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The Fever Report with John Robertson & Michelle Garmon: Can We Just Talk Basketball? (2.328.1) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: You are listening to the favorite report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin, every week on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome, Fever fans to the central Indiana Sports Report for this week's fever report with John Robertson and Michelle Garmin.
• 0:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: Here to talk a little basketball and guys, this fever team starting around and to shape a bit.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: A bit of a disappointing loss to the aces the other night, a win over the sky.
• 0:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It would just be really nice if we could just be talking about basketball.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I'm talking about.
• 0:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm only talking about basketball.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting to the point where what's really sad is everything is really starting to overshadow the basketball and that's just terrible.
• 0:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's to the point where I might check out scores and I might look at a box score, but I really don't have any interest in watching any game that the fever's not playing.
• 1:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to game tomorrow and I got to, I mean we have
• 1:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm so tired of all the nonsense.
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to watch basketball and I obviously like all the players on the team Bill this leagues a joke That's they if they've lost the two of you, man.
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's not good The sad part is they're losing more and I'm actually kind of shocked because I really thought Adam Silver would end up pulling the plug on the WNBA present He's got to be tired
• 1:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: of all this non basketball stuff.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: But what's that going to change if the WNBPA is is just as bad?
• 2:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know, but I'm actually waiting for Adam Silver to ouster and say, I'm taking over our officials are taking over.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: So WNBAP, now you get to deal with a bunch of guys that we have success behind our names.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, name calling your political agenda doesn't fit ours.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Get in line or just realize your days are numbered.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because you lose the NBA support, you will fold.
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because losing the NBA support, me, do you lose their financial support?
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the WNBA has lost money for years, so they really can't afford to lose that kind of financial support.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: John the latest of the nonsense actually came about on the floor where apparently Sophie Cunningham has been targeted by a player, it's, uh, it's not a good look.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: You guys know I love Sophie and I don't, I'm not going to get into the politics of liking Sophie but I'm not even that upset about Dejanay doing to her what Sophie did to,
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: What, J.C. Sheldon?
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know like her, you did the same thing move on.
• 3:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the complaining about it after the fact you got rejected.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: The same way Sophie was rejected when she did it.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's move on.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the way I feel about it.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a picture throwing it a batter, whatever, in baseball, somebody doesn't back to them.
• 3:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it's done.
• 3:36
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's all the extra curricular that like I just don't care.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I literally could not care less and it makes the basketball not enjoyable.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think what makes it even more is because it's just freaking crickets coming out of that.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: There should have been somebody posted the rule that says you're not allowed to go on social media immediately while a game is going on media after being tossed.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where is the WNBA front office finding character for breaking that rule?
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We all know that probably most likely if that's Caitlin Clark or Sophie Cunningham or
• 4:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to get into that speculation because I mean we can't really know like we can assume but we can't know but let's talk about the one that actually did happen like where Caitlyn got the tech for accidentally bumping the ref when she had momentum towards the ref direction and the draft didn't even move you out of the way versus a player on the sky actually like grabbing the ref and shoving the ref and didn't get teched up
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I agree with you that there's probably we can guess probably what would happen in the other one, but I would rather just focus on the one we have evidence that it did happen and it was treated differently with it.
• 4:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: The WMBA just hates money and hates not being active, but they should just be activists and go march around for political purposes and forget the basketball.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they should do.
• 5:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is becoming an, and I hate it because, hey, Kelsey Mitchell and the combo of Kelsey Mitchell and Katelyn Clark, they're big stories.
• 5:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: See, that street Kelsey Mitchell has, I think they would be able to rather fold and see the fever with Katelyn Clark actually has success.
• 5:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I honestly think that the players in that league.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: and the office front office would rather lose their jobs, not exist, then see Caitlin Clark be successful.
• 5:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they didn't at least take a complain about how the world's against us again.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just, I don't know, I'm so over it.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of you guys could tell.
• 5:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm literally so over the whole thing.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've been like one of the biggest fans for, I mean,
• 5:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Clark is what sparked my like actual really deep interest in like but like we've gone to games for years with my kid and now I just Now when we have a team that has a chance to win a championship it they're just trying to drive everybody away I mean I still think the links are the favorites oh sure sure but the fever are awfully good
• 6:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be keep it real with you.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Normally at this point of the season, I'm not looking forward to pace or season as much as I like pace or season.
• 6:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know what means the end of the of the fever thing and I like watching the fever.
• 6:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bring on the paces and there's stupid pinstriped jerseys.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's right.
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: Do not like the pinstripes that I love.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: I hate the pinstripes.
• 6:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do love the paces, but man, I hate the pinstripes.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: John, do you want to just talk paces for the rest of the fever report?
• 6:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man, like I just, it's sad to me.
• 7:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be excited about the games.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I want to be excited that we're going to see a New York and fever tomorrow.
• 7:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like Liberty fever tomorrow should be a exciting game.
• 7:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: It should be fun.
• 7:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can barely get excited enough to get in the car and go.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go.
• 7:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not pumped about it.
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it just makes me sad.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: John and guess that Greg and I are probably a little bit of the same opinions in old school, I think part of why the WNBA is, I think the people in our profession now, they want to become part of the story, there's to me media members out there.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: putting their own opinions out there and sorting themselves and we're not supposed to ever be the story.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I agree.
• 7:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I teach journalism at school and bias is so stupid.
• 7:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're going to get some, but it shouldn't be part of the story, but that's where we are.
• 7:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody was just so tired of the mix, we go to sports to kind of get away from that nonsense and then here we are getting dragged into it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
• 8:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: like you get some of it in other sports, but like you can still kind of ignore it and watch the sport.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot just watch the WMBA for basketball.
• 8:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I try to watch just with the basketball, but it's always some stupid story.
• 8:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every single time we have a win, we can't celebrate the win.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's what about this in certain stupid nonsense.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: All right, John mentioned the liberty tonight, the wings in town on Friday, John two really compelling games in the next week, and as I mentioned, the fever been playing very well, they had a tough loss in Minnesota, tough loss to the aces at home, but pretty much of one every other game, and not a great performance on Saturday against the sky, but they got the job done,
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, this stretch and kind of have you excited.
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to land on Sunday, you go to Dallas next Thursday, and then return trip to New York, return trip to Chicago.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: This should be a really fun August, but, ah, unfortunately, they got you down a little bit.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Dallas is falling apart.
• 9:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's up with Dallas, but they're they're falling apart.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're forward six in their last 10 and they are not looking good.
• 9:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not I don't want to say like I'm thinking to be an easy win, but I don't think it's quite the marquee matchup.
• 9:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: It would have been three months ago.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That ace's game was stupid.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That.
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just dumb.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just a ridiculous series of events for that game to lose.
• 9:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even talk about liberty.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be an interesting match up.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are seven and three in their last 10 games.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're seven and three in our last 10 games.
• 9:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that'll be a telling match up.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's an important match up for position because the liberty are 20 and 13 and 7th place, the fever are 20 and 12 and fourth place.
• 10:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow's match up really matters.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great match up and it's really going to matter.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Dallas game is really, unless the fever just blow it again, but they've been playing pretty well.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious about the Atlanta game on Sunday, Captain Bricklayer will be their lay and bricks and the rest of the team players will be doing their thing, but like,
• 10:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't even feel like Atlanta has been playing very well.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, there's seven and three in their last several games.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a hard time watching Atlanta games.
• 10:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like watching a middle school team, but somehow magically it works out.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good analogy, John.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good analogy of that.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to go back and say about those two games again, as I mentioned it earlier briefly, what Kelsey Mitchell has done now, the 16, I think it's 16, right?
• 11:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: She broke.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's never won for 20th Street or 20 plus points against 20 or more points per game in those.
• 11:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then her in Caitlyn being the top combination of points is just phenomenal.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially,
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: that streak is hard to do and I think it becomes even harder to do if you're a guard because a lot of your shots, some of those points are coming from their perimeter and knows aren't always going to go, aren't always going to fall for you and so I just think it's great I hope the fever are ready to go.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: It concerns me a little bit.
• 11:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about you, John, but I'm starting to see it looks like they're getting
• 11:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: a little worn down with in the post game pressures and things like that because they don't really want to talk a whole lot about basketball.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I mean, good that the players don't want to talk about the BS.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
• 12:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing that I'm going to give the fever on top of everything else is like their ability to just keep the, like, I think they're phrases to keep the main thing, the main thing and ignore the nonsense.
• 12:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's been the highlight of the season
• 12:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: except for why you shouldn't just said I'm not going to talk about it other than that um... they've been pretty good honestly yeah she's over two on things that i would think she would have been better she would have kept her mouth shut if she's just said next question she would have been far back then like the horrible answers she gave
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's given horrible answers.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think in a couple of these press, these postgame press conferences, it's just been a trotious.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're going to keep, and she hasn't Spartaned up enough to say, no comment because they keep going and then she keeps entering her mouth and making another that comment that, is she just really shouldn't me make?
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, the way she defended Carrington.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: over and above, all she would have had to say is I think the punishment was adequate on the court and that's all I'm going to say.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't sit here and root for Sophie for taking out seldon if I'm going to be like I'm going to condemn Karynton for doing the same thing.
• 13:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I said, I don't like that Karynton did it, but like okay, she did it.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Fair enough.
• 13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you see, here's the thing Sophie did it because of one of Karynton with Karynton.
• 13:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she tried to catch Sheldon all the way down and everything, but I'm telling you, here's the thing, here's the other thing.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Carrington has a history of this.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what urks me.
• 13:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: She has a degree with you on that.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like this is clear.
• 13:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard getting.
• 13:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I agreed agreed we don't disagree on any of these points, but I'm just saying like I morally feel like it's a bad for me to be like that's the worst thing ever She could have done if I'm gonna not be mad at Sophie for doing the exact same thing, right?
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But they're the same like I like one of them better than the other, but yeah, but JC Sheldon deserves it and Sophie counting him doesn't how about that I agree with you in my from my perspective Sophie doesn't deserve it, but
• 14:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to worry what I'm trying to say.
• 14:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't agree with Krenton.
• 14:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: The Krenton stress, she's poked Caitlin in the eye, she's tackled, all the things she's done are horrible.
• 14:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I can't allow myself to fall into hypocrisy where I say she deserves to be kicked out of the league.
• 14:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I'm not going to say that about Sophie for taking out a shelter.
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I did have to laugh there because there were posts on Twitter or we'll look at characters she gets a flagrant to and gets tossed and she was looked like she was going, you know, she was attempting the ball on the end, not really, but and then they said, nothing happened to cutting him when she did that shelter and I'm like, yes,
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because people that claim to be journalists don't actually do the work of a journalist They don't they don't actually do any research.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: They just talk because they want to talk They're stupid all the WMV journalists are awful Well, there's never like an exception of maybe a two or three, but the mass major media Journalists that I use the term incredibly loosely are awful All right
• 15:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: Tonight, the Liberty at home Friday, the wings at home Sunday at the dream before we could reconvene here on the fee of report, John 3 and 0, 2 and 1, 2 and 1, 2 and 1, so to support and you know, man, you know what, I think I, I'm going to say.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think I will go through you know, I know the Liberty game is always, that's a tough matchup.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Liberty are going to get the Lea and Fal treble early.
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like they always do, same play the ace is trying to do, and it's going to limit her and it's going to put us in the hole.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying we can't win that way, but I'm just saying it's going to be a difficult game.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, John, in certain KK and the starting lineup for Billings, do you see that being a permanent thing or just the matchup thing?
• 16:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it should be a permanent thing, but I don't know if it will be.
• 16:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I like, I think KK's elevated pass billings.
• 16:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Billings is fine, but like, she cannot hold onto the ball in a little more consistent.
• 16:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think so?
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: A little.
• 16:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I've watched her drop so many passes that she should have just held on to.
• 16:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like, I just want to scream.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just think that I think one of the reasons they did that matchup like they did was because they wanted KK to I think to guard Wilson some but I think they wanted to make sure that it was going to be a good mismatch for
• 17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Boston because Smith is there for and Smith is a terrible defensive player for the aces.
• 17:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that like I don't dislike buildings only very clear.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's fine.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think she's doing a fine job.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think KK's play a better than she is.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think KK's a better athlete.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think potential it's not even close.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think KK has been playing better and deserves the spot.
• 17:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Billings has just not, I don't think she's able to keep up with the speed of the team.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think Billings keeps up with the speed of the team better in KK.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And running the floor out on fast breaks, here's the thing, KK's is good at it times she just doesn't always know the lanes to run, Billings experience, she knows what lanes to run.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and she gets the ball through a mirror and she likes drops of that out.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you can get there and drop the ball, but I mean, here's the thing, there are matchups if that is good, but there are some teams that starting KK instead of Billings,
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: especially for the fever defensively is probably not a good matchup.
• 18:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but I'm still going to in one.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think if we, I wish we had kept track of his all-season long.
• 18:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think if somebody was more accurate.
• 18:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: If we had an accuracy scale, as we learned a few weeks ago on the fever report, John is always right, Michelle.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: He is, I mean, I think it's great, you're, I love your enthusiasm and your thing, but I mean, and I, I'm favorite, I've got to appreciate the you think they were only going to lose like five games all these or something like that.
• 18:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I can't appreciate that, but Johnny is pretty right on doing these games and so he, John can be right because
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: It backs him up.
• 19:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I guess when it comes to odds like that, we ought to trust the man who knows how to play the odds very well.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: But everybody hopes I'm right.
• 19:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: In a perfect world, I would love to say three and all, and that would be great if they pull it off.
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: But if I were betting, I would take two and one.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, guys.
• 19:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Go Fever.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: Central Indiana Sports Report is a product of IKG media.
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I love Susie.