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Let God Be Your Guide and He Will Provide With Hollen Frazier · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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Hey there, here we are with another episode on She Speaks
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Life. And man am I excited about this
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one. Today I have with me President
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of All God's Children International Holland Fraser.
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I love and support this awesome organization that is an orphan
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care ministry dedicated to answering God's call found in
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James 1:27 to look after the orphans and widows and their
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distress. All God's Children empowers
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local leaders to intervene for the millions of children
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currently living in institutions and create more paths to faith,
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family and independence. They provide child sponsorship,
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domestic and international adoption, and ways to even place
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a child back with their family, if possible, in a healed and
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healthy environment. In today's episode here, Holland
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shares with us about how all God's children began and how God
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brought her into his plan to see his children cared for.
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She talks about her biggest trials and how God has seen her
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through each one with his faithfulness and goodness.
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And she has many faith stories to share in this conversation,
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including my favorite one about a young lady named Bella.
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Two that I extremely got touched by.
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And I know you will be too. So let's dive into my
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conversation with Holland. Fraser.
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Hi, Holland. I am so happy you are here with
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us today. Thank you for coming on here.
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Oh my gosh. Thank you so much, Jamie, for
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having me. I'm excited to be with you this
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morning. Yes, I love your message.
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I love the organization, the ministry that you have, All
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God's Children International that goes out there and cares
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for the widows and the orphans. And so before we dive into your
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inspired story here, I would love for you to share with us a
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favorite scripture. Reverse.
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Well, definitely my favorite is Jeremiah 2911.
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For I know the plans I have for you.
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Declares the Lord Plans to prosper you and not to harm you.
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Plans to give you a hope and a future.
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And that is just a favorite of mine, not only for my personal
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life as I can just see God's plan over the years and how it's
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unfolded, but also being rooted in that scripture and knowing he
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has a plan for every child, every family, and we can trust
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him for that. And when we do, He gives us that
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hope in the future. Yeah, he sure does.
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I know that's one of my favorites.
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Is my daughter's life first, too, So we speak that out.
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A lot in our. Household It's so reassuring and
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love that promise of his. And I had the privilege to go to
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your recent charity that you had in downtown Austin for all God's
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Children International and I think this is the third year
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we've gone and I just love what you are doing, you and your.
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Team and everyone that supports this organization.
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It's so important you know and and James 127 even says that
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what's pure and genuine in the sight of the Lord is to care for
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the orphans and the widows in distress and it even continues
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to say refuse to let the world corrupt you and.
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When I was looking at the scripture verse that that last
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line there refused to let the world corrupt you.
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I'm thinking, you know, if the world corrupts you, you're not a
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woman or a man of generosity. You are looking all about self
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and because in the world that is what you are doing.
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What's in it for me and when we are just.
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Loaded up with God's goodness and filled up with the fruit of
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the Holy Spirit. And we're filled with the word
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of God and we are walking with Him daily.
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We can't help but overflow and love and generosity create an us
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to care for the orphans and the widows.
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So I would love for you to start us off with.
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More about who you are and the organization of all God's
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Children International. Well, thank you.
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So I am the president at All God's Children International and
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I've been with all God's children.
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Actually, on Monday, I just celebrated my 28th year, if you
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can believe that. I kind of had to pause for a
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minute and go, wow, 28 years. But most importantly, I'm a mom
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to four amazing kids, three sons and a daughter, and we're about
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to celebrate my third son's high school graduation next month.
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So the time really does go by and have an amazing husband
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who's a pastor out here in the Pacific Northwest of a church
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and. I think we're celebrating 27
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years of marriage this month, so that's just a little bit about
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me. Awesome.
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Congratulations. We have a high schooler
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graduating next month as well. And an anniversary.
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This will be our 26th. Okay, we're we're doing the same
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life right now, yeah. Very similar.
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Very. Similar OK, share with us more
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about all God's children. So all God's children's mission
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is really we're answering God's call to provide the love and
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care that every child deserves, and we do that by empowering
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local leaders to create pathways to faith, family, and
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independence. For vulnerable children around
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the world, specifically for the millions of children that are
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languishing today in institutions and really are, you
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have a child advocacy model that really looks at the continuum of
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care of children. So first and foremost, we want
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to prevent children from ever falling out of family care, so
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we wrap resources around vulnerable families.
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And work so that we can really keep children in their homes.
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And we then look at how do we actually elevate care in
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institutions around the world so that children's brains, bodies,
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and most importantly, souls can develop as God intended them to.
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We're constantly looking at how do we place children first back
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into families. So we do a lot of reunification
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work. And then also do adoption and
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international adoption work. And then lastly, we look at the
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children that are aging out of systems and we work to prepare
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them so that they can walk into a path of independence for their
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life. So all of that work, we kind of
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wrap it around with policy because we know where all of
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that work is very individualized to the children through sound
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policy, we can have our widest reach to the most kids.
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Yeah, I mean, this is when I'm at the charity.
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You go through the structure of this and I'm blown away by how
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organized it is and how everything has its proper place
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and it's run just like clockwork.
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I mean, it's just amazing to me how well it flows and everything
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is covered, you know, from A-Z with these kids and so.
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I would love for you to share with us how did this
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organization even begin. Tell us the origin of the story.
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So all that's children was actually founded by my older
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sister Heather and my parents back in 1991.
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And when my sister was 16, she went to my parents and said I
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want to drop out of school and I want to get my GED work for a
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year and go to Bible school in Europe.
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And of course, my parents said that's not happening.
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You're going to graduate high school.
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There is not a chance we're letting you get your GED.
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And my dad haphazardly made the comment, if you can get the
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Superintendent of Portland Public Schools to tell me that's
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a good idea, that's about the chance you have of getting a
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GED. And sure enough.
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A week later, the Superintendent of Portland Public Schools was
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on the phone with my dad. And he just said to my dad, you
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know, traditional school is not for everyone.
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And I really believe your daughter has a really strong
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plan and head on her shoulders and I think you should support
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her in getting her GED. So she did.
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She got her GED. She worked for a year and at 18
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headed off to Bible school in Europe.
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And on one of her summer vacations, she called my
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parents. And I mean, this is before cell
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phones, You know, you're writing letters back and forth.
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But she had called them and said, hey, I'm not coming home.
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I want to spend the summer and I want to go to Romania and work
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in the orphanages there. And if those that can recall
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back, you know, 1990. It was war in Romania.
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Ceausescu had finally been assassinated.
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And the people, I mean there was bullets still in walls and tanks
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still in the streets. And she went and volunteered for
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two months. In orphanage #1.
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And when she did make a quick trip home before going back to
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school, she had photos of kids and there's just one little girl
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that my parents through a very long story.
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I won't share all of it today, but ended up really placing it
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on my parents hearts to adopt and Heather ended up going back
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that Christmas the little girl my parents originally had wanted
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to adopt. A week before she was leaving to
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go back to do that adoption, she had received a letter from the
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orphanage director that said if I would have received your
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letter two days earlier, I would have kept her here.
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But a family just came and she's gone.
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She was adopted to New Zealand. And so my parents just said, you
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know, we believe God called us to do this, and so we're going
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to trust them that he knows who this child's supposed to be.
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So she ended up going in at Christmas of 1990.
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And Hannah, my little sister, had just been born to her single
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mom, who was 18 years old, the same age as my sister.
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And she had had an affair with a mayor in a village.
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And so she had was literally planning to have Hannah and
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would was planning to place her in an orphanage.
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And so my sister was able to be with her and then figured out
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the adoption and came home in January of 1991.
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So because she was just so young and it was one of these the
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first kids coming out of Romania post communism a lot of news
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stories were there and my sister made the comment I would help
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anyone who wanted to help a child and from that day forward
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my parents phone started bringing off the hook and.
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They both left their careers and All God's Children was founded.
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Wow. OK, so it began with your
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family. Didn't mean necessarily.
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Maybe you were prompted to join this just because.
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So what happened with you? Well, I was 14 at the time of
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Hannah's adoption, and I will say I was the kid that said I
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will never, ever, ever. Work for all God's children.
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So I left for college at 18 to Tennessee, and I was looking at
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going into education and my now husband.
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At the time, we were dating, but he came back up here to go to
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seminary. And it just started really that
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I just needed a part time job. So I started just answering the
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phones. You know, I'm like I can, I can,
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I can do that and still go to school.
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But as God as we know does, he just kept through circumstances
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like opening a door, opening another door as I just kept
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saying yes. And you know what's interesting
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is when I look back on it. Anyone, even from a young age,
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if they ask me, what do you want to do with your life?
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Like what do you want to be? I always had the same answer and
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it was I want to be a mom, I want to be home.
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I want to be with my kids. And so through different, yeah,
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through different circumstances, just with all God's children and
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ups and downs and how life goes. Every time I tried to get home
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after having my kids, I just was not at a place where we could.
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And so, you know, today, being able to look back and just see,
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you know, what I really wanted and had planned for my life, but
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to see what God had known all along, you know, there is.
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There's, you know, not all of getting old is great, but some
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things of getting older is great.
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And one is you have a lot of years that you're able to look
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back on and just see how God has moved.
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Yeah, love those hindsights. Yep, they're great.
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Great. My goodness, yeah, it was a
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dream for me to be a mom to you and.
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I just That's a dangerous word, too.
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Never, never say never. Never.
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Ever. That's what you never said.
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Right, so. Probably the opposite of if you
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ever say it, just know he's going to U-turn you probably the
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other way. Totally.
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All right. Let's go on a detour.
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I'm sure you can see God's hand in so many places over the years
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with this organization. But maybe share with us a few
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highlights of how God has guided this organization in the last 30
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years. You know, we just had this
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timeline that we put together and it's, I love looking at it
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because the work we're doing today, I can tell you I would
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have never dreamed or imagined the significance and the impact.
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And I can't even say we are having.
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When I say it, it's like a big W of God is having around the
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world because we're just seeing his spirit move and like open
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doors that we would have never ever fathomed he would open.
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But as we look at kind of how he planted those seeds over the
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years, we can see in 1991 we started doing that permanency
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work with the adoption of Hannah.
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Where we are doing reunification in 94 is when we actually did
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our first elevated care model where we went into an
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institution and like brought elevated care into it.
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And then by 95 we did our first family preservation program, but
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from 95 to 2008. The work we're doing today just
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kind of, I wouldn't say it's stalled because we were doing
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adoption and we were still doing orphan care, but I would say it
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was flipped a lot more adoption than probably the orphan care
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side. But in 08, we ended up
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partnering with the Bulgarian government where we were able to
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sit at the table and help them rewrite their child like their
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family code, which actually dealt with how they cared for
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their kids living in institutions.
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And and then eight years after that is when we launched our
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first program for children that were aging out of the system so
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that we could prepare them for a life of independence.
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And so when I kind of look back on the work we're doing today,
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it's so neat to be able to see how God planted seeds.
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But then we had years for sometimes it honestly felt like
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we were in the desert. Like, would we make it some
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years? And you know, this ups and
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downs, but watching what he's done, since 2017, we launched
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our very first child Advocacy Center in Bogota, Colombia.
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And to see the movement that has really taken place in that
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country and now what's starting to unfold throughout Latin
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America, it's just something I would have never imagined or
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fathomed. Yeah, it's just you just sit
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there and I wonder at what God does with just your your faith
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and obedience, your little yeses.
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And he just turns it into something just so much bigger
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than who we are, you know? And.
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Yeah, it's just. Great.
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You know, we had this, I had this one meeting.
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This was in Columbia probably five years ago.
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But we had just launched, launched our child advocacy at
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the center. And you know, we're really, if
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you ever talk to our team, we're really big about breaking
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cycles. So looking at how do we break
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cycles of trauma, cycles of sin, Because we know at the root of
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this orphan crisis and why families are not stable and just
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so much pain in the world. The root, of course, is sin, but
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what comes out of that sin is generational trauma.
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And that is just being passed on and on and on.
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And we had this opportunity to do about five years ago a
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conference with the child welfare system, social workers
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in Bogota. And we're planning to do
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probably like a training for 2 to 300 staff on trauma and the
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effects of trauma and then how you can actually bring healing
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and transformation to that and. I happen to be in the country
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couple weeks before that training and a staff, our VP
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actually of international called me and said we really want to
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get some judges to this training and see if we can get the
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judicial side of the government also understanding because
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they're the ones working with the parents, we can work to
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bring healing and transformation to the kids, but the mass
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majority of those kids are going back to their families and
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they're not healthy and so. Through kind of a a long story
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that God's just intervention, I ended up getting a meeting with
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the procadoria de general of the country, who is the third in
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control of the country. And I was told, you know, come
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Friday I thought I was meeting with just a judicial judge in
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the back office and I show up to the building, the Procadoria
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building, and they took me to the top floor overlooking the
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whole city. And the Proca de Reed general
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came in. I had no idea, Jamie.
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I was not prepared. I just was inviting a few family
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court judges to a training anyway.
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But I had probably 20 minutes. He had his whole entourage with
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him, and I was able to share just our hearts in that if we're
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working to really bring lasting generational change.
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We need both the judicial side and the child welfare side
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coming together, so he said at the end of this meeting.
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You know what we're going to do. I'm not going to send some
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judges. We're going to host this
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training here at the Procaduria's office and if you
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stay after, let's have a round table to see how we can make
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lasting change here in this country.
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And sure enough 2 weeks later what we had intended to be two
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300 people. He streamed the training
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throughout the country and it reached 1600 leaders.
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He had Supreme Court justices open that conference and.
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I just share that to say when I think of like pivotal moments of
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where that's not a that's not all God's children, that's God
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just stepping into a room and like changing hearts and moving
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hearts of the right leaders at the right time.
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And really that's now laid a footprint in not only Columbia,
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but throughout Latin America on the work that we're doing to
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really bring healing to deep, deep generational trauma.
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I love it. God's intervention for sure.
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And I love the video that you guys played at the charity event
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in Austin of the woman's testimony with her daughter and
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how the mom was an alcoholic and she was abusive to the daughter.
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And just to see how all God's children stepped in to not just.
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You know place this daughter with other family.
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But to treat the mom and to and I'm sure it was.
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It looked like it was a journey. It was a process.
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It wasn't overnight fix, but the mom chose to accept Jesus and to
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get the healing that only Jesus can give.
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And then at the end of the video it shows the daughter with the
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mom and it's a healthy environment.
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It's no longer a toxic one and. So you guys not only help place,
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you know, the orphan, but you also help the families.
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If there's still a family, somebody that's related to them
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and help them with their traumas, get to the root of what
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is dysfunctional and the sin that's creating the turmoil.
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So I just love it. I mean, you guys just.
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Seemed to do it all. And so I know not every
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organization is perfect. I know, I'm sure you've gone
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through some of the biggest trials because the enemy is, you
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know, on attack when we do things for the glory of the
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Lord, no doubt about it. So could you share with us some
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of those enemy attacks and how you saw God's faithfulness get
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you guys through? Wow.
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So you know it's like there is a laundry list of them, right?
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Like I can tell you over 28 years.
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It's like where do you begin on it from both, you know and it's
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The thing is you look at all God's children and and huge ones
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like in 2011 we we just saw over a period of like five years the
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floor really come out of international adoption.
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So for the first probably 1515 to 20 years.
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Of the Ministry's life, adoption was, I would say, a primary
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component of how we funded all of the work we did around the
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world. Well, we had a period of time
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where when adoption really went from 23,000 children being
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united with with families every year.
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This last year, I want to say it's right around 1000, if that
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just gives you a picture. Of how international adoption
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has changed, but from a financial side, we just saw that
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kind of floor fall out. And so we had a period of like
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five to seven years I would say where it's like we had to in
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order to keep doing the work that God had called us to really
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change how we were talking about what we were doing.
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And it was just hard. I remember I was just, you know,
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the Board had asked me to take this role of president.
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My youngest was a year old, so just little.
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I said no three times, finally said yes.
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But then we kind of went through this desert period, and I think
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a significant moment for me was probably about three years into
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that. So we're not talking a quick I
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create a prayer and God was like, here it is.
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I mean, it was nights staying up.
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I made scripture cards. I wake up every night, just read
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script, a lot of waiting. But we had this moment where
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just an individual out of the blue called me and said, you
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don't know me and this is going to sound crazy, but the Lord has
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just been placing on my heart the last three weeks.
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I'm supposed to call you and ask you if you have a financial
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need. And you know, I've told this
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person since then that in my mind I was going don't sound
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desperate, don't sound desperate, but, you know, but I
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remember going, you know, it's been a hard quarter.
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And but anyway, after on this call, he wrote us a $70,000
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check. And at that time, I mean, it was
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just like. For me, it was significant.
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For the ministry it was significant.
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But I think what I watched happened was, you know, I had
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for so long said, I trust God. I know God has it, but I think
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he was waiting for my head and my heart to like, make that
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connection where it was there. And it's like the minute I did
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that he provided. And provided in a way that my
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work would have never accomplished, it was a complete
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stranger. And so for me, it's significant
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as even to this day, as a leader, of the importance of
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trusting God in everything. He can do it, He will do it.
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It's not always on her timing, but also from that moment
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forward, all God's children just.
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Went upward and onward And so for me, probably if I look back
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in the 32 years, it was a trial that just to God be the glory
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and how he ended up providing. But you know when you do
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ministry, I I say this to young women all the time like when you
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step into meaningful work in your life, the enemy does attack
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and where that I've seen it on. Work front and then you see it
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on home fronts. I mean, my kids have had hard
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things happen. Like you just see the enemy
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tries to, you know, take you off.
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And it's just incredible, though, to see God's
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faithfulness through it. So what do you think is next for
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you and all God's Children International?
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Well, we are right now looking at expanding that child advocacy
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model throughout Columbia. And we're really seeing doors to
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open throughout Latin America right now.
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So definitely looking to see God just continue to move in really
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big ways. You know, we have this kind of
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saying within our executive leadership team and really with
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our staff, but we want God and we want people to know the size
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of our God through the size of our vision.
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So we just are believing the Lord for.
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Miracle after miracle and we're we're watching it and you know
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we launched our second child advocacy center in Ethiopia
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about two years ago and we're looking to open our third child
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advocacy center in Asia, most likely the Philippines next
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year. And so we're just continuing to
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see just. God move but most importantly
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people's hearts change and children's hearts change.
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You know we this is just literally this week this
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happened but we have a young woman in our House of hope in
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Ethiopia. It's the reunification home that
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you saw the video on the at the the event but we we had this
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this young woman Betty. Well, I'm changing her name to
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Betty, but she her story was when she was just seven years
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old, her mom died and her dad was an alcoholic and he was
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abusing her. So at 7 years old she ran away,
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bought on a bus and landed in Adisa Baba, the capital.
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She survived 2 days on the streets.
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I mean, imagine 7-7 years old, two days on the streets before a
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woman founder brought her to the child welfare office, where they
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then placed her in the only institution that's in Addis
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Ababa. So Betty for the next nine years
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would go on to grow up in this this place.
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And it's it's not a place any of us would ever want our kids to
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be. It's for, it's for young people,
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young girls from age 6 all the way to 19.
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So if you imagine that scope, But when we went to this
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orphanage, if you just opened our House of Hope and so we went
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and asked, we said hey, are there any young girls that you
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think you could transfer to us? And we could work to help find
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their family and get them reunified.
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And we said, you know we really would like your your hardest
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kids. We we want those kids.
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That's who we want. And they said, well there's this
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one young girl they you know, I she she's unmanageable.
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Like that's what they called her was unmanageable.
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And they said she was hopeless. Those were their quotes about
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Betty. But they let us meet with her.
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Betty refused to come on our first meeting, but we went back
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a second time today. Betty will tell you she she
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knows now that it was the Lord on why she said yes.
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But she said at the time she didn't even know why she said
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yes to coming. But when she came for the 1st 2
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1/2 three months. She would not engage anyone.
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She was cold. She was hardened, you know, when
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she came, this was a quote actually from the orphanage
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director to us, She said you are her only hope and without
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attempting reunification and helping her, Betty will either
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end up on the streets or dead. That that was a quote from the.
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The director But anyway, Betty had really quit doing school in
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fifth grade because she just had a super hard time at school.
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She she never could go. But as she was at the House of
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Hope and I mean we have an amazing caregiving team and she
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refused to do counseling for three months, finally agreed to
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do counseling. Our counselor starts every
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session with prayer, of course, but sings hymns like in praise
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songs before the session. And slowly, Betty then said, you
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know, I'll take part in the daily Bible study.
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And we just started to see the Lord work on her life in like a
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huge way. We found out that the reason she
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hated school and why she couldn't go to school when she
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was at the orphanage was because she was actually at school when
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she heard that her mother had died.
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So every time the orphanage would make her go, she would sit
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there and relive that moment of losing her mom.
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And so as we were able to work with her, I mean, we just
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watched this young woman, who now is 17 years old, blossom
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into this young woman that God always saw her to be.
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And we did. Unfortunately, we're not able to
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look at reunification with her family for her.
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But this week. She is moving out down the
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street from the House of Hope. She's going to a vocational
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training program. She's finishing her education at
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night. And when we're done with this,
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Jamie, I have to send you just her photo.
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I mean, you just see it and her eyes.
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She has become the mentor for each of the girls in the home.
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And when we have a New Girl enter, she's the one that sits
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down with that girl and shares her story.
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And how she didn't want to be there, And how God totally
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transformed her. And they all now refer to her as
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like the fifth special mother, because she's just like this
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mother now to the girls. And I share it to say.
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You know, it's great. We can do global work, but it
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always comes back to the one and get.
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And even the reunification isn't possible for her.
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It's always about what does God's plan, what is that plan
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God has for her? We maybe we're thinking
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reunification. No, she's going to transition to
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independence, but she's fully filled and restored and that is
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what this work is about. Totally.
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That's the beauty of it all God's transformative power with
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our hearts and. Oh, my gosh.
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And her being a living testimony to those others so they can
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relate with her and she could relate to them.
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Just a beautiful story. Thank you so much for sharing
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that. I love that.
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OK. I love ending with a take away.
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Maybe the listener here is just. Enjoying and taking those all
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in, I'm sure, and just going Oh my goodness, how do I get
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involved? What if, you know it seems scary
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to them? What do you think you would like
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to say in an encouragement for them to ponder on or take action
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in? Well, a few things and whether
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with us, with another ministry that's serving orphans like you
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kind of opened and shared, it is a calling to.
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Help the orphan and the widow in their distress and whether
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that's down your street or if that's around the world, I think
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it's it could be even looking at families in your community that
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have adopted, reaching out and seeing, is there respite that
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you could give that family? Are there ways that you could be
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supporting them? We have different ways families
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can get involved. So we definitely have a prayer
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team that we just love so much because they're constantly.
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Uplifting the work that we're doing and the needs that we have
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in prayer. There's also we have a great
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program that we call Cycle Breakers and for $24.00 a month.
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And you can choose what region of the world or you could say
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global, but it's a very personalized update on how you
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can be a part of breaking those cycles for Betty and for the
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young girl that you saw last month when we had the event.
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But really bringing families into the work, the cycle
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Breakers, we have a sponsorship program for one to one
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sponsorship families to get involved with.
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We do also have a international adoption program the families
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were feeling called to adopt. There's children that are
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waiting all around the world for a forever family.
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Today we see a lot of those kids are over the age of five and in
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large sibling groups. So it definitely takes.
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A certain family that really is called to that, to do step into
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that, but so many ways to just be a part of the work and make a
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difference in the life of a child.
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So great. Well, thanks Helen, for coming
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on here. You are amazing and your whole
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organization is just absolutely wonderful.
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I love everything you guys are doing.
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So thank you for coming on here and sharing.
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Thank you so much for listening today, and I trust that God has
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encouraged you through this story.
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