Latest / Early Edition with Ryan Bridge / Full Show Podcast: 28 July 2026
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight. Andrew Dickets on
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- 0:09Speaker 1: moving news talks.
- 0:10Speaker 2: They'd be as.
- 0:11Speaker 3: Gavarded to you and welcome to the program, Thank you
- 0:13Speaker 3: for choosing us. Coming up over the next hour, the
- 0:16Speaker 3: Greens want acc cover for professional firefighters with cancer, so
- 0:20Speaker 3: what's the argument. We'll have that story for you mixed.
- 0:23Speaker 3: A surprising report says advertising on TikTok supports ten thousand
- 0:27Speaker 3: Kiwi jobs and adds one point two billion dollars to
- 0:30Speaker 3: the New Zealand economy.
- 0:31Speaker 4: Who knew?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Will have that story for you. And the latest report
- 0:34Speaker 3: on our water quality is out and it's not good
- 0:36Speaker 3: reading the challenges before us. Just before six o'clock today,
- 0:40Speaker 3: Donald Tomato out of Australia and correspondence from Ride Around
- 0:43Speaker 3: New Zealand and News as it breaks and you can
- 0:45Speaker 3: have your say on the text. Ninety two ninety two
- 0:48Speaker 3: is the number.
- 0:50Speaker 1: The agenda.
- 0:51Speaker 3: So it's Tuesday, the twenty eighth of July. Wildfires are
- 0:55Speaker 3: still tearing through Europe.
- 0:57Speaker 5: I've never seen a fire discintence before, and not once
- 1:00Speaker 5: so close to where I live.
- 1:02Speaker 3: I've seen major fires, but on televisions. Hundreds of thousands
- 1:06Speaker 3: have been evacuated in France and Spain. French President Emmanuel
- 1:09Speaker 3: Macron is holding or has held an emergency cabinet meeting,
- 1:13Speaker 3: and here is the local mayor of Les Capelaire in France.
- 1:17Speaker 2: The respite is only temporary, he argues. Weather conditions over
- 1:21Speaker 2: the coming hours are unfavorable, so the fire could flare
- 1:25Speaker 2: up again.
- 1:26Speaker 3: So Zelenski has been in the United Kingdom. He's me
- 1:30Speaker 3: meeting with the new King of the Northern upm Andy Burnham,
- 1:32Speaker 3: and Burnham's reaffirmed Britain's backing for Ukraine, with Downing Street
- 1:36Speaker 3: saying the partnership remains as strong as ever.
- 1:39Speaker 6: That was a big item of discussion today, the whole
- 1:42Speaker 6: question of anti ballistic missiles and the supply of them
- 1:46Speaker 6: to Ukraine, particularly in terms of Ukraine protecting critical national
- 1:51Speaker 6: infrastructure during the winters that can be very harsh in Ukraine.
- 1:55Speaker 6: So we talked at length about that issue. We've taken
- 1:58Speaker 6: away some things that we will now follow up with
- 2:01Speaker 6: our partners.
- 2:03Speaker 3: And finally, we have some sad news for Carlie Simon fans.
- 2:16Speaker 3: She's not dead, but she has revealed she's been diagnosed
- 2:20Speaker 3: with Parkinson's. She's eighty three years old. She says she's
- 2:23Speaker 3: now letting to live with the disease, and she's described
- 2:26Speaker 3: the fight as unpredictable.
- 2:30Speaker 1: The News you Need this morning and the in depth
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- 2:40Speaker 3: B nine after five with the wildfires in Europe. Can't
- 2:43Speaker 3: just say. My boy is in Sterling in Scotland right
- 2:45Speaker 3: now and a bit of a tour and he reported
- 2:47Speaker 3: to me yesterday that they've got wildfires in Scotland right now,
- 2:51Speaker 3: so it's everywhere now. I was reading an international story
- 2:54Speaker 3: yesterday where international investors are asking where Japan's prime minister
- 3:00Speaker 3: find four trillion dollars of extra cash that she wants
- 3:04Speaker 3: to invest in seventeen industrial sectors by twenty forty. That's right,
- 3:08Speaker 3: I said, four trillion New Zealand dollars in catch and
- 3:14Speaker 3: such as the scale of spending by the Prime Minister,
- 3:17Speaker 3: Sinai Takeichi and the coalition government that many in her
- 3:21Speaker 3: own party fear she's about to buy up the Japanese economy.
- 3:25Speaker 3: Now they worry that she's going to trigger a Liz
- 3:27Speaker 3: Trust style economic shock, and nerves are jangling in financial
- 3:31Speaker 3: markets as well, where investors are st done by the
- 3:33Speaker 3: plans of this usually sober Japanese government to rewrite previous
- 3:38Speaker 3: budget rules and embark on these wide ranging and unfunded
- 3:42Speaker 3: Can I say shopping spree. It's a hell of a punt.
- 3:45Speaker 3: But then again, Japan has been stuck in stagflation ever
- 3:49Speaker 3: since the financial crisis of the nineties, so something had
- 3:52Speaker 3: to be done. And I thought about us while I
- 3:54Speaker 3: was reading this. Ever since the COVID level spend up,
- 3:57Speaker 3: government spending has been a dirty wind in this country's politics,
- 4:01Speaker 3: and that is true when it's wasteful or ineffective, but
- 4:05Speaker 3: that's not to say that government spending per se is
- 4:07Speaker 3: all bad. In New Zealand, government activity makes up thirty
- 4:10Speaker 3: percent of the economy, and we've found that when government
- 4:13Speaker 3: spending dries up, there can be a hell of a
- 4:16Speaker 3: conniption running right through the entire nation and its economy.
- 4:19Speaker 3: So anyway, I was thinking, we're heading towards an election,
- 4:22Speaker 3: and now being thrown at us are all sorts of
- 4:25Speaker 3: government spending ideas left, right and center, and so it's
- 4:30Speaker 3: our job to keep an eye out for the wasteful ideas,
- 4:33Speaker 3: the ideas that won't work. But then again, I also
- 4:36Speaker 3: think we shouldn't be afraid of plans that could do
- 4:39Speaker 3: us out, you know, some good in the long run.
- 4:42Speaker 3: Whether Japan's got it right, I don't know. We'll wait
- 4:44Speaker 3: and see. It's eleven minutes after five.
- 4:47Speaker 1: News Talk said, be you may remember.
- 4:49Speaker 3: From the nine to eleven and the firefighters there who
- 4:52Speaker 3: were so brave and ran into the building that many
- 4:55Speaker 3: of them suffer from terrible, terrible diseases after the fact,
- 4:58Speaker 3: coming out ten twenty f years later. So fires can
- 5:02Speaker 3: cause cancer, but at the moment, if you're a firefighter
- 5:06Speaker 3: in New Zealand, you have to prove the exact fire
- 5:08Speaker 3: that can give you this cancer. The Greens want a
- 5:11Speaker 3: change to this. They want automatic acc cover. We'll explain
- 5:14Speaker 3: it next here on News Talks Here be it is
- 5:16Speaker 3: now twelve after.
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- 5:36Speaker 3: It's five fourteen. So the Greens want firefighters to have
- 5:38Speaker 3: automatic acc cover where they get cancer from inhaling carcinogens.
- 5:43Speaker 3: So they put a member's bill in the tym, and
- 5:45Speaker 3: the Firefighters Union says they'll keep fighting it until it
- 5:48Speaker 3: becomes law. Watty Watson is the National Secretary of the
- 5:52Speaker 3: Professional Firefighters Union and joins me. Now, Hello, Whatti, good morning.
- 5:57Speaker 7: Sorry I've got a cold this morning, so not a
- 5:58Speaker 7: great voice for your listeners.
- 6:00Speaker 3: That's okay. So at the moment, what happens if a
- 6:02Speaker 3: firefighter gets a bit of cancer and wants some a suses.
- 6:06Speaker 7: Yeah, what happens now is a long drawn process. The
- 6:10Speaker 7: firefighter has to do research, try and document the types
- 6:14Speaker 7: of fires that they've attended, the numbers of fires that
- 6:17Speaker 7: have attended, when they undertook training, et cetera, to try
- 6:22Speaker 7: and demonstrate when they were exposed to the carthogens. Normally
- 6:27Speaker 7: those cases are rejected and so then we have to
- 6:30Speaker 7: go through a review and sometimes an appeal process.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Why are they rejected?
- 6:36Speaker 7: Oh I see see or finds reject it. It just
- 6:39Speaker 7: seems to be the issue. And ser a firefighters Union,
- 6:43Speaker 7: which is fully funded by a membership, we spend a
- 6:46Speaker 7: lot of money fighting those and most of the time,
- 6:50Speaker 7: at the end of a legal process, we do get covered.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Firefighters learned from this as time has gone on, and
- 6:56Speaker 3: do they keep a log of every fire and every
- 6:58Speaker 3: possible carstroogenic event.
- 7:01Speaker 7: No, and it's not actually necessary. What the research shows
- 7:05Speaker 7: us is that it's accumulation of exposures. Firefighters can never
- 7:10Speaker 7: be fully protected because the uniform that they wear when
- 7:14Speaker 7: they're fighting fires, that yellow uniform that everyone sees, has
- 7:17Speaker 7: to be able to breathe, otherwise they would die from
- 7:20Speaker 7: metabolic heat build up, and so they absorb it through
- 7:23Speaker 7: the smoke, through the skin and then it's just accumulation
- 7:27Speaker 7: of that the general results in the cancer.
- 7:30Speaker 3: So how common is it for a firefighter to develop cancer?
- 7:33Speaker 3: Does it exceed normal levels?
- 7:36Speaker 4: Well?
- 7:36Speaker 7: Absolutely, depending on the cancer. There's a huge amount of
- 7:39Speaker 7: research around the world and studies into it's one of
- 7:43Speaker 7: the most studied occupations for occupation cancer. Sometimes it's five
- 7:48Speaker 7: to ten, even one hundred times more than the general
- 7:50Speaker 7: population to get the particular canse.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Okay, So this proposal is in the ten If parties
- 7:57Speaker 3: get on board, this could get through the House before
- 7:59Speaker 3: the election. And however, you don't think they're going to
- 8:01Speaker 3: get support. You're not going to get support. Why do
- 8:03Speaker 3: you think that Oh no, I do think good support.
- 8:06Speaker 7: We're going to work hard to get that support. We're
- 8:08Speaker 7: calling on all parties to put their politicing aside, the
- 8:12Speaker 7: partisan politics aside.
- 8:14Speaker 4: I don't know why anyone.
- 8:15Speaker 7: Would not support the spill. The Australians that have it
- 8:19Speaker 7: every where, The Canadians have very similar the Americans. It's
- 8:23Speaker 7: just gone through a more way. It's only for New
- 8:26Speaker 7: Zealand firefighters have that access to.
- 8:29Speaker 3: Well, Waddy, look after yourself, get well, have some lemon,
- 8:31Speaker 3: honey and ginger. And thank you so much for your time,
- 8:34Speaker 3: Wattie Watson, who is the New Zealand Professional Fire Union's
- 8:37Speaker 3: National secretary. By the way, these guys have been fighting
- 8:39Speaker 3: this for fifteen years and they say they'll never give up.
- 8:43Speaker 6: Now.
- 8:44Speaker 3: Look, I was really surprised this morning to come into
- 8:45Speaker 3: work and find out that TikTok, which of course I'm
- 8:48Speaker 3: not on. Of course I'm not of the age, am I.
- 8:51Speaker 3: TikTok is apparently helping boost New Zealand's DDP and I
- 8:55Speaker 3: thought they were just a foreign owned firm owned by
- 8:57Speaker 3: China who were stealing all their money, all their advertise
- 9:00Speaker 3: and repatriating it back to China. But apparently they do good,
- 9:03Speaker 3: and we'll talk more about this.
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- 9:22Speaker 3: We're talking to Donnad Tomayo in about half an hour's
- 9:24Speaker 3: time about an appeals court which has ruled that Pauline
- 9:27Speaker 3: Hansen racially discriminated against another senator. But hey, guess what
- 9:31Speaker 3: Australia is having the same debate as us. The nation's
- 9:35Speaker 3: sprawling suburbs of single story homes would be transformed under
- 9:39Speaker 3: a plan that's just come out from the Productivity Commission.
- 9:42Speaker 3: They want to make the property market affordable by putting
- 9:44Speaker 3: three story developments everywhere at high rise apartment blocks built
- 9:49Speaker 3: near train, tram and bus stations. Sound familiar. Five twenty
- 9:53Speaker 3: so TikTok advertising apparently is boosting New Zealand's GDP by
- 9:57Speaker 3: one point two billion dollars. The report came initial from well,
- 10:00Speaker 3: of course, TikTok, but it's being supported by the guys
- 10:02Speaker 3: at Informetrics and brad Olsoen and they say advertising on
- 10:06Speaker 3: this social media platform is now an integral part of
- 10:08Speaker 3: New Zealand business and Lawrence Kerry is the founder of
- 10:11Speaker 3: local TikTok advertising agents Squid Group and joins me. Now,
- 10:15Speaker 3: hello Lawrence, Hey, how are you going good? How big
- 10:19Speaker 3: is TikTok in New Zealand?
- 10:22Speaker 8: TikTok's definitely are major platform now across both organic and paid.
- 10:28Speaker 8: But yeah, I definitely say it's integral to a lot
- 10:32Speaker 8: of businesses now and the main strategies that they kind
- 10:35Speaker 8: of want to grow with.
- 10:36Speaker 3: What surprised me three hundred and nine thousand key week
- 10:40Speaker 3: businesses using the platform each month to promote themselves, connect
- 10:43Speaker 3: with customers and support their livelihoods. That's a lot of companies.
- 10:48Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think some businesses, like anythink they choose
- 10:52Speaker 8: different strategies to kind of grow. And if you do
- 10:55Speaker 8: it right on TikTok you can do a lot with
- 10:59Speaker 8: just are actually.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Doing any paid media. But also.
- 11:04Speaker 8: It's an easy way into social media if you're just
- 11:07Speaker 8: producing lots and lots of content.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Yes, the warehouse has done it and they'd been a
- 11:10Speaker 3: great success. So tell me how do you make a
- 11:12Speaker 3: success of TikTok advertising. This feels a little bit like
- 11:16Speaker 3: the Turkey praying for Christmas, because I'd rather you actually
- 11:19Speaker 3: did some hand some radio. But there we go. How
- 11:20Speaker 3: do you make a success out of TikTok advertising?
- 11:23Speaker 8: I think the main thing is not just rehashing the
- 11:28Speaker 8: same content you use on every other platform. So, like
- 11:32Speaker 8: any sort of advertising, you have to be specific around
- 11:35Speaker 8: how you're advertising. So when advertising on TikTok, you need
- 11:39Speaker 8: to make sure that you advertise how the people using
- 11:42Speaker 8: the platform want to see the platform. So if you're
- 11:45Speaker 8: advertising on Facebook, for example, you produce certain types of content,
- 11:50Speaker 8: but for TikTok, it's a very specific style and quantity
- 11:54Speaker 8: of content that you need to do. And it's all
- 11:56Speaker 8: about testing.
- 11:57Speaker 3: And you're going to shoot yourself in the foot if
- 11:59Speaker 3: you basically put a standard TV ad on TikTok, everyone's
- 12:02Speaker 3: going to go. You need to have compelling content one
- 12:05Speaker 3: hundred percent.
- 12:06Speaker 8: Yeah, and there needs to be that same thing exactly
- 12:09Speaker 8: like radio and billboards and any other sort of advertising.
- 12:13Speaker 8: You kind of need to think about what the hookers
- 12:17Speaker 8: tell the story and then keep them engaged. But that
- 12:20Speaker 8: is obviously different for every single platform you use.
- 12:22Speaker 3: So ten thousand jobs and apparently one point two billion
- 12:26Speaker 3: dollars worth of money flowing around the economy because of
- 12:28Speaker 3: these jobs and they're all using the TikTok. Is this
- 12:32Speaker 3: enough of a benefit to make up for the fact
- 12:34Speaker 3: that the profits are repatriated overseas.
- 12:39Speaker 8: I think there's no doubt that TikTok creates a lot
- 12:42Speaker 8: of jobs in New Zealand, whether it's creators agencies like
- 12:46Speaker 8: us who are helping businesses all around New Zealand grow.
- 12:50Speaker 8: Without the platform, you just don't have the opportunities for
- 12:54Speaker 8: certain businesses to reach people. And when you look at hospitality,
- 12:59Speaker 8: it's without a doubt one of the easiest ways of
- 13:02Speaker 8: people now to research like places to eat and things
- 13:05Speaker 8: to do and all of that kind of thing. But
- 13:07Speaker 8: then alongside that it's a massive research platform, So people
- 13:12Speaker 8: looking at businesses to start how to start a business,
- 13:18Speaker 8: you can think about like literally anything that you want
- 13:21Speaker 8: to and then I guarantee there'll be a rabbit hole
- 13:25Speaker 8: that you can go down on TikTok and it will
- 13:27Speaker 8: be able to give you a lot of information. So
- 13:31Speaker 8: when you think about research and all that, you can
- 13:33Speaker 8: actually obviously advertise that niche quite heavily, okay, and it's
- 13:37Speaker 8: really really powerful.
- 13:39Speaker 3: All I think you for your timelines carry who is
- 13:41Speaker 3: from Squid Group and they do a lot of TikTok advertising. No,
- 13:45Speaker 3: I don't have the app. You don't have the app.
- 13:46Speaker 3: We don't understand the app. We're not of the age.
- 13:49Speaker 3: But apparently, apparently if you're of the age, you're in
- 13:53Speaker 3: fascinating figures. Fifty four percent of the people using TikTok
- 13:57Speaker 3: are of Maldi, Pacific Island and Asian decay. Most of
- 14:00Speaker 3: the people using TikTok are a little bit younger than
- 14:02Speaker 3: you and I. But three hundred and nine thousand businesses
- 14:06Speaker 3: use it and they supports ten thousand jobs and one
- 14:09Speaker 3: point two billion dollars worth of economic activity. They say
- 14:12Speaker 3: it's five twenty four. News stalks have been all right
- 14:17Speaker 3: the lead story on the newsaut to night. Christopher likes
- 14:18Speaker 3: some ruling out working with the Opportunity Party otherwise known
- 14:21Speaker 3: as TOP. I don't see how a four percent party
- 14:24Speaker 3: deserves to be the lead story. But here we are now.
- 14:27Speaker 3: There was some speculation that Chris Luxton's decision was made
- 14:31Speaker 3: on the fly. It might not have been fully thought out.
- 14:33Speaker 3: He didn't seem so certain about himself as he walked
- 14:36Speaker 3: away from the press cameras, or at least that's Kreen
- 14:38Speaker 3: mcinnoltics perception of it. But how do I feel It
- 14:43Speaker 3: is no surprise that the National Party don't want to
- 14:46Speaker 3: get into bed with Top because Top is not a
- 14:48Speaker 3: natural bedfellow of the right. But there's a perception about
- 14:51Speaker 3: that somehow they're what they call teals, a blue green
- 14:55Speaker 3: center party. They are certainly not that. Actually, if you
- 14:58Speaker 3: look at them, and I wonder how many people have
- 14:59Speaker 3: actually looked at them before saying, oh, I like to
- 15:01Speaker 3: vote for them. If you look at them, their policies
- 15:03Speaker 3: are quite radical. They're into the universal benefit, they're into
- 15:06Speaker 3: land taxes. And remember National as a party that has
- 15:10Speaker 3: simplified their stance down to no spending and no taxes
- 15:15Speaker 3: and benefit control. So the universal benefit and land taxes
- 15:18Speaker 3: are going to give them the jips. And behind the
- 15:22Speaker 3: scenes Top has some interesting staff. They've got names like
- 15:24Speaker 3: Ian Lee's Galloway, remember him, Labor Prime ministery union guy.
- 15:28Speaker 3: He is the general manager. His business partner is Tony
- 15:32Speaker 3: Grace Chris Hipkins partner. Their number three candidate is Kyler
- 15:35Speaker 3: kingdom Bed who was one of the authors of the
- 15:37Speaker 3: hyper Poor Report that the Right hate so much. She,
- 15:41Speaker 3: in turn has worked with James Show, the ousted leader
- 15:44Speaker 3: from the Green Party. They work together at the Worldwide
- 15:46Speaker 3: Fund for Nature. Many speculate it's a left wing party
- 15:50Speaker 3: in disguise, and I don't disagree. So maybe Christopher Luxen
- 15:54Speaker 3: was right to follow his gut. But at the same time,
- 15:57Speaker 3: this statement by Christopher Luxon validates the chances of a
- 16:00Speaker 3: party who frankly, have never cracked the threshold and are
- 16:03Speaker 3: only commanding attention right now because they're new and they're
- 16:06Speaker 3: not part of the old elite, and they're trending upwards
- 16:08Speaker 3: and people are sick and tired of the old tried
- 16:10Speaker 3: and true because the old triede and true hasn't turned
- 16:13Speaker 3: out to be very true for them. But personally, I
- 16:15Speaker 3: wouldn't give them the time of day. They've got a
- 16:18Speaker 3: long way to go before they approve. Let me say
- 16:21Speaker 3: this again, They've got a long way to go before
- 16:23Speaker 3: they prove they're here for the long haul and that
- 16:27Speaker 3: they really have something to offer. So can't the farm
- 16:31Speaker 3: news talk said be five twenty eight. Couple of sad
- 16:35Speaker 3: losses today. I talk more about that after the news.
- 16:38Speaker 6: Now.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Our first text through for the firefighters, Come on, acc
- 16:42Speaker 3: don't be tosses. It does seem a little unfair, doesn't
- 16:45Speaker 3: it that they turned them down? But ACC has no
- 16:48Speaker 3: money and they're in the process that they're in the
- 16:50Speaker 3: business of turning people down if they can. And when
- 16:53Speaker 3: I asked the question, do you keep a log of
- 16:55Speaker 3: all the fires who've been to that possibly are carcinogenic,
- 16:57Speaker 3: they said no. If you've been fighting this for fifteen years,
- 17:00Speaker 3: you might want to have said to your members of
- 17:03Speaker 3: your union, keep a log of everything, because you might
- 17:06Speaker 3: need it a bit later on so you can actually
- 17:08Speaker 3: say the date. But certainly, if you've suffered from a
- 17:10Speaker 3: bit of cancer that you know you've got from a fire,
- 17:11Speaker 3: and suddenly ACC is saying prove it, it might help
- 17:15Speaker 3: if you could prove it. Anwo The text says Andrew,
- 17:18Speaker 3: I'm a listener and I have TikTok. Don't assume we're
- 17:20Speaker 3: all boomers here. I don't not have TikTok because of
- 17:25Speaker 3: an age, which I did to say before. I just
- 17:29Speaker 3: find it boring, to be honest with you. I've got
- 17:31Speaker 3: enough social media campening with the Facebook and the Instagram
- 17:34Speaker 3: and the Lincoln. I mean, how much social media do
- 17:36Speaker 3: you need? Don to Mayo on the way and our
- 17:39Speaker 3: water quality not good. That story before six.
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- 18:04Speaker 4: It'd be.
- 18:11Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program, my manager Dickinson in for
- 18:13Speaker 3: Prime Bridge. Who's doing the drive show because Heather and
- 18:16Speaker 3: Barrier on holiday. I'm here for a fortnight. By the way,
- 18:19Speaker 3: text true. Thank you for the excellent summation of the
- 18:21Speaker 3: whack jobs that are the Opportunities Party. It's all a front.
- 18:24Speaker 3: They are the looney Greens, but with their shouting and
- 18:26Speaker 3: no terrorist scarves. Good on Chris Luxon for saying no,
- 18:30Speaker 3: and somebody else says yes. Top is parading as a
- 18:32Speaker 3: centrist party, which is a lie. If the public are
- 18:34Speaker 3: dumb enough to believe it, you don't think they have
- 18:37Speaker 3: a chance. But they are nearly at five percent. So
- 18:39Speaker 3: a good call by Christopher Loxon. All right, So a
- 18:41Speaker 3: couple of sad losses over the day. Bill Oddie from
- 18:45Speaker 3: the Goodies and so Bill Oddie, I mean I remember him,
- 18:49Speaker 3: my producer does not a wonderful, funny crazy I caught
- 18:53Speaker 3: it watered down Monty Python for Kids, also Wildlife presenter,
- 18:58Speaker 3: possibly the funniest twitter in history. He's passed at the
- 19:00Speaker 3: age of eighty five. A delightful, cudly silly man and
- 19:03Speaker 3: then from the same mode as batty Old Jim Hopkins,
- 19:06Speaker 3: the man with the big red glasses, the man who
- 19:09Speaker 3: popularized Bonker's university style debating on our screens and radios.
- 19:13Speaker 3: Used to write for the soap Close to Home, which
- 19:16Speaker 3: for the young is like shortened Street, but it was
- 19:17Speaker 3: close to home and it was down in Wellington and Avalon. Anyway.
- 19:20Speaker 3: He had a science show in the eighties called Fast Forward.
- 19:23Speaker 3: He was a talkback host at Radio Avon and Radio
- 19:25Speaker 3: Pacific and he used to do bits with me here
- 19:28Speaker 3: on news Talk zeb back in the day when I
- 19:30Speaker 3: did the Sunday Show. And he was part of that
- 19:32Speaker 3: christ Church based humor factory, people like Nephel and Gadsby,
- 19:35Speaker 3: Ak Grant, Gary McCormick. And he wrote a great book
- 19:38Speaker 3: called Blokes and Sheds and he made a TV series
- 19:41Speaker 3: out of it as well. And lately he's been a
- 19:44Speaker 3: faithful servant of the White Tucky District Council, tied on
- 19:47Speaker 3: financial accountability and affordability. He's well loved. He was a
- 19:51Speaker 3: little lonely at the end old age and a Dickey
- 19:53Speaker 3: Hart got Jim at eighty But Jim Hopkins one of
- 19:55Speaker 3: New Zealand's nice and funny guys News talk zebby around
- 20:00Speaker 3: the country. We go into Otago, we go with Callum
- 20:02Speaker 3: Proctor out of Daneedin. Hella Callum Morning Andrew Bye Bye
- 20:06Speaker 3: Greg's Coffee.
- 20:08Speaker 5: Yeah, another end of an era for Danedin, that's for sure.
- 20:11Speaker 4: Lot.
- 20:11Speaker 5: This is a coffee business that's been here since eighteen
- 20:14Speaker 5: sixty two and this is its last week of production.
- 20:17Speaker 5: The production of special blend in Gregg's Instant Coffee set
- 20:20Speaker 5: to stop here this week at the factory in Fourth
- 20:23Speaker 5: Streets by the University. The owners heinz Waddi's, announced the
- 20:27Speaker 5: closure earlier this year with the other manufacturing sites in
- 20:30Speaker 5: Auckland and christ which also affected.
- 20:32Speaker 3: About three hundred jobs to go.
- 20:34Speaker 5: A spokesperson says the coffee products will stay on the
- 20:36Speaker 5: shelves until stocks run out. The company says it's focused
- 20:40Speaker 5: on supporting staff through the transition and no decision yet
- 20:44Speaker 5: made on the future of the Dunedin site.
- 20:46Speaker 3: Wow never a fan of Greg's. But at the same time,
- 20:48Speaker 3: whenever I taste it, it reminds me of my days
- 20:51Speaker 3: as a shop assistant at Hugh Writes when I was seventeen.
- 20:53Speaker 3: But that's another story. What Otago's weather today.
- 20:56Speaker 5: Callum mostly fine, high cloud develops this afternoon, light winds
- 21:00Speaker 5: Dunedin's high fifteen today.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Two Christians we go quest sure were good morning to you?
- 21:04Speaker 4: Good morning.
- 21:05Speaker 3: So what's happened with Chrastier's City Council's office.
- 21:08Speaker 9: Yeah, this started last year when engineers found some seismic
- 21:11Speaker 9: issues in the annex that joins onto the building. It's
- 21:14Speaker 9: a six story annex out the front of the building,
- 21:17Speaker 9: and that forced council meetings and staff to have to relocate.
- 21:21Speaker 9: Now council staff are being told or more council staff
- 21:24Speaker 9: are being told they need to work from home because
- 21:26Speaker 9: some earthquake strengthening work needs to ramp up at the
- 21:28Speaker 9: building and is likely to continue into next year. Upgrades
- 21:32Speaker 9: to this concrete facade, which is on Hereford Street, have
- 21:35Speaker 9: been brought forward to next month because they're so close
- 21:38Speaker 9: to the building's fire exits. Amazing they didn't know that
- 21:41Speaker 9: till now. Interim Chief Executive bid Karen says a fewer
- 21:44Speaker 9: staff will be in the building during this work in
- 21:46Speaker 9: order to meet the fire regulations, and the road will
- 21:49Speaker 9: be down to one lane while the cranes are on site.
- 21:52Speaker 9: He says residents can be assured though there won't be
- 21:54Speaker 9: any drop in council services while the work happens.
- 21:57Speaker 3: Yeah right, So how's your weather?
- 22:00Speaker 9: Start here clearing to find light ones northeasterlies. The high
- 22:03Speaker 9: will be fourteen, all right, and Willington we go next
- 22:05Speaker 9: to Good morning to you.
- 22:06Speaker 10: Good morning.
- 22:07Speaker 3: So hospital he owners are having a bit of a meeting.
- 22:10Speaker 3: What are they talking about?
- 22:11Speaker 10: Yeah, dozens of the bar restaurant owners from around the
- 22:14Speaker 10: city met yesterday to talk about how to try to
- 22:17Speaker 10: save the city's hospital scene. Is saved, may be a
- 22:20Speaker 10: bit dramatic, how to boost the city's nightlife, dining, cafe scene.
- 22:24Speaker 10: Over one hundred are expected at this thing. Self organized.
- 22:28Speaker 10: They want to present a blueprint of sorts to try
- 22:31Speaker 10: to persuade the city council to be a bit more
- 22:33Speaker 10: business friendly. Justified or not. That's the reputation it has
- 22:36Speaker 10: at the moment that it is not very business friendly. Certainly,
- 22:40Speaker 10: business rates are relatively high with the rest of the country.
- 22:43Speaker 4: It.
- 22:43Speaker 10: Courtney Plays Bar owner Greg Wilson says they want to imagine,
- 22:47Speaker 10: reimagine what the area could look like after a revamp.
- 22:50Speaker 10: Obviously the Golden Mile went too far, so back to
- 22:53Speaker 10: the drawing board, says there needs to be a more
- 22:55Speaker 10: cohesive plan that brings so called rivals back together a
- 22:59Speaker 10: bit to talk about, to talk shop, so to speak.
- 23:02Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be a good thing too. Can I say?
- 23:04Speaker 3: I was down in Wellington just the other week and
- 23:05Speaker 3: I went down Cuba Street, which by the way was
- 23:08Speaker 3: also voted by The Australian as the funkiest street in Australasia.
- 23:12Speaker 3: So you've got lots of good stuff there. How's your
- 23:13Speaker 3: wear weather?
- 23:14Speaker 10: Yeah, certainly parts of Cuba Street that are actually bucking
- 23:16Speaker 10: the trend and doing well. Frosty this morning, cold today,
- 23:19Speaker 10: fine with norther Lesahi of tan that's.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Right now my hotel. I went to Fidelito's for breakfast.
- 23:24Speaker 3: It was all lovely. Now to walk can we go
- 23:26Speaker 3: neither A ready man? A good morning this morning. So
- 23:29Speaker 3: we've got a new cemetery in about time because we're
- 23:31Speaker 3: running out of space.
- 23:32Speaker 2: Yeah, quite right, and that's why we've got this new
- 23:34Speaker 2: cemetery now it's a rural Auckland site near Kutaka. Auckland
- 23:38Speaker 2: Council obviously facing growing concerns for some time now. This
- 23:42Speaker 2: is about the capacity of South Auckland's existing cemetery network.
- 23:46Speaker 2: You know obviously the increasing demand for burial space. So
- 23:49Speaker 2: what we know now is that the council has brought
- 23:51Speaker 2: two properties this is on Linwood Road and Biddick Road
- 23:55Speaker 2: for sixteen million dollars in t he Tehihi. That's correct now.
- 23:59Speaker 2: The purchase this has been made despite objections from local
- 24:02Speaker 2: Ewie and also the Franklin Local Board. But the collective
- 24:05Speaker 2: one hundred hecta is now that's going to be developed
- 24:08Speaker 2: in a multi stage project planning starting later this year.
- 24:11Speaker 3: It's a long way out of town. And this is
- 24:13Speaker 3: the problem. We never made space in the first place.
- 24:16Speaker 3: London back in the nineteen hundreds made a whole lot
- 24:19Speaker 3: seven new graveyards all over their town because they realized
- 24:22Speaker 3: they were growing. We're building more houses, but we don't
- 24:24Speaker 3: realize that the people who own the houses eventually the
- 24:27Speaker 3: house for the eternity. There we go house.
- 24:30Speaker 2: The weather fine like wins Aucklands high today thirteen degrees.
- 24:33Speaker 3: And I thank you now still to come. There is
- 24:36Speaker 3: a new report out about our water. Remember the government
- 24:40Speaker 3: came in and said we're going to have regular reporting
- 24:43Speaker 3: about the state of the water so we know exactly
- 24:46Speaker 3: where we're at. We've got a new water authority as well.
- 24:48Speaker 3: They've got their first national report out and to be frank,
- 24:51Speaker 3: it's not good reading. To be fair, we've been atrocious
- 24:55Speaker 3: as looking after our water for decades now, decades and
- 24:58Speaker 3: decades and the cost has come home to roost. We'll
- 25:01Speaker 3: have details for that on that a bit later on
- 25:03Speaker 3: with the what in New Zealand chief executive whose job
- 25:06Speaker 3: it is to rustle this into shape. But next we've
- 25:09Speaker 3: got Donald to Mayo with the most Australian headline ever.
- 25:12Speaker 3: A man has been found guilty of trying to smuggle
- 25:15Speaker 3: lizards across state borders. It's next here on News Talks.
- 25:18Speaker 1: Herebek International correspondence with ends and eye Insurance, Peace of
- 25:23Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand.
- 25:24Speaker 3: Business fourteen to sex, Donald Maayo, who joins it out
- 25:27Speaker 3: of Australia. Donna, Hello, oh, hello to you. So Pauline
- 25:30Speaker 3: Hanson has been found guilty of racial discrimination.
- 25:34Speaker 11: Well she lost that appeal. She was up against a
- 25:38Speaker 11: court ruling that found she'd racially discriminated against Green Senator
- 25:42Speaker 11: Marine Ferruki. Now, Senator Ferruki took into Hanson to court
- 25:46Speaker 11: over this post on Twitter which is now x as
- 25:49Speaker 11: we know, and the comment was made on September twenty
- 25:52Speaker 11: twenty two. Now that's the day the queen died. Now,
- 25:56Speaker 11: Originally Senator Ferruki's post said that she cannot mourn the
- 25:59Speaker 11: leader of a race empire built on stolen lives, land
- 26:03Speaker 11: and wealth of colonized people. Well, Senator Hans's response was
- 26:08Speaker 11: to tell Senator Ferruki, rac yourselves here to pack her
- 26:12Speaker 11: bags and I hope I can say this pisce off
- 26:15Speaker 11: back to Pakistan. So she did not like that, so
- 26:19Speaker 11: she took her to court. Now, Senata Hanson's lawyers had
- 26:21Speaker 11: argued she had not breached a section of the Racial
- 26:24Speaker 11: Discrimination Act because it was protected by the Constitution. But
- 26:28Speaker 11: yesterday all three Federal Court Appeal Court judges described the
- 26:31Speaker 11: original ruling as sound and that the tweet targeted immigrants,
- 26:34Speaker 11: people of color, and Muslims. And Senator Ferruki says that
- 26:39Speaker 11: justice has prevailed and the win is for every single
- 26:42Speaker 11: person who's been told to go back where they came
- 26:45Speaker 11: from and who's been made to feel that they're belonging
- 26:47Speaker 11: to this country is conditional and it confirms as far
- 26:51Speaker 11: as she is concerned that Pauline Hansen did behave in racism,
- 26:54Speaker 11: is Lamophobia and hate and that she says that court
- 26:59Speaker 11: action was necessary as as she puts at Hay, speech
- 27:03Speaker 11: is being normalized in Australia. Now Senator Hansen has responded.
- 27:06Speaker 11: She says she's disappointed with the ruling and she has
- 27:09Speaker 11: flagged that there will be a potential High Court appeal.
- 27:12Speaker 3: So this is not over by anymore. I feel like
- 27:15Speaker 3: both women need to realize there's a time and a
- 27:17Speaker 3: place in a tone, and certainly the death of the
- 27:19Speaker 3: Queen was not the place or the time or the
- 27:22Speaker 3: tone at all. But there we have it now. I said,
- 27:24Speaker 3: this is the most Australian headline ever. A man has
- 27:26Speaker 3: been found guilty of trying to smuggle lizards across the border.
- 27:30Speaker 11: Yes, yes, this twenty eight year old thought he was clever,
- 27:34Speaker 11: but the Fed's got him. So he's been fined about
- 27:37Speaker 11: thirty thousand dollars or so. He tried to smuggle these
- 27:40Speaker 11: reptiles out of Western Australia, but he killed almost all
- 27:43Speaker 11: of the animals, so sad so he was found to
- 27:46Speaker 11: have exposed these reptiles to cruel and inhumane treatment. Four
- 27:51Speaker 11: of the animals died. A further fifty one had to
- 27:54Speaker 11: be euthanized. He was sending parcels from Perth Airport and
- 27:59Speaker 11: these animals were in everything from bobtail lizards or Nate
- 28:03Speaker 11: crevis dragons, thorny devils, the western blue tongue lizards and geckos.
- 28:08Speaker 11: And isn't it lovely though that they actually got to
- 28:11Speaker 11: save ten of these reptiles who were rehomed, but estimated
- 28:15Speaker 11: black market value up to one point three million dollars.
- 28:19Speaker 3: And the best part of that story is who just
- 28:20Speaker 3: told us a whole lot of names of really great
- 28:22Speaker 3: named lizards?
- 28:23Speaker 4: But there we go.
- 28:24Speaker 3: No, thank you so much, Dona Tomoryo. It's eleven to
- 28:26Speaker 3: six sib all right. The Water Services Authority's very first
- 28:31Speaker 3: national report is out. It's pretty grim reading, to be fair.
- 28:35Speaker 3: On average, there are thirty one wastewater overflows a day.
- 28:38Speaker 3: Fifteen percent of pipes are in poor shape. There's more
- 28:40Speaker 3: trouble ahead. Nearly half of drinking water consents need renewing.
- 28:44Speaker 3: In the next day, some have already expired, not to
- 28:46Speaker 3: mention the fact that pipes and the water are not
- 28:48Speaker 3: in good condition. Jillian Blythe is the Water New Zealand
- 28:51Speaker 3: Chief executive in charge of monitoring this and telling us
- 28:54Speaker 3: of the problems, and joins us out.
- 28:55Speaker 4: Jillian, Hello, good morning, Andrew. How are you.
- 28:58Speaker 3: I'm very well. This is not at all surprising to me,
- 29:02Speaker 3: but it's terribly disappointing, isn't it.
- 29:06Speaker 4: This report highlights, you know, in black and white, the
- 29:10Speaker 4: information that people in the sector have known for a
- 29:12Speaker 4: long time that we need to continue to invest in
- 29:14Speaker 4: our water infrastructure.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Okay, so you were formed to monitor it, but also
- 29:19Speaker 3: to sound the warnings. Do you feel that we will
- 29:22Speaker 3: be investing in our infrastructure the way we haven't for
- 29:24Speaker 3: the past thirty years?
- 29:26Speaker 4: So just perhaps if I hold you there born in
- 29:28Speaker 4: New Zealand. We're in an industry association, so we've got
- 29:31Speaker 4: members from across the supply chain, so we're not being
- 29:34Speaker 4: formed to monitor it, but we have members who are
- 29:37Speaker 4: passionate about working in the water sector and making a
- 29:39Speaker 4: difference for everyday New Zealand, every day New Zealanders, every day.
- 29:43Speaker 4: So do I think we need to invest? Absolutely? I
- 29:47Speaker 4: think one of the things that this report highlights to
- 29:50Speaker 4: me is that we've known we've needed to address our
- 29:54Speaker 4: wasteborder contents because there's been there's a bow wave of
- 29:58Speaker 4: contents requiring renewal in the next decade. But what this
- 30:02Speaker 4: is highlighted is that we've got a similar issue in
- 30:05Speaker 4: terms of our drinking water consents. Now it's sorry, carry on, Look,
- 30:11Speaker 4: it's absolutely vital that we ensure that the source water,
- 30:15Speaker 4: which is what's going into those treatment plants to make
- 30:17Speaker 4: sure that you and I can drink safe drinking water
- 30:19Speaker 4: every day, is protected. And as we are going through
- 30:24Speaker 4: that consenting process, we need to make sure that the
- 30:27Speaker 4: regulatory environment is going to achieve that because if we
- 30:30Speaker 4: end up with some form of contamination in our source water,
- 30:34Speaker 4: then that's going to be obviously a lot more expensive
- 30:35Speaker 4: to fix than if we would this report.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Basically, we have treatment plants that are operating basically on
- 30:41Speaker 3: expired consents. They're old, and they've fallen apart and they're
- 30:43Speaker 3: still working, but they've got expired consents. So we really
- 30:46Speaker 3: need to give a riggerl on, don't we We do.
- 30:49Speaker 4: We need to be able to make sure that we
- 30:52Speaker 4: are putting the investment in the areas where we need
- 30:55Speaker 4: to to fix those plant or those types that are
- 31:00Speaker 4: you need our own poor conditions. But we also need
- 31:03Speaker 4: to make sure that the reguatory environment is fit for purpose.
- 31:06Speaker 4: So obviously with the new Natural Environment and Planning bills
- 31:11Speaker 4: that are going through the House at the moment, we
- 31:13Speaker 4: need to be we're looking at those, but also looking
- 31:15Speaker 4: at whether the instrument, the regulatory instruments, like the National
- 31:19Speaker 4: Policy Statement for Infrastructure, whether that works for the water sector.
- 31:23Speaker 4: Because if it doesn't, this is the right this is
- 31:25Speaker 4: the time to fix it, to make sure that we
- 31:26Speaker 4: can get resource contents at work.
- 31:28Speaker 3: But the other thing, of course, we had three waters
- 31:30Speaker 3: proposed for a while, which got shot really because of
- 31:32Speaker 3: the co governance. We've got now local Water done Well,
- 31:35Speaker 3: which is kind of the same as three waters, though
- 31:37Speaker 3: it puts the onus on councils to do it voluntarily.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Can local Water done well councils getting together and to
- 31:46Speaker 3: raise money to actually attack these problems? Can it fix
- 31:50Speaker 3: the problems that this report actually highlights.
- 31:53Speaker 4: I think one of the important pieces of the Local
- 31:56Speaker 4: Water Done Well that is now being you know, is
- 31:59Speaker 4: in the process of being implemented we've got six council
- 32:02Speaker 4: controlled organizations, with another thirteen being set up by one
- 32:06Speaker 4: July next year, and then we'll have twenty in house
- 32:09Speaker 4: business units. So all of those, whether you're an in
- 32:11Speaker 4: house business unit or a council controlled organization, you have
- 32:15Speaker 4: to do a water services strategy. And that is something
- 32:19Speaker 4: that's you know, obviously, if you're a CECO, it's going
- 32:21Speaker 4: to purely be focused on water. In the old world,
- 32:24Speaker 4: if you were part of the council, your the long
- 32:27Speaker 4: term plan might have you know, two or three pages
- 32:29Speaker 4: on water. So the in house business unit is now
- 32:33Speaker 4: going to have to produce its own ten year plan
- 32:37Speaker 4: and looking beyond is also up to thirty years in
- 32:40Speaker 4: terms of looking at water, and that's really important because
- 32:43Speaker 4: if you're focusing on that, you know, on that one thing,
- 32:45Speaker 4: on this place, brinking water, waste water and stormwater, you
- 32:48Speaker 4: know you are going to you will end up understanding
- 32:52Speaker 4: more about your assets and being able to put the
- 32:54Speaker 4: money where you need to.
- 32:56Speaker 3: Absolutely jill your buys from what I do you see them,
- 32:58Speaker 3: the Chief executive officer, I thank you big pressing problem,
- 33:01Speaker 3: fix it before.
- 33:02Speaker 1: The news breaks. Hear it first. Andrew Dickens on early
- 33:05Speaker 1: edition with Spark for business technology that keeps business groving
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- 33:10Speaker 3: That'd be little note for you. By the way, Ryan Fox,
- 33:13Speaker 3: the winner of the Golf Openers taking the Claret jug
- 33:15Speaker 3: to Takatai Square Brita rights sector in Auckland twelve noon
- 33:19Speaker 3: today people could come and see the jug, wear black
- 33:22Speaker 3: and support of his achievement. Good on it. Good a Foxy,
- 33:26Speaker 3: My costing morning.
- 33:27Speaker 6: Do you do the water?
- 33:28Speaker 12: My apologies for not just did to the emply from
- 33:31Speaker 12: Is that negligence? Oh yeah, but in America you would
- 33:34Speaker 12: sue somebody, wouldn't you.
- 33:35Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 33:35Speaker 12: I mean your fundamental job as a counsel is to
- 33:37Speaker 12: make sure stuff works. Basic stuff works.
- 33:40Speaker 3: But your fundamental job as a counselor is to get
- 33:42Speaker 3: voted in. And nobody gives us shit excuse my language.
- 33:45Speaker 3: They don't get a damn about water.
- 33:47Speaker 12: Peter Blandy's on the program this morning. I just thought
- 33:50Speaker 12: it'd be worth worth getting him on once he announced that,
- 33:52Speaker 12: you know, five plus billion dollars richest sport in this
- 33:55Speaker 12: particular part of the world, and he's largely driven. He's
- 33:57Speaker 12: the man behind the success of the NRL. He's with
- 34:00Speaker 12: us after write a clock be work man.
- 34:02Speaker 3: Thank you my thanks for producer Kensey said a producer
- 34:05Speaker 3: sam I Andrew, I can see you tomorrow.
- 34:07Speaker 10: No sorry, tell me.
- 34:09Speaker 2: What ACR.
- 34:11Speaker 5: No kickle.
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