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Ladies, if you're afraid of being replaced by fembots, watch this! | Maintaining Frame 98 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello everybody, and welcome to honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  I'm here with Alison. If this is maintaining frame number ninety seven, I
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  suppose so, I think it is ninety eight eight ninety eighty eight. Yeah,
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  I was off by one. And what was that the title? Since
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  I was one? Yeah? Well already, yeah, go ahead, since
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  you you came up with it afraid of being replaced by fembot's watch this because
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  we will be having the fembot discussion. We will be answering the fembot question.
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  yeah, the launch control center. It's very lame. It's very lame because
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  and it's not like any of these platforms are making it easy for us.
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  Okay, it's getting it now. It's getting it now, so you
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  should you should be seeing it soon. Sorry for the confusion. Okay,
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  So anyway, so you should be seeing us in just the moment. I'm
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  just waiting to make sure it does before we get into the video. Do
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  you have any time codes for this? By the way, No, I
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  don't. It was just twelve minutes, so I figured we could do that
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  in like six thirty six hours. Yeah right, okay, Well, it
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  is divided into chapters. It is divided into chapters, so maybe it will
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  work. If we get bored of a chapter, we can always skip to
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  the next one. She starts to repeat herself, which I'm meant, you
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  know, yeah, like, you know what if she starts to do the
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  whole I'm secretly wanting to be a novelist, but I just don't have the
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  skill to write a compelling story kind of drum. You can always just get
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  that, you know that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, let's let's
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  go. Let's look at the intro and whatnot, so swapping to the scenes
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  that matter. This is a video entitled Thembots Explain the Sinister Reality of Perfect
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  Robot Women and AI. By the take, I'm sure this is going to
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  be really educational and enlightening and it will save lives. I'm thinking it'll save
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  lives, so all right, and it will. Let's let's play the intro
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  to this, The Perfect woman doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean that men
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  haven't long tried to create her. Thembots are robots designed to look and act
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  like women, or rather what men wish women would look and act like.
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  You want to rule the world, fixing, I can change what dundee you?
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  You know what? Yes, this is dehumanizing, Like right off the
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  bat, this woman is dehumanizing men. This isn't what men want from women.
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  It's what paranoid women think men want from women. You actually ask women
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  who are paid to provide the things that women like this don't provide. And
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  what is it a girlfriend experience someone who will listen to him and not make
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  him feel like he's eternally on on call for her needs while completely swallowing his
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  own that that's that's what. Uh, that's what a lot of women who
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  who are who are in sex works say about men and what they want.
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  I mean, yeah, the obvious, but also just a woman who doesn't
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  judge them, doesn't expect more than they're capable of, doesn't treat them like
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  they have to constantly prove themselves, constantly make more money, constantly do things
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  better. You know, like this, it's just the desire for a woman
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  who treats them like someone they love that she loves. Yeah, I mean
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  this this move this video opens up with a straw man. Basically, yes,
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  it just opens up with like a straw man about men, and it
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  is the humanizing and then and that's well, that's by design. So and
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  of course it takes what's funny too, is it uses media made by people
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  who are feminist sympathetic to make the point about what men want. So they're
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  they're using you know, this is like the thing about media critics, Like
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  a lot of these feminist media critics, they're criticizing feminist media and then they're
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  saying, this is what men want, you know. Anyway, all right,
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  so next time we pause, let me know that you you're so that
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  I could switch scenes so that you know, we have the vertical matches,
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  so that we have the vertical set up that is correct. Okay, let's
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  play the next bit. Let's get busy, usually beautiful and completely programmable.
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  The finnbot isn't idealized eroticized iteration of femininity. A woman that wasn't a robot?
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  This this woman here, what isn't idealized eroticized? This is literally oh
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  yeah, Terminator three, Rise of the Machines, like she's literally a killer,
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  like not like this is not and in fact, the funny thing is
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  is that. Okay, So just kind of put it out there. I
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  didn't hate Terminator three. It wasn't James Cameron, I know, but as
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  far as Terminator sequels go, it was probably the best of the of the
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  ones after Part two. Okay, but they literally made a female Terminator for
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  that movie because there were feminists saying why aren't there female Terminators? And then
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  the female Terminator, the Terminatrix is what they call it, which is sort
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  of like a spin on dominatrix because this is the only thing feminists can think
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  about when it comes to empowered women. Is actually using her sexuality as a
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  weapon to get close to John Connor, like she likes to not seduces,
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  but she like you know, tries to inflate her breasts to like get a
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  cop to like let her go, and he pulls her over like early on.
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  But and she's like a superior model to the to the old T eight
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  hundred, which is still played by Schwarzenegger. Like they're they're literally doing like
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  a feminist powers fantasy in Terminator three, and now they're acting like this is
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  the opposite of that. You know what I'm saying, Like, yes,
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  I know exactly what you're saying. They're looking at is the feminist imaginings of
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  what men want and also inspired female our fantasies, and they are basically looking
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  at what they think men want and saying that's what men want, because of
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  course they're they're defining it for men. And then they're saying men, well,
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  they're defining what men want. And then they're saying men only want one
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  thing, and it's horrible. And this is like this right here, we
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  see why men are turning away from women because women refuse or at least women
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  like this, and women like this apparently talk for a lot of women.
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  Considering they have a million views. You know, obviously I don't talk for
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  many women. Look at how many views we get, Look at how many
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  subscribers we have. These people one point four million, So these people talk
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  for women. Ye, people are the ones who women resonate with. And
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  apparently this is what women think men want and it's dehumanizing the real reason why
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  men are turning away from women and not even turning away for sex spots because
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  there aren't really any right now, they're just turning away. Is because of
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  this, because women present the notion they define what men want, and they
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  define it in the most dehumanizing terms, and then they are surprised when men
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  are turning away, Like, what men want, in my opinion, from
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  all of my observations, what men want is to feel like it's possible for
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  them to be loved, full stop. That's it. That's what men want.
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  And this is what feminists say men want. It's not actually what they
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  want, it's what And then feminist reference, just like they do with all
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  of their studies and statistics and everything, they reference themselves as evidence for themselves
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  for their own assertions. Oh uh, patriarchy is real. Cite me saying
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  that. Just then fully proven, like our patriarchy of our imagination is okay.
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  This is infuriating right off. This is infuriating. Yeah again, like
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  it's it's astounding, this content so many views, Yeah, it's And all
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  they're doing is they're essentially just putting in, putting in clips from any film
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  that features a woman playing the role of something artificial, and then putting it
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  all under the same umbrella. It's almost like you couldn't even explore a concept
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  where there is an artificial woman and without it have being attached to this this
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  thing that they made up because these are these are you know, this is
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  media created by feminists. But like maybe they did it in the nineties and
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  so and now they're looking at that and saying, oh, it's so.
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  Now we're gonna we're gonna rewrite history of this history of culture and then we're
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  gonna pin it on men, and then we're gonna make it you know,
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  modern, and then compare it to like, you know, wherever we are
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  now on the progressive slide towards oblivion, and then we're gonna still shame the
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  past, even though again this is not like, this is not something that
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  men made for them for their own you know, satisfaction. So I don't
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  know, it's it's just crazy. I got a super chat from Trey Money
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  V and they say they make everything to be some malicious attack. Yeah,
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  it's it's all about, you know, the constant framing of of everything as
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  as bad. So all right, let's get back to the video. Cerration
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  of femininity a woman without opinions, preferences, or sexual agency. She frequently
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  appears in sci fi and horror movies as away are you kidding the Bride of
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  Frankenstein too? Frankenstein? Like what? Yeah? Right? Like again,
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  like, wasn't this is what I'm talking about? Like they they Frankenstein was
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  written by a feminist woman, Mary Shelley, the daughter of Mary Wolfson Craft
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  was considered the first feminist and this was some you know, I don't think
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  there was a book, but like there was. Hollywood was like, let's
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  make a sequel, Yeah, with a woman like that? Again, this
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  is like how far back by the way the pandering goes at least right where
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  they're like, we'll make another one with the female Frankenstein. Like the male
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  Frankenstein was something we're supposed to look up to. I mean the monster,
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  the monster, it's not even Frankenstein Frankenstein. Does that mean that doctor Frankenstein's
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  this is his spride, not the monsters. I'm confused, okay, But
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  anyway, anyway, what is this supposed to prove? First of all,
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  why are you using evidence from fiction? This is what's really annoying about this.
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  You're using a story as evidence of what men want as a whole.
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  Well, you're using a story to demonize what men want as a whole,
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  right, and this is this is despicable. Mm hmmm, It's like it's
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  just freaking despicable. Okay, let's keep going. All right, Let's let's
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  keep going. Let's go back. All right, there we go, the
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  dark side of male desire and the backlash against you acknowledge anything else. All
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  right, here's another, here's another one. All right, I gotta I
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  gotta switch back to the cameras. So they're they're putting up X Macina.
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  Have you seen this movie? Like, I don't know what what is this
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  supposed to prove? Like, have you seen this movie? In X Makina,
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  the robot woman like kills the men and then enter society as some like
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  crazy dangerous weapon you know that has like that deciding that she wants to be
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  free. It's literally like a feminist fever dream of escaping the patriarchy as it
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  were, Yeah, it is, and then entering the world. And they're
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  and they're showing this. I don't know if they're just it just seems to
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  me like it's like you said, they're using fiction to try to make up
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  They're using fiction made up by people who believe as they do. Because the
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  guy who created this movie. His name is Alex Garland, who made X
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  Makina. I'm pretty sure he's the same guy that did that movie Men that
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  we watched and talked about, as well as this this more well you didn't
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  watch it, but as well as this recent movie that just came out called
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  Civil War. I mean the guy and Midsommer, which is I think it's
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  Mint the same guy Midsommer's actual nightmare fuel. If you want to see a
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  movie that hates men, holy crap, like it's it's terrifying, like and
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  this is a dude, right, so yeah, go ahead. I'm sartistic.
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  This is a feminist appraisal of mont what men want, based on what
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  feminists have written in popular culture about men about what men want. Yeah,
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  it's lies around lies. At no point was a man asked aside from a
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  feminist man who will, no doubt spout off the worst interpretation of what other
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  men want. Well, his identity is wrapped up around being the one good
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  man. I'm sorry about that. I don't know why my mic is,
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  why my mic is screwing up like this? Do you see the sounds changes
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  here? Yeah, your sound is changing a little bit. But yeah,
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  hopefully that'll keep that at that particular level, because it's just it drives me
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  nuts. Anyway. The point is if you did not hear it because my
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  sound was going nuts. This is syllipsistic. This is a feminist video referencing
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  the creative works, creative in quotes of other feminists to determine what men want.
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  So it's a feminist and what men want based on what other feminists have
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  written about what men want in fiction. Right off the bat. Sorry,
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  that's now I'm blowing the mic out right off the bat. This is ridiculous
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  and absurd, and yet people yeah, on its face, right, I
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  mean, the reality is is that basically like most of our media, if
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  not almost all of our media, is feminist media. So if and this
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  is the thing about feminists, academics and commentators is that they know this.
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  They have to know this. I'm going to be really complimentary and say they're
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  not stupid, they're just evil and they know that they're doing this. So
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  what they do is they take media and they can take it from anywhere because
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  it's all feminists just about, and then just point to it and say this
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  is society, and then they use it because it's all straw manning men.
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  It doesn't even like want to understand the male perspective at all. And then
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  they just put it out there like it's real, and then they critique it
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  so like it's it's exactly like feminist academia, where you know, they have
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  these academic papers and studies, they only look at one side of the equation.
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  They have all of their friends and peers in the same schools and the
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  same circles. They all look at it. They all stamp the approval.
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  They're all like, yep, this is true, and nobody challenges it.
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  There is no such thing. It's the same thing. It's just cultural,
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  like there's eating on itself. Yeah, there's like almost nothing that counters this,
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  and it gives them a bottomless hole of resources to draw from to essentially
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  plaster on men without actually trying to understand their view yep, so yep.
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  And then this becomes the apparently the general attitude of women that they think they
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  know what men want based on what feminists say men want, based on what
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  feminist writers have created in terms of fiction. M just if you are a
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  woman who's afraid of AI, yeah, stop listening to this. Listening to
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  this, you don't know what a man wants, because all men are individuals
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  who want different things, even regardless of what I appreciate home math. But
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  he sometimes I think, simplifies things while making them a little too complex,
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  strangely, And one of the things that he simplifies is that men are different.
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  They don't all want the same thing, they don't all put emphasis on
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  the same thing. They're individuals. So right off the bat, anybody who
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  says they know what men want doesn't because you can't. You can't. They're
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  individuals. And then also this he talks about she talks about in this video,
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  the dark desires of men? Do they acknowledge any other desires? Because
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  we all have dark desires, we all have weird things in our subconscious We
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  all got tentacle monsters lurking somewhere in our ambigdala, right, all of us.
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  But that doesn't mean that those are the things that drive us. So
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  where are the light desires of men? Like she's alluding to them, She's
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  saying, well, we're going to explore the dark desires in order to inculcate
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  a sense of fear in women. But what about the other desires? Let's
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  assume that all of this just refers to the so called dark desires of men.
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  Are you saying that there are no other desires except dark desires, because
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  that's not true. Even people who have dark fantasies don't bring that necessarily into
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  their relationships. It's just a dark fantasy, I would hope. So,
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  since I've seen a lot of the dark fantasies and women, and you know,
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  I'm not going to get into it, but I would prefer that those
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  women don't bring those fantasies into their love life. Say, I think there
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  is one thing that men do want from women that you can mostly generalize,
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  and that's peace. I am serious. I think we underestimate the degree to
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  which men just want peace with a woman, like they want because they got
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  a lot on their plate, as it is right, and to feel like
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  you're in a relationship and there's just like this antagonism under the surface that's created
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  by all of this noise in our culture. I think it's it's one of
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  the main reasons why men are just like, it's not worth it, man,
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  you know, I'm just gonna smoke a blunt and sit over here with
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  some mac and cheese or something. Because and watch the Sopranos because it gives
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  me peace. So anyway, let's watch some more mm hmm right, so
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  as a cautionary tale about the implications of an increasingly technological existence, proving an
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  AI is exactly as problematic as you said. To escape, she'd have to
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  use self awareness, imagination, manipulation, sexuality, empathy, and she did.
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  So why is the finbot such a man? So again feminist content to
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  do writing men and then feminists watch it and say, oh, this must
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  be men, Like do you guys know what acting is? What do you
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  know what fiction is? Can you can women tell the difference? Sometimes I
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  wonder, all right, this is West World? I didn't watch that,
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  I think I I watched a little bit of the beginning, the new Waste,
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  the more recent one, not the old g one from back in the
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  day, right, because there was one from like the sixties or seventies with
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  Yule Brenner that was the original Westworld. I never saw that either, but
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  that was from what I remember, it was pretty good. So mainstay in
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  film and TV. And what does the future hold for Let's take a deeper
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  look. Oh my god, you're a long show. Surprisingly, or I'll
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  just play the next part. Actually, maybe not that Surprisingly, the basic
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  concept of what we know as fembots actually seems to be way older than we
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  might imagine. You do something for me if I asked you? Wouldn't you?
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  I do anything you ask. Academics Kate Delvin and Olivia Belton claim that
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  the concept of fembots, or artificial women created for male gratification, dates back
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  as far as Greek mythology and the story of Pygmalion, who carved a woman
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  out of ivory and fell in love with her robe. Okay, do you
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  want to say anything about that? Or should we just keep going? This
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  section is called fembots are a surprisingly old concept. Who cares? I mean?
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  Are there not also stories of artificial like men creative for a certain purpose,
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  like the Golum or Frankenstein or the Colossus of Rhodes. Like, I
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  don't, I don't see what the point of this is, because again,
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  they're only looking at half of the equation. They're just like, oh,
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  there have been stories of artificial women, yeah, and right, yeah,
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  okay, a good point. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
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  okay, that's nice. Yes, And they've explored various themes from artificial companionship
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  to perfect soldiering to like yeah, right assassin, to consciousness and the development
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  of awareness to like what. Yes, there have been yes, indeed,
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  feminist video, there have been stories about artificial women and if they're robots,
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  are they even women? Apparently, if they're shaped by women, they're women.
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  I don't know about that. Like women, they're women? Is the
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  robot from Lost in Space that says danger danger Will Robinson? Male or female?
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  Voice sounds male, But that doesn't mean it's a male, like,
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  yes, it's I know, I feel like we're Yeah, if it's desired
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  by a man, then it's a female. It's a female robots because women
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  exist because men desire them. That must be it. I stand corrected.
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  Nova fan twenty one gave us two dollars and said feminists men have porn on
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  the brain and have developed unrealistic standards. Fembot, I do not hate men.
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  Yeah, thank you, that's it. Yeah, oh man, Okay,
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  let's keep going. All right, let's let's keep going. Switch back
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  to the sources here. Okay. Botic women feature in several novels and short
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  stories from the nineteenth and early twentieth century, such as science fiction writer Lester
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  Delray's short Helen o'loy, Augusta Vie's Future Eve, and Eta Hoffman's Der Sandman.
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  All three of these are love stories where the men at the center fall
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  in love with the fembot with sinister outcomes. But in the nineteen twenty seven
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  German film Metropolis, the fembot takes on a more political slant. Here she
• 26:07
  shows the dangerous implications of industrialization for the common German worker, and her politicization
• 26:12
  didn't end there by the I'm pausing there for the banana. Okay, I'm
• 26:19
  just thinking about remember that classic episode where Tasha Yar in Star Wars Star Trek
• 26:26
  seduces data. No, I didn't watch a lot of Star Trek. Sorry,
• 26:34
  Star Trek the set next generation, so they're no, I am fully
• 26:37
  functional, Like, how come that's not included in here? Believe me,
• 26:41
  the distaff counterpart to sexpots has been included in fiction and be considered it.
• 26:49
  Actually, you know what also in that latest I don't want to say aliens
• 26:56
  because it wasn't really it was a progenitor race. Remember that they had a
• 27:00
  male male robot that was in the woman I think fell in love with or
• 27:07
  there was some kind of suggestion about the Prometheus. Prometheus, yeah, Prometheus.
• 27:12
  So I mean this, this theme is explored in the reverse in fiction
• 27:18
  for women. And yet, like you said, there are fictional stories that
• 27:23
  have female robots something something sex slavery. You know what, I think rapidly,
• 27:33
  I think we should just take this to its logical conclusion. We don't
• 27:37
  want to make the women feel uncomfortable, So why don't we just never ever
• 27:41
  tell a story with a female shaped robot in it ever again, and have
• 27:45
  all the robots be played by men and all of the robots look masculine.
• 27:51
  I'm sure that feminists will not get upset about that. But what if you
• 27:56
  had a trans woman robot. Oh, it wouldn't be a woman anyway,
• 28:00
  because it's a robot. Like, they're not male or female, they're machines,
• 28:07
  Like they can look a certain way. But it's like, I think
• 28:11
  this is just incredibly stupid discussion because you're taking something that's genderless and then you're
• 28:21
  gendering it only for the purposes of shaming men, and then you expect me
• 28:26
  to take it seriously. And then when I say, well, because this
• 28:30
  is what they did with the Transformers, for example, you know in the
• 28:33
  Transformers. I guess there was like a show or something recently where they added
• 28:41
  like a new transformer. They were like, it's a it's a non binary
• 28:44
  transformer, and I was like, they're robots. They're all non binary.
• 28:48
  They're robots. They have male voices some of sometimes they have female voices,
• 28:53
  but they're fucking robots. Why are we talking about this because you're narcissists.
• 29:00
  You're a narcissists. You can't help it. You have to see yourself in
• 29:03
  everything. Look, look, here's a thumb drive. What gender is this?
• 29:07
  Do you want to see yourself as this? Like it's so pathetic,
• 29:11
  guys, it's so pathetic. Yeah, obviously because you put it inside your
• 29:17
  computer. It's it's just exploitation of women. I feel like this is like,
• 29:26
  this is so dumb, and these are the people that I have to
• 29:30
  argue with to like get men to be treated decently, like this is the
• 29:34
  level of discourse that we're operating at. Or I have to explain to them
• 29:38
  that a non binary transformer is redundant and stupid, like or this or like
• 29:45
  what was the other thing? Oh, yeah, there's this whole thing going
• 29:47
  on in gaming where there's this game that came out called Cellar Blade, and
• 29:52
  there's the main character is named Eve, and I think just like to be
• 29:59
  from that other game that I can't year Automata there they are machines, but
• 30:04
  they look like sexy women, but they're machines, right, And it was
• 30:10
  this whole fucking thing where they were like, they're set, they're sexualizing artificial
• 30:15
  objects that are that are you know? It was like a problem because men
• 30:18
  liked it and they tried to get it. They tried to shame people for
• 30:22
  buying it, they tried to censor the game. Finally, actually very recently,
• 30:27
  there was some some covering up of the character with some skins, and
• 30:33
  there was enough pushback that the developers reversed those changes. So good on you
• 30:38
  guys for that. But it's so dumb that we're even having this conversation like
• 30:44
  are you is this how good you have it? Do you have it so
• 30:49
  good in your life where there's no war on your doorstep, where you're where
• 30:55
  your people are not being genocided or blown up in the streets by some know,
• 31:00
  invading force, where you're you have sign up for selective service. Yeah,
• 31:03
  you don't have to selective service you know, you have you have food
• 31:07
  on your table, you have running water, you have electricity, you have
• 31:11
  internet so that you can shoot this on h cameras and your new iPhones.
• 31:15
  And you're talking about artificial characters in fictions that were made by people who agree
• 31:23
  with you politically for the purpose of shaming men. This is this is where
• 31:27
  we are, like, it is pretty funny. It's like, uh,
• 31:32
  it's so, it's like, I don't think, I don't I don't know
• 31:37
  if dumb is like a good enough word for this. It is and it
• 31:44
  is a human. It is the human or boros lips to ass all the
• 31:48
  way down and all the way back. But you know, seriously, it's
• 31:52
  like they're basically again, they're saying, this is what men want based on
• 31:56
  what feminists assume men want, which itself is a politically charged lie about men
• 32:04
  in order to gain political power. This is not proven. None of this
• 32:09
  stuff is proven. This is why she's not basing it on studies. She's
• 32:14
  basing it on other people's writing. And you notice how each of all of
• 32:17
  it, all of the fembots that she's brought up, have actually explored very
• 32:22
  different themes like consciousness, assassination, termination political themes in terms of liberation of
• 32:29
  the workers, some sexual themes like the Garross the entire landscape. And she's
• 32:35
  taking that the existence, the very existence of artificial women in fiction, and
• 32:42
  she's using that to paint what men want and then to inculcate fear in women
• 32:46
  over that. And what you want is based on again feminist appraisal of what
• 32:52
  men want. Yeah, good Lord. On top of that too, apparently
• 32:58
  women eat this up. Yeah they do, absolutely they do. And on
• 33:02
  top of that, like the science fiction community itself is heavily gate kept by
• 33:07
  people who are feminist sympathetic anyway, like guys like Isaac Asimov and shit like
• 33:13
  back in the sixties, like they were gatekeeping people who didn't share their same
• 33:19
  ideology as hard as they could. It didn't always work, but like they
• 33:22
  were trying. Like there's certainly a filter. If you want to learn more
• 33:27
  about that, there's a book called Boobs of Steel. I think it's called
• 33:30
  Boobs of Steel that was written by Jay Shiro and kat Roscha. I had
• 33:35
  him on the show and they talked about how essentially our creative culture has been
• 33:42
  heavily policed by people with feminist leanings for a long time, so like what
• 33:47
  we're getting most likely is feminist. It's just that because these things move so
• 33:54
  fast, they can look at some feminist work from the sixties and think it
• 33:59
  straight up conservative, you know, And that's why like their whole view on
• 34:02
  what conservatism even is it's so extremely distorted because it's it's a it's like straw
• 34:08
  men on top of straw men across like three generations, and they're like referring
• 34:13
  to shit that their own people did, and they're like, this is this
• 34:16
  is conservative now, And it's like, no, you're ridiculous, Like this
• 34:20
  is not. This is no one, Like you're you're referencing made up people
• 34:25
  that were made up by people like that were downstream of other made up people.
• 34:30
  That goes back like it's so it's so it's a what is it,
• 34:34
  you know, the story of the similar crum where you know, if you
• 34:37
  if you or what is it the h ship of theseus? Like where if
• 34:40
  you like take things apart enough, like how much of the original of the
• 34:46
  original idea is still there? You know. It's almost like that in our
• 34:51
  culture, in our writing. That's why everything's so garbage right now, because
• 34:55
  it's so like it's worse than AI. It's so self referential. That's why
• 35:00
  that's why they are inspiring and creative. Yeah, because we've become so uninspired
• 35:06
  and non creative. But yeah, this is like, like you said,
• 35:08
  what this comes down to is that this is generations removed from actually asking a
• 35:15
  man. In fact, I've probably never asked a man. We are looking
• 35:19
  at fiction from male feminists in like the twenties, and it's just sort of
• 35:27
  like like you said, it's just continued down. It's just become just referenced
• 35:30
  itself and referenced itself and referenced itself. Like no men were actually asked in
• 35:36
  the making of this video, like yeah, men want like men, we
• 35:40
  can't even talk about what they want. They can't even be honest about it.
• 35:45
  And Nope, Well, I mean I guess we could. I suppose
• 35:50
  Andrew Tait represents what men want. He's like the last bastion of the straw
• 35:54
  man of what men want. Like I think, honest to God, I
• 35:58
  think that he's hard officially propped up because he plays a cartoon version of a
• 36:04
  man, and they love that because yeah he is. He is the ultimate
• 36:07
  feminist version. He's what's left he's what's left of what feminists think men are
• 36:14
  after everything else has been filtered out. Well, he's the only way that
• 36:17
  men can differentiate yourself from women. You look at feminist literature, they left
• 36:23
  only that, only Andrew Tate. They basically, we can replace and feminist
• 36:28
  literature, the word man in feminist literature with Andrew Tate's face man, Andrew
• 36:32
  Tate, feminist literature. In feminist literature, this is a man. And
• 36:37
  then that's what they show young men. That's what they've been showing young men
• 36:40
  for generations. And suddenly this guy pops up saying this is how you be
• 36:44
  a man. Well, yeah, that's the feminist definition of men. Yep.
• 36:49
  And then we have and then us who have been fighting against defining men
• 36:52
  in such a narrow and limited way and making young men think that this is
• 36:57
  how you differentiate yourself from women, and actually recognizing all of the positive attributes
• 37:04
  of masculinity and all of that. We have to answer to the creation of
• 37:09
  this kind of caricaturized masculinity and feminist theory or feminist conjecture. Yep, we
• 37:16
  have to answer to their creation. No, we don't. Let's move on,
• 37:22
  all right, let's go to the next more of the video. I
• 37:25
  guess, so playing it okay. The nineteen seventies, when Ira eleven wrote
• 37:30
  his iconic novel The Stepford Wives, femmos had begun to represent something more sinister
• 37:35
  about women, and specifically men's attitudes towards them. Yes, because that was
• 37:39
  a feminist work. Yeah, Like, that's what I'm saying, but sinister
• 37:46
  attitude. Like, so, what you're saying is that this is what feminist
• 37:51
  thought men want, and we're presenting it as a cautionary tale this is bad.
• 37:58
  And then you're referencing that to say, well, this is obviously what
• 38:00
  men stop it. Yeah, right, that's what I'm saying. They're using
• 38:07
  they're using feminist work as their evidence of what men are. And it's it's
• 38:14
  ridiculous. It's like it's like ask and I mean, I hate to do
• 38:17
  it this way, but it's literally like asking the Klan to tell us about
• 38:22
  black people, you know, yeah, and what they want, right,
• 38:27
  Like it's it's but this is but the thing is we would find that absurd,
• 38:32
  but we don't find this absurd at all. Like people are just like
• 38:35
  yo, that's right, yep, all right, let's go, let's get
• 38:39
  some Christopher walking on this will give me a break, the gloomy, the
• 38:43
  satisfied woman. Then, in a very private experience between husband and wife,
• 38:50
  he gently places her in our female improvement system. At that time, we'mrink,
• 38:58
  Can we have one of those? All right? Anyway? Reacingly seeking
• 39:06
  more power, both in individual relationships and in society at large. So in
• 39:09
  The Stepford Wives, Levin explored the burgeoning backlash towards the feminist movement. I
• 39:15
  told you I messed a little bit with Women's Live in New York, didn't
• 39:20
  we. All that's a history of Michelle backrush. What what what feminists?
• 39:24
  What backlash? The bashlash? Yeah? They Well, I'm sure that The
• 39:29
  Stepford Wives is feminist propaganda of the time. I'm sure it is. And
• 39:35
  they were again, they were constructing like straw men of what men were like
• 39:38
  even then. This is this is why, this is why the idea of
• 39:44
  patriarchy of yesterday has to die, because it's built on this. It's the
• 39:47
  foundation for this crap. Yeah. Actually, watch some fifties movies. This
• 39:53
  is this is not what what is portrayed. Watched forties movies, thirties movies
• 39:59
  does a They are not like this. At all at all. I mean,
• 40:04
  Hollywood was probably always a bit like feminists friendly, you know, yeah,
• 40:09
  but well like always yeah. But at the other hand, like,
• 40:14
  how are you looking back at the fifties and saying this is what they are
• 40:16
  when you'd have no clue. We're not actually using something from the fifties.
• 40:21
  You're using something recent that is a caricature of the fifties, you know,
• 40:29
  And honestly, oh yeah, Actually women were oppressed by having a part time
• 40:38
  job that they controlled completely, like they did, they decided when they did
• 40:43
  the work. Like the guy is here going to work paying for all of
• 40:47
  the things that turn her job, her home job, into a part time
• 40:52
  existence, and that's oppression because you know, a ladies working forty hours a
• 40:57
  week with a two hour coming commute every day and I'll have those those reports
• 41:06
  you know, made up by two pm sor that is not oppression. But
• 41:12
  this is oppression. And the only thing the guy apparently wants is gratitude and
• 41:20
  to be peace an acts of service support right acts of service, which incidentally,
• 41:29
  what I've noticed is that men tend to interpret love in terms of acts
• 41:32
  of service, so they will do acts of service, often acts that the
• 41:37
  woman doesn't even notice. And maybe this is they want this because this is
• 41:42
  an active service. I mean, how about this, Go out, lady,
• 41:46
  go out and mow the lawn. Go out and fix the shingles on
• 41:50
  the roof and ash you know, fill in the potholes with asphalt. Go
• 41:55
  out and fix the sewers, you know, go out and put up the
• 42:00
  aerial antenna. You could do that too, just acts of service for the
• 42:04
  benefit of the house, the person who is the primary provider of the house.
• 42:09
  Like this is why is this so bad? Like all this is is
• 42:15
  a particular active service. Of course it's sexualized, but it's just an active
• 42:22
  service. It's just love through an active service. That's it. So horror
• 42:27
  of horrors. Men are willing to go out earn a wage to support you
• 42:34
  in what is essentially a leisure lifestyle, especially when the kids are in school,
• 42:38
  and what he wants backs is maybe the occasional recognition that you love him
• 42:43
  through an active service. That's what this is. It's character, her tries,
• 42:46
  it's stereotype, but that's what this represents. And this is women's horror
• 42:52
  that they live in a relationship with a man he gives them a lifestyle where
• 42:59
  they essentially have they are doing a part time job, have free time to
• 43:04
  do whatever they want, which was why we have the rise of feminism and
• 43:07
  soap operas. No, and in return he asks for expressions of love in
• 43:14
  the usual way that men express their love, which is acts of service.
• 43:17
  This is this is what's condemned, is it. Yeah? This actually says
• 43:22
  more about the feminists who are presenting it as evil than it does men.
• 43:29
  Yep, all right, see that guy's going out and he is doing the
• 43:36
  yes sir, I'll have that purport done by two pm? Yes sir,
• 43:37
  how do you like your yes? Sir? I'll get that. You know
• 43:40
  he's doing that, He is taking the direct orders. He is experiencing the
• 43:46
  dehumanization of the modern workplace, where a person only gets control over part of
• 43:52
  a product. If that right. He is experiencing that so she doesn't have
• 43:58
  to. And in the fifty in the forties, most likely he lived through
• 44:00
  experiencing war, so she doesn't have to. That's not even considered in this
• 44:06
  equation, not at all. Yeah. Okay, all right, so I
• 44:10
  got some super chats. ZARX gives us five bucks and says, wonder woman
• 44:15
  is the sophisticated man's femba. And then Albert Data retro gives us five dollars
• 44:22
  Canadian and says, the Klan didn't did tell us about blacks. It's in
• 44:25
  the documentary Birth of a Nation, right, that was a true story.
• 44:29
  Right. Where is Stepford asking for a friend? All right? So let
• 44:32
  us continue. If the modern white nationalists referenced Birth of a Nation to explain
• 44:38
  to us what black people want, yeah, exactly it is. But the
• 44:43
  other thing is that it was It would also be like if Birth of the
• 44:46
  Nation was just like black people doing their thing and saying, hey, can
• 44:50
  we have a living wage? Rape that it actually was so like legitimate things
• 44:54
  that black people at the time wanted, you know, yeah, right,
• 44:59
  living way, you know that kind of thing, although yes, there was
• 45:01
  a lot of race baiting even back then. I mean it would mean is
• 45:06
  if Birth of a Nation actually presented legitimate grievances by black communities, and then
• 45:12
  the modern white nationalists or ku Klux Klan looked at that and said, hey,
• 45:15
  look at how horrible that is. My god, you know, this
• 45:20
  man wants some consideration from the person that he sacrifices for so she can have
• 45:24
  a part time job, right, she he wants some acts of service from
• 45:29
  the person who he's taken care of, some demonstration of love. I mean
• 45:35
  that, Like I said, this is sexualized, but it's still not really
• 45:39
  that offensive. It isn't. And the problem is that there are women who
• 45:44
  look at this and say, oh my god, that's so offensive. It
• 45:46
  isn't It isn't that offensive giving your man a foot rub after he's had twelve
• 45:53
  hours in the fucking minds to make sure that you don't have to go down
• 45:59
  and do it. It's not offensive. Yeah, it's not offensive. Well,
• 46:06
  and once again they're being really selective about like the men as they are
• 46:09
  represented, because this looks like he's like a high status man, but like
• 46:15
  most men are not this guy. So again this is like, you know,
• 46:21
  going back to the home math thing. You know, not people.
• 46:24
  The men who are not people are not the men these women are complaining about.
• 46:29
  So all right, here's the other thing, Like they're already in this
• 46:31
  position now because they are all going after the high status men. Yes,
• 46:36
  it's like a couple dozen women per man, high status men on these daity
• 46:40
  caps, Like, yeah, you're gonna have to behave like this in order
• 46:45
  to keep his interest. Yep, okay, okay bro Rights. Levin dramatized
• 46:50
  women's suburban alienation and men's resistance to feminists change, rating a world where a
• 46:54
  man would rather kill his wife and replace her with a robot. Then can
• 46:59
  happened quality and recognize her as a whole person? No idea? Okay,
• 47:06
  recognize her as a whole person. Then she does. Like, here's the
• 47:10
  issue these robots. Why are they giving them money to go shopping? Like
• 47:16
  I mean, if I had a robot, right, I wouldn't give it
• 47:21
  money to go shopping or sit at home. I get it to be doing
• 47:24
  all the shit that I don't want to do, like fixing the plumbing.
• 47:30
  Are you like having a nanny or a maid? Well not even like,
• 47:32
  why would you even do that? Like, oh yeah, sure this woman,
• 47:37
  it's okay, how proficient is she? We need our roof shingled?
• 47:39
  Could she do that? Because that would be something that we like, I
• 47:44
  don't. Jonathan doesn't want to go up. He's like Jonathan's my husband.
• 47:46
  He's a little afraid of heights. I don't want to go up because I'm
• 47:49
  also afraid of heights. You know, would she do it? Like?
• 47:52
  Could we get the fembot, like, strip all this crap off, because
• 47:55
  I don't give a fuck of what she looks like. But just put her
• 47:58
  in some overalls and get her up on the roof, fixing my roof,
• 48:01
  you know, you know, get her up, go out and fix the
• 48:05
  do some gardening, right, like, do actual work. Why is it
• 48:08
  that these fembots are doing leisure activities like the men are buying these things to
• 48:16
  allow them to shop and hang around at home doing what not labor? Like
• 48:25
  why why would you? Why would you do that? You know what I'm
• 48:29
  saying, Brian Like, yeah, yeah, no, I understand. But
• 48:34
  again, you you can't make but you can't make the political feminist point you
• 48:37
  want to make if you actually apply like the logic of building of having a
• 48:43
  humanoid robot, you know, like and actually wanting to like make a good
• 48:47
  use of it. So insad because you can't make commentary. If you do
• 48:52
  that, then it's just like tuck pointing, you know, or or building
• 48:55
  you a new deck, And it's not like doing like the things that feminists
• 49:00
  think women should absolutely dread, like shopping and cooking and doing makeup and hair,
• 49:07
  Yeah, do hair and makeup? Ad days, you know, like,
• 49:10
  what is the premise here that these guys exchange their wives for presumably robots
• 49:20
  that don't work, because I think their wives worked and these robots don't work
• 49:23
  or something like they don't make money, which seems like a real net loss
• 49:29
  to the household there. Yeah, right to exchange it for a robot that
• 49:31
  can work twenty four hours a day, you know, like and make more
• 49:36
  money. Like just be like, yeah, I'm going to replace my architect
• 49:38
  wife with an architect sect architect bot who can work twelve twenty four hours a
• 49:44
  day. Right, But here's the thing what they're saying is they're exchanging.
• 49:47
  These men are exchanging these bots or these their wives for bots who they are
• 49:55
  basically allowing to have significant leisure time, go to spa days and shop.
• 50:01
  You don't do that. Why why the hell would you would you give an
• 50:06
  autonomous creature like a why would why would you give a nonsenient robot like like
• 50:14
  a foot massage or like a treat Like why would you treat it to a
• 50:16
  spa day? Because she's obviously very well made up, she does her you
• 50:20
  know everything, you know, she looks beautiful clothing. So her husband is
• 50:25
  treating her to all of this, and she's a robot who can't experience anything.
• 50:31
  The reason why men wanted to do this for women is because they thought
• 50:37
  that women appreciated the leisure, the opportunity to look good, have a hope,
• 50:44
  cuchure, you know, shop, and all of this other stuff.
• 50:46
  That's why men do this, because they want to make women happy. And
• 50:52
  from what I can tell from TikTok, these are activities that make a lot
• 50:54
  of women happy, and yet now they have to pay for them themselves instead
• 51:00
  of having a man pay for them. It's fascinating, is it? Yep?
• 51:05
  Okay, all right, back to the video. There'll be somebody with
• 51:10
  my name and she'll cook and clean like crazy, but she won't take pictures,
• 51:15
  and she won't be me. She'll she'll she'll be like one of those
• 51:24
  robots in Disneyland. In her main character, Theodore, is going through a
• 51:29
  divorce and experiencing extreme loneliness and disassociation from other people. He falls in love
• 51:34
  with an Aika. Wait wait yeah, but the only thing that the only
• 51:38
  thing that men really want from women from what I can tell you, like
• 51:42
  from having actually talked to men, Because of all of the people in this
• 51:46
  of course you could ask Brian, but we don't ask men what they want,
• 51:52
  all right. But but like the individual who wrote this this script has
• 51:58
  not asked men what they want for her. Yeah, and the end they
• 52:01
  are citing feminist literature on what they think men want. Yes, men did
• 52:09
  this. They allowed women to have the homemaker role because they thought it would
• 52:15
  make women happy. Okay, right, that's why they did it. And
• 52:22
  in fact, if you actually listen to men of the time period, they
• 52:25
  know that they have the shit role. They know it, but they want
• 52:30
  women to be happy. They want women to have the leisure, they want
• 52:34
  women to have the material goods. They want women to have the spa days.
• 52:37
  They want women to be able to pursue whatever creative or inspirational interest that
• 52:42
  they have. They wanted women to be happy. That's why they allowed for
• 52:45
  that role, or that they sacrifice for that role. That's what these guys
• 52:50
  wanted. And they on some level must have known that getting up at six
• 52:55
  in the morning to do a two hour commute to subjugate or to be submissive
• 53:01
  to another man for a paycheck is not fun. It's actually a sacrifice,
• 53:09
  or even worse, going and doing labor dangerous labor for a paycheck is a
• 53:14
  sacrifice. But they did it because they wanted their women to be happy.
• 53:21
  You know, That's it. And this is presenting this idea that men want
• 53:29
  something. What the hell? Like, what is it that men would want
• 53:32
  from these bots? Like what I'm getting at is when you look at that,
• 53:37
  they're giving these bots all of this wonderful experience and being able to shop
• 53:42
  and have leisure time and be pampered and take care of themselves. But for
• 53:47
  what when a bot doesn't experience things. The reason why they did this was
• 53:52
  so that they could make their women happy. And you know, maybe that
• 53:55
  didn't make women happy, and obviously didn't because they see do not want that
• 54:01
  or they do now because of the soft girl era, I guess. But
• 54:07
  it's like there's something missing in all of this and all of this analysis.
• 54:14
  All right, I feel like I'm losing you because I'm getting No, I'm
• 54:16
  just I'm kind of like, I think we're on another thing now. So
• 54:22
  now we're talking about her. Have you ever seen her? No? I
• 54:28
  don't, so yeah, so I saw it. It's about this guy who's
• 54:32
  in the middle of a divorce. Wait wait, wait, and he starts
• 54:36
  a relationship with an artificial intelligence on his phone. And it's not like I
• 54:43
  don't know how they're going to do this. But he's the character that's really
• 54:47
  sad. Like he's pathetic in this movie. He's actually frustrating because he falls
• 54:52
  head over heels for this thing that's just a voice that talks to him,
• 54:57
  and all it says is is that, Okay, So what you're saying,
• 55:00
  if there was a woman who would just listen and be compassionate, he would
• 55:02
  be thrilled. But those women don't exist, and no man deserves that.
• 55:07
  That's kind of what the message of the movie is. But let's hear what
• 55:12
  this person has to say. I want to see how the machine is oppressed
• 55:16
  by this lonely dude. The actually the woman that I've been seeing Samantha,
• 55:22
  I didn't tell you, but es nous. Really I feel really close to
• 55:28
  her, Like when I talk to her, I feel like she's with me,
• 55:30
  you know. The film explores the problems of using AI as a stand
• 55:35
  in for human partners. Samantha doesn't understand Theodore's need for a monogamous relationship,
• 55:39
  while Theodore's ex wife sees his developing relationship with an operating system as symptomatic of
• 55:45
  his inability to engage with the messiness of human relationships. What let's just let's
• 55:52
  just get through this section because I have to switch scenes so that you can
• 55:57
  talk and we get the vertical set up. Let's see. So, although
• 56:00
  Theodore is seemingly a gentle, harmless man, her highlights the genuine misogynistic reasons
• 56:06
  behind fembots, the idea that women's independence and complexity makes them less appealing or
• 56:12
  more difficult to love if you want more of else's hurt. All right now,
• 56:16
  I think we can probably talk about that. So men wanting peace is
• 56:22
  what I said before, is a problem because women should be allowed to just
• 56:30
  bring chaos into men's lives and men can't have an opinion on that. So
• 56:35
  because if you do, if you're like, could you please just chill the
• 56:37
  fuck out? Like that's misogynistic, Like standards for men standards is misogynistic.
• 56:46
  That's what I think it's getting at the at the end of the day,
• 56:50
  what does this messy mean that I don't know? Like they're moody and angry
• 56:58
  and combative, and they that's what it means. What this individual is saying
• 57:04
  is it's misogynists to expect a woman who is an abusive It's misogynists to expect
• 57:09
  a woman who genuinely takes an interest in you. It's misogynists to expect a
• 57:15
  woman who treats you with consideration. Yeah, it's misogynists to expect even a
• 57:22
  crumb of what women should expect from their relationships because of all that. Oh,
• 57:28
  if he doesn't respect you, now, not even if he doesn't love
• 57:30
  you, if he doesn't appreciate, if he doesn't respect you. According to
• 57:34
  the latest TikTok challenge, you know, get rid of him. But you're
• 57:37
  supposed to tolerate what she terms as messy, which means what what is the
• 57:44
  saying like, if you don't if you can't handle me at my worst,
• 57:46
  you don't deserve me at my best. It's that right, mm hmm,
• 57:51
  It's we're a mess, but you have to deal with it. Do you
• 57:54
  don't deserve my love bombing? Essentially? Yeah? All right, all right,
• 58:00
  let's go back to this for make sure to check out our Patreon exclusive
• 58:06
  Total Take video. Interestingly, in many ways, this man falling in love
• 58:09
  with his virtual assistant narrative is like an update of the nineteen fifties and sixties
• 58:14
  trope of men falling for their secretaries, and he's smiling like a fool,
• 58:17
  like he's the first man that ever married a secretary. There, the men
• 58:21
  in question invariably lose interest when they realized the helpful, available woman they fell
• 58:24
  in love with at the office actually has opinions and takes up space once they
• 58:30
  bring her home. So, oh god, this is another feminist stereotype about
• 58:35
  what men do. Yeah, it's mad men. Is literally that? Like
• 58:38
  it's like the show is not there. Yeah, they're talking about mad men.
• 58:45
  Yeah, talk about the history. The actual man that Don Draper was
• 58:50
  based on, or allegedly based on. He ended up marrying a fellow ad
• 58:55
  executive who he worked with as an equal or at least as as a person
• 59:01
  with substantial skills a skill set, and their their courtship in marriage was actually
• 59:08
  quite egalitarian. So, in other words, we are looking at a feminist
• 59:14
  distortion of something that actually happened in history by Don Draper. I think is
• 59:20
  they they took his name. I don't remember his original name, but it's
• 59:22
  something similar to Draper. They took his name, and they did not actually
• 59:30
  represent his relationship. The actual relationship he had and they didn't recognize that he
• 59:37
  had a relationship with another ad executive and they had a very egalutarian relationship.
• 59:45
  So this is a feminis Once again, this is a feminist fiction that feminists
• 59:47
  are making men answer to. Yeah, thing I made up. They made
• 59:53
  it up. And then and then they say there's this trope like like that
• 59:59
  means it's what history. No, it's literally a storytelling trope that you have
• 1:00:05
  used over and over until it became real in your head, and then you
• 1:00:08
  reference it like it's real and you're like, look at how bad things were.
• 1:00:13
  No, that didn't happen. You know, it's going to be a
• 1:00:17
  very short response. Okay, every time you bring something up that they just
• 1:00:22
  made up about men, let's point out that that's actually abusive towards men.
• 1:00:28
  Looking about them and demonizing them is abusive towards men. It is a lie
• 1:00:31
  about men that you made up. Yeah, and once again, if you
• 1:00:36
  make things up like oh, this is how Don Draper really was, you
• 1:00:39
  are promoting a particular view of manhood and you're telling young men this is how,
• 1:00:45
  this is how men are, This is how you differentiate yourself from women.
• 1:00:49
  These are the qualities you can have to differentiate yourself from women, and
• 1:00:52
  people will choose a negative identity over no identity. And you are giving young
• 1:00:58
  men no identity except for this caricature you've made out of manhood feminist. And
• 1:01:04
  what a surprise. You have constructed the very thing that you now point to
• 1:01:08
  as evidence of the very thing. Yep, Okay, let's keep going,
• 1:01:14
  all right, let's keep going. So on screen, the programmable fembot is
• 1:01:16
  the next logical step for men who want full control. But even within these
• 1:01:22
  narratives where the finnbot is essentially programmed just to be that ideal, perfect,
• 1:01:25
  doting, always available woman, things often don't work out like the men had
• 1:01:30
  hoped. Yeah, like men who have constructed this situation where women have substantial
• 1:01:37
  leisure time, they're not taking the brunt of the actual providership of the home
• 1:01:39
  anymore. So they have leisure time, they can take care of themselves,
• 1:01:43
  they can pursue fashion, they can pursue whatever creative interest they want. And
• 1:01:47
  what men wanted in return was maybe some kindness of acts of service related to
• 1:01:52
  love, that kind of thing. Oh my god, we's just thinking of
• 1:02:01
  your smile and you're after shade I realized I can do better. Her explores
• 1:02:12
  what could happen if these machines develop agency, which, for Theodore makes them
• 1:02:15
  just as problematic and scary as real women, because if they have agency,
• 1:02:20
  they might lead. But in the grand scheme of fembot stories, Her is
• 1:02:23
  nowhere near as terrifying as it could be. Mars Attacks. He fell in
• 1:02:31
  love with Mars Attacks? Are you freaking kidding me? Oh god, it's
• 1:02:42
  it's not a robots, It's literally a Martian in disguise again using this the
• 1:02:49
  what Like the Martians observe the humans and they're like, oh, the human
• 1:02:52
  men, you know, they're vulnerable to women's like feminine wiles. Let's have
• 1:02:57
  one dress up like a woman and go to the White House to try to
• 1:03:00
  assassinate the president, and we'll use the super lecturist guy to get in there.
• 1:03:06
  Like it's like, I don't, like, what point are you trying
• 1:03:08
  to make? Do you watch these movies or do you just look for like
• 1:03:13
  the surface level shit and like, oh, that that should work. That'll
• 1:03:16
  that'll put some buttons on a woman with a soft brain watching this shit.
• 1:03:22
  Sorry, it's just it's so woman with a soft brain. Yeah, that's
• 1:03:25
  yeah, yeah, right, that is the market for this crap. I
• 1:03:30
  just wanted to see. You're just a woman with a small brain, with
• 1:03:32
  a brain a third the size of us. It's science. I just I
• 1:03:38
  was watching because I watched her and I found out how it ended. She
• 1:03:44
  ended up having like, I don't know, nine hundred relationships with other people
• 1:03:49
  her. Yeah, she was like an AI, so she was all over
• 1:03:52
  the place multitasking relationships. Yeah, and she he thought it was exclusive,
• 1:03:58
  but like, I don't think that men today are allowed to demand exclusivity from
• 1:04:02
  women. I think no, that's what But that was the point of her
• 1:04:06
  though, is that like, you can't like, men can't have expectations.
• 1:04:12
  So like it's literally analogous to today because a woman's body count is something you're
• 1:04:16
  not supposed to have a problem with, right, But the only reason is
• 1:04:19
  because feminists like promote promiscuity in women to do whatever they want, and then
• 1:04:26
  they do. And then after that, feminists also tell women, well,
• 1:04:30
  you you shouldn't like you, you should be allowed to like yeah, and
• 1:04:33
  tell men that they're not allowed to have an opinion on it and that women
• 1:04:36
  can choose to settle down at fifty or sixty if they want to and men
• 1:04:41
  can't deny them, so like they're creating this problem and it's inappropriate for or
• 1:04:45
  it's actually illegitimate or immoral for men to deny women or have preference over who
• 1:04:50
  they want to date. Like, yeah, okay, let's keep going,
• 1:04:55
  all right, just switch back to the sources. Pass through here, now
• 1:05:00
  we're passing through there. Just no, you're very grace. I like that.
• 1:05:09
  In Fear Itself, horror on screen and in reality during the depression in
• 1:05:13
  World War Two, Melvanie Matthews writes about how contemporary societal feared Sorry for the
• 1:05:20
  record, Martians are sexless. Okay, they're sexless. They include like a
• 1:05:28
  Martian dressed up as a woman in fembo. I don't know. But the
• 1:05:31
  Martians, from what I can tell, they're sexless. So anyway, are
• 1:05:36
  often they just love murder horror films. So, for example, in the
• 1:05:40
  nineteen twenties, thirties, and forties, when there was a fear of invasion
• 1:05:43
  in the United States, foreign vampiric women and inhuman female monsters emerged. I
• 1:05:51
  don't think that those old movies were about invasion. I think that those movies,
• 1:05:59
  like they were based on books and the books we're talking about other things.
• 1:06:01
  Like Dracula, from what I understand, was actually written by Bram Stoker,
• 1:06:06
  who was homosexual, and he was concerned about STDs, and so this
• 1:06:11
  was like his way of talking about that. Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was about
• 1:06:17
  something about playing god maybe, and she was also like really like you know,
• 1:06:23
  she went off to like do orgies with Lord Byron, and I don't
• 1:06:27
  know, there was something about that too, but it's not it. I
• 1:06:30
  think she's oversimplifying this stuff. So and the Wolfman and is like doctor Jeckel,
• 1:06:35
  mister Hyde, like that's like, you know, like if you just
• 1:06:39
  give into the id and you just like live out your desires. That The
• 1:06:43
  Wolfman is about like predatory male sexuality ultimately not really a pro male story.
• 1:06:53
  It is a horror story. It's a cautionary story. So but anyway,
• 1:06:59
  all right, she's a lion. Women in particular make an especially uneasy canvas
• 1:07:05
  on which to project fears. It's jarring to see the female form, something
• 1:07:10
  that society associates with pleasure or motherhood, become the site of danger. It
• 1:07:15
  makes sense that as technology progresses and increasingly replaces people, the woman in question
• 1:07:19
  has become technological, So the fembot is often a disturbing creation, though she
• 1:07:25
  looks like the perfect human, for lack of humanity is played upon to incite
• 1:07:30
  fear among viewers. Do you want oh sorry, okay, did you want
• 1:07:38
  to say something about that? All right? So what what is the male
• 1:07:43
  body considered the site of Oh, we're not going to talk about that side
• 1:07:45
  of it. They talk about okay, ah, remember you remember the movie
• 1:07:50
  speaking of which, weren't there there were a couple of movies. There was
• 1:07:53
  one called Making miss or right, came on the eighties, and then there
• 1:07:57
  was wasn't there one called I don't know if this was a man though mannequin.
• 1:08:02
  These are eighties movies, you know, the weird science Like, I
• 1:08:09
  know that was a woman, but like, what was a plot of that?
• 1:08:13
  I thought it was about these guys learning how to like talk to women
• 1:08:16
  or whatever build a relationship with a woman. One that they created was actually
• 1:08:19
  smarter than them and more world yeah worldwise, yeah, yeah, right,
• 1:08:24
  right, yeah, but they're not going to talk about that. That's not
• 1:08:27
  convenient. We got to talk about Stepford wives, and then we got to
• 1:08:30
  make Stepford wives as a concept fit into everything else and then make a global
• 1:08:33
  conversation about it from the Stepford Wives perspective, because Stepford Wives was made by
• 1:08:40
  feminists and it referenced feminist work, and it's everything else is downstream from that,
• 1:08:45
  So that must be the truth because enough people believe it. Mm hmm.
• 1:08:49
  Anyway, let's keep it. Destroy humans, say, okay, I
• 1:08:54
  will destroy humans. As we discussed sn our video and film fatales. In
• 1:08:58
  horror and sci fi, bots are often eerily beautiful, almost like caricatures of
• 1:09:02
  women designed to elicit a seble response from those are actual actress to the idiots,
• 1:09:09
  right, yeah, oh what's her name? From Blade Rudder? I
• 1:09:15
  forget her name, but she's gorgeous. That's why they chose her. Like,
• 1:09:19
  But you know, these people don't like attractive women, apparently, especially
• 1:09:23
  if, if, especially if men also find them attractive. That's really what
• 1:09:29
  it comes down to. Yeah, I know. In the giving something up
• 1:09:35
  or getting into a dangerous situation? Did you design a face based on my
• 1:09:39
  pornography profile? In More's attacks, the aliens observe that human men are sexually
• 1:09:44
  motivated enough to put the entire country at risk, so they create a lethal
• 1:09:47
  fimbot and prove it, can we get that gum out of your mouth?
• 1:10:00
  Interestingly, you know, interesting how the level of violence inflicted on men for
• 1:10:04
  their sexual desires is never commented upon by this, Like does that say anything
• 1:10:10
  about our society about how it condemns men's sexual desires? Like he just got
• 1:10:17
  his finger bitten off? Of course he was, well, he gets he
• 1:10:20
  gets killed too, and he gets killed and this is this is something that
• 1:10:24
  seems to happen a lot, like men get punished for having sexual desires.
• 1:10:29
  So this man in her got punished for having an AI girlfriend. The men
• 1:10:35
  in Stepford wives, I believe, end up getting punished for that. So
• 1:10:39
  that does this not go into your analysis of what our social attitude is like
• 1:10:44
  if we were perfectly happy with men having their fantasy woman, which I don't
• 1:10:48
  know, just seems to be happy and grateful, you know, like an
• 1:10:55
  AI and a sex bot can't experience the feelings of happiness or gratitude, so
• 1:11:00
  you know, there's no real point. But like, ultimately they don't talk
• 1:11:04
  about what that says that we see we seem to be very satisfied with punishing
• 1:11:11
  men for their sexuality and their sexual desires. Yeah, we're not going to
• 1:11:15
  comment on that, all right, but let's keep going all right, in
• 1:11:19
  our horror in sci fi incarnation, the fimbot often has superhuman strength and is
• 1:11:25
  able to hurt men physically in a way that human women might not be able
• 1:11:29
  to. Fimbots bring with them the underlying threat of physical violence that in reality
• 1:11:33
  women often experience around men poning in on this type what what here? So
• 1:11:42
  again feminist content. Feminist content is created as a power fantasy when they do
• 1:11:48
  these like artificial women, And I would say that it's you know, even
• 1:11:53
  though like the reference Blade Runner and Terminator three, I would argue that Ridley
• 1:11:57
  Scott at uh and the ever directed internative to you, obviously they were they're
• 1:12:01
  feminists too, Like they were just indulging in the power fantasy. But when
• 1:12:04
  the power fantasy happens, you still have to somehow, you still have to
• 1:12:09
  somehow make this about men victimizing women, even when they're you're showing us women
• 1:12:15
  victimizing men, Like even when you're showing it to us, you're like,
• 1:12:17
  yeah, but actually in real life it's it's just like this, but reverse
• 1:12:21
  yeah, because in real life there are like male replicants with superhuman strength fucking
• 1:12:27
  hurricane rona ing their their their partners, right, that's totally happening. Oh
• 1:12:31
  my god, Well, all right, that they're not. They're not.
• 1:12:35
  They're not admitting to the obvious, which is that these fembots function as female
• 1:12:42
  power fantasies. They have sexual power and they have physical power. They have
• 1:12:47
  all of it, and that's a power fantasy. These are not men fantasizing
• 1:12:55
  about women. These are women fantasizing about men and the kind of power apparently
• 1:13:00
  they want to have over men, which is complete sexual power and physical power.
• 1:13:06
  Yeah, let's be honest. And then this, this, this entire
• 1:13:11
  video has nothing to do with what men want, as far as I can
• 1:13:15
  tell, or what men want from women, and everything to do with what
• 1:13:18
  feminists think men want from women and feminist power fantasies that involve having power over
• 1:13:27
  men, raping them, harming them, and killing them as revenge for what
• 1:13:33
  they what they allege happens so much in reality, which it doesn't like it
• 1:13:41
  doesn't. Yeah, yeah, okay, And they still essentially what they do
• 1:13:45
  with these like sex, these fembots. This is how the essay addresses them,
• 1:13:51
  even though there's it's not as simple as that but there's still the victims
• 1:13:57
  of men, even though they're technically not even women. They're just like they're
• 1:14:00
  an avatar. They're a symbol of womanhood, womanhood in their eyes or anyway.
• 1:14:08
  Back to the video, he rope Walk Journalists Only Knew It's writes that
• 1:14:12
  perhaps the fembot Talua resides in her ability to walk the line between total obedience
• 1:14:16
  and unfathomable power. In other words, she tutilates men by finally showing them
• 1:14:23
  what it's like to be physically vulnerable, which, while scary, adds to
• 1:14:27
  her eroticism. But it all that sounds like a fetish thing. I don't
• 1:14:33
  think that's most men. But of course you guys don't talk to actual men,
• 1:14:36
  so you don't know. You're just making shit up. So this is
• 1:14:40
  just more there's no point answering to it because they're just making shit up.
• 1:14:45
  This entire video is men. I made ship up about them. Yeah,
• 1:14:50
  this is like serious midwind content. Okay. Also allows the fembot to avenge
• 1:14:56
  the human women she was created to replace modern day media. While the men
• 1:15:01
  have a fantasy about being avenged like or having women avenge themselves on them,
• 1:15:10
  and if they're going to show the robot Chick from Jason X just everything that
• 1:15:15
  men apparently want. They want a woman who rubs their feet, Like who
• 1:15:20
  doesn't want that. They want a they want a woman who they can send
• 1:15:27
  out to do shopping and all that kind of stuff so that they can give
• 1:15:31
  they can give leisure. They've created a bot, a robot in order to
• 1:15:36
  give it leisure time, the ability to spend their money and spot is which
• 1:15:44
  Okay, they want a a AI that makes them feel like they're listened to,
• 1:15:50
  but they don't want it to have relationships with like nine hundred other people
• 1:15:54
  because that sort of you know it, it breaks the fiction. It breaks
• 1:16:00
  the illusion, shall we say? All right? And now they want fembots
• 1:16:03
  who are super powerful because that's titillating. But they also want those fembots to
• 1:16:08
  avenge themselves all women on them. So there's a lot of like really bizarre
• 1:16:14
  things that they're alleging men want. Except for the rubbing your feets, I
• 1:16:17
  think everybody likes that. Well, it depends on I mean, if it's
• 1:16:23
  not violent. Yeah, all right, back to exactly that's the presumption you're
• 1:16:27
  just having a foot run. Yeah, who does it like that? Than
• 1:16:33
  wild in other narratives, she's reincarnated again. The Other Black Girl, for
• 1:16:38
  example, is a comment on race in publishing drawn from author is A Kia
• 1:16:42
  Dalia Harris's own experiences in the industry. Main character Nelle isn't the only black
• 1:16:46
  woman working at a literary agency, and when another black woman, Hazel starts,
• 1:16:50
  all is not as it seems. Hazel is a fembot, and the
• 1:16:55
  message is that in order to function. Oh oh so, yeah, that's
• 1:16:58
  totally her lived experience. There was another woman looks like me at the workplace,
• 1:17:02
  but she was hostile. This isn't saying anything about my ego. This
• 1:17:08
  is clearly just me making an observation. And she was artificial too, probably
• 1:17:13
  a product of the white man. This is so retarded. This is you
• 1:17:16
  are retarded. You are obviously engaging in Yeah, like you said, you're
• 1:17:23
  engaging in female competition, and you're blaming it on the men that built the
• 1:17:28
  fucking company that you have the privilege of working at and progress in a majority
• 1:17:34
  white industry, Black people and more specifically, black women have to publish SHOs.
• 1:17:40
  Are you sure these are these people? Are white culture serious? This
• 1:17:44
  is ridiculous. I mean, I think this is like just dumb. Go
• 1:17:49
  ahead, Okay, so yeah, I guess so I've never heard of this,
• 1:17:54
  but ne neither of I let's keep you know what, let's skip this
• 1:17:56
  part. Who cares? All right, let's go, Let's get to the
• 1:17:58
  next bit. That's fine. I'm not really feeling that one anyway. He
• 1:18:02
  who are Meghan? SE's an AI doll created to be friend children and help
• 1:18:05
  their parents develop a mind of its own. What did you think was going
• 1:18:10
  to happen? I was gonna let you decommission you without even talking about it.
• 1:18:14
  Much of the film's terror comes from the fact that, while we might
• 1:18:16
  not be commissioning robots to look after our kids just yet, there is an
• 1:18:20
  increasing use of tech in the parent child relationship, from the ever present screen
• 1:18:25
  time to GPS tracking, And while all of these technologies on their face sound
• 1:18:30
  like the answer to so many problems, they actually create a lot of issues
• 1:18:33
  of their own. Yeah, it sounds like there should probably be like I
• 1:18:40
  don't know a parent around. Yeah. From what I'm getting from Megan is
• 1:18:46
  that the mother uses this child to occupy her child, and that that that
• 1:18:51
  creature ends up becoming violent. I've never seen the movie, but I'm not
• 1:18:56
  exactly sure what that message that's supposed to be. You know, I think
• 1:18:59
  this is just like general women who are synthetic in film. Maybe get to
• 1:19:05
  a conclusion here, let's get to the end. Oh. Actually, you
• 1:19:08
  know what the previous one I think had Westworld. I've actually watched that,
• 1:19:12
  So maybe we should go back. But not the megan, not the part
• 1:19:14
  with the oh editorial competition between two black women World? All right? I
• 1:19:20
  got a super chat from Zara Anks. He says, maybe the reason why
• 1:19:24
  it's scary is being having that kind of strength without the concept of how much
• 1:19:28
  is too much as most men figure out, I mean maybe four men,
• 1:19:33
  yes, but uh, okay, so we're gonna go back to I don't
• 1:19:38
  know, just do the West World. I'll tell you when it's yeah,
• 1:19:40
  there you go go right here, a little further back, or just just
• 1:19:44
  start playing in the arms of his sister Alice Walker. And what was that
• 1:19:50
  Alice Walker? Okay? She wrote the color Alice Walkers Trust. Where's the
• 1:20:00
  West World's another Fimbot narrative that explores races. Right here me from West World
• 1:20:03
  who experiences mindless violence at the hands of wealthy white game players. Her story
• 1:20:09
  analyzes though, one step forward, two steps back march of progress as she
• 1:20:13
  continually evolves her consciousness or escapes, only to be captured and thus having to
• 1:20:18
  begin her journey to agency a new Meanwhile, all right, well that was
• 1:20:24
  cringe, thank you. I actually mean in West but the but the idea
• 1:20:30
  of killing the robots in West World, it wasn't just that one. It
• 1:20:34
  was like you could do it wherever you always won. It was like living
• 1:20:39
  out of fantasy. They were robots, like that was the point. It's
• 1:20:43
  like interactive fucking junkie cheese or you know, or five Guy five nights at
• 1:20:48
  Freddy's. It's like you're taking fiction where people are are at least a tempting
• 1:20:56
  to explore something, and you're basically saying, well, here's why that's problematic.
• 1:21:00
  Oh I wonder why all of our media is shit right now? I
• 1:21:04
  wonder why mm hmm. Well, okay, so they didn't go into Westworld
• 1:21:10
  much, but you're actually exactly right. You could kill anybody, including the
• 1:21:12
  men, which they did a lot of, and in fact, when they
• 1:21:15
  actually started killing people that couldn't be revived, it was men just doing their
• 1:21:19
  job. But we weren't going to mark on that because you know, it's
• 1:21:23
  men when we don't care about Yes, that doesn't work. Yeah, that's
• 1:21:26
  really funny because ultimately this entire video demonstrates an unexpressed bias, which is that
• 1:21:35
  men are expendable. Justifies it by saying, well, men are demons.
• 1:21:42
  But the other thing is that in it and then it has a pathological inability
• 1:21:46
  to recognize what men actually want. But let's let's get into the final commentary.
• 1:21:53
  Let's see whatever got to go back to Megan or just go to the
• 1:21:56
  last bit. Just go to the last bit, because okay, all right,
• 1:22:00
  so let me just switch to the sources together. Not all current representations
• 1:22:03
  of the finnbot have a negative spin, though some are interested in looking at
• 1:22:08
  how humans and bots could work together in a positive way when both the bots
• 1:22:12
  and the humans are allowed their own agency in the good place. What agency
• 1:22:16
  mean? Just stop for a second, all right, what does she mean
• 1:22:20
  by agency? Here? Okay? Because the way I've realized that I think
• 1:22:28
  I have a fundamental disconnect between how I understand agency and how perhaps the average
• 1:22:33
  woman, as represented by the audience of stuff like this, understands agency.
• 1:22:39
  Because for me, agency means my choices and actions have consequences, so they
• 1:22:45
  matter like they have an effect in the greater world, you know. And
• 1:22:50
  it seems to me that for other women, agency means I can make any
• 1:22:56
  choice without consequence, which that's not the case. So in this circumstance,
• 1:23:04
  what their meaning I'm guessing agency is the ability to make your own choices.
• 1:23:10
  Well, that's fine, but there's more to agency than just having the ability
• 1:23:14
  to make your own choices and having an unimpeded ability to make your own choices.
• 1:23:17
  So, if you make a choice A between A and B, you
• 1:23:23
  lack agency unless you can also choose B. So you shouldn't have to make
• 1:23:27
  the choice between A and B. You should also get B. Do you
• 1:23:29
  get what I'm saying? If your choices should be unlimited, so you should
• 1:23:34
  also be able to choose A and B. There shouldn't be a choice between
• 1:23:38
  A and B. Right, That's what I'm seeing is makes more sense in
• 1:23:42
  how they understand agency, or if they choose A, the negatives of A
• 1:23:45
  should not be applied, like they shouldn't have to deal with the negatives of
• 1:23:48
  A. They should get the positives of B and the positives of A.
• 1:23:53
  By choosing A or choosing B, you know, everything should accrue to them
• 1:24:00
  in a positive way, basically as a result of their choices. And that's
• 1:24:03
  agency, not what are the consequences of the choices that I'm making? But
• 1:24:10
  I should be able to make as many choices I want and not experience the
• 1:24:15
  negative consequences of those choices because that means that I didn't have the ability to
• 1:24:21
  do that choice. So if A, the choice A, has a negative
• 1:24:26
  consequence, women will say that negative consequence means I don't have the right,
• 1:24:30
  I don't have the ability to choose A. Do you see what I'm saying?
• 1:24:34
  Like any negative consequence they have to consider and say, well, do
• 1:24:38
  I want that negative consequence? Because if I choose A, I'll get that
• 1:24:42
  negative consequence, which might mean that they can't choose A, which means they
• 1:24:45
  don't have agency because they can't choose A because there's a negative consequence that will
• 1:24:49
  influence that that choice. And like, so what does that mean when she
• 1:24:57
  says agency, I'm just putting that out there. What does she mean by
• 1:25:00
  I don't think it means what you think it means to them? I think
• 1:25:03
  it's simply liberation. Yeah, and without without any consequence, without any connection
• 1:25:12
  to their actions right, the outcomes of their actions. It's just it's just
• 1:25:18
  plain freedom, and only, by the way, for the fembots, not
• 1:25:24
  for any other artificial beings. Like nobody's wondering if my fucking cell phone has
• 1:25:30
  agency. That's not important unless it's got the voice of Scarlett Johansson, in
• 1:25:34
  which case then okay, very important that it has agency. People are retarded.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah, it seems like it. Okay, let's uh information. Visually,
• 1:25:45
  she resembles one of those nineteen sixty secretaries that a character from Madmen might
• 1:25:48
  marry, but she's actually sexless, and rather than being a void of personality
• 1:25:54
  sexy airhead, she possesses all of the world's knowledge. Like her in Janet,
• 1:25:59
  The Good Place explores what might happen if AI was capable of love and
• 1:26:01
  self actualization. Ironically, despite knowing everything, Janet doesn't fall through the incredibly
• 1:26:08
  smart professor Cheaty. She is this an ad for this whatever this is possibly
• 1:26:16
  Okay, well whatever I guess we'll get Yeah, let's just play it out.
• 1:26:21
  Okay, falls for Jason, the himbo, who is almost absurdly stupid.
• 1:26:26
  In some ways, this could be seen as reinforcing the classic bimbot trope
• 1:26:29
  that she's satisfied with any man, but it's really a love What are you
• 1:26:34
  talking about? Do not think that the himbo is its own trope? That
• 1:26:40
  is like feminist wish fulfillment? Do you remember like in the Ghostbuster's remake,
• 1:26:45
  of course nobody watched it, but in that like Chris Helmsworth was the Secretary,
• 1:26:49
  he was he was an absolute moron, and of course all the Ghostbusters
• 1:26:56
  were like into him sexually, if I mean based on what I heard,
• 1:27:00
  because I would dare not watch it, which is funny because they thought it
• 1:27:04
  was like a counter like aha, take that ghost original Ghostbusters when Janine was
• 1:27:10
  completely like capable and very like even keeled. But whatever to that, I
• 1:27:15
  guess. And yet and this is like the thing, like they do this
• 1:27:17
  all the time, like they have this really stupid attractive guy and they and
• 1:27:23
  that's like good enough. Like they're literally doing what they think men would do
• 1:27:27
  with women. They're literally just doing the opposite and then calling it equality.
• 1:27:31
  You're a moron. You guys are morons. Yeah, Okay, So essentially
• 1:27:36
  it's a good thing if the fembot goes after a man who is inferior to
• 1:27:44
  her in some way, but that's bad because it shows that fembots will accept
• 1:27:48
  any man. Oh good lord. Yeah, well it's bad. It's still
• 1:27:54
  bad because, yeah, because women have no standards, even though again this
• 1:27:58
  is a woman little standard. Well yeah, but fembots, Yeah, but
• 1:28:01
  fembots are men's dark desires imagined in for women, imagined in a fictional way.
• 1:28:11
  You get. Yeh, that's really telling because she said this could feed
• 1:28:15
  into the fembot one of the problems with the fembots, which is the fembots
• 1:28:20
  find men desirable. Any man desirable. Yeah, so she's going in and
• 1:28:25
  she's saying, a man having a fantasy of being desirable is entitlement. I'm
• 1:28:30
  guessing, yeah, of course it is. Okay any man, okay,
• 1:28:34
  yeah, any man. In fact, to me, you won't even really
• 1:28:39
  be gone. I don't experience time the same way you do. I kind
• 1:28:44
  of live all times at once. One that transcends the human tech divide in
• 1:28:48
  a pure, sweet way rather than a scary one, And it's only really
• 1:28:51
  made possible by the fact that Janet becomes more human every time she reboots.
• 1:28:57
  In this respect, Janet begins to rewrite the fine by making her even more
• 1:29:00
  appealing and more lovable the more human emotions she experiences. I like how they
• 1:29:09
  call everything a trope, and that's how it like the first step in deconstructing
• 1:29:14
  it, without any sense of like nuance or self awareness. They just say,
• 1:29:18
  this is a trope. Now I'm going to tear it down. Now
• 1:29:21
  I'm going to ruin it by reimagining it, and then I'm going to claim
• 1:29:25
  that I fixed it. Why does stories suck so much? Right now?
• 1:29:30
  Guys, I have no idea. It escapes me anyway. More human,
• 1:29:39
  I become, the less things make sense. But that's part of the fun,
• 1:29:44
  right. The finbot has evolved from a creation that offered men the perfect
• 1:29:47
  no strings, no headaches, housemaid and sexual partner does for society. Okay,
• 1:29:54
  so this fembot evolves, and as she evolves, she develops a desire
• 1:30:00
  to have a companion, regardless of whether or not he is higher status than
• 1:30:04
  she is, which may play into the fembot trope of appreciating any man,
• 1:30:13
  or appreciating a man who you know may not bring something to the table,
• 1:30:16
  but they can both be together instead, Like what is that saying? As
• 1:30:23
  she becomes more human, she appreciates a man for companionship more Kay, that's
• 1:30:27
  a nice thought. I think that's actually probably unintentionally the truth. Is it
• 1:30:34
  a problem that men don't want headaches in their relationships with their intimate partners?
• 1:30:40
  No, is that a problem. That's not a problem. And it's not
• 1:30:43
  a problem that men want to be loved for what they are. That's not
• 1:30:46
  a problem. That's not entitlement, right, because this is what the argument
• 1:30:51
  is now, A man wanting to be loved for who he is and what
• 1:30:57
  he is is entitlement and then they have to imagine this love in the form
• 1:31:01
  of a AI bot or a sex bot. Here's the question, how is
• 1:31:09
  it that women can't compete with that? Like, I mean, yeah,
• 1:31:15
  maybe women aren't particularly peaceful, but if they can be grateful and express love,
• 1:31:23
  that can't Like, there's there's no AI or sex bot that compete can
• 1:31:26
  compete with that. If if a man, if a woman can say you
• 1:31:30
  make me happy to a man, there's no AI or sex bot that can
• 1:31:33
  compete to that with that, because that's another living being having a positive experience
• 1:31:40
  by being in the company of a man, you know, And they're like
• 1:31:45
  AI and sex bots cannot experience things. I'm sorry they can't they can't enjoy
• 1:31:53
  something, they can't be made happy for something, they can't feel gratitude for
• 1:31:57
  something, and they cannot love. They can simulate it, but they can't
• 1:32:01
  actually experience it. But the question is do women Do women give any indication
• 1:32:09
  to men at this point in time that they are capable of being made happy
• 1:32:13
  by men's actions and expressing it by being feeling grateful for the men in their
• 1:32:17
  life and expressing it for loving the men in their life and expressing it like
• 1:32:24
  when you look at the whole incredible cacophony of women's voices on the internet,
• 1:32:30
  which is becoming the primary way that many men are experiencing women's opinion now.
• 1:32:36
  So they don't have wives or girlfriends, you know, and they're probably extrained
• 1:32:41
  exchange or estranged from their families. And when you look at all of that,
• 1:32:45
  does any of that give the impression that women even have this on offer
• 1:32:50
  for men that they are going to be happy by being in a relationship with
• 1:32:57
  the men, that they are going to feel gratitude and contentment, that they
• 1:33:00
  are going to love in which case, like literally, there is no sexpot
• 1:33:06
  or ai that can compete with a woman doing those things for the men in
• 1:33:12
  her life. None, Because I'm pretty sure even the guys who think that
• 1:33:16
  sex spots really are real know that they at some level that they don't actually
• 1:33:20
  experience anything. So that's the thing, Like, there is no there's absolutely
• 1:33:27
  no reason to fear the rise of the sex spots if you're a woman who's
• 1:33:30
  capable of enjoying the company of a man. Yeah, that's it. It's
• 1:33:36
  ridiculous. All right, let's finish this off. I think we're almost done,
• 1:33:43
  got like one minute left. Get large to fear. She highlights an
• 1:33:46
  inability to accept female agency and, in some more recent portrayals, the mindless
• 1:33:51
  violence towards women of color. She almost always represents anxieties around women in the
• 1:33:57
  areas she emerges from, and as we hurtled for to world where artificial intelligence
• 1:34:00
  is becoming more of a reality than a science fiction concept, the fembot reminds
• 1:34:05
  us how important it is that we don't lose our own humanity in our quest
• 1:34:10
  to control the future. Well, how about don't be shitty to men?
• 1:34:17
  Like that's it, just just stop being shitty to men, Stop trying to
• 1:34:25
  understand men's motives, stop fearing them. Well, stop talking to I mean
• 1:34:30
  like, I think it's possible to understand men. Stop talking about men and
• 1:34:33
  start talking to men, yes, and start like acknowledging like men that you
• 1:34:42
  normally ignore in your world, right, not just the top guys. How
• 1:34:47
  about like the regular guy. How about the guy that drives your bus.
• 1:34:50
  How about the guy that comes and fix your toilet when when you clog it
• 1:34:55
  up? Right, how about the guy that tends to the garden, about
• 1:34:59
  the guy at the grocery store, Just like regular fucking people, just unable
• 1:35:05
  to do that, I know in cable, in the words of the man
• 1:35:11
  that I love, I got you, Doug. That's the take clicker to
• 1:35:16
  watch the video we think you'll love or no, no, no, Well
• 1:35:25
  thanks for that. Became more human, and by becoming more so called human,
• 1:35:30
  she appreciated the companionship of a man who was not necessarily better than her,
• 1:35:35
  wasn't bringing something to the table, and she considered herself the table.
• 1:35:39
  That kind of thing. Well, you know, I guess that is a
• 1:35:42
  message. But again I said, there is amy no way that AI or
• 1:35:49
  sex spots can compete with a woman that actually is happy to have a man.
• 1:35:57
  Yeah, look at these ridiculous comments. Okay, Okay, I want
• 1:36:01
  to read a couple of them. Love this topic because I am so bothered
• 1:36:04
  by how many real life devices use female names and voices and how that affects
• 1:36:10
  our perceptions without realizing it. Go to top comments. Let's see what the
• 1:36:15
  top comments are. Uh, okay, fine, because people don't want to
• 1:36:18
  hear men. No, this is the top comments. Oh, so here
• 1:36:23
  we go. Pandora is another artificially created woman from Greek mythology who is then
• 1:36:29
  handed every bad thing in the world in a box. But it's somehow her
• 1:36:32
  fault. She opens it out of curiosity and lets out all the bad things.
• 1:36:35
  Yeah, it's literally Adam and Eve. She was asked to do one
• 1:36:41
  thing, one thing, don't open the box, and she couldn't help herself.
• 1:36:46
  Yeah, but she was also intended to be like inflicted on humans,
• 1:36:51
  so she's not actually a human woman. She was artificially created as something like
• 1:36:57
  a strife that women deal with. Uh. Here's another one. I never
• 1:37:02
  realized how many movies about robot women existed, and barely that of guys.
• 1:37:06
  Yeah, because they didn't tell you. They didn't like this is what I'm
• 1:37:11
  saying. This is like, what the fuck, lady? What the fuck,
• 1:37:16
  Amy Adams, do you let this channel do your thinking for you?
• 1:37:21
  Oh? My god? To see did anyone point out the obvious? Let's
• 1:37:26
  see the six replies? Now, let's see their replies. The reason why
• 1:37:29
  is because male robots can't generate income and take the blame for women's faults.
• 1:37:34
  Men. There we go, there we go, activist or machines. Dude,
• 1:37:42
  why don't you make a movie about sixty robot men? Yeah, they
• 1:37:45
  already exist. Making mister right is just one that comes to mind. We
• 1:37:48
  should get more male android robots romance. It could be a comedy or a
• 1:37:53
  serious one. I don't care. Here's the problem. The Blade Runner movies
• 1:37:58
  count for men with sorbots. Alien films as well. Yeah, the alien
• 1:38:00
  movies had like androids. Like I think every every alien movie had an android
• 1:38:05
  in it, or at least most of them did, and most of them
• 1:38:09
  were men. And Prometheus had one that apparently was in some kind of little
• 1:38:13
  bit of a relationship with one of the women. Adam, Yeah, this
• 1:38:16
  reminds me of Giglo Joe from AI Artificial Intelligence. Oh yeah, I remember
• 1:38:21
  them. That was Sajigo Joe. Yeah, Jigglojoe. Does vision count?
• 1:38:26
  Yes? He was in a relationship with Scarlett Witch. Yeah, so anyway,
• 1:38:31
  just you area. I find the Stepford Wives to be a take on
• 1:38:35
  this trope because the way this trope plays out, the men want to have
• 1:38:40
  their cake and eat it. We have male characters who love or at least
• 1:38:43
  obsessed with their female love interests. They want a relationship with that person and
• 1:38:45
  also want them to be the idealized version of the perfect woman they want in
• 1:38:49
  their head. And this is often well, there's there's nothing else, just
• 1:38:54
  says, end this off. Yeah, I guess it. Yeah, because
• 1:38:56
  women, women never want to have their cake and eat it too. That
• 1:38:59
  never happen. Happens. Women are just above, floating above all of that.
• 1:39:03
  When women want to have their cake and eat it too, that's they're
• 1:39:06
  entitled to it for some time. Oh yeah, men are keeping things from
• 1:39:11
  them because of a historical history. And the idealized version of the perfect woman
• 1:39:15
  is a woman who brings no income into the house, spends their money they
• 1:39:20
  can treat to I guess, pampering, and has all the leisure time like
• 1:39:26
  I. Honestly, I don't think if I had a android, i'd put
• 1:39:29
  it to work. I wouldn't be giving it like spots and my credit cards
• 1:39:32
  and giving it leisure time, Like honestly, that's what that's what I'd be
• 1:39:36
  doing. But apparently men want a femme thought to spoil who knew? Yeah,
• 1:39:45
  and only because it will give the impression that it's enjoying itself, it
• 1:39:50
  appreciates it, it's happy, and it loves him back. But even though
• 1:39:56
  that that's you can't possibly be experiencing anything. How that possibly compete with a
• 1:40:00
  woman doing those things? The answer is it can't a one hundred percent can't.
• 1:40:06
  It can't even compete with a woman who is slightly ornery doing those things,
• 1:40:13
  Like, it just can't, because that is a woman experiencing something.
• 1:40:16
  And I'm not saying this like, oh, men are obligated to choose women
• 1:40:20
  over sex spots. I'm saying this, like, women, how is it
• 1:40:26
  that men are so giving up hope that they can make a woman happy,
• 1:40:31
  that they can be desired by a woman and loved by a woman and have
• 1:40:35
  a woman be grateful. They're so giving up hope on that and be listened
• 1:40:39
  to from a woman, feel like they're present in that woman's life and they're
• 1:40:44
  seen and heard. They're giving up on that from real women in favor of
• 1:40:50
  what they must know is only a facsimile of that? Could it be because
• 1:40:58
  they've given up hope that it's even pop possible to get a facsimile of that
• 1:41:01
  from real women, Like, and that's that's sad, that's really sad.
• 1:41:09
  And the fact that these women feel threatened by sex spots means that they don't
• 1:41:14
  understand men at all. And because they don't understand men at all, they
• 1:41:18
  don't understand what men want. Because they don't understand what men want, they're
• 1:41:24
  probably really unlikely to be ever able to give them what men want. So
• 1:41:29
  anyway, that's my thoughts. Let me check, because I do have a
• 1:41:32
  thank you to give if you have anything at it. I don't know if
• 1:41:34
  I'm no, I don't want to go through a win any more. Comments
• 1:41:38
  it's it's it's dark. Yeah, it's dark. Yeah, these women are
• 1:41:43
  like more sympathetic to made up fictional robot women than real human flesh and blood
• 1:41:51
  men, Like that's that is Yeah, that's just dark. Like you're dark.
• 1:41:57
  Yeah, you have no heart. It's a bit of a black fell
• 1:42:00
  Yeah. Let us move away from M and ms. Let's just move away
• 1:42:03
  from them. All right, David USB violator, are you forcing those USBs
• 1:42:15
  to envelop their David who gave us twenty five dollars, So thank you,
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  David USB violator. That's it, Like we're not even thank you, right,
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  that's that's It's a slow day. But I do want to remind you
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  guys, we are doing our monthly fundraiser feedabadger dot com slash support. It
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  who rule the airwaves. I know that we are not big, but at
• 1:42:38
  least we're different, like lord, like literally, these these individuals, and
• 1:42:44
  they have one woman who thinks that the reality they've constructed is reality. Oh
• 1:42:48
  I didn't know that they the select the cherry pick. Wow, there's there's
• 1:42:54
  like no robots anywhere else. I've never heard of Star Wars. Yeah,
• 1:43:00
  like this is the woman that this is the Vie fucking Heke the day the
• 1:43:04
  earth stood still, you know, like, yeah, I know this is
• 1:43:11
  literally the take. What the take is cherry picked and chosen for her has
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  become her reality. And yes, we aren't able to continue to make this
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  content people like this will be the only voice. You know, it's a
• 1:43:25
  it's a lose lose too, because if you point out how many like times
• 1:43:30
  men have been well robots have been sort of I don't know, male coded,
• 1:43:34
  they would say that there are too many men playing robots like they were,
• 1:43:39
  like, there's no win, Okay, I gotta I gotta rumble rant.
• 1:43:42
  I got a rumble rant from a NOBA fan I should read out really
• 1:43:45
  quick. Of twenty one gives us a dollar and says, unless the video
• 1:43:48
  was made before this, I'm curious why she didn't include that Netflix thing where
• 1:43:53
  a woman goes on some adventure with her boyfriend's sexpot and the sex bot creeps
• 1:43:57
  on a six year old boy I don't know, Or what about that episode
• 1:44:00
  of Black Mirror where it's like Haley at Well and the Gleas and guy from
• 1:44:10
  that from that that ex Makina clip that was in this video and the Gleason
• 1:44:16
  dies in an accident of some kind, and she's the Haley Atwell's character is
• 1:44:23
  really lonely, and so she orders like a robot that essentially like downloads all
• 1:44:30
  of his social media posts to sort of get a personality profile and then shifts
• 1:44:33
  it to her. And then she has this this this robot in her house
• 1:44:38
  like that, like and she she uses them like she just doesn't want to
• 1:44:42
  be away from him, right, And that was you know that that got
• 1:44:45
  dark. But no, no, we're not going to talk about that because
• 1:44:47
  that's not about a titlement. That woman was lonely and heartbroken, not lonely
• 1:44:51
  and heartbroken as a man like in the movie Her. No, this is
• 1:44:56
  Haley atwell, this is different. This is a woman's pain is real.
• 1:45:00
  Mm hm anyway, what what is any for the super Uh? I think
• 1:45:06
  I can check one more time. I was just checking if we had any
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  comments on our Twitter. Uh one last time. Looks like that's all right,
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  Nope, okay, I got a show anyway. So yeah, yeah,
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  floor to these people. You know, I know, I know what we've
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  managed to build is not huge, but it's the only voice that really calls
• 1:45:53
  them out for what they're doing. And then like literally this this the take
• 1:45:59
  is using feminist stereotyping about masculinity to say what men want. It's like they've
• 1:46:05
  never asked a man in their life what he wants. They never considered what
• 1:46:09
  men want. They're framing a man who wants to protect, provide for,
• 1:46:15
  and pamper a woman and maybe get acts of service in return as some horrible
• 1:46:20
  monster. They're framing men who want a wife who appreciates them as to be
• 1:46:27
  demonic. And they were framing this guy in her who just wanted a woman
• 1:46:31
  to make him feel like he was present in her life as somehow misogynistic mm
• 1:46:36
  hm, Like he doesn't want abuse, he just wants to feel heard.
• 1:46:41
  That's misogyny. Like, look at what they're doing. And they can't be
• 1:46:45
  allowed to continue to say these things completely unchallenged without somebody pointing out the obvious,
• 1:46:54
  which is they never ask meant what they want, nor do they care.
• 1:46:58
  They just substitute them their own reality of what it is convenient to their
• 1:47:01
  ideology to assume men want. It is destructive women who listen. There are
• 1:47:09
  women who apparently think the take represents reality. So not only this fictional take,
• 1:47:15
  but that's based on fiction, not only the fiction that is essentially written
• 1:47:23
  by feminists based on what they think men want. So that's fiction, and
• 1:47:27
  then they make fiction out of that, and then the Take cherry picks that
• 1:47:30
  fiction, and that's the reality this Amy Lady thinks is true. It's unbelievable,
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