl So shortly later the
42:03
Speaker 1: patrol cars arrived, with a total of about eight policemen.
42:07
Speaker 1: The other officers got out and arrived, and they were
42:10
Speaker 1: grinning and said, okay, where are your little green men?
42:14
Speaker 1: Chief welland pointed to the sky, and the other officers
42:18
Speaker 1: were no longer grinning because all of them could now
42:20
Speaker 1: see these objects. The closest, which looked as though it
42:24
Speaker 1: was about to land behind a row of trees bordering
42:27
Speaker 1: the Messel Darmstadt Highway, but instead of landing, it shot upwards,
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Speaker 1: and as it did, all their police car radios began
42:35
Speaker 1: to crackle with static, and at the same time, the
42:39
Speaker 1: lights in the houses all around the area flickered on
42:42
Speaker 1: and off, and people inside their homes reported that their
42:45
Speaker 1: TV reception was blotted out. As Chief Wellen says, are
42:51
Speaker 1: switched off loudspeakers crackled tremendously. At this point, some of
42:56
Speaker 1: the officers, including Chief Welland, chased one of the UFA and,
43:00
Speaker 1: as he says, occasionally we saw them in the sky.
43:04
Speaker 1: After a few miles, the UFOs moved out of sight.
43:08
Speaker 1: Now later it was discovered that the defense radar equipment
43:12
Speaker 1: at nearby Ramstein Air Force Base tracked the objects on
43:17
Speaker 1: radar for about a half hour. There were US forces
43:21
Speaker 1: in the area, and when asked about the radar confirmation,
43:25
Speaker 1: a US spokesman replied, it's a military secret. We do
43:30
Speaker 1: not talk about this. But as Chief Wellen says, in
43:34
Speaker 1: my opinion, the talk about the UFOs was the gossip
43:37
Speaker 1: of cranks. But what I have seen on Friday evening
43:40
Speaker 1: near Nessel makes me think because there is no explanation
43:44
Speaker 1: for this phenomenon. Now, this wave of sightings wasn't over yet.
43:48
Speaker 1: It was just four days later another fleet of objects
43:51
Speaker 1: was seen all over Germany. Ursula Weber's was on her
43:55
Speaker 1: balcony in Hamburg when she saw quote, a light gray
43:59
Speaker 1: disc with a a rainbow stripe appeared. On top of
44:02
Speaker 1: the disc were two antenna Later, the Klar family in
44:06
Speaker 1: Achen were watching TV when quote, suddenly a bright beam
44:10
Speaker 1: of light filled our living room. We saw a bright
44:13
Speaker 1: disk in the sky. Was visible for fifteen minutes, then
44:16
Speaker 1: it flew in the direction of Belgium. The day before, yesterday,
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Speaker 1: March thirteen, it appeared again and there were more witnesses.
44:25
Speaker 1: You Krueger and his friend described seeing quote three milk
44:29
Speaker 1: white disks, which they said slowly moved in a shifting
44:33
Speaker 1: pattern from east to south. Two other witnesses were Petra
44:36
Speaker 1: Rush and her friend Juanita, who were sitting in a
44:39
Speaker 1: car listening to the radio outside their parents' home in
44:43
Speaker 1: urban Cime when an object flashed across the sky, and
44:46
Speaker 1: as Petra says, the street lights flickered and the radio
44:50
Speaker 1: went down. And just as abruptly as this wave began,
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Speaker 1: it ended. The German press, which was notoriously skeptical of UFOs,
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Speaker 1: covered it at length, and this is one of the
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Speaker 1: very few cases in Germany at that time that received
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Speaker 1: widespread publicity. How about that. It's funny to me that
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Speaker 1: the police officers arrive on the scene and say where's
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Speaker 1: the little green men, and then of course have to
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Speaker 1: eat their words when they see the UFOs themselves. I
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Speaker 1: doubt that this encounter would have gotten any coverage had
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Speaker 1: it not been for the fact that eight police officers
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Speaker 1: became witnesses, and of course this object appeared on radar
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Speaker 1: and all these weird electromagnetic effects. So yeah, a very
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Speaker 1: dramatic close encounter of the second kind. Now we moved
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Speaker 1: to the last and final case of this collection. This
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Speaker 1: one is probably my favorite because it's just so unusual.
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Speaker 1: I call this one Guardians of the Earth. This one
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Speaker 1: occurred on September fifteenth, nineteen eighty five, in Bagshot, England.
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Speaker 1: This is a multiple witness case, while being a husband
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Speaker 1: and wife and there were also outside witnesses. What's interesting
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Speaker 1: about this case is what seemed to be a simple
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Speaker 1: sighting actually resulted in what appears to be direct telepathic
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Speaker 1: contact and also some early unusual physiological effects. So again,
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure how you would categorize an encounter like this,
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Speaker 1: but it's so fascinating because these were events that were
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Speaker 1: ongoing for some time with this witness and was able
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Speaker 1: to get some really interesting information from these alleged ets.
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Speaker 1: This case was investigated by prolific researcher Omar Fowler, who
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Speaker 1: was Chairman of SYGAP, the Surrey Investigation Group, and was
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Speaker 1: published in an article titled close Encounter on Bagshot Heath
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Speaker 1: in the volume thirty one, number two issue of the
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Speaker 1: Flying Saucer Review. It's an incredibly strange multiple witness encounter
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Speaker 1: with some truly bizarre after effects. With around nine p
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Speaker 1: m on September fifteenth, nineteen eighty five, that David Nick Murray,
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Speaker 1: a butcher, and his wife Susan, a hairdresser, and their
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Speaker 1: two small children, Paul h five and Katie aged eighteen months,
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Speaker 1: were driving westbound along Red Road. This is Highway B
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Speaker 1: three eleven. The children were asleep in the back seat
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Speaker 1: and coming around a slight bend in the road, David
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Speaker 1: and Susan were shocked to see an intensely bright object
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Speaker 1: hovering over the road, only about one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: feet ahead of them, and it was so bright that
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Speaker 1: it was painful to look at. The object hovered just
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Speaker 1: beneath some high tension wires crossing the road, and as
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Speaker 1: David says, I saw something hovering above the road in
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Speaker 1: front of us, I could not believe my eyes. It
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Speaker 1: was a huge saucer like craft with brilliant lights coming
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Speaker 1: from portholes around the center, so as they drove closer
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Speaker 1: to it, they could see that it was a fifty
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Speaker 1: ten foot wide metallic object was shaped kind of like
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Speaker 1: a hockey puck five feet high, with about seven bright
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Speaker 1: white round portholes. There was a blue green light on
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Speaker 1: the left side and a red light on the right,
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Speaker 1: and as they got even closer, it shot up into
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Speaker 1: the sky and disappeared, while at the same time, a
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Speaker 1: second craft appeared on the left side of their car
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Speaker 1: and began to pace their vehicle. Meanwhile, the car which
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Speaker 1: had been falling behind them saw this whole thing and
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Speaker 1: promptly pulled off to the side of the road. David, however,
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Speaker 1: kept driving towards where a new housing development was being constructed,
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Speaker 1: just in case he needed to run for help. Then
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Speaker 1: he stopped the car and got out to observe this
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Speaker 1: object that was still there. Susan, however, was too frightened
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Speaker 1: to get out and instead remained in the seat and
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Speaker 1: locked the door. But as Susan says, I saw the
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Speaker 1: two things with my own eyes, it was an incredible experience.
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Speaker 1: Now standing by his car, David saw the object hovering
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Speaker 1: about fifty feet above the nearby trees. He was close
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Speaker 1: enough to hear a buzzing noise, which he described as
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Speaker 1: quote like an electric sewing machine. He got a very
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Speaker 1: strong feeling that the occupants of the craft were watching
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Speaker 1: him closely. This face off continued for about another minute
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Speaker 1: or two, when the object suddenly darted upward, became a
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Speaker 1: starlike light high in the sky, and disappeared. So David
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Speaker 1: got back in the car, turned it around and drove
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Speaker 1: back up to the top of the hill where they
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Speaker 1: had first seen this object. The other car that had
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Speaker 1: pulled over was still there. David did not stop to
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Speaker 1: talk to them, something he would later regret, and instead
49:42
Speaker 1: they just continued home, and they immediately called the police,
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Speaker 1: the Heathrow Airport, and the West Drayton Air Traffic Center
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Speaker 1: to report the encounter. Then came the many strange after effects.
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Speaker 1: The first is so bizarre. Everyone in the family overslept
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Speaker 1: the next morning. Usually they were all up before six am,
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Speaker 1: but on this morning, they didn't awaken until nine thirty am.
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Speaker 1: The next strange effect when David went to start his car,
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Speaker 1: the battery was completely dead and the high strangeness just
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Speaker 1: kept coming because a few hours later, David developed a
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Speaker 1: very severe headache that actually necessitated a visit to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: They could find nothing wrong with him, but both David
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Speaker 1: and his wife said that the day after the encounter,
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Speaker 1: they both suffered from a quote hollow feeling which was
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Speaker 1: in their stomach, and quote shaky legs. These symptoms persisted
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Speaker 1: for three days for Susan and nine days for David,
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Speaker 1: and as David says, the whole family was weak and
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Speaker 1: trembling for days afterward, so this affected their kids too.
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Speaker 1: David began having trouble sleeping. He started suffering weird memory lapses.
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Speaker 1: He had an outbreak of small red circles on his body,
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Speaker 1: each about one and a quarter inch in diameter. They
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Speaker 1: were on his neck, his left shoulder, and on his
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Speaker 1: torso one would appear and fade, at which point another
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Speaker 1: would appear. They first appeared on the left side of
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Speaker 1: his body, then after finally disappearing, they reappeared on the
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Speaker 1: right side of his body, continuing for some three weeks
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Speaker 1: after the initial encounter, and soon other witnesses to this
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Speaker 1: event began to surface. Mister and Missus Webb said that
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Speaker 1: at eight forty five on that same night, about fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes before the McMurray's encounter, they were driving along the
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Speaker 1: M four towards Wokingham when they saw a bright red
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Speaker 1: glowing object. As Missus Webb says, I am sure it
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Speaker 1: was not an aircraft. It made me think it could
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Speaker 1: have been a so called UFO. Other witnesses include Lynn
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Speaker 1: Brooks and her boyfriend. At eleven forty five that evening,
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Speaker 1: some two and a half hours after the McMurray's sighting,
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Speaker 1: they watched a strange odd with red and white flashing
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Speaker 1: lights for about five minutes, during which time their Great
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Speaker 1: Dane was quote disturbed and whining, and as Lynne says,
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Speaker 1: I was really frightened. It was as if it was
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Speaker 1: watching me. Meanwhile, David continued to have strange after effects.
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Speaker 1: He started to develop a sudden and strong interest and
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Speaker 1: perception of the electronics and mechanics. For example, he would
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Speaker 1: see a light switch and have a sudden knowledge about
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Speaker 1: how it functioned. Once, as he was driving his car,
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Speaker 1: he said he was able to clearly visualize how the
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Speaker 1: entire car engine worked, and then he started having out
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Speaker 1: of body experiences. He woke up in the middle of
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Speaker 1: the night to find himself floating above his body and
52:44
Speaker 1: looking down upon himself and his wife sleeping in bed.
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Speaker 1: This happened twice, and he had never had an obe
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Speaker 1: before his encounter. And a final weird effect was this
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Speaker 1: weird message that kept repeating in his head. The message
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Speaker 1: was epsilon forty four L dashed forty seven L. He
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Speaker 1: had no idea what that meant. He'd never heard this
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Speaker 1: word before. But Epsilon is the fifth letter of the
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Speaker 1: Greek alphabet. In mathematics, it signifies an extremely small quantity
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Speaker 1: approaching zero. In astronomy, there is a star named Epsilon Eridani,
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Speaker 1: which is located some ten point five light years from
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Speaker 1: Earth as actually one of the closer stars to our
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Speaker 1: own Solar system. It reportedly does have an exoplanet, a
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Speaker 1: gas giant orbiting it, which was discovered in the year
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Speaker 1: two thousand and This is when scientists named that planet
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Speaker 1: Epsilon B. But Yeah, David says he had never heard
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Speaker 1: this word before. Now, one month after the encounter, on
53:46
Speaker 1: October seventeen, there was another incident. Joy Rapley and her
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Speaker 1: nineteen year old daughter June saw a UFO from their
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Speaker 1: home on Ambleside Road in lightwater, and as June says,
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Speaker 1: I could see the shape of it a dome shape
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Speaker 1: like a hat. Upon seeing it, Joyce thought to herself,
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Speaker 1: good God, we are being invaded. Now. Was some months
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Speaker 1: after the encounter that David McMurray finally decided to try hypnosis,
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Speaker 1: mostly to find out the reason for this strange message
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Speaker 1: about Epsilon that he could not get out of his head.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Leonard Wilder placed David under hypnosis and regressed him
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Speaker 1: back to his sighting, and under hypnosis, David stated that
54:27
Speaker 1: the beings began to communicate and called themselves quote guardians
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Speaker 1: of Earth now. The final contact happened on January twenty sixth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty six. David was driving on the same road
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Speaker 1: and had reached the same exact spot on this road
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Speaker 1: where he had seen the UFO, and this is when
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Speaker 1: he got a really bad headache, was so bad he
54:49
Speaker 1: had to pull over to recover. Later, arriving home, David
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Speaker 1: now began to write frantically, almost like automatic writing, because
54:57
Speaker 1: as his wife Susan says, he behaved as though he
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Speaker 1: was in some sort of days now. This message written
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Speaker 1: by David apparently came from the ETS. It was a
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Speaker 1: telepathic download. This was one page long and it contained
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Speaker 1: various bits of information. David wrote that the ETS said
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Speaker 1: that they were friends of humanity and had been watching
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Speaker 1: over Earth since at least twelve BC. They said that
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Speaker 1: humankind had no significant development until the nineteenth century and
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Speaker 1: are still divided about the idea of quote one supreme power.
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Speaker 1: They also said that warlike activity will not be tolerated.
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Speaker 1: They said that they came far away from epsilon forty
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Speaker 1: four L DASH forty seven L and were only contacting
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Speaker 1: certain key people. David did go public with his encounter,
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Speaker 1: but if he received any more messages, he has not
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Speaker 1: revealed them. There you go. I think you'll agree that
55:54
Speaker 1: that is a very unusual case. How interesting is it
55:58
Speaker 1: that he went under hypnosis and did not recall going
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Speaker 1: on board, but did recall this sort of telepathic communication
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Speaker 1: with the ETS, and going back to that same location,
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Speaker 1: has this sort of second telepathic download, if you will,
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Speaker 1: and does what we would call automatic writing and gets
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Speaker 1: this very interesting message about who these zts are, where
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Speaker 1: they came from, and why they're here and so forth.
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Speaker 1: So it's an interesting case also because of all the
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Speaker 1: outside witnesses and of course the weird physiological effects. All
56:34
Speaker 1: of these cases, I think, always raise more questions than
56:36
Speaker 1: they answer. But as we continue to grow our database
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Speaker 1: of cases like these, one thing is certainly clear. They
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Speaker 1: are real. There are far too many cases to explain away.
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Speaker 1: As you can see, these cases are occurring all over
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Speaker 1: the world, have been occurring for decade after decade, people
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Speaker 1: are reporting the same sort of details. In other words,
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Speaker 1: these cases are incredibly consistent, despite the fact that these
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Speaker 1: people don't know each other, so that's very hard to
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Speaker 1: explain away. I love these close encounors of the second
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Speaker 1: kind again, I think that they provide some really interesting
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Speaker 1: insights into the extraterrestrial presence on our planet. So I
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Speaker 1: hope you've enjoyed this episode. I truly appreciate you guys
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Speaker 1: tuning in, so thank you so much, and until next time,
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Speaker 1: keep asking those hard questions, keep searching for the truth.
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Speaker 1: Most important of all, keep having fun, and I hope
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Speaker 1: to see you next time for another episode of the
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Speaker 1: UFOs and the Paranormal I'm signing out for now Bye.