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- 0:11Hello everybody. Welcome to Simba Bitcoin Live.
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- 0:20state. Oh, things are starting spicy
- 0:23this Monday. Fiat times breaking news
- 0:26article. SEC asked Coinbase to halt
- 0:29trading in everything except for Bitcoin, CEO Brian Armstrong
- 0:35says. I remember us doing a video
- 0:38about this. It was maybe like a month or or
- 0:42two ago and we literally said that the coin based stock might
- 0:46go to zero and a lot of people got upset in the comments.
- 0:49The like and dislike ratio wasn't as high as it usually
- 0:53was. Maybe some people are holding
- 0:55coin based stock, but the reason that we came to that conclusion
- 0:59was based on wording and things and thoughts that Gary Genzer
- 1:05has set out publicly and he's basically said that everything
- 1:10other than Bitcoin is a security.
- 1:11And then we went over coin bases numbers and we pointed out the
- 1:15fact that they make the majority of their fees from all coins,
- 1:19they don't make it from Bitcoin. So clearly, their whole business
- 1:24model would go under if the SEC got their way.
- 1:28Now to be fair, they still need to go through a lawsuit.
- 1:31They still need to get a judge to sign on.
- 1:33We see Brian Brian Armstrong in pictures in Washington DC every
- 1:38other week. He obviously has a tremendous
- 1:41amount of influence. So it's not that simple.
- 1:46It's not like it's like Coinbase is just going to disappear
- 1:48tomorrow, that there's going to be a fight.
- 1:50That obviously happens now. So the the thing and I and and
- 1:55and it's kind of weird because I do see some bitcoiners not all
- 1:58like celebrating a little bit that like you know, okay, this
- 2:04is a security, you know, Yes. But The thing is is I, I, I
- 2:15would prefer Bitcoin winning on the free market like that.
- 2:18That's what I would prefer to be honest with you.
- 2:21I, I, I don't like, you know when the government kind of the
- 2:25the government intervenes and says what is the security, what
- 2:28is not a security. Now the other side of that
- 2:31argument is, you know, they just, there's there should be a
- 2:35level playing field because the traditional financial system,
- 2:38you know, plays by certain set of rules and then the whole
- 2:41Bitcoin and crypto sector industry plays by a different
- 2:47set of rules, right? So, you know, the argument is
- 2:50like, why shouldn't the crypto industry be held to the same
- 2:54standards as a financial industry?
- 2:57But the libertarian in me, the Bitcoin in me is kind of like
- 3:00look like I I I think that there's always unintended
- 3:04consequences to government intervention and I'm always
- 3:06skeptical of them. And perhaps that opinion might
- 3:10not be as popular with some people, because the reality is a
- 3:15lot of people do get hurt. You know, a lot of people do get
- 3:18hurt by these pump and dump scams, like the fact that
- 3:20Ethereum had a premine, the fact that XRP had a premine, right.
- 3:24And these are like large premines, right?
- 3:26Like 8080 to 60 to 80% of of the total supply is still owned by
- 3:32like the original founders or foundation or or whatnot.
- 3:35And then they just dump it on retail every Bitcoin cycle,
- 3:38right? So yeah, I'm divided on this
- 3:46ethically and morally. So let's see where this goes.
- 3:49I don't know, but we are here to cover it.
- 3:52Anyways, no more delay. I want to bring up our special
- 3:55guest today. Toma.
- 3:56How you doing buddy? I'm good.
- 4:01Thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us.
- 4:02And of course my legendary cohost, always optimistic, giant
- 4:05smile on his face. How you doing Opti?
- 4:08I'm doing good man. It's it's Monday, we're back.
- 4:11What's up everyone? It's your boys.
- 4:14We got another day and actually another week of putting in
- 4:16content. But yeah, interesting news that
- 4:19was very, very interesting to wake up to this headline.
- 4:22You know as as much as we are both anti statist.
- 4:27You know the SEC is doing their job out here and you can't
- 4:29really blame them, right? So like, hey, wouldn't want to
- 4:33be holding shit coins right now is all I'm saying.
- 4:35But This is why we're Bitcoin only.
- 4:37This is why we're simply Bitcoin, because that's the
- 4:39safest bet and you want to protect yourself and and you
- 4:41know, obviously we don't want to lean on government institutions
- 4:45to protect our bags, but hey. There are laws here, guys, and
- 4:50you can't just skirt around them by being a slimy shit coiner
- 4:53anymore. So hey, it is what it is.
- 4:55But I don't know, Let's get into the details Nico.
- 4:58This is going to be good, actually.
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- 5:16Yeah, let's get into it. No more delay.
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- 6:48At the time of recording the Bitcoin price is 29,235 sats per
- 6:53dollar 3421 block height 800,000, 800,000 and 192 blocks
- 7:00to having 38,908 having estimate April 20th 2024.
- 7:06Total Lightning Network capacity 4704 Bitcoin capacity value
- 7:11137,000,000. Realize monetary inflation
- 7:141.76%. The market capitalization of
- 7:17Bitcoin $568 billion with the B Bitcoin versus gold market cap
- 7:224.32%. My favorite 2 stats out of all
- 7:26of that is the realized monetary inflation of 1.76% and the
- 7:30Bitcoin versus gold market cap of 4.32%.
- 7:34Anyways, moving on to this, this is crazy.
- 7:38We talk a lot about this concept of the Overton window and it is
- 7:42slowly shifting. It is shifting towards bitcoins
- 7:46favor, this idea of self custody, this idea of a non
- 7:50state money and you know all the benefits that come with it.
- 7:54When you have the legacy corporate media not only talking
- 7:58about Bitcoin but also defending Bitcoin, it is kind of a big
- 8:02deal, right? And as is the case right here,
- 8:07you have a CNNBC anchor talking about the having.
- 8:11Now this is funny because all the change in tune and and all
- 8:14these things, all the change in tune and all the kind of defense
- 8:21of Bitcoin and all that only only happened after BlackRock
- 8:26announced, you know, the Bitcoin spot ETF.
- 8:29So maybe one has to do with the other, I don't know.
- 8:32But anyways, I'm going to play the video and then we'll talk
- 8:34about it. Let's check it out.
- 8:35Today we're going to 0 in on Crypt, which has outperformed
- 8:40even some of the most high flying parts of the market this
- 8:42year. Mackenzie Sagalos joins us now
- 8:44with a look at the potential risk and rewards ahead for the
- 8:48sector. Mac, it is great to see you.
- 8:50Hey, good to see you, Frank. So it's definitely a pivotal
- 8:53moment for the crypto sector. A crucial federal court ruling
- 8:56could stifle efforts by SEC Chairman Gary Gensler to wrangle
- 9:00what he calls the Wild West of trading.
- 9:03A judge in New York has cast doubt on whether the SEC has a
- 9:06clear path to regulate most altcoins as securities.
- 9:10That ruling largely viewed as a net win for altcoin traders, who
- 9:14feared an imminent crackdown from regulators, as well As for
- 9:17Coinbase, which faces its own legal battle with the SEC.
- 9:21The top 100 digital assets are up 48% this year, compared to
- 9:2517% for stocks and 9% for gold. Meanwhile, Bitcoin is
- 9:29outperforming the NASDAQ 100, as are crypto peg stocks like
- 9:33Coinbase, Galaxy Digital and MicroStrategy.
- 9:37But Bitcoin can't seem to break out from the $30,000 price
- 9:40level, One reason being there isn't much investor interest.
- 9:44We're seeing some support from institutions, but there's no
- 9:47real catalyst to drive the price either higher or lower.
- 9:51Things that would normally affect Bitcoin, such as the Fed
- 9:54raising rates are barely moving. The needle with the market
- 9:57appears to need is a return of confidence from retail and
- 10:00institutional investors. That could potentially happen if
- 10:03an ETF that directly tracks the spot price of Bitcoin is
- 10:06approved. Some of the biggest names in
- 10:08Tradfi are racing to be the first to offer one, including
- 10:11BlackRock. Now if spot ETF's get the green
- 10:14light, they could spur a buying spree as firms purchase Bitcoin
- 10:18to meet reserve requirements. We're also seeing movement on
- 10:21crypto legislation on Capitol Hill.
- 10:23And crucially, Frank, there is a technical event called The
- 10:26Habiting coming up next April, which typically marks the start
- 10:30of a bull run for Bitcoin. Art Mack, always great to have
- 10:33you here with your crypto expertise.
- 10:35Mackenzie Sagalos, Thank you very much.
- 10:37All right. First of all, I got to learn how
- 10:39to talk like that. Man, that was like, that was
- 10:41like beautiful, like, you know, like, you guys know what I'm
- 10:46talking about, right? It was like that, like,
- 10:49journalistic speak. It was so like, Opti, we we got
- 10:53to. We got to.
- 10:53She's a real professional. Yeah, we got, we got to take
- 10:55speaking lessons, bro. Okay, that's number one.
- 11:02Number two, yeah, I mean, first of all, she's done.
- 11:05She's done incredible job. She's covered amazing articles
- 11:08which we've used on the show many, many, many, many, many,
- 11:10many, many times. But I mean like if you look at
- 11:14it historically speaking, generally the year before the
- 11:18having, the first part of the year tends to go up and then the
- 11:23last part of the year tends to go down basically the entire
- 11:26time we start to crab sideways. So regardless of any outside
- 11:30forces, I think Bitcoin is doing what Bitcoin has historically
- 11:33done. The year before the having
- 11:37Bitcoin tends to go parabolic about a year after the having,
- 11:40nine months after the having. If historical patterns stick,
- 11:44that's that's generally what will happen, right, regardless
- 11:49of whether there's a Bitcoin spot, spot, Bitcoin ETF or not.
- 11:53Now I said the fact that, you know, the fact that they're
- 11:57covering this so much on CNNBC possibly had to do with the
- 12:00BlackRock ETF. I love how she brought it up in
- 12:03it. She's like, yeah, the the, you
- 12:05know, this might cause the price to go up and you know, she
- 12:08brought it up by name. So hey guys, there's no
- 12:10coincidences here. So I just got to say that.
- 12:13But anyways, it's just interesting how Bitcoin
- 12:16continues to get more and more coverage on the legacy corporate
- 12:19media. Now what's going to be really
- 12:21weird for us? OPTI?
- 12:23You know, especially people that you know, we, we were covering
- 12:26Bitcoin before it was cool, right?
- 12:29Is watching these, like, legacy corporate journalists slowly
- 12:33become bitcoiners that's going to be really fucking weird.
- 12:37Even the whole, even even speaking about that concept
- 12:40might seem a little like strange and what not.
- 12:43But you know what it want. What if they start holding
- 12:46Bitcoin? What if this whole BlackRock
- 12:48thing does happen? What if BlackRock starts
- 12:50sponsoring CNNBC? Like all these, you know,
- 12:53questions, right? And then you'll start.
- 12:54You'll start to hear these legacy corporate media
- 12:57journalists start to bring up the same talking points that
- 13:00Bitcoin Maxis have been using for the last couple of years.
- 13:04And I think that will be a very strange sight.
- 13:06But I think it will also be a testament to Bitcoins
- 13:08irresistible incentives. And I think that's why it's
- 13:11being talked about on CNNBC. That's why Michael Saylor is
- 13:15using it as an alternative to Fiat current currency.
- 13:18That's why 9 Bukele made made Bitcoin legal tender.
- 13:20And I suspect that next, having the next cycle, more countries
- 13:24are going to follow 9 Bukele's footsteps and more public
- 13:27companies are gonna follow Michael Sailors footsteps as
- 13:30well. So anyways, that's my take.
- 13:32What's your take, Opti? And then we'll move on to Toma.
- 13:35Yeah, First off, Mackenzie's been doing a great job.
- 13:38You know, she is part of the corporate press, so, So we won't
- 13:41hold it too too hard against her, but she's been doing a good
- 13:44job of pushing that Bitcoin signal out there for the normie
- 13:47lands to follow along and. What the having is like 270 days
- 13:53out, maybe a couple days less and you just love to see that
- 13:55it's being talked about on the corporate press as a bitcoiner.
- 13:58I think we've talked about this for years and now the Overton
- 14:02window is shifting where Bitcoin signal is part of the everyday
- 14:05news and you just love to see it.
- 14:06And I mean look like we are free market Maxis and we want to see
- 14:11Bitcoin win on the free market. But I don't think it is a
- 14:15coincidence that. All the other shit coins are
- 14:18getting wrecked right now. Like you wanna you wanna own
- 14:20something or saving something that was designed and rolled out
- 14:23in a way where it doesn't matter whether the government starts to
- 14:27attack it and you you know, it is interesting to see that ever
- 14:32since the BlackRock rollout or announcement the the tone has
- 14:36changed in regards to Bitcoin. And obviously there's Bitcoin
- 14:40and there's shitcoins, and you want to be saving in something
- 14:43that can't be stopped. And so it's just interesting to
- 14:46see the corporate press start to talk about Bitcoin in the way
- 14:49that we've been talking about it.
- 14:50Usually they're just talking about it like Bitcoin obituaries
- 14:53and all of the prices. You know, it's a bubble, It's
- 14:55tulips, and then it's died. And now they're like, wow, maybe
- 14:59this thing is sticking around. Maybe you want to get some, just
- 15:02in case it catches on. So.
- 15:03It does seem like the tune is changing and I think moving into
- 15:07the having and the post pump having, you know, history
- 15:11doesn't repeat, but it rhymes. It's going to be very
- 15:13interesting to see how everyone deals with the fact that Bitcoin
- 15:17won't go away. Yeah, 100%.
- 15:19TOMA, what's your take? No, definitely.
- 15:23I mean, you saw a clear shift in narrative since the the Black
- 15:26Rock spot, if you have application, even on the
- 15:30environmental side. There was this article from
- 15:32Forbes. I talked about the renewable
- 15:35aspect of Bitcoin, So I think it's nice to see this and at the
- 15:39end of the day, the way I see it is that BlackRock, they just
- 15:42assess their next action based on the feedback they get and
- 15:46probably they got a lot of feedback from institution
- 15:49wanting to get into Bitcoin. And for them it's, it's a
- 15:53question of making fees and and it's a financial decision for
- 15:56them. So that's positive I would say
- 15:58because if they do make this move, it means that they're
- 16:00confident that there's backing from institution and that that
- 16:03and interest when there is also, I'll take this as a positive
- 16:07sign overall. Yeah, 100%.
- 16:09And I I love how you brought up that that article from from
- 16:12Forbes and how the the change in narrative is just so you know,
- 16:17it's so clear as day for anyone who's been paying attention.
- 16:19But I think it's also an example of guys, this is what we're
- 16:24talking about, like this is this is the narrative trench warfare
- 16:27that we're talking about, the fact that they're able to change
- 16:29on a whim like that. You know, before BlackRock,
- 16:32Bitcoin bad, after BlackRock, it's actually not boiling the
- 16:36oceans. It's actually saving sea
- 16:38turtles. Like tells you everything you
- 16:40need to know about the integrity of the legacy corporate media
- 16:44machine and that, like, you know, and I think they're just
- 16:48paid propagandists to be frank. And I think the last two or
- 16:51three years alone, I've really showed that.
- 16:54I think if you've, if you've buried your head in the sand and
- 16:57you haven't been paying attention, perhaps you have a
- 16:59different take. But you know, the last, I think,
- 17:02you know, two years or so, if you've been watching any of the
- 17:06legacy corporate media channels, you know, you know, there's a
- 17:11lot of things that you're just kind of like that that isn't
- 17:14true. So anyways, but this is what the
- 17:17Internet is for. It is empowering individuals to
- 17:21talk directly to each other, kind of circumventing the
- 17:24intermediaries or the gatekeepers of information.
- 17:27And it's allowing the truth to to seep through regardless,
- 17:31right with. So there is a, there is a,
- 17:32there's a, there is a happy ending to this.
- 17:34We just got to wake enough people up.
- 17:36Like, wake enough people up from the information matrix, from the
- 17:40Fiat matrix and really wake them up and like, shake them up and
- 17:43be like, hey guys, it's not left verse, right?
- 17:45It's not Republican verse Democrat, you know, it's not red
- 17:48verse blue. It's green verse orange.
- 17:51The party of CBDC's nihilism, poverty and lack of hope.
- 17:56It's the party of Green and the party of of of hope and freedom
- 18:00and Bitcoin is the party of Orange.
- 18:02So anyways, we'll get to that. We'll get to that point.
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- 18:44news. Let's do this.
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- 19:28off with this, all right? Because we got a ton of crap for
- 19:31when we came out with this live stream killer cyan, he says.
- 19:35Nice clickbait title. And what was he referring to?
- 19:38He was referring to this title that we made four months ago and
- 19:45the name of the title is Coinbase Gets SCC Notice
- 19:47signaling Intent to Sue over crypto offerings and that was
- 19:53March 23rd, 2020 23rd. That was way before they
- 19:57actually sued them and that was we backed up our arguments with
- 20:02Gary Gensler's article. I think it's for the New
- 20:05Yorkers, some, some publication where he literally said like
- 20:09everything other than Bitcoin is a security and then he sends an
- 20:15intent to sue and then he sues. And then this just this article
- 20:20came out from the Financial Times.
- 20:22So this, this, this, this title. It wasn't clickbait.
- 20:27Like literally we were telling you what will happen if the SEC
- 20:32gets its way. Remember, Coinbase's business
- 20:35model relies on shit coin fees, right?
- 20:39Their whole business model relies on that.
- 20:41They've built a shit coin casino business.
- 20:44They didn't build a Bitcoin fee related business, right?
- 20:47They didn't build that. They focused on shit coins.
- 20:50They didn't focus on Bitcoin, right.
- 20:53But what I said in the very, very beginning, I'm a fan of
- 20:58Bitcoin winning in the free market and Bitcoin companies
- 21:01winning in the free market. I'm always suspicious of any
- 21:05type of government intervention. There is an argument to be said
- 21:09that, hey, okay to be fair, you know, the traditional financial
- 21:14system plays by a different set of rules than the Bitcoin, than
- 21:19the Bitcoin and crypto industry, right?
- 21:21They should be held to the same rules at least.
- 21:25But the skeptical libertarian bitcoiner and me is kind of like
- 21:30anytime I see the government do anything.
- 21:32But I understand and I'm aware of my personal biases.
- 21:35That's just my opinion. Anyways, let's get to the news
- 21:39of today. Financial Times.
- 21:41SCC asked Coinbase to halt trading in everything except
- 21:45Bitcoin. CEO says requests would have
- 21:48meant that quote end the end of the crypto industry in the US
- 21:52according to Brian Armstrong. So I mean there's a lot implied
- 21:56there the end to the crypto industry in the US and I think
- 22:00he is true, he is right. The Bitcoin industry would have
- 22:04survived. I think a lot of people can
- 22:06Mingo crypto with Bitcoin, a lot of normies and I I think a lot
- 22:09of regulators as well. And then not to mention the fact
- 22:13that inadvertently a lot of these crypto casinos would have
- 22:18been pushed overseas and we know what the CCP is doing is using
- 22:23Hong Kong for they're using Hong Kong as like this testing bed.
- 22:26Hong Kong is like with open arms with approval from Beijing of
- 22:30course saying hey businesses come over here Gemini come over
- 22:33here coin base come over here where you know laws I fair we're
- 22:37going to have light regulation and they're taking advantage of
- 22:40this regulatory crackdown in the US Now again like the the the
- 22:45whole situation is kind of shitty right because in in one
- 22:51part you're obviously like you're you're you're a bitcoiner
- 22:55and you're like look like obviously these are securities
- 22:58obviously these are shit coins obviously there is a premine
- 23:01obviously the founded the founders control it but then
- 23:04there's the other part of you that's kind of like you know
- 23:07like do you really want the shit coin.
- 23:09Casinos empowering the the CCP do you really want them
- 23:13empowering you know countries that are not the US I'm kind of
- 23:20like you know I don't know what to think about this to be
- 23:23honest. I don't really have an opinion
- 23:25like the Bitcoin or me is like that's awesome.
- 23:27Bitcoin only but you know I kind of think about it and I'm kind
- 23:31of divided a little bit I I don't really know what to think
- 23:34about this but anyways we'll get to the news and then we'll get
- 23:37opties and then Tomas take. So the SEC asked Coinbase to
- 23:41halt trading and all cryptocurrencies other than
- 23:43Bitcoin prior to suing the exchange in a sign of the
- 23:46agency's intent to assert regulatory authority over a
- 23:50broader slice of the market. Coinbase's chief executive
- 23:54executive officer Brian Armstrong told the Financial
- 23:56Times that the SEC made the recommendation before launching
- 23:59legal action against the NASDAQ listed cut NASDAQ listed company
- 24:03last month for failing to register as a broker.
- 24:06The SEC case identified 13 mostly lightly traded crypto
- 24:10currencies on Coinbase platforms and securities, asserting that
- 24:14by offering them to customers, the change fell under the
- 24:17regulator, the regulators. Regulators remit, but the prior
- 24:20request for Coinbase to the List D list every one of the more
- 24:24than 200 tokens it offers, with the exception of the flagship
- 24:27token Bitcoin, indicates that the SEC under chair Gary Genzer
- 24:31has pushed for wider authority over the crypto industry.
- 24:35Quote they came back to us and they said we believe every asset
- 24:39other than Bitcoin is a security.
- 24:40And that's exactly what we told you four months ago when we made
- 24:45the title of that video. We he, he literally said it in
- 24:48an article. He was like, I believe that
- 24:50everything other than Bitcoin, everything other than Bitcoin is
- 24:53a security. Like he literally said it like
- 24:55this is. This has shouldn't come as a
- 24:59surprise to you if you guys have been tuning into simply Bitcoin
- 25:02because he's been very vocal about this.
- 25:05Anyways goes on to say and we said, well, how are you coming
- 25:09to that conclusion? Because that's not our
- 25:10interpretation of the law and they said we're not going to
- 25:13explain it to you. You need to delist every asset
- 25:16other than Bitcoin. If Coinbase had agreed, that
- 25:19could have set a precedent that would have left the vast
- 25:21majority of the American crypto businesses operating outside the
- 25:24law unless they registered with the Commission quote, we really
- 25:28didn't have a choice at that point.
- 25:29Delisting every asset other than Bitcoin, which by the way is not
- 25:33what the law says, would have essentially meant the end of the
- 25:35crypto industry in the US, he said.
- 25:37It kind of made an it's it kind of made it an easy choice,
- 25:42choice. Let's go to court and find out
- 25:43what the court says. Oversight over the crypto
- 25:46industry has hitter boarded, been a Gray area and this SCC in
- 25:51the Commodity Futures Trading Commission jockeying for
- 25:53control. The CFTC sued the largest crypto
- 25:56exchange finance in March of this year, three months late in
- 25:59three months before the SCC launch its own legal action
- 26:01against the company. Genser has previously said he
- 26:05believes most cryptocurrencies with the exception of Bitcoin or
- 26:07securities. However, the recommendation to
- 26:09Coinbase signals that the SCC has adopted this interpretation
- 26:13and its attempt to regulate the industry either The second
- 26:15largest cryptocurrency, which is fundamentally, which is
- 26:19fundamental to many and industry projects, was absent from the
- 26:22regulator's case against the exchange.
- 26:24It also did not feature in the list of 12 cryptos asset
- 26:28securities specified in the SEC's lawsuit against Finance.
- 26:32The SEC said it's enforcement division did not make formal
- 26:35request for companies to the list crypto assets quote.
- 26:39In the course of an investigation, the staff may
- 26:41sure it may share its own views as to what conduct may raise
- 26:45questions for the Commission. Under the securities laws, stock
- 26:49bonds and other traditional financial industry instruments
- 26:52fall under the Sec's remit, but US authorities remain locked in
- 26:56debate as to whether all or any crypto tokens should fall under
- 26:59its purview. Oversight by the SEC would bring
- 27:02far more stringent compliance standards.
- 27:04Crypto exchanges typically also provide custody services and
- 27:08borrow and lend to customers a mix of practices that is not
- 27:11possible for SEC related companies.
- 27:13Quote there are a bunch of American companies who have
- 27:15built business models on the assumption that these
- 27:18cryptoturkins aren't securities. If they're told otherwise, many
- 27:22of them will have to stop operations immediately.
- 27:24It's very difficult to see how there could be any public
- 27:27offerings or retail trading of tokens without without some sort
- 27:32of intervention from Congress. The SEC declined to comment on
- 27:35the implications for the rest of the industry of a settlement
- 27:38involving Coinbase delisting every other token other than
- 27:41Bitcoin. So this is what I think
- 27:42happened, right. So the SCC in their official
- 27:48filing, they only focused on 12 lightly traded traded assets.
- 27:55And I believe the reason for that is because I don't think
- 28:01that they wanted to know, I don't think they wanted the
- 28:04public to know that if you're holding Aetherium, right, which
- 28:08is what Brian Armstrong is in play, implying in this article
- 28:11is like, look, if you're holding Aetherium or if you're holding
- 28:15anything other than Bitcoin, you know, your funds might be
- 28:18implicated in this. Like they they they don't, they
- 28:21don't want you trading that in the US And I think that's why he
- 28:24went public about it. And I think that's why he told
- 28:26the Financial Times, I think this was like a political chess
- 28:30move because I don't think that, you know, the the vast majority
- 28:37of people in the USI don't think that they agree that, like, I
- 28:39think that if it came out what Gary Genzer, like actually
- 28:43wanted to do. I don't know if you would have
- 28:46the public support to do that, to be honest with you.
- 28:49So I think Brian Armstrong went public and he said, look, like
- 28:52this is they're trying to kill crypto in the US in the hopes
- 28:56that it would make noise, which is why he went to the Financial
- 28:59Times and which is why the SEC declined to comment to the
- 29:02Financial Times. Right.
- 29:04So I think he's, he's trying to use this publicity as political
- 29:08leverage. I mean that that's my, that's my
- 29:10interpretation of it. But I don't know, I find it
- 29:14really interesting. I find the the whole thing
- 29:16fascinating. Yeah.
- 29:18So obviously, you know, we're Bitcoiners and we believe
- 29:23everything other than Bitcoin is security obviously doesn't pass
- 29:28the how we test. The founders still get to
- 29:31change. They think they get to change
- 29:33the monetary policy. They get to change the supply to
- 29:36benefit themselves, right. They own a large portion of that
- 29:39supply of which they dump on the public.
- 29:41This is including Ethereum, by the way, when the price goes up,
- 29:45right? The Ethereum Foundation, XRP,
- 29:48Ripple, all those people. But I think that here, here's my
- 29:53take. I think that this industry is so
- 29:54well entrenched and I think the SCC lawsuit against Ripple like
- 30:00really made it clear like look like selling Ripple on exchanges
- 30:06is not a securities violation. Selling it to private investors
- 30:09is. But that kind of set a precedent
- 30:12in a way, right? I I think that the SEC kind of
- 30:16sat on their hands for a very, very long time.
- 30:19I think it's going to be very difficult for them to to get
- 30:24what they wanted even though if it, even though it's it's it's
- 30:27by the book, it's by the law, right.
- 30:28Like, we know these things are securities, but it's like like
- 30:32whether it's Brian Armstrong, the Ethereum Foundation, the
- 30:34Ripple guys. Like, I think they, they've
- 30:36accumulated so much political influence that like, I don't
- 30:41know if they're going to get their way.
- 30:43Like, I'm sure they've donated to the right candidates, the,
- 30:45the right politicians on the Democratic side and on the
- 30:48Republican side, Yeah, I like, I just, I don't see where this is
- 30:52going. But this is great entertainment
- 30:56and it gives us something to talk about as bitcoiners.
- 30:58Bitcoiners are just like like that meme of that guy.
- 31:00Like like on the sidelines like smoking the bong while the two
- 31:03people are fighting. Like it's just it's great to
- 31:06watch. Like when my bitcoins in cold
- 31:08storage and I'm just like watching this stuff like kind of
- 31:11play out. I would feel kind of insecure if
- 31:14I was holding shit coins in in the US And you know what you're
- 31:19you're 1 executive order away from not being able to to trade
- 31:24these. Like we know what the head of
- 31:26the SEC feels about them now. It doesn't mean that like that.
- 31:31You know, they they can't go through this process and become
- 31:34compliant and then people are aware that they're trading
- 31:37securities on platforms like Coinbase.
- 31:39I just think that they want to avoid that altogether.
- 31:44So anyways, it's my my 2 Sats as a bitcoiner that's been here for
- 31:49a little bit on the whole situation.
- 31:52Interesting how Brian Armstrong used the Financial Times as, as,
- 31:56as, as leverage to kind of get his thoughts out.
- 31:59It was kind of like a scare piece, Opti.
- 32:01I don't know. What do you think bro?
- 32:02Like he's trying to like? Let Toma jump in.
- 32:04Let Toma jump in. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that,
- 32:09but I think also that might give kind of a SEC, some kind of
- 32:14leverage because what we know is that most of the spots ETF
- 32:18application or using Coinbase as a custody service.
- 32:24So what the SEC might do is play both sides saying if you want to
- 32:28be for us to pass those ETF, right, which have you as
- 32:32custody, you're gonna have to delist.
- 32:34Then it's gonna put coin based in a situation where they're
- 32:36gonna have to choose between fees on institutions buying
- 32:40Bitcoin versus fees on retail buying shit coins.
- 32:44So I think. At this stage, even on the
- 32:46financial aspect, it might be interesting for Coinbase to
- 32:51potentially accept that deal if it ever gets there.
- 32:56So I mean, yeah, I think that's my take is that there are
- 32:58definitely things happening in the behind scenes that we're not
- 33:01Privy to and that might tilt the balance here.
- 33:05But I think also to get back to one of your point, I think what
- 33:08they're arguing, Brian Armstrong is not that.
- 33:11The initial sell of the token was not security.
- 33:14I think everyone agrees that the initial sell especially to
- 33:18institution and through marketing initiatives was a
- 33:21security. I think what they're trying to
- 33:23argue is that the token evolves to become or not to become a non
- 33:30security. So I think it's kind of.
- 33:33That's the argument I'm trying to make.
- 33:34So it kind of takes out all the blame of the pre cell, which in
- 33:39my opinion is tough. So yeah, 100%, we have to see
- 33:43where that goes, 100% OPTI, what's your take on this?
- 33:46Yeah, well first Nico, you started with that old video that
- 33:49we did. I forget what you said four
- 33:51months ago and we got a lot of shit for that one.
- 33:53But hey, I don't know, maybe we're vindicated again.
- 33:55So it feels good, love to see it.
- 34:00But yeah, you know, as a bitcoiner, I would love for the
- 34:03Bitcoin industry, Bitcoin and even trick coin industry to
- 34:06remain, you know, the Wild West. Gary Genza keeps saying like we
- 34:09got to regulate it cuz it's the Wild West of finance.
- 34:12And I would love for people to realize on the free market, the
- 34:16open market, that all coins are at scam.
- 34:18But I'm also not naive. And of course the SEC is going
- 34:21to try to crack down on these unregistered securities.
- 34:24You know, if you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
- 34:26So it's obviously that this was going to happen.
- 34:28And I think bitcoiners have been saying this since literally the
- 34:30inception of Bitcoin, that this was going to happen and it's
- 34:33happening and then, you know, we get yelled at by the shit
- 34:37corners and they're calling us status and it's like.
- 34:40Guys This is why you want to hold something that was designed
- 34:42in such a way to withstand this and further route around all
- 34:46this stuff. So I don't think that makes me a
- 34:48status that's why I'm a Bitcoin only This is why I hold Bitcoin
- 34:52And look if you haven't registered your security like
- 34:55it's going to fall under the SEC's purview like these are the
- 34:58rules here in America. If you're based in America,
- 35:00there is certain rules here and of course I would like to see
- 35:03the the playing field, the rules to be flat and and everything
- 35:07treated equally but. They are doing their best to
- 35:11make exceptions of Bitcoin and shitcoin because like we cover
- 35:14all the time. They're they're absolutely
- 35:15afraid of Bitcoin getting out of the gate.
- 35:17And everyone's starting to hold Bitcoin because that eliminates
- 35:21their power of the money printer.
- 35:22So, you know, I'm Bitcoin only. I don't really have to.
- 35:25I really care about this. Obviously, it's going to be
- 35:28interesting to see what this does for the market moving
- 35:31forward. And yeah, Nico, it's like what
- 35:33you said, you know, we're just the meme where it's like the
- 35:35dude hitting the bong, just like watching them fight each other.
- 35:37And it's like, hey. Just you should be holding
- 35:40Bitcoin like, hi guys, we're here we'll we'll show you the
- 35:43way. Just go Bitcoin only it's so
- 35:44simple. Yeah, 100% like literally, it's
- 35:48it's it's it's nice. Just kind of like watching this
- 35:50play out on the sidelines. And is Genzler A bitcoiner?
- 35:55Like it's, you know, like it's kind of weird.
- 35:59It's kind of it's kind of strange.
- 36:01He said that he never owned any, though.
- 36:03But that would be kind of odd. It's kind of weird.
- 36:06Never even made a transaction. It's kind of weird.
- 36:08Like it's like, yeah, everything else is security, bitcoins,
- 36:11dope, but everything else like I don't know, is Gary.
- 36:14I know, I know, Rustin feels a certain way about this.
- 36:18But anyways, just the whole thing is just very interesting
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- 38:42talking about today, brother? Yes, Sir.
- 38:45So we got Toma here from Wiser and actually I'll just give you,
- 38:49I'll just give you the floor. Toma, what is Wiser and what's
- 38:52the goal behind it? Awesome.
- 38:54Yeah. So basically Wiser solves the
- 38:57orange pen problem. So The thing is that when you
- 39:00orange pill someone, the first thing you're trying to figure
- 39:02out is where do I send them? And online there's a few
- 39:06problems that we solved. The first one is that if you
- 39:08send them online to any online resource, the content is all
- 39:12over the place. They get overwhelmed, they don't
- 39:14know where to start. The first thing we do is we
- 39:16create a structure. We have different modules,
- 39:18different topics and you unlock the different classes.
- 39:22The second one is that people have very short attention span
- 39:25these days and whenever you send them material they don't want to
- 39:28read it. They don't want to go through
- 39:29all those long videos or content blogs or blog articles.
- 39:35So what we do is we create bite sized classes, so basically
- 39:38simplify concept and turn it into easy 3 minutes visual read.
- 39:45And finally, what we do is we reward users.
- 39:48So we have a system where you learn to earn.
- 39:51With Sats, obviously we don't have our own token, we don't do
- 39:54any of that. So we just reward people in Sats
- 39:57and we add a bunch of gamification elements.
- 39:59So the idea here is really how to orange build people and we
- 40:03find that giving reward, ensuring that they they know
- 40:07where to start with what to learn next and then adding some
- 40:10social elements. So we also have leader boards
- 40:13where people compete and we have different other social
- 40:16initiatives through Telegram and stuff where we.
- 40:20Promote communication and engagement.
- 40:22So that's what we do in nutshell.
- 40:24Love it. So how has the Orange Pill
- 40:27journey been with Wiser? Have you had any success
- 40:30stories? What do you get pushback when
- 40:33you try to talk to your normally friends out there and get them
- 40:35on the app? Yeah, I mean, the first problem
- 40:39is definitely the problem of Bitcoin versus crypto.
- 40:42Many people don't get that. And when we spend their time in
- 40:45the Bitcoin community, we feel like everyone understands that.
- 40:49But actually when you speak to Normie, it's really hard for
- 40:52them to grasp this concept of what's the difference.
- 40:56So I think this is the main challenge that we face right now
- 41:00when I speak to Normies and then it's finding the right content
- 41:04for them to read or to learn because as I said earlier,
- 41:09people have very short attention span.
- 41:11So what we're trying to target is it's not the people that are
- 41:14initially interested in in Bitcoin and are willing to do
- 41:18the research and spend hours reading.
- 41:20We're targeting more people that spend their time on social media
- 41:24scrolling, and those are the kind of people that we wanna
- 41:28onboard them through Very easy undergo classes with small
- 41:32rewards. Love it, Okay.
- 41:35So what's the end goal for Wiser?
- 41:37Are you guys rolling out some new features?
- 41:41Actually, how long, how long have you guys been around?
- 41:43Cuz I you just came up on my radar a couple weeks ago.
- 41:46So how long have you guys been doing?
- 41:48So we've been, yeah, we've been developing for, for a year now
- 41:52and we launched the public version roughly 2 months ago.
- 41:55So it's going well right now. We're getting very good feedback
- 41:58from from our user. We also have a little merge shop
- 42:01with a bunch of actually I'm wearing one of the T-shirts.
- 42:05So yeah, this is just to support the mission of free education.
- 42:10So yeah, so it's it's going well still early on.
- 42:13We're adding content as we as we go forward.
- 42:16We're going to be adding languages.
- 42:18Spanish has been requested a lot and we're going to be adding
- 42:21advanced advanced education, advanced topics that that will
- 42:26help people as they go forward. So it's really trying to figure
- 42:30out what's the best route to to Orange, build people and then
- 42:33drive them towards something where they can make an impact
- 42:36whether by working in between industry or connecting and and
- 42:40Orange filling themselves other people.
- 42:43Love it. Absolutely love it.
- 42:46What is the final, final end goal is this?
- 42:49Is it going to be, you know, bite size, palatable information
- 42:52throughout the whole time or will they ever get longer form
- 42:56programs out there, you know, get more intricate studies?
- 42:59You, I think you kind of said that you are going to get a
- 43:01little more advanced learning in there, but what?
- 43:04What's the end goal? Yeah, the end goal is just to
- 43:08provide a platform that that can provide free education around
- 43:12the most important topics, which are basically Bitcoin and money.
- 43:15Because at the end of the day, it's not just about Bitcoin,
- 43:17it's Bitcoin and money because people need to understand how
- 43:20the monetary system works to be able to empower themselves.
- 43:23So this is really what we're trying to bring together is
- 43:26understanding the Bitcoin, but also understanding of economics.
- 43:28So we teach economics, Austrian economics, some concept about
- 43:32the financial market. So our idea, the main objectives
- 43:35to build that platform which gives anyone across the world a
- 43:38free access to this knowledge base and help them get empowered
- 43:43financially and then hopefully we're a business, so we need to
- 43:46make some profit as well otherwise we can't grow.
- 43:50So we also have advanced feature where they're behind paywall
- 43:53with pledges that allows us to monetize and keep growing this
- 43:57initiative. Absolutely love it.
- 43:59Absolutely love it. Okay.
- 44:02One more question. What's up with this?
- 44:04Your merge store? You guys got some fire merge?
- 44:07I was checking it out this morning.
- 44:08Let's, let's plug this a little bit.
- 44:11What's the goal? You you said it yourself.
- 44:13You know it's hard to bootstrap your business.
- 44:16And I see some cool stuff on here, bro.
- 44:20Yeah. Thank you.
- 44:21Thank you. Yeah, exactly.
- 44:22We're we're, you know we're bootstrapped.
- 44:24So we're five cofounders putting all the putting work and and
- 44:27time behind this. So you know we're full time
- 44:31looking to fundraise. So in the meantime, we need to
- 44:33get some monetization. We think that pushing because
- 44:36this kind of it's kills two birds in one stone, right?
- 44:40We monetize a bit, but at the same time it helps Orange build
- 44:43people because when they see you walk around with that with those
- 44:45fun Bitcoin tshirts, it always gets the conversation going.
- 44:49I know I get a lot of people asking me questions when I wear
- 44:52those around, especially that one.
- 44:55Yeah, I love it. There's some cool designs here.
- 44:57All right, So for everyone listening out there, what would
- 45:00be a call of action? What do you want them to do?
- 45:03What do you think is the best way to continue the Orange Pill?
- 45:07It's very simple, just go on the website, download the app, and
- 45:10you'll have fun. You'll learn a bit and then
- 45:14whenever you want to Orange Pill someone and they ask you, OK,
- 45:17I'm interested how do I learn more just send them to that
- 45:20because we give them free Sats. So as they sign up we give them
- 45:23Sats. There's referral where they went
- 45:25Sats across the entire process of learning they they'll learn
- 45:29SAT. So that will not just teach them
- 45:30about Bitcoin but also on board them to Lightning because we pay
- 45:33rewards on lightning wallet so they'll learn how to use a
- 45:36lightning wallet. Ultimately that would be to how
- 45:39to use Bitcoin on chain and then ultimately we'll get the ball
- 45:41rolling, give them some Sats to play with and yeah, hopefully
- 45:44that that gets the ball rolled. Love it.
- 45:47All right. Well, guys, for the audio
- 45:49listeners, it is on the Google Play store and on the Apple
- 45:52Store. So I think actually before we go
- 45:56off into the memes, you just told me that you guys revealed
- 45:59or just dropped a new upgrade or some new features yesterday or
- 46:04this week. What was that?
- 46:06Yeah. So yeah, we did a little upgrade
- 46:08so or we added byte size, sorry, we added news bytes.
- 46:14So those are weekly news where we tackle the most relevant news
- 46:19of the week and we try to explain it in the same process.
- 46:22That is simple. So it's kind of like a more
- 46:25efficient way of getting your information for the week on the
- 46:29specific topic. So last week we discussed the
- 46:33BlackRock ETF that we discussed the world coin as well process.
- 46:38So it's just a quick way to get up to date with the most
- 46:40relevant information. And yeah, and we're going to be
- 46:44adding a place where you can gift a pledge.
- 46:48So basically if you want to orange pill people, you can give
- 46:51them a subscription, will they have additional benefits?
- 46:55So just check out the app and you'll see everything to get
- 47:00started. Love it, love it.
- 47:02All right guys, So if you're in audio, download wiser.
- 47:05It's what yzer go to. Wiser dot io.
- 47:09And maybe this isn't for everyone watching the show, cuz
- 47:12they're probably already bitcoiners.
- 47:13Maybe this is to send to your friends and family so that they
- 47:17once they start going down the rabbit hole, get them interested
- 47:19in Bitcoin. And there's a there's a
- 47:21financial incentive as well. I love the I love the merch that
- 47:25has some really fucking cool designs that you got there with
- 47:27the with the, the girl with the gun, you know, And like it kind
- 47:31of shows the little bullets and stuff.
- 47:33That's really, really cool. But yeah man, that's dope.
- 47:36All the power to you. Why don't you tell everybody
- 47:39what's what's the things you can do?
- 47:42Where's the domain? Do you guys have a Twitter
- 47:45handle? Where could people find you?
- 47:49Yeah, so Twitter. It's Get under score wiser and
- 47:53yeah YZ dot I/O YZER is is the best place you'll get all the
- 47:57links. Very, very cool, man.
- 48:00Well, all the power to you. Thanks.
- 48:02Appreciate you fighting in the trenches with us and trying to
- 48:05get as many people orange pills. As possible.
- 48:08All right, everybody, let's get to the memes.
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- 49:03with their Bitcoin node. Run your own All right,
- 49:07everybody. No more delay.
- 49:08Best part of the show? The meme review?
- 49:10Let's do it. The Daily Meme Review.
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- 49:43All right guys, you already know the deal.
- 49:44This is the meme review where you tag its and memes on Twitter
- 49:47at simply Bitcointv or drop them in our Telegram group T dot me
- 49:51slash simply Bitcoin and I will scroll through them and I will
- 49:54add them to the show. I may not get to all of them
- 49:57guys, but I do my best anyways. We already know the deal.
- 50:01Tweets are the bullets, memes, or the artillery.
- 50:03We are in an information war. Continue to spread the signal.
- 50:07Continue to try to orange pill your friends and family.
- 50:10Continue to ridicule the corporate press.
- 50:12This is the way. Anyways, 1st meme is by my boy
- 50:17Wanikis. He's always, always asking
- 50:19whether this is the meme of you. Well, you're here, bro.
- 50:21We got you. Anyways, this meme here is what
- 50:25people think being a bitcoiner is like.
- 50:26And they got this anonymous hacker picture, but what it's
- 50:30actually like. And we got some giga chads and
- 50:33you know, Michael Saylor, Chad, we got Greg Zaz and Pierre
- 50:35Ochard and a Pepe laser eye and, you know, divine God money.
- 50:40And of course an anonymous hacker because it's all of this.
- 50:44This is all of it. OK.
- 50:45This next name is by Beaver Bitcoin on Twitter.
- 50:47And he goes yes. And we got some quotes here.
- 50:50And the first one is, can you explain this gap in your resume?
- 50:53And we got the chat. Oh, there's a therapist meme.
- 50:55All right. Got Chad Bitcoin right.
- 50:57Here it goes. Yeah, that's when I was posting
- 50:59Bitcoin memes to accelerate the destruction of the deep state
- 51:02and reawaken humanity. The sound monetary policy.
- 51:05Sorry, not sorry. This next meme shouts out to my
- 51:07boy Copernicus. He goes simply Bitcoin.
- 51:10This is me at my most PG. And it looks like this is
- 51:14Southwest or no American Airlines.
- 51:16I forget it's on a it's on a airline and it goes, are you a
- 51:19terrorist? Terrorist.
- 51:20Yes or no. And you can see here it goes.
- 51:23Me contemplating if they mean a financial terrorist or not.
- 51:25Wait, which? Which one is it?
- 51:27You're a Bitcoin psychopath. This is the way.
- 51:30OK. This next meme is by Maxie's
- 51:31club and it goes 473 but. And we got a Bitcoin in here and
- 51:36he's looking for a girlfriend. He's on a date.
- 51:39On the bench and she goes, so tell me about yourself and the
- 51:42Bitcoin it goes, I'm not rich. But and then she walks away and
- 51:46leaves him. But I have Bitcoin.
- 51:48I'm I'm not broke. I just just the way my bank set
- 51:52up, I can't really get to my money.
- 51:54OK, this next one is by the therapist.
- 51:56I guess he's in here twice. I didn't realize the fever was a
- 52:00therapist mean, but he's just killing it.
- 52:01And we got The bull market is coming, Hashtag BTC.
- 52:04And this is a play on the strongman.
- 52:05Weak men mean, but we got bear markets create strongman.
- 52:08Strong men create green candles. Green candles create crypto
- 52:12scammers and crypto scammers create bear markets.
- 52:15This is the cycle, all right. This next meme is by the having
- 52:19party MF. And it goes.
- 52:21The bear market may feel like it's dragging on, but the
- 52:23Bitcoin having is coming soon. And we have Tom Hanks in the out
- 52:28what's it? Is it outcasts?
- 52:30Yeah, and outcasts. And it goes 627 days since
- 52:33Bitcoin all time high. It's everyone just counting down
- 52:36the Bitcoin bear market because it's been so long and we're all
- 52:39wrecked and we're getting bear market fatigue.
- 52:42Anyways, this last meme is by Hot oh Cat 21.
- 52:44And it goes. Cats can confirm.
- 52:47And we got a cat sleeping nicely.
- 52:49And it here's an earthquake. Or feels an earthquake and it
- 52:51doesn't wake up. And then there's some concerns
- 52:54about World War Three and it doesn't move.
- 52:56It doesn't get out of bed. And then a tsunami coming and
- 52:59it's unfazed. And then there's the Bitcoin dip
- 53:03and the cat wakes up and wonders what is going on.
- 53:05Because that's the only thing that matters is stacking them
- 53:07stats. Anyways, drop your meme of your
- 53:10score in the chat over there. Oh, it was Castaway.
- 53:12Sorry Castaway. I I butchered it.
- 53:15I I'm literally forgetting all my movies.
- 53:18OK, I for my meme review score. It looks like I'm lagging over
- 53:23here. Nick on my bed for my meme
- 53:25review score. Unacceptable.
- 53:27Unacceptable. I need a new computer.
- 53:29I have this lemongrass and citrus soap for my bathroom.
- 53:36Very, very very. That probably smells delicious.
- 53:38Can I give it? The back of the nodal one.
- 53:41I know I've given the back of the nodal Dojo, but I've never
- 53:44given the back of the nodal 1. So yeah, my score.
- 53:48Anyways, Toma, what would you give those memes?
- 53:52I'll give a little cap why that counts.
- 53:57Very good score, very good score.
- 53:59Anyways guys, Drop, drop, drop your scores in the live chat and
- 54:03we will get to it. Seems like we got a couple
- 54:06coming in first Mclovin. Meme score in the future Bitcoin
- 54:10comes common and obscure. All Bitcoin shows become a
- 54:13Reliance. Yes, simply TV rebranding.
- 54:16Server we've been thinking about that.
- 54:19Probably gonna rebrand. All right, UTXL, My meme review
- 54:24score is Opti's bit rate. Hold on.
- 54:27I got something. Man.
- 54:29Wait. Where'd it go?
- 54:29Where'd it go? All right, Ray Bellavier, I
- 54:35score the memes. Wow.
- 54:36Me telling Christopher Lloyd, aka Dr. Brown about Bitcoin over
- 54:40the weekend at Galaxy Con. Let's fucking go all.
- 54:43Let's go. That's fucking dope, dude.
- 54:45That's awesome. Think orange.
- 54:48I give those memes Jamie Dimon searching for pet rocks and a
- 54:51dusty bowl Stampede. OK, OK Last but not least,
- 54:55Elaine bitcoiners get smart and avoid the orange diggers.
- 55:00All right, we got the buzzer. All right, guys, Thank you so
- 55:03much for joining us. Oh, we got Norwell tacos.
- 55:06Let's not forget about in our well, meme.
- 55:08Score a for the kids tshirts and info pocalypse.
- 55:12I give the memes Brian Armstrong's tears.
- 55:15Very, very nice. We're out of time this time
- 55:18anyways. Guys, thank you so much for
- 55:19joining us on Simply Bitcoin Live.
- 55:20If you enjoyed the show, you know what to do.
- 55:22Smash that like button. If you feel like we provided you
- 55:25value, consider subscribing. But the number one thing you can
- 55:28do to help push the show is share this content.
- 55:31In fact, share all Bitcoin content.
- 55:32I want to give a very special shout out to Toma.
- 55:34Toma, thank you so much for joining us on Simply Bitcoin
- 55:37today. Appreciate you.
- 55:38Why don't you tell everybody one more time where they can find
- 55:41what you're working on these days?
- 55:45Wiser dot I/O YZER dot I/O. Awesome.
- 55:48Go orange, Fill the world. Awesome, man.
- 55:50Well, I appreciate it. And then really happy that
- 55:52you're on our side. All right, guys, if you enjoyed
- 55:55the show, you know what to do. Smash that.
- 55:56Like we will see you tomorrow for another episode of Simply
- 55:59Bitcoin Live at 12:15 PM Eastern Standard Time.
- 56:03Peace out. Y'all.