Latest / THE DAILY BRIEF / Brooks and Capehart on the Senate primaries in Texas
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- 0:00Speaker 1: President Trump is visiting Texas today, where three of his
- 0:03Speaker 1: supporters are battling it out in that state Senate primary
- 0:06Speaker 1: election set for next week. That says the President also
- 0:09Speaker 1: considers military action in Iran. Lots to discuss. And we
- 0:13Speaker 1: turn now to the analysis of Brooks and k Part.
- 0:15Speaker 1: That's with the Atlantics, David Brooks and Jonathan k Part
- 0:19Speaker 1: of MS Now. It's good to see you both. So,
- 0:22Speaker 1: as we said, President Trump in Texas were three Republicans
- 0:25Speaker 1: to include the incumbent John Cornyn. They're locked in this
- 0:28Speaker 1: competitive GOP primary. The President has yet to make an endorsement.
- 0:32Speaker 1: The fact that he's inserting himself early and forcefully in
- 0:36Speaker 1: this race, does that suggest that he's still the GOP
- 0:40Speaker 1: kingmaker or that he's trying to demonstrate that.
- 0:42Speaker 2: He is a little of both, maybe a little more
- 0:45Speaker 2: of the latter. The Texas race, to me, is the
- 0:47Speaker 2: most interesting Senate race in both parties because it gets
- 0:51Speaker 2: at the core debate right at the middle of both parties.
- 0:54Speaker 2: On the Democratic side, to your Jasmine Crockett, who's an
- 0:56Speaker 2: aggressive progressive fighter, and then you have James Tallerico, who
- 1:02Speaker 2: is more moderate, is trying to revive the religious left
- 1:05Speaker 2: and so the argument on the Democratic side is do
- 1:07Speaker 2: we want somebody who'll just go to the mat and
- 1:09Speaker 2: take down these Republicans, or do we want somebody will
- 1:11Speaker 2: be conciliatory and win over people from the center. And
- 1:13Speaker 2: that is the coordinating the Democratic Party. On the Republican side,
- 1:16Speaker 2: you've got Ken Paxton, who has been scandal plagued since
- 1:19Speaker 2: nursery school. He's and then you've got John Cornyan, who
- 1:24Speaker 2: is not the most exciting bulb in the in the Senate,
- 1:27Speaker 2: but a standard issue Republican. And so the Paxton race
- 1:31Speaker 2: in particular, and he'll probably come out first, but force
- 1:34Speaker 2: a runoff shows that there's still some juice if he
- 1:38Speaker 2: does really well in Maga. If he doesn't do really well,
- 1:41Speaker 2: and if Wesley Hunt or Cornon do well, then that's
- 1:44Speaker 2: a signed the Republican Party is beginning to move on.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Jonathan, what stands out to you in the Crockett be
- 1:50Speaker 1: Taller Rico matchup?
- 1:54Speaker 3: Well, Look, the one thing I will say is that
- 1:56Speaker 3: no matter which candidate wins, the Democratic nomination will be
- 2:00Speaker 3: infinitely better than whomever the Republicans decide to nominate. So
- 2:04Speaker 3: I'll just put that out there. But in this race,
- 2:07Speaker 3: the polls seem to be a bit all over the place.
- 2:10Speaker 3: There's one poll that came out from ut Tyler that
- 2:13Speaker 3: had congress Woman Crockett up by twelve points, with the
- 2:16Speaker 3: sample size is small, and other polls that I just
- 2:20Speaker 3: took a look at have State Representative Talla Rico up
- 2:23Speaker 3: by single digits, maybe six points eight points. I think
- 2:27Speaker 3: both candidates are trying to win in two different ways,
- 2:33Speaker 3: but I think in two legitimate ways. Congresswoman Crockett, she
- 2:38Speaker 3: is going for disaffected voters, African American voters, voters who
- 2:42Speaker 3: may not have voted in previous selections. In a lot
- 2:45Speaker 3: of ways, she's taking a page out of Donald Trump's
- 2:49Speaker 3: book Playbook when he ran in twenty sixteen, when he
- 2:52Speaker 3: what I called fracking for votes, he got pulled people
- 2:55Speaker 3: out who had not voted before. That's who Congresswoman Crockett's
- 2:58Speaker 3: trying to go after. State Representative Taller Rico. He's going
- 3:02Speaker 3: after more middle of the road, but really setting his
- 3:06Speaker 3: sights on disaffected Republican voters who might not be too
- 3:11Speaker 3: keen on what the president is doing and they might
- 3:14Speaker 3: be gettable. So on Tuesday, I'm looking to see which
- 3:18Speaker 3: tactic actually won and whether they can win enough votes
- 3:22Speaker 3: to not be in a primary in a primary runoff, Well.
- 3:25Speaker 1: Let's shift our focus back to this previous Tuesday, the
- 3:27Speaker 1: State of the Union address, David, was there anything in
- 3:30Speaker 1: that speech that stands out to you as meaningfully changing
- 3:33Speaker 1: the landscape or President Trump's standing?
- 3:37Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 3:37Speaker 2: I mean the question I'm asking is has Trump? Is
- 3:41Speaker 2: he losing the country. A lot of people have been
- 3:43Speaker 2: waiting since twenty sixteen for him to lose the country,
- 3:45Speaker 2: but there's clearly some tide of slippage. Mike's colleague Russ
- 3:49Speaker 2: Stout that issued a video of The New York Times
- 3:51Speaker 2: saying He's losing the country and conservatives have to adjust.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Is he losing the country or is this just another
- 3:58Speaker 2: wishful film? And for people who don't like him, I
- 4:00Speaker 2: think there's evidence that he is that if you look
- 4:03Speaker 2: at particularly at Independence, they have swung sharply away from him.
- 4:06Speaker 2: And then if you look at Republicans, does this a
- 4:09Speaker 2: Pew research, does Donald Trump respect the country's democratic values?
- 4:14Speaker 2: The number of Republicans who say that is down sharply.
- 4:17Speaker 2: Should Republican members of Congress feel obligated to support Donald Trump?
- 4:21Speaker 2: Sixty one percent of Republicans say they do not have
- 4:23Speaker 2: any responsibility to support Donald Trump. These are all changing numbers,
- 4:27Speaker 2: and so clearly there's a sense whether it's Minnesota, whether
- 4:30Speaker 2: it's just general Michigos, which is yetis for crazy? I'm
- 4:36Speaker 2: familiar just for for Jonathan. Jonathan's in New York. He
- 4:42Speaker 2: definitely knows where is okay, and so I think that
- 4:49Speaker 2: there's signs that even Republican support it's not going anywhere,
- 4:53Speaker 2: but it's getting demoralized.
- 4:55Speaker 4: Yeah, Jonathan.
- 4:56Speaker 1: I will say the contrast in that speech really stood out.
- 4:59Speaker 1: The President in one way, sounding like a conventional policy
- 5:02Speaker 1: maker talking about making you know, tech companies pay for
- 5:05Speaker 1: their own electricity bills because of the AI plants that
- 5:08Speaker 1: they operate, and then in the next breath he would be,
- 5:11Speaker 1: you know, shading the Supreme Court or calling Democrats crazy.
- 5:15Speaker 1: There was you know, governance and grievance side by side.
- 5:22Speaker 3: Jeff, I think are being charitable. I had actually forgotten
- 5:24Speaker 3: about what he had said about AI paying its own
- 5:28Speaker 3: electricity bills because the rest of the speech was nothing
- 5:31Speaker 3: but a variety show where he trotted people out, used
- 5:35Speaker 3: them as prompts, handed out metals like pez. Now that's
- 5:39Speaker 3: not to take away from the people who got the medals.
- 5:41Speaker 3: They deserve them, they deserve to be celebrated by the
- 5:45Speaker 3: American people, but not like that, not in the way
- 5:48Speaker 3: that the President did it. And also I thought there
- 5:50Speaker 3: was a meanness to his address, and also the dabbling
- 5:55Speaker 3: in just the language of violence, getting into just infinite
- 6:00Speaker 3: detail about what people went through, the horrors and the trauma.
- 6:06Speaker 3: I came away from the was one hundred and seven
- 6:09Speaker 3: minutes of that speech just feeling worn down and wanting
- 6:13Speaker 3: that the one hundred and seven minutes back and longing
- 6:16Speaker 3: for the days of what that long State of the
- 6:19Speaker 3: Union address that President Bill Clinton gave in the way
- 6:23Speaker 3: way back, that was just chock full of politic proposals
- 6:27Speaker 3: and ideas, to the point where you know, Washington reporters
- 6:31Speaker 3: were like, my God, like this guy is so boring.
- 6:33Speaker 3: I long for that kind of boring.
- 6:36Speaker 1: In the time that remains. I want to have you
- 6:38Speaker 1: both way in on Warner Brothers, Discovery reportedly agreeing to
- 6:42Speaker 1: be acquired by Paramount sky Dance. This is after Netflix
- 6:45Speaker 1: walked away from the negotiations, and if the deal closes,
- 6:48Speaker 1: it means that one family, in this case, the family
- 6:51Speaker 1: that has been so far deferential to President Trump would
- 6:53Speaker 1: control CBS, CNN, HBO and TikTok. How do you see it?
- 6:58Speaker 2: Yeah, I've found media business incredibly boring and pointless. And
- 7:02Speaker 2: I hadn't been able to do that because I've worked
- 7:04Speaker 2: at Dow Jones News Corp, New York Times, PBS. I've
- 7:08Speaker 2: worked at all these agencies, and the business structure of
- 7:10Speaker 2: the business had no effect on me. There's never been
- 7:13Speaker 2: a moment in my career where I have the sense
- 7:15Speaker 2: that somebody on the business side of things was going
- 7:17Speaker 2: to try to influence anything I ever did. But that
- 7:20Speaker 2: seems to be changing. And in the malefactor here is
- 7:24Speaker 2: Donald Trump. Once Trump starts playing political favorites among whether
- 7:28Speaker 2: it's Anthropic versus OpenAI, or whether it's Netflix versus Paramount,
- 7:32Speaker 2: then of course the companies have to be mindful of that.
- 7:34Speaker 2: And I'm a guy who I don't know Barry Weiss particularly,
- 7:38Speaker 2: but I support what they're trying to do. I think
- 7:40Speaker 2: it's time to mix up the media that we got
- 7:42Speaker 2: a little too progressive, a little too elite. And if
- 7:44Speaker 2: Barry Weis can change the mindset, allpower tour. But if
- 7:48Speaker 2: this is being done for lobbying and business which it
- 7:51Speaker 2: sure looks like it is. Then that's the real deterioration
- 7:55Speaker 2: in the business.
- 7:56Speaker 1: How do you see it, Jonathan.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Well, I would argue that, you know, the media isn't
- 8:01Speaker 3: necessarily liberal when you look at the fact that you know,
- 8:06Speaker 3: the number one cable channel, in the number one viewing
- 8:10Speaker 3: channel is Fox News Channel. Of this idea that there
- 8:13Speaker 3: are liberals out there running around through the media and
- 8:16Speaker 3: doctrinating people and changing, you know, setting the narrative, I
- 8:20Speaker 3: just think is wrong.
- 8:21Speaker 4: And I think.
- 8:22Speaker 3: Bringing a Fox like mentality, mentality, mentality, and demeanor to
- 8:28Speaker 3: CBS News and potentially to CNN, I think in the
- 8:32Speaker 3: end makes the American people worse off our job as
- 8:38Speaker 3: as journalists and and and I'm speaking thinking specifically of
- 8:42Speaker 3: CNN in this case, in this in this deal, folks
- 8:46Speaker 3: turn to CNN for news. They turn to them for
- 8:51Speaker 3: just what is happening in the country. And if what's
- 8:54Speaker 3: happening at CBS is could happen at CNN, then our
- 9:03Speaker 3: country and our profession will be in worse shape.
- 9:06Speaker 2: David Well, the one reason Fox exists is because all
- 9:10Speaker 2: the other mainstream networks don't have Trump supporters. I do
- 9:13Speaker 2: think we have made a mistake over decades in shops,
- 9:16Speaker 2: shutting out working class folks, and in not letting more
- 9:21Speaker 2: Trump voices. And it's hard to get Trump voices on
- 9:23Speaker 2: the air, I understand. But if you tell half the
- 9:25Speaker 2: country that your voice is aren't worth her, they will rebel.
- 9:29Speaker 2: And that's a bid on us. Trump is not to
- 9:31Speaker 2: be defended, but he's never completely wrong.
- 9:34Speaker 1: David Brooks and Jonathan Caeart, Thank you both.
- 9:38Speaker 3: Thank you.
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