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- 0:09Speaker 1: Changes in the air sooner nation made some adjustments we
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- 0:37Speaker 1: of the Sooner Later Sports Show, we've got some fun
- 0:39Speaker 1: things to talk about, kind of like the Sooners fired
- 0:43Speaker 1: a coach, then made another one the interim OC. We're
- 0:48Speaker 1: going to talk about what that means and what we
- 0:50Speaker 1: can expect heading into Florida. We'll also take a look
- 0:54Speaker 1: at the injury report like we do every single week,
- 0:56Speaker 1: so stick around about 7-10 Central Time. That's when it drops.
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- 1:13Speaker 1: Like we always do. But, uh, Hey, we got some
- 1:16Speaker 1: good news ish. Like I don't, I feel bad when
- 1:20Speaker 1: people lose their jobs while at the same time we
- 1:22Speaker 1: needed change. Cool. Happy Wednesday, man. How you doing?
- 1:26Speaker 2: Feeling good. Feeling good. Uh, this has been a busy day.
- 1:29Speaker 2: So it's, uh, I, I feel like I woke up
- 1:31Speaker 2: and I worked and then I, Went out to the family.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I ate half of an apple and I came in here.
- 1:36Speaker 2: So let's do it.
- 1:40Speaker 1: You sound exactly like me. It's been one of those
- 1:42Speaker 1: days where it's been literally nonstop since like 6 a.m.
- 1:47Speaker 1: for me. And so now we get to continue the
- 1:50Speaker 1: last part of our work day. Thank y'all for joining us.
- 1:53Speaker 1: We appreciate y'all being a part of all of this
- 1:56Speaker 1: that we're doing today because, you know, it's football season, baby.
- 2:01Speaker 1: and change in the air Brent Venables announced on Monday
- 2:05Speaker 1: well the school announced on Monday that Ben Arbuckle was
- 2:09Speaker 1: relieved of his duties for those that have been underneath
- 2:11Speaker 1: the rock and Jason Witten was placed as the interim
- 2:17Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and so with that being said more change
- 2:23Speaker 1: will probably come as the season progresses or once the
- 2:26Speaker 1: season ends. So Coop, I ask you as we initially
- 2:30Speaker 1: begin this, what was your thoughts on the Ben Arbuckle
- 2:34Speaker 1: being relieved of his duties?
- 2:38Speaker 2: It's a start. We talked about it on Sunday night, Jay,
- 2:41Speaker 2: that we didn't think that there was a high possibility
- 2:45Speaker 2: that nothing was going to happen until the end of
- 2:47Speaker 2: the year. And there's a lot that goes into that.
- 2:50Speaker 2: mainly because you don't have a lot of folks on
- 2:53Speaker 2: staff that are, I guess, up to speed in the
- 2:58Speaker 2: calling offense in the SEC or at all. But at
- 3:04Speaker 2: the same time, I brought up the fact that there's
- 3:06Speaker 2: a message that needs to be sent, that we've always
- 3:10Speaker 2: had a very, very, I guess, deflective response when it
- 3:17Speaker 2: came time to the offense from Brent Venables And I
- 3:21Speaker 2: think by this, it was, okay, we recognize it ain't it.
- 3:26Speaker 2: This ain't it. This isn't that it, right? All the
- 3:29Speaker 2: kids say he is him. Well, there ain't any– I
- 3:33Speaker 2: don't know if there is a him on the offense
- 3:35Speaker 2: outside of maybe Satania, maybe Beers, but I feel like
- 3:41Speaker 2: I'm even reaching at that point because if I want
- 3:43Speaker 2: to compare, and all due respect to Satania and Beers,
- 3:47Speaker 2: but if I want to compare those guys to– DeeDee
- 3:51Speaker 2: Westbrook or Ryan Broyles or Landry Jones. Like, none of
- 3:56Speaker 2: those guys hold up. So the message was sent, and
- 4:00Speaker 2: that's where I'll start is this told us that whatever
- 4:05Speaker 2: the end all for what the message actually meant, Brent
- 4:09Speaker 2: Venables recognizes that he cannot continue to do this under
- 4:13Speaker 2: that organization, which is what we all wanted to hear.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Yeah, we wanted to change. Everybody talked about change. We
- 4:22Speaker 1: talked about change for weeks. We talked about change since
- 4:25Speaker 1: the season started. We talked about change like crazy. And
- 4:28Speaker 1: we got that. And I really liked how Brent Venables
- 4:31Speaker 1: put it in his presser yesterday. He basically said, Cliff
- 4:36Speaker 1: noting it up, that Ben helped us with improvement in 2025.
- 4:42Speaker 1: We made it to the playoffs. He was a part
- 4:45Speaker 1: of that. We saw that we won some games in ways,
- 4:50Speaker 1: you know, but, you know, we saw a massive regression
- 4:53Speaker 1: going into this season. And that was not what the
- 4:58Speaker 1: job is. And because of that regression, you know, he
- 5:03Speaker 1: realized at this point the change can be made. I
- 5:05Speaker 1: did think it was funny that that this is the
- 5:08Speaker 1: third time that after a South Carolina game between us
- 5:11Speaker 1: and South Carolina, somebody got fired. Because Seth Luttrell got
- 5:15Speaker 1: fired after South Carolina in 2024. Mike Shula got fired
- 5:21Speaker 1: at South Carolina after our game in 2025. And now
- 5:24Speaker 1: Ben Arbuckle gets fired after South Carolina here in 2026.
- 5:28Speaker 1: There's just something about Shane Beamer and those South Carolina
- 5:31Speaker 1: Gamecocks that lead to people getting their jobs lost. So
- 5:35Speaker 1: I thought that was funny because, you know, yeah, in
- 5:37Speaker 1: a way, warranted.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Warranted.
- 5:40Speaker 1: You didn't feel like there was any... They felt so
- 5:43Speaker 1: disjointed all the way. And we talked about it, right?
- 5:48Speaker 1: It's like the dam broke and the floodgates just started
- 5:53Speaker 1: to pour, especially on defense because it was like they
- 5:56Speaker 1: were carrying everything so much. But to that point, Ben's
- 6:00Speaker 1: gone and we thanked him for his service. Holla, he's
- 6:05Speaker 1: going to do well wherever he goes. I think if
- 6:08Speaker 1: he hits the Big 12 or the ACC... I think
- 6:10Speaker 1: he'd do well. If you go back to the G6,
- 6:12Speaker 1: I think he'd do well. I don't think that he's
- 6:14Speaker 1: a dumb guy. I think he was a stubborn guy.
- 6:17Speaker 1: And some people posted on the socials, it did feel
- 6:20Speaker 1: like he was trying to ride the material ticket too
- 6:24Speaker 1: hard and show that he could make that work. And
- 6:26Speaker 1: it's like, nah, dog, you got to show that you
- 6:28Speaker 1: can adapt. You got to show that you can change
- 6:32Speaker 1: when you need to. And it didn't feel like he
- 6:34Speaker 1: wanted to do that. So he gone. And then immediately,
- 6:40Speaker 1: We got Jason Witten as the interim offensive coordinator. What's
- 6:46Speaker 1: your thoughts on that, Coop?
- 6:49Speaker 2: Okay. Why is Jason Witten the coordinator? And, again, what
- 6:56Speaker 2: I started off with, there's nobody on the offensive side.
- 7:00Speaker 2: On the defensive side, the focus, the intent, the strategy,
- 7:05Speaker 2: the scheme, the plan, it all means... Exactly what you
- 7:11Speaker 2: see that Brent Venables went out and said, not only
- 7:14Speaker 2: do I want guys who are great at position coaching,
- 7:17Speaker 2: but I want them to have some, you know, some
- 7:21Speaker 2: some time in the simulator, you know, call and plays
- 7:24Speaker 2: on defense so that they understand. So the safeties coach
- 7:28Speaker 2: Hall is going to understand. what is going on up
- 7:31Speaker 2: front so that he can align his safeties appropriately. Same
- 7:35Speaker 2: thing with Morgan, same thing with BV and everybody in the,
- 7:39Speaker 2: you know, the, the 12 people calling on, you know,
- 7:41Speaker 2: helping out with the linebacker crew. Now on offense, you
- 7:46Speaker 2: got almost nothing. I think Emma Jones has a little
- 7:49Speaker 2: bit of, a little bit of experience around the play
- 7:51Speaker 2: call stuff. I don't, you know, obviously Jason Whitten's never
- 7:56Speaker 2: called plays in, college or NFL or anything like that.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Bill Biedenboe.
- 8:00Speaker 1: College and high school. All five years there at the
- 8:03Speaker 1: high school level, but yeah.
- 8:04Speaker 2: But not in college or NFL, right? And so I
- 8:08Speaker 2: have two ways that I'm thinking of this. Number one,
- 8:11Speaker 2: you can't hand it over to a dude that you're
- 8:13Speaker 2: thinking you're probably about to axe. So for all of
- 8:16Speaker 2: us who still want some blood, I never saw it
- 8:21Speaker 2: being handed over to Emmett Jones or to Bill Biedenboe because...
- 8:25Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people who feel like
- 8:27Speaker 2: maybe those guys aren't here next year. Fun fact, we
- 8:30Speaker 2: don't play South Carolina next year, so hopefully there's no fires.
- 8:34Speaker 2: But back on subject is you put Jason Witten, and
- 8:40Speaker 2: I think that it goes one of two ways, and
- 8:42Speaker 2: we're going to see on Saturday and throughout the rest
- 8:44Speaker 2: of the year. Either Jason Witten said, Brent, what do
- 8:48Speaker 2: you want to do? You let me know what the
- 8:52Speaker 2: grand scheme of things is. and we're going to design
- 8:56Speaker 2: the offense around that. Or it was Brent coming in going,
- 9:00Speaker 2: all right, this is what I want to run. Can
- 9:02Speaker 2: you do that? And Jason Witten saying, yeah, I'll give
- 9:05Speaker 2: it the best college try. I got in me. Jason
- 9:08Speaker 2: Witten has played at the ultimate level. He has seen
- 9:12Speaker 2: great offenses. He has seen struggling offenses. And being a
- 9:16Speaker 2: tight end, I think he knows that a lot of
- 9:18Speaker 2: that starts and ends with the offensive line and the quarterback. Yeah.
- 9:22Speaker 2: And so I feel good about that. With all that
- 9:25Speaker 2: being said, Jay, I'm on kind of wait and see
- 9:31Speaker 2: on this one because I'm not 100% sure what it's
- 9:35Speaker 2: going to look like. But if you've got just an
- 9:39Speaker 2: absolute cluster top to bottom on your offense, why not
- 9:44Speaker 2: give an opportunity to somebody and say, hey, listen, maybe
- 9:47Speaker 2: getting away from anything that we were trying to do
- 9:50Speaker 2: is the route that we need to go. How's John
- 9:53Speaker 2: going to handle that? How's this offense going to handle that?
- 9:55Speaker 2: That's going to be the million dollar question.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Yeah, that's to be the, that is the million dollar
- 10:01Speaker 1: question is wondering exactly how everybody handles this entire setup
- 10:05Speaker 1: or whatnot. But what I thought was interesting in this,
- 10:09Speaker 1: I kind of talked about it before over locked on,
- 10:11Speaker 1: we went live and I was really been thinking about this.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I did think it was intriguing that of all the people,
- 10:17Speaker 1: Jason Witten was the one that got it. Um, Emmitt
- 10:20Speaker 1: Jones was an interim head coach at Kansas back in
- 10:23Speaker 1: the day, right? Bill Beaton-Bowe's been a co-offensive coordinator for years,
- 10:27Speaker 1: and he's been here for years, running a similar system
- 10:31Speaker 1: as to what Arbuckle has ran. Kevin Wilson has not
- 10:36Speaker 1: only called plays and all that, and everybody's wondering how
- 10:39Speaker 1: come Jason Witten ended up picking it, getting it. Your
- 10:43Speaker 1: theory is interesting, though, Coop, because to me it would
- 10:46Speaker 1: have been you have them– I would have thunk that
- 10:51Speaker 1: the people that you plan on letting go so that
- 10:53Speaker 1: you can bring in an offensive coordinator, you would have
- 10:55Speaker 1: them calling plays. And then the season's in, he's like,
- 10:56Speaker 1: all right, we're going to go ahead and move on. Like,
- 10:58Speaker 1: this is your audition for your job. Show me that
- 11:00Speaker 1: you're going to do it and then move on. But
- 11:02Speaker 1: that's not, I don't think that was the thought process
- 11:04Speaker 1: behind that. But it sounds like even B.B. kind of
- 11:07Speaker 1: said it, went and kind of jumped up and said,
- 11:09Speaker 1: I want this, just give it to me. And he,
- 11:12Speaker 1: him and Kevin Wilson are going to work closely together
- 11:15Speaker 1: with it. But, I've had somebody in my mentions say
- 11:19Speaker 1: that I guess it was on maybe the Sports Animal
- 11:21Speaker 1: or something like that, that they had mentioned that Kevin
- 11:24Speaker 1: Wilson was definitely interested. And everything I've heard from everybody
- 11:29Speaker 1: else has been that Kevin Wilson has zero interest in
- 11:32Speaker 1: calling plays again. Like, that is not why he came here.
- 11:35Speaker 1: He probably could have gotten an offensive coordinator job somewhere
- 11:38Speaker 1: easily because he does have a reputation. I mean, he
- 11:41Speaker 1: was at Ohio State and did really good there with Urban.
- 11:45Speaker 1: But it doesn't sound like he has interest in doing
- 11:47Speaker 1: that anymore. It sounds like the advanced scouting and the
- 11:51Speaker 1: helping with all of that is something he's way more
- 11:53Speaker 1: interested in. And he feels like he's... He may feel
- 11:56Speaker 1: like he ain't got his fastball anymore. There's a lot
- 11:59Speaker 1: of different reasons why he probably didn't want to take it.
- 12:02Speaker 1: But I did feel like it was interesting that Witten
- 12:03Speaker 1: is the one. And to me... I am intrigued by
- 12:08Speaker 1: how he calls the plays and what formations he focuses on.
- 12:15Speaker 1: Because I do feel like he's going to be a
- 12:16Speaker 1: 12 personnel kind of guy. I think he's going to
- 12:19Speaker 1: have them running the ball more. And I think he's
- 12:21Speaker 1: going to do the one thing that I've been wishing
- 12:24Speaker 1: and hoping that we would have stopped doing a long
- 12:26Speaker 1: time ago. And for some reason, we kept freaking doing it.
- 12:28Speaker 1: And I want to throw things at my television every
- 12:32Speaker 1: single time I saw it. I hope we stop the
- 12:34Speaker 1: split zone duos with the tight ends coming across the
- 12:36Speaker 1: other side. Cause they suck at it. They're God awful
- 12:40Speaker 1: at doing that. Why are we having our tight ends
- 12:43Speaker 1: pool when they can never get there in time to
- 12:46Speaker 1: get the block done? It feels like they were confused
- 12:49Speaker 1: in a lot of that. And I don't even, I
- 12:51Speaker 1: think it's more so a play call and design. Cause
- 12:55Speaker 1: to me, if you got two big tight ends like
- 12:57Speaker 1: Rocky beers and Hayden Hanson, have them go forward. And
- 13:01Speaker 1: I think you'll be a lot better off instead of
- 13:03Speaker 1: having to run around and do this kind of stuff. No,
- 13:06Speaker 1: motion it. Motion Satania. Motion other guys. You can do
- 13:10Speaker 1: pulling with your linemen. They do a great job of that.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I don't like split zone with my tight ends because
- 13:16Speaker 1: all year long, it's stuck.
- 13:23Speaker 2: There's a clip out there of Bauer Sharpe. absolutely annihilating
- 13:27Speaker 2: guy in the game this past weekend in the Monsoon
- 13:31Speaker 2: Bowl for Tampa Bay. Like, what we've tried to do
- 13:35Speaker 2: from the tight end perspective of putting these guys in motion,
- 13:38Speaker 2: it just has not worked, and it's just crazy to
- 13:41Speaker 2: keep seeing somebody, you know, try the same things. But
- 13:45Speaker 2: going back to Wilson, so from what I understand, and listen, like,
- 13:50Speaker 2: I'm going to step up here and say right now, like,
- 13:53Speaker 2: if you're listening to the sports animal, if you're listening
- 13:56Speaker 2: to OU Insider, Scoop, whatever podcast that you're out there
- 14:00Speaker 2: and it's people really just trying to give an assessment
- 14:04Speaker 2: of this. I don't think we'll ever fully know. There's
- 14:06Speaker 2: going to be notes that are dropped out after the fact.
- 14:10Speaker 2: But from my understanding is Kevin Wilson did not want it.
- 14:14Speaker 2: It was like, no, don't offer it to me. Now,
- 14:17Speaker 2: I could be absolutely completely wrong and people telling me
- 14:20Speaker 2: those things could be absolutely completely wrong. I just don't
- 14:23Speaker 2: think that Kevin Wilson wanted it. And I don't know
- 14:26Speaker 2: if it is, like you said, does he have the
- 14:28Speaker 2: fastball anymore? Is it that he's there kind of a
- 14:31Speaker 2: special assignment to kind of help out with the offensive coordinator?
- 14:35Speaker 2: I'm still not sure about all that. But I think
- 14:39Speaker 2: that it's almost a situation where, like, why would you
- 14:42Speaker 2: take a job that seems somewhat doomed for the rest
- 14:47Speaker 2: of the year when we talked about this at the
- 14:50Speaker 2: beginning of the year? Kevin Wilson's sitting pretty. Right now
- 14:52Speaker 2: it's where he can help out with the offense, and
- 14:55Speaker 2: he catches a few strays, but he is not the target.
- 14:58Speaker 2: He is absolutely. So if you come in and you're like,
- 15:01Speaker 2: you know what, I'll go ahead and do it. Jason
- 15:03Speaker 2: Witten played in the NFL. That's obviously redundancy at this
- 15:07Speaker 2: point saying that, but he played in the NFL. He's
- 15:10Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer. This guy's reputation, nothing can happen
- 15:13Speaker 2: to this guy's reputation. He is who he is. And
- 15:17Speaker 2: I would bet you that there's probably a part of
- 15:20Speaker 2: Jason Witten that said, nobody else want to do this?
- 15:23Speaker 2: I'll take it. He might have said, bring it, because
- 15:27Speaker 2: I do have some ideas. He doesn't have to coach
- 15:29Speaker 2: up an offense all offseason and do the OC responsibilities
- 15:34Speaker 2: anymore at this point. He just has to work a
- 15:37Speaker 2: functional offense and get that.
- 15:42Speaker 1: And that's it.
- 15:44Speaker 2: I mean, if you can work a functional offense and
- 15:46Speaker 2: just do something that makes sense, I think that there's
- 15:51Speaker 2: a chance for success because the rest of the way
- 15:54Speaker 2: this year, it is just avoid mistakes by every offense
- 15:58Speaker 2: that we watch during an OU game, their offense, our offense,
- 16:02Speaker 2: avoid mistakes. Because if you're playing against our defense, avoid mistakes.
- 16:06Speaker 2: You wait for offense to make the mistake and then
- 16:09Speaker 2: you take advantage of the opportunity with our offense. Hey,
- 16:12Speaker 2: let's just avoid mistakes. But I also think that like,
- 16:17Speaker 2: there's some simplification that you can do and say, hey, listen,
- 16:22Speaker 2: we just ran the ball for eight yards on first down.
- 16:25Speaker 2: I think we hand the ball off again. And that's
- 16:27Speaker 2: just a simple, intuitive decision that's made. Don't get cute.
- 16:30Speaker 2: Don't play. You know what? When you take a deep
- 16:32Speaker 2: shot on second and two is when you have a
- 16:34Speaker 2: functional offense. If you have an offense that's doing everything
- 16:37Speaker 2: to stay on the field, just run the damn ball again.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Run it a third time. And if you're in great
- 16:41Speaker 2: plus position, run it a fourth time. And at the
- 16:45Speaker 2: end of the day– Maybe run it a fifth time.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Why not? Yeah.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Just run it. Just run the ball.
- 16:52Speaker 2: Just run it. I mean, if you're moving people and
- 16:55Speaker 2: if you catch something, that's the thing about offense. Everybody
- 16:59Speaker 2: on here has played the video games, right? Yeah. When
- 17:03Speaker 2: you're running these offenses, even when you're in a video game,
- 17:05Speaker 2: it's not like you can just go out there and
- 17:07Speaker 2: vomit deep every single dadgum play or run HB dive
- 17:10Speaker 2: every single play. You've got to get into some rhythm
- 17:13Speaker 2: and you've got to have some things that make sense.
- 17:16Speaker 2: And if you're dropping back to try to throw a bomb,
- 17:19Speaker 2: you know, at your own one yard line, that's not
- 17:21Speaker 2: going to work out. And so I think with Jason
- 17:24Speaker 2: is he can come in here and he can go,
- 17:26Speaker 2: all right, so how do we simplify and just take
- 17:29Speaker 2: away a lot of the confusion and just try to
- 17:31Speaker 2: get through to tomorrow? And I, you know, like I said, Jason,
- 17:35Speaker 2: a willing blocker, someone's going to put his nose in.
- 17:38Speaker 2: He's a guy who, you know, what was the clip
- 17:41Speaker 2: of him running without his helmet on down the sideline
- 17:44Speaker 2: in an NFL game, knowing that somebody could come over
- 17:47Speaker 2: and clock him in the ear with the crown of
- 17:48Speaker 2: the helmet and end his career. But that's just the
- 17:51Speaker 2: type of dude he is. He is a tough as
- 17:54Speaker 2: nails type of a guy. And if I'm him, I'm
- 17:58Speaker 2: looking at it and I'm like, I think that we
- 18:00Speaker 2: have a path to success. It's pretty skinny, but I
- 18:02Speaker 2: think that I would rather him go out there and
- 18:05Speaker 2: run an offense that looks like it makes sense and
- 18:09Speaker 2: be unsuccessful than than running one that doesn't make sense
- 18:12Speaker 2: and being unsuccessful.
- 18:13Speaker 1: I just wanted to be simplified where we just go
- 18:15Speaker 1: out there and just run through somebody's face. Like, it's
- 18:18Speaker 1: just going to be physical. Like, that is what you want.
- 18:21Speaker 1: I know that's what BV has wanted. His defense plays
- 18:24Speaker 1: that way. They play fast and they play physical, right?
- 18:26Speaker 1: That is basically the mantra of the Brent Venables defense.
- 18:30Speaker 1: And that's what I'm hoping Witten decides to go with. Hey, man,
- 18:32Speaker 1: just go out there and just push people around. Y'all
- 18:34Speaker 1: got the ability. We've seen y'all do it. We've seen
- 18:37Speaker 1: y'all in the weight room. We've seen y'all get the
- 18:38Speaker 1: right angles. Now it's all about just pushing forward. And
- 18:42Speaker 1: like I said, simplifying the offense. I mean, you can
- 18:45Speaker 1: run similar plays, but at the same time, we'll get
- 18:50Speaker 1: to this in just a minute. winton's gonna have his
- 18:53Speaker 1: hands full and really getting everybody motivated i think the
- 18:56Speaker 1: one thing that bothered me the most well the second
- 18:59Speaker 1: most the number one most is just ben's unwillingness to
- 19:04Speaker 1: adapt and change and leave him material in this entire
- 19:06Speaker 1: time when there was moments you should have went ahead
- 19:08Speaker 1: and pulled him and gave him a minute to at
- 19:10Speaker 1: least sit down but the the rotations at running back
- 19:14Speaker 1: shout out to marco murray guess we can't really blame
- 19:16Speaker 1: him for that now right sounds like it's not him
- 19:18Speaker 1: huh Yeah, the rotations at running back, some of these
- 19:21Speaker 1: weird rotations at wide receiver. There were so many different
- 19:24Speaker 1: things that made me be like, hey, dog, what are
- 19:27Speaker 1: we doing? And I'm hoping we can allow some backs
- 19:31Speaker 1: to get rhythms and let them do their thing. To me,
- 19:37Speaker 1: you do that, you should be good to go. That
- 19:41Speaker 1: is going to be the biggest change that I'm hoping
- 19:44Speaker 1: to see going into this game against Florida. Besides that, though, Coop,
- 19:50Speaker 1: we've got to talk about this one thing that needs
- 19:53Speaker 1: to be changed. Probably at quarterback. Brent Venables, of course,
- 19:57Speaker 1: addressed it. Makes us all have questions on it. Let's
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- 21:06Speaker 1: Give us five stars. Now, there's one thing we do
- 21:11Speaker 1: need to change, though, Coop. We talked about this. John Mateer. So, Monday,
- 21:17Speaker 1: I think it was after practice, they had some chitty
- 21:20Speaker 1: chat or whatnot with BV and everybody asked him to play. Like,
- 21:23Speaker 1: all right, what you doing at quarterback? And he told everybody,
- 21:27Speaker 1: I ain't talking about depth chart today. The locker room
- 21:31Speaker 1: believes in John. And I was like, oh, no. Oh no,
- 21:35Speaker 1: where is it? Let me throw something. Let me break something.
- 21:39Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and punt something. Because I'm like,
- 21:41Speaker 1: oh hell no. This better not be the answer you're
- 21:44Speaker 1: going to give us going forward. B.B. cleaned it up.
- 21:48Speaker 1: Talked about it on his, on the presser yesterday. He
- 21:54Speaker 1: came out and said that everything's on the table. Quarterback
- 21:58Speaker 1: position is on the table. Now the locker room is
- 22:00Speaker 1: still rallying behind John, but the young players, and it
- 22:03Speaker 1: sounds like they've been taking reps in practice as well.
- 22:06Speaker 1: So if they do start John, I won't be upset
- 22:13Speaker 1: because that means that Jason Witten signed off on that.
- 22:19Speaker 1: That's if he does start. If he doesn't start, I
- 22:21Speaker 1: also won't be upset because that means Jason Witten signed
- 22:24Speaker 1: off on it. Everything's on the table. That's what matters.
- 22:28Speaker 1: I just needed to get a second confirmation here that
- 22:30Speaker 1: it only makes sense to keep doing this. Now, granted,
- 22:33Speaker 1: John typically plays better on the road. So it feels
- 22:38Speaker 1: like he plays better when he's not being booed at
- 22:40Speaker 1: the crib. He plays better when he's booed on the road.
- 22:43Speaker 1: It's the weirdest phenomenon, but here we are. I'm cool
- 22:48Speaker 1: with that. Whatever Jason chooses, I'm cool with. But also
- 22:52Speaker 1: the last thing on this is BV also said everything's
- 22:56Speaker 1: on the table. What would it take for you, Coop,
- 23:01Speaker 1: for Jason Witten to just take this job over going forward?
- 23:11Speaker 2: Good.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you. I was hoping that you would
- 23:15Speaker 1: be like.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. What would have to happen, I
- 23:22Speaker 2: don't believe, is in the realm of possibility.
- 23:25Speaker 1: There you go.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Because the offensive line, is things need to change. A
- 23:33Speaker 2: lot of things need to change. I think that their
- 23:35Speaker 2: skill there, I don't think that they're playing for, they're
- 23:43Speaker 2: not reaching their potential. And as a head coach, you
- 23:46Speaker 2: can recruit a one-star, a zero-star, a five-star, you know, whatever.
- 23:52Speaker 2: You got to get the best out of your players.
- 23:56Speaker 2: And we're not getting that. And the offensive line is
- 23:59Speaker 2: starting to look like defensive backs under Bobby Jack Wright.
- 24:04Speaker 2: Like it's starting to look the old school defensive backs
- 24:06Speaker 2: to where we saw a freshman come out. You know,
- 24:09Speaker 2: we couldn't stop anybody, you know, from the passing attack
- 24:12Speaker 2: at all. Defensive backs getting burned left or right, going
- 24:15Speaker 2: all over the place. And then you bring in a freshman.
- 24:18Speaker 2: I remember Jordan Thomas comes in and you're like, okay,
- 24:21Speaker 2: we're going to throw a freshman out there. And all
- 24:22Speaker 2: of a sudden he could cover, you know, more than
- 24:24Speaker 2: one different route. And you're like, well, what the hell? Like,
- 24:27Speaker 2: this guy's really, really good all of a sudden. You
- 24:29Speaker 2: go through the year and you're like, this is awesome.
- 24:31Speaker 2: And the next year he comes out and you're like,
- 24:32Speaker 2: dude forgot how to play. That's how the offensive line
- 24:35Speaker 2: feels right now. So that's my number one problem. Number
- 24:39Speaker 2: two is I still don't know what the hell John's doing.
- 24:43Speaker 2: I don't know if John knows what he's doing.
- 24:45Speaker 1: I don't think he knows what he's doing.
- 24:49Speaker 2: Well.
- 24:50Speaker 1: I think he is what he is, which is my point.
- 24:53Speaker 1: He is what he is. He knows what he's doing.
- 24:55Speaker 1: He is what he is. And I, and that has
- 24:57Speaker 1: been the issue I had with Ben with this is
- 24:59Speaker 1: that you've been knowing this dude for years. You know
- 25:01Speaker 1: what the heck he is. Put him in situations where
- 25:03Speaker 1: he can be successful. Put him in situations where he
- 25:06Speaker 1: can be at his strength. And it didn't feel like
- 25:08Speaker 1: he was collaborating with his staff to do that. If
- 25:11Speaker 1: you're subbing out running backs every 35 seconds.
- 25:14Speaker 2: No. And, So because I don't believe that John can
- 25:19Speaker 2: all of a sudden turn into an accurate passer, a
- 25:23Speaker 2: great decision maker, someone who's willing to throw the ball
- 25:27Speaker 2: how it was designed to go, there's no pathway for
- 25:30Speaker 2: Jason Witten to be able to do this in a
- 25:34Speaker 2: manner to where you can legitimately say, I am willing
- 25:37Speaker 2: to trust the future of this offense, and Brent Venable
- 25:40Speaker 2: is the future of his tenure here, into Jason Witten.
- 25:44Speaker 2: And that has nothing to do with Jason Witten. Jason
- 25:46Speaker 2: Witten can do everything. It's just the same thing, Jay.
- 25:49Speaker 2: If I say, Jay, you and I are going to
- 25:51Speaker 2: go dig a pool in my backyard and I pull
- 25:53Speaker 2: up a couple of plastic spoons, we don't have the
- 25:55Speaker 2: tools to do the job. Therefore, we're not going to
- 25:57Speaker 2: do a great job.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's a fair point. We would probably stink
- 26:03Speaker 1: at it. I'm really good at digging. I'm good at
- 26:05Speaker 1: breaking stuff. So, I mean, technically... Breaking the ground is
- 26:09Speaker 1: kind of a good thing, right? I mean, I might
- 26:11Speaker 1: break some concrete, may break a couple water lines, may
- 26:14Speaker 1: break a sprinkler line, may break a gas line, and
- 26:16Speaker 1: we all, you know, get sick from it. But hey,
- 26:19Speaker 1: something will be broken. That is what I'm good at doing.
- 26:22Speaker 1: But no, to me, it's, they see these dudes in
- 26:27Speaker 1: practice and how they handle some of this stuff. That
- 26:30Speaker 1: is basically the only thing that I can say. And
- 26:33Speaker 1: that is where, and that, and honestly, that is the
- 26:36Speaker 1: damning thing behind all of this because the players even say,
- 26:38Speaker 1: this is why the players rather rely on him in
- 26:39Speaker 1: the locker room. They're just like, this is not what
- 26:41Speaker 1: we see in practice. It hasn't, it isn't what we
- 26:45Speaker 1: ever see in practice. It's just, it's the weirdest. Peyton
- 26:47Speaker 1: Bowen said it before, before the Texas game. He's like,
- 26:50Speaker 1: I don't know. This is, this is not what we
- 26:52Speaker 1: be seeing. It's just the weirdest thing at the Georgia.
- 26:55Speaker 1: He's like, I don't get it. Most of them don't,
- 26:59Speaker 1: but don't matter. We'll find out who the quarterback is
- 27:02Speaker 1: when we get to Florida. And I'm fine with that.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I have zero reason to even care past that. But
- 27:10Speaker 1: what I am curious about, though, is I want to
- 27:14Speaker 1: see how Witten uses all the other weapons on the team.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Going to Florida, the most important thing here is Florida
- 27:21Speaker 1: does give up a lot on the pass, but they
- 27:23Speaker 1: do give up on the run, too. And you'll have
- 27:25Speaker 1: the opportunity to find holes, break holes, and actually get
- 27:29Speaker 1: some rushing yards. That is, to me, the most important
- 27:33Speaker 1: thing for this game is, one, we've got to stop
- 27:35Speaker 1: Jayden Bob from doing anything. And the second thing is
- 27:41Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we start to establish
- 27:45Speaker 1: our run. That is your only opportunity to win this game.
- 27:50Speaker 1: You've got to run the ball. Florida's defense ain't that great. Like,
- 27:55Speaker 1: I've got their advanced metrics pulled up. I'll post them
- 27:58Speaker 1: in a minute because that's the thing I was looking
- 28:02Speaker 1: at with them is like, man, we could probably make
- 28:05Speaker 1: some things happen in this game if we get our
- 28:08Speaker 1: heads out of our behind. Because Florida's defense ain't that great.
- 28:13Speaker 2: No, they play undisciplined. They get out of the way.
- 28:18Speaker 2: They get in their own way as much as our
- 28:21Speaker 2: offense does. They do, yeah. Now, that doesn't mean that
- 28:27Speaker 2: we're going to go out there. When you play an
- 28:28Speaker 2: offense like that, that doesn't mean that you're going out
- 28:30Speaker 2: there and dropping a Lenora Sellers on Florida this week.
- 28:34Speaker 2: That's not what I'm talking about. With this offense, in
- 28:41Speaker 2: a team that wants to let you find the crease,
- 28:44Speaker 2: wants to let you take advantage of their mistakes, you
- 28:47Speaker 2: have to be pretty consistent with yourself and and take
- 28:50Speaker 2: the opportunity when it's there. So when a guy is
- 28:53Speaker 2: running wide open, there ain't going to be no fans
- 28:56Speaker 2: to yell at Mateer to let him know.
- 28:58Speaker 1: He's wide open.
- 28:59Speaker 2: Get him. It's not going to happen. So the offense
- 29:04Speaker 2: just needs to go out there. Don't make the mistakes, right?
- 29:07Speaker 2: Don't be silly. Like, yes, I do enjoy watching a
- 29:10Speaker 2: guy fight for extra yards, but understand that those extra
- 29:14Speaker 2: two yards in the middle of the field– you know,
- 29:17Speaker 2: the positive on that does not outweigh the potential negative
- 29:20Speaker 2: if you're trying to hop up over a dude that's
- 29:23Speaker 2: not squatted down and fumble the ball on the sideline.
- 29:25Speaker 2: Like you can't do those types of things. But whether
- 29:28Speaker 2: it's Mateer or Whit Newbauer or, you know, Bo Bentley,
- 29:33Speaker 2: whoever ends up playing the quarterback position here is I
- 29:37Speaker 2: agree with you. It is let's get the ball to
- 29:40Speaker 2: the playmakers. Let's get the ball in the playmakers hands.
- 29:43Speaker 2: You can design, you know, even with this offensive line,
- 29:45Speaker 2: you can still design stuff, but it, you know, I'm
- 29:48Speaker 2: hoping that we see a, an offense that is going
- 29:53Speaker 2: to come out and say, okay, me as a wide receiver, uh,
- 29:57Speaker 2: they're going to throw a screen behind me to Satania
- 30:00Speaker 2: and I need to block my ass off. Uh, me
- 30:02Speaker 2: as a tight end, we are going to be running
- 30:04Speaker 2: an inside zone and I have a certain place to
- 30:07Speaker 2: be in a certain person to get to, and I
- 30:09Speaker 2: need to get to them hell or high water. And
- 30:11Speaker 2: we need to see those playmakers in the support team,
- 30:14Speaker 2: the support crew do their job because when it's your
- 30:18Speaker 2: turn to catch a ball, catch it. When it's your
- 30:21Speaker 2: turn to block block and, and, I just absolutely hope
- 30:24Speaker 2: that you are able to go out and do that stuff.
- 30:29Speaker 2: Florida is going to give you the opportunity to turn
- 30:31Speaker 2: four yards into 40. They're going to give you that opportunity.
- 30:35Speaker 2: If you just get out of your way, you can
- 30:36Speaker 2: take advantage of it. Yeah.
- 30:39Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. And so for me, when
- 30:40Speaker 1: it comes to answer the question, and let me preface
- 30:46Speaker 1: this and be clear. I want Jason Witten back next year.
- 30:49Speaker 1: I've been very happy with him as tight end coach.
- 30:52Speaker 1: I have been satisfied with him getting some things. Cause
- 30:56Speaker 1: I don't really blame the tight ends on a lot
- 30:58Speaker 1: of the mistakes they've made this season. Cause to me,
- 31:00Speaker 1: a lot of outside of the Rocky beers hurdle and
- 31:03Speaker 1: fumble against Mississippi state dogs. You just got to stop
- 31:05Speaker 1: being silly, man. You weren't close enough. You were in
- 31:08Speaker 1: a crowd of people. You hurdle people when you ain't
- 31:10Speaker 1: in a crowd, you don't hurdle people when you've got
- 31:13Speaker 1: four other defenders around you and two of your teammates, right?
- 31:15Speaker 1: You know, But that's another conversation for another day. I
- 31:18Speaker 1: am very much satisfied with how the tight ends have
- 31:25Speaker 1: played this season. I don't care how many points he
- 31:29Speaker 1: puts up in these next four games. I don't care
- 31:31Speaker 1: if he averages 50 a game. I don't want him
- 31:34Speaker 1: to be the offensive coordinator next year. I want him
- 31:37Speaker 1: to go and do a search and bring in someone experienced.
- 31:40Speaker 1: I want him to stay on the staff because if
- 31:43Speaker 1: you get somebody good, You get somebody good at OC,
- 31:47Speaker 1: they're gone in two years. They're going to get a
- 31:48Speaker 1: head coaching job. Unless you get Chip Kelly. And then
- 31:51Speaker 1: he's gone in two years because he's going to take
- 31:53Speaker 1: another job. That's just what Chip Kelly does. He moves
- 31:56Speaker 1: around a lot. He doesn't get comfortable in too many places.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Or he just wears out his welcome very quickly. Most
- 32:02Speaker 1: likely who you get is going to end up taking
- 32:04Speaker 1: a head coaching job if they come in here and
- 32:06Speaker 1: turn this offense around in one to two years. They
- 32:09Speaker 1: will get another job. That's how it works. Especially when
- 32:13Speaker 1: you have a defensive-minded coach. That's the game. With that
- 32:17Speaker 1: being said, I hope Jason goes out there and put
- 32:20Speaker 1: up a whole bunch of numbers. I hope he gets
- 32:22Speaker 1: his 30 a game. If he gets his 30 a
- 32:23Speaker 1: game with just offense, I am satisfied and I want
- 32:28Speaker 1: him to be in line to be offensive coordinator after
- 32:31Speaker 1: we make a change. I just don't want it to
- 32:33Speaker 1: be immediately. I don't want to go back into the
- 32:36Speaker 1: inexperience pool like that. Even though that is where most
- 32:41Speaker 1: of your success comes from, prefer not to. Because when
- 32:44Speaker 1: I look at this game against Florida, put up the
- 32:47Speaker 1: advanced numbers, built me a little website where I can
- 32:50Speaker 1: make these little graphics and stuff. I'm pretty excited about it.
- 32:52Speaker 1: And I'm going to be doing this like all the
- 32:54Speaker 1: time because y'all know I'm a nerd when it comes
- 32:57Speaker 1: to this. So looking at this, this is like the
- 32:59Speaker 1: just raw numbers for us versus Florida. Our offense, their
- 33:05Speaker 1: offense versus our defense, they're both rated in about the
- 33:08Speaker 1: same area in the, you know, in the middle of
- 33:12Speaker 1: the pack. Most of our defense is rated pretty high.
- 33:14Speaker 1: We're still six in XP +. We're 12th in FPI
- 33:18Speaker 1: and the efficiency and everything. We're still rated pretty well
- 33:23Speaker 1: overall on defense, even with the stinker last week, which, again,
- 33:28Speaker 1: we felt like was they just, the dam broke because
- 33:32Speaker 1: they were doing all the work. But on the opposite side,
- 33:35Speaker 1: their defense is just as bad as their offense. Points
- 33:37Speaker 1: per game, they give up 28 a game. We only
- 33:39Speaker 1: get 22, but they give up 28. They don't. The
- 33:42Speaker 1: total yards, they're giving up almost 400 a game, right?
- 33:46Speaker 1: They're giving up 230-something passing, roughly what we give up,
- 33:50Speaker 1: which is low for them. They'll give up 130 rushing, right?
- 33:54Speaker 1: We ain't getting anywhere near that. But the opportunity is there.
- 33:57Speaker 1: Their third down percentage is awful. They're tied for 119th
- 34:03Speaker 1: in third down percentage right there. It's just bad. They
- 34:06Speaker 1: are a team that you can get something on. And
- 34:09Speaker 1: when you look at the advanced metrics, about uh with
- 34:13Speaker 1: them they they're not they will they will make it
- 34:19Speaker 1: easy for you to be able to uh get some
- 34:23Speaker 1: some yards so for us this is jason whitton's perfect
- 34:26Speaker 1: opportunity now the tough part is is that you are
- 34:29Speaker 1: at the swamp so you're going to have a be
- 34:32Speaker 1: around a hostile fan base because they're not awful they're
- 34:40Speaker 1: just not as good as they should have been And
- 34:43Speaker 1: they're 5-3. They were taking some tail whippings and their losses.
- 34:50Speaker 1: And their fan base is kind of like now lukewarm.
- 34:53Speaker 1: I even haven't heard the best feelings about Faulkner right
- 34:57Speaker 1: now in that area. So, that being said, things are
- 35:02Speaker 1: a little stinky. There's an opportunity to get out there
- 35:05Speaker 1: and get an upset.
- 35:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's blood in the water. Everybody sees it
- 35:12Speaker 2: does not matter that OU is at the record that
- 35:16Speaker 2: they're at right now. It's still Oklahoma. And so from
- 35:19Speaker 2: a Florida fan perspective is they've seen competent offense and
- 35:25Speaker 2: they've seen adequate defense. And if you can put those
- 35:28Speaker 2: two things together in a day, you're going to beat
- 35:30Speaker 2: a team like Oklahoma who's coming in with a stellar
- 35:32Speaker 2: defense and just a conundrum on offense. So the fans
- 35:37Speaker 2: are going to be juiced up. That defense, as bad
- 35:40Speaker 2: as they are, they play like psychos. You saw it
- 35:44Speaker 2: in the Texas game. The offense just had a couple holes,
- 35:49Speaker 2: and the defense took advantage of it. Arch turned the
- 35:52Speaker 2: ball over, and you ended up with them winning that game.
- 35:57Speaker 2: But outside of that, they are 1-3 in their last
- 35:59Speaker 2: four games. And you've got Missouri. They give up 45.
- 36:06Speaker 2: South Carolina, 38. Nothing to, you know, shake a fist
- 36:10Speaker 2: at there. And then Georgia, 27-8. They score, you know,
- 36:13Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter when it doesn't matter. And you
- 36:16Speaker 2: know Kirby Smart could probably have 50 if he wanted to.
- 36:19Speaker 2: That being said, they've got Kentucky following up right after us.
- 36:23Speaker 2: So they know that they've got to get this win
- 36:26Speaker 2: and they get bowl eligible. And then they can take
- 36:30Speaker 2: on Kentucky, Vandy, Florida State after the fact. But This
- 36:34Speaker 2: crew is going to come out here, and if our
- 36:37Speaker 2: offense does struggle at certain things, Florida's defense, there's a
- 36:43Speaker 2: lot of guys that are going to end up in
- 36:45Speaker 2: the NFL there. They're not going to have top five
- 36:49Speaker 2: draft picks up and down the defensive side, but they're
- 36:52Speaker 2: still the same freaks of nature that Florida's been getting
- 36:54Speaker 2: year after year that ends up having one or two
- 36:57Speaker 2: guys that make the NFL and are big boys in
- 36:59Speaker 2: the NFL. You have to, you have to, have to,
- 37:04Speaker 2: have to just understand that there's going to be a
- 37:06Speaker 2: motion right out the gate. And if you can withstand
- 37:09Speaker 2: that and get to the, you know, toward the back
- 37:11Speaker 2: half of the first quarter, I think a lot of
- 37:13Speaker 2: things are on the table. But I promise you this too,
- 37:16Speaker 2: as inconsistent as they are, if you let them get
- 37:19Speaker 2: out in front of us, you know, nobody feels really
- 37:22Speaker 2: comfortable that this OU offense is going to be able
- 37:23Speaker 2: to chase down, you know, a big deficit. But if
- 37:27Speaker 2: you let them get out, then all of a sudden
- 37:29Speaker 2: they're going to be playing with house money and they're
- 37:31Speaker 2: going to try to run away.
- 37:33Speaker 1: Yeah. So your job is to not let them just
- 37:37Speaker 1: run it fully down your throat, but you need to
- 37:40Speaker 1: find a way to get some runs in their face.
- 37:44Speaker 1: It ain't going to be easy, but it's going to
- 37:46Speaker 1: be a fun weekend for all of us. Let's put
- 37:50Speaker 1: it that way. Because we get to see something new.
- 37:52Speaker 1: That is the most important thing for me is to
- 37:55Speaker 1: see something new. That was literally all I cared about
- 37:58Speaker 1: going into this. But with that being said, I do
- 38:03Speaker 1: want to talk about when we start the shopping process,
- 38:10Speaker 1: looking at future offensive coordinators. I got my list up.
- 38:17Speaker 1: I've already built my third version of my big list,
- 38:22Speaker 1: my big board. We can talk about it. Shout out Mr.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Dilly Yab. As long as John mentally broke mid-tier, doesn't
- 38:31Speaker 1: have their hair booze, calls for a little CB fired,
- 38:34Speaker 1: Whit replaced him. He isn't capable of finding an open
- 38:36Speaker 1: wide receiver well without fans' help. I mean, he did
- 38:39Speaker 1: against Mississippi State. I think he was just fine there. So, yeah,
- 38:44Speaker 1: that kind of hurts that argument. Again, he seems to
- 38:48Speaker 1: play a little bit better on the road where he
- 38:50Speaker 1: seems to concentrate, even though he does miss people open.
- 38:53Speaker 1: I blame his offensive coordinator for not scheming it and
- 38:56Speaker 1: telling him where to throw the ball. That, to me,
- 38:57Speaker 1: if you know the dude, why would you call plays
- 38:59Speaker 1: like that? But we saw him hit Rocky Beard. He
- 39:02Speaker 1: changed the play against Mississippi State, hit Rocky Beard across
- 39:05Speaker 1: the middle for a touchdown. He ran the play against
- 39:08Speaker 1: Michigan for McKenzie Alleyne. He does. Blind squirrel does find
- 39:12Speaker 1: the nut, but I will say this. Jason Witten sees
- 39:16Speaker 1: these dudes in practice, and hopefully he makes a decision
- 39:18Speaker 1: based upon who the hell practiced the best.
- 39:22Speaker 2: Well, And I'll say this, John, people do what they're
- 39:28Speaker 2: coached to do. or what they're allowed to do coached
- 39:33Speaker 2: to do or allowed to do so let that sink
- 39:35Speaker 2: in for a second we've seen for a year and
- 39:38Speaker 2: a half the same nonsense from john and i don't
- 39:44Speaker 2: know if there was a there was a loyalty issue, like, hey,
- 39:48Speaker 2: I followed you here, like, you promised me, X, Y, Z,
- 39:51Speaker 2: whatever it ends up being. But I can say this.
- 39:56Speaker 2: When you have a coach who comes in and takes
- 39:59Speaker 2: over a bunch of other dudes' players, he doesn't have
- 40:01Speaker 2: an issue going, okay, I understand that you have been
- 40:06Speaker 2: the guy, but I'm going to make this guy the guy.
- 40:09Speaker 2: And you don't have a tie. You don't have promises.
- 40:12Speaker 2: You don't have any of that stuff. So our friend,
- 40:16Speaker 2: and appreciate again for the $ 10 here, is, yeah, John,
- 40:22Speaker 2: we're sick of seeing the same nonsense. But on the road,
- 40:25Speaker 2: John does have a little bit, I don't know if
- 40:27Speaker 2: it's just he gets a me-against-the-world feel on the road
- 40:31Speaker 2: and there's no hurt feelings, whereas at home, it's just
- 40:35Speaker 2: the most awkward situation ever. But whatever needs to happen,
- 40:40Speaker 2: whether it's Whit Neubauer standing back there like in an
- 40:43Speaker 2: immovable building and he can't move around. I just want
- 40:47Speaker 2: to see someone who can anticipate a throw and throw
- 40:50Speaker 2: to a spot and do what the OC is asking
- 40:52Speaker 2: them to do. And if John can do what Jason
- 40:55Speaker 2: Witten is going to go ask him to do, I'm
- 40:57Speaker 2: okay with John. If he can't, then you bring in
- 41:01Speaker 2: somebody else who can do that. And you've brought it
- 41:04Speaker 2: up for a year and a half here, Jay, that
- 41:07Speaker 2: some of these OCs, Josh Heupel, they will go out
- 41:10Speaker 2: there and they'll say, Lane Kiffin, This is what you're
- 41:13Speaker 2: going to see. This is where I want you to
- 41:14Speaker 2: throw it. You know, you got until 15 seconds in
- 41:17Speaker 2: the clock when it goes down that you can communicate
- 41:20Speaker 2: some stuff. There are multiple times that I know Ben
- 41:23Speaker 2: Arbuckle has been yelling and trying to get John's attention
- 41:26Speaker 2: for stuff. You just got to do it. I mean,
- 41:28Speaker 2: it is with John. I will say the same thing
- 41:31Speaker 2: as I say to my children, like. If you don't
- 41:34Speaker 2: do it, it's either because you have chosen to be
- 41:36Speaker 2: disobedient or you don't possess the intelligence to do what
- 41:40Speaker 2: I asked you to do. And I'm not too sure
- 41:43Speaker 2: which one it is with John, unfortunately. But he's gotten
- 41:47Speaker 2: away with so much for so long that I still
- 41:50Speaker 2: think that he still thinks that he's just one snippet
- 41:55Speaker 2: away from doing the right thing. Maybe. Maybe. Regardless, Jay,
- 42:02Speaker 2: if John can't go out there and run what's called
- 42:05Speaker 2: and if you're holding the ball and not letting it loose,
- 42:09Speaker 2: you know what? If John goes out and he throws
- 42:11Speaker 2: an interception where he sees single high coverage, he somehow
- 42:16Speaker 2: looks off the safety, and he gives his guy a
- 42:19Speaker 2: one-on-one opportunity, and the guy makes a great play and
- 42:22Speaker 2: intercepts the ball, I'm okay. I'm okay with that. But
- 42:25Speaker 2: what I don't want to see is him– looking at
- 42:30Speaker 2: a guy like he did against Parker Livingston against Georgia,
- 42:33Speaker 2: Parker's wide open, and he just has to have the
- 42:36Speaker 2: cojones to let it rip. Because if he lets it
- 42:38Speaker 2: rip with anywhere of a decent pass, Livingston's open. And
- 42:42Speaker 2: Livingston is right now being ridiculed by Texas fans, OU fans,
- 42:45Speaker 2: as why did we give this guy money because he's garbage.
- 42:49Speaker 2: I don't think he's necessarily as bad as everybody's saying
- 42:52Speaker 2: because when I've watched the 22, there's a lot of
- 42:56Speaker 2: Parker Livingston running around by himself.
- 42:59Speaker 1: Yep. Hanging out. And it, I think it's play call.
- 43:03Speaker 1: I think it's play call. I think it's, I think
- 43:07Speaker 1: it's the, the issue I've had with Ben is he
- 43:11Speaker 1: likes to go, he tries to get cute with a
- 43:15Speaker 1: lot of stuff and that's a problem. That's not going
- 43:18Speaker 1: to work whatsoever. Uh, official house money. Thanks for the
- 43:22Speaker 1: two bucks. Know that major right hit on Johnson on
- 43:25Speaker 1: a loop. Got it boss. Sooner Legend, thanks for the $ 10,
- 43:32Speaker 1: my guy. Check out Sooner Legend's podcast. My guy, Mike,
- 43:36Speaker 1: appreciate that. But to me, to go with that, Coop, like,
- 43:45Speaker 1: I'm not going to, this will be my last thing
- 43:47Speaker 1: on it. I'm just ready to see what Witten wants
- 43:49Speaker 1: to do. And I saw on Oklahoma Breakdown, Teddy was
- 43:52Speaker 1: talking about sit with your quarterbacks, see what they're comfortable with.
- 43:57Speaker 1: Focus on that, right? All of them. And see what
- 44:00Speaker 1: the competition looks like in practice. I've seen Witt play
- 44:03Speaker 1: against Alabama. I saw he looks cool. Looked good during
- 44:07Speaker 1: the garbage time of the game. Awesome. He's been here
- 44:10Speaker 1: for two years. He's been here two off seasons. They
- 44:14Speaker 1: know what they got. They know what they got. And
- 44:18Speaker 1: so if he plays, then they felt like he's ready
- 44:22Speaker 1: for it. If he doesn't, it's probably because they feel
- 44:24Speaker 1: like he ain't ready for it. Just keep that in mind.
- 44:27Speaker 1: He's been here for a bit. They've watched him in
- 44:30Speaker 1: practice every single week. Spring ball, everything. They know what
- 44:35Speaker 1: they've got. Same thing with Bo Bentley. This is Bo's first.
- 44:39Speaker 1: They know what they got. So I'm going to let
- 44:41Speaker 1: Jason Witten decide on who's going to actually be able
- 44:45Speaker 1: to make plays and make things happen. But I do
- 44:47Speaker 1: want to go over my big board. I have been
- 44:50Speaker 1: looking at some of these coaches. I did my first
- 44:53Speaker 1: version right after I fired him because I had a
- 44:56Speaker 1: feeling it was going to happen. Started putting some stuff together.
- 44:59Speaker 1: Filled my first one. Now I'm on my third one.
- 45:02Speaker 1: As I've been adding and removing people and I have
- 45:04Speaker 1: a dark horse. Actually, I got two. One is more
- 45:09Speaker 1: so because I think it'll be interesting if they... It
- 45:14Speaker 1: will be a fascinating sequence to lead to this moment, Coop.
- 45:18Speaker 1: Very fascinating sequence. I want to talk about that. Plus,
- 45:20Speaker 1: I want to talk about who my real dark horse is.
- 45:23Speaker 1: Thank y'all, of course, for pulling up. Hit the like button.
- 45:26Speaker 1: If you're new to the channel, subscribe, rate, review, give
- 45:28Speaker 1: us five stars. And this is my big board right now.
- 45:33Speaker 1: This is version three. I will add a, I have
- 45:39Speaker 1: a V4 probably on Sunday or V5 by then. Depends
- 45:44Speaker 1: on how I'm feeling and whatnot. But this is V3
- 45:49Speaker 1: for me. Big names you have on the board. You
- 45:52Speaker 1: got Robbie Zell over there at Wake Forest. If you
- 45:55Speaker 1: don't know Robbie Zell, he's the one that does the
- 45:57Speaker 1: impersonations of Nick Saban, that Nick Saban actually laughed at.
- 46:04Speaker 1: He played at Alabama, quarterback wide receiver. He's a funny dude.
- 46:14Speaker 1: Joe Craddock, who I know interviewed for the job, In
- 46:21Speaker 1: the last cycle, it's him and Buster Faulkner. I have
- 46:25Speaker 1: them both on there. I got Buster Faulkner on there
- 46:27Speaker 1: because hearing rumors things ain't sunny over there in Florida
- 46:30Speaker 1: right now, even though they're winning, ain't sunny. Slade Nagel,
- 46:33Speaker 1: the OC at Houston. Think he'll be tough to pull
- 46:37Speaker 1: because he is a Willie Fritz guy and he's been
- 46:39Speaker 1: with him at Tulane and now Houston over these last
- 46:43Speaker 1: 10 years, roughly, or nine of the last 10. Barry
- 46:46Speaker 1: Looney over there at Illinois. And as you can see,
- 46:48Speaker 1: you can tell who has the most stats and all
- 46:49Speaker 1: of that in comparison to each other. Chip Kelly, of course,
- 46:52Speaker 1: is on my list. Andy Kolonecki up there at Kansas.
- 46:55Speaker 1: Liked what he did at Kansas. Didn't like what he
- 46:57Speaker 1: did at Penn State, but I think that that was
- 46:59Speaker 1: more of a James Franklin problem and not a Kolonecki problem.
- 47:03Speaker 1: Kay Bell at Pittsburgh. Chris Reister over there at Toledo.
- 47:08Speaker 1: Him and his QB are putting in work. They're doing
- 47:10Speaker 1: a very good job over there. Kevin Decker at Memphis,
- 47:15Speaker 1: if he doesn't follow Charlie Huff to another job, because
- 47:22Speaker 1: I think Huff is going to get hired somewhere, or
- 47:24Speaker 1: he ends up sticking there at Memphis. My dark horse,
- 47:28Speaker 1: name out of nowhere that I'm really intrigued with, that
- 47:32Speaker 1: I think would be a good option, Coop. David Shaw,
- 47:36Speaker 1: former head coach at Stanford. He works for the Detroit
- 47:39Speaker 1: Lions now. on their offense. He's been there for a
- 47:42Speaker 1: couple years. So he's working in the NFL, shockingly, because
- 47:46Speaker 1: the NFL's been trying to get him to be a
- 47:48Speaker 1: head coach there for years, and he refused to do it.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Decided to go in there and do the, he works,
- 47:54Speaker 1: like I said, for the Lions. And then, of course,
- 47:55Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury, not the air raid version of him, the
- 48:00Speaker 1: NFL version where he runs the ball a lot is
- 48:03Speaker 1: an extremely fascinating pickup. So, Coop, have you been thinking
- 48:09Speaker 1: about coaches so far?
- 48:11Speaker 2: Yeah, and my preface is we are going to hit
- 48:16Speaker 2: the end of the season. Job shuffling is going to happen.
- 48:20Speaker 2: And so some names on here are going to get
- 48:23Speaker 2: taken away. But I know for a fact that OU
- 48:27Speaker 2: has been fielding a lot of calls to this point
- 48:31Speaker 2: about the OC job. There are a lot of people
- 48:33Speaker 2: who are interested because it's a given. If you can
- 48:38Speaker 2: come in and work under Brent Venable's, you know that
- 48:41Speaker 2: your defense is going to be legitimate. You have yourself
- 48:44Speaker 2: a good offense, you're getting a job. You've talked about it.
- 48:47Speaker 2: You have a good offensive coordinator. I think that you
- 48:50Speaker 2: got two or three years of that person. Two years
- 48:54Speaker 2: if it's good. Three years if maybe the first year
- 48:57Speaker 2: starts a little bit slower. But, you know, my caveat
- 49:01Speaker 2: on there, Jay, is it can't be much slower than
- 49:03Speaker 2: what we've seen around here. So a slow offense for
- 49:06Speaker 2: a normal team is probably a really good upgrade for us. Yeah.
- 49:11Speaker 2: I like you, Zell. Chip Kelly is one that I've
- 49:16Speaker 2: thrown out the neck brace. I've thrown out Chip Kelly
- 49:18Speaker 2: you know, up to this point because, you know, as
- 49:20Speaker 2: a joke, you know, weeks ago. But now I'm like,
- 49:23Speaker 2: I really like Colton Necky. I have some concerns because
- 49:31Speaker 2: I have seen when he's got a good quarterback, it's elite.
- 49:35Speaker 2: And when the quarterback is struggling, you know, It hasn't
- 49:39Speaker 2: looked super elite, but they've scored, I mean, obviously more
- 49:42Speaker 2: points than what we've seen around here. And then Kate Bell.
- 49:47Speaker 2: I mean, those are my four that I think are
- 49:50Speaker 2: great options there. David Shaw is one that when you
- 49:55Speaker 2: said that, that's one that I don't think would be
- 49:59Speaker 2: super sexy for a lot of people until you start
- 50:02Speaker 2: pointing out the fact that he works with the Detroit
- 50:04Speaker 2: Lions offense. Um, just, you know, just that's a, that's a,
- 50:08Speaker 2: that's a very, very sexy feeling right there because if
- 50:11Speaker 2: you can tend to think like Jared Goff is who
- 50:13Speaker 2: he is, right. Uh, you know, number one pick out
- 50:16Speaker 2: of Cal, um, you know, he gets traded at, you know,
- 50:19Speaker 2: for Stafford, you feel like, you know, maybe they got
- 50:24Speaker 2: fleeced on that deal. Jared Goff's done. I mean, Jared
- 50:27Speaker 2: Goff's my starter on three of my fantasy teams. Like
- 50:30Speaker 2: he is a guy who I think a lot of
- 50:31Speaker 2: people Um, didn't expect this much out of, but he's
- 50:34Speaker 2: got some great weapons around him. You got Jameer Gibbs,
- 50:37Speaker 2: you got Amon Ross, St. Brown, Jameson Williams, uh, LaPorta.
- 50:40Speaker 2: You got a pretty good offensive line. Um, that would
- 50:43Speaker 2: be a, that'd be something a lot of people might,
- 50:45Speaker 2: you know, find interesting here at OU.
- 50:47Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it is. And I see some of y'all's
- 50:49Speaker 1: questions about some of the people that I've selected. Let
- 50:51Speaker 1: me go ahead and answer those real quick. Um, No,
- 50:55Speaker 1: Mike Norvell, absolutely not. Have zero interest in Mike Norvell
- 50:58Speaker 1: after all the stuff that's happened there at Florida State.
- 51:01Speaker 1: I have not heard good things about him on the
- 51:03Speaker 1: recruiting side there. And no, no, no, no. Let that
- 51:08Speaker 1: man go figure out what he's going to do with himself.
- 51:10Speaker 1: I'll let him figure out his life. Let me see. Kai,
- 51:17Speaker 1: I saw what you mentioned in here about G.J. Kinney. G.J. Kinney. Yeah, G.J. Kinney.
- 51:26Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to leave a head coaching
- 51:28Speaker 1: job to come here to make maybe $ 100, 000 more. Doesn't
- 51:32Speaker 1: make any sense, especially because heard he's in the front
- 51:35Speaker 1: running for one of those Texas jobs that are opening up.
- 51:38Speaker 1: You got Baylor right now. I expect TCU to come
- 51:42Speaker 1: open as well at the end of the season. He's
- 51:44Speaker 1: going to be in high demand. Going to be hard
- 51:46Speaker 1: to get him when he can go get a head
- 51:48Speaker 1: coaching job. That's why he's not on my list. Bobby
- 51:51Speaker 1: Petrino is an interesting one. I have been thinking about that.
- 51:54Speaker 1: I am curious to how that goes there at North Carolina.
- 51:57Speaker 1: Would it be worth it? That one is an intriguing one.
- 52:01Speaker 1: for me uh there yeah gj makes only two mil
- 52:06Speaker 1: you'd have to pay him the highest oc right now
- 52:09Speaker 1: makes 2.2 so you pay him 2.3 and then he
- 52:13Speaker 1: gets a head coaching job to make six i think
- 52:16Speaker 1: he's taking a head coaching job because he's already a
- 52:18Speaker 1: head coach why would you come here to be an
- 52:19Speaker 1: oc to go be a head coach when you could
- 52:22Speaker 1: be a head coach like you're already a head coach
- 52:25Speaker 1: I would understand if he wasn't there at Texas State
- 52:30Speaker 1: and everybody's watching him. If he wasn't at Texas State
- 52:34Speaker 1: and he has all these eyes in that state looking
- 52:36Speaker 1: at him, totally would see about it. I don't see
- 52:39Speaker 1: him leaving a head coaching job to come here. To
- 52:43Speaker 1: be an OC when he's going to get a head
- 52:45Speaker 1: coaching job somewhere else. People don't just leave head coaching
- 52:49Speaker 1: jobs at that age. He's early. He is like mid
- 52:52Speaker 1: to late 30s. If this was like Chip Kelly's day,
- 52:56Speaker 1: like a 45, 55-year-old dude, something like Gus Malzahn did,
- 53:00Speaker 1: I'd totally say yeah. They did it because they were
- 53:03Speaker 1: tired of dealing with being all the work of a
- 53:06Speaker 1: head coach. He's like, I just want to coach one
- 53:07Speaker 1: side of the ball. G.J. wants to be a head coach.
- 53:11Speaker 1: Don't see him leaving because he's also being successful. So
- 53:14Speaker 1: he's not going to leave that job. I 100% would
- 53:18Speaker 1: take the bet on him not leaving that job for
- 53:20Speaker 1: a coordinator job. when he can be a head coach.
- 53:25Speaker 1: He is 100% getting another head coaching job if he
- 53:28Speaker 1: wants it. So, not gonna waste my time with that one.
- 53:32Speaker 1: But Petrino is interesting. I'm curious what things are gonna
- 53:34Speaker 1: happen there at North Carolina. Now, Robby Zell was a
- 53:39Speaker 1: very interesting one to me right now, Coop, because a
- 53:42Speaker 1: very funny thing could happen with the Robby Zell situation.
- 53:46Speaker 1: Let me explain. So, right now, because Florida State fired Norvell,
- 53:52Speaker 1: On their top of their list, Manny Diaz at Duke
- 53:55Speaker 1: is on their list. And Jake Dickard is also high
- 54:00Speaker 1: on their list. Dickard is the head coach over at
- 54:03Speaker 1: Wake Forest, where Robby Zell is at. Found out that
- 54:10Speaker 1: the coaches at Wake Forest, the assistant coaches, that is,
- 54:14Speaker 1: all have a clause in their contract, a non-compete, that
- 54:18Speaker 1: if they go to another ACC school, they got to
- 54:20Speaker 1: sit out for a year. So that, to me, means
- 54:25Speaker 1: if Dicker takes the job at Florida State, nobody's following him.
- 54:29Speaker 1: But Coop, who was his offensive coordinator before he took
- 54:33Speaker 1: the Wake Forest job?
- 54:36Speaker 2: Oh, no. Bad podcasting. Give me the answer.
- 54:43Speaker 1: Ben Arbuckle. He was his offensive coordinator at Washington State.
- 54:46Speaker 1: So if he goes to Florida State, brings Ben Arbuckle
- 54:49Speaker 1: with him, which means two quarterback recruits that are there
- 54:52Speaker 1: that left because of Ben could be available.
- 54:56Speaker 2: One.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Two, Robbie Zell is going to be homeless for the
- 54:59Speaker 1: most part unless he gets the Wake Forest job as
- 55:01Speaker 1: a head coach. My point is that's an option. I
- 55:05Speaker 1: think that would be a very funny development if something
- 55:07Speaker 1: like that happened, that Ben ends up at– Ben ends
- 55:12Speaker 1: up there at Florida State with Dickert.
- 55:17Speaker 2: Well, and with Jaden O'Neal.
- 55:20Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Jaden O'Neal and Kevin Sperry.
- 55:22Speaker 2: And Kevin Sperry.
- 55:23Speaker 1: Neither one of them will be there. I'm just going
- 55:25Speaker 1: to say that now.
- 55:27Speaker 2: Okay, so here's a couple things because I'm seeing in
- 55:30Speaker 2: the chat here. Watkins, I'm with you. Like, if we
- 55:36Speaker 2: lose out on a Buster Faulkner situation again over $ 200, 000, $ 300, 000, like,
- 55:42Speaker 2: I will be pissed. Do we ever find that one
- 55:45Speaker 2: out a hundred percent? No, we don't. But you pay whoever, whatever,
- 55:49Speaker 2: you know, whatever we need to do to get this situation.
- 55:52Speaker 2: I do think that Bill Biedenboe is probably going to,
- 55:56Speaker 2: I don't think it's a situation where we fire Bill
- 56:00Speaker 2: Biedenboe and cast him into the sun. I think it's
- 56:02Speaker 2: a situation where he may retire and be an assistant
- 56:07Speaker 2: grad assistant or not a grad assistant, but like a,
- 56:09Speaker 2: you know, a special assistant type of a deal. I
- 56:11Speaker 2: think he'll have a place temporarily, if nothing else, with
- 56:16Speaker 2: the university. We talked about this before. Fix the damn team, Jay.
- 56:22Speaker 2: I don't care who stays and who goes. I am
- 56:26Speaker 2: at that spot personally that if you can get a
- 56:30Speaker 2: functional offense in here and that OC says, I have
- 56:32Speaker 2: every single position coach coming with me, I want to
- 56:35Speaker 2: bring them non-negotiable, do it. I don't care. There's not
- 56:39Speaker 2: one recruit that we have right now that should delay
- 56:43Speaker 2: any of that nonsense. Now, that being said, I bet
- 56:46Speaker 2: you there's a lot of people who are like, I'll
- 56:49Speaker 2: work with Jason Witten, and I bet you there's a
- 56:51Speaker 2: lot of people who are like, yeah, I saw what
- 56:53Speaker 2: the draft just showed up there, which Darren Price and Jeremiah, yeah,
- 56:57Speaker 2: I'm fine with that too. Now, as far as Emma Jones,
- 57:03Speaker 2: I'm assuming that if he is employed still by the
- 57:07Speaker 2: end of the first game, At the end of the
- 57:09Speaker 2: last game this season, I would be very, very surprised.
- 57:12Speaker 2: But yeah, the OC needs to have carte blanche, do
- 57:16Speaker 2: whatever they want to do. If we're going to bring
- 57:18Speaker 2: him in, let's do it the right way. I am
- 57:20Speaker 2: not okay with saying, hey, listen, putting a mandate out
- 57:24Speaker 2: there and say you can bring anybody besides your tight
- 57:26Speaker 2: end and running backs coach because we want to keep
- 57:28Speaker 2: what we have going on here. Like I am. And
- 57:31Speaker 2: I don't know how that's going to play out at
- 57:32Speaker 2: the end of the year. And I'm not going to
- 57:35Speaker 2: borrow worry from tomorrow and freak out about that at
- 57:38Speaker 2: this point. But there are so many different things that
- 57:42Speaker 2: are appealing. So, you know, going back to Shaw, David
- 57:46Speaker 2: Shaw was he was a tight end using mofo at Stanford.
- 57:51Speaker 1: He really was. And I love that.
- 57:53Speaker 2: They still, they still, and look at, look at Detroit.
- 57:56Speaker 2: Detroit's running out there, all these tight ends. I mean,
- 57:59Speaker 2: Laporta is the ring leader, but then you've got to
- 58:02Speaker 2: slaw who's, you know, a receiver. And then you've got
- 58:05Speaker 2: other tight ends are out there. You know, they're running
- 58:07Speaker 2: three tight end sets. I was watching a Stanford game
- 58:10Speaker 2: earlier this year. They ran four tight ends out there,
- 58:12Speaker 2: two guys out and pass, pass routes. And I'm pretty
- 58:16Speaker 2: sure there was a five tight end set. So like,
- 58:18Speaker 2: He changed Stanford football for the longest time, and it's
- 58:21Speaker 2: still out there. Also being a black dude, that has
- 58:25Speaker 2: a big part to play too. But one of the
- 58:28Speaker 2: biggest deals with him is, hey, we've got a GM
- 58:31Speaker 2: and we've got a crew that can help take away
- 58:34Speaker 2: some of the recruiting stuff. Whatever you want to do,
- 58:37Speaker 2: there is a lot to that. Now, we're not the
- 58:41Speaker 2: only program with that, so everybody else is going to
- 58:43Speaker 2: have that to offer too. But that's why an NFL
- 58:46Speaker 2: guy might come back down to the college ranks to
- 58:49Speaker 2: coach and to go do those things. Um, that being said, yeah,
- 58:52Speaker 2: I mean, I've got, um, there, there's so many good
- 58:55Speaker 2: names here. I'm assuming that there's probably a list in
- 59:00Speaker 2: the 50 range of people who, uh, who are gathering information,
- 59:04Speaker 2: seeing what's out there, doing those types of things. It
- 59:09Speaker 2: doesn't matter because you know that the university has a...
- 59:14Speaker 2: If you're thinking appropriately, the university goes, this is probably
- 59:20Speaker 2: going to be something if we don't get right, it
- 59:23Speaker 2: could be four years before we're back to a spot
- 59:27Speaker 2: where we want to be. And That's very expensive to do.
- 59:32Speaker 2: So you give everybody what the money that you're... Now, obviously,
- 59:35Speaker 2: you don't want to give a million more than anybody
- 59:37Speaker 2: else is offering, but you be super, super competitive, and
- 59:40Speaker 2: you get people in here. But, Jay, lastly, where's BritVitables from? Kansas.
- 59:48Speaker 2: So I would watch Koltanecki. I'm still right there on...
- 59:53Speaker 2: He's got that Kansas connection. Just watch Koltanecki because... Revenables
- 59:58Speaker 2: knows that he's coached there. He's know that he's recruited
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: in that area. And that's an area that he wants
- 1:00:02Speaker 2: to continue to do a good job in. And he's
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: recruited Texas, too. And so I'm pretty I'm pretty, I guess,
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: triggered here with the Colton Necky, because I think that
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: that that makes a lot of sense. But there's so
- 1:00:17Speaker 2: many good names on your list.
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: So.
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: I can probably make.
- 1:00:19Speaker 1: He's from the north play ball in Minnesota. Wisconsin is
- 1:00:22Speaker 1: where he played college ball as a center. He's kind
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: of like Levy. But yeah, he's been at Kansas. He
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: was at Kansas for a few years. I think he
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: was in consideration, but he took the Penn State job
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: and it just didn't work out. And what you call
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: it got, you know, James Franklin got fired. Remember, James
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: Franklin is also an offensive guy. So that's also something
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: to keep in mind, but this was also a good question.
- 1:00:43Speaker 1: J Mark fire asked this one a bit ago. What
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: if we hired an OC and not get any new
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: position coaches? I think that because to me, this is
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: the final opportunity, final chance of hire for Brent Venables,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: whoever he brings it at OC, he's going to let
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: them make the decision because this is it. This is
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: the last one. You have one good hire in your three.
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: Levy was fantastic. He irked us a lot in a
- 1:01:07Speaker 1: lot of ways, but, But he was also a part
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: of the startup. But Lebby was fantastic. As you continue
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: to rip the studs, Latrell was terrible. Actually, he was awful.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: And Arbuckle was eh. He had a decent season last year,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: but he couldn't get over himself this year. You bring
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: in an OC, you better let them hire who they want.
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: You better let them... The only person you could probably
- 1:01:31Speaker 1: say is untouchable would be Whitten. But I don't think...
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: The thing is, he's a tight end coach. So they're...
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: You would want to hang on to him just because
- 1:01:42Speaker 1: of his capabilities as a tight end coach. His name
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: is going to keep him the job. So but another
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: question that was good is the like I get everybody's
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: thoughts on the G.J. Kenny. I like him. I don't
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: get it twisted, but I also think he's good, which
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: means he's going to get a head coaching job. Every
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: job that's open right now, the focus point focal point
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: will be an offensive minded coach. I can guarantee that.
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: I can guarantee that because that is the fastest turnaround
- 1:02:08Speaker 1: you'll get at any school. If you hire a defensive guy,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: you're on a four-year plan because you got to get
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: the defense up. And an unfortunate thing is you'll probably
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: lose a couple offensive coordinators because other schools are like,
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: screw it. I just want quick. Let's get a quick
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: thing going. But that's why you see so many more
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: offensive guys hired than defensive guys because they want quick
- 1:02:27Speaker 1: turnarounds and then the defense suffers. BV's going to have
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: to let this OC bring in whoever the heck they
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: want to make that happen. So I expect whoever the
- 1:02:37Speaker 1: OC come in, he's probably gonna bring an O-line coach
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: with him. Cause they usually bring an O-line coach to
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: work the way they do it. Go look at Kendall
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: Browse who did that at South Carolina. He brought a
- 1:02:45Speaker 1: Randy Clement with him from TCU over, brought an O-line
- 1:02:49Speaker 1: coach that focuses the way it does things the same
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: as him. Um, The wide receiver spot, I don't know
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: what that's going to look like. That's going to be
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: a big question. But again, the OC should have the
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: ability to make all those decisions. Don't do like you
- 1:03:01Speaker 1: did last time where, yeah, you need to keep it,
- 1:03:05Speaker 1: keep everybody. But that was also a good point here
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: by Jesse on the fact that we don't, we not,
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: we not, we've already paid the Big 12 back. We
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: actually now getting our full check from the SEC now.
- 1:03:18Speaker 1: We get our full check. So we good. We actually
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: back to the funding that we needed to be at
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: because us in Texas took pay cuts to come to
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: the SEC early just so we can get the move
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: over with. Besides that, as we prepare for the injury
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: report to populate, that's going to show up here in
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: about five minutes. So thank y'all for pulling up. Of course,
- 1:03:40Speaker 1: hit the like button if you're new to the channel. Subscribe. Rate, review,
- 1:03:43Speaker 1: give us five stars. Whomever you hire has to be
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: able to bring, like I said, bring their own people.
- 1:03:52Speaker 1: That's going to be the most important thing. And you
- 1:03:56Speaker 1: just ride with whatever they ride with. Like, I don't
- 1:03:59Speaker 1: want to, I don't want to pigeonhole them into anything.
- 1:04:04Speaker 1: And I don't care. To me, everybody on staff is
- 1:04:07Speaker 1: based upon who they are. It don't matter. Yeah, the
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: Baylor job is better. Head coaching job is better gig
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: than Oklahoma OC. Yes, it is. A head coaching job
- 1:04:19Speaker 1: where you're going to make three times as much money
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: and you make all the decisions? Absolutely. And Baylor's private,
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: so you don't really know what they're making, but I
- 1:04:28Speaker 1: know that they're making. I think Aranda was making at
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: least six or seven a year. Yeah, why would I
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: take two and a half or three when I can
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: make six or seven? Yes, Baylor is a better head
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: coaching job.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: You get control.
- 1:04:41Speaker 1: And you probably, if you do good in the Big 12,
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: which is wide open, you probably make the playoffs.
- 1:04:47Speaker 2: Especially, and Jay, here's another thing that is being absolutely
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: lost here. We go to 24 teams, and everything changes
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: in the playoffs. So if you go to Baylor, and
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: you somehow get yourself up to a 9-3 season, you're
- 1:05:06Speaker 2: in the playoffs. You're in the playoffs. Also, you're recruiting Texas.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: And that's a big thing, too. So....
- 1:05:14Speaker 1: Jason, we'll just disagree, dog, because you're not going to
- 1:05:17Speaker 1: change my mind that Baylor's not a better job. Baylor
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: is much better. It's definitely a better job than an
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: offensive coordinator job anywhere. Because that's the goal for most
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: of these young dudes is to be a head coach.
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: And you don't want to be one in waiting because
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: you never know when people are going to leave.
- 1:05:31Speaker 2: Nobody dreams to be the vice president of the company.
- 1:05:34Speaker 2: They want to own the company. They want to run
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: the company.
- 1:05:36Speaker 1: Especially if you're going to have to own a relief one.
- 1:05:38Speaker 2: That's it. Yes. Now, in personal opinions, Jason, could you say, like,
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: I'm not going to say that you're absolutely unequivocally without
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: a shadow of a doubt to every person in the
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: world dead wrong but at the same time if we're
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: talking about G.J. Kinney he's going there he's not going
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: to come here because it's an easier path to your
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: next game going through Baylor whereas you come here and
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: I mean people are going to be pissed if you
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: go 9-3 or 10-2.
- 1:06:13Speaker 1: Even with that, think about it this way too. Why
- 1:06:17Speaker 1: do you think you're hearing so much Texas talk, Texas
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: teams talk about Lincoln Riley? Why do you think the
- 1:06:26Speaker 1: TCU job, if it ever opens, Texas Tech job, if
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: it ever opens, or Baylor now, because it's open. I
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: remember hearing Baylor last year, if they had fired Aranda.
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: Why do you think those jobs are being talked about
- 1:06:37Speaker 1: for Link? He's running to a place where it's a
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: lot easier for him to do his job. You can
- 1:06:43Speaker 1: go to the Big 12 and just have these explosive
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: offenses and never play defenses and you'll win a bunch
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: of games. You actually may win your conference. I've watched
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: tech struggle. I've watched BYU struggle against certain offenses. I've
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: seen it. It just happens. The thing is, is that
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: there's a very smaller percentage of really good defensive players
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: compared to offensive guys. So teams can feel these great
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: offenses and they'll struggle getting defenses. There's very few Georgias
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: out there, right? So to me, if I have an
- 1:07:14Speaker 1: easier path, why would I go through the SEC if
- 1:07:17Speaker 1: I don't have to, unless I'm getting an SEC head
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: coaching job? Why do you think Lebby left and got
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: him a head coaching job when he could? Dave Aranda's
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: a great example. He left a natty winning LSU to
- 1:07:26Speaker 1: become a head coach. A lot of these dudes want
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: to be a head coach. Now, there are coaches that
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: will say, yeah, I'm kind of tired of being a
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: head coach. I want to do something. I just want
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: to step back and just chill. Or they have ambitions
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: to go to the NFL. Like Chip is the great
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: example of a coach that is done with being a
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: head coach. He has gone everywhere possible to be an OC.
- 1:07:48Speaker 1: He's like, hey man, just let me call offenses. Who
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: was it? Malzahn was the exact same way. I'm tired
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: of running these offenses. I'm tired of recruiting and all the,
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: just let me call plays. That's it. Just let me
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: call plays and that's it.
- 1:08:04Speaker 2: I mean, obviously it's in the eyes of the beholder.
- 1:08:06Speaker 2: At the end of the day, What do these people want?
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: If you're a G.J., you are going for the up-and-coming stuff.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: Yeah, he's still young. If he wasn't young, I'd totally agree.
- 1:08:15Speaker 1: But he's too young for me to even think that
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: he'd be like, nah. I just want to sell and
- 1:08:20Speaker 1: be an O.C.
- 1:08:21Speaker 2: Nah.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: Too ambitious.
- 1:08:23Speaker 2: Because he goes to Baylor, he fails. He gets an O.C.
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: job right away. He goes to O.U. and he fails
- 1:08:31Speaker 2: as the O.C., You're stuck at Texas State or something
- 1:08:35Speaker 2: like that for the rest of your career because people
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: saw you try it in that and it didn't work.
- 1:08:41Speaker 1: 37 years old. The dude's young. Carnate word for a
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: year in Texas State. I mean, all he wants to
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: do is he wants to just call plays, possibly. I
- 1:08:50Speaker 1: guess you could say call in plays, but we'll see
- 1:08:53Speaker 1: what it looks like. All right. Injury report is out there,
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: and that bad boy is long. Good Lord. That is
- 1:09:03Speaker 1: a long list. Let me go ahead and pull that
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: up for the people for y'all to look at it.
- 1:09:12Speaker 1: All right. Here's your availability report. Oklahoma sitting here. Taylor Heim,
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: of course. Dakota Fields is still out. Foggia is still out.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: Rocky Beers is now questionable. Elijah Thomas and EPL are
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: both on the doubtful side. Elijah and Peyton are both
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: still questionable. Jermichael Carter is questionable. And Mikla is probable. Coop,
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: what you think?
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Well, I see Kenny Oswulu in there, too. Um, maybe he,
- 1:09:46Speaker 2: we haven't seen him cause he's been hurt. Uh, I
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: do want to know what the hell happened to Dakota
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: fields and Trenay Washington. Cause I feel like they kind of, uh,
- 1:09:55Speaker 2: they kind of just appeared and, uh, teleported into that outlist. But, um,
- 1:10:01Speaker 2: I guess it is what it is. Um, I mean,
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: getting Michael back is, um, I still believe that Michael
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: is your best chance on the offensive line from the
- 1:10:15Speaker 2: center position. I don't really think that Nitta really... He's
- 1:10:22Speaker 2: got the size. He doesn't have the size for it.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: So excited to see them. I hope that Eli moves
- 1:10:30Speaker 2: back towards the probable side finally. I would like to
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: see him get back in there and be healthy. they're
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: dealing with a lot of wide receiver. I think Vernell
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: Brown III is he still showing out? Doubtful. Vernell Brown III, receiver.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: Yeah, Vernell Brown is doubtful, and that's a big hurt
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: for them.
- 1:10:51Speaker 2: And Stockton. Yeah, and Stockton is kind of their Drake
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: Stoops kind of glue receiver. He's been hurt for a
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: minute too. But, I mean, this is one of the
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: reasons why their offense is struggling is because they have
- 1:11:04Speaker 2: had quite a bit on the injury front from the
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: wide receiver spot. And I don't see ball on there,
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: so that's good for them and only the one offensive lineman.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: So for us, I mean, it's more of the same.
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: Yeah. It's just, it is what it is. I'll see
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: what this looks like on Friday because I know everybody's
- 1:11:26Speaker 1: going to shift. Peyton's going to play again. He played
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: last week. He's going to probably play. I'm ready to
- 1:11:31Speaker 1: see if Eli's back. I'm assuming he'll probably get downgraded.
- 1:11:35Speaker 1: We'll see what that ankle's like. I hate that Sully
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: is out. Definitely wanted him to play in this game.
- 1:11:40Speaker 1: He'd been important. Love to get Elijah Thomas back, but
- 1:11:43Speaker 1: maybe we get more carry on and more Manny Choice action.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: Get that going because we could definitely use it. Mikela, though,
- 1:11:51Speaker 1: is probably the bigger one to me. Like you said,
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: I would like Mikela back for this game. But I
- 1:11:56Speaker 1: did like what Nitta gave us. The line was pretty solid.
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: Those pockets were nice. Those pockets were really nice.
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: There's been a lot of stuff out there about John
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: bailing out on the pocket when it was clean, when
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: it was protecting him, and missing guys downfield. So, you know,
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: though the offensive line has been pretty terrible, In pass pro,
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: there's been a lot out there. Now, you obviously got
- 1:12:24Speaker 2: to see the play better. The offensive line just in general,
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: if Asusi had probably the worst day that you can
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: have as a left tackle, there was a lot of
- 1:12:34Speaker 2: him falling down. A lot of that had to do
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: with the field. If I'm Florida, hell, I have somebody
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: with garden hose out watering down the field Friday morning,
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: Friday afternoon, Friday evening, Saturday morning, because it looks like
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: the OU defense struggles with a wet field. um but
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: um uh but yeah i mean listen there's there's nobody
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: on our report uh you know in the magnitude of
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: like a malachi tony and that stuff that's happening down
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: in miami right now which that's good uh but i'm
- 1:13:03Speaker 2: just ready to not have half the roster on the.
- 1:13:06Speaker 1: Report yeah you know we'll all the same people we've
- 1:13:11Speaker 1: seen for a while so I just hope Foggia comes
- 1:13:14Speaker 1: back for Ole Miss. I know that ankle injury is
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: pretty bad, but I would like to get Foggia back
- 1:13:22Speaker 1: here for the last few games of the season in
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: preparation for the big run. But that, my friends, is
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: our injury report. Looks like it's going to be a
- 1:13:33Speaker 1: very interesting next few days. Thank y'all, of course, for
- 1:13:36Speaker 1: pulling up.
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: Hit.
- 1:13:38Speaker 1: That like button if you're new to the channel. Subscribe. Rate,
- 1:13:40Speaker 1: review gives five stars. Who's cooking brisket? Somebody make me
- 1:13:43Speaker 1: some brisket. Yeah, Lemon, make us some brisket.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: Not from Muleshoe, Texas.
- 1:13:51Speaker 1: True Oaky, he got hurt. See, EPL hurt his leg
- 1:13:54Speaker 1: in practice right before Texas. I think he got rolled
- 1:13:57Speaker 1: up on. He was walking around on a crutch.
- 1:14:01Speaker 2: A boot.
- 1:14:02Speaker 1: A crutch and a boot at the... coin toss. And
- 1:14:10Speaker 1: he was talking smack to Colin Simmons. Like he's going
- 1:14:12Speaker 1: to go on the field. I'm like, EPA, this is
- 1:14:14Speaker 1: your butt down. Go, uh, go chill. But I know.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: Thank y'all for joining us as usual. We'll be back.
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