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Why transparency matters in new genetic food platforms · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  It's time for truth be told with Booker's Guy.
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  Well, one of the questions I recently had had to do with MRNA going into beef cattle, uh milk cows and chickens, poultry, and that kind of thing.
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  And I really didn't know.
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  I did some research.
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  It doesn't appear that the USDA has approved any mRNA to be injected into cows yet.
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  But there may be a study going on to find out if that's going to happen.
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  As usual, I don't know how to answer all these questions, but I know somebody that does, and I'm going to bring her into the program now.
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  She's been here several times.
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  Her name is Brianna Sagdall.
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  She is a senior writer for the Beef Initiative and also a fellow there.
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  Brianna, welcome back to the program.
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  Glad to have you.
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  Ah, you so much, Fricker.
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  I'm so glad to be back on with you.
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  Love your show.
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  Really appreciate that.
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  Well, thank you.
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  The last time you were here, you were talking about an executive order that Donald Trump needed to sign to prevent all the federal land grab that's going on.
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  Has he done that yet?
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  Well, um, it was actually the repeal of various Biden era executive orders, and he has.
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  We're very grateful uh for the Trump administration, really looking forward to what happens next.
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  Yeah, I wanted to make sure that I came back to that because that was what we talked about the last time you were here.
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  But let's talk about this USDA because that is a question that has been posed to me.
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  I know that you will know the answer.
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  Are we injecting our food right now with mRNA that has been approved by the USDA?
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  Well, we are.
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  Uh we are injecting pork uh hogs, excuse me, right now.
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  So the Sequivity MRNA platform was approved initially for uh H5N1 in uh in chickens, nonetheless.
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  And uh when Mark Animal Health uh purchased it from the pharmaceutical company that created it and was given the initial BARTA grant to develop it, uh they turned it into a platform specific, uh specific to hogs, it's called sequivity.
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  And the uh FDA approved that, I believe, in 2022.
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  So that is currently in our domestic food supply on the hog side.
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  Um, but it is not in our cattle, beef cattle or dairy cattle supply yet.
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  Yet.
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  But it's something we should watch out for because they are running trials on it, aren't they?
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  That is what I understand.
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  You know, this week, uh the new ag Secretary, Brooke Rollins, which we've all been very, you know, cautiously optimistic and and helpful uh for, um, announced that there would be, I think 100 million dollars that were uh the the USDA will be allocating uh towards vaccine trial and research.
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  And my understanding is that will go towards um uh you know, trying various mRNA platforms on both poultry and cattle.
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  So there's been quite a bit of hubbub about this online, but the great news is that the beef initiative is your number one source of information and access to ranchers and producers that have signed our no mRNA pledge.
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  So all of our premier ranchers write uh at on our site, befinitiative.com.
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  When you go in, you find our our beef map listings and you find your local rancher, you know, nearest to you.
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  Um every single rancher that is uh listed on our maps has pledged to not use any type of mRNA in their cattle supply.
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  And in fact, we advocate a regenerative program uh through one one company called uh Better Fed Foods.
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  And uh, you know, it's it's from the soil to the fork concept.
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  Um, but yeah, so anyone who is considered or or excuse me, um, concerned uh about about this uh in their food supply, I would highly encourage them to get to know their nearest rancher, go shake their hand and start buying your meat directly from the source.
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  That also goes for buying chicken eggs as well.
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  You can do the same thing.
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  I have been to beefinitiative.com before, and what you would want to do is go there and find someone that's close to you.
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  I live in the state of Florida.
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  There are ranchers here in Florida that I can buy meat from there at the befinitiative.com.
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  They do not use mRNA in their food.
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  So if you're concerned about it, like Brianna said, check out the beefinitiative.com.
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  Now, should people be concerned about it?
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  That's the next question.
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  Should people be concerned about mRNA that's in hogs and gonna be in chickens and also in beef?
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  Well, so you know, unfortunately, there's just not enough research on it uh to answer that in any type of definitive way.
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  Um, but it is my understanding from speaking with uh very well known, very well respected veterinarians, uh, in addition to very well known and respected doctors, uh, that the mRNA platform has the potential um to uh it affect or infect individuals while handling raw meat.
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  Now, I don't know that the you know meat temperature, either freezing it or cooking it to a certain, you know, temperature will necessarily inactivate that mRNA.
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  So I I think at this point it's probably just um you know it better to be safe than sorry.
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  Yeah, I I think it's incredibly irresponsible to put any type of product in our food supply that has the potential to impact uh you know the consumer because you don't you just you just have no idea what dose, right?
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  You can't control the amount that individuals are getting.
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  Um, and so you know, be that some form of spike protein or whatever it might be.
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  I mean, this isn't my wheelhouse, so um I just you know, I I think it's probably better to be safe than sorry at this point.
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  Yeah, be cautious.
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  No, yeah, know exactly where your food is coming from and who's raising it and uh take control of your of your own food supply.
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  Yeah, there's nothing wrong with being cautious.
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  That you know, let's err on that side instead of going crazy about it.
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  Well, I know that you had a win in the South Dakota legislature, and we're gonna get to that in a minute.
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  I do want to remind everyone that in most cases, almost every state is having a legislative session right now.
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  So for those of you that are concerned about things like election integrity, right now's the time to do that.
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  It's not gonna be later, it's not gonna be when you vote.
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  It's gonna be right now when legislative sessions are going on across the country because those laws for election integrity need to be done at the State House.
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  But let's move on to other laws that are being made in state houses.
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  The last couple of years, I have seen laws that have been made and passed and signed into law that would at least tell people at the grocery you are buying lettuce that has mRNA in it.
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  Have you seen those as well?
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  We've definitely seen an increased uh push across multiple states for labeling.
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  And in fact, we had uh a really fantastic win here in South Dakota uh to require the the labeling of lab cultured lab cultivated meat, uh, because the food and safety inspection service kind of dropped the ball on that, unfortunately, and we can get into that in a minute.
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  But yes, we're seeing uh an increased effort, especially around the mRNA technology platforms.
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  Um, for example, is um uh running a bill right now.
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  The state they have it in their state legislature.
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  I'm not, you know, I honestly don't know the the latest on that one, but I I do know that Montana ran a bill this year to require the proper labeling of meat that has been injected with mRNA.
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  And how would they do that?
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  Just on the packaging, is that the way that that would be done?
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  Yes, that's correct.
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  All right, and you mentioned there someone dropped the ball.
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  Who dropped the ball?
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  How did they drop the ball?
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  Well, that's a great question.
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  So this goes back to the the lab cultured lab cultivated meats.
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  And you know, if you're not familiar with this, um, you know, back in 2021, uh the Congress bifurcated the regulatory process.
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  So essentially the FDA was given part uh authority over the regulatory process, and then the USDA was given part authority, and how they split that up was between the agencies, right?
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  So the FDA went ahead and they gave a what's called no questions asked approval for lab cultured lab cultivated meats.
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  And for anyone who doesn't know what this is, it literally says in this no questions asked uh approval um with character, you know, characteristics of fibroblast and cell paste.
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  So it's essentially a form of self-replicating cell line that they can grow in a petri dish.
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  To resemble that of a meat product.
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  And we've got corporations, big corporations, GDBS, for example, one of the big five, or excuse me, big four in the in the cattle industry.
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  They just opened this massive uh biotech center out of Brazil.
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  They're working on not not only beef, but chicken, salmon, and pork products, and uh then we've got good foods uh here in the United States and uh, or excuse me, upside foods and good meats incorporated.
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  One of them, I believe, is out of UC Berkeley.
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  And uh they're they're growing these, you know, immortal cell lines of food.
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  And unfortunately, the FDA didn't review this uh product for safety because they decided that it is a meat product and not a pharmaceutical product.
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  So they gave it this no questions asked uh approval and then sent it over to the USDA.
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  The USDA did something really interesting with this under the Biden administration.
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  Tom Vilsack uh approved lab cultured lab cultivated chicken, and then went and gave it the climate-friendly climate smart uh label or award, whatever that is.
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  Designation, whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  Sure, yeah, which prioritized it under the federal plan for equitable long-term recovery and resilience, what we were talking about the last time I was on, uh, for government procurement contracts, which means uh in this case, our school lunch program.
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  Uh, because as many may remember, under the Obama administration, uh, Michelle Obama had this great idea to centralize the procurement process through the Department of Defense for the school lunch program, right?
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  The idea was that we would leverage the buying power of the Department of Defense, and it turned out to be a nightmare.
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  Trump, you know, dismantled the program while Biden brought it back.
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  So unfortunately, under this, you know, climate-friendly deal, uh, it would be prioritized for Department of Defense procurement in our school lunches.
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  And we may not even know what that is or have transparency over it, because when it came time for the food safety inspection service to figure out how these products should be labeled, uh, they were kind of bullied with comments from from these massive corporations who claims that transparent labeling would quote unquote violate the First Amendment, uh, hamper innovation and harm the livestock industry.
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  So the food safety inspection service has kind of just been sitting on this labeling uh rule change since 2021, but now the products are approved, or at least chicken is approved, uh, potentially going out to our schools, and um, and nobody's really nobody's the wiser, right?
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  I was gonna ask you, do you know if any of this chicken or pork, the pork that has mRNA, this fake chicken that isn't even real?
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  Is it making it to our schools yet?
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  I I think it's a really good possibility.
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  Um, I I would almost uh uh I would almost guarantee that uh pork with mRNA in it is in our school lunches because it's always those procurement contracts are always prioritized for the largest corporations, right?
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  So that would include Smithfield, JBS, uh Tyson, for example, and um, you know, it's it's these large corporations that are buying from what people refer to as industrial farms or industrial farmers, right?
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  Which is just kind of the stack and pack model.
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  So I would I would almost guarantee that the MRNA technology has made it into our school lunches.
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  I'm not positive on the lab cultured lab cultivated chicken, um, but that's what we wanted to make sure we weren't seeing here in South Dakota.
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  Uh you know, in our in our kids' lunches, we weren't wanting to do that guesswork.
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  So we had a really incredible win here in the state, something that almost never happens.
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  We had unanimous consent from both sides of the aisle in both chambers, meaning the House and the Senate, not a single member of South Dakota State Legislature voted no on this bill.
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  And and it was very simple.
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  All we did was um bring forward this bill asking that no uh public dollars, so taxpayer dollars would be used to either procure, which is purchase lab culture, lab cultivated proteins for our school lunches, National Guard, what have you, um, nor would our public dollars go into research.
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  And so we're very, very grateful that it passed unanimously, which made it veto proof.
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  I think our governor, our new governor would have signed it anyways.
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  But um, and and we're very grateful for uh representative Jana Hunt who brought this forward and was willing to work with us and um you know get our our experts in there to testify.
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  It was a great experience all together, and I'm really hoping that this will become model legislation for other states to follow.
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  Well, hopefully, people listening to this will be awake now to pay attention to manufactured lab meat, MRNA that is in hogs and chickens and maybe soon to be beef and milk cows.
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  Um, but congratulations on your win.
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  I hope that that inspires some people to realize that if you decide to make a difference, then you actually can make a difference if you get plugged in there to your state legislature.
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  And that's true about uh the election integrity that I talked about a few minutes ago, and about what Brianna is talking about.
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  Brianna, tell us every every tell everyone again about your beef initiative website, what they can get there, and what the address is.
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  Yes, thank you.
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  Thank you so much, Booker, and absolutely.
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  Um please check us out at Beef Initiative.com.
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  Uh, check us out on beef maps.org.
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  We also have uh beefnews.org, where you can get updates on everything that we're doing, all of our uh hard work and achievements, and make sure to check out beef maps and find your local rancher, get to know them, shake their hands, order uh whatever, you know, whatever size you want of you know, uh share or uh a beef box and support your local ranchers.
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  That is the most important thing.
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  And and the the biggest difference between the beef initiative, where we're a foundation, we're a nonprofit, you know, versus these big beef box uh companies that might say they're supporting local ranchers, they have a bottom line to to protect.
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  And oftentimes we're seeing these guys uh you know advertise that they're supporting local, but in fact, they are you know getting getting their beef from other countries and importing it in because it's less expensive, and then they can offer it at a lower rate to their customers.
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  Whereas all we're doing is we are selling you on your local rancher.
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  We're just trying to, we're just trying to connect people to their local ranchers and and really facilitate that relationship so that each and every individual has the opportunity to take back their control, self-sovereignty, and chain of custody of their own food supply.
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  I love it.
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  Thank you, Brianna.
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  Thank you for coming.
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  It's always great to hear from you.
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  Thank you so much, Booker.
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  You have a great evening, and I appreciate your time.
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  You know, as we have come through the last four or five years, it really seems like our speech has been oppressed, and maybe that's even being nice.
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  In some cases, I think it was just shut down.
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  I know that uh some of us here in America, we were censored, we were shut down by our own government.
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  There has now been proof of that.
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  We saw that that has happened between the Biden administration, social media, Google, they all tried to silence us, our voices.
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  And regardless of what the subject was, it could have been uh where COVID came from, whether it came from a Wuhan lab or a web market, or whether masks were effective or the vaccine was uh safe and effective, all of those things were shut down or attempted to.
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  Another part of that, though also, and we have seen this in other things, is how corporate world uh w regardless of where you are, they have taken it on their own to mandate things.
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  We saw that with the vaccines, you know, they mandated shots.
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  You had to get a shot or you couldn't work here.
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  Uh we saw that.
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  But there is also a possibility that they are doing the same thing with speech.
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  Lisa Myron, she is a Canadian and she has written a book.
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  The book is called World on Mute, how workplace speech committees are destroying our nations and eliminating our civil liberties.
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  Lisa, welcome to the program.
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  Great to have you.
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  Hi, Booker.
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  Hi, everyone.
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  I'm so glad uh to be with you tonight.
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  That's wonderful.
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  Yeah, well, I am I'm glad you're here too.
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  Let's talk a little bit about your thesis.
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  Let's start there.
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  Why do you feel this is happening and what do you see?
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  And tell us a little bit about this book.
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  So I I'm a lawyer of uh um twenty-six years, and um I started to look at the uh the speech what I will call speech committees, and every every way to earn a living.
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  I'll say that trans occupationally, every occupation is being sewn up, and that's n transnationally, that's globally.
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  And I started to see that then they would attract the speech committees.
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  And when the you had a speech committee, you can think of the Jordan Peterson case here in Canada, because you know him quite well.
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  Sure.
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  Um right, and so I started to track this around the world.
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  These speech committees do something new.
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  And so I collected all these cases from all, you know, OECD countries all around the world.
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  And what I noticed is it doesn't matter if you have free speech, it doesn't matter if you have a constitutional order.
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  What they're doing is really inverting our democracies or you know, republic, if that's the case, uh and giving you communism was out ever saying, well, let's have a referendum on whether or not we want this communist uh identity.
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  Because once you have a situation where you have to agree with your government in order to hold down a job, I think that's communism.
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  And so, you know, if you have to agree with your government on certain speech dictates, and I I looked at all the things that that would get you in hot water with these speech committees.
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  I thought to myself, what are the chances that organically every nation around the world is coming up and harnessing all the people uh in in a certain regulated area, and all of those regulated areas get the same type of speech censorship, and and this and the punishment, of course, is social and economic apartheid.
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  So you, you know, you're you're debating you're almost debanked, you know.
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  I give the example of the Canadian Shruckers if you donated to the trucker convoy, you know, the government uh, you know, took the funds right out of your account, closed that account, and then that followed you, and you were, you know, you were stuck, you were out of society.
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  And so these speech committees, they take away your right to earn a living.
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  And if you're independent, if you're an independent farmer, if you're a small business owner, if you have the ability, your small landowner, or you have independent wealth, or somehow you're an entrepreneur, you might not understand why the rest of the world is silent.
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  So I wrote the book to explain this mechanism that silencing all the regulated professionals and occupation.
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  And at the same time, I wanted to show that um the professions that were independent were being attacked by the same uh government structure.
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  So you have a total silencing that's that's coming around the world.
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  You know, and I can give you examples.
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  In Switzerland, a guy, Alain Bonnet, called a fellow journalist, uh, a fat lesbian, and for his trouble, he ended up being uh charged, and he's you know, faces 60 days in jail.
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  Uh you have Sue Gray in New Zealand, and she had COVID clients where she's challenging the government.
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  She's a lawyer, you should be able to do that.
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  And she had a run-in with her uh, you know, Bar Association.
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  And again, this is a way to censor speech.
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  If you fear, you know, that you won't be able to earn a living, you'll lose your designation, you're gonna be quiet.
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  And we've all seen that with DEI, etc.
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  Yeah.
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  Let me ask you a question about this workplace speech committee.
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  Is this something that is put together in corporations?
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  Is this coming from the human resource department?
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  What what is this committee?
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  Who makes up the committees?
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  These these committees are because you're regulated, like maybe an accountant or a lawyer or a doctor, but increasingly even an electrician.
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  Um, they'll be these speech committees are with unions.
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  What they do now is you thought, well, okay, I'm regulated, I just pay these enormous fees for I have no idea what, and I'll get these courses that I have to take once a year, and I have to do my filings.
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  And that might have been the purpose before for regulating different areas.
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  But now they've added this speech committee, which is uh uh an authorization, I call them truth stampers.
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  And there's key areas.
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  See, there's you know, terrible things that get said all over the place, and terrible things that get posted all over the internet, but they only care about a certain kind of speech.
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  What I found was if you were pro-nation state, you know, you were uh a patriot, if you were uh you know anti you know, you wanted medical uh consent before you took a job, right?
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  If you wanted, you could talk about the vaccine till you blew in the face, but only one side of the topic.
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  You could talk about COVID till you're blue in the face, but only one side of the topic.
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  And then the same thing with you know, LGBT.
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  You could talk gay all day, but you can't go across the transgender movement.
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  You you know, there's key areas.
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  And so what uh my thesis ended up showing was that these the areas that you couldn't speak were pillars of the globalist state.
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  Yeah.
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  That's what it sounds like, yeah.
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  Yeah, the censorship is to a purpose.
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  So i i it does sound like and it felt like it, living through it, that everything that had to do with the one world order, the world economic forum, as long as you were on their side with your speech, then you were safe and you were free to go with what you wanted to say.
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  If you challenged that in any way, even with a question, then
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  Then you were against them and you were silenced, you were censored, and that is what your study to write this book has showed you.
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  Well, it's not just the censorship, it's the idea that you lose the right to earn a living.
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  Because that's really different.
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  Well, and there's self-censorship as well, Lisa.
• 30:17
  You know, there the self-censorship, I think we have all felt.
• 30:21
  I know that I did.
• 30:22
  I I would imagine that you did too.
• 30:24
  So that also is a part of it, isn't it?
• 30:26
  It is a part of it.
• 30:27
  And so the the book, of course, covers four different areas.
• 30:32
  And um the self-censorship is uh uh uh you know evident in all four areas.
• 30:38
  The first is medical.
• 30:39
  And of course, you know, all the doctors that lost their licenses, or um in Canada, we had a lot, and one of the one of the examples is Dr.
• 30:50
  Hoff that I give.
• 30:52
  And he, you know, in in April of 2021, he says, Well, look, I've got I'm very sorry to write this letter, but I've got all of these patients who've had uh, you know, several uh very sad side effects from the vaccine, some very tragic, and he writes the chief medical officer of health, you know, the Fauci in Canada of one of our provinces.
• 31:16
  In 24 hours, she writes to her, you know, without the FOIs, her his lawyers got the FOIs, freedom of information.
• 31:24
  She writes within 25 hours, let's report him to his college, right?
• 31:29
  So for his trouble to let everybody know about the side effects that he was observing directly in his practice, he goes through lawfare.
• 31:40
  He goes, he gets reported to his college and they want his license.
• 31:43
  They want to pull his license.
• 31:45
  So anyone who's a la a doctor watching this, they're not gonna want to speak up.
• 31:51
  Right.
• 31:51
  And of course, the right, the media takes them through.
• 31:54
  So it's they take the titans in all of our professions, the ones who have confidence and who can speak, and they dress them down publicly so everybody else is silent.
• 32:06
  We have we have some here on the network that are very familiar with that.
• 32:10
  Uh we have shows from Dr.
• 32:12
  Mary Tally Bowden.
• 32:14
  We have Dr.
• 32:14
  Peter McCullough who has shows here on the network.
• 32:17
  We have Nurse Jody O'Malley, who's one of the first whistleblowers that was a nurse during COVID, and they all experienced that.
• 32:24
  They all came through that.
• 32:26
  Exactly what you're talking about.
• 32:28
  Yeah, and Mary Tyler Bowden has her own chapter.
• 32:32
  Really?
• 32:33
  Okay.
• 32:33
  Well, she's she's she's on Monday nights right here at five o'clock Eastern time on America Out Loud Talk Radio.
• 32:40
  Oh, that's wonderful.
• 32:40
  And I've been on with uh Dr.
• 32:42
  McCullough as well.
• 32:44
  Uh he's a such a such a lion, uh lion hearted man.
• 32:48
  Um and so at the end, so I decided, well, what's let me scratch the surface.
• 32:52
  What's behind medical?
• 32:54
  And what I found was um an organization called TEDS, TE H DAS.
• 33:03
  And they have been mapping out along with the OECD, uh health care ba by AI.
• 33:12
  And the goal is, and they they set out the laws that you need in place, the AI laws that you need in place.
• 33:20
  The goal is to eliminate our current health care system in its entirety, right?
• 33:27
  So this is what I found, and I found that so health care is defined as nine sectoral data spaces.
• 33:35
  So you're not you're not healthy, you just have a certain set of data.
• 33:39
  And you're not sick, you have a different set of data.
• 33:43
  You're not dead.
• 33:44
  That's another set of data, right?
• 33:46
  So there it's so dehumanizing where they're going.
• 33:50
  And I thought I need to warn the world because the silent doctors, the silent nurses, the silent medical professionals who are afraid of their regulatory body and their speech committees, afraid of losing their license.
• 34:03
  Well, the objective behind this whole speech committee is to keep them silent so there's no counterpoint, and we had towards this AI health care.
• 34:16
  And what they had was the idea of uh semantic, so all the same labels, interoperability.
• 34:23
  They had technical interoperability, so all the computer programs around the world would have the same operability.
• 34:32
  They had nomenclature semantic, they have legal, all the laws that need to be in place in order to upload AI healthcare, uh, are in that chapter.
• 34:45
  And that's, you know, when when Musk uh, you know, is talking about AI, we have to really see that there is a real dehumanization, that we become merely our data and we're going into a huge operating system.
• 35:01
  And so uh, you know, it'd be uh I decided that we, you know, we really need to warn all the medical professionals while we still have strength in the medical profession, so that they can outlaw these speech committees and these bodies, because we're not discussing the most important um things in our society.
• 35:24
  I'd like to say that we're we're going from a rights-based existence to an access-based existence.
• 35:30
  And the mechanisms of how we're doing it are disclosed in the book.
• 35:35
  The name of the book is World on Mute.
• 35:38
  And you are listening to Lisa Myron.
• 35:40
  She's talking about the book and the things that she has found and uh, you know, the arguments that she makes in the book.
• 35:46
  I tell you to go and go to Amazon and find this book.
• 35:50
  It's eight dollars for the electronic version, 24 and 28 for uh the hard copy is is the hardback is 28 dollars I want to go back to something, and by the way, I think the i the argument could be made that artificial intelligence healthcare may have a better bedside manner than some of the doctors that I've had.
• 36:09
  I'll just throw that out there.
• 36:11
  Inverting democracy, you brought that up.
• 36:13
  Can you talk about that a little bit?
• 36:15
  What does that mean to someone listening to this right now?
• 36:18
  Yeah, it's really important.
• 36:19
  When I go into the legal and political other speech committees uh right around the world for you know, your ABA, your Bar Association, your LSO, the Law Society of Ontario, all across the world, the bar associations, are checking out certain kinds of lawyers.
• 36:36
  They're checking out the pro-nation state lawyers, they're checking out the free speech lawyers, and you know, they're checking out the ones who'd have the balls to bring the the cases against um any of the globalist uh mechanisms.
• 36:50
  And so I want you to just envision that you have a constitution, but if you can use uh a rogue power, this power is not defined in our constitution or your constitution, this role power.
• 37:03
  It sits aside, it's a it's a political branch.
• 37:07
  Uh if anything, it's an administrative branch, and I say it's a global beast.
• 37:12
  It's no longer belongs to any any one body, it's a global beast, and they can check out the lawyers uh by saying, Well, that's that's speech you can't have since you said it, uh that's it.
• 37:26
  No more lawyer, and then you wouldn't have uh checks on executive, administrative, or uh pharma or any of the other areas, and so you could literally gerrymander uh all of society, and and and that's what they're doing in every single profession.
• 37:48
  And I thought to myself, well, what would be the worst example?
• 37:52
  Because when I started thinking about these speech committees, how awful they were, um, I thought, well, what would be the worst example?
• 37:59
  I thought, well, what if you couldn't say something even in a pleading?
• 38:03
  Right?
• 38:03
  The the remedy is always, you know, the court says no.
• 38:06
  Right.
• 38:07
  And so what I saw was uh lawyers disbarred.
• 38:11
  Well, you know, you could just look at the Trump uh cases.
• 38:15
  What could be less of an insurrection than to asking a court to take a look at a fact pattern and put the law there and hand it over very politely in your high heel shoes or your great suit and wait for the judge make your arguments and wait for the judge.
• 38:33
  The idea that you disbarred Trump's lawyers really gave me the idea.
• 38:37
  Well, geez, you that that's pleading speech.
• 38:41
  Yeah.
• 38:41
  And then the lawyers that I spoke to who are bringing, you know, vaccine cases around the world, what I was seeing is that they're getting punished themselves.
• 38:51
  And so then you have the I it there are cases where people can't even find lawyers because they're too afraid of their professional body.
• 39:00
  Yeah, I believe that I believe that's probably the case, no doubt about that.
• 39:04
  Uh attorney Lynn Wood, do you remember him?
• 39:06
  Do you know him?
• 39:07
  Are you familiar with his story?
• 39:09
  Yeah, I mean that that was uh everything that you're talking about on steroids.
• 39:14
  You know, the Bar Association of Georgia really they ended up basically taking his law license, although he said he was retiring it.
• 39:22
  He was in a huge fight there because he challenged the election of 2020.
• 39:27
  And I think that's a a great example of exactly what you're talking about.
• 39:31
  Her name is Lisa Myron.
• 39:33
  The name of the book is World on Mute.
• 39:35
  You can find it at Amazon.
• 39:37
  And Lisa, I want to thank you so much for doing this work for getting it out there, letting people uh consider it and have this perception.
• 39:45
  And I also want to thank you for coming on the program tonight.
• 39:48
  It has been a pleasure to talk to you.
• 39:50
  Thank you so much for having me.
• 39:51
  And um, you can also find me at lawyer Lisa dot substack.com and uh would love all your support.
• 39:58
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• 42:19
  Joining the conversation now is a guy who is uh motivated by something you may not have heard about, but yet it is making its way through general assemblies around the country.
• 42:29
  And it's so important for us to get active locally.
• 42:33
  And right now is the time to do that in general assemblies because in a couple of months they're going to be closed down for the year.
• 42:39
  There's a small window of time where you can get things done, and then that state's assembly is shut down for the year, and you're gonna have to wait six or seven more months before they come back into session.
• 42:49
  Going to introduce you now to Diego Rivera, and you can follow him on social media, by the way, X Twitter at Diego for Liberty.
• 42:59
  And he is working on something with the National Guard.
• 43:02
  So, Diego, first, welcome to the program and kind of tell us a little bit about what this is all about.
• 43:08
  Yeah, so this is uh by far the coolest thing I've ever been a part of, and I've been a part of a couple things.
• 43:13
  So uh this is uh legislation that says that without a formal declaration of war, as prescribed by the Constitution that calls for Congress to formally declare war, that the states will uh withhold their National Guard from going into overseas active combat.
• 43:32
  So in the past, uh National Guard have been used a lot in our foreign conflicts, and a lot of the foreign conflicts, especially over the last 25 years, there has been no declaration from Congress that we are in a war, and they simply are conflicts, but yet National Guard troops are being used around the world.
• 43:51
  Simply put, you're trying to get it passed where Congress has to say we are in a war before someone in the federal government can say we're gonna take Alabama's National Guard and go put them in Iraq.
• 44:03
  Correct.
• 44:03
  And so it's true, and and you qualified it.
• 44:06
  So you said within the last 25 years, and I'd say that's right.
• 44:09
  Um, before that, you know, is it was preposterous to think of the National Guard going into overseas active combat.
• 44:15
  And also it's been a dereliction of duty from Congress because they haven't declared war since 1942 against Romania, Bulgaria, and Hungary.
• 44:24
  And as a consequence, how many wars have we won since we've stopped declaring wars?
• 44:29
  Well, and we have almost been in a continuous war for the last 20 to 25 years, ever since uh 9-11.
• 44:36
  It seems like we have been in a constant battle.
• 44:39
  An interesting thing I saw when I looked at your social media platform, uh, Twitter X specifically, and I mentioned your handle on where people can find you, is how full your timeline was of all these different state cases.
• 44:54
  Are you the one organizing this?
• 44:57
  Tell us what that's like and how it works and what it looks like because I think it's so important, and when it comes to election integrity and those types of things, we're kind of missing the boat because those are all state issues, and for some reason we cannot put the pressure on state legislators to do something about it until it's too late.
• 45:16
  And uh, so what does that look like from a grassroots effort to have such success?
• 45:23
  Because you're all you're getting this done in a lot of states, aren't you?
• 45:25
  Yeah, so we're filed in about 30 states right now.
• 45:28
  Um, and it is the efforts of grassroots.
• 45:32
  Uh, you know, I wish that we could say that we're some big organization, and that was our sole purpose and all this stuff, but it really is just a grassroots desire to get this done.
• 45:41
  And let me just say this as a qualifier to anybody that might, if you're hearing this in the sound of my voice and you've never gotten involved with grassroots before, I urge you to get involved.
• 45:52
  Let me also preface this by saying you're gonna screw it up.
• 45:55
  You're gonna do things poorly.
• 45:57
  You're not gonna know what to do.
• 45:59
  So it's better to get involved and figure out okay, let me help someone first.
• 46:04
  Let me be a part of this, find something you care about, get involved, learn what the process is, go through the motions, figure out how to do it right, figure out the skills that it takes, and then from there you can move on to your pet project.
• 46:17
  Um, but if you're hearing this for the first time and no one's ever told you to show up, show up because this really does take people, regular people, to make these sorts of changes.
• 46:27
  But again, yeah, we are uh scheduled in about 30 states.
• 46:31
  And how how did the how did that process come about for you guys?
• 46:34
  Uh, because that's not easy.
• 46:36
  Uh I think it's lost on people uh how difficult it is to organize in a way that it is in 30 different states general assemblies.
• 46:45
  It's uh it's a difficult process to have that organization.
• 46:48
  How did it work for you guys?
• 46:50
  Oh man, so first we started off.
• 46:52
  So bring our troops on initially started off uh with the intention of going to Congress where we had uh, you know, just recently we had our fifth year anniversary.
• 47:02
  Um, but uh the president Dan McKnight, his purpose was to get together and as veterans, we were gonna show up to DC and we were gonna tell them, hey, we want an end to these unconstitutional and endless wars, and they were gonna go.
• 47:15
  Great point, and they were just gonna end the wars.
• 47:17
  And you know, I don't know if you know that didn't work out.
• 47:20
  Uh so from there we focused on a bill that was written up by the 10th Amendment Center and has been championed um by people like Pat McGeehan over in West Virginia.
• 47:31
  Um, it's a legislation, the legislation we're talking about, and from there, uh the grassroots efforts behind this is tiresome because uh I have to find uh bill sponsors.
• 47:43
  I have to find people that are brave enough to put this forward that will take the arrows.
• 47:48
  I have to educate them on uh what's in it.
• 47:51
  You know, I have to educate them on this because most people don't understand because for most state legislators, they've never thought about um foreign policy.
• 47:59
  Most state legislators don't understand the constitution, so you kind of have to educate these people that are willing to be educated that are willing to fight for this, but even just I just recently explained the process of what it would take from even just the filing to get it through a committee.
• 48:15
  Well, in order to get it to committee, we have to force leadership to assign it to a committee.
• 48:19
  After it gets assigned to a committee, we have to force them to hear it.
• 48:23
  After they hear it, we have to force them to vote on it.
• 48:26
  Then people think that that's the end.
• 48:28
  No, we also have to force them to pass it.
• 48:30
  Yeah.
• 48:31
  So it's a struggle every single cent of the way.
• 48:34
  And the problem is is that the generals, the Pentagon, DC, the establishment never fail to show up to bully the politicians and politicians to go towards a path of least resistance.
• 48:47
  And so if the grassroots isn't there, but the generals are, the politicians will squish, they will bend, and they will try to kill this bill.
• 48:55
  It is only when the grassroots shows up at every single step that I just articulated that we get this bill through.
• 49:02
  Diego, I think the points that you just brought up are so important in understanding the process of it's a civics lesson, is what you just gave us, really, on how to get something passed in a legislator in a state.
• 49:16
  But now you mentioned that are you doing this alone, or do you have other people helping you?
• 49:21
  Because you mentioned having to reach out to first find the right type of state legislator that would take on your fight.
• 49:28
  So is this something you're doing alone, or do you have a little bit of help here?
• 49:33
  Well, bring our troops home is three people.
• 49:35
  And we do do this with local on-the-ground activists, but as far as organization, I I cover grassroots.
• 49:42
  There's a comms director, and then there's Dan the president.
• 49:45
  Um, but it's uh when I say we're grassroots, yeah, we're grassroots.
• 49:50
  Yeah.
• 49:50
  But it is really interesting to hear the steps in the process because you do have to find the right politician to take it on.
• 49:58
  And this goes for anything.
• 50:00
  If you're listening to this and you say, I want this to happen in my state, this is the process that you have to go through.
• 50:05
  So I think it's important to get active.
• 50:08
  And like Diego said a few minutes ago, uh, be a part of something before you jump in to take on whatever it is that you have in your mind that you want to take on.
• 50:19
  But again, you have to find that politician, then you have to get them to assign it in a committee, and then in the committee, you have to have a hearing, and then from the hearing, it would eventually hopefully uh go for a vote.
• 50:33
  So those are all the steps, aren't they, Diego?
• 50:35
  Yes, it is.
• 50:36
  And let me just add so that people feel that I'm not coming today.
• 50:39
  Like if they think that it's impossible to ever get to the point that they can learn, I promise I'm not smarter than anybody that's listening to this.
• 50:46
  I'll give you a perfect example.
• 50:48
  I've knocked doors for candidates.
• 50:50
  The first time I ever knocked a door, I did it awkwardly.
• 50:53
  The person to open the door.
• 50:54
  I failed to articulate myself.
• 50:56
  I stammered, I stuttered.
• 50:58
  The person just closed the door on me, just slammed the door in my face.
• 51:01
  Now, I could get to the point just a few weeks later where I had people literally come open the door, pull a gun out on me, and I could turn that around and be like, I see you're a fan of the second amendment, you're gonna love my candidate.
• 51:15
  And by the end of that interaction, have their vote.
• 51:19
  So it when I say just get involved, get involved, because if if I can go from stuttering and stammering and just failing to use words at a door to turning a hostile interaction into a vote, you can too.
• 51:33
  It takes practice no matter what we do in life, and this is another example of that.
• 51:38
  I think it's a great cause what you're trying to do.
• 51:40
  And it really sounds like you've had success.
• 51:43
  There's only three of you in the organization.
• 51:46
  I want you to tell that organization again, but there's three of you, and you have legislation in 30 states.
• 51:53
  Are all 30 states going to be able to vote on that in this session?
• 51:57
  Or is this also another part of the process that could go into next year and the year after?
• 52:02
  It's unlikely that all 30, uh, just because we have to figure out how to allocate resources as best as we can.
• 52:08
  And so, for example, I'll give you uh so in Missouri in Missouri, it's been filed, so that's awesome on the Bill Champion.
• 52:15
  But also we have to and now encourage leadership to assign it to a committee.
• 52:19
  We have to encourage the committee chairman to schedule it for a hearing.
• 52:23
  We have to then call the rest of the members of the committee uh there to call them and uh tell them that we want this heard, voted, and passed, right?
• 52:32
  Because sometimes they might hear it, but they won't vote on it because politicians don't like to actually put up then they don't like to go on record.
• 52:39
  And then so if they do go on record, they're still going to try to kill it, so they'll vote against it.
• 52:43
  So we have to urge them to go against their neck net excuse me, natural inclination, which is to vote against it and then to actually do the right thing.
• 52:51
  So that's hard enough.
• 52:52
  And so we have to figure out where our fights are, and with the limited resources that we have, we can't always do that as you know, in every state equally.
• 53:01
  Um some people just show up for certain amount of fights, and if we had a bigger pool from which to organize the these grassroots efforts, we could potentially do it, but it's just not possible with um with what we have.
• 53:17
  So, like in New Hampshire, we've passed the House, and that took a large effort because that was endless amount of petitioning, endless amount of door knocking, lit dropping, phone banking, calling the committees, educating them.
• 53:30
  They'd have a response.
• 53:32
  We have a response back.
• 53:33
  Some states say, look, the attorney general says it's unconstitutional.
• 53:37
  We'll have a constitutional scholar write them back and say, actually, no, the attorney general is completely wrong on this issue, and here's why.
• 53:44
  So it's not it's not going to be equal at every state, but it also, depending on the state of which you're hearing this, your involvement changes how likely that is because maybe in your state it's not even filed, or maybe it's filed, but there's no one showing up to fight for it.
• 53:59
  And that political pressure makes all the difference in the world with politicians, because that that's all they they count on your vote.
• 54:06
  And if you're the one calling them and complaining and wanting something to get passed, they're much more likely to hear you and listen to you.
• 54:14
  Uh let's go back to Missouri real quick because you mentioned uh a timing on that.
• 54:20
  When does their session end in Missouri?
• 54:22
  Because it's it's usually what May or June, sometime in there that most of these states shut down their assembly.
• 54:28
  So you have limited time every year that the assembly comes into session.
• 54:32
  Correct.
• 54:33
  So uh and I would say most states by the time you get to Mayor June, they've already had signed die.
• 54:39
  So uh like late states like North Carolina would see an end towards uh June, but most of them wrap up after three or four months.
• 54:48
  So by April, these guys are already back home.
• 54:51
  Diego, if you could tell everybody again the organization where they can go to find out what it is you guys are doing and the the two other names that are involved with that, and then also tell everybody how they can follow you on social media, kind of just tell everybody where they can find you guys.
• 55:08
  Sure.
• 55:08
  Uh so the organization was founded by Dan McKnight, and you can find that at uh bring our troops home.us.
• 55:14
  So that's a website.
• 55:15
  Our main project that we focus on is defend the guard legislation.
• 55:19
  So you can go to DefendtheGuard.us.
• 55:21
  And so we have a really good guy that puts all this together that does wonderful write-ups.
• 55:25
  He's our comms director, Hunter Durensis, and uh you can follow the Troops Home Social at at uh at Troops Home US.
• 55:34
  So if you follow that on uh Twitter, and uh for me, if you want to email me or find me, contact, I will help you throughout the process of doing this.
• 55:44
  I encourage you to help if this is something that you care about as well, because it's not just again about this issue, is that you can a lot of the skills that you'll learn, the tools that you'll use, you can apply that to your thing too, and you can start to watch your project grow as well.
• 56:00
  And so if you want to, um I'm not big on social, but Diego for Liberty on on uh the Twitter and uh Diego at Bring Our Troops Home.net.
• 56:12
  So I know the websites are dot us, but for the email, it's dot net.
• 56:15
  And so if you just type in D I E G O at Bringer Troops Home.net, you can do that.
• 56:21
  And if you don't have time, you're busy, you got a family.
• 56:23
  Uh, maybe this seems a little bit too cumbersome.
• 56:26
  You can always donate because, like I said, we're grassroots, and that's uh 107club.com.
• 56:31
  That's all spelled out.
• 56:32
  Diego Rivera is who you are listening to, and again, what they are trying to accomplish.
• 56:37
  And you've heard a civics lesson here on how you go about doing that.
• 56:41
  But what they are trying to accomplish is take away the ability of anyone in the federal government to send our National Guard troops overseas to fight a war that has not been declared a war by the Congress.
• 56:54
  And that's me just simplifying what they are trying to do, and they're trying to get this done through state legislatures across the country.
• 57:01
  So great great work, Diego.
• 57:03
  Good luck.
• 57:04
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  I'm Booker Scott, and you were told two thousand years ago that you are the salt of the earth and salt without flavor, it has no value.
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