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Episode 247: The Quest (SG-1 10.10 & 10.11) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and forty seven. We're talking Starget SG one.
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Yes that's right, we're back in the Milky Way galaxy. Yes that's
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right, we're all here again, Mitch, Maddie, Brennan, what's doing
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boys? You know, we just kind of believe you whenever you drop those
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numbers, and I don't think anyone's ever fact checked those. Just go to
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what episode we're at. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just take it
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for grant. I'm like, yeah, okay, that must be that must
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be the number. Yeah. Well it's not like over on Geek or I've
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confused you and we've talked about some Star Wars with the bad Batch, which
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is currently up to season three, and I'm like, but it's the second
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season of the Star Wars show, which I'm like, it's season two episode
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one. We're talking season three episodes one, two, and three of the
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Bat and you were just like, okay, I've switched off season two episode
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two. Was talking about season three episode four. Yeah it was. It
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was very weird. Yeah, Brendan, you're going to need to come on
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and add some add some color. I remember when when you made you your
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debut and on Geek with across the gall Well no, no, no,
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it was still Star Wars territory because we were like we were, you know,
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we were talking quite quite in school and quite proper in the world of
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Star Wars, and Brendan just come and go, you know what, you
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just go dark side otherwise, wife bother and it's like, yeah, here
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we go, all right, Darth's frends here we were taking things too light
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and you were like, yeah, I used to play n It's the old
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Republic, and why would you pick a light sider? Why would you waste
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your time? Difficult? So much more difficult. I mean, did just
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go Maddie's least favorites to the credits comics book character certainly live actually otherwise whatever
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the Punisher. That video game was great because you would intimidate people by like
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putting them out of window sill and like smashing with the wood. But occasionally
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wood would break and then it would just be like broken glass and they'd be
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like, Okay, I'm sorry, sorry, this is where the information blah
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blah blah. Kill them, and you would earn more points by not killing
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them because they had given you the information. But if you're sitting there like
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capitate this bloke. I've never understood that you would like they've got an honor
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an honor graph in Red Dead Redemption, it's like, yeah, right,
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you're an evil West dude shooting people from a horse and dragging women into the
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creek. Like it's not like, yeah, a bad guy. It was
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of the times. It was like you could drag a woman into the creek
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and it's like, oh, well, points points for being a man.
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But the Bible it's all fine, yeah, well yeah, if I had
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a smack woman in the mouth for wanting to vote, it would have been
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like, great work, President, you got to be sheriff. At least
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it was a communist goddamn coming sons a bit of understood games where you you're
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meant to be kind of like a hard but a bad and then you yeah,
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it doesn't make sense. It's like they want you to make the right
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choices as the player, not the character as the player. So that's not
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for me. I bought this game because it's R rated on the Awesomest Bit.
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Yeah, this game almost didn't make it into the country. Now that
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it's I wanted to earn that right, Thank you very much. That was
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a good game. That was a good game. I played Lego Star Wars
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on p S two No on my switch. Oh yeah, but that wasn't
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out then. I only bought it last week. My kids a got I
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bought the download. So I run around thee I run around the tan to
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four. You know. Yeah, I'm not judging for that at all.
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Tell me more in the spandex awesome? Can you video next time? Different
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it does? Is it an X time voice situation or Lego they don't have
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voices? Oh? You just there's not Oh really, that's a change.
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Maybe there's a cut I haven't got as far enough as as there's a cut
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scene in so that what happens. I'm not saying I find a cartoon character
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like attractive, but I'm just wondering if I did how attractive with that attractive
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character? Look if they were Lego form. No. Have you seen the
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cat Woman in the night? Oh dude, yeah, I'm like, this
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is a cartoon, but it's like lit up real nice? Is that the
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one where they did the funny switch and they they switched the skins. So
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there's like a scene where like Batman and Catwoman are like floating outside the prism
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of it. But they've switched it so like Batman is doing all the cat
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womanisms and stuff like that, doing the dance it in the on the PlayStation
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game, but I think it'll be moders doing that, right. Oh yeah,
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I didn't think it was actual game, and it was modest. But
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you can get the skins obviously, because you can be different. Batman's from
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different eras, same as what's the redheaded dude in those Star Wars movies Star
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Wars games, the same Calcesters casters him running around in a pair of in
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just what just in tidy whitey a right with a mullet probably too, like
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can you change because you can change the mullet anyway. No, I think
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he's were in a harness. I think that's about it. I was looking
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at the hair, we would you. I just thought it was red.
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Yeah, it's all that matters, but no hair from about about years down.
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Glorious. Here we are the bloody double part of guys. Here we
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are with the bloody quick one. Yes I do. Well, you know
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what you you keep your energy one that we love DVDs? Here? What
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you know? What is it called media? I mean I haven't looked at
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the exact date. This episode's going up, but I mean I had to
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as part of my radio job go out to the the last remaining video store
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in the Greater Brisbane area. It's closing, you know what. It is
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my local mate, the one that I I've been going to, I started
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going to twenty five plus years ago. Vieo last, not even Video Easy
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that has come and gone in Berkeley, that came out for this one and
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it left earlier. It was I don't know what, like a mum and
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pop store kind of I don't know what it was first, and then it
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was called Movies for You, and at last that was it for a while
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last and now it's called Leading Edge Video and it still has as a sign
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at the front that is like so molded over and disgusting and the lights probably
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don't work well and it's like take a movie, start home tonight, Leading
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Edge Video. There is still a slot in the wall that is available for
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VHS's you know what, because they still sell and rent out VHS's. I
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bought one last week for fifty cents just for the subjects sake, thank you.
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It would have been the same James Bond nineteen eighty nine's Licensed to Kill
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that I rented back in ninety seven and ninety eight, very Pansy was turning,
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Hellosa here it is. Did you rewind it? Of course I did,
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of course I did. Never Never did any star get on VHS.
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Would have been straight to the old DVD's. Maybe, like I'm having here,
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I got to this stage and bought it. Did they ever do Stargate
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on VHS? Toy in the UK or something? Not the box sets obviously,
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but you know how they come out with the series like three episodes on
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one VHS, even if it's not seasonally. Yeah. Yeah, that's like
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almost that spotlight episodes type thing, like hey, this will get you into
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the show. Yeah he's one, yeah, season two, there's two from
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season three. Like maybe the UK might have done the full series because Buffy
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did that. I've spoken many times about the fact that I was collecting Buffy
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on VHS, collected seasons one through six. Expensive finally got their season seven,
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which premiered in two thousand and two. I want to say, never
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released on VHS, only on DVD, so I to go back and then
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recollect the entire thing on DVD. There's no way I was going to have
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six seasons of VHS and one season of DVD. You never know those vhs
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might be worse something they were when I sold them. If it wasn't Buffy,
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well you know Buffy five years ago was much more popular than Buffy now.
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Yeah, well yeah, true, yeah, just needs to be more
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about Sarah Michelle right, she doesn't have anything wrong. Actually, just I
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know it's in that movie. Isn't she in the movie? And you did
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last summer. You know what you did, Ryan Philippe. Cruel intentions,
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cruel intentions, y Phlipin. I know what you did last I think so.
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Yeah, Sarah Michelle Geller, wasn't she was? She was in scream
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she wasn't screamed, mixed up, it's going on. We don't have a
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sorry you're saying that. I say that again. We don't have time to
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im dB. Sarah Michelle Geller's called. She wasn't it, thank you very
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much? Was there that would have they would have been a couple because Jennifer
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Love Hewitt was shacked up with Freddie Prince Jr. No, Sarah Michelle Geller
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was shacked up with Frederin Junior. Because they're still married to this day real
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life, they are, Yes, let's move the main couple of I know
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what you did last. They weren't married. They were teenagers in high school.
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Yes, I know. Why are we talking about it? There there
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were two couples. Let's go, let's those levels. I want some carabanus.
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You know what, I could prove it because you know what, the
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couple made it to the sequel. The other couple didn't. You know who
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made it the sequel? Jennifer hewittt Prince Junior for me? Yes, sorry,
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nineteen ninety seven. All right, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, all
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right. Part one, SG one finds the planet where they believe the Sangreal
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is located. Forced to forge a temporary alliance with Adria in Bracket's, Marina
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back rounds if they need to tell bar Cliff Simon, they undertake a quest
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ding to find it. Part two, though, discovering the frozen body of
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Merlin in Brackets Matthew Walker, SG one works to help him build the sangraal
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before Andrea Marina bakeran and all right, army can track them down. Hang
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on, sorry, not clearly, Marina backrons this clearly clearly I have not
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read off the back of these Maybe this season, how very dore. I've
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read off yours a lot. I was about to say for next week's or
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next SG one, last SG one Mitchell and Brackets, Ben Browder, Oh,
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come on, guys, he's one of the leads of the show anyway.
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Do you mean do you mean the Marina Backron and Ben Browner in this?
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And I've bought the DVD? How lucky am I? There's only seven
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pictures of them on this particular case. And I got out of a box
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set with her in the body front and there was it was so glad I
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read that there was a poster that's easy DVD now just having a laugh.
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At this point, I'd like to revoke my my support for physical media at
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this point. Do you want to read the Prime one? Now? You
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know what, as long as they don't have the brackets in there? Yeah,
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yeah, no they have the pop up on the side, yeah yeah,
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yeah, of course. Yeah. The x ray on Amazon. Yeah,
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I'm like, oh the x ray it's good, so helpful. I
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mean, I don't often go into it, but I'm like, I know
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it's there if I need it. I'm already on IM. If it's a
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show I like and I'm watching it I'm already IMDb on my phone. I
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would hate looking at the X ray on the screen. That would be covering
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up the very show that I'm watching. Yeah, yeah, there is that
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bezos fit does pause it. But more annoying thing I think I've already said
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is that you pause it to go to the shitter and then it shows you
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a character who already died and now they're back in this sea and you haven't
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seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on, fix that fixed
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spoilers. I want to show an episode for myself the other day watching it
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literally a post credit thing, not even revealed a like debooda character. But
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I was looking up a character name for someone who already appeared in the episode.
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I'm, oh, what's their name? I can't quite you know,
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And it was like right next to them with someone who hadn't yet appeared in
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the episode, and I'm like, couldn't you just not credit them for that
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episode? Like barely know there there for four seconds? Why would you do
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that to me? Anyway, bloody quest ahesive go. Yeah, you know,
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I've been talking a lot about seasons nine and ten as we've gone on,
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I feel like, even though I only remember watching these seasons once back
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in the day. I remembered a lot more about season nine in this rewatch,
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and it feels a little bit more familiar. There is so much about
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season ten that is so new to me, and across both of these there
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are shit that's going on that I'm like, all of a sudden, Daniel's
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sitting there with telekinetic powers and he's got the memories of Merlin. I'm like,
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you could have given this to me and said, these are the two
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missing episodes of Stargate SG one that were never released, and I would have
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absolutely believed you didn't feel fail it all. Well, I don't forget we've
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been doing this podcast for like nine years, Like I haven't seen anything,
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stopped watching Stargate regularly. Yeah, just to follow on our continuation. Yeah
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yeah, well you know what didn't was seeing this for at least ten years.
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Yeah. Well, okay. The one thing that did seem somewhat familiar
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to me was the maze getting before they even reached bar like frozen, really
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cool old starget su this episode, Yes, so many episodes like it.
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The reason I thought it might have been familiar to the both of you is,
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according to the Trivia for this episode, and I wouldn't only get it
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that's one for this, but it's probably that's one for you guys. I
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feel like you just someone someone's decided. Someone's decided to add here as the
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trivia for this episode, and I quote, I feel like you did this
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last week. The plot for this episode is similar to that of J.
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R. Tolkien's novel The Hobbit, in that a group of adventures it gonna
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say that to find a treasure located in solitary mountain guarded by a dragon.
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Yeah, I actually wrote that down. Yeah, we're going to laugh about
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it and we laugh. That's a stretch, Yeah, yeah, like a
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little bit. Yeah, but I felt that it was weak. You press
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play, you know that it's Quest Part Does it Part one? No?
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And there was some much debate in the writer's room about whether it needs Quest
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Part one and then the Quest Part two or the Quest and the Quest Part
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two, And a lot of people argued, well, you can't have the
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Quest part two if you don't have the Quest part one. I think I
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kind of I forget which movie did that a couple of years ago where it
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played out and then only at the end. It was like I don't want
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to say June, but just because like there was part two out at the
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moment, it was something like that, you're watching a movie and then the
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Turk Part one. I feel like a lot. I almost can't remember another
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and they had part one at the start of this. Is that what you're
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saying. They thought about not doing it, but they ended up doing it
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because they had part two. Yeah, I think it was right. There
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was a discussion. Yeah, I was gonna say even reading that but obviously
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pressing play and knowing that I was watching a part one because of the pacing,
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and it didn't feel like, hey, we've got two parts, let's
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really take some breathing time. I didn't feel like the first episode was wasted.
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It felt old school SG one. It felt well paced and like a
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story weld so I didn't you know, they went from little little quest bit
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to different quest bit and then they get there and they have to come up
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with some different answers and area shows up. She's revealed there and then she
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has to help them do things, and I'm like, I still didn't feel
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like I feel like we could have got to this bit a little bit faster.
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Guys, I feel like we could have got you know, by the
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end of part two. I'm not like Jesus Christ, this feels like it
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should have been wrapped up fifteen minutes into the second episode. I didn't feel
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like they stretched it out. I felt like this was earned and I felt
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and I'm only saying this because it does feel like new episodes to me,
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I felt like it was that old school SG one feel, especially in the
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first episode, and it was in the second, but it started to get
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taken over because there was so much more Merlin stuff to it and all right
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to it and ancient but ancient season nine to ten ancient to it. So
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it felt very late Stargate SG one, But the narrative in the way that
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it was told in the first episode felt very much like an old school individual
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singular SG one episode, I think. But together, I really liked that
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it was a nice yeah over the we The part of this episode that felt
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that the most like early SG one to me was that god awful CGI dragon.
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Oh yeah, and then they came running out of the cave and did
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you see that cgo or it was just green b I mean, it wasn't
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the worst I've ever seen, and for that time year two thousand. Yeah,
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I mean that's eleven years after Jurassic Park. Yeah, and I guess
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thirteen. Oh that's I always think it's ninety five. Yeah. No,
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that's the thing, and it's such a great gold standard to go back to
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ninety three. You look at it now and you're like, okay, yeah,
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maybe, but still for that timecause I don't forgets of Harry Potter as
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well, don't forget the Yeah, that's true. But the thing is they
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didn't have that technology or they used to use different rendering for TV than they
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did with movies. Oh yeah. Budget it was all come down to how
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much you can to afford, like, yeah, so the TV budgets were
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never as big as the movie. So that's what I mean. Comparing it
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to a movie is is probably not not good, not fair on the episode,
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but I feel like, but also into another TV no one, No
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one forced them to put a giant CGI dragon in two episodes of a television
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show when they couldn't afford it, especially the entire dragon, and in daylight
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too, like they could have frolicking through brass that doesn't move when it runs
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through it. Who wrote and directed these? They didn't Joe and Paul,
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both of them. Andy mkeita, Yeah, I believe Joe wrote part one
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and Paul wrote part two from memory of the of the commentary, and and
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I think Andy McKeith is this sick, sick puppy the start of part two
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when the dragon comes out of the out of the mountain and then they do
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this crazy crane shot and it's the only thing the shot does is show you
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Marina Backron's tits and they're all standing there. Look, yeah, I don't
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remember seeing that, but talking about I was watching on my laptop. It
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wasn't big enough. I will I'm sure they were, the screen wasn't.
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I will give an Akita infinite leeway because there was one sheer genius thing that
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he wanted to do that would have affected the series address no moving forward that
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everyone else everyone else chickened out on. Rob had had Rob Cooper had come
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down to the Satin host if they could, you know, should anew a
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new passed through. Rick was in town Richard, And that was actually quite
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a funny thing was Rick was basically sitting with me at the monitor with a
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little tear in his eye, thinking that I should actually be there, I
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should be in there, and I at one point was and I almost had
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him convinced to do it. I was going to actually have him in the
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control room, just very subtly in the background for the shot bringing Claudia in.
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But so we've spoken about it a few times, as the episode was
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a Memento Maury where Varla officially joins s G one and changed, and they
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changed the opening credits to that bit where she runs into catch up with the
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team, and miki'da shot that during filling for this episode, in which Richard
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Deanis had happened to be on set visiting way and his idea was in the
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far far background in the control room where Walter sits, he was going to
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have O'Neill sitting there in the opening credits. O'Neil could have been in the
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opening credits for the rest of the show, and they all chickened out why.
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I don't know. It would have been so good, but that would
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make sense because as a new member of STU want it could have been off
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camera. You didn't have to write a scene. It's like, oh,
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O'Neill was there. Cool, Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, And he
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would have been in the opening credits. For every episode for the rest of
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the series. That sucks. I feel like, and unless you guys are
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going to mention it otherwise, there was almost an O'Neill cameo in this This
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is not ever made something. I was obviously listening to it. I hadn't
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headphones and I wasn't just listening to the speakers coming out of my laptops.
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I felt like, absolutely, I'm immersing myself. Ever since I watched June
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on an actual giant screen TV with headphones, and I've just been listening to
20:07
everything with headphones and I'm like, oh my god, I've actually really got
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to pay attention to the to the sound. I'm going to play this bit.
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It's towards the end of the episode, and it's just it's it's a
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line. I don't know which character actually says it, but it's it's almost
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not even loud enough to really It's not like they didn't mean for you to
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actually pay attention to it. You hear that there was an oh for crying
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out loud. Really, someone mutters that in the background as because I was
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what a wonderful edition, that's incredible. Yeah, I did notice that.
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I was like a meer cat. When that happened, I was just sort
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of because I'm like, oh, Maddie wouldn't pick that up. He even
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knew that I spotted the other potential O'Neill cameo, which leads us into a
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little bit of a fan theory that I discovered. So when we encounter Ball
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and he is trapped in the force field, and they realize, oh,
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to get out of this, everyone has to give something up. Ball the
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only thing he has on him they give. He has to give up a
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dagger, and he says, that has incredible sentimental value to me. That
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is the dagger from Abyss that he tortured the gravity field gravity field one that
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he was stabbing O'Neil with. That's that's the dagger. But wasn't he dropping
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dropping heaps of the morning? Yeah, but obviously kept one of them whatever,
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you know, he was there was one he was dripping in poison.
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He was dropping one in poison and dropping the very dragged. Well, we
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don't see the blade in this, We just see it in it in a
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sheath. We just see the handle of the people have confirmed that the that's
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the right handle, really, which then leads into the fan theory that you
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go, well, well, I mean you've poked a hole in it,
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which is fantastic. There was there's multiple daggers. I thought there was because
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the fan theory is, well, if there's only one dagger that exists,
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then the real bar must be the one in possession of it, because back
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when O'Neill was tortured in Abyss, there was only one bar, so the
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fan theory being, and this the bar at the end of this episode isn't
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killed, So the theory the end of this is this is the real bar,
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which I just assumed because they didn't show any other clones. I'm like,
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I'm just going to assume this is the real bar. Yeah, And
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it seemed like a very important thing too, like to be trying to find
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the same because I thought they were going to take his music bar off him.
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That's what I thought. I wanted this, and then why the gold
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would need a yeah, protein I kind of found that at the end where
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because he was hung because they've been stuck in there for a couple of days,
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three days, it does seem weird. Yeah, But they also no
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flange either. No flange of the entire double episode outrageous and I feel they
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nerved him a bit too, because if you remember back in you know,
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the early seasons, Pofice could backhand till can he go flying across the room.
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Tilk Man handled Ball in this multiple times at the start when they searched
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him for the dagger and the hand device. He couldn't just whip him.
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Well, I don't know. I feel like, you know, we lave
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that we've seen will be incredibly strong, like Carter when she was taken over
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by Tokra. They seem to you very early, very early, like seasons
23:41
one, two, and three, they leaned into the world having super strength
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and very much dialed back on that and the fact that Bar was but was
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just a dude. He was just it was just a dude. What you
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said, and you say that like he got manhandled a bit. I feel
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like Bars always had a little bit more patience like a Pofus was very much
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the longer Yeah, like respect me. Now I've got the power and I
24:04
already am the biggest and the batter school out there. Whereas Bal's always like
24:08
willing to buy the long game. So like the idea, oh I'm going
24:11
to let him men men handle me and to thinking that they've got some kind
24:15
of control because I'm out man and mount numbered or whatever. Yeah, I
24:17
think he would also find it amusing. Lack Apopus would be like, how
24:19
dare you, you know, stand up to my authority, whereas Ball just
24:25
kind of he finds it amusing. He's playing with kittens. From his point
24:27
of view, he's playing with kittens, you know, So he's just like,
24:30
oh, you're adorable. You're trying to be tough. When he throws
24:32
it out in the midway through the second episode and Card is trying to figure
24:36
some shit out, he's like, the fact that they would give this to
24:38
a tollery woman, you're getting speciesist, You're getting sexist. And then she's
24:45
like, sorry, I can't work this out because I'm human, because I
24:49
thought we were going to get some reproductive Wilgans on the inside. And he's
24:53
still do I guess maybe a little bit of both the audio of Abe Simpson
24:59
little from McCallum, little fromccallum me heeper. Yeah, I did find something
25:04
interesting though. Once uh, when once we meet Merlin and he makes like
25:11
a guinevere comment about Carter or whatever she does look like, and then Daniel
25:15
Daniel kind of doubles it up and goes, oh yeah, Perceval and Galahad
25:18
and all that kind of stuff. Shut up, Daniel, No, I
25:22
just I just had a I just had a you know again, It's like,
25:26
just okay. So if Carter is Gwenevere Daniels Galahad, Cameron's Percival,
25:32
does that make O'Neill Arthur or does it make him Lancelot? Because Gwenevie married
25:38
Arthur that she was she was in love with Lancelot and ran away with Lancelot.
25:44
Yep, So who does that make Arthur? Then? Who's Arthur King?
25:48
Arthur, Arthur Shelby It happened, yes, and obviously not Ti because
25:57
he's black and you kind of black people in No, no, not at
26:00
that time, at that time. Only if you Morgan Freeman in that Robin
26:07
Hood and Robin you know what, That's exactly what I remember we watch I
26:11
feel like we watched that in school or at least referenced it when we were
26:14
talking about you know, medieval times and blah blah blah, and the teachers
26:17
showing us a section from that film and then she paused it to go now,
26:22
not verbatim, I'm not quoting. It was basically like now, black
26:26
people and white people really wouldn't have gotten along like this back then, but
26:29
of course this is It was basically to say, look, don't just go
26:33
he's a nice Okay, he's a nice rich white guy that just felt sorry
26:36
for the black guy that helped him in jail. Okay, yeah, he's
26:37
going to keep him around, not as a slave, but as an equal
26:40
friend. Okay. It's just like miss just press Plate is really making me
26:45
understand where you guys into what carab was, because no, it's too dark
26:52
of a chocolate. That's why talk about it. You guys. You guys
26:56
got Milky bar bar, You got the full history of the Milky bar,
27:00
kid Milky Way or black and the in so long as you're whe the inside,
27:06
as long as you act white. I'm just trying to out Brendan.
27:11
Brendan, I would like to make a stand right now for anyone listening who
27:22
wants to get in our comments and start that stupid discourse about a dragon versus
27:30
a woman. You can all van, my god, you don't know anything.
27:41
What are you trying to say? Okay, there is a subset.
27:45
Something happened. You tell me something. Where was Gondor when the Westfold fell.
27:48
God, Yeah, I've always wondered. Tell us that know it all
27:52
mats et in some giant eagles rolling in the river. That's where slob it
28:03
on some cherry tomatoes. I don't know. I'm not saying this is not
28:07
again there's like I don't wiven. Actually no, it's it's a it's all
28:15
roosters of chickens, but not all chickens are rooster situation. So there's a
28:18
whole subsect of the internet and dragon girls that are so that the dragons from
28:23
Game of Thrones, Yeah, they're not technically dragons, they're rivens. So
28:30
technically a dragon has four legs and two wings, but a wivern has two
28:34
legs and then two winged arms. You can all shut the fuck up.
28:42
You can't say you elf is the same as a dwarf. That's racist,
28:45
trimey. So trying well twenty twenty four, you're gonna say, I can't
28:52
make a movie called Snow White and the Seven Elves. No, they should
28:56
do that and cast all people over six foot all. Yeah. Absolutely,
29:00
It's a bit like the Christmas Civil War, where before Santa really had his
29:04
people, it was the Elves versus the Dwarfs. Yeah, Futuma Santa goes
29:11
to war with the elves. Oh really yeah, and they're all gay and
29:15
have four hands. That makes sense legless, isn't it? Oh my god?
29:18
Did you see that meme the other day? And in the one the
29:22
interview with what's the guy who played leg Bloom Mister, he's doing an interview.
29:30
I think it might have been during COVID, but he was doing like
29:30
a zoom interview with Jimmy Kimmel or whatever, and he was, you know,
29:34
in his study or whatever, and behind him was a full wall of
29:37
lego, like he had like lego constructions, and then said, oh no,
29:41
wouldn't it be terrible if someone robbed him because then he'd be lego less.
29:47
I don't mind that. It's pretty good. That's close. That's as
29:49
close to like Lord of the Ring Ship as we'll get. I mean,
29:52
he's really said it. I mean he's setting himself up for that sort of
29:56
galley. Well, he's gonna put this in probably so much. And he's
29:59
like, he's like, I've got a nine foot dick. I don't care
30:03
what one foot dick. You didn't see that, you didn't see the pap
30:07
snap him like when he was paddle boarding naked with dating Katie Perry, just
30:14
casting like a nine foot cock shadows stand up paddle boarding. Yeah, and
30:17
he was just yeah, yeah, hear that elvish thing like ship act like
30:23
a third four. Yeah, he's handsome. You know what the oscars this
30:30
year tells us killing Murphy tiny penis great actor wind out blame doesn't need to
30:36
doesn't need it. Yeah, dragon girls, shut up. It's long to
30:41
say, Oh my god, is this going to be another swifty issue?
30:45
Maybe come at me. Oh, I think you're finding a smaller niche.
30:49
An't you believe? I believe. I believe. In comedy terms, that's
30:56
known as punching down. That's how we like it. Good stuff. Hey,
31:00
I remember Stargate? Yeah? Do you does this episode posit the idea
31:08
that violence posit mit? Do you mean like deposits? Does your school offer
31:17
refunds? I? Actually I think it has parents. I think your parents
31:23
are your parents to rebate of some kind. And it was like we didn't
31:30
pay a lot to go to school. But even then I feel like the
31:33
value to results Wasn't you know there was no equilibrium there? Opposite? How
31:40
does it the term theorized, you prefer theories. I forget what you were
31:44
saying that does this? Does this episode insinuate that Varla has the at a
31:51
G because when she walked past the little head grab a thing, it activated
31:56
into her presence. That was confirmed apart from Til. Hence why I said
32:02
theorized. But then I had to dumb it down. What did you say
32:07
prior? I started with posits deposit posit, which is yeah, a different
32:12
I would deposit that kilk No, because she's white, because Tilk remember in
32:20
the Cooper one fifth Race, Yeah, Tilk looked in there and it was
32:25
just black then, and Neil looked in there. White racist ancients are racist,
32:30
Well, yeah, we've always known that. But VALA's white, then
32:34
that's white activator. So he's saying it's activated because she's white, not because
32:37
she has the atagh because there's no obviously no black ancients, no black ancients.
32:43
Actually, sad I was trying to think so in that in Atlanta,
32:45
was thinking what Amazon could do to make Stargate great again? Black obviously,
32:51
make it woke, make it work again, like the X Men, Yeah,
32:55
stinking x men. Yeah, trying to be progressive all of a sudden.
33:00
Yeah. Actually, if if stargate was made now, I think you
33:01
can make a solid case of the ancients, like assented ancients could be the
33:05
Thems. Do we need to though they would? That's like who cares what
33:10
they They can anything because they're not physical would make them. Well technically God
33:15
is are they them? But don't tell the Christians that because they'll freak them
33:19
out. Hm. I was watching out. If God made us in his
33:23
image, he must have both a penis and vagina, which would make it.
33:28
Dare use their logic against the Matthew, Wow, that's a hermaphrodite.
33:32
Yeah, they can go by they them? No, Yeah, pick one?
33:37
How dare you? Twenty four? Someone needs to pick their Well,
33:45
he's he's God. He probably has it's like an Indian and out he he's
33:46
like inny how he can he can go from street? Yours was good?
33:53
His was better. A few like they missed something kind of important here.
34:01
They just skimmed over it. It could have been like a great stargatey moment
34:07
kind of meaning of life stuff. And I'll tell you why. They're trying
34:10
to find the san Gral, which we all know the planets were given by
34:15
Morgan le Fay, which I remember you saying you had an issue with that
34:17
because the planets that Morgan gave them did nothing. Yes, it was the
34:22
Hala, Casiana and Vegan Bray, which then combined with the Camelot planet created
34:28
a three sided pyramid at the center of which was this planet. Yeah.
34:31
So the thing is that kind of throws me off is that, like have
34:37
they they a they've had this Daniel said, it's a perfect tetrahedron, a
34:45
perfect pyramid, three sided. How that would be difficult, especially with stellar
34:52
drift when you think about our starget. Very first thought was because I was
34:55
like Sangral center of the universe, like they kind of touch on it in
35:00
Universe in one episode. But it sounds like the Ancient's created all of those
35:07
planets if you'd read in it to it deep enough, they I think they
35:10
would have had to have created this planet. I think Merlin does say at
35:14
the end he posited or deposited people on these planets, because if you think
35:21
about it, this planet that they've been on is with this Camelot level of
35:24
technology has been around for thousands of years. They read ancient, They have
35:30
a library full of ancient books. The bar maid says, people have been
35:36
seeking the sung Gral for thousands of years. They've been untouched by the gua
35:40
would so they can't be on the car too, So they've got to be
35:43
separated from that. Yet they're still living in a medieval society. Society they
35:49
haven't progressed at any point, which I think feels disingenuous to starget. I
35:53
mean you could argue, like you go back to Red Sky, those people
35:57
were on like an as Guard protected planet and they were still living like pilgrims.
36:00
Yeah, that's a bit more advanced. Yeah, it's like, if
36:02
you think about this, this society has been stagnant for thousands of years and
36:06
hasn't invented technology. Still banging on about Marlin that looks boring. Yeah,
36:10
yeah, that was obviously his kink. Like once you know, Daniel took
36:15
his memories on, He's like, I remember this and the technology and blah
36:19
blah blahen and all the different medieval cultures he started across the galaxy and like
36:22
he's just like, nah, this is perfect. Either this is what I
36:25
love or these people and this kind of level society is going to be dumb
36:29
enough to just talk about these people forever. These people, like, you
36:34
know, their ass cracks are just wet, wet mud, you know what
36:37
I mean? Like that place ower, what see what running water, he'd
36:44
be he'd be stinky. Yeah, Merlin cheese lion. Do you reckon that
36:50
was his his og body? Like the fact that like, yeah, yeah,
36:53
that's that's that's the same actor from before I Sleep. Yeah, yeah,
36:58
okay, so that's Moros. That's that that literal body left Atlantis ten
37:02
thousand years ago and yeah, DVD Matthew whatever his name is. Do you
37:07
think it's kind of weird that they Daniel wouldn't have heard about were's kind of
37:14
journey the ancient No one read cover to cover. No one knows that story
37:21
because Old Weird died, so it was only what she was able to tell.
37:24
Yeah, but that's what I mean, Like, wouldn't Daniel be like,
37:29
do you know, do you remember seeing like a human? No?
37:34
Because I feel like when he was that was when he went to remember when
37:37
he went to the Pegasust project. He was swiping through the face of the
37:40
Pegasust Facebook and you know, and Morros would have been in there, and
37:45
obviously they already know Moros from his hologram in in Avalon back in the start
37:52
of season nine. Again, say actor Matthew Walker. Yeah, so I'm
37:57
sure, and he knew back then that his name was Morros, also Mired
38:00
and also Merlin. Yeah, but I don't think we had anything interesting to
38:05
Daniel that we met him, but not that weird. It's a dead old.
38:08
It's an old, dead weird that he can't talk to. The weird
38:10
that we know never met him. It was the dead weird. Yeah,
38:14
but you know what I'm saying is he would have read the found the report
38:16
fascinating and asked him about it. It's an exact dude from ten thousand years
38:22
ago, met doctor Weir, the person who was in charge of the SGC.
38:27
It's pretty cool and he's just like you know, most politic. So
38:34
I don't know I talking about Daniel and Merlin. I mean I know,
38:37
like I mean, Reese and I both worked at uh Brisbane Traffic and if
38:44
you talked about the and the cave, yeah, the key So that if
38:47
I if I ran into someone that I worked with over ten years ago at
38:51
that place, I'm not gonna be like, oh, how's recently worked there?
38:53
How good? Was that absolutely not. I don't get the connection.
38:59
Well, if Reese traveled back ten thousand years, even ten, then I
39:05
would be like, then you might you know the guy that traveled back ten
39:08
thousand years, that guy I don't know. Oh yeah, that was wild.
39:13
If there was a something were literally leaving Atlantis like sinking, and then
39:16
some bitch from ten thousand years in the future so horny like you should have.
39:22
She was moist, like when I put her in that refrigerator was wild.
39:27
But she was asking me about this these nbms. I'm like, no,
39:30
that's like, it's not a thing. But we can do whatever you
39:34
want to. She's like, so I can rotate them like every inside me
39:38
every couple of thousand years, and she's like, yeah, do it well.
39:43
But they only kind of really seemed to hang out for about ten minutes
39:45
before Merlin was out, and then Daniel jumped in the thing and got all
39:50
the memories, So I guess he knows all that stuff. He knows everything
39:52
Morris knows now, so he probably at that point has those memories of meeting
39:58
Ultimate Whir and he's he has memories of watching the security tape when we would
40:02
wake up and go ham on that Z. No, Morris wouldn't have that
40:07
because he never went back to Atlantic. No, but he'd have the data
40:12
from Atlantis. Yeah, they'd sending update and all that. Surely, Oh
40:15
you mean Daniel not Merlin. No Merlin? Whoa did you just like I
40:22
almost yet I reflexes that cat. Oh my god, oh see me.
40:27
The date was so good. Yeah, you do a couple more of those.
40:31
You might want to check you don't have a child out there. So
40:34
did Merlin create those planets? That was the main thing I wanted to kind
40:37
of find. Did he create the planet or the Solar system? I think
40:42
perfect pyramids? Still after ten thousand years of still adrift? Well even yeah,
40:47
DHD had to handle, couldn't. Like so we go back to the
40:51
start of at the start of the show or kind of film, but like
40:55
this really the start of the show, and they, oh, we have
40:58
to you know ajustice a drift that was since that riding had been put on
41:04
the walls of the Cartousians. How long had that been? Like, uh,
41:12
three thousand, Yeah, so like nowhere near as long. Yeah,
41:15
and we had to adjust for that. Yeah, three thousand was long enough,
41:17
but ten thousand, we're like that's still Perfect's because we didn't have a
41:21
DHD. Yes, where the dhd's automatically saying is it shouldn't be a perfect
41:27
tetrahedron pyramid. It should have moved correct. I don't think he created it
41:32
in my mind he or not him, but the ancients, No, I
41:37
think it was completely Merlin as an ascended ancient. I think using his nose,
41:40
he went, oh, he's stumbled. He's like, where can I
41:45
hide this? Oh? I found this cool rock like in the same way
41:50
we'd be going on a hiking. I found this cool rock formation. I'm
41:52
going to hide something in the middle of it. He's like, oh,
41:54
I found this cool planet formation. I'm going to put humans on these plant
42:00
That's where I could put stargates, And I'm going to hide the fact that
42:02
I'm doing something by putting humans on there. And then I'm going to hide
42:06
my thing right in the middle of it. And then yeah, going back
42:08
to what we talked about, was it in the middle though, because I
42:10
thought it was just using the symbols of each of those gates, which I
42:15
mean, I assume it was within the region, within that triangle, but
42:17
yeah, within the connection. Was the idea of it was using the same
42:23
glyphs as each of the each of those addresses. It was kind of it
42:30
goes back to that. And then because Carter was expecting hundreds of permutations and
42:35
there's only one, it's like that is by design. Yeah, well I
42:38
think, yeah, I think because if she thought there was going to be
42:42
more than one and there was only one, it's like, dude, she's
42:45
smarter enough to know the odds of that just quickly. But that's why they
42:50
went No, I get it. But what I'm saying is it's by design,
42:53
is that they're in that location. I think that the four star gates
43:00
making the tetrahedron were by design. Merlin did that. I don't think he
43:05
moved planets into a position to make it happen, but I think he discovered
43:08
that cool formation and when that would be a cool place for me to hide
43:12
something in the universe, because you have to remember, he's hiding his construction
43:15
of the sung Gral from the other ancients. That's what I mean, though,
43:19
like, yeah, I just liked the idea. I'm not an astrophysicist,
43:22
so maybe there are millions of star constellations that can perfor from a perfect
43:28
pyramid. I guess if you have to think about those actual points, I
43:31
wouldn't consider it the planet. I would consider it the star, the planet
43:36
orbits. Yeah, me too. Yeah, so I think they'd probably be
43:38
a little bit less drift there then, because you got to remember it's it
43:44
hasn't been ten thousand years. It's only been since medieval times really, so
43:49
it's been less time since ancient Egypt. It's been like post JC. Yeah,
43:54
so maybe it's only been a you know, fifteen hundred years or something
43:58
like that, since it's got to be. Yeah, when I king Arthur
44:00
the question if you guys reckoned it was made by Merlin or an alien or
44:06
an ancient or was it just by chance like he maybe says rock formation.
44:10
Yeah, I think the planet formation was by chance, and then Merlin took
44:15
advantage of it and used it to his benefit and put I just found the
44:17
wording of Daniel's line perfect pyramid. I was like, yeah, you shouldn't
44:22
have said perfect. Yeah, Like this is why I've been nitpicking, because
44:28
a dells into something that could be incredible. It's funny. You mean you
44:31
put that in something like created certain amount of solar systems, say four or
44:37
five solar systems and the sun grass in that that means that the history of
44:39
the san Gral is what is the Jesus cup, right or whatever it is,
44:44
and the Holy Grail that's basically what it is. So that knowledge went
44:51
back to Christ, see what I mean? Yeah, so in medieval times
44:55
Christ was already dead for fifteen hundred years, so it had to be before
45:00
that. What did the sun graul? No, because I think you're I
45:07
mean, Christmas is a is a pagan tradition that Christian stole. But what
45:10
is I don't know what the the Holy Grail is tradition is? Well,
45:16
I mean you'd have that's you You're assuming that the whole story of Merlin and
45:21
Arthur and Camelot is a real story, not just a fable like you know,
45:24
yeah, because it in the show it is. Yeah. Know what
45:28
I'm saying is like you had made a good point saying that there was five
45:31
hundred years ago, was like whatever medieval times thirty fourteen, fifteen hundreds.
45:36
Yeah, so that but the same graul dates back to whatever that Christian religion
45:44
is, right, But but the the Holy Grail wasn't the Holy Grail while
45:50
Jesus was alive. It was something that people made up long long after his
45:54
death. The Bible wasn't written until hundreds of years after Jesus Christ, if
45:59
that, if you believe that, I mean, just as a human being
46:00
existed, whether or not he was the Messiah or whatever. The Bible was
46:05
written hundreds if not like hundreds of years after Jesus Christ died. Whether they
46:08
couldn't fact check, he had nothing to do with that. So then this
46:14
came, this fable came around about the Holy Grail being the cup that Jesus
46:19
drank from at the Last Supper. That's what it was. Yeah, So
46:24
according to Indiandig a documentary called The Last Crusade, that's what That's what I'm
46:30
trying to get at, yeah, is that this has huge, deep Christian
46:35
roots. But Christians are known for stealing other cultures when Christianity came in their
46:39
parasites, like the exactly Christian When Christianity came in Pagan pagan religion was the
46:45
accepted religion or ancient Greeks and ancient Roman religions. What Christianity did to you
46:52
know, insert itself in was take other religions, take other things from them
46:57
and incorporate them into christian reckon it's older to make it cool. No,
47:00
I'm saying Christianity came later and stole it, and they just keep stealing it
47:05
along the way. Correct, We've always had this, hadn't we Yeah,
47:08
got that to the idea. You don't have it. What do you mean
47:12
the idea of bringing a tree inside during the winter to preserve it and have
47:15
it live is a pagan ritual which became the Christmas tree. Yep, of
47:22
course. So what about the bunny? That guy's just a slut. It's
47:30
funny that you that was all the stuff that you clicked on, because the
47:32
thing that I clicked on that we never got an answer in this episode is
47:36
what the fuck was Darryl the Dragon? Yeah, he wasn't He wasn't a
47:42
hologram. It's confirmed he's not a hologram. We threw C four down his
47:46
throat. He just kind of puffed out of dragon. Yeah, but then
47:52
we shouldn't have said that. We said his name perhaps puff Well, it
47:57
turns out Daryl the Darrel the Dragon Raverens Cumbra Batch. Did you know this?
48:00
So the Captain Interanil You know, love Love will keep us together?
48:07
The Captain from the Captain in Neil. His real name is Daryl Dragon.
48:12
That was the joke who is born with the badass name of Darryl Dragon and
48:17
decides to go by the captain in Tanil. Yeah that's not good, ridiculous.
48:22
But anyway, back to this dragon ol Dragon, he would have crushed
48:25
Red half the work exactly. Well they did all the work really, but
48:32
yeah, so then Daniel runs out says Gunnis Laal, which is Morgan's ancient
48:38
name, and it just blips into oblivion. Oh yeah, so was it
48:45
a solid hologram, Like this's a hologram with mass, like what like an
48:50
ancient made hologram? Yeah, I don't know, like we've we've dealt with
48:54
holograms before. I mean, the Merlin we encountered in the Avalon Cave was
48:59
the holog the I guess the sword. The sword and the Black Knight were
49:07
both holograms. The sword wasn't the one that the lady girl. But no,
49:15
I'm talking about Avalon. I'm not talk about Camelon. I'm about Avalon
49:17
region in the cave Blastonbury. I can't remember with that, but obviously when
49:23
Daniel, when cam was fighting the the Knight who was a hologram. It
49:29
connected and stuff like that. But then when he threw the sword to Tilk
49:32
and Tilk attacked the Black Knight, it went straight through. So maybe the
49:36
dragon was just a hologram like that that can be solid or not solid.
49:40
They should have made it a hologram. Yeah, because then you can buy
49:45
in that. I am that's why we used to think dragons existed. But
49:49
also on the other hand, Cartero was like, no way. I'm like,
49:52
dude, what you've seen ets. You've seen people coming back from the
49:57
dead, You've seen the craziest ship You've I've seen realities, forty versions of
50:02
yourself. Yeah, and you don't think you've seen plant people root in the
50:07
ground. It's all this shit, And you can't believe in a dragon on
50:12
a different planet it's not Earth. Well, that's because it was dinosaurs here.
50:15
Imagine if there's a dinosaur with wings there was, it's called a pterodactyl.
50:21
That's because Karter has prudence, but she doesn't have faith. In the
50:25
original version, I think I had more virtues, and then we had to
50:29
sort of trim them down, and I wanted each of the characters to convey
50:32
a different virtue, and in this case it would be Carter, who I
50:37
don't remember which virtue may be a prudence I think at this point, or
50:42
and basically it's just show her ingenuity or in this case, actually just you
50:46
know what would be the simple solution? I mean, you don't have technology,
50:51
and chances are that in Arthur's time you wouldn't have had the technology.
50:53
How would you get around it? And she decides to pick up the rock
50:57
and throw it, and she finds her out of the out of the maze
51:01
doing this. Of course, I know that on the day the actress said,
51:05
or wouldn't it just be easier to pick up a handful of sand and
51:07
throw it and create kind of a tunnel, And truly it would, but
51:13
it would probably would have blown the budget of the episode. So I kind
51:15
of thought the rocks were cool enough. The rock was cool enough, but
51:21
I thought of this sand immediately. When she threw the rock, It's like,
51:24
well, yeah, and also you if you make one little mistake,
51:30
the thing was going to just fire a spray p ninety fire. I mean,
51:35
they would have killed all the people are in there eventually. Imagine when
51:40
they come through that field, it's like twenty thousand years later. Oh yeah,
51:44
the whole family's dead. That the trees around them are dead. It's
51:47
like, what the But the first of all, we're just talking about this
51:52
scene though, the maze scene. Cardi goes, oh, how do we
51:55
find our way back? It's like, wouldn't you I would have been during
51:59
dragging my feet? Yeah, ever handsole and maybe there's six people following.
52:06
Carter could have handled that and like done something well. Carter was making sure
52:08
they don't fall into a temporal field. Follow our footsteps. They're like two
52:14
by two and they're really close together. Yeah, we could do that.
52:16
But I do feel like at the end of the first episode, I think
52:20
I didn't like I liked the force field bars caught in. I liked the
52:24
time dilation once they got into the cave and they had to to rush and
52:30
like solve those riddles. That kind of bummed me out. I wish we'd
52:34
taken more time with that. So, based on what he was saying in
52:37
that commentary, how would you guys have felt if maybe we had a little
52:40
less dragon and maybe they'd spaced it out. Maybe they did three in the
52:45
first episode, in the final two. In the next episode before then all
52:47
the Morlin stuff happened that you know, Prudence, wisdom, charity, kindness,
52:53
and faith were like split up between the five members of s G one
52:58
and like, you know, one of them had to solve it. Would
53:00
it felt a little bit too cheesy that it's like, oh, only a
53:02
s G one consolve it because each one of them has the thing that's needed
53:07
or would have been cool to see each SG one member flex a little bit
53:12
with our powers combined. Yeah, go full voltron. I didn't make that
53:17
connection. Well, that's all the commentary was saying. That was the initial
53:21
idea was it was going to be there was gonna be you know, five
53:23
virtues, five SGU one. Yeah, and I don't know car Carter showed
53:28
Prudence in the time dilation. They'd give me a list. I find it
53:32
very boring, right, we have to go through this one? Yeah,
53:35
because I basically know there's going to be five puzzles and I know that tis
53:38
already done. Here's yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, it was kardon
53:43
whatever, and I lose interest immediately. That's why I couldn't watch Arrow because
53:45
he had a list, got a list, and they felt like the first
53:50
season and a half. Yeah, first two and then it had all plenty
53:52
of other problems to deal with. Just avoid the blacklists, which is ten
53:57
seasons of that. Yeah, I mean, like course, but becauseldn't avoid
54:00
it, it's got black in the name Jesus. Yeah, great call.
54:09
And I guess the only thing to keep in mind for next week or the
54:13
week after is, yeah, Daniel's gone again. Andreas got him. I
54:19
think it was a weird that it left on the cliffhanger, the double power.
54:22
It's the thing that I spoke about a while ago when Daniel went missing
54:27
for a couple of episodes. Is now he's due his other two episodes off.
54:30
So that's why they had to do this, is because Daniel had to
54:32
take them on two weeks off as part of his contract. It's in my
54:36
contract. This is what I was saying when you were go on Brendan about
54:42
I don't even know which episode I must have been ready to watch. Maybe
54:45
it was Company of Thieves. Actually yeah, I think it was, and
54:49
I inserted the wrong DVD. So I've pressed play on what I thought was
54:58
Company of Thieves because that's what the DV he told me that was. And
55:00
it starts with I don't know, Carter in a lab or something on the
55:05
base and maybe Mitchell walks in or something like that. Oh and he news
55:07
about Daniel is he's still missing, you know whatever they say. And I'm
55:10
like, what the have I missed this? Fast forward through to the title
55:15
and like, oh, this is not Company of Thieves And I've kind of
55:19
ruined this for myself. So again I've seen it, but don't remember anything
55:22
of it. So come the end of the quest, when he's got all
55:23
these he's been leveled up, and then you go, I'll be right behind
55:28
you. And I'm like, man, that's what everyone said. They don't
55:30
immediately go right behind them. Yeah. I feel like we've probably skipped so
55:35
much of this ship. But I liked the ancient depository, how he had
55:39
a kind of a different one with the handles, Yeah, that he could
55:43
create stuff with as well created And I wonder if there's a bunch of them
55:46
around Yeah. Probably. Well I guess they had to be because there was
55:50
multiples because they were jumping planets. Yeah. Actually I didn't get that,
55:53
to be honest, Like, was his house moving that's what? Yeah,
55:57
I know he has that many houses on different planet that are exactly the same.
56:00
Like the fact that we we since the last move we saw, we
56:05
saw them sort of phase a little bit and then it's like, oh,
56:07
ship, Merlin's gone. I was like, I thought the planet was a
56:09
ship because they use that same effect when they jump out of hyperspace. No,
56:14
it might prepare you for extremely disilurution. My interpretation is because they said
56:19
it was via the gate. So the date the gate dialed, all of
56:23
the people were beamed through the event horizon to a new planet that was identical
56:29
inside the cave but had different ecosystems outside. But obviously they're all connected by
56:32
bluetooth, so that that Daniel Slash Merlin could continue his work because obviously he
56:37
was creating part of it on this planet they have to go to Nix.
56:39
Oh. Is that why it was he couldn't touch it or was that just
56:43
a another He never would if they're on the right planet. No, that's
56:49
the same Gral never existed because if the same he destroyed it, if she
56:52
destroyed it, Morgan destroyed it but left it in Merlin's Yeah, correct,
56:55
because if the Sangral existed, the ancients would step in. Interesting. Yeah,
57:02
and that's I think with when you were saying before about bar, why
57:05
did he need a nutbar? You know, a little protein after three days,
57:09
I didn't know whether to feel somewhat similar about when they were on the
57:13
snow planet and he's out there going, it is crazy to think that I
57:15
have to work like this. You know, I need to go inside and
57:19
the conditions I'm feeling cood, we go inside and warm up a little bit.
57:22
I can't fill my hands. Come man, and it's like, really
57:23
like, he's just a guy at this point, I know, you just
57:27
a guy, Like even like the water him down, they give him sustenance
57:30
or something, and such a good bag and heal them. Like what am
57:34
I am? I stretching by assuming you wouldn't feel the temperature shift the exact
57:37
same way that these humans are, Like, is it too much to expect
57:40
that you would just sit there going I'm personally fine with this. Yeah,
57:44
and he would be Yeah, because how many times did Teg say my symbil
57:49
helped me through that? Yeah? So many times? Yeah, and he
57:52
only had a baby primter that wasn't even planted. He sat in his belly,
57:54
Yeah, and he didn't like it, didn't want it in there.
57:57
He knew that he needed it, whereas you know, obviously is that so
58:00
he wants he is given that. You guys aren't the biggest Vala fans.
58:07
How did you feel about the hair drawing moment to put something into the into
58:13
the No? I like that sort of ship like that was a longer bit.
58:15
Apparently they did a couple of takes uff but it's like she put a
58:20
hair straightener in, but no, I took the hair straightener out and put
58:22
like a stuffed giraffe in there. No, no, no, and then
58:25
Daniel took the hair draw off and threw it in. It's just like just
58:30
it's like, Okay, it's dumb because it's why would she have it?
58:32
But it's even beyond why would she have it? Because they're going to a
58:35
planet where it needs to be plugged into power, like just so little levels
58:38
along that that. What else would Valla pack you know exactly? That's just
58:43
it's like tis backpack. We know he's full of candle rates. But I'm
58:49
pretty sure they didn't even like did she even have a zat I don't even
58:52
think they let her have a we probably not well used to have, but
58:55
they took it off. It's weird how I'm watch it. I don't know
59:00
what peak or valley we hit the last couple of episodes where I don't I
59:06
don't even three SG one episodes ago. I might be watching this going,
59:10
oh, oh god, she pisses me off. I'm waiting for her to
59:13
piss me off now I actually have. I didn't feel that in this Quest
59:15
episode double at all. So I don't know whether we hit something in her
59:19
little memory loss episode a couple back or Company of Thieves where maybe we hit
59:23
a high or a low something in there that's almost like cleansed it a little
59:28
bit. And now I'm just watching her as well. She's established fantastic moments,
59:34
but yeah, sometimes she just goes a little. Yeah. I'm sure
59:37
there'll be some to come. But I feel like even this double, like
59:38
well we had more time in one particular story, they still didn't allow her
59:44
to be completely stupid, or to do something entirely selfish, or to make
59:47
a stupid to see whatever it might have been. I don't know, but
59:51
I think everyone has their own like Varla filter. It's like they can take
59:52
it up to a certain point. Anything over that is like and it's like
59:57
everyone's level is different. Yeah, yeah, a couple of little trivia things
1:00:01
so I don't get in trouble for it. No general laundry in this episode.
1:00:07
Good, much like Brendan didn't want. We were in last week's episode
1:00:12
the whole thing at the start with Marina backer in with her with Andrew's eyes
1:00:15
changing color hot with her eyes, with her eyes not being yellow or read
1:00:21
anymore. Because Marina Bacheran couldn't wear the contacts while they were outside. When
1:00:25
she wore them in previous episodes that she was in it was obviously on set.
1:00:30
They were out on location for this with all the dust and ship she
1:00:31
couldn't. They aggravated her eyes. They got rid of those and on a
1:00:40
scale of one, but at least stop it. At least she called it
1:00:45
a dial. She calls it a dial device, the DHD. There is
1:00:51
no global name for it. Also, her tits on a scale of one
1:01:00
to ten, How much do you all think? Ten? Daniel plump?
1:01:06
Daniel? Sorry, what I mean? I should I should have just let
1:01:08
me trap it up on a scale of one. We're living in a post
1:01:14
Sydney. My algorithms have been stuffed the last couple of weeks. I'll watched
1:01:19
one video, one video Sidney swinging renee wrap. That's what I'm waiting for
1:01:23
is the combination of that. On a scale of one to ten, how
1:01:27
hard do you think Daniel cried went all those when all those books got burnt.
1:01:31
Yeah, I was surprised he stood there and watched, right, he
1:01:34
would have been crying into his corn flakes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:01:38
that was I even found that bit rough. It's like, come on,
1:01:43
mate, I was going to read them. So okay, well, okay
1:01:45
with old mate. Was as simple as old mate. Librarian who had the
1:01:50
book was him up until the moment where he busts through the door. And
1:01:52
yeah, so that that was from then on it was obviously her. Obviously.
1:01:58
I never understood it stuck. It was obviously her from that point because
1:02:00
that person never left their site until revealed. But yeah, the first scene,
1:02:06
you can't have the map, It was the It was always that guy.
1:02:08
What did she do to that guy? Killed him? Where is he's
1:02:12
dead in the walls? Remember remember that, mate? Well and we know
1:02:17
from was it camlought and Amazon? Remember there was avalon. There was that
1:02:22
skeleton up on the wall. Remember that we couldn't quite see. I feel
1:02:24
like he would have maybe come around a little bit, you know for her,
1:02:28
like he you know, they were all like Merlin. She could have
1:02:30
just come in and said some other little magic, I mean to kill one
1:02:34
again, do whatever you want, saying all bad? Is it death?
1:02:40
But you know I did see a creepy fan theory about Star Wars and you
1:02:44
hope the other day, Yeah, when the Millennium Falcon lends on the Death
1:02:50
Star and those two Stormtroopers go up and Luke and Hahn have to take their
1:02:55
things. Those blasters weren't said on stunt, you didn't hear then you heard
1:03:00
the blast sound. Yeah they're dead. So as the Millennium Falcon was escaping
1:03:05
the Death Star, there were two naked dead storm Troopers on the Millium Falcon
1:03:09
hidden in the yep in the and then good later as if like in the
1:03:16
sequels, you know how like BB eight and Ray were in that they found
1:03:22
they found a couple of skeletons, Yeah, to get in hide and what
1:03:27
the holy the spooning spooning skeletons to get to Yavin four And they just get
1:03:34
off and someone goes into cleans just too just naked blokes and have just been
1:03:37
like thrashed around while they were trying to escape the place, like, oh
1:03:42
my god, that chew buck is hard. Limbs actually ripped off. The
1:03:46
legends are true. You know. Last thing I thought when they went to
1:03:52
get the sun Gral and there was that pedestal with the long bridge to the
1:03:57
center of them, I was like, we're going to see Jane's I was
1:04:02
like so disappointed. Yeah, that's what because it was almost everything, because
1:04:09
there's so many flashbacks. Even Daniel turned into Oma Desala and lightning bolted everyone
1:04:15
low like back in the day, that was cool. But there's so many
1:04:18
flashbacks to old sques. You one, that's why I like this episode.
1:04:21
Yeah, yeah, it's good. I enjoy it. And two wonder a
1:04:30
D seven if only we will low cut tops, then you'd be a fan.
1:04:34
Probably see she's open minded. Definitely changed my mind about it. Hundred
1:04:43
and forty seven. That is, I'll get into gate wrapping up like the
1:04:45
two parters, so we're sort of almost putting a little we're just pressing pause
1:04:49
for a secon. Well, you know, I hate the phrase, yeah
1:04:53
mid season finale. This was the mid season finale. Well, I mean
1:04:57
that makes sense, doesn't it. Episode eleven. Yeah, four months between
1:05:00
the quests. The Quest Part one was September of two thousand and six,
1:05:04
the Quest Part two was January of two thousand and seven. I mean we
1:05:08
would have remember in Australia the Dragon, we would have got it in like
1:05:13
August, and then the next weekend we would have got episode twelve line Sand.
1:05:17
We would have had no weight. We just had eight months to get
1:05:20
anything. So our next episodes will technically be the two parter mid season finale
1:05:28
for Atlantis, the Return parts one and two, So we might pause in
1:05:30
between because I think we're due to empty the mail bag. Christ. It
1:05:36
actually feels like a long time because we're doing double seasons and normally we just
1:05:41
get to the mail Bag once a season. Technically, at this point,
1:05:44
we've done twenty episodes since our last rank. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:05:47
so I think it's time to empty the mail bag. I might do
1:05:50
that next week. He stick around guys too. It will be good obviously,
1:05:55
what I mean think about fantoms last week, you guys wrote a good
1:06:00
ship. Otherwise it is gonna be crap. It's up to you, guys,
1:06:02
So if the mail Bag sucks, it's all on you. Yeah,
1:06:04
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