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Press Pass | Udinski & Tuten on Play-Calling, RB Room Ascension · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: All right, it's going to be all for a little
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  Speaker 1: bits that create opportunities for for third down.
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  Speaker 2: For really all the backs.
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  Speaker 1: I think those backs have progressed really well, especially these
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: past couple weeks in the protection game and even the
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  Speaker 1: past game, and I think you look at that room,
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  Speaker 1: they've kind of been by committee in the run game.
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  Speaker 2: It's the same thing in the.
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  Speaker 1: Past game, whether it's third down or it's two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: second and long.
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  Speaker 2: I think all of them have ability and value to add.
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  Speaker 3: Jamari Taylor had a big game the other night.
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  Speaker 4: That's probably Lequin's absence probably gives him the biggest opportunity
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  Speaker 4: ago right.
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  Speaker 2: To move forward. I would think it gives all the backs.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, it's great to see Jamari's progression in
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  Speaker 1: the run game there. I think you really saw it
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  Speaker 1: highlighted in the game, but even out here at practice
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  Speaker 1: you see him picking up the protection system. He's a
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  Speaker 1: sharp guy who works hard and studies at it, as
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  Speaker 1: does c Rod and Tuton and Emir that they all
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  Speaker 1: really have embraced all the roles of playing running back,
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  Speaker 1: which is a unique aspect of that room. Because we
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  Speaker 1: know that the protection aspect is a little less glorious
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  Speaker 1: and going out there and running for a touchdown. So
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  Speaker 1: it's exciting to have that group of guys who are
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  Speaker 1: hard nosed and willing to stick, you know, go in
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  Speaker 1: there and block a linebacker or a defensive end if
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  Speaker 1: they have to in the pass pro game, the.
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  Speaker 2: Carter operation wise, the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: It was great to see car to get out there
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  Speaker 1: and get some live action, especially because you can try
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  Speaker 1: to simulate as much as you want in training camp,
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  Speaker 1: but until you're really gonna get hit by a defensive
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  Speaker 1: end or a defensive tackle or a linebacker, it's not
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  Speaker 1: the real thing. It's not truly full speed until you
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  Speaker 1: get there in.
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  Speaker 2: That preseason game.
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  Speaker 1: So it's great to see him go out there with
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  Speaker 1: the guys. Have some moments where we struggled as an
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  Speaker 1: offense collectively in the first half, but he responded, came
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  Speaker 1: out well and played in the second half.
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  Speaker 5: When you're working through some of the things along the
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  Speaker 5: offensive line, like right now, does that impact you say
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  Speaker 5: as a play caller, maybe this unit, you know, running
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  Speaker 5: this play together, this guy running from this position so
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  Speaker 5: and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, certainly something you want to keep in mind. Ideally,
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  Speaker 1: we would not have to throw a rookie out there
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  Speaker 1: at right tackle, as on the second play of a
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  Speaker 1: preseason game. So that certainly impacts your plan for sure,
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  Speaker 1: But I love the way those guys embraced it. Even
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  Speaker 1: at practice, you see the guys moving around to different spots.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody's playing inside, they're playing outside, the playing left, they're
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  Speaker 1: playing right. So I've probably said this one hundred times,
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate that we have guys that can play those different spots,
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  Speaker 1: but you certainly keep it in mind to try to
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  Speaker 1: give guys maybe a little bit less challenging downs than
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  Speaker 1: had they gone out there and you're just running the
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  Speaker 1: plays blindly.
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  Speaker 5: Have you seen Emmanuel kind of progress from you know,
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  Speaker 5: when you guys first got him into you know, up
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  Speaker 5: to his performance on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: I think that you see the physicality, you see the strength,
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  Speaker 1: you see the athleticism, you see the speed, and he's
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  Speaker 1: able to showcase that stuff now because he has a
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  Speaker 1: better understanding of the system, a better understanding of his rules.
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  Speaker 1: When there's shifts and adjustments and movement by the defense
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  Speaker 1: and we're making communication and calls out there, the processing
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  Speaker 1: of that is just that much quicker, and it's a
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  Speaker 1: credit to his studying effort. It's all the extra work
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  Speaker 1: that he does with Coach Mendelssohn after practice or at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Coach Pacucci, coach direct do
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  Speaker 1: a great job preparing him, and he puts in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of extra work on his own time. I see
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  Speaker 1: him in here at the facility. I'll take a stroll
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  Speaker 1: downstairs and it's ten block a night, and I'm expecting
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  Speaker 1: it's only the cleaning crews around, but it's a man
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  Speaker 1: you'll rolling around through the locker room just finishing up
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  Speaker 1: his recovery work. So I probably don't have enough good
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  Speaker 1: things to say about a guy like that.
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  Speaker 6: Are you looking for most this week?
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  Speaker 5: And with the Panthers coming in to work out with you, guys,
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  Speaker 5: what are you looking for working with them?
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  Speaker 1: It's really a similar evaluation process for whether it's the Panthers,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's the Bucks or the Saints, or just us
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  Speaker 1: working good on good because we are still so focused
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  Speaker 1: on finding out who we are as an offense. So
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  Speaker 1: it's a great opportunity to go against another opponent and
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  Speaker 1: try to see a different defense, try to see how
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  Speaker 1: different matchups play out. But it's really still about the
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  Speaker 1: evaluation of what do our guys do well, what do
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  Speaker 1: we need to improve on, how do we want to
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  Speaker 1: execute our system? What things do we want to change
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  Speaker 1: within the system or evolve and grow. So we're still
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  Speaker 1: in that time of year where we're focused on our
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  Speaker 1: offense more so than game planning another defense.
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  Speaker 4: Rodriguez as he's been ramped up. You know, how has
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  Speaker 4: that impacted what you're wanting to do in practice here?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that it's necessarily changed the plan
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  Speaker 1: a whole lot, because we've had plans for Sea Rouds
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  Speaker 1: since the moment he's gotten here. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: just allowed us to practice some of those things that
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  Speaker 1: we know we want to highlight him in a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more than maybe we had held back on earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Because you are focused on your personnel, you're running certain
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  Speaker 1: plays or past concepts to certain guys, and if Twoton
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  Speaker 1: or another back gets ten of one run scheme, well
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  Speaker 1: we might take a break on it for a while
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  Speaker 1: until Sierra gets back and he gets ten reps of
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  Speaker 1: that run scheme. So you try to balance out the
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  Speaker 1: load between the running backs. Same thing with the wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: So everybody gets practiced at certain things you do the
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  Speaker 1: same thing with the old line. Left side gets a
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  Speaker 1: couple reps at a certain scheme or a certain look,
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  Speaker 1: then the right side does. So it kind of just
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  Speaker 1: changed our timing a little bit, But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that necessarily changed the plan, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 5: Liam must talk about being proud of the way the
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  Speaker 5: guys responded on Saturday. Just from your perspective, What was
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  Speaker 5: I like just to see, you know, eighteen zero second
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  Speaker 5: half the way the kind of came back and fogged.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think first of all, you gotta have a shout
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  Speaker 1: out to the defense because they they played their hearts.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they were playing so hard and that's infectious
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  Speaker 1: for the offense to see them.
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  Speaker 2: The defense, the special teams.
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  Speaker 1: The way those guys is played impacts not just our
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  Speaker 1: field position where we're getting great field position in the
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  Speaker 1: first half or the second half, but it gives the
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  Speaker 1: offense life and hope, and it allows us to get
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  Speaker 1: put together sustained drives and lets the guys cut it
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  Speaker 1: loose knowing we got faith that the defense is going
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  Speaker 1: to go back go out there and get us the
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  Speaker 1: ball back. But it was It's a lot of fun
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  Speaker 1: anytime you get to see the guys have success out
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  Speaker 1: there because you see all the hard work they put
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  Speaker 1: in out here in the heat or in there in
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  Speaker 1: the meeting rooms, and they don't always get a lot
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  Speaker 1: of reps, especially the guys who are with the threes
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  Speaker 1: and with the twos. So it's exciting to see them
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  Speaker 1: go out there and play, but then to see them
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  Speaker 1: actually have success and respond like that is really encouraging.
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  Speaker 1: It's I mean, that's kind of one of those things
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  Speaker 1: that coaching is all about. You get to see those
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  Speaker 1: guys continue to grow and develop and then see the
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  Speaker 1: fruits of their labor come to life.
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  Speaker 5: And liams aid, starters might potentially play Friday. I mean
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  Speaker 5: for you, you know, potentially calling plays with Trevor BT like that,
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  Speaker 5: is that something that you're excited for.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see how things shake out. I'll li Liam
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  Speaker 2: make those decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's who's calling plays or whether who's playing in
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  Speaker 1: the game, that's that's up to him. So I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: for the game either way. I know I'll be there
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  Speaker 1: and we'll figure it out. Whenever Liam says.
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  Speaker 4: Your favorite play call from Saturday, Pooh, I don't know
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  Speaker 4: that I had a favorite play call.
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  Speaker 2: Man that's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell you which ones aren't my favorite. That's
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  Speaker 1: probably an easier question for sure. Honestly, one of the
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  Speaker 1: things it wasn't a great play call, but the guys
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  Speaker 1: kind of figured out one of the red zone runs
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  Speaker 1: that Jamari kind of plunged in there at the end,
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  Speaker 1: and the play was a little jacked up. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we weren't exactly lined up the right way and didn't
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  Speaker 1: exactly have the motion the right way, but those guys
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  Speaker 1: got up there and figured it out, and we might
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  Speaker 1: have had somebody unblocked right at the point of attack.
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  Speaker 1: But the way Jamari ran the ball and the way
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  Speaker 1: the offensive line came off the ball, those are the
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  Speaker 1: most exciting plays for me. So I wish I had
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  Speaker 1: some genius play call that was unbelievably schemed up, but
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  Speaker 1: it was a little bit more about their play style
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  Speaker 1: and the termination and grit than a genius play call.
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  Speaker 6: On the contrary, handling play calling duties and have it
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  Speaker 6: being a newer thing, was there anything that didn't go
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  Speaker 6: according to plan that you had to react to on
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  Speaker 6: the fly that you won't expecting problem.
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  Speaker 1: I think what John highlighted about the injury situation is
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  Speaker 1: something that you can't perfectly prepare for. Try to do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of conditionals on if this receiver goes down,
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  Speaker 1: then this is our next receiver group, and if this
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  Speaker 1: tight end go down, this is our next tight end group.
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  Speaker 1: And how are we going to change our plays and
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  Speaker 1: change our formations based on the receivers and tight ends
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  Speaker 1: and the skill guys we have out there, because you
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  Speaker 1: only have so many reps to practice. For example, if
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  Speaker 1: you're throwing a go ball to a certain receiver, you
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  Speaker 1: can't get Joey a go ball rep with every single
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  Speaker 1: receiver on the roster, So you need to tailor those
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  Speaker 1: plays to the guys he's gotten reps and as chemistry with.
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  Speaker 1: So you build a bunch of different plans for if
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  Speaker 1: certain guys are injured, we're gonna move guys around in
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  Speaker 1: those spots. Well, it's a little bit harder on the
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  Speaker 1: O line because you don't know which group is this
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  Speaker 1: going to be now in the preseason, the first quarter,
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  Speaker 1: the second quarter to the third quarter of the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 1: where we may say this guy was going to go
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  Speaker 1: in a backup tackle, but now it's the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 1: and he's not going to go, and he's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: play the full game, so you would end up I
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  Speaker 1: think if you did all the combinations, you would have
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  Speaker 1: five hundred combinations of call sheets that I run out
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  Speaker 1: there with fifteen papers.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a little bit difficult to plan for. But thankfully, just.
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  Speaker 1: Like I talked about our guys the flexibility at the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line, they're flexibility and knowing different positions.
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  Speaker 2: Even the skill room made it a little bit easier
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  Speaker 2: on me because.
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  Speaker 4: Of the running the offensive line where there are times,
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  Speaker 4: whether it's in practice or in the game where you're like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know who the hell's out there, number, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know who it is?
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  Speaker 1: Right, No, Thankfully, thanks that I didn't go that go
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  Speaker 1: that crazy. Now, our assistant coaches, Coach Bennett, Coach More
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  Speaker 1: and those guys do a great job of communicating who's
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  Speaker 1: in the game who's not in the game. There were
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: certain times if you probably watch closely, whether they're probably
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  Speaker 1: holding guys on the sideline get ready to stub guys,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm yelling at them over the headset to make
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  Speaker 1: sure this guy's at a certain spot because we want
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  Speaker 1: to run a certain route, like for example, the double
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  Speaker 1: move that we hit Trevor on down on their sideline.
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  Speaker 1: You know, later in the game, the one that Joey
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: threw to them, he ran a little out and up
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  Speaker 1: route and almost scoring and kind of ball fell loose. Well,
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  Speaker 1: right before that play, another receiver is about to go
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  Speaker 1: in and he starts running the field and I'm screaming
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  Speaker 1: on the headset getting back out because I know Trevor's
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  Speaker 1: the guy who's got to run this route. So those
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  Speaker 1: guys did a great job getting that thing executed. So
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: when you ask about the operation, there's it's I would say,
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  Speaker 1: all eleven guys on the field, but it takes all
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  Speaker 1: eleven plus everyone on the sideline and all the coaches
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  Speaker 1: to get that thing rolling.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys.
• 9:02
  Speaker 7: Second training camp here in Jacksonville. Just how has it been,
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  Speaker 7: And you know you've had three weeks now to get
• 9:07
  Speaker 7: into it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a like you said, a year or
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  Speaker 3: two of campus always fun. You know you're back playing football,
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  Speaker 3: backgrinded with the gang. But like year two is easier.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know the playbook, so you can come
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: out here and harp on the detail more than you
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  Speaker 3: know your actual assignment. So I think this year is
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  Speaker 3: going pretty well for us.
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  Speaker 7: I know it's been a little bit since he's left,
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  Speaker 7: But is it different without TJ here Travis A Chain.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little different. You know, more of a
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  Speaker 3: workload on us. You know, we're getting a lot of
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  Speaker 3: reps now that he was taking last year. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: I think we're already in available to step up and
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  Speaker 3: that's what we've been doing.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of injuries on the offensive line.
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  Speaker 4: Does that have an effect on you, you know, understanding
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  Speaker 4: how walks are gonna be or just you know, big
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  Speaker 4: difference in the guys.
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  Speaker 5: As far as the way the injuries have affected.
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  Speaker 3: This team, I don't. I don't think it's a difference.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we're all capable and you know, the next
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  Speaker 3: guy up, we know that they're gonna go in and
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: you know, do their job the same and you know,
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  Speaker 3: give it their best, and that's what we're grind for.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's always the next man up mentality. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, no matter who's down or who's up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I still have faith and trust that we'll still execute
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  Speaker 3: as best as you can.
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  Speaker 5: A few more drug practices, you know on the schedule.
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  Speaker 5: Did you get a lot out of it? You know,
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  Speaker 5: last week against the Saints. And what do you kind
• 10:23
  Speaker 5: of enjoy about a joint practice as opposed to going
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: against like your defense every single time.
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: I think you go against a different defense, different players.
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  Speaker 3: You know, when during camp, when you go against yourself
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  Speaker 3: a lot, springball, go against yourself a lot, you learn
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  Speaker 3: your teammates tendencies and stuff like that. But you know,
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: studying and working off of, you know, someone else that
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: you're not really familiar with gives you a true, you know,
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  Speaker 3: week to week NFL season look. And I think that's
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  Speaker 3: the best thing that I take from it.
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  Speaker 5: Is it important that the running back position to kind
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  Speaker 5: of get those live reps that you can't really sometimes
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  Speaker 5: simulate just in a normal practice before we form.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it definitely is important because you can
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  Speaker 3: try to simulate, you know, whatever whatever you want you
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: could think of in a practice. But I think, like
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: you said, live bullets flying, we have to react fast.
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  Speaker 3: It's not a walk through anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta go.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's the best thing that we need
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  Speaker 3: coming into Sundays.
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  Speaker 6: What is about grants offensive schemes that are that probably
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  Speaker 6: you know, make it make it easy for you.
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  Speaker 7: Or you know, how how you handle what you do.
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  Speaker 3: In practice they drowed up pretty simple, but it's very
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  Speaker 3: complex at the same time, for a running back, it's
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  Speaker 3: pretty simple. You know, we only got x amount of
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  Speaker 3: routes x amount of runs. But I think the biggest
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  Speaker 3: thing is just harpening on the details of it. We
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: have to be on point with everything and that's the
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  Speaker 3: way you know, they coach us and we harp on
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  Speaker 3: it during practice. So I think the running back role
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  Speaker 3: for us is pretty minimized. But at the same time
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: as big expectations last.
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  Speaker 6: Season, with it being your rookie year, it's all about
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  Speaker 6: proving you belong in this league, not stepping into year two.
• 11:48
  Speaker 6: What are you hoping to prove for the season?
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  Speaker 3: Really, just who I am always been, you know, player
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  Speaker 3: growing up since young college down to the pros. Just
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  Speaker 3: you know, keep building on who I am and you know,
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  Speaker 3: my brand and uh the way I play.
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  Speaker 2: It's the biggest thing for me.
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  Speaker 7: Has it been pointing with Chris uh new guy in
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  Speaker 7: the ring.
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  Speaker 3: It's been amazing. You know, he came in, We welcome
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  Speaker 3: to him with open arms, and he's you know, hitting
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  Speaker 3: the ground, running, you know, learning as much as he can.
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  Speaker 2: And he's a great character overall.
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  Speaker 3: Cause Liam does a good job of, you know, bringing
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  Speaker 3: the right guys in, and I think we definitely deal
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  Speaker 3: with him. M