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Splenic Intuition IRL with 1/3 Projector Nicole Pope · Human Design IRL

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SPEAKER_01: Oh, hey there.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Carly, Human Design Medium, and your guide for this podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: This is Human Design IRL, where we talk to my favorite women in the world about how their human design shows up in their real lives.
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SPEAKER_01: So you have actual examples as you're learning about how your design might show up in yours.
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SPEAKER_01: Here's a clip from today's episode.
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SPEAKER_01: What do you feel like as a projector felt the most successful to you in that position when you got into a company?
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SPEAKER_02: Able to see through the problem.
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SPEAKER_02: I used to tell people I would train, you will know what the problem is by the second or third week of this project.
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SPEAKER_02: But 99% of the work was convincing everybody else what the problem was using data, using interviews, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I could see exactly what the problem was.
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SPEAKER_02: And of course, probably a projector thing, probably can't teach that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And what you're doing is turning it into data.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and you are teaching others to see through that perspective.
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SPEAKER_01: You're helping them become more efficient.
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SPEAKER_01: Before we start the episode, I want to remind you that we talk about specific channels, gates, incarnation crosses, all the stuff in every episode.
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SPEAKER_01: So if you want to grab your chart, now is the time, or head to my website, humandesignmedium.com backslash design.
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SPEAKER_01: There's a free calculator on there.
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SPEAKER_01: You're welcome to use.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
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SPEAKER_01: Hi, I'm Carly R.
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SPEAKER_01: Buckle, Human Design Medium, and this is the Human Design IRL Podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: Officially with my first guest, spiritual besties and soul people, Nicole Pope, soul medium and transformation alchemist.
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SPEAKER_01: She bridges science and spirit to help people access the wisdom of their soul, recalibrate what's out of alignment, and step into the version of themselves.
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SPEAKER_01: They're actually here to become, yes, you do.
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SPEAKER_01: How would you like to introduce yourself, Nicole?
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SPEAKER_01: Do you want to just say hey to the people?
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SPEAKER_02: Just hey to the people.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so happy to be here, Carly.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so excited for this, for the wisdom you're about to impart on me, and also for everyone to fucking see the magic that you are.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm so ready for this.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm excited.
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SPEAKER_01: I was just, we were just saying before we started recording, and maybe this will make editing easier.
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SPEAKER_01: Like this is honestly just a tool for my I'm minimizing it.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm doing.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm minimizing it.
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SPEAKER_01: And my coach is gonna listen to this and be like, hey, just stay, just step into your path or here.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay, what we are doing right now is a great example of projectorism, though.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but you also have to see that my coffee has letter L in it.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, all I see is a heart.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's a heart.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_01: That's spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: Spirit is here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So maybe like, why don't we introduce our how we know each other so that people can get a feel for our vibe?
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SPEAKER_01: Because we are going to likely talk about spirit a lot.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm a medium, I'm an angel medium.
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SPEAKER_01: That's where I started my journey, but actually ended up spirit led me to human design, and that's how I work now.
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SPEAKER_01: But why don't you?
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SPEAKER_01: So that's where we really connected.
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SPEAKER_01: So why don't you talk about your background?
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SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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SPEAKER_02: So I, when I was a wee babe, was raised Catholic and went to business school and wanted to work with computers since I was probably nine years old.
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SPEAKER_02: And then went to business school, learned all the IT things, worked in corporate for 20 plus years, and found out that my son at the age of five could see spirit with his eyes.
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SPEAKER_02: Cool, which just dropped this giant bomb of a spiritual awakening for me, where I've always loved spirit.
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SPEAKER_02: I've always coming from the Catholic faith, it was always really interesting because I was like, what does everybody do after they die and go to heaven?
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SPEAKER_02: Because they don't talk about reincarnation.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, it must be really boring up there.
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SPEAKER_02: It must be the most boring place of Mecca.
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SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I mean, we can talk about that.
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SPEAKER_01: I thought the same thing, and I was raised as Episcopal Episcopalian Episcopal.
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SPEAKER_01: I still am, but they call it Robin Williams calls like Catholic light, like same religion, half the guilt.
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SPEAKER_01: But I thought the same thing.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, wouldn't we get bored for eternity?
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SPEAKER_01: For eternity, eternity, eternity.
4:14
SPEAKER_01: So you're wondering about eternity, just casual and mass.
4:17
SPEAKER_01: Got it, keep going.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: So always had the background of faith and religion and always wanting to believe something bigger and higher.
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SPEAKER_02: And I don't know, some something being out there, but also when my son was a baby, not wanting to raise him in a super strict Catholic church.
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SPEAKER_02: And like we literally did a tour to churches when he was a baby.
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SPEAKER_02: And I hated them all because they all came from this foundation of structure and separation between you and God.
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SPEAKER_02: And so ultimately at the end of the day, once he saw spirit, I was like, hallelujah.
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SPEAKER_02: Because now I can actually start working as a medium and learning how to do this work myself and having that direct connection to the spirit world and God and the divine and the universe all by myself, which is the basis of everything that I do now.
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SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't just him seeing spirit that really popped everything open.
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SPEAKER_02: He changed the reality of my entire world from top to bottom and allowed me to go and live life completely differently than the way that I had.
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SPEAKER_02: So I am the ultimate, I think, test case for skepticism.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's the first thing that comes to my mind as you're talking about this, because as a recovering Catholic, which I think you've called yourself before.
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SPEAKER_01: So Catholicism, if we always say whatever path to religion makes you feel close to God and makes you feel like the best version of yourself, that's the path for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So if Catholicism is for you, that is absolutely fantastic.
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SPEAKER_01: But you call yourself a recovering Catholic because of all the rules and the wondering and the guilt, I would imagine.
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SPEAKER_01: But so you say it finally gives you permission.
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SPEAKER_01: Your son starts to see spirit, which holy cow, that would freak me right the heck out.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess we're not swearing on this podcast because I'm talking like a which dead grandmother reminded you channeling is the question.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: I, you know what?
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SPEAKER_01: I was thinking about this earlier.
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SPEAKER_01: I was like, does anybody want to come on?
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SPEAKER_01: And I heard grandmother.
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SPEAKER_01: So maybe that's it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but uh, but so that transition though, it's scary when you first start becoming a medium, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Did you find us you have to find a program, right?
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SPEAKER_01: So he starts seeing spirit, which is probably unsettling, right?
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SPEAKER_01: At the it's not like you're like, oh, cool, son, or is it is that what happened?
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SPEAKER_02: For probably about two years, I brushed it off because I'm like, whatever.
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SPEAKER_02: He's he's five years old, it's an imagination, whatever.
6:42
SPEAKER_02: And then after two years, he was still absolutely terrified to go literally anywhere in our house alone.
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SPEAKER_02: And still, we I'm in New England, but it's not it's it was built in '81.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't have an old house by any means.
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SPEAKER_02: It is not scary.
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SPEAKER_02: There are windows everywhere.
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SPEAKER_02: And so after exhausting all other options and not really knowing where else to turn, I went to the medium that I saw, and I'm like, could he actually be seeing dead people?
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SPEAKER_02: And she's oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, okay, so then what do I do about that?
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SPEAKER_02: And she's just, you're a medium, just go figure it out yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's the part that I think we needed to get to.
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SPEAKER_01: Someone gave you permission to start to look into your spiritual gifts.
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SPEAKER_01: You I've I haven't mentioned this yet, but you are a one-three projector, a splenic projector.
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SPEAKER_01: And the whole point of this podcast is to go into what that is in real life for you.
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SPEAKER_01: And human design, I believe, shows you where your intuition is channeled through your body.
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SPEAKER_01: For you, it's your spleen, which sounds a little out there.
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SPEAKER_01: So basically, let me just give a little history of how this works for you.
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SPEAKER_01: The spleen is the oldest energy center of the nine energy centers in human design.
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SPEAKER_01: It is associated with fear.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like that primal, I always call it like a deer in a field that just knows and just will move before it sees something that's a threat.
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SPEAKER_01: I've found that's true.
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SPEAKER_01: Traditional human design would say the spleen speaks once.
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SPEAKER_01: I think that's daunting.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it speaks in the moment and you have to listen moment to moment.
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SPEAKER_01: Archangel Metatron says you're never more than one step off your highest path, so you're not gonna miss something.
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SPEAKER_01: But what I heard in your story you had a knowing when he started seeing spirit, but you were using your logic, right?
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SPEAKER_01: Is that correct?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes, absolutely, because I never knew someone could see spirit in the 3D like that.
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SPEAKER_01: Do you remember the first time he talked to you about this?
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SPEAKER_02: Yep, I do.
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SPEAKER_01: And what was in your body and then what happened with your mind?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so it's a chain reaction.
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SPEAKER_02: So initially, in my body was more fear-based.
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SPEAKER_02: I was like, because I could feel his fear.
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SPEAKER_02: So I'm obviously picking up on his emotions and his energy.
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SPEAKER_02: So I could feel the fear that he was having in his physical body as if it were my own.
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SPEAKER_02: Of course, in the moment, I wouldn't have told you that, right?
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SPEAKER_02: I would have just been fearful.
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SPEAKER_02: But now I know it happens.
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SPEAKER_01: So fear, you're talking about the emotion of feeling afraid, yes, not a sense of not being safe, or did you not feel safe?
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SPEAKER_02: I oh, I felt safe.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I was afraid for him or how to protect him.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so continue.
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SPEAKER_02: So in your body, you're feeling that.
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SPEAKER_02: And then as my brain starts to process what he's doing, I actually told him to draw me a picture.
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SPEAKER_02: And I was like, draw me a picture of what you're seeing.
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SPEAKER_02: I obviously can't see it.
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SPEAKER_02: So draw me a picture.
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SPEAKER_02: And when he drew it at five years old, the only basis that he had was drew drawing the black people from Minecraft.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh god.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's exactly what he drew.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh god, what are those called?
10:08
SPEAKER_01: Those are I might Google it.
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SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what it's called, but they're seeing it.
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SPEAKER_01: They have long legs, right?
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SPEAKER_01: And they're called something creepy.
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SPEAKER_01: Um what is it?
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SPEAKER_01: What are they called?
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SPEAKER_01: The oh my god.
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SPEAKER_01: Minecraft scary people.
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SPEAKER_01: What is it?
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SPEAKER_01: Yes, I'm seeing them, but I don't know what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can't remember what they're called either.
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SPEAKER_01: Minecraft character.
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SPEAKER_02: Enderman.
10:38
SPEAKER_02: Did you just say it more more Bostonian than I just sent up?
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SPEAKER_01: And oh, I thought it was Endo.
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SPEAKER_01: No, I was thinking it was Enderman, is what you're saying.
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SPEAKER_01: No, but that's a tribute to how weird Bostonian accents are.
10:57
SPEAKER_01: I love you, Boston.
10:58
SPEAKER_01: But golly, I remember watching CT, if you remember on The Real World, yeah, and being like, is he from England?
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SPEAKER_01: What is that accent?
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: Um Enderman.
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SPEAKER_01: Enderman.
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SPEAKER_01: Endo.
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SPEAKER_01: I thought it was Endoman, Enderman.
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SPEAKER_01: Ender.
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SPEAKER_01: So Spirit looks like an Enderman to your son.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I'm just like, oh, obviously, this is his imagination, right?
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_02: So logically.
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SPEAKER_02: So we just we played dumb for two years and just had fun with it.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm just like, oh, you're obviously seeing these things.
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SPEAKER_02: But then also at the same time, he refuses to go into our basement alone.
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SPEAKER_02: He refused to be upstairs in his bedroom.
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SPEAKER_02: He sleeps with all the lights on.
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SPEAKER_02: He sleeps with his head under the covers.
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SPEAKER_02: Classic, super sensitive children things happening to him, but I never personally experienced that.
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SPEAKER_02: And this is probably in the chart as well, because I feel spirit.
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SPEAKER_02: I have a very strong clairsentient.
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SPEAKER_02: And that's why I went 36 years of my life totally clueless to the fact that I was tapped into spirit because I expected it to show up in seeing spirit and hearing spirit and not feeling spirit.
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SPEAKER_02: I was unaware that was a way that you could perceive or experience spirit.
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SPEAKER_01: You've got this very lit up spleen.
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SPEAKER_01: And while it is, it seems like a mysterious thing from human design.
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SPEAKER_01: I remember looking up over and over what is splenic intuition?
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SPEAKER_01: How do you feel splenic intuition?
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SPEAKER_01: Because it is a feeling in your body.
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SPEAKER_01: And there's schools of thought that say expand and retract.
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SPEAKER_01: I see it, the angels brought it through as one of those baby saucers that just runs into something before it's troubled.
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SPEAKER_01: You can still do it, but it's just not safe for you.
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SPEAKER_01: You've got four gates lit up.
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SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about one of your channels that leads from your screen to your throat.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: It has to do with doing things over and over, like repeating them and getting better at them.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, the irony.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: And I can't just record it.
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SPEAKER_02: I have to now reanalyze the shit out of it and look at it from a totally different perspective.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's driving me fucking crazy.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So just tapped into spirit about this.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And they're saying, in terms of you have acquired a keen sense of energy and energetic perception because it was dangerous at home growing up.
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SPEAKER_01: So that sense of always being able to feel spirit came from a necessity actually to keep you safe, which is what the spleen is.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: All right.
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SPEAKER_01: That checks out.
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SPEAKER_01: So, and that makes sense because that's your intuition.
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SPEAKER_01: So that's what's also guiding you in the moment.
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SPEAKER_01: But this sense of pulling in energy is something that you practiced and needed to do out of necessity to keep yourself safe.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: So this channel that they want me to focus on today, for people who are listening, it is the 1648.
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SPEAKER_01: And when we talk about gates in and these numbers in human design, what they really are is they are numbers on the e ching, which is a part one, I'm not gonna go into all of the ancient wisdom that is behind human design, but what you should know, some people call it gifts, some people call it the gene keys as a whole thing.
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SPEAKER_01: Each of these numbers has a characteristic based on all of the information that goes into your chart.
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SPEAKER_01: They are just parts of your energy that are consistent within you and make up your energetic frequency, your which is therefore your purpose, your unique self, why you're here.
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SPEAKER_01: And neither, none of them can exist alone.
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SPEAKER_01: They all make up this beautiful picture of who you are.
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SPEAKER_01: But the way that Spirit works with me, and I think is working through this podcast, is by pulling some out there so that we can learn more about them.
14:55
SPEAKER_01: Because I think one of the biggest obstacles to human design for people, including you, I think, because you've known about human design forever, is it's just so complex, right?
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SPEAKER_01: What has stopped you in the past from other than maybe you're just not interested in it?
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SPEAKER_01: But I've talked to you about your chart so many times, but you still on the podcast questionnaire are like, I don't really know anything about it.
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SPEAKER_01: Can you talk a little bit about that so people understand?
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SPEAKER_02: And I think this is in my human design.
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SPEAKER_02: I do not like structured systems because I am here to create and synthesize and simplify systems that are out there.
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SPEAKER_02: And when I and it's so interesting because I think it's so real and I think it's so accurate, but also at the same time, every time I try to sit down and learn it, my brain just cannot comprehend.
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SPEAKER_02: It can't it cannot comprehend it.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's so interesting because working with you, working with other human design professionals as well, it's really interesting because whatever spirit brings up is what I'm supposed to talk about.
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SPEAKER_02: And then at the same time, and maybe this can be a series on your podcast, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: At the same time, it's what I'm calling out is directly found in their human design chart.
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SPEAKER_02: I just to get to it.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what we're all doing right now as healers and as spiritual practitioners, is there's different things we're called to use.
17:20
SPEAKER_01: You also use you use Galactic, you use Akashic Records, you use all of these very specialized tools or practice.
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SPEAKER_01: I think this one is just maybe not what's interesting to me about this, and I know so the two channels they want to talk about on your chart for everybody who is listening as Nicole has a defined ajna, defined throat, defined G center, and defined spleen.
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SPEAKER_01: And she has the channel that's 17, 62, 16, and 48.
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SPEAKER_01: And that just that goes along a logic circuit.
17:55
SPEAKER_01: So you've got this spleen, you've got this, it's called, let me get the exact phrasing right.
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SPEAKER_01: It's called the channel of talent.
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SPEAKER_01: So you understand how to through repetition, you and dedication to a craft, you understand how to articulate it.
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SPEAKER_01: And then you've got this ajna to throat connection that helps you teach it and helps you simplify.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: This is the channel that you're talking about.
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SPEAKER_01: Simplify the connection.
18:22
SPEAKER_01: So, you know what I'm gonna do?
18:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna read what the what this says in my software, right?
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so you have access to skills and knowledge to master your talent through dedication and continuous repetition, enriching others in the process.
18:36
SPEAKER_01: Although you have an innate talent, it requires constant practice and improvement.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: The key is to find the passion to which you can fully dedicate yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: So, how does that channel show up in your life?
18:50
SPEAKER_02: Ooh, it uh it's so true because I don't want to just there's definitely levels to my learning and interpretation of certain things.
18:59
SPEAKER_02: So let's just take mediumship, for example.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:02
SPEAKER_02: Um, so when I started mediumship, I learned from a teacher who taught everything in a box.
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SPEAKER_02: When I'm learning something, I will absolutely learn it knowing that it's understood by the context of the teacher, by the biases of the teacher, by the circumstances of the teacher.
19:16
SPEAKER_02: And so I'm always walking into a class with my eyes and ears wide open, knowing for a fact that I'm not going to take away the information as it's being taught to me.
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SPEAKER_02: And so I walk in with that assumption, knowing I'm gonna go into a deeper level, but give me the foundation of the basis of mediumship, for example.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, so she did.
19:37
SPEAKER_02: And then I was like, great, I now know how to connect.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: I need I got the critical steps out of this first class.
19:43
SPEAKER_02: And then I went back and I read all the books and I took more classes.
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SPEAKER_02: And for me, it's understanding because I think everybody that comes into this work comes in with specific information, foundation, backgrounds, perspectives, specialties with this, that I literally just spread everything as far as I can and learn everything from everybody.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: And then I take what resonates best for me.
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SPEAKER_02: What is the common themes across everybody?
20:08
SPEAKER_02: And I'm able to bring that together into my air spirit communication system that essentially says, okay, so now I've not only done mediumship, but I've taken spirit guide classes, I've taken spiritual assessment classes, I've taken Akashic Records classes, oh, I took one galactic class.
20:24
SPEAKER_02: And it was just really interesting because the foundation of all of these five seemingly separate modalities is exactly the same.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: So I'm able to kind of take each individual one, bring it down to the lower level, bring it down to the lower level.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's a constant continuation of learning, refining, synthesizing, learning, refining, synthesizing, and then obviously teaching it to others when I feel like it is in a sustainable, easy to understand format or system so that other people can kind of learn from my freaking three-year process, uncovering and understanding all of these modalities.
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SPEAKER_02: And I can teach the same thing in nine months that it took me three years to bring everything together, which is a thousand percent true.
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SPEAKER_01: I in terms of human, if you are into mediumship and you want to learn how to connect immediately, I've told you this.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: This is that that's the best class I've ever taken.
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SPEAKER_01: And because it, the way that you teach it makes it more simple.
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SPEAKER_01: I feel as spiritual or as people, especially the women that I work with, I see myself as a gateway into understanding yourself more and getting into your spiritual journey and really feeling confident in that to go to the mediumship class, to go to whatever you feel called to.
21:39
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like you you just say, okay, like you empower people.
21:44
SPEAKER_01: And a couple of things I want to point out in real life because you just mentioned them.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: So you are a projector.
21:51
SPEAKER_01: Your job, our job, we're both projectors, is to see what other people don't see, to see from a different perspective and to bring that insight when invited into the world to make things more efficient.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: We do that, you do that also through your profile, which is a one-three.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: The one has to do with gathering information, the three has to do with trial and error.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: So absolutely describes who you are and what you do.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: But what you also said as it relates to this channel that we just talked about is repetition.
22:25
SPEAKER_01: You said what, like refine, you had three words.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: Do you remember what you said?
22:31
SPEAKER_01: I don't.
22:33
SPEAKER_01: But it just perfectly describes that process of first of all, that projector curiosity, that one line curiosity, which is the first line in your chart, what the first part of you that you would identify with in terms of your personality, that ultimately wants all the information because it feels safer that way, which gets back to your spleen.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: You want to have a lay of the land and people around.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: Around you, I found with one lines will say that you are just getting, you don't need that much information.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, why do you need to have all of this information?
23:09
SPEAKER_01: I think there's a shadow side that feels like there's more control when you have more information.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: And then perhaps you wouldn't be sharing it because you'd just be wanting to get more and more.
23:19
SPEAKER_01: But that is who you are to your core.
23:22
SPEAKER_01: And you really are just that curious.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: You are here to make yourself feel safe, to make others feel safe through information.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: And then you've got this doer, this trial and error, this three line that likes to try things, see if they work out.
23:37
SPEAKER_01: And if they don't, just move on.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: And what you've done is use these channels that you have, this 4816 through that repetition.
23:46
SPEAKER_01: Now you've got the knowledge that you can speak about.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: And then through your ajna, which is this gate 17 or this channel 1762, but the gate in particular that can connects to that throat is that you recognize various patterns and form a logical opinion about possible solutions or viability of a pattern that everyone can rely on.
24:08
SPEAKER_01: Opinion is enduring and proves itself even when it is put to the test or criticized, as soon as you express it.
24:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I tell this number one in all my classes.
24:19
SPEAKER_02: I tell my students, I'm like, bring all the questions, challenge my system, tell me that I'm wrong.
24:23
SPEAKER_02: I want you to, and it's not meant to be like an actual challenge, but I know that I don't have all the answers, but I know the foundational structure that can help us find the answers to the questions that I don't have.
24:36
SPEAKER_01: Because you've followed your whatever you're passionate about, and you've repeated it over and over enough to be sure that you can then speak about it.
24:46
SPEAKER_01: And also the way that you interpret it through that ajna is then something that you can defend or you feel like you can defend.
24:53
SPEAKER_01: You've got this set way of processing information, and that is the actually the only gate you have in your ajna, which is your processor.
25:02
SPEAKER_01: So what's interesting to me also is that you have an open head.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: So you're open-minded, which means that you can draw inspiration from all sorts of sources.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: So when you're talking about going from source to source to source, finding at through your spleen, like what you're interested in and going after it over and over till you're able to articulate it and then through your ajna, then process that and be able to notice through your projector perspective, through the information you've gathered as a one-line, through the trial and error you have as a three-line.
25:37
SPEAKER_01: You can then teach it in a way.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: So this, I'll talk to you about the channel now.
25:43
SPEAKER_01: So that's 1762.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: So we talked about the seven.
25:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna just to recap so people can follow.
25:49
SPEAKER_01: You've got that 17 gate, which is about seeing the patterns and having that opinion that we talked about that you are you're asking for challenge on because you know that you can defend it.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: And so this whole channel is that you effortlessly explore complex structures and explain them to others in a simple manner using everyday examples.
26:10
SPEAKER_01: You keep the big picture in mind without getting lost in the details.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: However, without a thorough consideration of all relevant facts, your long-term goals could go astray.
26:22
SPEAKER_01: So that explains why you need to be thorough.
26:27
SPEAKER_01: You're in the light side of that or the gift side of that channel.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: And that was a beautiful example of how that shows up.
26:36
SPEAKER_01: The other thing, I guess, the other part of that gate when we're talking about how you're making things simple is this 62.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: You have the ability to select and organize details to better understand a complex fact, situation, or concept, and then explain it in a clear, structure, and tangible way that makes it understandable and comprehensible for others.
26:59
SPEAKER_01: That completely checks out.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: I mean, where else has this shown up?
27:05
SPEAKER_01: Because before, as a corporate professional, which is what you were, maybe talk to people about how this showed up before being a spiritual practitioner, this sense of needing to figure things out, to have a different perspective, to have all the information to trial and error.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: I, in my corporate career, I was a Six Sigma master black belt.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: So essentially a process engineer.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: I know it's the most ridiculous of terms.
27:35
SPEAKER_02: Made popular by Toyota and Motorola and GE, Dave Welsh.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: So what so that is essentially a methodology that is a problem-solving methodology.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: So there would be a process to it.
27:46
SPEAKER_02: And you back when I studied, and I think it's a little bit different nowadays, a company needed to have this expertise.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: They needed to train you in order for you to be successful in this role.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: And so it's really interesting as we're talking about what my process was or what I was like before the spiritual space, because it was very similar.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: So they would drop me into the middle of processes, departments, organizations that I knew nothing about.
28:10
SPEAKER_02: And I on average smoothed my organization that I worked for every two years or so.
28:15
SPEAKER_02: And so I worked in financial services, I worked in insurance, I worked in private equity.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: And so this is part of the my core belief that it's the methodology or the method, not necessarily the place that you're working in, because I knew the Six Sigma methodology so well that I could effectively take the step-by-step process and bring it into any organization, any process, any department, and I could solve the problem for you.
28:41
SPEAKER_02: And it was a consistent process in terms of um, you would understand what the problem is, you would collect all of the data to help understand the current state of the problem, which includes interviewing people who are part of the process, going into the systems to look at the data within the process, and essentially using the data to identify what is the root cause of the problem that they're facing, and then solution based on the root cause.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: That basically is a logical sort of angle and explanation of what you do naturally with your intuition, which makes total sense if you look at that, because that you're doing that now.
29:21
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
29:21
SPEAKER_01: It's just instead of Six Sigma, it's mediumship, it's spirit.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Would you say you were passionate about Six Sigma when you were learning it or when you were taking it in or bringing it to people?
29:33
SPEAKER_01: Immensely.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Loved it.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: Loved it.
29:36
SPEAKER_02: If it didn't come in, I could have easily spent the rest of my career doing this work.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: And what do you feel like as a projector that felt the most successful to you in that position when you got into a company?
29:55
SPEAKER_02: Being able to see through the problem.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: And I used to tell people I would train, you will know what the problem is by the second or third week of this project.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: But 99% of the work was convincing everybody else what the problem was, using data, using interviews, right?
30:11
SPEAKER_02: And so, like for me, that's how clear the project was, or that's how clear the problem was, because I could see exactly what the problem was.
30:19
SPEAKER_02: And of course, probably a projector thing, probably can't teach that.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:23
SPEAKER_01: And what you're doing is turning it into data.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: Um, and you are teaching others to see through that perspective.
30:30
SPEAKER_01: You're helping them become more efficient.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: But I want you to talk about as productors, we need to be invited and what that or recognized and in order to feel successful.
30:41
SPEAKER_01: And part of that story, you are recognized.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: So your firm drops you into, invites you into because they know you can solve.
30:50
SPEAKER_01: So that's what makes you feel successful, right?
30:52
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: It's fulfilling because you can see the problem, you know you've done it.
30:56
SPEAKER_01: Can you talk about how in places that people did not want your input or that projector thing that's classic, that you bring something up at a meeting, people look at you like you've got two heads, and then three days later they'll come back and say the same thing in a different way.
31:12
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm struggling with that one just a little bit because I ended up working with a lot of the same people in my career over and over again because it is a very incestuous type of role.
31:23
SPEAKER_02: And so, just to give you an example, when I started my career and I started working in this space, um I was at ing slash Voya, financial services company, and the boss that I had there ended up hiring me into my next role, ended up starting the consulting company.
31:43
SPEAKER_02: I ended up working, and then like when I went into private equity, it was the former executive that I used to work with.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: I was essentially known as the guru in the New England area for this type of work.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: And so I never actually had to really apply for a role outside of college.
32:00
SPEAKER_02: I would always get recruited into the next job, and I was already working with people that I used to work with.
32:04
SPEAKER_02: By the time that I left consulting, I was working with three or four of my former bosses and about three of my former colleagues.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: And it was an organization of 10.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: So what you were what you were doing is following the recognition.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: And I think at a high level, and people were inviting you.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: Like that's an optimal situation for a projector.
32:25
SPEAKER_01: I think I'm talking about in terms of as a consultant, you go into an organization.
32:30
SPEAKER_01: Do these people want your knowledge?
32:32
SPEAKER_01: Do these people believe in your credibility right away?
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Or has there been a situation where that's been frustrating?
32:40
SPEAKER_02: So it's interesting because obviously yes is the answer, but I've I created a method around that too, because I knew that if I didn't get quick wins early in the project, then I would create friction until they saw some sort of a relief or an improvement in terms of what their processes were.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: So I always embedded while I was doing current state analysis in the current project, I would always sit with the key decision makers, the key influencers of the project and show them quick wins that they could have done.
33:10
SPEAKER_02: And then that immediately built trust in the process.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: And if we're talking about the scenario where they truly weren't bought in, like I would just sit back with my popcorn and my coffee and be like, well, this is level, we'll just see this go down, and then you're gonna know that I'm right.
33:27
SPEAKER_02: And or like it was like clockwork, Carly.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: It was the easy.
33:33
SPEAKER_02: I think for most other people, it would have been a very difficult job.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: And I have peers in the space that are still struggling with it.
33:39
SPEAKER_02: But for me, it was just like it was just like sitting back and doing the easiest job in the world.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: No matter how difficult the problem was, the process always pushed you through it like effortlessly.
33:50
SPEAKER_02: And so I never, by the time I was the end of my corporate career, I never really thought about the resistance.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:59
SPEAKER_01: So this is a good tool though for projectors to hear.
34:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:02
SPEAKER_01: I think if you are not in a career that, you know, or if you're in a career that is structured like that, there is recognition when you have you were invited into this role.
34:13
SPEAKER_01: And there are going to be people who don't want to hear from you.
34:16
SPEAKER_01: And what I'm hearing from you, and going back to your sense of feeling, is that you really protected your energy and separated yourself from the process.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: So you were invited to be there.
34:27
SPEAKER_01: You were invited to share your wisdom, but you did not take on the sort of temptation that put some projectors I have, that is a, I need to make sure everybody hears me or sees me or buys into it.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm a four-line.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: So relationships to me are everything.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: Oh I remember in meetings and conflict, like I could not walk away from that.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: I felt very uncomfortable and unsuccessful actually when a meeting ended that way.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: But I think something that's really good that projectors can hear from this is that if you are invited somewhere, you can rely on that invitation.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: And you don't have to use your energy or open your energy to people who are not ready for it or who haven't invited it.
35:16
SPEAKER_01: Right.
35:17
SPEAKER_01: Or who don't recognize it.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: If you're invited to be there, you don't have to get the invite from everybody there.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: So I only, and this is project management 101, you have project success factors.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: I need to make sure that my projects are on time, on budget, within scope, with the right resources.
35:36
SPEAKER_02: And so as long as my chain of command knew what I was doing and was able to support me and see me, that's all I needed.
35:46
SPEAKER_02: And it didn't really necessarily matter if the staff or the business partners or the IT resources that I work with were bought in.
35:54
SPEAKER_02: It didn't matter to me because my I was there to do a job and come hell or high water, I was going to get them to do that job because that's why I was there.
36:02
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: And so you defined success by doing the thing that you actually came in to do.
36:10
SPEAKER_02: Can I because they didn't know better?
36:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they could they didn't see what I could see.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: They didn't know that I had reduced wait times at the DMV, the Department of Motor Vehicles, by 66%, right?
36:23
SPEAKER_02: This is part of what I did, right?
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Wow.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: Ridiculous.
36:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: And it's just, I think that I inherently knew my value.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: And I realized that not everybody, I guess I must have at some point, could see the value or see the outcome.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: And so for me, I was just like, I'm gonna let them go through their big emotional outbursts or their misunderstandings of it, and I'm gonna get you to the other side.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: And I could tell you it worked so well because I'm still in contact with many of the business partners that I worked with over the years that still have a home for me, should I ever need to go back to a corporate role at some point because of how good a job I did.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: So you're absolutely right.
37:03
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't about the relationships for me, it was the outcome of being able to deliver on the thing that I was told to deliver on.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: And that we get back to that gate 17 that knows because you've done, you've seen the patterns, you've seen the results, you know the logic, and you you're not rattled by that.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: I think that's a very cool way that 17 shows up, and then you're able to articulate that in a simple way.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: That's how the 62 shows up.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: So you're not losing people when you're talking about it.
37:36
SPEAKER_01: That's quite literally a part of your purpose.
37:38
SPEAKER_01: That's such a gift to be able to talk about in terms of spiritual, like when you're first starting as a medium and you're you get a client who's lost a child, who's lost a spouse, the last thing you want to do is make it up or feel like you're not a you, it's very humbling and hard as a human being to really truly take in and hold in your body that this is not about you.
38:06
SPEAKER_01: And it takes practice.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's what you with that line, you do you go over and over again.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:12
SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think it's so vital and why you're such a good spiritual teacher is that you are very certain about you have this way of processing information that you are so certain about your conclusion or the way that you're thinking about it, that people can rely on you, students can rely on you to not only have that, but have answers that you have you can explain to them in a way that is understandable, easy to access.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: And this spleen to throat is like you can talk about the all the courses, the things that you've, the directions you've taken, the work that you've done to get get the credibility, the one line, you've done all of that research, you've tried all of these things.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: That's like a very cool way for that to express itself.
39:10
SPEAKER_01: And so if you're listening and you have these lines, these are the gifts that come from.
39:17
SPEAKER_01: We've talked about the 48, the 16, the set 62, 17.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: These are the channels that Nicole has.
39:24
SPEAKER_01: She's got a defined ajna by only that 17 gate, which is that thing that makes you sure about of yourself, that you've seen the patterns.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: It's logical to you in that part of your brain.
39:35
SPEAKER_01: And your brain, your ajna is for other people, it's not for you.
39:39
SPEAKER_01: So it's important that you don't apply that logic to yourself, that you trust your in intuition.
39:45
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Because it's probably tempting to use logic to predict your own stuff.
39:51
SPEAKER_02: Oh my God, all the time.
39:53
SPEAKER_02: I have to separate out my brain and realize that I can do anything.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: I know I can do anything, right?
39:59
SPEAKER_02: And I have the confidence to do anything.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: It's just, do I want to do it in resistance where I fail and fail and fail and keep trying, or do I surrender to spirit, let them kind of set the strategy, let spirit be the CEO, and then use my execution and my logical brain to say, great, that's the path we're going.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: Let me see how I can get there efficiently.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: So when you talk about spirit's guidance, you would feel that through I always say that as a splenic intuition, that you're already going when something's right for you.
40:29
SPEAKER_01: You would know if it wasn't right for you.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like that's correct?
40:32
SPEAKER_01: Oh, absolutely.
40:33
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: And that's how intuition comes through your body.
40:38
SPEAKER_01: That is so cool.
40:43
SPEAKER_01: I isn't that that you can just see that and have that validated when you already have a very strong opinion, clearly.
40:50
SPEAKER_01: But and you know what I'm saying?
40:51
SPEAKER_01: But I just find it so fascinating that is so clearly written and expressed in your chart.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: And I'm curious as to if you have if other people have these gates, how they come through.
41:02
SPEAKER_01: Because when you go from this language of effortlessly explore complex structures and explain them to others, what and it's called the channel of acceptance.
41:11
SPEAKER_01: This is what in human design, channel of acceptance.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what I guess from an esoteric and meta way, I can understand that.
41:19
SPEAKER_01: And as people who are starting to look into the human design system, I can understand that.
41:24
SPEAKER_01: What it means is that you have all these something you dive into and have a ton of passion about that you learn about, that you look for the patterns in, that you can see the patterns in, and then you form an opinion about it, and you have a certain way of thinking about it, and you have the ability through your throat, through that connection, to communicate it in a simplistic way.
41:49
SPEAKER_01: That is a really good thing to know about yourself.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: That's something you can bring in on terms of a resume.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: So you can bring that's a strength of yours.
41:58
SPEAKER_01: And if you know that walking into somewhere, maybe that gives you a little bit more confidence.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I want to, I'm being prompted by Spirit to just highlight the trial and error takes so much time, so much time.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: It's interesting because I know that I feel and probably appear to you and many of my students how confident I am in this stuff.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: And it's because I have literally spent years in trial and error, right?
42:26
SPEAKER_02: Trial and error.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: And it's so interesting because even with every single iteration of the class that I do, there's always some other level to go into.
42:34
SPEAKER_02: There's other depth to go into.
42:36
SPEAKER_02: And I have these great classes coming up that I know are going to be amazing.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, talk about them, talk about them.
42:42
SPEAKER_02: But I so spirit communication is the foundation, right?
42:45
SPEAKER_02: But then there's also shamanic classes.
42:48
SPEAKER_02: I've taken it from Peruvian Chieto elders, right?
42:53
SPEAKER_02: Through a nine-month mentorship there.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: And now I'm taking it through some, and I've read a million different Sonder Engerman books and other shamanic books.
42:59
SPEAKER_02: And now I finally found a teacher that really brings it from within and creates your own modalities with it, right?
43:04
SPEAKER_02: And then fire is coming up.
43:06
SPEAKER_02: And by the way, this is all alchemy school, which is why it's earth, fire, water, and air.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: But fire is going to be all about your personal power and your energetics.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: And like, how do you um how do you do timeline jumping?
43:18
SPEAKER_02: How do you collapse time?
43:20
SPEAKER_02: Like, how do you make time expand in the moments where you want this podcast episode to last forever?
43:26
SPEAKER_02: Right.
43:26
SPEAKER_02: And so it's like playing with energy and energetics.
43:29
SPEAKER_02: And so these are things that I know are brewing.
43:31
SPEAKER_02: I'm getting little tidbits here and there all the time about all of these different classes I'm meant to be teaching, but I know it hasn't landed yet.
43:37
SPEAKER_02: And I know that I feel sit with spirit to learn these things because I can't find an actual teacher here on planet Earth for a lot of these things as well.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's your intuition.
43:48
SPEAKER_01: You are you're trying to just pick this up as you're led to it.
43:52
SPEAKER_02: And so it's just it's so interesting because it's a very long beginning of the process to understand and uncover and discover and experiment.
44:02
SPEAKER_02: And then once it finally lands, that is the foundation I move forward with, but it doesn't mean that I don't start building on top of that foundation even more.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: So it is just this constant journey of learning and uncovering and bringing more and more to the table for me, for my students, for anyone else in this work, and just looking at things completely different.
44:23
SPEAKER_02: So I just wanted to make sure everyone knew it's not effortless, it takes so much time.
44:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, and I think what Spirit's saying through this is not to discourage people and say it's gonna take you a long time.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: It's to say, give yourself time.
44:39
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
44:40
SPEAKER_01: And we were talking about in expansive.
44:43
SPEAKER_01: And you did not, as you're going through this, are you you're enjoying yourself, right?
44:49
SPEAKER_01: And this is feeling so much fun.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: So it's not annoying to you that the process is long, it's just now you know where it ends up.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: That's shown it's a gift in your design.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
45:04
SPEAKER_02: And I think I wanted to caveat that because I think a lot of people look at me and think that how easy it must have been because of the way that I show it off so easily and seamlessly.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: And this is definitely a projector thing, is what I'm hearing in my head, because we make things so easy on the surface because we've taken out all of the messy bits, we've taken out the things that don't make sense, we've taken out the contradictions that other people have put in place and that protects nervous system and biases and all these different things.
45:28
SPEAKER_02: And we brought it down to the bare bones.
45:30
SPEAKER_02: What do you actually essentially need to know from this?
45:33
SPEAKER_02: And that takes so much time through trial and error to figure out what doesn't fit.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: That's interesting.
45:41
SPEAKER_01: I feel like right now, what you're talking about, because as projectors, we don't have a sacral.
45:46
SPEAKER_01: So physical doing, creating, we don't have limitless energy there, physical presence, but we do have an Olympic.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: If your ajna is defined in your projector, we have an Olympic processor.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: We are constantly taking things in and thinking about them and turning them over in our minds and getting ready for that invitation.
46:07
SPEAKER_01: As projectors, I think people feel limited in terms of actual doing and for you, you were in a wonderful position where you're consulting, and that is the work three, four hours a day.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: But then the rest of it, you are not just sitting there, you're following what draws you in, what's fascinating to me today.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
46:27
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: I think that's a great place to end.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: I think we talked about some really cool parts of your chart.
46:34
SPEAKER_01: Do you have any questions that you want me to go into your chart?
46:38
SPEAKER_01: Or do you have anything else that you want to tell the people?
46:42
SPEAKER_01: I can't recommend you.
46:44
SPEAKER_01: It's something we talk about a lot, is how how much room there is for everybody, and especially as women, how we enjoy you and I enjoy celebrating each other and lifting each other up.
46:56
SPEAKER_01: I can't recommend your stuff enough.
46:59
SPEAKER_01: And I think really, if you're interested in the your podcast alone, that's another one that you can listen to.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: You want to talk about that?
47:09
SPEAKER_01: It's this one three energy of just exploring.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: If you want to follow Nicole as she's learning this stuff, that's where you do it.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: So talk about it.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Carly.
47:21
SPEAKER_02: So I do offer one-on-one readings across my website, and there's group classes with spiritual work, with business work, with personal development work.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I would say my podcast, The Unity Code, is definitely where I tend to try to explore a little bit more.
47:35
SPEAKER_02: And it's that projector energy limitation that just drives me freaking baddie because I want to do all the things all the time.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, the website, the Unity Code, is where you can find some experiments, allow, allow me to share, I think, wisdom in the way that clears a lot of the misconception that's out there in the marketplace today.
47:56
SPEAKER_02: And I really use that as my forum to just drop my musings with spirit, the new downloads that I'm getting, the new perspectives that I'm getting, just for the sake of exploring and expanding and allowing people to think differently about this work, because it is growing so rapidly right now, which is why Carly, I'm so grateful for you with this podcast, because I think there's a lot of misinformation literally everywhere with the spiritual work and including human design.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: And so the more that we can share our knowledge, share our wisdom, share our experience to get the truth of this work out there and how transformational it can be for people, the better.
48:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you sharing and being that's very generous.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: I feel like your podcast is like a lab.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: It's like your lab.
48:41
SPEAKER_01: It's like you're you're showing people behind the It's Jurassic Park when you see the people behind the you know what I'm talking about because it feels so messy.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: I just couldn't see woman.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it makes me feel so much better because it's so messy.
48:57
SPEAKER_02: I feel like I'm processing live with everybody.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: And if you're coming to expect like a perfectly curated podcast, it ain't it.
49:04
SPEAKER_02: It ain't it because I'm all over the place analyzing, bringing spirit in during the conversations, because that's I'm just showing you.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: I think it's beautiful, Carly, and thank you for reflecting that back at me.
49:13
SPEAKER_02: It's definitely watching my brain and action process these thoughts.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
49:18
SPEAKER_01: And what you're doing is the same thing you did with the ex the people who put you in those positions when you were in corporate, is you're getting your invitation from spirit.
49:27
SPEAKER_01: You're getting and you're following that intuition.
49:29
SPEAKER_01: And that is divinely led work.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: And I think it's just so beautiful that you're able to like, yeah.
49:36
SPEAKER_01: And I know, I know you we go through these things where it's oh, as projectors, we want to be seen and we want to be seen as a certain way.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: And corporate has told us to be polished all the time.
49:44
SPEAKER_01: But you're bringing, you're literally doing your purpose.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: You're and you're showing people out loud.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: No one thinks that BD Wong isn't a scientist when they're behind just because you're seeing what they're doing behind the scenes.
49:55
SPEAKER_01: I think that's very encouraging to other people with that, other one threes, other projectors who want to teach and are getting stuck in the do I know enough?
50:04
SPEAKER_01: Am I authoritative enough?
50:07
SPEAKER_01: Because if you've been invited, if you've been invited by spirit, if you feel like this, your intuition comes through and says, I, you know, I feel like this lights me up as a generator.
50:17
SPEAKER_01: Your spleen, it just occurs to me that I need to do this.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: If you talk about it as a G or as a yeah, G center authority, if you are we could go into all the authorities, but uh it's just important to follow that.
50:31
SPEAKER_01: Me too.
50:32
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: Thank you for being here.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
50:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, and thank you for listening, everybody.
50:38
SPEAKER_01: And I think that's a wrap on this one.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
50:41
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
50:42
SPEAKER_01: That was awesome.
50:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, that was fun.
50:46
SPEAKER_01: Thanks for being here.
50:47
SPEAKER_01: If you find yourself wanting to be in the hot seat to know more about your design, to connect to your spirit team so you can feel grounded and confident in who you are.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: Please feel free to check out my website, www.humandesignmedium.com backslash readings.
51:03
SPEAKER_01: I've got programs, I've got plans, I've got a free design calculator, all yours to use when you visit.
51:09
SPEAKER_01: Girl, you are unconditionally loved, supported, and cherished by spirit.
51:14
SPEAKER_01: You are who and how you're meant to be.
51:17
SPEAKER_01: I'm just here to help you see yourself more clearly.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Whew, how's that for a Midwestern goodbye?