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2/10/26: Ghislaine's Pardon Plea, Co-Conspirators Exposed, Epstein Prison Tapes Wiped By FBI · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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Speaker 2: the Epstein files. So yesterday Glaine Maxwell pleaded the fifth,
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Speaker 1: jump into it. The big story coming out yesterday Gallaine
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Speaker 1: Maxwell pleading the fifth before the House Oversight Committee, but
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Speaker 1: also extending a little bit of a pardon all advanch
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Speaker 1: to the Trump administration. Let's start with her pleating the fifth.
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Speaker 1: We have it on video. Let's take a listen, Miss Maxwell.
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Speaker 1: Were you a close friend and confidant of Jeffrey Apstein.
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Speaker 4: I would like to answer your question, but on the
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Speaker 4: Advisive Council, I respectfully decline to answer this question and
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Speaker 4: any related questions. My habeas petition is pending in the
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Speaker 4: Southern District of New York. I therefore invote my right
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Speaker 4: silence under the Fifth Amendment to the US Constitution.
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Speaker 1: Let the record reflect that Miss Maxwell is invoked at
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Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment against self incrimination. Miss Maxwell, please be
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Speaker 1: very clear.
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Speaker 5: Are you declining to answer the question?
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Speaker 6: Puts you solely on the ground that you believe the
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Speaker 6: answer will incriminate you.
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Speaker 4: I invoke my fifth Man right to silence.
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Speaker 1: So you have here Galeane Maxwell, testifying from prison, saying
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Speaker 1: that she invokes all of her Fifth Amendment right in
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Speaker 1: refusing to answer any questions Her attorney, however, clarified, let's
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Speaker 1: put this up here on the screen, and this really
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Speaker 1: is the big news that she can quote clear Trump's
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Speaker 1: name in Epstein probe in exchange for clemency. Quote Miss
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Speaker 1: Maxwell is prepared to speak fully and honestly if granted
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Speaker 1: clemency by President Trump, the attorney said, only she can
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Speaker 1: provide the complete account. Some may not like what they hear,
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Speaker 1: but the truth matters. For example, both President Trump and
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Speaker 1: President Clinton are innocent of any wrong doing.
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Speaker 7: And this is such obvious, such an obvious ploy to
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Speaker 7: get the Clinton machine and the Trump machine united to say,
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Speaker 7: give give.
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Speaker 1: Give her what she wants, let her go back to England.
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Speaker 1: She'll disappear, and we can just make this all go away.
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Speaker 1: To the extent that we have any hope whatsoever, it's
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Speaker 1: that at this point the political outrage, at least I hope,
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Speaker 1: would be so insane that it would create a literal
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Speaker 1: political crisis here in Washington. Although who knows the level
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Speaker 1: of shamelessness is out of control. Here is what Representative
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Speaker 1: Rocanna and Representative Comer, who's the GOP member of GOP
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Speaker 1: chairman of the House Oversight Committee, had to say about that.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
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Speaker 8: Who were the other co conspirators? Who were the other
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Speaker 8: men who raped these underage girls? Did she have any
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Speaker 8: conversations about a deal with Donald Trump? Now she's taken
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Speaker 8: a blanket Fifth Amendment on any question. And my view
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Speaker 8: is that many of my questions don't in any way
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Speaker 8: incriminate her. So we'll see what she does. But there's
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Speaker 8: seven questions that I have specifically asked, and the assumption
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Speaker 8: is she's pleading the fifth to each one of those.
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Speaker 8: And the American people will say that there's an inconsistency.
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Speaker 8: Why did she not plead the fifth when Bland asked
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Speaker 8: her questions? And now she's pleading the fifth about things
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Speaker 8: that don't implicate her but may implicate many of the
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Speaker 8: other powerful people in the Epstein class that.
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Speaker 9: Committed these christ When we met with the survivors of Epstein,
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Speaker 9: it was pretty clear, according to the survivors, and you know,
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Speaker 9: we had twenty some members in that meeting, that Maxwell
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Speaker 9: was a very bad person and she committed a lot
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Speaker 9: of crimes. And it was the intent, in my opinion,
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Speaker 9: when we left that meeting in a bipartisan manner, that
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Speaker 9: we would not grant immunity. Now what she said today,
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Speaker 9: she's asked for clemency from the president. So I personally,
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Speaker 9: for the reasons you just stated, don't think she should
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Speaker 9: be granted any type of immunity or clemencies.
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Speaker 1: So at the very least, that's what we have right
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Speaker 1: now from you know, our political leaders that're laying the
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Speaker 1: ground saying that's not going to happen, at least for now.
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Speaker 1: But you can see how Maxwell is playing a very
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Speaker 1: very you know, she's a high level game. So to
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Speaker 1: recap her legal problems, she was not. Her petition for
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Speaker 1: habeas was rejected at the US Supreme Court. Everything banked
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Speaker 1: on her saying that the non prosecution agreement that she
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Speaker 1: and Epstein were a part of from two thousand and
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Speaker 1: seven should remain in place and that she remains unindictable
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Speaker 1: and thus that the conspiracy against her is thus completely invalid.
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Speaker 1: Now note she's not saying I didn't do any of that.
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Speaker 1: She's saying, you shouldn't have been able to prosecute me
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Speaker 1: for that because my crimes were granted immunity from you
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Speaker 1: in the Sweetheart deal. This is the corruption behind the
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Speaker 1: entire Sweetheart deal. Now that that has yet been rejected,
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Speaker 1: her last and only hope is clemency from Trump. And look,
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Speaker 1: Trump is clearly afraid of her. I mean, I don't
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Speaker 1: think Trump is the only person afraid of her. I
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Speaker 1: think Clinton and a lot of these other powerful people
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Speaker 1: are afraid of her too. That's why I don't think
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Speaker 1: they're dropping Clinton's name for any accident. Obviously Trump is
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Speaker 1: like the primary actor. But she's in the minimum security prison.
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Speaker 1: She's getting sweet, you know, playing with dogs, being single celled.
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Speaker 1: You've got what cellmates or other people in the prison
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Speaker 1: who are blowing the whistle about her treatment and who
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Speaker 1: are like, uh, hey, this is out of control, and
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Speaker 1: then they're shipped out of the prison like punitive things
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Speaker 1: that are happening. She's not even she has a sex
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Speaker 1: offenderg she's not even supposed to be at a low
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Speaker 1: level federal camp. So there are some very sketchy stuff
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Speaker 1: that's going on, and she's playing she's playing the game
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Speaker 1: at the highest level.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, h with this, And let's put put
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Speaker 2: that together with the fact that yesterday we covered how
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Speaker 2: in a filing in that yet that court case where
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Speaker 2: she's saying, hey, you shouldn't have been able to prosecute me.
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Speaker 2: Put They put in a little footnote there that said, hey,
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Speaker 2: by the way, there were twenty five other co conspirators.
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Speaker 3: She made deals with the government, so let's talk about that.
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Speaker 2: So, yes, she is playing power politics now in terms
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Speaker 2: of Trump and what he's.
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Speaker 7: Going to do.
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Speaker 2: Clearly they've done everything they can for her while keeping
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Speaker 2: her in the system. They're trying to make it as
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Speaker 2: cushy as possible for her in hopes that that will
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Speaker 2: be enough at least until he's on his way out
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Speaker 2: the door, and can you know, as they'll find a act.
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Speaker 2: By the way, Glaine, go free, you know, go out
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Speaker 2: and exonerate me, and we're all moving on when the
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Speaker 2: political backlash maybe wouldn't matter as much.
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Speaker 3: You also have to put it together.
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Speaker 2: The Clinton mentioned there with the fact that Bill and
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Speaker 2: Hillary are set to testify about whatever it is that
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Speaker 2: they know. Originally, when they were subpoenaed, they were saying, Nope,
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Speaker 2: we're not going to do it.
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Speaker 3: Now they've changed course.
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Speaker 2: We talked about this on the show yesterday and they're saying, okay, fine,
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Speaker 2: yes we're going to come out and we're going to
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Speaker 2: we're going to testify.
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Speaker 3: Now, we'll see. I'm not holding my.
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Speaker 2: Breath for any profound revelations here. But you know, Tim
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Speaker 2: Dillon had a pretty interesting bit where he's basically like, look,
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Speaker 2: the only way that you're going to really find out
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Speaker 2: is if one of these people who was on the
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Speaker 2: inside self immolates and actually exposes like themselves and others
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Speaker 2: do Hill and Bill here is a final act? Want
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Speaker 2: to you know, destroy themselves but in service of also
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Speaker 2: destroying Trump. Maybe that's a possibility. Who knows, But in
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Speaker 2: any case, that's a message to Bill, not a can
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Speaker 2: I make this all go away for Trump? Listen, I'll
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Speaker 2: make it all go away for you as well as
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Speaker 2: you go into you know this questioning from bipartisan members
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Speaker 2: of Congress.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually an interesting theory. That would require the
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Speaker 1: Clintons to have any notion of public service and not No, it.
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Speaker 2: Would have to require them to care more about their
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Speaker 2: revenge on Trump.
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Speaker 3: I could send anything else, that's what it would be when.
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Speaker 1: That endangered their great political fortunes and their reputation. I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's all what their entire currency is. Really. Yeah, and
9:29
Speaker 1: that's part that's the problem with this entire thing, is
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Speaker 1: that everybody just lies about all of that. It's like
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Speaker 1: Lutnick and Trump and Clinton and I mean Bill and
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. I oh my god, Leslie Wexner, Ried Hoffman,
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, Elon's brother. Who am I missing? Bill Gates
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Speaker 1: till Peter. I mean, I could go down the list
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Speaker 1: of like the world Richard Mark Zuckerberg just showed up
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Speaker 1: in a photo with his wife at an Epstein dinner.
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Speaker 1: It's like Sarah Gay Brinn, you know, I mean, there's
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Speaker 1: so all of these guys. They're deep in the No Committee,
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Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, you know, oh my god, the Norway You've
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Speaker 1: got the Norwegian Princess or whatever. The sloping Yeah, the
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Speaker 1: Dubai Sultan, MBS. It's these are just off the top land.
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Speaker 2: And the way it functions is mutually assured destruction. That's
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Speaker 2: the principle that keeps it in place, which is why
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Speaker 2: as long as everyone is more interested in saving their
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Speaker 2: own ass than exposing the whole thing, why we we
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Speaker 2: get these glimpses. Right, we can see the outline of it,
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Speaker 2: but we can't see all of the details. We can't
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Speaker 2: see all of the specifics. This release in you know,
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Speaker 2: this latest batch has given us some of the clearest
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Speaker 2: ideas of what was going on, but you're still just
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Speaker 2: sort of seeing shadows of what this thing.
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Speaker 3: Actually.
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Speaker 1: Somebody asked me yesterday, they were like, why is nobody talking?
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, think about it, like the
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Speaker 1: prisoner's dilemma, where you know, each person, if they cooperate,
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Speaker 1: one person will get a better deal. On the other
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Speaker 1: we'll get But here's the thing that requires somebody with
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Speaker 1: the power to punish you. There's no prisoner's dilemma because
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Speaker 1: there's nobody. If the people who are at the top
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Speaker 1: and who are running the system are the people who
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Speaker 1: are the ones implicated that, who's going to punish them?
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Speaker 10: You know?
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Speaker 1: The famous like who's going to watch the watchers? Like
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Speaker 1: that's literally what's happening here. So yeah, that's why there's
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy of silence, because if you know, why would
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Speaker 1: any of them There's no like the Clintons, everybody at
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Speaker 1: this level, they are alterra supreme narcissists, like all they
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Speaker 1: care about are themselves. They don't have any notion of
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Speaker 1: public service. I mean, isn't that what really comes through
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Speaker 1: for these emails? You know, I know a lot of
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Speaker 1: smart people. These people are not that smart. They're just
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Speaker 1: monomoniacally obsessed with power and money. That's it. And it
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Speaker 1: turns out that if you sacrifice your family, life, everything
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Speaker 1: else on the altar of you know, the false god
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Speaker 1: of riches and of sex and power, Yeah, you can
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Speaker 1: achieve it if you certainly want to. But they're not
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Speaker 1: actually intelligent, you know, none of them are people they
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Speaker 1: would really want to spend that much time around let
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Speaker 1: alone let run the world. Like, that's what comes through
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Speaker 1: in this. And that's why though there's a conspiracy not
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Speaker 1: only of silence, but you know this, this notion of
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Speaker 1: somebody would have to self immolate would require some sort
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Speaker 1: of incentive. Yeah, and I just I just don't see.
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Speaker 2: Here's the other here's the other thing is according to
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Speaker 2: the documents, Epstein was exploring with his defense.
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Speaker 3: Team cooperation cooperation.
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Speaker 2: He was exploring, Hey, maybe there's some information I can
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Speaker 2: provide on some other people and maybe, you know, in
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Speaker 2: order to lessen my sentence.
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Speaker 3: And the next thing, you know, he's dead.
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Speaker 2: So whatever happened there, and there are obviously profound questions
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Speaker 2: about what actually happened there. You don't think that the
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Speaker 2: people who were also in the circle are looking at
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Speaker 2: that and seeing that as a message. John Lubernew who
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Speaker 2: was one of the co conspirators and who was a
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Speaker 2: notorious pedophile, also ended up dead in prison under mysterious
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Speaker 2: circumstances where lo and behold, Oh, the cameras just happened
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Speaker 2: to not.
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Speaker 3: Work on that day.
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Speaker 1: Oops.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, uh, now he's gone.
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Speaker 2: Now we'll never know the reality of everything that went
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Speaker 2: down here, Like, regardless of whether you buy the official
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Speaker 2: narrative or not, the people who are implicated here, the
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Speaker 2: people who are in the most position to know what
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Speaker 2: was really going on in excruciating and horrifying detail, there
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Speaker 2: is no doubt that they took that as a message
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Speaker 2: that if you want to preserve your life, not just
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Speaker 2: your lifestyle, but your life, you're going to.
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Speaker 3: Keep your mouth shut.
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Speaker 1: That's right, all right. Last thing on Trump, This is
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Speaker 1: very interesting from a police chief report from back about
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Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Let's put it up here on the screen.
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Speaker 1: Julie K. Brown breaking the story over at the Miami Herald.
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Speaker 1: So the story here is from a piece of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein files, and it is basically involving a police report
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Speaker 1: from about twenty years ago where Trump allegedly told the
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Speaker 1: Palm Beast police chief quote everyone knew about Epstein and
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Speaker 1: that Gallaine was evil. Okay, so this is a twenty
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Speaker 1: nineteen FBI interview with the Palm Beast. Former Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: Police Chief Michael Rider. Writer allegedly told or told the
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Speaker 1: FBI that Trump allegedly told him, thank goodness, you're stopping him.
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Speaker 1: Everyone has known he's been doing this, and continued that
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Speaker 1: Gallaine Maxwell was evil. He said that Trump revealed Epstein's
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Speaker 1: Max Field associate was quote, his operative, and that she
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Speaker 1: is evil and to focus on her. Trump told writer
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Speaker 1: quote he was around Epstein once when teenagers were present,
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Speaker 1: and Trump got the hell out of there. Trump also
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Speaker 1: told Writer that he threw Epstein out of his mar
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Speaker 1: Alago club. That stands in contrast to what Trump told
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Speaker 1: reporters in twenty nineteen when he said, no, I had
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Speaker 1: no idea. It is an interesting report, and I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure, you know how much to count it.
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Speaker 1: It is of course the pom Police. Actually, in my opinion,
14:45
Speaker 1: they did one of the better jomps. Those are the
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Speaker 1: people who we doubt. They were the ones in the
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Speaker 1: beginning who were like, oh my god, this is horrifying.
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Speaker 1: We don't have the resources to be able to take
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Speaker 1: this guy on, and so well intentioned they go to
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Speaker 1: the FBI. They're like, please help us. You know, you
14:57
Speaker 1: guys have the power of the United States federal government,
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Speaker 1: like put this guy away, and the original detectives. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of interviews and all stuff with them. You
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Speaker 1: can go watch, So maybe I would believe it. It
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Speaker 1: also started making me think maybe this was the genesis
15:10
Speaker 1: if you'll recall of Mike Johnson saying that Trump actually
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Speaker 1: was the one who tried to stop Epstein, because I
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Speaker 1: was like, is this this is the only known evidence
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Speaker 1: I have now currently of any sort of warning to
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Speaker 1: the police or any of that. It does make Trump
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Speaker 1: look bad, however, because he has claimed repeatedly he had
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Speaker 1: no knowledge and that his relationship was cut off at
15:33
Speaker 1: a certain point. And this takes it all the way
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Speaker 1: back twenty years ago. I mean, look on his face,
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Speaker 1: it always collapsed literally two thousand and two. Jeffrey likes
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Speaker 1: him young. He said it on the record exactly magazine,
15:44
Speaker 1: So it's not like he didn't know, but it is. Yeah,
15:46
Speaker 1: the bigger thing is like, wow, so you know, was
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Speaker 1: there a cooperat Like in what context was he interviewed? Right?
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Speaker 1: And none of that really remains clear, but it's from
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Speaker 1: a twenty nineteen interview with the Palm Beach. Palm Beach
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Speaker 1: Police chief.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely believe that Palm Beach Police Chief is telling the
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Speaker 2: true geer. He has no reason to lie about this.
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Speaker 2: And look, Trump was very close with Epstein. They were best.
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Speaker 2: They hung out in New York, they hung out in
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Speaker 2: Palm Beach. Epstein was at mar A Lago. He wasn't
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Speaker 2: actually a member, but he was given special privileges there.
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Speaker 2: They would send girls to his house, even though they
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Speaker 2: didn't typically like to do that, Like of course, I
16:22
Speaker 2: mean he he and Maxwell took Virginia Gooffrit from mar
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Speaker 2: A Lago when she was.
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Speaker 3: Sixteen years old.
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Speaker 2: Obviously Trump knew what was going on here, and so
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Speaker 2: this just has him dead to rights because he has
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Speaker 2: been adamant I had no idea, no idea what was
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Speaker 2: going on, nothing to do with it, blah blah blah.
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Speaker 3: And so it's like, Okay, well, why did you lie
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Speaker 3: about this?
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Speaker 2: You know, because in a sense, if you were honest
16:45
Speaker 2: about it, in a way, it kind of makes you
16:47
Speaker 2: look because you're like, oh my god, thank god, you're
16:49
Speaker 2: doing something about it. Of course, how long did you
16:52
Speaker 2: know something was going on, and you didn't go to
16:54
Speaker 2: the police to protect these girls yourself. It took a
16:57
Speaker 2: you know, a family and a young girl coming for
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Speaker 2: or to the police being very courageous against this extraordinarily
17:03
Speaker 2: wealthy and powerful man to get the ball rolling on
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Speaker 2: this whole investigation. So no, I mean, he's got dad
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Speaker 2: to rights here. He knew, he knew some of what
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Speaker 2: was going on, There's no doubt about it. A bunch
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Speaker 2: of these events with Epstein were held at mar A Lago.
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Speaker 2: And to your point, Zager, we've got him on the
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Speaker 2: record saying Jeffrey likes him young. Like if anyone was
17:24
Speaker 2: deluding themselves into thinking Trump had no idea, it was
17:27
Speaker 2: just so innocent. I just thought it was, you know,
17:29
Speaker 2: he just liked the you know, the nineteen year old girls.
17:32
Speaker 3: I had no idea about these young police.
17:34
Speaker 2: Please, obviously he knew some of what was happening here.
17:39
Speaker 1: Can we just stop with a nineteen year old thing.
17:40
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Like I know everybody wants to defend that.
17:43
Speaker 1: It's sorry, no, it's disgusting behavior. And as I said yesterday,
17:46
Speaker 1: you can google it. It's called the Man Act. If
17:48
Speaker 1: you import women across state lines for the express purpose
17:54
Speaker 1: of having sex, you have violated federal law. Sure, it's
17:58
Speaker 1: not the same thing as importing children across state lines,
18:01
Speaker 1: you know, to abuse them for sexual purposes. But like
18:04
Speaker 1: it's like everyone keeps pretending, is if this is not
18:06
Speaker 1: also a federal crime, Like, no, that's disgusting, degenerate behavior.
18:11
Speaker 1: If you participate in that, you should go to fucking prison.
18:14
Speaker 1: So there's just all of this, you know, Oh, actually
18:16
Speaker 1: it was a teenage women eighteen nineteen. Like again, like,
18:21
Speaker 1: am I living in a different universe? Yeah, if you
18:23
Speaker 1: put a girl on a plane for the express purpose
18:25
Speaker 1: multiple and you pay them for the express purposes trying
18:28
Speaker 1: to have sex with them, unless you're an insane libertarian,
18:31
Speaker 1: most people are like, yeah, that's fucked up and you
18:32
Speaker 1: should go to prison. Yeah, so that's just my last thing.
18:34
Speaker 1: Everyone does. Oh even if they were just eighteen ninety,
18:36
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Eighteen nine year old goals from Russia
18:38
Speaker 1: who could barely consent, who don't even speak any English,
18:41
Speaker 1: who are thrown into you know, maybe in some sketchy contract,
18:43
Speaker 1: who are told they're doing so for modeling purposes. Is
18:46
Speaker 1: this not still a heinous crime? Of course it is.
18:49
Speaker 2: There's been a major an assault on the English language
18:52
Speaker 2: attempt to also, you know, like clear and exonerate Trump.
18:56
Speaker 3: Here, I saw somebody talking about how.
18:58
Speaker 2: They always call them underage girl when we should be
19:01
Speaker 2: calling them underage women, like oh, I'm sorry, what that is?
19:06
Speaker 3: That is not a thing?
19:07
Speaker 2: Or Megan Kella being like he liked the barely legal
19:10
Speaker 2: type like fifteen, that's.
19:12
Speaker 1: Not that's not even barely legal. As far as I know.
19:15
Speaker 2: Here, I don't think there's any state in the country.
19:17
Speaker 2: I think there is such age of consent. You know,
19:20
Speaker 2: it's like sixteen years old, and a lot of times
19:22
Speaker 2: there are provisions of like the age whatever. Anyway, Yes,
19:25
Speaker 2: the some of the justifications have been completely insane. You
19:30
Speaker 2: could go back and watch our segment from last week
19:32
Speaker 2: on some of the defenders.
19:33
Speaker 1: Okay, let's move on to Thomas Massey courageously been pushing
19:40
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey Rocanam. Yesterday they were able to view some
19:44
Speaker 1: of the unredacted files and so what did they do.
19:46
Speaker 1: They immediately came out and started talking about some of
19:49
Speaker 1: those redactions, which let's all remember this the express purpose
19:54
Speaker 1: of the legislation which permits redactions says you may only
19:58
Speaker 1: redact for now national security and victims' names. Well, what happened.
20:04
Speaker 1: The DOJ has now been caught multiple times redacting the
20:07
Speaker 1: names of the rich, the famous, and the powerful for
20:10
Speaker 1: no purpose and in direct violation of this federal law.
20:13
Speaker 1: So Thomas Massey Rocana, they go to the DOJ, they
20:16
Speaker 1: are able to review some of the unredacted files. They
20:18
Speaker 1: immediately start forcing some of us unredacting in public. Here's
20:23
Speaker 1: what they had to say on the steps, and we're
20:24
Speaker 1: going to get to some of the information they released.
20:26
Speaker 5: I mean, what we're after is the demand who Jeffrey
20:33
Speaker 5: Epstein trafficked women too?
20:35
Speaker 10: We want those names published.
20:36
Speaker 1: Are these men US citizens? What fields do they work in?
20:39
Speaker 1: Are the finance?
20:40
Speaker 9: Is the political?
20:42
Speaker 5: At least one is a US citizen, at least one
20:45
Speaker 5: is a foreigner, and the other three or four have names.
20:49
Speaker 5: I'm not sure if they're foreigner US And.
20:53
Speaker 1: Which field do they work in? It is it finance, banking, political?
20:57
Speaker 5: One is pretty high up in the foreign government and.
21:01
Speaker 8: Some are One of the others is a pretty prominent individual.
21:06
Speaker 8: But I think that the point is that these six
21:09
Speaker 8: are just what we found in two hours of a
21:11
Speaker 8: review of the files, that aren't redacted. The broader issue
21:14
Speaker 8: is why so many of the files they're getting are
21:18
Speaker 8: redacted in the first place, and until that becomes unredacted,
21:23
Speaker 8: the main things that they're sending to the career attorneys
21:26
Speaker 8: to review, I don't think we're going to have full
21:29
Speaker 8: compliance with the law. Get to the question that most
21:31
Speaker 8: Americans want to know. Who were the rich and powerful
21:34
Speaker 8: people who went to this island? Did they rape underage girls?
21:37
Speaker 8: Did they know that underage girls were being paraded around?
21:41
Speaker 1: Six men? Implicated foreign government, someone high up at a
21:45
Speaker 1: foreign government. I would love to see some of that,
21:47
Speaker 1: certainly would Immediately afterwards with Thomas Massey actually started tweeting
21:53
Speaker 1: out very specific redactions which they had been made, which
21:56
Speaker 1: violated again the very law that they authored and were
21:59
Speaker 1: passed through con assigned by the President, and the DJ
22:02
Speaker 1: had to start immediately unredacting said files as part of
22:05
Speaker 1: this request. Let's put this next one up here on
22:07
Speaker 1: the screen. Thomas Massey, in response to my posts today,
22:11
Speaker 1: the DJ has now unredacted an FBI file that labels
22:14
Speaker 1: two individuals as co conspirators. They have unredacted a file
22:18
Speaker 1: that lists several men who they implicated, and they have
22:20
Speaker 1: tacitly admitted Sultan Ahmed Binsuliyam was the center of the
22:25
Speaker 1: torture video. Now, very specifically, what I think is very important,
22:29
Speaker 1: perhaps more than anyone, is the explicit naming in this
22:33
Speaker 1: case of Leslie Western. Now, this will come of no
22:36
Speaker 1: surprise to literally anybody who knows anything about the Epstein case. However,
22:42
Speaker 1: it does immediately downplay the initial claim by the FBI,
22:46
Speaker 1: by Cash Bettel, by Dan Bongino that this was a
22:49
Speaker 1: singular enterprise that only Epstein and Maxwell participated in. Wexner
22:54
Speaker 1: was explicitly listed as a potential co conspirator here in
22:58
Speaker 1: the DODA documents. It also just makes common sense. The
23:02
Speaker 1: former CEO of Victorious Secret, who is the source of
23:05
Speaker 1: Epstein's wealth and initial entree into high society, is the
23:10
Speaker 1: person who, oh and who drew Boobs in the birthday book,
23:13
Speaker 1: is a potential co conspirator in this entire scheme. Oh,
23:17
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're shocking me with this information. Very important.
23:22
Speaker 1: The second one is a sultan, the Dubai Sultan Ahmed
23:26
Speaker 1: bin Soliyam, who we have actually talked previously about here
23:30
Speaker 1: on the show. This is the guy who is the
23:33
Speaker 1: chief executive officer of the Dubai Ports Now Ryan and
23:38
Speaker 1: Mortaza saying over at drop site have written at nauseum
23:41
Speaker 1: stories about the Sultan and Epstein's relationship and the way
23:45
Speaker 1: that they were working as a financial conduit in the
23:48
Speaker 1: Middle East, and that was real power, like real money
23:50
Speaker 1: stuff that was going that seems to have been financing
23:53
Speaker 1: some of the stuff behind the scenes for the intelligence
23:55
Speaker 1: deals and other things that we've talked about previously. But
23:58
Speaker 1: just to show you also that there are our own
24:00
Speaker 1: relationship here with the alleged torture video in that infamous email,
24:04
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of creepy jokes or comments between
24:08
Speaker 1: the two. Also demonstrates that those two are linked, which
24:12
Speaker 1: is such an important part of the story. Like the
24:14
Speaker 1: sex stuff does not exist without the intelligence stuff and
24:17
Speaker 1: the financial and then same vice versus the financial and
24:20
Speaker 1: the intelligence doesn't exist without the sexual like degeneracy that's
24:24
Speaker 1: present within the email. So very important reactions force unredactions
24:29
Speaker 1: forced there by Thomas Massey Myrocana.
24:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, and what that email just for as a reminder,
24:34
Speaker 2: it said Jeffrey Epstein to now we know this, Sultan said,
24:39
Speaker 2: I loved the torture video. Wow, that's what it was. Okay,
24:42
Speaker 2: what torture video? What are we talking about exactly here?
24:46
Speaker 2: These are the sort of things that can be explored
24:48
Speaker 2: now that we know the name of this individual. And
24:50
Speaker 2: just to underscore, you know, Thomas Massey was talking about, Okay,
24:53
Speaker 2: now we know one potential co conspirator who was identified
24:58
Speaker 2: by the federal government. Loved to know was there any
25:01
Speaker 2: sort of a you know, cooperation grow was there any
25:03
Speaker 2: sort of a deal that was shocked with Les Wexner?
25:05
Speaker 2: Was that one of the people that Glene Maxwell is
25:07
Speaker 2: referring to in her filing.
25:10
Speaker 3: What was the investigation into him?
25:11
Speaker 2: Like, what sort of evidence did you have on Les
25:14
Speaker 2: Wexner and these other co conspirators that you were potential
25:17
Speaker 2: co conspirators that you were looking into. Let's go ahead
25:19
Speaker 2: and take a listen to Thomas Massey talking about this an.
25:22
Speaker 10: Example of something maybe it wasn't intentional on their part.
25:25
Speaker 10: I'd like to hear his take on the redaction of
25:28
Speaker 10: the CEO who's listed as a co conspirator in the
25:31
Speaker 10: twenty nineteen child sex trafficking case.
25:34
Speaker 11: So can I ask you, because and now I want
25:36
Speaker 11: to ask you if this is the same person Todd
25:37
Speaker 11: Blinch also said about that tonight that the document you're
25:40
Speaker 11: citing there has victim names in it, So I like
25:42
Speaker 11: to say that's why there are redactions. He said, we
25:45
Speaker 11: have just unredacted Les Wexner's name from this document, but
25:49
Speaker 11: his name already appears in the file thousands of other times.
25:52
Speaker 11: And he says the Justice Department is hiding nothing. Is
25:55
Speaker 11: that the retired CEO.
25:57
Speaker 10: That you're referencing it is he unredacted it after I
26:01
Speaker 10: found it. That's a problem, and I'm glad they've admitted
26:04
Speaker 10: they made a mistake by redacting that.
26:06
Speaker 11: So you're saying it was redacted when you went in
26:08
Speaker 11: there today and after you tweeted that, they unreducted it.
26:11
Speaker 8: Correct.
26:13
Speaker 10: Now he's got four other names he needs to unredact.
26:15
Speaker 10: Did he respond to that. There's a list of twenty
26:17
Speaker 10: people and there's four men in there that need to
26:20
Speaker 10: be unredacted. Here's another troubling thing that I found.
26:23
Speaker 11: Can you say who those four men are tonight?
26:26
Speaker 10: I don't think they're well known, and so if I did,
26:29
Speaker 10: it wouldn't matter. But I could probably say them on
26:31
Speaker 10: the floor of the House. But I'll give the DOJ
26:33
Speaker 10: a chance to do what they did in these two
26:36
Speaker 10: examples where I've discovered something and now they've responded.
26:41
Speaker 3: So a number of very significant things that he says there.
26:43
Speaker 2: He casually mentions, well, I could probably say I'm on
26:45
Speaker 2: the floor of the house, because yes, you are allowed
26:47
Speaker 2: to reveal that sort of information, and you had sort
26:50
Speaker 2: of an exclusion as a member of Congress, so you know,
26:52
Speaker 2: at any time he's held out the possibility of what
26:54
Speaker 2: he calls the nuclear option.
26:56
Speaker 3: Listen, if you all don't.
26:57
Speaker 2: Do what you're supposed to do, what you're legally oblsd
27:00
Speaker 2: to do, I will come out and I will say
27:02
Speaker 2: the names I will put on the record, who these
27:05
Speaker 2: unindicted co conspirators are, who was being looked into. And
27:09
Speaker 2: then the DOJ's defense here that, oh, well, Less Wexner's
27:12
Speaker 2: name was in the file thousands of times.
27:14
Speaker 3: Why do you care so much about this one?
27:15
Speaker 2: It's like, because this is the one that specifically identifies
27:19
Speaker 2: him as a potential co conspirator. It's one thing to
27:22
Speaker 2: have emails about this person going back and forth and
27:25
Speaker 2: whatever sort of dialogue was going on. It's another thing
27:29
Speaker 2: to specifically know the government identified this wealthy man and
27:35
Speaker 2: benefactor of Jeffrey Epstein over many, many years, as someone
27:39
Speaker 2: who deserved an investigation, as someone who may have been
27:42
Speaker 2: directly implicated in Epstein's crimes. That is a very different
27:46
Speaker 2: thing than just seeing some email traffic back and forth
27:49
Speaker 2: with less Wexner's name in it.
27:50
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right. And then finally there is some horrific
27:54
Speaker 1: new video. This is from Congressman James Jamie Raskin, who
27:59
Speaker 1: also was able to review some files, and he's revealing again,
28:03
Speaker 1: you know, for even though we talked previously about some
28:05
Speaker 1: of the barely legal and all of that defense, here'son mentioned.
28:08
Speaker 1: He says of underage girls. And in this case, there's
28:11
Speaker 1: no even argument actual girls. Let's play a six and
28:14
Speaker 1: take a listen.
28:15
Speaker 6: I mean, it's an incredibly serious thing when you read
28:18
Speaker 6: through these files and you read about fifteen year old girls,
28:22
Speaker 6: fourteen year old girls, ten year old girls. I saw
28:25
Speaker 6: mention of a nine year old girl today. I mean,
28:28
Speaker 6: this is just preposterous and scandalous. So, you know, I
28:35
Speaker 6: don't want to I don't want to get into any
28:38
Speaker 6: particular case right now, but I hope the whole country
28:43
Speaker 6: is focusing on the absolute gravity of the crisis that
28:47
Speaker 6: we're in and you think the British are taking it
28:49
Speaker 6: more seriously than we are, Oh, definitely, I mean it is.
28:52
Speaker 6: I mean it's a huge scandal.
28:54
Speaker 1: Right, So for all of the talk about you know,
28:57
Speaker 1: it's just sixteen seventeen year old like they now, look,
29:00
Speaker 1: I mean, who knows. But if there's a mention investigation
29:03
Speaker 1: and by the way, even with the mention, what exactly
29:06
Speaker 1: do they say? So that's fully kind of what we
29:08
Speaker 1: know now in terms of the new information so far
29:11
Speaker 1: that's been breaking. But I do think that the Massy
29:14
Speaker 1: one is very significant, and the most significant is this story.
29:18
Speaker 1: The DOJ, unless explicitly called out, is covering up for
29:24
Speaker 1: all of these people.
29:25
Speaker 10: Right.
29:25
Speaker 1: If you go and look at the Deputy Attorney General's feed,
29:28
Speaker 1: multiple of the claims that they say are not true. So,
29:31
Speaker 1: for example, Thomas Massey, in his original tweet about Leslie
29:35
Speaker 1: Wexner said, this is a well known retired CEO. DJ
29:38
Speaker 1: should unredact this. Todd Blanch says, the document you cite
29:41
Speaker 1: has numerous victim names. We just unredacted Leslie Wexner's name.
29:45
Speaker 1: DOJ is hiding nothing. The document from twenty nineteen discussed
29:49
Speaker 1: only ten potential co conspirators and contain known to victims' names.
29:53
Speaker 1: These are just outright lies. And then here's the difficulty
29:56
Speaker 1: for all of us. So as heroic as Massy and
29:59
Speaker 1: Conna are, these are two guys. They are trying to
30:03
Speaker 1: go in there to this skiff for these unredacted documents
30:09
Speaker 1: and trying to remember from the top of their head
30:12
Speaker 1: what is unredact, what should be redacted and not. We
30:16
Speaker 1: they can't do that. And even if they'm in their staff,
30:19
Speaker 1: there's three million file there's hundreds of lawyers at the
30:22
Speaker 1: DOJ have been working on this stuff for months. Yeah,
30:25
Speaker 1: we already violated the deadline. Like this would literally take
30:29
Speaker 1: our entire team, their entire staff, every journalist who's potentially interested,
30:34
Speaker 1: and then it would take us months just to go
30:37
Speaker 1: through and flag what should be unredacted. Then there's a
30:41
Speaker 1: process and a review. This is the extent to what
30:44
Speaker 1: they're covering up. And by the way, don't forget there's
30:46
Speaker 1: still three million more files yeah, that are out there
30:47
Speaker 1: that remained completely unreleased.
30:49
Speaker 2: And this is why you know, Roll, Conna and Thomas
30:52
Speaker 2: Masseo were pushing for a special master, right, take it
30:54
Speaker 2: out of the hands of the corrupted DJ and put
30:58
Speaker 2: it in the hands of someone who was at least,
31:00
Speaker 2: you know, supposed to be neutral and.
31:02
Speaker 3: Who can follow a process.
31:04
Speaker 2: And you know, because it's been a horror show, like
31:06
Speaker 2: you have powerful men who are being protected, and you
31:09
Speaker 2: have victims, names that have been and images who have
31:12
Speaker 2: been exposed.
31:13
Speaker 3: Like it's a mess. Jamie Raskin was.
31:15
Speaker 2: Talking about that same thing, you were, Sagary's Like, there
31:17
Speaker 2: are four computers in there. If every member of Congress
31:20
Speaker 2: went in for an hour day every day, it would
31:23
Speaker 2: take you know, it would take months, if not years
31:26
Speaker 2: to get through all of this material and be able
31:29
Speaker 2: even just to evaluate it to see whether they're actually
31:32
Speaker 2: following the law. I mean, we know that they're not,
31:34
Speaker 2: just by the nature of the fact that they are
31:37
Speaker 2: continuing to hide files and that so many of these
31:40
Speaker 2: reactions have been done improperly, over redacted, under redacted, et cetera.
31:45
Speaker 3: So you know, that's where we are. It is, honestly though,
31:49
Speaker 3: it is.
31:49
Speaker 2: A miracle that we've even gotten this much and a
31:53
Speaker 2: testament to you know, condent and Massy gets so much
31:55
Speaker 2: credit here, but also testament to just the level of
31:59
Speaker 2: pressure from the American people. All of these members of Congress,
32:02
Speaker 2: having to come home and knowing they're going to get
32:04
Speaker 2: questions about this and how utterly indefensible it is. That
32:08
Speaker 2: pressure is what really led them to cave and realized like, okay,
32:12
Speaker 2: well we got to do something because this thing is
32:14
Speaker 2: going to boil over if we don't put something out
32:17
Speaker 2: and give some pretense of transparency.
32:20
Speaker 1: Absolutely, okay, let's get to the next part. This is
32:22
Speaker 1: about files. Moving on now to some more of the
32:27
Speaker 1: revelations from the files themselves. Remember, this is the gift
32:30
Speaker 1: that just keep on giving. Let's go ahead and put
32:32
Speaker 1: this up here on the screen. Newly released Epstein documents
32:35
Speaker 1: showing that the FBI agent purposely removed a hard drive
32:39
Speaker 1: from the jail video recording system and erased all the
32:42
Speaker 1: prison footage during the time of death. If you don't
32:45
Speaker 1: believe me, let me go ahead and read it directly
32:47
Speaker 1: from the transcript. Advised an FBI agent was the one
32:51
Speaker 1: who pulled out the DVR. Also advised he knew that
32:54
Speaker 1: by replacing both hard drives the system would be wiped,
32:56
Speaker 1: and he had advised personnel at MCC of that. Continuing
33:00
Speaker 1: advised that only one hard drive of the camera system
33:02
Speaker 1: was working at the time of the incident when a
33:04
Speaker 1: DVR went bad, none of the cameras recorded. There was
33:07
Speaker 1: a system failure failure of DVR two on July twenty
33:10
Speaker 1: nine to twenty nineteen, and the motherboard failed on DVR
33:13
Speaker 1: two on August eight, twenty nineteen. The hard drive failure
33:15
Speaker 1: occurred on August ten, twenty nineteen. After the incident. Blank
33:19
Speaker 1: was asked about the cameras. There were two new hard
33:21
Speaker 1: drives to install, but installing the new hard drives would
33:23
Speaker 1: mean that all prior data would be lost. The Warden
33:25
Speaker 1: wanted video, and so Blank was exactly what happened. They
33:29
Speaker 1: went ahead and wiped it. So there you go. All right,
33:33
Speaker 1: that's a new one. So we have the memo. We
33:36
Speaker 1: now have the DVR. So there's that. Now.
33:38
Speaker 3: If the decoy body the decoy.
33:41
Speaker 1: Body, right, which I mean I asked yesterday. Oh, I
33:44
Speaker 1: did put out a public call yesterday for sulfuric acid.
33:47
Speaker 1: I did say I would. So somebody actually did contact me,
33:50
Speaker 1: and here's the response they gave me. I did check
33:52
Speaker 1: and it actually is part of their potential explanation seems
33:55
Speaker 1: to make sense, is because it said ro plant reverse
33:59
Speaker 1: osmosis is like you know, it's like a water purification system.
34:03
Speaker 1: They said that oro plant could be a reference to
34:07
Speaker 1: reverse osmos. That's a potential innocent explanation. I'm fine with
34:10
Speaker 1: innocent explanations, if you have innocent explanations for sulfuric acid
34:14
Speaker 1: and ocean tunnels and what else. The de body decoys
34:18
Speaker 1: and broken cameras and harder and early memos that are
34:22
Speaker 1: drafted about deaths. I'm on about the.
34:24
Speaker 2: Blurry orange image on our video missing minute.
34:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, all those.
34:28
Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to present full context anytime, any day
34:32
Speaker 1: that you would like. And yet and yet still to
34:36
Speaker 1: this day, d o J. Look they're they're monitoring Thomas
34:39
Speaker 1: Massey's Twitter feed with a magnifying glass. They know about
34:43
Speaker 1: this early drafted memo. Where's your response? A routine we draft,
34:49
Speaker 1: you know, PR releases about all inmates debts.
34:52
Speaker 3: I want to just know with like, we screwed up
34:54
Speaker 3: the dates, Yeah, and.
34:57
Speaker 1: In turn screwed up the day. I mean actually honestly,
35:01
Speaker 1: like genuinely believable. But they won't even offer that nothing.
35:05
Speaker 1: So this is the latest one. Okay, got it, Let's
35:08
Speaker 1: continue B two, shall we? This is a very interesting one.
35:11
Speaker 1: Epstein installed secret cameras with the help of quote handy
35:16
Speaker 1: Russians love the British press and their spelling of pedophile.
35:19
Speaker 1: Pedophile credit card statements obtained by the Telegraph corroborate purchases
35:23
Speaker 1: of Surveillan's technology. Jeffrey Epstein ordered staff to install hidden
35:28
Speaker 1: cameras in his home after being told quote the Russians
35:32
Speaker 1: may come in handy, and they analyzed some of his
35:36
Speaker 1: credit card statements specifically to basically back up this allegation,
35:42
Speaker 1: both with the emails and the credit card what they.
35:44
Speaker 2: Show emails in there too, where he talks about, Oh,
35:47
Speaker 2: they're really tiny and I'm going to put them in
35:48
Speaker 2: some Kleenex boxes listen to.
35:50
Speaker 1: Epstein asked his pilot to buy three motion detecting hidden
35:55
Speaker 1: cameras that record. That's a direct quote, okay, direct quote,
36:00
Speaker 1: three motion detective hidden cameras that record. He also worked
36:05
Speaker 1: as a technician in general handyman across Epstein's properties. In
36:08
Speaker 1: an email on February five, twenty fourteen, he said he
36:11
Speaker 1: had bought the cameras from a spy shop in Fort Lauderdale, Florida,
36:16
Speaker 1: and was quote figuring out how they work as they speak.
36:20
Speaker 1: On the same day as the hidden camera purchase. Epstein
36:22
Speaker 1: received an email from someone else whose name was redacted.
36:25
Speaker 1: Remember what we spoke about. If you want to put
36:27
Speaker 1: cameras in the house, it will have to be very
36:30
Speaker 1: discreetly done. The Russians may come in handy, okay, So
36:36
Speaker 1: let's just start with that. So one of the core
36:38
Speaker 1: claims of Epstein deniers is he never taped anyone and
36:41
Speaker 1: never blackmailed anyone. There you go, one of the core
36:44
Speaker 1: claims of Glene Maxwell. Remember everybody's forgotten this, but we've
36:47
Speaker 1: already proven it incorrect. Ah, I built those houses from scratch.
36:51
Speaker 1: There's no cameras anyway. Oh, except except all the photos.
36:56
Speaker 1: It's actually not very good. I have a cold right now,
36:58
Speaker 1: so I can't do the true posh British accent. But
37:01
Speaker 1: you've got hidden cameras in the bedrooms. You got hidden
37:03
Speaker 1: cameras everywhere else. She's a liar. She literally perjured herself
37:07
Speaker 1: in that interview. It doesn't matter again, everybody just moves on.
37:10
Speaker 1: But you've got mult you know, hidden cameras. Any of
37:12
Speaker 1: the FBI in that She'll remember the twenty nineteen raid
37:16
Speaker 1: of the Epstein property. They found all those DVD dis
37:19
Speaker 1: CDs and all that stuff which was all labeled with
37:22
Speaker 1: some of the people nobody ever heard about that. No,
37:24
Speaker 1: no files on that one. Huh interesting, Maybe it'll be redacted.
37:27
Speaker 1: You could maybe argue in it, what's the innocent explanation
37:30
Speaker 1: that he'd like to tape himself, you know, having sex
37:33
Speaker 1: and others?
37:34
Speaker 6: Yeah?
37:34
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean if that's not all that innocent though,
37:37
Speaker 1: if you're going to see, oh, I don't know, a
37:39
Speaker 1: memorialized memo to yourself about STDs with Bill and Melinda Gates,
37:44
Speaker 1: that seems pretty sketchy, don't you think? And so you
37:47
Speaker 1: put this all together, and I mean, I don't know.
37:49
Speaker 1: I just continue to think some of the most maximalist
37:52
Speaker 1: conspiracy claims that have been made around this are basically
37:56
Speaker 1: all just correct. And that's what I continue you know,
37:58
Speaker 1: with the hidden cameras, the FBI's handling of the entire thing,
38:02
Speaker 1: you would have to believe in competence, like to the
38:05
Speaker 1: tenth power to come to the you know, I have reasonable,
38:10
Speaker 1: the reasonable explanation that he just killed himself this entire time.
38:14
Speaker 1: I just don't buy it.
38:15
Speaker 2: We've got another billionaire two who is implicated here and
38:19
Speaker 2: you know, caught dead to rights lying about the extent
38:22
Speaker 2: of his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. This is Andrew Farcas,
38:25
Speaker 2: who was not a figure out was particularly familiar with,
38:27
Speaker 2: but he is, you know, I think part of this family.
38:30
Speaker 2: Very wealthy. He was the campaign chairman for Andrew Cuomo
38:33
Speaker 2: a number of times, so very you know, high level
38:36
Speaker 2: in New York society. You could put this up on
38:38
Speaker 2: the screen from the New York Times. They say that
38:42
Speaker 2: the billionaire exchanged nearly two thousand emails with the sex
38:45
Speaker 2: offender Jeffrey Ebste you know, for more than a decade,
38:47
Speaker 2: revealing deeply personal thoughts about life, loneliness, and growing old.
38:51
Speaker 2: Kept their relationship from his investors, apparently confident all the
38:53
Speaker 2: links between Epstein himself, including the business they were partners
38:56
Speaker 2: in and the trips he had made to visit mister
38:58
Speaker 2: Epstein and jail, would never be disclosed. But the release
39:00
Speaker 2: of three million additional pages of the Epstein files on
39:03
Speaker 2: January thirty has made it clear that the billionaire in
39:05
Speaker 2: the New York real estate mogul Andrew Farcas, had a
39:07
Speaker 2: profound friendship with mister Epstein, who he called one of
39:11
Speaker 2: the blessings in his life and one of the bravest.
39:14
Speaker 3: Men I've ever known.
39:16
Speaker 2: The relationship played out in the trading of deep confidences,
39:19
Speaker 2: swapped introductions to powerful people and visits to mister Epstein's island.
39:23
Speaker 2: The documents show and their business partnership was a mutually
39:27
Speaker 2: beneficial real estate deal that helped mister Epstein save millions
39:31
Speaker 2: of dollars in taxes. So not only were they close
39:34
Speaker 2: friends exchanging thousands of emails visits to the island, they
39:38
Speaker 2: were also business partners out there.
39:41
Speaker 1: This, by the way, the tax thing, I still remain
39:43
Speaker 1: think is bullshit, all right, because if you are a billionaire,
39:47
Speaker 1: you have access to the wealth houses of Goldman, Sachs,
39:52
Speaker 1: Deutsche and Morgan. Stand I mean, you are talking about
39:56
Speaker 1: the best of the best of the best tax lawyers
39:59
Speaker 1: in the world. Why do you need to hire a
40:03
Speaker 1: basically illiterate, imbecile who can barely spell, and who from
40:08
Speaker 1: all of his millions of emails, I have not found
40:11
Speaker 1: one actual expert piece of tax advice beyond taking an
40:15
Speaker 1: article written by an accountant and sending into his accountant
40:18
Speaker 1: saying maybe we should try this. It's not tax advice.
40:21
Speaker 1: I can absolutely guarantee you. I can only speculate again,
40:24
Speaker 1: This is my own speculation based upon my review. I
40:28
Speaker 1: think he was an expert at money laundering, and in
40:30
Speaker 1: particular I'm talking about real money laundering on behalf of
40:33
Speaker 1: the intelligence community, the CIA, and yes, also of the
40:36
Speaker 1: ultra wealthy. Once you become very good at moving money
40:38
Speaker 1: around to reduce your tax liability, that's not tax advice.
40:41
Speaker 1: It's called fraud, all right. So like that's what I
40:44
Speaker 1: think that he was.
40:44
Speaker 2: Overall, had a very very high level criminal mind.
40:49
Speaker 1: Yes, insider trading. I mean this is and again teevens
40:53
Speaker 1: to call it criminal is funny because it's not really
40:54
Speaker 1: a crime. If you get away with it, well.
40:56
Speaker 2: It's every elite in the entire world sanctions it and
41:00
Speaker 2: is participating in the crime. Then guess what, I guess
41:03
Speaker 2: it doesn't really count. And I mean not just through
41:06
Speaker 2: the insider trading and you know, parent money laundering, these
41:09
Speaker 2: sorts of things, but the whole way. He would look
41:11
Speaker 2: at the world, see a country failing or going to
41:15
Speaker 2: war and think like, oh, this is my opportunity to profit,
41:19
Speaker 2: realizing you know, talking to talking to wealthy, powerful people
41:23
Speaker 2: and saying, look this chaos, this collapse, this is good
41:26
Speaker 2: for us. This is how we consolidate even more wealth,
41:29
Speaker 2: even more power. This game is easy, Like that's the
41:32
Speaker 2: type of thinking that, yes, he was very good at
41:35
Speaker 2: that type of thinking. Any sort of intricate tax planning,
41:38
Speaker 2: financial advice. No, that's not what was fundamentally going on here.
41:42
Speaker 1: Exactly right. So look again, I'm not alleging in any
41:45
Speaker 1: way that mister Farcas was engaging in that type of behavior.
41:49
Speaker 1: This is purely an opinion on mister Epstein himself. So
41:53
Speaker 1: let's continue, shall we, whenever it comes to some of
41:56
Speaker 1: the new releases. By the way, again, my great love
42:00
Speaker 1: respect for the UK. God'd I love these people. This
42:04
Speaker 1: is a full blown crisis. It may take down the monarchy,
42:07
Speaker 1: and the monarchy must survive, and that's why the King
42:10
Speaker 1: himself very willing to strip his own brother of titles,
42:14
Speaker 1: completely throwing him under the bus. Let's go to the
42:16
Speaker 1: next one and put this up here on the screen,
42:18
Speaker 1: King Charles releasing a new statement profound concern and complete
42:22
Speaker 1: cooperation with the police authorities over quote mister mount Batten
42:27
Speaker 1: Windsor's conduct. That's how they refer to his very own brother.
42:31
Speaker 1: While the specific claims are in question for mister mount
42:33
Speaker 1: Batton Windsor to address. If we are approached by the
42:36
Speaker 1: Thames Valley Police, we stand ready to support them as
42:40
Speaker 1: you would expect. The Valley Police are confirmed it is
42:43
Speaker 1: assessing now whether there are grounds to investigate a complaint
42:46
Speaker 1: by a group which reported that Mount Batten Windsor is
42:49
Speaker 1: suspected misconduct in public office and a breach of official secrets.
42:54
Speaker 1: So I did talk a little bit about this yesterday,
42:56
Speaker 1: but the details are actually really worth going into because
42:59
Speaker 1: it connects back to the tax advice stuff I just
43:01
Speaker 1: talked tax advice stuff I just talked about, and how
43:04
Speaker 1: he really made his money. He's not a master trader,
43:06
Speaker 1: insider insider trading. That's it. But by the way, that's
43:09
Speaker 1: incredibly lucrative if you're friends with the wealthiest and most
43:12
Speaker 1: powerful people in the world. So let's go to the
43:13
Speaker 1: next one. Just to give you an example. The current
43:16
Speaker 1: investigation in Britain is claims that the former Prince Andrew
43:19
Speaker 1: shared sensitive reports with Epstein. So this is from a
43:23
Speaker 1: November two thousand and tel email exchange that appeared to
43:26
Speaker 1: show the Royal sharing quote visit reports after a Southeast
43:30
Speaker 1: Asia trip. All right, so this focus is on some
43:34
Speaker 1: emails that were provided, you know. In some of the
43:37
Speaker 1: some of the release, the email chain quote appears to
43:39
Speaker 1: show the former Prince forwarding Epstein visit reports from Vietnam, Singapore,
43:44
Speaker 1: Hong Kong, and shen Jen, and one email who was
43:47
Speaker 1: signed as a special advisor, appeared to contain an attached
43:50
Speaker 1: document file and was forwarded to Epstein within five minutes
43:54
Speaker 1: of receipt. Now, all of these documents appear to basically
43:58
Speaker 1: be like summaries either of the Prince this visit. But
44:01
Speaker 1: the reason why it's important is that he was acting
44:03
Speaker 1: as the Trade Advisor of the UK at the time,
44:07
Speaker 1: So in multiple of these emails, they tell Epstein that
44:10
Speaker 1: he was planning trips to various different countries, what he
44:13
Speaker 1: was doing and potentially what he saw. This is information,
44:16
Speaker 1: right for a prince he gets to probably meet with
44:18
Speaker 1: some of the you know, very high level officials, other
44:21
Speaker 1: heads of state, you know, and gets to meet with
44:24
Speaker 1: local executives and then forward some of that information along.
44:28
Speaker 1: This would be a breach obviously acting in his official duties.
44:32
Speaker 1: Not nearly as bad as oh, I don't know, Lord
44:35
Speaker 1: Mandelsson being like, hey, we're going to bail out the government,
44:37
Speaker 1: just so you know, just so you can go ahead
44:39
Speaker 1: and trade on that information and tip off Jamie Diamond
44:41
Speaker 1: so that he can get involved in this entire thing.
44:43
Speaker 1: But it's still scandalous, and it just shows this is
44:46
Speaker 1: information is currency. Information at the highest levels. It is
44:50
Speaker 1: you know, enables them to manipulate and work the world
44:53
Speaker 1: in whatever way that they possibly want. And you could
44:55
Speaker 1: this is again the smallest, tiniest glimpse. I still think
44:58
Speaker 1: it's just like the eye of the in terms of
45:01
Speaker 1: what really is out there.
45:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right.
45:03
Speaker 2: And I mean, it's just so wild to me that
45:05
Speaker 2: the first instinct of like Mandelssohn when they're deliberating about
45:09
Speaker 2: how to respond to the financial crisis is like, I
45:12
Speaker 2: got some confidential info.
45:14
Speaker 3: Let me send it to Jeffrey Epstein.
45:15
Speaker 2: That was like the first instinct there, allegedly, and you know,
45:19
Speaker 2: being investigated currently, you also found soccer some more information
45:23
Speaker 2: about potential epstein Cia ties of his former bodyguard.
45:27
Speaker 1: That's right, I'll tell you this. I was not aware.
45:30
Speaker 1: I'm pretty deep, and I really I'm ashamed to say
45:33
Speaker 1: I was not aware of this. Lore. Let's go and
45:35
Speaker 1: put this up here on the screen. Credit to Tarru
45:37
Speaker 1: Palmieri we've talked to her before. She has her own substack.
45:40
Speaker 1: Can go and subscribe to it if you're interested. She
45:43
Speaker 1: also is very similar background. You know, she was part
45:45
Speaker 1: of the mainstream media. She went independent and she actually
45:48
Speaker 1: did a pretty deep dive in the Epstein case years
45:50
Speaker 1: ago when it was not all that popular. So I
45:52
Speaker 1: really trust her legit reporter for sure, exactly. That's what
45:55
Speaker 1: anybody who came to this before it was popular. Those
45:57
Speaker 1: are the people I respect. These are like the Julie
45:59
Speaker 1: cape Tea Palmieri's and others. So here's what she said.
46:03
Speaker 1: She said quote when a rare glimpse inside of Epstein's
46:07
Speaker 1: network of protection from a chilling warning to a secret
46:09
Speaker 1: trip to Langley, and why the government kept victims in
46:13
Speaker 1: the dark. And so this was apparently traces back to
46:17
Speaker 1: an interview that she did with Brad Edwards. He was
46:19
Speaker 1: a lawyer for Epstein's victims. It is a conversation that
46:22
Speaker 1: Edwards had with Epstein's bodyguard of five years, Igor Zenoviev,
46:28
Speaker 1: who warned him to back off quote because of Epstein's
46:31
Speaker 1: shadowy connections to the US government. Zenoviev said, you don't
46:35
Speaker 1: know who you're messing with. You need to be really careful.
46:38
Speaker 1: You are on Jeffrey's radar, and somebody that Jeffrey pays
46:41
Speaker 1: a lot of attention to, which is not good. You
46:44
Speaker 1: don't want to be on his radar. End quote. I said,
46:46
Speaker 1: give me some examples, who am I messing with? Edwards recalled,
46:50
Speaker 1: and that's when he looked across the table and whispered
46:52
Speaker 1: three letters C, I, A. And he talks actually about
46:56
Speaker 1: how while Epstein was serving his two thousand and eighth sentence,
47:00
Speaker 1: how he actually was sent there on multiple information trips,
47:06
Speaker 1: like to pick up information from Langley. He didn't seem
47:09
Speaker 1: to fully explain some of this what was going on.
47:12
Speaker 1: And again this is kind of hearsay. It's Brad, you know,
47:15
Speaker 1: the lawyer for the victims, who's talking away half of
47:17
Speaker 1: a conversation he had with Zenoviev. But I mean, nonetheless,
47:20
Speaker 1: that is very extraordinary. I do believe that Tara did
47:23
Speaker 1: either foya or call the CIA press office. I quote,
47:27
Speaker 1: have not received any confirmation or denial of these mysterious
47:30
Speaker 1: visits in two thousand and eight. But nonetheless, it does
47:33
Speaker 1: back up like you have a bodyguard basically warning off
47:36
Speaker 1: a lawyer. Here's the thing, whether it's true or not,
47:38
Speaker 1: there was enough of there at least for him to
47:41
Speaker 1: be credibly trying to make that threat of like, hey,
47:43
Speaker 1: you're messing with some very powerful people when you're getting
47:46
Speaker 1: involved here. And then all of these talks about trips
47:49
Speaker 1: to Langley, Virginia back in two thousand and eight. So
47:51
Speaker 1: again I was not aware of this particular part of
47:55
Speaker 1: Epstein lore. And just add you know, another feather in
47:58
Speaker 1: the cap. Yeah for the case.
48:00
Speaker 2: Well, we also have more pieces that sort of fill
48:02
Speaker 2: out the way that he schmoozed politicians to get whatever
48:07
Speaker 2: he needed from them in the Virgin Islands in particular.
48:09
Speaker 2: There needs to be more explanation exploration with regard to
48:12
Speaker 2: New Mexico as well, because I do think the ranch
48:14
Speaker 2: is and undercovered part of the story. Let's put this
48:17
Speaker 2: up on the screen. This is backed up by some
48:20
Speaker 2: of the emails. So this is from fifty shades away.
48:22
Speaker 2: By the way, shout out to him. He's been doing
48:24
Speaker 2: a good job going through files and we've used a
48:26
Speaker 2: bunch of the stuff that he's pulled here. Epstein was
48:28
Speaker 2: paying tuition for the children of the Governor of the
48:31
Speaker 2: US Virgin Islands, the former first Lady of the US
48:33
Speaker 2: Virgin Islands and Epstein multiple tuition in voices.
48:36
Speaker 3: I mean goes on to say, are these bribes?
48:38
Speaker 2: Why they turned a blind eye to his many crimes
48:40
Speaker 2: and gave him huge tax breaks?
48:41
Speaker 3: And you can see the email here.
48:43
Speaker 2: And by the way, Seaton Hall confirmed that these tuition
48:47
Speaker 2: payments were in fact made for the children of the
48:51
Speaker 2: then governor of the US Virgin Islands. So you know,
48:55
Speaker 2: in addition to campaign contributions that wasn't enough, he's giving
48:58
Speaker 2: personal financial park site.
49:00
Speaker 3: I don't worry your.
49:00
Speaker 2: Kid's tuition, college tuition at this expensive university. I got
49:04
Speaker 2: you covered, not a problem. And then you know he's
49:07
Speaker 2: left alone to do whatever he wants, and you know,
49:09
Speaker 2: have all sorts of benefits there in the Virgin Islands,
49:13
Speaker 2: and you know they just look the other way because
49:15
Speaker 2: they're in on the benefits from him.
49:17
Speaker 1: I think that Virgin You know, you're very right about
49:20
Speaker 1: New Mexico. Because Bill Richardson is dead. We don't talk
49:22
Speaker 1: about it enough. He was deeply linked with Epstein, like
49:25
Speaker 1: deep deep and Richardson was also part of the Clinton
49:28
Speaker 1: cup all. Don't forget that. You know, he was tight
49:31
Speaker 1: in the Clinton machine. Him and Epstein multiple visits and
49:34
Speaker 1: all that, and you're talking about the New Mexico ranch
49:36
Speaker 1: any place he seemed to own property he or spent
49:40
Speaker 1: a lot of time and was committing some of his crimes.
49:42
Speaker 1: He was in with the those local elites who and
49:46
Speaker 1: look it kind of makes sense. New Mexico no offense.
49:48
Speaker 1: But you know, not exactly an economic powerhouse. So when
49:51
Speaker 1: you have a very rich person who is there, I
49:53
Speaker 1: can pull a lot of strings and has a lot
49:55
Speaker 1: of influence. Yes, the governor is going to get in
49:57
Speaker 1: with I mean the Virgin Islands the same thing. Sure
49:59
Speaker 1: they have a lot of tourism, but you know this
50:00
Speaker 1: ultra wealthy man, he owns part of it. He's very wealthy.
50:04
Speaker 1: He's got all these political connections. He's drafting campaign ads
50:07
Speaker 1: for Bill Clinton. He's making sure that all of these
50:10
Speaker 1: wealthy people are coming too the island. Yeah, he gets
50:12
Speaker 1: a little bit involved here and finances a few things
50:15
Speaker 1: at the campaign level. It's probably not an extraordinarily expensive race.
50:19
Speaker 1: And then what do they do if they protect him,
50:21
Speaker 1: which is exactly what happened after he died and you
50:23
Speaker 1: had the initial lawsuit which was dismissed by the very
50:26
Speaker 1: governor who Epstein was funding. From the very beginning, so
50:30
Speaker 1: you can see exactly like, this is how you build
50:32
Speaker 1: and buy political favors. He's smaller jurisdiction where there's not
50:36
Speaker 1: as many people and they spend a decent amount of money.
50:38
Speaker 1: You build up some social cachet, and boom, this is
50:41
Speaker 1: how it all gets done. So very last thing we
50:43
Speaker 1: want to put up here B nine again, not to
50:47
Speaker 1: forget some of the creep behavior here from redacted to Epstein.
50:51
Speaker 1: I'll find a girl for you this time, I promise.
50:53
Speaker 1: I'm so bitter now I'll do anything. Dot dot dot
50:56
Speaker 1: Europe would be better to find little girl. Okay, all right,
51:01
Speaker 1: let's always remember what we're dealing with.
51:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm glad, so glad our government is protect
51:05
Speaker 2: protecting whoever it was that.
51:06
Speaker 1: That's right exactly again, in violation of the law. That's
51:08
Speaker 1: a victim. You're gonna tell me that's a victim right
51:11
Speaker 1: or there? And if there's national security information, yeah, I
51:13
Speaker 1: think we should probably know if that's a foreign leader
51:16
Speaker 1: or somebody who is like that. Great