Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 4pm hour 05/14/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKBN, 407 in the afternoon. It's 55 degrees.
- 0:04Speaker 1: It's Thursday, May 14th. Dave Thomas, if you missed the
- 0:09Speaker 1: first hour of the program when I was talking to
- 0:11Speaker 1: State Rep. Dave Thomas, later tonight, go back on the
- 0:14Speaker 1: podcast and pick it up. Okay? I mean, if you
- 0:16Speaker 1: can figure that out. It doesn't get posted, I think,
- 0:19Speaker 1: until the show's over. But I want you to go
- 0:21Speaker 1: back and listen to it. You understand when I say
- 0:24Speaker 1: to you, David, how... Frustrating it is. And the first
- 0:30Speaker 1: thing is I want all Ohioans to know this stuff.
- 0:33Speaker 1: I want everyone to know about the strewing that's taking
- 0:37Speaker 1: place on Medicaid and how DeWine looked the other way
- 0:41Speaker 1: and how people, whether they're Somalians or not, stole billions
- 0:47Speaker 1: of dollars over the years. And there seems to be
- 0:53Speaker 1: no ramifications for it at all. So they can go
- 0:57Speaker 1: drive their BMW and their Mercedes and live a much
- 1:00Speaker 1: better lifestyle by stealing this money than the person who's listening,
- 1:04Speaker 1: who's retired and worked all their life and is on
- 1:06Speaker 1: Social Security, or the person that's working and could never
- 1:10Speaker 1: afford that type of lifestyle. Do you get it?
- 1:13Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. When you pay your taxes... You at the
- 1:20Speaker 2: very least expect it to be spent on what you
- 1:22Speaker 2: think it should be spent on.
- 1:24Speaker 1: I expect some degree of oversight on how the money
- 1:27Speaker 1: is being spent. We are paying Keith Faber and the
- 1:31Speaker 1: Secretary of Attorney General, I should say. All these people
- 1:37Speaker 1: have big, big staffs. They're all paid well. Is it
- 1:41Speaker 1: asking too much for them to go actually look at
- 1:44Speaker 1: this stuff and pursue this stuff?
- 1:48Speaker 3: No.
- 1:49Speaker 1: What am I missing here?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Oh, you're spot on. And there's been, like I shared,
- 1:55Speaker 2: changes in each budget since DeWine's been in office, the
- 1:58Speaker 2: legislature's tried, it vetoed. Had this type of media coverage,
- 2:04Speaker 2: this type of frustration, it's just been building and building.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Had it been the first year of his term, you
- 2:11Speaker 2: would have seen a lot more robustness coming out of
- 2:13Speaker 2: the legislature. You would have seen probably him realizing he
- 2:17Speaker 2: can't just, you know, kind of skate by on it.
- 2:20Speaker 2: It's just taken, which is horrible. But starting to realize
- 2:24Speaker 2: that in government, you know, crises is what leads to action,
- 2:28Speaker 2: not action preventing crises. And this is going to lead
- 2:33Speaker 2: to major changes in Medicaid if we can keep the
- 2:36Speaker 2: pressure up and if We get a new governor that
- 2:39Speaker 2: will actually pursue that.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And there shouldn't be ifs on it. This is just
- 2:43Speaker 1: stealing and fraud. And we hear about it going on
- 2:46Speaker 1: in California. We hear about it in Minnesota. We hear
- 2:48Speaker 1: about it in Ohio. I'm sure it's going on in
- 2:51Speaker 1: all these states, which is just stealing money. And I
- 2:59Speaker 1: don't know where to go with it. So I'll set
- 3:00Speaker 1: that aside. What else is going on? What do you have?
- 3:03Speaker 1: Any updates on electricity or anything else?
- 3:06Speaker 2: I will end on a positive note for you.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Oh, really?
- 3:10Speaker 1: I thought we just got done with a positive hour.
- 3:14Speaker 2: So this morning, I was in Perry, in Lake County,
- 3:19Speaker 2: at the Perry Nuclear Power Plant, which is owned by Vistra,
- 3:24Speaker 2: which is based out of Texas. And Perry announced that
- 3:29Speaker 2: they are expanding their nuclear power plants, increasing the size
- 3:34Speaker 2: by roughly 20%. and adding roughly 200 megawatts onto the
- 3:40Speaker 2: grid and extending out the life of the nuclear power
- 3:43Speaker 2: plant by 20 years to 2066. What that will mean
- 3:49Speaker 2: is that Perry, which is in northeast Ohio in Lake County,
- 3:53Speaker 2: will go from the fifth largest power plant in the
- 3:56Speaker 2: nation to the number one power plant producing location in
- 4:02Speaker 2: the nation after they have this expansion, this growth of
- 4:05Speaker 2: their electricity output.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Now, with this House Bill 6, if I go back
- 4:10Speaker 1: to that just for a second, the taxpayers were helping keep–
- 4:17Speaker 1: the money was to help Edison at the time keep
- 4:21Speaker 1: nuclear plants open, correct, and coal plants going?
- 4:26Speaker 2: In 2019, First Energy said, we're declaring bankruptcy. We're closing Perry.
- 4:31Speaker 2: We're closing Davis-Bessey. Unless you, the state, bail us out.
- 4:35Speaker 2: and essentially get us back on our feet.
- 4:37Speaker 1: Now, Davis-Bessey is nuclear as well?
- 4:40Speaker 5: Yes.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Now, just correct me if I'm wrong. Oh, great one.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Nuclear power is, at the time, and I'm not talking
- 4:48Speaker 1: about wind and solar, nuclear power plants, it was one
- 4:51Speaker 1: of the most costly operations you can do to produce electricity,
- 4:55Speaker 1: and it cost a great deal for the electric it
- 4:58Speaker 1: produced at that time. Is that still accurate?
- 5:02Speaker 2: So it's much more efficient now.
- 5:04Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
- 5:05Speaker 2: One of the reasons, because these plants are already there,
- 5:08Speaker 2: to build a new plant, a new large-scale nuclear power
- 5:12Speaker 2: plant is extraordinarily expensive because of all the safety pieces.
- 5:16Speaker 2: But if you have a current plant that already has
- 5:18Speaker 2: all those base costs kind of covered, this was built
- 5:21Speaker 2: in 1977, it's actually very cost-affordable now. And the best
- 5:28Speaker 2: thing is it's 24-7, 365.
- 5:28Speaker 5: Dependable.
- 5:29Speaker 2: Base load power. We actually saw... all of the fuel
- 5:36Speaker 2: that they have used over the past 45 years is
- 5:40Speaker 2: still on site. We actually physically saw it. It's smaller than,
- 5:46Speaker 2: you know, a 50-yard line. From the goalpost 50-yard line,
- 5:50Speaker 2: it's difficult to describe how it's stored, but in big
- 5:54Speaker 2: concrete kind of tubes, 40 years, every year powering over
- 6:00Speaker 2: a million homes from this one plant, The fuel that
- 6:03Speaker 2: was used for that, smaller than that, much of a footprint.
- 6:07Speaker 2: It shows how efficient and how easy it is in
- 6:10Speaker 2: a sense. But House Bill 6, that was the corrupt
- 6:14Speaker 2: House bill with the former, former speaker. He's still in prison.
- 6:18Speaker 2: We have repealed House Bill 6. Part of why we did, clearly,
- 6:24Speaker 2: Perry actually is super successful. They're expanding their grilling, not
- 6:28Speaker 2: because of the bailout, but because... a private company actually
- 6:32Speaker 2: bought them and turned them around. It is now putting
- 6:35Speaker 2: more electrons onto the grid, which is a huge success story.
- 6:40Speaker 1: So it did need supplementation to keep it open.
- 6:44Speaker 2: No, that was a first energy accounting ploy, which is
- 6:48Speaker 2: why the first energy execs are going to prison.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Did they use that also on coal?
- 6:53Speaker 2: There were several coal plants, one in Indiana. and one
- 6:59Speaker 2: in southeast Ohio that also were subsidized. Not needed, but
- 7:06Speaker 2: that was part of the big deal, was if you're
- 7:08Speaker 2: going to subsidize nuclear, you subsidize coal. We repealed those subsidies.
- 7:14Speaker 2: Those plants are doing perfectly good. There's no need for subsidy.
- 7:17Speaker 2: First Energy did accounting employees with that as well.
- 7:22Speaker 1: And is it the... rule that if you build a
- 7:29Speaker 1: data center, you have to provide the power for it?
- 7:32Speaker 1: It can't go on a grid in Ohio?
- 7:34Speaker 2: So as of today, no. You don't require that you
- 7:38Speaker 2: build your own power. We have now allowed it. Previous
- 7:42Speaker 2: to House Bill 15 that passed last year, you could not. Today, though,
- 7:47Speaker 2: we allow you and encourage you. We actually expedite, make
- 7:51Speaker 2: it faster to permit, make it much simpler to build
- 7:55Speaker 2: if you have your own power. so that way you're
- 7:57Speaker 2: not taking from the grid.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Well, the grid can't support a bunch of data centers,
- 8:03Speaker 1: can it?
- 8:04Speaker 5: Right.
- 8:05Speaker 2: We're at that kind of tip. If we keep adding
- 8:09Speaker 2: more and more without adding new power onto the grid,
- 8:13Speaker 2: our plans to generation, exactly. We're right close to that
- 8:17Speaker 2: kind of breaking point. The House and Senate two days
- 8:23Speaker 2: ago announced the formation of a six-member kind of body
- 8:29Speaker 2: to have committee hearings, proposed legislation by June 10th that
- 8:35Speaker 2: will essentially give kind of a standardized, here's what we
- 8:39Speaker 2: want to see when a data center comes in across
- 8:41Speaker 2: the state.
- 8:42Speaker 1: Including not being on the grid and shifting the cost
- 8:46Speaker 1: to the regular electric users, provide your own electricity. I mean,
- 8:50Speaker 1: I'm all for data centers. But power it yourself.
- 8:55Speaker 2: And that's actually a part of this PERI expansion is
- 8:59Speaker 2: that essentially worked with them to help offset some of
- 9:02Speaker 2: their data center higher kind of load needs across the state.
- 9:09Speaker 2: And that's exactly what we want to see. It's not
- 9:12Speaker 2: a shifting over to the customers, but actually the data
- 9:16Speaker 2: centers paying their own way and sharing their own their
- 9:21Speaker 2: own costs, which is what should be happening. They can
- 9:24Speaker 2: afford it. My House Bill 706 essentially mandates that, that
- 9:29Speaker 2: they can't be sharing their costs onto others. Next question,
- 9:33Speaker 2: I have a House Bill 833 that allows them to
- 9:36Speaker 2: do this kind of virtually so that you don't have
- 9:38Speaker 2: to build it right on site, but you can build
- 9:39Speaker 2: it somewhere else in the state. It still counts. We
- 9:42Speaker 2: have to be adding even more electrons on, but at
- 9:44Speaker 2: the very least, we should be offsetting if there's data
- 9:46Speaker 2: center coming in. But that was a huge announcement this morning,
- 9:52Speaker 2: something that we're seeing more of across the state, more
- 9:54Speaker 2: power being put on the grid, and just that stabilizing
- 9:57Speaker 2: the electrons is..
- 9:59Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sense. of this email ask him
- 10:01Speaker 1: why they are not finishing unit number two at Perry
- 10:06Speaker 1: great question.
- 10:07Speaker 2: That is the wrong question I usually get.
- 10:09Speaker 1: What no explain explain the question.
- 10:11Speaker 2: To me so Perry nuclear power plant was built in
- 10:15Speaker 2: 1977 was built with two reactors and So when you
- 10:19Speaker 2: have a power plant, whether it's coal, natural gas, nuclear,
- 10:22Speaker 2: what actually is the power is some heating source, boiling water,
- 10:28Speaker 2: creating steam, and that steam turning a turbine, which creates
- 10:33Speaker 2: a generator, which is the electrons. And so at PERI,
- 10:38Speaker 2: the heat source is the nuclear fission. It created two reactors,
- 10:44Speaker 2: reactor one and reactor two, two turbines, two generators, to
- 10:49Speaker 2: have even more electricity on. They finished Reactor 1 back,
- 10:54Speaker 2: I want to say, in the early 80s. They were
- 10:56Speaker 2: roughly 40% to 50% done with Reactor 2. Early 1980s,
- 11:00Speaker 2: the price of power dropped. It was no longer financially feasible.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Generation dropped, and they stopped. Unfortunately, what they've been doing
- 11:10Speaker 2: since the 1980s is actually taking... equipment or materials from
- 11:16Speaker 2: Reactor 2 when things in Reactor 1 break. And so
- 11:21Speaker 2: Reactor 2 now is, the building is still there, but
- 11:24Speaker 2: nothing else is actually inside. It's essentially empty. So there's
- 11:28Speaker 2: no other reactor there. But they are going to be
- 11:31Speaker 2: able to do what they mentioned today. There are things
- 11:35Speaker 2: called small modular reactors. These are almost considered the mini
- 11:40Speaker 2: nuclear power plants. These are what's now financially feasible. Big
- 11:45Speaker 2: nuclear power plants are not financially cost-effective anymore, but smaller
- 11:50Speaker 2: ones now are. What we can do now at PERI,
- 11:53Speaker 2: instead of essentially building brand new a second reactor, which
- 11:56Speaker 2: would financially never work, we can actually have these small
- 12:00Speaker 2: nuclear reactors in place of that. What we'll be seeing,
- 12:05Speaker 2: not as part of this expansion they now say, but
- 12:08Speaker 2: when there's even the ability for more work growth there.
- 12:12Speaker 1: So are they talking about doing that then where number
- 12:14Speaker 1: two is?
- 12:16Speaker 5: Yes.
- 12:16Speaker 2: They mentioned that there's actually room at Perry for more
- 12:20Speaker 2: reactors or small nuclear SMRs. But reactor two is essentially
- 12:28Speaker 2: just a hollow pressure.
- 12:30Speaker 1: Right, but they're going to do something with it with
- 12:32Speaker 1: a smaller reactor, correct?
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yes.
- 12:34Speaker 2: That's their plan, yeah.
- 12:35Speaker 1: All right. And as you talk about all this, this
- 12:38Speaker 1: stuff takes years.
- 12:39Speaker 5: Yes.
- 12:41Speaker 1: When do you anticipate some of this easing the burden
- 12:44Speaker 1: as far as the market for electricity costs?
- 12:49Speaker 2: Some of the natural gas plants that have already been
- 12:52Speaker 2: permitted late last year, those are already underway. Those are
- 12:57Speaker 2: probably a two to three year time frame. Some of
- 13:02Speaker 2: the data centers are being built now. They're smaller power
- 13:05Speaker 2: plants are actually able to either help put a little
- 13:09Speaker 2: bit on the grid, and power the data center, those
- 13:12Speaker 2: are able to be faster, maybe a year, year and
- 13:14Speaker 2: a half. The nuclear expansion of Perry, for example, that's longer.
- 13:18Speaker 2: That's probably more like a five-year, if I remember correctly,
- 13:21Speaker 2: five-year process. So we are looking out a couple of
- 13:25Speaker 2: years for any of these large numbers of electrons to
- 13:28Speaker 2: be on the grid.
- 13:31Speaker 5: All right.
- 13:31Speaker 1: Any other good news or bad news I need to
- 13:33Speaker 1: know about? No.
- 13:35Speaker 2: I am just about in Marietta, Ohio. It is sunny,
- 13:39Speaker 2: nice down here. It's only 61, though.
- 13:41Speaker 1: It's going to be 90 Monday.
- 13:42Speaker 2: I heard.
- 13:44Speaker 1: All right. I mean, it's, I mean, well, that went over. So, so,
- 13:50Speaker 1: I mean, that's what's going on so far, right?
- 13:55Speaker 5: Yep. Yes.
- 13:55Speaker 2: That's, that's what happened today. We just got back from
- 13:59Speaker 2: a recess from April this past week. You'll see us
- 14:02Speaker 2: in session again next week, a couple more times before
- 14:05Speaker 2: July 1st. The speaker announced that he wants actual legislation
- 14:10Speaker 2: on the Medicaid side. We're going to have more legislation
- 14:13Speaker 2: on the data center side, hoping for some of the
- 14:16Speaker 2: tax things as well. We had a big push, and
- 14:20Speaker 2: the president, I think, is supporting this. The easing of
- 14:23Speaker 2: the gas tax, while the gas prices are as high
- 14:26Speaker 2: as they are, I'm not sure how that's going to
- 14:28Speaker 2: actually play out on that bill as well. You're going
- 14:32Speaker 2: to see, I think, a lot of activity here in
- 14:33Speaker 2: May and June out of Columbus.
- 14:36Speaker 1: Thank you, Governor. I was just trying the title out.
- 14:39Speaker 1: I just wanted to see if you felt comfortable with it.
- 14:42Speaker 3: I do not.
- 14:43Speaker 1: All right. State Rep. Dave Thomas. Hardest working state rep
- 14:47Speaker 1: I've been around in 41 years. He's doing a terrific job.
- 14:51Speaker 1: He's informing all of us. He's fighting for all of us.
- 14:54Speaker 1: And I bet in all your lives you can't think
- 14:57Speaker 1: of anybody working harder than Dave Thomas. I'm a big fan.
- 15:00Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave.
- 15:01Speaker 5: Thank you.
- 15:02Speaker 6: Have a good day.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Back after this, NewsRadio 570, WKBN and Ron Furb.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Stay tuned. More to come. Towns News, Weather and Talk Station,
- 15:11Speaker 1: 570 WKBN. Is that guy not doing a great job?
- 15:16Speaker 1: I mean, as I sit here at 425 in the
- 15:18Speaker 1: afternoon and you and I can bellyache about politicians that have,
- 15:23Speaker 1: for the most part, been a disappointment. As I've said
- 15:26Speaker 1: to you over the years, and I asked you to
- 15:27Speaker 1: think about it, other than collect a paycheck, can you
- 15:29Speaker 1: think of anything most of these politicians have done for you?
- 15:33Speaker 1: Let me repeat that because I want to make sure
- 15:34Speaker 1: that sits in that mind of yours. Other than collect
- 15:38Speaker 1: a paycheck, can you think of anything these politicians have
- 15:41Speaker 1: done for you? Moment went over. Well, you're seeing stuff
- 15:49Speaker 1: get done by Dave Thomas. He's benefiting this entire community.
- 15:54Speaker 1: He is the hardest-working state rep that I've seen in
- 15:57Speaker 1: my 41 years sitting at this radio station. He's aided, obviously,
- 16:01Speaker 1: by Tex Fisher, who's helping him. I mean, the Republicans
- 16:07Speaker 1: from our community are really doing a good job, and
- 16:12Speaker 1: a lot of the Republicans in Columbus are doing a
- 16:14Speaker 1: good job to make a lot of this stuff happen.
- 16:16Speaker 1: What a major disappointment Mike DeWine is. What an absolute
- 16:20Speaker 1: major disappointment Mike DeWine is. And And when you hear
- 16:25Speaker 1: about this fraud and just his lack of action, that
- 16:28Speaker 1: kind of stuff, it's hard to tell the difference between
- 16:30Speaker 1: him and Tampon Tim on that kind of stuff. So
- 16:34Speaker 1: I hope I make sense to you guys when I
- 16:36Speaker 1: say it's very frustrating for me to sit here and
- 16:39Speaker 1: listen to these Somalians or other people that come to
- 16:42Speaker 1: this country and are able to just set up these
- 16:48Speaker 1: fake businesses. You know, maybe I should open up Ron's
- 16:51Speaker 1: hospice house. Ron's Learing Center. Ron's Transportation Center. And they
- 17:00Speaker 1: open up these fake storefronts and they steal millions and
- 17:04Speaker 1: billions of dollars over the years. They're not providing any services.
- 17:09Speaker 1: No one goes and checks up. So They're living a
- 17:13Speaker 1: lifestyle of which you will never be able to enjoy yourself.
- 17:17Speaker 1: You just go to work and pay your taxes and
- 17:20Speaker 1: eke out a living. Well, they're screwing a system and
- 17:22Speaker 1: no one's checking on it. And they're living a better
- 17:24Speaker 1: lifestyle than you will if you live to 10 years
- 17:28Speaker 1: or 10 times over. It's ridiculous. And they get away
- 17:35Speaker 1: with it. And you'll never get the money back because
- 17:40Speaker 1: that's gone forever. We'll see if anybody ever goes to
- 17:42Speaker 1: prison for it. Yet, if you step out of line
- 17:46Speaker 1: somehow and whatever, you screw up on your tax return
- 17:51Speaker 1: or something, we'll hassle a living hell out of you.
- 17:53Speaker 1: I mean, how does this make a lick of sense?
- 17:56Speaker 1: My friend said to me, as I've said to you before,
- 17:58Speaker 1: he said, it is so discouraging when you see all
- 18:01Speaker 1: the fraud going on that Elon Musk was exposing that's
- 18:04Speaker 1: still going on and continues to go on. And then
- 18:07Speaker 1: you hear about this in the States with Medicaid, and
- 18:11Speaker 1: you know what's going on with Medicare. It makes it
- 18:13Speaker 1: difficult on April 15th to file and pay your taxes
- 18:16Speaker 1: and do the right thing, because you know so much
- 18:18Speaker 1: of your money is being stolen and swindled and wasted.
- 18:23Speaker 1: And it's your money, and it's being taken from you,
- 18:26Speaker 1: and it makes it harder for you to enjoy your
- 18:28Speaker 1: life and survive. And that's why I say even look
- 18:33Speaker 1: on a local level with these commissioners in Mahoning and
- 18:35Speaker 1: Trumbull County all making the arguments that with this big
- 18:38Speaker 1: increase that they gave you on, not gave you, that
- 18:41Speaker 1: we had with the reappraisals, and there's reappraisals going on now,
- 18:44Speaker 1: there'll be another increase, but we're not able to give
- 18:47Speaker 1: you even a small portion of that big increase back.
- 18:50Speaker 1: It's more important that we keep it all and you
- 18:51Speaker 1: struggle because we got all these people to take care of.
- 18:55Speaker 1: As opposed to saying, where's personal responsibility? When did it
- 18:58Speaker 1: become the government's responsibility to take care of everybody and everything? Oh,
- 19:02Speaker 1: we've got to have a senior level. We've got to
- 19:03Speaker 1: take care of seniors who fail to prepare and all
- 19:06Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. It's craziness. It's so out of control.
- 19:09Speaker 1: It's beyond belief. Back with your calls right after this.
- 19:14Speaker 1: News Radio 570 WKVN. And we're back. News Radio 570 WKVN.
- 19:19Speaker 1: Ron Verb, let's take some calls. You're on the air.
- 19:24Speaker 5: Good afternoon, sir. I like the way you ended that call,
- 19:28Speaker 5: referring to Dave Thomas as governor. I would like to
- 19:31Speaker 5: see that happen.
- 19:32Speaker 1: Oh, I would. He is genuinely, like I say, the
- 19:37Speaker 1: title I would like to give him is one that's deserved.
- 19:40Speaker 1: He is a public servant. He is a guy that's
- 19:43Speaker 1: working as a servant to the public, trying to make
- 19:46Speaker 1: your life so much better in every aspect of it.
- 19:50Speaker 7: It.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I have such respect for what he's doing, and he's
- 19:52Speaker 1: such a rarity. He's so rare.
- 19:55Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think he's right. I think if we
- 19:57Speaker 5: get Vivek in there and we can get rid of Mr. DeWine,
- 20:01Speaker 5: that disaster, I think it would be a huge improvement.
- 20:05Speaker 5: Look at all the things that he passed last year
- 20:07Speaker 5: that DeWine went and line item vetoed.
- 20:10Speaker 1: I can only hope that when we talk about the
- 20:12Speaker 1: fear of everything AI, one thing that AI should be
- 20:16Speaker 1: able to do is monitor all of this fraud so
- 20:19Speaker 1: much better than what's being done now. But I also
- 20:22Speaker 1: would like to say it's a huge disappointment with the
- 20:24Speaker 1: fraud going on in Ohio that all these people in
- 20:27Speaker 1: these other offices weren't on top of it as well.
- 20:30Speaker 1: I mean, it's just they're all making a good salary.
- 20:33Speaker 1: It's just blatant incompetence to me that you could have
- 20:37Speaker 1: this going on. I mean, I can't see much difference
- 20:40Speaker 1: between DeWine and Tamp on Tim.
- 20:43Speaker 5: Oh, no, there really isn't, other than supposedly the party,
- 20:46Speaker 5: although I don't even understand how DeWine can call himself
- 20:49Speaker 5: a Republican after what he did the other day when
- 20:53Speaker 5: he had a chance to appoint basically every person that's
- 20:57Speaker 5: running in the primary. He would have appointed Yost's replacement,
- 21:02Speaker 5: the man that won, I can't remember what his name is,
- 21:04Speaker 5: that won the Republican primary. But that would have snowballed
- 21:08Speaker 5: down the line and he would have been able to
- 21:10Speaker 5: appoint every person that's running and made them an incumbent.
- 21:14Speaker 1: And why wouldn't you do that?
- 21:16Speaker 5: It's not fair. It makes perfect sense. They never play fair.
- 21:20Speaker 1: It just makes perfect sense. I mean, why put an
- 21:24Speaker 1: intermediary in there? Why don't you just put the person
- 21:26Speaker 1: in that's your party's nominee for that position because you
- 21:30Speaker 1: have the opportunity to do so? It's just stupid. I mean,
- 21:33Speaker 1: it's just so damn dumb on his part.
- 21:37Speaker 5: He's just such a disappointment. I mean, I voted for
- 21:41Speaker 5: him two years ago, three years ago, whatever it was,
- 21:45Speaker 5: because I couldn't pull the trigger on a Democrat. I
- 21:47Speaker 5: just can't. But he's really not much better.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Right, and listen, I'll be the first to say there's
- 21:54Speaker 1: plenty of lousy Republicans on the federal level, local level,
- 21:58Speaker 1: and state level.
- 22:00Speaker 5: And I think we, you know, I've always said that
- 22:03Speaker 5: Ohio Medicaid is just, The corruption there is just rampant.
- 22:07Speaker 5: It's disgusting. But I think the other thing they need
- 22:10Speaker 5: to look at is education, because especially with that autism thing,
- 22:13Speaker 5: I was in a school board meeting, I think it
- 22:16Speaker 5: was about a year ago, and they were talking about
- 22:19Speaker 5: how the state has mandated preschool for kids that are
- 22:24Speaker 5: identified with a learning disability. Most of it is autism.
- 22:28Speaker 5: So before you're even in the school system, they are
- 22:32Speaker 5: required to service a kid who I think is young
- 22:36Speaker 5: as two, who could have autism, I believe the cost
- 22:41Speaker 5: to the school district was $ 22, 000 per student.
- 22:46Speaker 1: My problem with that is, and here's just my thoughts,
- 22:50Speaker 1: we are at a point where, I hate to say
- 22:53Speaker 1: this to all of you, where there's a financial incentive
- 22:57Speaker 1: for a lot of these places to target somebody in
- 23:01Speaker 1: that fashion because it becomes a lot of money that
- 23:04Speaker 1: the entity can make. Somewhere along the line, something has
- 23:08Speaker 1: gone terribly wrong in our society. Everything is, and I
- 23:12Speaker 1: do mean everything, has gotten so damn expensive we can't
- 23:15Speaker 1: get anything done. It's gotten so expensive to lay down
- 23:19Speaker 1: roads and infrastructure and fix it. The cost is astronomical.
- 23:25Speaker 1: It's so expensive to To build anything today. I mean,
- 23:29Speaker 1: everything is just out of control. And as time goes on,
- 23:32Speaker 1: more and more unaffordable. And even to fix and maintain things.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And now I just look at this and I'm having
- 23:44Speaker 1: this thought and I share this with you, Rich. I
- 23:47Speaker 1: used to be the guy, folks, and I'll just confess
- 23:50Speaker 1: it to you. I used to think, what difference does
- 23:52Speaker 1: one judge make from the other that a judge is
- 23:54Speaker 1: going to sit there and hear your case and rule
- 23:56Speaker 1: on the law, right? I mean, that used to be
- 23:59Speaker 1: my concept of judges. So it really doesn't matter what
- 24:04Speaker 1: political party they're with or anything because they're going to
- 24:07Speaker 1: sit there, hear the case, and rule on the law.
- 24:09Speaker 1: And boy, was I naive because you come to find
- 24:12Speaker 1: out by looking at how some of these judges rule
- 24:16Speaker 1: based on their politics and their liberalness by– such light
- 24:22Speaker 1: sentences to violent criminals and all, and all types of criminals.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I mean, the judge that's.
- 24:29Speaker 5: That's prosecuted, that's in charge of the case with the
- 24:32Speaker 5: shooter that down in DC at that, uh, at the, uh, press, uh, yeah,
- 24:37Speaker 5: that they were at, he apologized, apologizing, apologizing to the
- 24:42Speaker 5: perpetrator for the way he was being treated.
- 24:44Speaker 1: I mean, it is just now in my life. I mean,
- 24:47Speaker 1: I got to tell you guys, I can never remember this, uh,
- 24:52Speaker 1: Happening when I was younger, I I can never ever
- 24:58Speaker 1: remember judges acting like this when I was younger This
- 25:02Speaker 1: is relatively a new thing certainly brought to my attention
- 25:05Speaker 1: in the last 10 or 15 years maybe when these
- 25:08Speaker 1: judges became activists or political or this Totally bizarre philosophy.
- 25:15Speaker 1: So now you come to realize there's a big difference
- 25:18Speaker 1: between judges and And do you remember where they wanted
- 25:21Speaker 1: to fight being able to put on, are you a
- 25:24Speaker 1: Republican or Democrat when it comes to a judge's race
- 25:27Speaker 1: to identify what party you're with? And I think you
- 25:29Speaker 1: should be identified with what party you're with. And the
- 25:32Speaker 1: Democrats are the ones that are trying to fight it.
- 25:34Speaker 1: The Democrats are the ones that don't want you to
- 25:36Speaker 1: be identified by a political party in a, in a,
- 25:39Speaker 1: in a, judicial race, and I'm totally opposed to that.
- 25:42Speaker 5: I know last year, that was another thing that the
- 25:44Speaker 5: Republicans passed last year. It was going to be at
- 25:46Speaker 5: least for school board races. They were going to allow
- 25:48Speaker 5: you to put your party affiliation for school board races.
- 25:52Speaker 5: And since summer of last year, guess who? Wine Item
- 25:55Speaker 5: vetoed it again. Governor DeWine, he's... I don't want to
- 26:03Speaker 5: say anything. Right.
- 26:04Speaker 1: I mean, he's a lame duck, and thank God for that.
- 26:07Speaker 1: But But I mean, that's the reality when it comes
- 26:10Speaker 1: to these. When I look at these judges today and
- 26:15Speaker 1: it reminds me just a lot.
- 26:17Speaker 5: It coincides, though, with it's the it's the it coincides
- 26:22Speaker 5: with the destruction of the Democrat Party or the way
- 26:24Speaker 5: it's been taken over by the left. Because the Democrat Party,
- 26:29Speaker 5: you and I were both Democrats at one point in
- 26:31Speaker 5: our lives, and the party at that time was sane.
- 26:33Speaker 1: The party changed to the party. Right, and the Republican
- 26:36Speaker 1: Party changed. When I hear people say this kind of stuff, listen,
- 26:40Speaker 1: the Republican Party used to be the party of the
- 26:42Speaker 1: business snob guy, the rich, the elitist, the snob person.
- 26:46Speaker 1: And now the Republican Party has become the party of
- 26:49Speaker 1: the working person and the successful person as well as
- 26:53Speaker 1: the working, I would say, the productive people. It's become
- 26:56Speaker 1: the party of the productive taxpaying people. The Democrat Party
- 26:59Speaker 1: has become the party of the oddballs and the weirdos
- 27:02Speaker 1: and the people that are sponging off the system. That's
- 27:05Speaker 1: where that party has gone. So that's why you see
- 27:08Speaker 1: people leaving that party, coming to the Republican Party and
- 27:14Speaker 1: And so you can just see the change in the
- 27:17Speaker 1: parties and the change in people. And I don't know
- 27:20Speaker 1: why anybody would be a member of the Democrat Party.
- 27:23Speaker 1: I just don't get it.
- 27:27Speaker 5: It's the party of the freebies for freeloaders. If you're
- 27:31Speaker 5: on the government dole, if you're sucking at the government teats,
- 27:34Speaker 5: you're going to vote Democrat because they're the ones that
- 27:36Speaker 5: promote that. They're the ones that want that to keep.
- 27:38Speaker 5: They not only want it to stay where it's at,
- 27:40Speaker 5: they want to grow it. They want more people addicted
- 27:42Speaker 5: to the government. So that's where the support comes from.
- 27:44Speaker 1: But how much more can you afford? Where are you
- 27:47Speaker 1: going to get the money?
- 27:49Speaker 5: Well, like Maggie Thatcher said, socialism is a wonderful system
- 27:53Speaker 5: if you run out of other people's money. Right.
- 27:56Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty much where we are when you
- 27:59Speaker 1: look at all of this kind of stuff that's going on.
- 28:01Speaker 1: And you look at DeWine, I mean, just because somebody's
- 28:05Speaker 1: a Republican doesn't necessarily mean they do a great job either.
- 28:07Speaker 1: And DeWine's a shining example of that.
- 28:11Speaker 5: Yeah, and as much as I didn't like Mitt Romney,
- 28:14Speaker 5: he was right when he was talking. He said, what,
- 28:16Speaker 5: back then it was, I think, 48% of the country
- 28:19Speaker 5: got excoriated for saying 48% of the country was sucking
- 28:23Speaker 5: off the government. Well, it's well north of that now.
- 28:26Speaker 5: I'd say it's closer to probably 55%, 60%.
- 28:27Speaker 1: If I go back, I've been on talk radio a long,
- 28:31Speaker 1: long time. If I go back to the earlier days,
- 28:35Speaker 1: even before I was at this radio station, I can
- 28:38Speaker 1: remember people calling me at that time. So think how
- 28:40Speaker 1: long ago. I've been here 41 years, so it's beyond
- 28:42Speaker 1: 41 years. They used to be, call them John Birchers.
- 28:46Speaker 1: You ever hear that term, John Birchers and that kind
- 28:48Speaker 1: of stuff? I can remember those people calling me at
- 28:51Speaker 1: that time saying, you will see a gigantic change when
- 28:55Speaker 1: the people benefiting from the government outweighs the people paying
- 29:01Speaker 1: the taxes and and the shift you'll see when it
- 29:03Speaker 1: comes to voting as a result of it. They were
- 29:06Speaker 1: warning me about that, what, 50 years ago or 45
- 29:09Speaker 1: years ago. They were talking about how the equations, when
- 29:13Speaker 1: you've got more people on the take than you do pay,
- 29:16Speaker 1: then they do all the voting and you get screwed.
- 29:19Speaker 1: And they were right, and that's what's happening.
- 29:22Speaker 5: They say republics typically fail because the politicians figure out
- 29:26Speaker 5: they can keep voting longer, pay raises and benefits for
- 29:30Speaker 5: the people until they basically bankrupt the Republic. And that's
- 29:32Speaker 5: where we're headed.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Well, unfortunately, I think that's true. Far too much of
- 29:37Speaker 1: your money is taken from you in all forms of taxes.
- 29:40Speaker 1: and basically just totally pissed away to the percentage is
- 29:44Speaker 1: too large it's being wasted and how long can that
- 29:48Speaker 1: go on that's all i'm asking how long.
- 29:51Speaker 5: Even as but even as much as they take and
- 29:54Speaker 5: confiscate of our wealth They're borrowing 50 percent, at least
- 29:59Speaker 5: 50 percent more than they're taking and adding that on.
- 30:02Speaker 5: And then we have to pay the interest on it.
- 30:04Speaker 5: We're in this. The debt is probably the biggest issue
- 30:08Speaker 5: facing the country by far. And nobody's paying attention to
- 30:11Speaker 5: it because it really doesn't affect them in a meaningful
- 30:14Speaker 5: way yet. But it's that that meaningful way is coming
- 30:17Speaker 5: and it's coming very soon.
- 30:19Speaker 1: Well, it'd be devastating. But I can assure you it
- 30:22Speaker 1: won't affect those people that caused the problems and got
- 30:24Speaker 1: their government pensions. They'll be just fine. Their pensions will
- 30:28Speaker 1: be just fine or their retirements will be just fine.
- 30:30Speaker 1: But everyone else on Medicare or Social Security has something
- 30:34Speaker 1: to worry about at that point in time. And therein
- 30:37Speaker 1: lies the problem.
- 30:40Speaker 5: The freebie crowd will always be fine. They will be
- 30:42Speaker 5: taken care of while the rest of us, the people
- 30:45Speaker 5: that are the makers, will continue to get screwed by
- 30:49Speaker 5: our elected officials.
- 30:51Speaker 1: It's deeply disturbing and deeply troubling to me. I mean,
- 30:55Speaker 1: it really is. And I hate to dwell on it
- 30:59Speaker 1: too much because it can... But it's important for people
- 31:02Speaker 1: to know. I mean, when you listen to Dave Thomas
- 31:05Speaker 1: that first hour and a half of the program, you
- 31:06Speaker 1: can learn so much of what's going on as far
- 31:09Speaker 1: as what's happening with electricity and the power plants and everything.
- 31:12Speaker 1: But you also, on a positive note, but you also
- 31:15Speaker 1: learn about the fraud, what's going on with that kind
- 31:17Speaker 1: of stuff.
- 31:17Speaker 5: So..
- 31:19Speaker 1: He's an important guy. That's why I have him on
- 31:21Speaker 1: so regularly, because he's an important guy to learn from
- 31:23Speaker 1: and listen to.
- 31:26Speaker 5: We need to elevate his position, though, over the next
- 31:28Speaker 5: couple of years. He should really be encouraged to run
- 31:31Speaker 5: for a higher office.
- 31:34Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I mean, I would completely
- 31:38Speaker 1: and totally agree with that. Completely and totally agree with that.
- 31:44Speaker 5: He's a young guy. I think he has a very
- 31:46Speaker 5: bright future ahead of him because he's doing what every
- 31:50Speaker 5: politician should do, serving the people.
- 31:54Speaker 1: I hope I'm around long enough to see that happen.
- 31:56Speaker 1: I really am. You give me great joy as I
- 32:00Speaker 1: get older. Thank you for your time. Appreciate it. You're
- 32:03Speaker 1: on air.
- 32:05Speaker 4: You're not old, Ron. You're not old, Ron.
- 32:07Speaker 1: All right. Not yet.
- 32:12Speaker 4: No. I don't know what to say about what..
- 32:20Speaker 1: Go ahead.
- 32:20Speaker 4: All these... You have very important people on your station.
- 32:29Speaker 4: You know, if we literally took out federal income tax,
- 32:35Speaker 4: and I don't want to hear about the fire, the police,
- 32:38Speaker 4: or anything else like that.
- 32:39Speaker 1: Well, that has nothing to do with federal income tax.
- 32:42Speaker 4: Well, okay then. Even better... Why do we have to
- 32:47Speaker 4: pay federal income tax for people that are in Congress
- 32:52Speaker 4: and Senate to exploit us and do all kinds of fraud?
- 33:02Speaker 4: Why are we paying for something that they know is
- 33:05Speaker 4: a fraudulent front under the banner of who knows what
- 33:12Speaker 4: flag they fall under? Can you tell me with a
- 33:17Speaker 4: certainty that every one of your tax dollars federally are
- 33:22Speaker 4: being taken care of?
- 33:26Speaker 1: Of course I can't tell you that. I can tell you,
- 33:28Speaker 1: look at all of the waste that Elon Musk exposed
- 33:32Speaker 1: in Doge, and look at what the Democrats did to
- 33:34Speaker 1: discredit him, dishonor him, and get rid of him, and
- 33:37Speaker 1: they were successful at it, when he was simply exposing
- 33:40Speaker 1: billions of your dollars going to foreign countries for... the
- 33:44Speaker 1: most ridiculous transgenderism and all this ridiculous stuff that should
- 33:49Speaker 1: have never happened in the first place. And he exposed it.
- 33:53Speaker 1: And it's just a total waste of your tax dollars. Exactly.
- 33:59Speaker 4: But listen, on a local level, Ron, you're here. You're
- 34:05Speaker 4: right here in Austintown. You know what's going on. When
- 34:10Speaker 4: we're building roads and all this other stuff, and we
- 34:14Speaker 4: see that Medicaid and Medicare is on a billion-dollar fraudulent level,
- 34:22Speaker 4: how can we sit there and say that we should
- 34:25Speaker 4: be paying federal income taxes? And I'm not against taking
- 34:31Speaker 4: care of our federal..
- 34:35Speaker 1: Listen, your federal income taxes are... We can debate the waste,
- 34:40Speaker 1: and we should certainly address it and certainly get rid
- 34:42Speaker 1: of the debt and deficit. But it is how you
- 34:45Speaker 1: fund your army for your freedom and your protection, and
- 34:47Speaker 1: that's not to say that it hasn't gotten out of
- 34:50Speaker 1: control as far as costs are consumed. All right, Tiger,
- 34:54Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm running short on time. You're on
- 34:56Speaker 1: the air.
- 34:56Speaker 3: Hi, Ron.
- 34:59Speaker 1: Yes.
- 35:01Speaker 2: I just would ask that somebody at your station review
- 35:04Speaker 2: the sports section of your break at 4 30 was
- 35:08Speaker 2: it about two weeks.
- 35:10Speaker 1: Old that happened yesterday i'm going to get on that
- 35:13Speaker 1: right now okay i'm going to do.
- 35:15Speaker 3: That all right just want to let you guys know.
- 35:17Speaker 1: Thank you very much thank you very much you know
- 35:20Speaker 1: sometimes there's just computer screw-ups that uh I've got to
- 35:24Speaker 1: deal with it. I'll deal with it during this break.
- 35:26Speaker 1: And I thank you for bringing it to my attention.
- 35:28Speaker 1: I'll be right back. You know, I've noticed that with sports.
- 35:34Speaker 1: I appreciate that woman who called who reminded me of that. Listen, folks,
- 35:39Speaker 1: any of you listening, if you hear stuff like that
- 35:40Speaker 1: that's outdated, that the system isn't updating, call me on
- 35:45Speaker 1: the air and notify me of it. All right? So
- 35:47Speaker 1: you can either send me an e-mail. Ron Verbat, iHeartMedia,
- 35:51Speaker 1: or you can call me, just call me directly on
- 35:53Speaker 1: the air during the program and bring it to my
- 35:55Speaker 1: attention because I will see that that gets taken care
- 35:59Speaker 1: of and fixed. All right. Because it's just unacceptable. Anyway,
- 36:07Speaker 1: good afternoon with you till 7 o'clock tonight. Of course,
- 36:10Speaker 1: being Thursday. Kind of things change a little bit. We
- 36:13Speaker 1: have a legal show that happens from 5 to 6,
- 36:16Speaker 1: and then from 6 to 7, Money Talks with John
- 36:20Speaker 1: Arnold from 6 to 7. So we have both a
- 36:23Speaker 1: legal show 5 to 6, and then John Arnold has
- 36:25Speaker 1: Money Talks from 6 to 7 tonight. And then, of course,
- 36:29Speaker 1: Sean Hannity of Follow Guardians got the day off. Ron
- 36:31Speaker 1: Verb from the Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio 5, so D.W.D.K.V.N.,
- 36:33Speaker 1: you're on the air.
- 36:36Speaker 4: Hey, Ron, how are you?
- 36:37Speaker 1: I'm well. Go ahead, sir.
- 36:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to, I'm tired of the waste, too.
- 36:40Speaker 3: But I was happy to see Trump's in China, and
- 36:43Speaker 3: I've seen online where Musk was with him.
- 36:48Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to see that work out.
- 36:52Speaker 3: Yeah, I've seen him. He was in a picture with him,
- 36:54Speaker 3: and I was glad to see that, too. I just
- 36:57Speaker 3: want to throw that in there.
- 36:58Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 36:59Speaker 1: Thank you. You're on air. Hello.
- 37:02Speaker 5: Hello.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Well, I can hear you, but you can't hear me.
- 37:11Speaker 1: I guess that's your problem, though. But it doesn't matter
- 37:13Speaker 1: because we've got to pause for the headlines at 5
- 37:15Speaker 1: o'clock anyway, so call back. Well, you're going to have
- 37:17Speaker 1: to call back tomorrow because we come up with a
- 37:21Speaker 1: legal show coming up. And then John on his program
- 37:24Speaker 1: to follow that on NewsRadio 570. If you missed Dave Thomas...
- 37:28Speaker 1: The first hour and a half, state rep and what
- 37:31Speaker 1: he had to say, you missed a lot. You'll be
- 37:33Speaker 1: able to pick that up when they post the podcast
- 37:36Speaker 1: later on NewsRadio 570. Take in the wisdom and knowledge
- 37:40Speaker 1: and things you should know about, certainly if you're a
- 37:43Speaker 1: resident of the state of Ohio. And when we're talking
- 37:47Speaker 1: about the Medicaid fraud, it's just mind-boggling what's going on
- 37:54Speaker 1: with Your tax dollars. And it's deeply disturbing and deeply troubling.
- 38:00Speaker 5: All right.
- 38:00Speaker 1: If you need any legal advice, got any legal questions, dilemmas,
- 38:03Speaker 1: we switch gears at 5 o'clock. So free legal advice
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- 38:22Speaker 1: from you.
- 38:30Speaker 6: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. A temporary stay by
- 38:34Speaker 6: the Supreme Court to block a popular abortion pill expires
- 38:37Speaker 6: this hour. Justices set to rule on whether expansions made
- 38:41Speaker 6: to Mifepristone in the past five years should be rolled back.
- 38:44Speaker 6: Here's ABC's Devin Dwyer.
- 38:45Speaker 8: People have been able to access the pill online from
- 38:48Speaker 8: a doctor, from a provider, get it in the mail.
- 38:51Speaker 8: It is the most commonly formed method of abortion in
- 38:53Speaker 8: the United States. We're told one in four women who
- 38:56Speaker 8: get an abortion today, get the medication from telemedicine. It's
- 39:00Speaker 8: just how it's gone.
- 39:01Speaker 6: If the block is upheld, women would still have to
- 39:04Speaker 6: have access. They have to go in person to a
- 39:06Speaker 6: doctor's office to receive the abortion pill. The summit in
- 39:09Speaker 6: China continuing for a second day with working groups focusing
- 39:12Speaker 6: on investments and trade. It follows meetings between President Trump
- 39:16Speaker 6: and President Xi. Talks highlighted the potential of both countries,
- 39:19Speaker 6: but no big breakthroughs on trade and tensions remain on
- 39:23Speaker 6: Taiwan and over Iran. ABC's Selena Wang is in Beijing.
- 39:26Speaker 9: Big picture, if you look at what they're saying on camera,
- 39:29Speaker 9: both leaders are focusing on stability between these two countries,
- 39:33Speaker 9: the long history between the U.S.
- 39:35Speaker 3: And China.
- 39:36Speaker 9: And President Trump even lavishing praise on Xi Jinping, saying
- 39:39Speaker 9: that it's an honor to be his friend, calling him
- 39:42Speaker 9: a great leader, a line that's been picked up by
- 39:45Speaker 9: state media here in China. But beneath all of that,
- 39:47Speaker 9: there's tensions on Taiwan and Iran.
- 39:50Speaker 6: An American cruise ship passenger who tested positive for hantavirus
- 39:54Speaker 6: has now been cleared to leave isolation. ABC News medical contributor.
- 39:58Speaker 5: Dr.
- 39:58Speaker 6: Alok Patel says it shows protocols are working.
- 40:01Speaker 7: By testing negative and being better symptomatically, there's a lot
- 40:04Speaker 7: less risk for the general public. That's exactly why this
- 40:07Speaker 7: was designed in Nebraska, to keep people there for what's
- 40:09Speaker 7: recommended the full 42 days with the serial monitoring, because
- 40:13Speaker 7: that is potentially the long time of incubation when this
- 40:16Speaker 7: virus may show up.
- 40:17Speaker 6: Health officials continue to monitor more than three dozen Americans
- 40:20Speaker 6: exposed to the Hanta virus. Globally, though, there are 10
- 40:23Speaker 6: confirmed cases from the cruise ship outbreak. You're listening to
- 40:26Speaker 6: ABC News.
- 40:29Speaker 1: Hi.