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Nathan Richardson: Salt Creek · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

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It's so far that in a crime. At the time, I'm just being
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my phone. Today we have Nathan from Salt Creek with us. We're super
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stoked to ch out with you. Nathan. Salt Creeks one of those bands
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that one of those tooth and nail bands that I think is one of the
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more underrated bands on the label currently. I mean, you guys are absolutely
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incredible and more people should know about you. So that's why we wanted to
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get you on the podcast. Maybe we can make a couple more fans for
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you, guys, but we're really stoked to have you. How are you
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doing today, dude, I'm doing good. Just got off work. I'm
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still at work, but doing good. Yeah, you're in You're in the
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screen pretty shop right now, aren't you. Yeah. We have like our
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offices are partially disconnected. Like there's like the office and then there's a the
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print shop. So I'm in the office. Everybody's at home. I think
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our graphic designers still here like goofing around, but that's about it. Are
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you guys able to basically print all of your merch then, like that's kind
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of be a kind of nice gig. If you're a screen printer and then
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you're also in a band. Yeah. Our our shop, so we have
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like four autos, so we do like like five to ten k shirts a
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day, and then we do embroidery too, so we we do all our
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own merch. The only thing is I have been lazy to actually put it
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online. M I think the only thing is that's up is on a merch
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now store. But I need to because I mean, we even have people
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that do fulfillment all day long. So I'm yeah, I'm failing at the
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arch game for actual assault drink though, so you gotta get any gear man,
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you really do. Yeah, what you're drinking there is that some tang.
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No, it's pre workout. I'm a psychopath and just drink pre workout
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as a drink. It's so you can like put as may scoops as you
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want, so like I think it only has like a hundred grams or milligrams
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of caffeine, so it's not it's like a seeda, but like it's a
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little bit healthier for you. And I'm gonna go work out after this,
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so it doesn't make you feel like your skin's gonna crawl right off your your
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your bones. Nah me and this other sales dude at Relentless both used to
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drink those bang energy drinks and that stuff would just it lit you up.
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So this stuff is a lot more tame, and I don't know, it's
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a lot nicer on your body. I think, so. I was.
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I was really hoping you were actually gonna say it was tang. Dude,
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I wish it was tang. Is that stuff still a thing? I'm sure
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it is. All I remember is that orangutang on those commercials? Do you
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remember those? I have like nostalgia, um, like deep in my soul
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of that orangutang, like smacking around this like the camera on those commercials.
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I don't. I don't know why. It's one of those things that just
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sticks with me. I think as a Nebraskan, I'm supposed to say that
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kool Aid is a lot better, But I just like orange drinks and I
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think Tank ripped it in. Uh, kool Aid never got the orange thing
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down that well. So respectfully, of course, I'm really glad you have
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an opinion on that that that is an opinion worth having and voicing. Yeah,
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thank you. If you need to cut that part out of the show,
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I get it. No, no, that is perfect the that's the
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content our listeners go for tangover kool Aid. Sorry Nebraskans, But is kool
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Aida Nebraska company? Yeah, dude, what Hastings, Nebraska. Um,
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they actually still do a kool Aid days in the summer, so you can
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go try out like any new flavors there used to be like a lot of
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I think they used to use are like our like state as like a taste
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testing or like a I don't know what you call that when you like put
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out samples. But yeah, we get these weird like dinosaur theme flavors.
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Back in the day they were sick. But yeah, not as wild anymore.
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I don't think the company's actually in Nebraska anymore, but started in started
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in Hastings, so what Yeah, those big corn syrup companies, I guess
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they you know, they needed to branch out in as many ways as possible,
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right, dude? Love that powder drink? You know it's it's great,
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that's wild. Why did I not know that I'm your neighbor to the
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north, y'all goofing? What do you guys got you got any drinks?
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I don't know what South? What do we have South Dakota style church and
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seeds. Yeah, and weird politicians. I don't know, you know that
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weird politician. That's our governor. She was my Sunday school teacher. Man.
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We're about to experience that same thing for Nebraska. So well, here
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for it. You're ready, buckle up. Let's talk Salt Creek, the
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second best thing that's come out of Nebraska besides kool aid. Let's talk about
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how you guys started. I mean, it's not that long ago that you
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guys started as a band, but I'm sure you guys were all doing music
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prior to then. Yeah, talk a little bit about kind of those beginning
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years. Yeah, the drummer and I had been in a band called Lighthouses.
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We toured a good chunk and then after that was kind of like dissolving.
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Our friend Ransom was like, you guys need to start a band that
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with this dude named Chase, which is our you know, our vocalist,
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and yeah, just Ransom kind of spearheaded everything and then he ended up like
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quitting the band before it even announced and is now also a plug for him.
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Grand Avenue Tattoo in uh in the Twin Cities is sick. He owns
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that. But yeah, he started the band and then got us all together
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and we just kind of kept going with it. And yeah, we're all
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we were all kind of friends before starting the band, so it was very
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natural. But he just kind of pushed us into each other. So so
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when you guys were looking for a lead singer, were you guys looking for
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a guy that looks like post Malone without the face stats? You know,
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Chase doesn't like to be called or stated that he looks like post Malone,
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but dude, he looks like post Malone's. Yeah, he's not gonna get
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away from it. Um, well, he's gotta get rid of it.
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He's got to get rid of like, you know, the dirty mullet if
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you if he wants to, if he wants to separate himself from post Malone,
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he's got He's got a good look though. You got that guy.
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He's a good looking boy. Yeah. But and honestly, like, have
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you heard post Malone liked grunge type music? Like they're not all that different
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of singers too. It's amazing, it's amazing. Had Like some of country
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covers are like what how does this guy do this? Yeah? And Chase
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also has a country solo project. So they are living you know, parallel
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lives totally quite literally. All right, So you guys started, uh you
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know when when you guys were pretty young, At what point did you kind
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of get to this sense like, oh, this is like a thing that
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we're gonna do and uh, you know, hopefully maybe we can get signed
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one day. Like was there ever a point where you guys realize like that
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could be a thing that would happened in your career. Um? Yeah,
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I feel like right away we were traveling and touring a lot. Our first
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show was out of state. We just kind of went one hundred percent when
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we start did and just hope for the best. But yeah, we uh,
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we didn't really have any game plan of getting signed. Um, like
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we there have been like labels that talked to us kind of you know from
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the beginning that were hecklers, and we're just like dude, like, you
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know, if if it's right, sick, But you know, we uh,
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I don't know, we kind of had a game plan already. I
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was self employed already, so I kind of knew like what it would take
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and then like what you know, we needed it to do to make it,
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you know, something happen, but you know it's kind of serious right
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away. But yeah, I mean you get you guys like really hit it
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off quick. I mean it seemed like it was like almost right away,
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you guys were like catching pretty good steam. I'm curious how Tooth and Nail
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came in the picture in particular, um to the Nail it it was kind
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of a little bit. Uh, our our friends Tiger Wine, UM,
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which our guitar player is actually recording a new record right now. MS dude
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their new shit. It's it's great. I I'm I don't know their biggest
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fan, but uh yeah, we go way back with those dudes. But
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uh yeah, we talked to them. They really liked working with Tooth and
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Nail. And then uh yeah, just kind of our management was talking at
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that time, our management was talking with another band about signing with Tooth and
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Nail. I think something fell through and then they're like, hey, like
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we also have you know, uh this other band, and Adam was like,
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oh, I've heard of them and I like that band. Let's and
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we were we had like an EP that we had worked on. So like
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our our manager at the time just sent their stuff and uh they liked it,
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so you know it worked out. Dude, that's sick. That doesn't
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happen often. I can't imagine. I mean, like just knowing that you
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have that kind of talent, that kind of sound right away, that's just
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immediately marketable to um, you know, not only audiences but also the record
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labels. It's got to feel very you know, you know, confident in
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yours. Just got to be a lot of confidence in yourself. You know,
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I'm definitely lucky to have a very good crew and we we just were
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very fortunate. Yeah, So I'm curious, like with that Tooth and Nail
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signing. They're a lot of the like newer bands that we we've chatted with,
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they had grown up with Tooth and Nail. You know, at that
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point Tooth and Nail had, you know, when we were all growing up,
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Tooth and Nail had become a really big label in a lot of ways,
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you know, with the nineties punk stuff and then you have the metal
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um metal stuff and even some of the emo stuff in the two thousands.
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UM that really made the label quite successful. And so that's why we know
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about it. Did you guys grow up with Tooth and Nail? Was that
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like a label that you guys maybe had some fondness over or had grown up
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with where you were like, wait, this is kind of a dream come
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true. This is a label that we had grown up listening to, and
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now we have the opportunity to be with them. Um. Not really,
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I feel like I knew who they were. I was really into new metal
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and still very much into like hard rock, and you know, I listened
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to more of the Bridge Nine, like post hardcore hardcore stuff, and then
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listened to new metal and kind of missed out on the Christian post hardcore.
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Other than I went to church and this one guy did a sermon on youth
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group and showed the under Oath like documentary, and so I was like,
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oh, like what's this? And I got a couple other records off of
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I think it was like called what Scene it was download site and stole a
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bunch of the Tooth and Nail catalog. I still don't think I've actually paid
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for a Tooth and Nail record, um, other than I think we paid
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for, you know, some of our vinyl, but other than Blood,
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Sweat and Tears, you know, for your record. Yeah. I don't
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know if Adam's going to hear this, but you know, I just stole
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all their music, and uh, I don't plan on paying for any other
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other records, so you know, I guess I do with streaming, but
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yeah, I just stole their catalog and you know, liked a lot of
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the bands right away, and uh, you know, listen to shit on
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MySpace, So that's the way to do it. Do you remember a little
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website called pure Volume dude, Yeah, same time. Yeah, I used
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to scroll that and get the just download anything that said free download, I
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clean on it or whatever, and yeah, I think that was that had
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to have been like the openings, like the gates opening for so many people
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to that that kind of scene. And I feel like you guys, you
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know, not maybe not just you, maybe the rest of the band as
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well, we're kind of in that scene to start with, maybe like some
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emo, maybe some some hardcore, maybe some some metalcore and stuff like that.
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I catch influences here and there and everywhere. Obviously you guys kind of
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have like a in my opinion, I would call you like a like a
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post grunge emo. Yeah, that's what I would call you now. So
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I feel like you have to have been drawing from some influences like that.
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Yeah, I definitely think we're kind of in that world. But also I'm
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curious. Maybe we should talk about this afterwards, but there's probably so many
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cringe South Dakota Nebraska bands that we both correlate on. But we'll have to
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we'll have to do that list not when people are listening, because there's probably
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some stuff I want to shit talk more than I want to praise. But
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are you guys from Watertown? We are? Yeah? Do you remember like
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the jeff you did your research? Man? No one ever knows what?
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Dude? I facebookd y'all and I was like, who are these guys?
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Because I didn't want to be I didn't want to come unprepared. Do you
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remember like Jefferson South Dakota shows and no, oh man, there was like,
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uh like four today and a lot of that crew used to play Jefferson's
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near Sioux City? Right, what's up jeff Jefferson's near Sioux City. Yeah,
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but yeah, that was like such a weird and cool anomaly. I
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guess you guys are is that four hours north of it? So yeah,
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that's about three and a half four hours north, So like, yeah,
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we were like if we went to shows. They were typically pretty local or
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Sioux Falls, which is north of Sioux City there. Yeah, like Cullen
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and I went to Life Light every year, do you remember, yeah,
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which yeah, yeah, that's that's like a big you know, gateway drug
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too, you know heavy music as well. I always played in bands that,
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uh played Life Light, but I never played Life Like. I just
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would either stop playing in the band or there's some reason. I don't know,
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but anti Christian festival motto, h dude, I still print per Lifelight.
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I don't know if they've been doing anything lately, but I don't know
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if the festival is happening anymore. Like the organization still exists, but I
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don't think they do the festival anymore. Yeah, I know they did like
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a traveling one, but that I think that's been two years. I ought
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to reach out and be like, what are you guys doing now? I
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know one of the guys had like a barbecue company, but yeah, rest
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in peace man. That thing was cool. Oh it's great, and he
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got it was huge for a while. I mean I still remember, like,
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you know, if it had like switch Foot or Newsboys as a as
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a headliner, they would get two hundred and fifty thousand people over the weekend.
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That's a massive freaking festival. Dude. Anytime I can see Family Force
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five and see some fucking motorcross bikes jump over the stage, dude, I'm
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oh, that's it. You're sold and it's free. You could just walk
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in. That's great. Yeah. Also, what are those Family Force five
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guys doing these days? That ship was so corny, but also like I
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loved it so much. Yeah, you're not the only one, man,
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I'm gonna I'm gonna find them on Honestly, I I've always made I've made
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the argument that Family Force five it was one of the few Christian bands that
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actually invented a genre that actually became bigger in the mainstream, like krunk core.
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Krunk core was the thing that they created. There were really, dude,
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there was no other krunk core band out there. They were the kids
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bop version of krunk core. Like, let's be real, but they made
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it so popular. There was that Never Shout Never guy that was doing the
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krunk core thing or whatever that that all came out after after Family Force five.
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Yes, that album, Yes, Never Shouting Ever. It's three like
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three h three like that whole band. All of those came after Family Forced
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Five's first album. You're probably right, but also I don't want to give
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that to them. Hey, I've made I've made the argument too that you
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could make a you can make a case that Pod invented new metal. Yo.
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Pod had an album that came out before Corn did. Yeah, that's
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too. Yeah, those guys are old as shit, I think, is
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what you're saying. But also, h do you want to give that to
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Pod? Yeah? I do. I fuck with Pod, like I all.
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Yeah, I don't know if there's like an amount that I can cuss
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on this, but I I love Pod, that's all. I don't know
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what those guys do anymore. I know they tour, they're still making music
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with them, but that's all I got. I love Pod. Yeah,
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Satellite record like you know, they have that dude from Brains on it,
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like Howard Benson did it. Yeah, dude game on it, rips all
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the way through. Yeah, all right, let's go back to Salt Creek
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though. So Salt Creek a couple of epeas record in twenty twenty one.
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You guys have been a band for what like eight years now total, I
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think five or six But I did you guys start in like twenty and sixteen?
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Maybe it was fourteen. I'll google it and see what's up. I
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have to look at our face. Spotify says twenty seventeen. Twenty seventeen.
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Okay, so I want what you say about that, but it's it's got
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to feel like, um, it's got to feel like like kind of like
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a whirlwind. I mean, there's not a lot of Nebraska bands that do
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this kind of thing, right, not really. There's a there's a couple.
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I'm looking at our I'm like, when did we start? I know
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there is a demo? Is a demo off? I hope it's off of
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our Twenty sixteen is when we put it out. Um, so six years,
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six years. There's a band from Linking called Social Cinema that's gigging a
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lot there. I think they honestly tour harder than us. And then there's
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a I mean, Omaha has had their folk indie breakthroughs, but I don't
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know in the hard rock realm, there's a couple bands. But yeah,
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it's it's kind of an anomaly for Nebraska. But I also think if a
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band happened in Nebraska, there would be more bands in Nebraska. So yeah,
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I don't give a shit if it's my band. To be transparent,
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I just want a band from Nebraska to pop off so other bands from Nebraska
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get more recognition. But it is weird that Bright Eyes was one of those
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bands that, I mean, just out of all the bands in the world
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that could become a big Nebraska band, the sound of Bright Eyes being that
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kind of band that's so weird to me. Yeah, I mean it's sick
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that like desper Citos and like like Cursive happened, and like the Faint,
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like the whole style of Creek thing is sick. But yeah, it is
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weird that it like that is the Nebraska sound. Like there's not like a
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huge country artist from here that I write. That's that's like when I think
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of probably the artists that Nebraskans are, Nebraskans are listening to most probably country,
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right, and it's weird to think that that's not the kind of artist
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that's the most known coming out of Nebraska. Are there. It's just not
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red enough. I guess, I don't know, they got down just your
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stadiums are red man. Yeah, I love country though, but yeah,
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I don't know. Nebraska is weird. It is weird. It really is,
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because it's it's a it's it's a bigger state than most people would imagine,
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right, I mean yeah, like I live in a city that has
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a you know, like ten Starbucks, so you know, like we're we're
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not uneducated or like, you know, completely fucking like a lot of people
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think, I'm sorry, that is that is that is the quote of the
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night with ten Starbucks. Yeah, yeah, fuck off, I live in
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a city with ten Starbucks. But you know what I mean, Like Nebraska
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is big er than people think. But yeah, I don't know, it's
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a weird place. It is. People like being comfortable in Nebraska, and
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I think that's uh a blessing and a curse. And I think a lot
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of bands like we'll start getting some some push and then they just love the
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comfort over the you know, the discomfort and of the road. And I
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get it. I still I'm like thirty one, still doing this band stuff,
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and I uh, every once so while I'm like, man, this
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sucks, like we could totally just not do this and it would be great,
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But you know, then there's this other part of me that's like fucking
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like I'm already this far deep, let's go. Yeah, there must be
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something even more beyond that. I mean, it takes a lot of energy
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and time and effort and to be in a band, and so like there
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must be something really fulfilling about being in a band, even at this age.
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And uh, yeah, I'm curious what that is for you, Like
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what what's the itch that's being scratched by being in Salt Creek for you?
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You know, when when you find that uh special something you know? No,
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I don't know, um, transpar you are you talking about narcissism?
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Dude, I think so, um, But I don't know. I just
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I like writing music and hanging out with my friends, and tooth and nail
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made me able to record for free and uh like put out records, so
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I uh, I just enjoy the process. I playing live is cool,
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but yeah, I just I like the hangs a lot and uh like playing
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guitar. So yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like I don't know
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if you did any sports in high school or anything like that, but it's
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almost like the saying of like, yeah, I really liked playing football in
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high school, but I liked the bus rides more. Yeah, basically,
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I mean I feel like that's like pretty clol the friends we made along the
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way. I like to think of it as like stock car racing, Like
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those fools spend like, you know, twenty Nebraska, like the dirt track
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racing. Those fools spend so much money on their car and then uh,
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you know, like they running around the track for fifteen twenty minutes and they
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spend all this money to do that one thing. But dude, they're they're
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just they're about the beers and the dugout, you know, like, yeah,
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they love the community and they love the hangs and the meeting people along
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the way. So yeah, man, and are you big into like like
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stock car and stuff like that. No, but I used to go when
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I was a kid. Uh, and I still go every once in a
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while because I think it's just sick that, you know, it's like these
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guys that are literally the same as me, that are just like jumping in
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a car and gassing it. You know, Yeah, it's a pretty badass.
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But I think that is that that is kind of like an Upper Midwest
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or Great Planes kind of thing. Is like the romanticism even around like the
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sound on Sunday nights of the stock car races that you can hear all the
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way across town. Do you know that feeling it's it's like rev Yeah.
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Yeah, man, it's a thing. Dude, getting that dirt like just
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shoved in your face. You know, when the cars are spinning around the
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track. It's just sick, dude, smelly. I don't know. I
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still like a fanboy over like some of the people I used to see when
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I was a kid, Like they'd come into like the Casey's and I'd be
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at Casey's gas station and yeah, I'd be like, dude, that's that's
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so and so. But and they all had the same shirt design. Yeah,
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that'sh it sick. Though it is sick, it's pretty sick. It
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needs to be like like Salt Critic's next band shirt. There you go.
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Yeah, I feel like that's more of an Aaron GLISPI thing, like he
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really likes to look like he's really into Nascar, so we'll let him have
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it. But here, do you do you think he actually really likes Nascar?
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Dude, I don't know what I mean. He is from the South.
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He probably is pretty. I mean, he probably is pretty, like
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you know, pretty Southern in that way. But does he really like Nascar?
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I bet he does. Like he's no phony, Uh, he's he's
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pretty exactly what he uh, you know, puts out into the world.
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So I think he probably likes Nascar. I bet he does. Yeah,
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you can't with how much he loves Nascar, you know, totally, that
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made no sense. Colin and I have talked about this before, where the
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South in particular, especially within the solid State tooth and Nail world, there
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were so many bands coming out of the South that were fucking incredible bands under
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Oath, Norma Jeane, the Chariot, Mainlands and Sons of Sons of Disaster.
26:11
You know, all these bands are coming out of the South, and
26:14
we've we kind of had this theory that, you know, there's something about
26:17
being in the South that creates this anks and this artistry that's unmatched and unparalleled
26:23
and creates this really great music that's really great heavy music. I'm curious,
26:26
like, do you think there's something about living in Nebraska that creates the sound
26:32
for you guys and kind of the sound that you guys have ended up falling
26:36
into. Um, I definitely think so. I think we all have different
26:41
uh, things we've like listened to or been around or you know, most
26:48
of us are from small towns, so we uh, you know, wore
26:52
the Black Sheep of Hey, somebody should start our small towns. So it's
26:59
only fitting that it would cause that. But yeah, it is interesting seeing
27:04
how many bands from that world were from the South, and uh, you
27:08
know, I always think it's probably because what's that dude from Furnace Fest that
27:14
you guys just interviewed John? Yeah, like he he was from uh is
27:19
it Alabama, I don't know, somewhere in the South. But I feel
27:25
like he probably had all these bands surrounding him that are super good, kind
27:29
of like the you know, the Saddle Creek thing, all the all the
27:33
homies you know, ended up blowing up to and you know, ended up
27:37
making a successful career out of music because uh, you know, Connor like
27:41
spreaded his wings and you know it's kind of sick thing. But yeah,
27:48
yeah, man, I'm about it. Though. Do you think that there's
27:52
um that there's a more developed Nebraska sound coming leading the way. I don't
28:02
think we're leading any of the current bands along the way. There's some younger
28:07
bands that I feel like are like, oh, these guys are kind of
28:11
like loud rock, like like loud grunge rock, like we fuck with that,
28:15
like yeah, you know, and are kind of going that realm.
28:18
But I don't know, we'll see. I I also think in this world,
28:26
like you know, with technology, people can be whatever they want to
28:30
be being like get influenced with whatever they you know, run into a lot
28:34
easier. So Um, there's a lot of cool indie bands coming from Nebraska.
28:40
Like one of my co workers plays in a really good ska band,
28:42
so Um, which is only fitting for Nebraska. But oh wow, yeah,
28:51
but is that the name of the band. No, it's twenties,
28:55
so yeah, I'm i'm um. You guys should call yourself. If you
29:02
start a sky band, it should be called the Nebraska Tones. I think
29:07
they tried to do a Nebraska office. So you have to do something with
29:14
that brandy like that. That's just perfect branding. I mean, just make
29:17
something out of it, make it a slogan, make it a festival,
29:18
make it something because it's just there, like it's there for the taking.
29:23
That is true. Even a T shirt, you know, like, let's
29:26
just go with the T shirt for now. But I don't. Yeah,
29:30
I love it. Let's talk about you know, potential new music on the
29:34
horizons. You know, you guys last album which was great, by the
29:37
way, twenty twenty one, so last year. We're finishing up twenty twenty
29:42
two now as we're recording anything that we could maybe expect here in the future
29:48
maybe next year. Uh yeah. We currently have I think fifteen songs written.
29:55
We are working with Jeremy Worst he's our guitar play there and recording the
30:03
record, but we're also working with I don't know if y'all know, well,
30:07
you guys are South Dakodin's Ryan Latrue on some producing and some like songwriting
30:15
help too. So just kind of getting some outside perspective because now that Jeremy's
30:21
like full time with us, we were like, okay, like we can't
30:25
just you know, self combust in this thing. So yeah, we got
30:30
some outside perspective. We officially met him on that Norma Jean tour and ended
30:34
up clicking really well. So I'm excited to go write some songs and I
30:40
think we're most likely going to record the first part of the year, so
30:45
I'm hopeful. I don't know if he'll come out next year, but it's
30:48
exciting. I'm excited to write recording new music. Chase is putting out a
30:52
solo song in two weeks, so we haven't announced that yet. But and
30:57
what's his solo project called. It's just Chase Thompson. So Thompson, all
31:02
right, Yeah, it's just a fun little thing. But yeah, it's
31:07
very Nebraskan. So it's like, uh like Lifehouse and uh country, that's
31:14
like alternative indie country. So it's good. Yeah, love it, love
31:18
it. What if they're gonna have skits around it? Dude, I hope.
31:22
So do you know about the Lifehouse skit? Oh? But I was
31:26
going to act like I did so Oh it's yeah, just type in just
31:30
like on YouTube, go type in Lifehouse skit and it's a it's a whole
31:34
thing that Cullen and I grew up with. Yeah, is it the band
31:40
or is it like a church thing? No, it's a church thing.
31:42
And the band's not playing. It's like that, really, the band's not
31:48
in it. It's just they're playing. They're using uh, one of the
31:52
life House tracks, and there's a whole skits, a church skit involved in
31:56
it, and like every church did it. It's pretty it's oh shit,
32:01
dude, Yeah, I know what I'm talking about. The one where the
32:06
girl like bakes like she's drinking and then like gets really into like self absorbed,
32:10
you know, yeah, and like gets really into drugs and shit and
32:15
then at the end, like Jesus blocks all that shit. Yeah, dude,
32:17
that one is so funny. I didn't know that was still a Lifehouse
32:22
song. I tweeted about it once and it like was sort of doing numbers
32:28
and supposedly a guy who used to tour with the band. I don't think
32:31
he was a full time member, but supposedly like played violin or something in
32:35
the band. He he like replied and was like, wait, this is
32:37
a thing. I've never heard about this before. And I'm like, yeah,
32:42
like look this up and this has millions of views and people know about
32:45
it. It's it's a thing. And he's like, that's not at all
32:47
what that song is about. And I'm like, yeah, i'd probably,
32:51
I would imagine. So I definitely so now watching this, I don't know
32:54
if yeah, listeners are probably like, yo, like what is this?
33:00
But I can't remember what I played? Am I the money? Yeh?
33:06
I definitely re enacted this multiple times for our church. So are you serious?
33:09
Yeah, because I remember them. Yeah, like there's that purple,
33:14
the purple. Uh guy, dude, sorry, I'm I'm overly watching this,
33:20
but I definitely think I was the self sabotaging guy with the knife like
33:24
cut yourself, you know. But uh, you know, but big old
33:30
JC covered it, so that's right for good, that's true. Yeah.
33:36
Are we ready for top five? Yeah? Yo? Yeah, yeah all
33:42
right. My My top record I think of all time is Incubus Morning View.
33:47
Um. Wow, we're most listened at least that record. My cousins
33:52
got me into that band, uh because they would uh burm MP three E
34:00
and uh yeah, let me let me drum while they got stoned at their
34:05
house when I was in like sixth grade. It's pretty sick. I didn't
34:07
know they're getting stoned at that time. But speaking you guys, you guys
34:12
have some new merch that that has to kind of do with that, don't
34:15
you. I don't know, man, I don't know what you're talking about.
34:17
So we don't have any weak grinders or anything. Don't tell you know.
34:22
I don't tell my parents. Uh but yeah, that records. I
34:25
just don't tell our governor in South Dakota. That's thang for real. Uh
34:35
Uh. I also put on my list The Forecast, which they're from Piora,
34:40
Illinois, Illinois. I don't know why I said that's a weird uh.
34:45
They I saw them on six six h six. It was my first
34:51
band that was like an actual touring band, and they were signed the Victory
34:57
at the time. But yeah, that record, I feel like, is
35:00
a very good Midwest rock record. It's like a little emo, but like
35:06
mostly just like a good just good songs. Um. But yeah, I've
35:10
seen them every time they've came, even you know, five hours close.
35:15
So I love that band, The Forecast, The Forecast. I don't know
35:20
if I know of them. They're dope. Um. My top three would
35:28
be have Heart Songs, scream at the Sun o. Um, it's just
35:32
a good record. Uh, it's loud. I feel like, I don't
35:37
know, I don't have really much to stay. I was straight edge for
35:40
a long time until like three months ago, and now I'm making grinders.
35:47
Dude, don't tell my parents. Uh, but uh, yeah, that
35:52
record was sick. I feel like that band was a very pivotal band for
35:57
a lot of people. So yeah, we just we just saw fiddle Head
36:01
at Furnace Fast, and I honestly like fiddle Head more than Have Heart,
36:07
but I mean it's hard not to just absolutely love Have Heart and what they
36:10
were able to do for that scene. Yeah, I think if fiddle Head
36:14
would have came out when that record came out, I would have just like
36:19
not cared at all. But if they both came out now, I would
36:22
care only about fiddle Head. So that sounds really mean, but you know
36:27
what I mean. So that's your third one, right, Yeah, So
36:31
fourth is tap Roots Gift Mike same cousins that let me play drums. They
36:42
really like tap Root and burnt me off a CD of all their records,
36:45
and I really like that band. I actually got to see them on there.
36:51
I think it was a ten year anniversary of that record, and it
36:53
was really cool. But I don't think they're still playing anymore. But yeah,
36:58
they I don't know, they're just a cool new metal band. But
37:00
yeah, yeah, yeah, very one of the ogs there. Yeah,
37:06
they're super unique. I mean that record after Gift was like Blue Sky research.
37:12
They went with the what Billy Corgan like produced it and they just,
37:16
I don't know, they were like super experimental with it, and they like,
37:20
I don't think they ever cared if they were going to be the biggest
37:22
band. They just want to make cool ass music. So I still back
37:27
that. But yeah, my fifth record is Counting Crows Recovering the Satellites.
37:34
Really, yeah, I'm I'm I'm not really into obviously a lot of email
37:38
music, but yeah, Counting Crows is one of my favorite bands of all
37:43
time. But that record in general is just flawless. So I would not
37:47
have guessed that out of you, I'll be honest, thanks. I would
37:51
have wore the Counting Crows. I have a hat for that record, so
37:54
I could have worn that and you would have been like, oh, okay,
37:58
that makes sense. But mister Jones might be one of the most like
38:01
infectious songs, Like it's just hard not to absolutely love that song. Yeah,
38:08
our guitar player and I like to go back of if Recovering the Satellites
38:15
or is it Desert Life, like which record is better? And I don't
38:20
know. It's a long, long drawn out conversation, but yeah, I
38:27
can't imagine there's a lot of people having that conversation anymore. Dude, just
38:30
Salt Creek. Yeah, yeah, I think now They're just known as the
38:36
band that was, you know, the nineties soundtrack band like so much stress.
38:43
So I mean it's it's a time literally the sound is such a time
38:45
capsule of the nineties for sure. Yeah, but it's sick they're still Dreads
38:52
involved, Dude, I are they still even doing I don't know anything,
38:58
but let's forgive Dreads. But yeah, yeah, you know, I kind
39:04
of hear a little bit of those influences in Salt Creek. You know,
39:08
you get, you know, some of the heavier stuff like you mentioned with
39:12
some of the new metal, but then yeah, you kind of get this
39:14
like really good like songwriter type of music with like Counting Crows and like you
39:20
kind of get all of that in Salt Creek. And so I think that's
39:22
what's really cool about your sound is you're getting some of that heavier stuff and
39:27
you're really getting the really good indie songwriter stuff too at the same time.
39:30
Damn thanks man, I agree. This is plug time? Are you ready
39:37
for plugs? What do you got? So A lot of people don't know
39:42
this about me, but I own King State Coffee in Tampa Bay, Florida.
39:46
It's a Tampa Bay based or Tampa based coffee roaster, beer brewer,
39:54
beer bar, wine bar, restaurant, and third Wave coffee shop. Wow,
40:00
that's all. That's a great elevator pitch. Thank you. You know
40:04
so, I'm very curious how did you come about this? I mean you're
40:07
you're from Lick in Nebraska. Yeah, and you you decided to open a
40:13
coffee shop, brewery place in in uh in Tampa, Florida. I mean
40:16
yeah, I mean I started the band under Oath. Oh, I think
40:20
I forgot That's how I know you. That's I remember. Now, that's
40:25
like a pretty like underground band, like only a few people heard of them,
40:29
right, not as underground as Salt Creek, let's be real here,
40:32
But yeah, my parents don't know about them, that's for damn sure.
40:37
And what what did? What do you do in that band? Like something
40:39
like programming? Yeah? So I realized that, uh, this bit is
40:46
never gonna work because we thought Chris uh from under Oath owned the coffee shop,
40:54
but Tim owns the coffee shop. Yeah, and yeah, and you're
41:01
and you're Chris, I'm Chris. Oh you're Chris from under Oath. I'm
41:07
Chris from under Oath Yeah what Yeah? And I'm also the guy. I'm
41:14
also the guy in the Lifehouse Everything skit that's remastered in high quality. Um,
41:20
there should be a link in the bio if you guys want to put
41:22
that in there, maybe on your link tree. Yeah, um yeah,
41:25
it's pretty sick, are you? Are you still like auditioning for other you
41:30
know, if other churches are still doing the Lifehouse skit that like, Hey,
41:32
like, I know how to play this part. Just hire me and
41:36
I can do it. No, man, I'm making money off that royalties.
41:38
There's five point nine million views on that thing thirteen years plus. Church
41:45
has got plenty of money already, so yeah, they got to give that
41:49
to the poor. Yeah. Do you think that guy was a youth pastor?
41:51
I still cannot tell what he was doing, but one chance he was.
41:58
There is no way he wasn't. Yeah, Oh I totally agree.
42:01
You see that? You go? Yeah? Is there a soul patch involved
42:06
too? Dude? Probably? I don't know. He looks unshaved, but
42:12
that's me. You are a man of many faces and many talents. Yeah,
42:19
I could. I could come up with some other things that I did
42:21
that I did. You must love Mayo then, right, if you're if
42:23
you're actually Chris from Under Oath you have to like or if if you if
42:30
you're Nate from under Oath, you must love mayonnaise? Is that a thing?
42:37
May Oh, it's a thing. They say that, Oh, it's
42:42
a thing. You clearly did not watch the Under Oath documentary that you said
42:45
you did. Dude, it's been I was I was like fifteen when that
42:50
thing came out. No, maybe seventeen, but I was. I was
42:52
ten, and I still remember how much like he would literally eat mayo out
42:58
of the jar, just spoonfuls male naise. Damn, I need to rewatch
43:05
I guess. I'm sure it's on YouTube at this point. How do you
43:07
not remember this one tiny little like bit that they were doing in a documentary
43:13
you watched twelve fourteen fifteen litre twenty years ago. Yeah, you know,
43:17
I just remember there was some like milk gallanch challenge or something. Okay,
43:22
I was just about to I was literally just about to point this out.
43:24
So I remember, for the first time ever watching this documentary. I was
43:30
at home and my parents got me this DVD, you know, because it
43:34
was like the special edition for their only Chasing Safety, and I'm starting to
43:37
watch it. My parents are kind of like coming in and the living room
43:42
to you know, check on me and everything. And they come into the
43:45
room at the point that they start doing the Gallon challenge, and my mom
43:49
is like, what's going on? What is this? This is not Christian,
43:52
We're turning this off. And I was like trying to explain to them,
43:55
like what was going on. And anyway, I almost was like the
44:00
fact that they could sing about Jesus, that still doesn't make him a Christian
44:04
man. They have to not do the gallons challenge to prove that they were
44:07
a Christian band. That is a church thing, I think. And then
44:08
we did it at Youth two weeks later. Yeah exactly. I don't know
44:14
where, but you know it's a verse. It's definitely a yeah, yeah,
44:17
goat's milk. It's in the verse. So I know this is going
44:22
off topic, but did y'all have any really screwed up food challenges when you're
44:27
a kid. There was when I was in high school, in like late
44:30
middle school. Um, there was the mcdoubell challenge where you had to eat
44:34
ten mcdoubel's in one sitting, um, which is now kind of expensive,
44:38
but then it was like ten bucks, like you just one kid would try
44:42
every Friday. I cut recreationally with Colin. Didn't even have to get challenged
44:46
to do that. He just would do that, like, Oh I'm hungry
44:51
for real, dude, how many I want to I want to do the
44:53
calendar? I got a calculator right here. Okay, so you want to
44:57
hear a real crazy story about some like food challenge just that that I did
45:00
never actually get challenged to. I just said I was gonna do it.
45:04
Tacer Johns. You guys got Tacker Johns down in. Oh yeah, Tacer
45:07
Johns is the jam. Yeah. Uh yeah, well I mean for Midwest,
45:13
I mean, yes, yeah, because we're middle of the Yeah.
45:16
For the bit this is this part actually is not a bit, though I
45:21
was. I was on a baseball team and after our game that we won,
45:27
I challenged myself to eat two six packet of pounds, which is like
45:31
twelve tacos, and two pounds of potato alais, which are like ten thousand
45:39
milligrams of sodium each, and then I had to drink you know, the
45:43
two sixty four on sodas after that, like one one six pack in a
45:47
pound is made for what like a family of three or four typically. Yeah,
45:52
I was gonna see how many calories that was, because that might be
45:55
crazier than uh than the sodium. Yeah, well, so I ate both
46:04
of them. I did it. I did it, And on the bus
46:07
ride home, I'm feeling like dog water. And I get home and I
46:13
try to go to sleep, and I can't go to sleep because my belly's
46:15
a rumbling. And at like five in the morning, I finally like stir
46:21
out of bed and I like vomit all over the floor, and all over
46:28
the floor that my parents had just recarpeted that day. And I wake my
46:38
dad as like, Dad, I don't feel good and I just vomited all
46:42
over the floor. He's like sort of a bitch, and he gets up
46:46
and he grabs the dust pan and he comes in and he like tries to
46:50
like clean it up because I quite I quite literally could not even like pull
46:53
myself out of bed anymore. I was like so like weak from this.
46:59
And it broke the fucking dust pan. There was that much. Yeah,
47:06
that's like that's a lot of food. That's a lot of weight of food.
47:13
Bro. I gotta tell you something, though, Um I did the
47:16
math. Yeah, it's only it's I thought it was gonna be a lot
47:20
more calories. Let's be real here, Okay, it's only it's only about
47:23
thirty five hundred to four thousand tops. Okay, so which is not that's
47:29
like two days of eating in one stay, which is still really a lot
47:34
scary. But uh, the ten mcdouble is about the same, But I
47:40
think the sodium level on your end is way more screwed up. And also
47:45
like the weight of that is wow. Also, anyone who's had like potato
47:51
alays knows the grease on that stuff is like it's like deadly. Yeah,
47:55
like the grease on those potato alays will that will that will clean you right
48:00
out gut? Did you ever think about the years you're deducting from your life
48:04
when you ate that? I really if if uh you know, if you
48:08
do go to heaven? Uh, like I hope there's like a like kind
48:14
of a quota. Like there's like an accountant that's like, hey, you
48:17
remember that thing I did when I was sixteen or fourteen? Like how many
48:22
years did that pull off my life? Be real? And he's like,
48:24
yo, thirty five days? You know? So what was that moment for
48:30
you where dude, we wish you would have thought about how many days it
48:35
took off your life on this. Uh. We did a tour in June
48:39
to La and back and we had a day off in Vegas and we all
48:45
went to the buffet and we didn't eat the um before that, and then
48:50
we didn't eat after. So we were like, that's what screws up.
48:52
Yeah, we had a we had an eighteen hour drive in two days and
48:58
we were like, man, we're gonna We're gonna terrorize this place. So
49:01
we hit it and then I I don't think I've ever felt that bad because
49:06
it hurt to walk to the car. Yeah, it was. It was
49:08
very painful. Not not that painful, but it was definitely taking years off
49:15
my life, or like, you know, maybe weeks off my life,
49:17
but weeks. Holy yeah, maybe maybe a couple of days. I don't
49:21
know. I'm no scientists, but I hope you got it. Yeah.
49:28
Yeah. Basically, what I've I think anybody should learn is to you know,
49:32
eat with moderation. Yeah, you know, eat healthy. It's not
49:37
a bad idea. I know, I know, I'm a big dude,
49:39
but let's go baby, man. Like Pizza Range Buffet's that was like my
49:45
middle school in high school, like experience so good. What is the close
49:51
one yanked in for y'all? Or no Watertown then blast dude. Ye love
49:58
that. Like any city that like is over two thousand people in South Dakota
50:02
probably is going to have a pizza Ranch. And actually where I went to
50:08
colleges where Pizza Ranch is headquartered, so like I got the like premiere Pizza
50:13
Ranch when I was in college. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah,
50:15
I'm you're spoiled. I was really spoiled that cactus bread Man, that cactus.
50:21
I haven't been there in like probably six years, but you know it
50:25
hurts every time. I will, Like if I was touring in the Midwest,
50:30
I would hit it up every day, Like I mean, it's it's
50:32
like decently cheap, and again you can eat like as much, like don't
50:36
eat anything else the rest of the day. Like, just eat Pizza Ranch
50:39
every day, don't eat anything else, and you're gonna be totally fulfilled in
50:44
life. This is really weird to hear from you, Mason. I'm our
50:49
bands super bougie and we just eat like really fancy places. Uh at this
50:54
one. I mean, we're all older and have jobs and stuff. So
50:58
it's easier than like our college band where we would eat you know, CC's
51:04
buffet for every you know, for one meal and then call it. But
51:08
that will take days off. For the price of a five dollars foot long,
51:12
you can have all the food you want CC's buffet. I feel like
51:16
this is just one really bad pitch for you know everything for your coffee shop
51:22
and brewery shop in Tampa Bay, Florida. Yeah, they should definitely have
51:27
a buffet. I'll pitch that. I'm gonna they definitely have like a contact
51:31
on King State, So yeah, you're gonna have to have a meeting of
51:35
the board members once again. I'm just gonna send it through the contact and
51:39
I'm doing right now. Nathan from Salt Creek, Nathan at Salt Creek,
51:47
you should have it. He's actually doing it. This is great. I
51:53
just said Nathan from Salt Creek, and all that it says is you should
51:57
have a buffet. So, you know, at one point Chipotle had a
52:04
whole thing for touring bands. I don't know if they do that anymore,
52:07
but that would have been a fucking great deal. They don't, but we
52:10
still call them anyway because we, uh, every once in a while we'll
52:14
have a little little luck. But and you can still get you can still
52:19
get any coali. Yeah. I love that they're they're good at that.
52:23
They serve a lot of good at coal either. Yeo, Okay, did
52:25
did y'all have a I don't know why I got a Southern accent. Now,
52:31
you guys have a USA steak buffet in South Dakota, I don't think.
52:37
Oh man, it's basically our pizza ranch. We have pizza ranch now,
52:40
but uh, it was basically the same as pizza ranch, but instead
52:45
of pizza, they had steak. But it was like bad steaks. So
52:49
I don't know how much matter. It's like a bad gold Golden Corral.
52:52
Yeah, a batter is Golden Corral? A buffet? Yeah? Have you've
53:00
never been to Golden Crown Mason, Not that I know of. I thought
53:04
we used to go for track trips all the time in high school. I
53:07
don't remember that we would for for high school or for basketball trips. When
53:10
we would go to Rapid City, we would stop in the pizza ranch in
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Fort Pier, not Pier, but in Fort Pierre, like right next to
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that strip club. Yeah, hop sketch, Yeah, No, the non
53:22
fancy pier that was. That was my first South Dakota show was in Pier,
53:28
South Dakota. It was like an automotive shop. So what Jesse Kepford
53:35
from Swing Low booked us, So oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dude
53:40
in Pier, South Dakota at an automotive shop. That is the most diy
53:45
hardcore thing you could literally imagine. Yeah, but we were I was playing
53:51
a post rock band at that time, so I was what, dudas and
53:54
are huge post rock fans. It's so weird. I was just looking at
53:59
my rap. I don't have Spotify, but I have YouTube, and I
54:01
was like, hey, I'm my YouTube YouTube wrapped deal. My number one
54:07
most listened to band for like the ninth year in a row now is Maguay.
54:10
Oh wow, I'm gonna be real here. I think every post rock
54:15
band just doesn't have a friend that's good at singing, and I don't care
54:22
if anybody doesn't check out my band because of that. Explosions in the Sky
54:25
started out with one of those guys singing and then they realize, no,
54:29
we're not doing that, so they just decided to do instrumental stuff. Yeah,
54:34
they get cool pedal boards. Cool shoes, They get a guitar cab
54:37
that looks like a coffee table, and then dude races. They don't even
54:43
have to try, they just have to do the little strummy thing. He's
54:45
a little trembli picking. So I don't know that's my my hot take,
54:52
but I know a lot of people that probably listen to your podcasts are gonna
54:57
not fuck with that take. But yeah, that's fine. I think if
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every post rock band got a vocalist that was good, it'd all be a
55:06
lot better off. Oh interesting, maybe well, like the girls post rock
55:12
bands out there that are looking for a singer, I would love to join
55:15
your band. Yeah, I can't do anything else. There's your call,
55:20
uh Nate. I think at one point I actually saw you guys live.
55:23
I don't remember exactly, but there is a a record slash coffee shop in
55:30
Saint Paul called Cadence, which is one of my favorite places great record selection.
55:36
I saw. I think it was with you guys Comrades and maybe like
55:39
Household, yeah or Unturned, I can't remember. I don't remember who all,
55:45
but I definitely like I came to see Comrades because I love that band.
55:49
Good friends with those folks, and then I'm pretty sure you guys were
55:52
playing too. Yeah, we definitely played that. I also we played Sue
55:55
Falls. You didn't come out to see us. What the heck? Man?
55:59
What most serious? Uh? This was like five years ago, so
56:02
yeah, yeah, yeah, you just weren't on our radar yet, had
56:07
no idea. Yeah, and honestly, with a name like Salt Creek,
56:08
I probably would have thought you were just like another like one of those like
56:12
dowm a dozen like folk rock bands. Yeah, pretty much we are,
56:15
which is based on all that ever plays and Sue Falls. Yeah, dude,
56:20
Also we probably were. I think we played that Comrades who were at
56:23
icon Um with another like folk indie artists. So oh no, no,
56:29
no I was there. Oh it would have It would have been like five
56:32
years ago. Yeah, yeah, no, it's with that one dude.
56:36
He's really good. It was actually like right around this time. I was
56:39
at a wedding and um, I went over because like there was a wedding
56:45
right next door of the icon Lounge, and I walked over because I knew
56:49
Comrades was playing that night. I bought some Comrades merch. I brought it
56:52
back over to the wedding because I couldn't obviously leave the wedding. It's like
56:57
some of my best friends. But yeah, that's like, that's like this
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weekend five years ago. That's a trip. Rest in peace. Comrades true,
57:05
Yeah, unbelievable band. I like, I probably have more comrades merched
57:08
than probably any other band. And they're not my favorite band, but I
57:12
just have a ship ton of their stuff because I saw him so much.
57:15
Yeah, that band just toured constantly. Uh. Dee Pop also has a
57:20
lot of their merch, so uh it's doing well there. That's awesome.
57:25
Uh, dude, Nate, Nathan, you're You're Nathan not Nate right close
57:30
enough, Nathan, it's wonderful to have you. You're a boss, You're
57:35
a gem, your Nebraska's finest Nebraska. Hey, thanks for having me.
57:44
This was fun. It was fun. We'll hang out against I'm gonna hit
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you all up. We only live like five hours away. Yeah, dude,
57:50
we should like meet up in at a show in like Omaha or something
57:53
like that. But yeah, no, I think I think meeting like somewhere
57:55
in the in the middle of an Omaha would be great. I'm here for
57:59
that. Also, I think we're I mean definitely playing souper Balls this next
58:05
year. So I'll see you guys no matter what. So hell yeah,
58:09
I'll make you guys a fantastic little meal here at my my little farm.
58:14
Oh you got a farm that's sick, Yeah, it'll be. You can
58:17
you can literally eat my pigs and my chickens and my my veggians from my
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guys. That's beautiful.