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Speaker 1: Is the gold reform it. Welcome to the show and
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Speaker 1: more of our role in coverage of this amazing US election.
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump has won. There's stillmore county to come, but
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Speaker 1: Trump is president again in the most astonishing comeback. Democrat prosecutors.
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Speaker 1: They tried to get him jailed on dodgy chargers, two
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Speaker 1: would be assassins, try to kill him. Much of the
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Speaker 1: media tried to bury him. He won. They lost. Now, yes,
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Speaker 1: the county has not finished, but Trump seems to have
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Speaker 1: won all seven of the battleground states like Michigan, especially Pennsylvania,
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Speaker 1: probably Wisconsin too. That's given him maybe even three hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifteen electoral College votes in all, above the two
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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy he needed. And in fact, it looked
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Speaker 1: so hopeless so quickly that the Democrats sent home the
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Speaker 1: crowd at their campaign headquarters, with Harris once again dodging
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Speaker 1: the media and even her own supporters.
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Speaker 2: We will continue overnight to fight to make sure that
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Speaker 2: every vote is counted, that every voice has spoken.
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Speaker 1: So you won't hear.
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Speaker 2: From the Vice President tonight, but you will hear from
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Speaker 2: her tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Oh cowardly, but what a stunning win from Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: He seemed almost serene when he claimed victory well about
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes.
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Speaker 3: Ago, bragkly, this was I believe the greatest political movement
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Speaker 3: of all time. There's ever been anything like.
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Speaker 1: This in this country and maybe beyond.
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Speaker 3: And now it's going to reach a new level of
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Speaker 3: importance because we're going to help our country here.
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Speaker 1: We're going to help our country here.
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Speaker 3: We have a country that needs help, and it needs
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Speaker 3: help very badly. We're going to fix our borders, We're
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Speaker 3: going to fix everything about our country. And we've made
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Speaker 3: history for a reason tonight. And the reason is going
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Speaker 3: to be just that we overcame obstacles that nobody thought possible,
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Speaker 3: and it's now clear that we've achieved the most incredible
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Speaker 3: political there.
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Speaker 1: Look what happened?
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Speaker 4: Is this crazy?
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Speaker 1: Now among all the celebration, there's something very important I
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Speaker 1: think to note. Now that Donald Trump is America's president again,
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Speaker 1: we are now going to learn how much we were
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Speaker 1: lied to, not by Trump, but by the Democrats and
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Speaker 1: much of the media. Kamala Harris's entire campaign was based
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Speaker 1: on a monstrous fly that Donald Trump was a Hitler
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Speaker 1: fan and she was fighting for democracy. Her running mate,
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Speaker 1: the self Confessor knucklehead Tim Walltz called Trump a dictator
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Speaker 1: who would overturn the Constitution. Yeah, well, some Hitler, some racist.
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Speaker 1: You look now at the kind of voters that seemed
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Speaker 1: to have swung this election for Donald Trump, switching away
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Speaker 1: from the Democrats, Black voters, Latino voters, and Jewish voters
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Speaker 1: especially voting for this Nazi so called Like never before,
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Speaker 1: no Republican candidate in years has got their vote as
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Speaker 1: much as Trump.
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Speaker 5: It came from They came from all quarters, Union, non Union,
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Speaker 5: African American, Hispanic American, Asian American, Arab American, Muslim, American.
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Speaker 3: We had everybody, and it was beautiful. It was a
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Speaker 3: historic realignment, gading citizens of all backgrounds around a common
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Speaker 3: core of common sense.
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Speaker 1: You know, that's the man that the Democrats in the
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Speaker 1: media tried to tell the world was a Nazi or
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Speaker 1: a Hitler sympathizer, a fascist. Yet that Democrat line did
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Speaker 1: work dangerously well. An NBC exit poll showed more than
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Speaker 1: half the Harris photucy their top issue was the state
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Speaker 1: of America's democracy. For the Republicans, of course, was the economy,
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Speaker 1: costs of living. But here is now my tip. After
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Speaker 1: consulting the evidence and consulting people work intimately with Trump
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Speaker 1: as a spokesman and the chief of staff, Attorney General.
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Speaker 1: Trump won't be a hitler or a dictator or any
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Speaker 1: of that. He'll just try to do exactly what he said.
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Speaker 1: Secure America's borders, cut taxes, cut red tape, defend Israel,
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Speaker 1: stand up to China, stand up to Iran, and drop
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Speaker 1: restrictions on fracking and gilling, drilling for gas. And with
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Speaker 1: a little luck, America's economy will grow as well as
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Speaker 1: it did in Trump's first go as president, and not
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Speaker 1: one freedom will be lost. The great live of the
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Speaker 1: Democrat campaign will be exposed. Where is that hitler? And
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Speaker 1: what are the Democrats are now going to say by
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Speaker 1: the next Republican candidate? What could they say that could
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Speaker 1: match this utter nonsense they've been saying about Trump? Who
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Speaker 1: will believe them? Who will believe the mainstream media which
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Speaker 1: didn't just sell Trump as an American dictator, but sold
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Speaker 1: the incompetent and vacuous Kamala Harris as the candidate of joy,
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Speaker 1: the savior of democracy. What a fraud that was. Most
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Speaker 1: American voters did not buy it. Now the Republicans are
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Speaker 1: actually set up for twelve years of the White House,
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Speaker 1: four years with President Trump and then another eight with
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Speaker 1: his running made after that. JD. Vance, the most impressive
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Speaker 1: and articulate candidate in this election, is still only forty
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Speaker 1: and even better for Trump, his victory is total. His
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Speaker 1: Republicans will have control of the Senate and probably of
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Speaker 1: the House of Representatives to so no democracy was not
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Speaker 1: threatened by this election. The Democrats were, and they have
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Speaker 1: been crushed after their most disgusting fraud of the campaign
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Speaker 1: and Trump's amazing re emergence unbelievable coming back from almost
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Speaker 1: literally the dead. Okay, but I want to be accused
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Speaker 1: of getting ahead of myself. Let's go down a Lisa
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Speaker 1: Nielsen and US correspond for the latest in the county
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Speaker 1: and Alyse, great to see you again. What can you
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Speaker 1: tell us about, Like I said, any prospect at all
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Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris, who is not conceded, can win.
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Speaker 6: Look, you don't have to concede to win, it's the
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Speaker 6: normal course of action. But frankly, at this point, there's
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Speaker 6: just not any path of the electoral college for Kamala
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Speaker 6: Harris to claim victory. And what we're looking at is
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Speaker 6: these trends across the board not just in the swing states,
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Speaker 6: but we're looking at it in the Senate races, We're
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Speaker 6: looking at it house. We're looking at the prospect of
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Speaker 6: potentially having Donald Trump back in the White House and
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Speaker 6: having control of the Senate and the House of Representatives.
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Speaker 6: This is an emphatic result, but I want to say
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Speaker 6: at the same time, it's not far off the polling
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Speaker 6: that we saw. And this is a feature of the
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Speaker 6: electoral college that you can have narrow results in swing
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Speaker 6: states that add up to a definitive result in the
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Speaker 6: electoral college vote, which you can see right there. This
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Speaker 6: is the comeback of our generation lifetime. I don't think
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Speaker 6: US politics has ever seen a comeback story like this.
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Speaker 7: Donald Trump survived multiple.
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Speaker 6: Legal cases, he survived two assassination attempts.
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Speaker 7: Years ago.
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Speaker 6: It was a story if anyone went to Mara Lago
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Speaker 6: to see the outcast Donald Trump. He's impeached, he's a felon,
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Speaker 6: and now he's going back to the White House. And
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Speaker 6: on January twentieth, he'll be swearing the oath at the
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Speaker 6: Capitol here behind me, and they'll be the handover with
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Speaker 6: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And they made such an
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Speaker 6: issue when he skipped out on that it would be
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Speaker 6: so hypocritical for them to do the same thing.
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Speaker 7: Let's see if they do it.
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Speaker 6: And it's going to be a big message to the
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Speaker 6: American people if they do actually take part in that
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Speaker 6: handover of power.
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Speaker 1: That will be astonishing. As you say, it's an amazing story.
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Speaker 1: Where did he cobble it together? How did he get
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Speaker 1: this eke out this win? It's quite astonishing. We've got
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Speaker 1: to remember too, among all the other things, yet against them,
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Speaker 1: the Democrats raised one billion dollars US to fight this
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Speaker 1: election campaign, much more than Trump, and he still won.
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Speaker 1: So what did he do to win it? Do you think?
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Speaker 4: Well?
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Speaker 6: Look, I mean we know who voted by exit polls,
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Speaker 6: and so we know the votes that have been cast
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Speaker 6: by party lines. But when we start to analyze gender, race, class,
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Speaker 6: we look at income. That's all exit polling, and so
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Speaker 6: there's a little bit more interpretation in all of that.
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Speaker 7: We do know that men came out in strong numbers.
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Speaker 6: And I thought about this a lot when we were
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Speaker 6: meeting women on the ground, and especially the Harris campaign
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Speaker 6: was pushing this idea that women had to go vote
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Speaker 6: for Kamala Harris. Even if your husband hated her because
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Speaker 6: you could have a secret ballot. And I thought about
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Speaker 6: that a lot, because not a lot of people and
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Speaker 6: marriages will do that. Just lie to each other outright
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Speaker 6: and certainly without storializing too much. If anyone's going to
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Speaker 6: be lying, I'd say men are more likely to lie
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Speaker 6: and vote for Donald Trump and not tell their wife,
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Speaker 6: who wants to support.
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Speaker 7: Kamala Harris about it.
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Speaker 6: And I think that's going to play out a little
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Speaker 6: bit in the analysis we're seeing coming out after all
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Speaker 6: of this. But also we're talking about a generational divide.
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Speaker 6: I've just met so many young people who are so
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Speaker 6: desperately hard up because of the economy. They're being told
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Speaker 6: that the economy's great because there's so many jobs, and
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Speaker 6: that is simply not helping ends meet when people have
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Speaker 6: to take on multiple jobs to pay their bills. And
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Speaker 6: I know I've said this a few times today, but
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Speaker 6: it is the thing I took away from speaking to
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Speaker 6: people across the country. I met a young guy on
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Speaker 6: Saturday who is a consultant at a big four firm
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Speaker 6: who is a waiter. He was my waiter, and that's
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Speaker 6: how he's making ends. Meat that is not a healthy economy,
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Speaker 6: and that is not an environment where people feel like
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Speaker 6: they have much to aspire to. When they've been told
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Speaker 6: that the campaign's full of joy, they're not feeling the joy.
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Speaker 7: They're working too hard to feel the joy.
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Speaker 1: And least, I think your coverage of this campaign has
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Speaker 1: been brilliant. Thank you so much, indeed for your time tonight.
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Speaker 1: But let us go to Sean Spicer. He was Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's first spokesman as president. He's been covering this bizarre
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Speaker 1: election race for us on this show, The Bolt Report,
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Speaker 1: all this year. Very glad to have him, particularly so
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Speaker 1: late at night. Sean, how are you feeling.
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Speaker 8: I'm exhausted physically, but I am emotionally so excited. Andrew,
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Speaker 8: it is three ten am here on the East Coast.
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump just wrapped up that speech that you guys saw.
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Speaker 8: It was funny because I was thinking, as you speaking
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Speaker 8: in twenty sixteen, it's almost the exact same time we
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Speaker 8: you know, he took the stage around two fifty am
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Speaker 8: in New York at that small, small reception at the
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Speaker 8: Midtown Hilton in Manhattan. And here we are again, much
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Speaker 8: bigger crowd down there in Palm Beach, but a lot
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Speaker 8: more excited and a bigger win.
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Speaker 4: You know, I had this pegged.
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Speaker 8: At three hundred and six to three hundred and twelve
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Speaker 8: electoral votes. I think we might even exceed that. This
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Speaker 8: is going to be a big, big night for Donald
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Speaker 8: Trump for the Republican ticket, and I couldn't be more
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Speaker 8: excited for the country.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, when you tipped to me that three hundred and twelve,
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Speaker 1: I thought you were getting a little over excited. But
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Speaker 1: you know, just underestimated.
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Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 8: But the thing that's interesting, Andrew, and you commented at
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Speaker 8: the beginning of your monologue there we were lied because
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Speaker 8: I don't just pull this stuff out of air. When
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Speaker 8: you and I spoke about this over weeks. Remember, initially
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Speaker 8: I was concerned about Nevada, and then I saw the
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Speaker 8: data move and I said, hey, here's why I'm moving
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Speaker 8: Nevada into the Trump column. It was all based on data, right.
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Speaker 8: I didn't just pull it out of air or say, God,
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Speaker 8: I'm a Trump supporter and I wanted to win, so
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Speaker 8: I'm going to pick a number out of the air.
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Speaker 4: And the media ignored that.
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Speaker 8: They lied to the American people over and over again
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Speaker 8: by convincing us that you know that he couldn't win
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Speaker 8: that the coalition that he was putting together was useless,
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Speaker 8: that his ground game was horrible.
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Speaker 4: They just didn't want to do that.
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Speaker 8: Panel after panel, show after show, refuses to allow the
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Speaker 8: American people to see that there are people out there
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Speaker 8: that support Donald Trump and these policies. But they want
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Speaker 8: to pretend that it doesn't exist, that it's some kind
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Speaker 8: of zoo animal that you go off in pet. Sometime,
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Speaker 8: the American people spoke loud and clear tonight. Not only
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Speaker 8: did Donald Trump win, but Kamala Harris got slacked right
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Speaker 8: and key constituencies that's supposed to support the Democratic Party
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Speaker 8: walked away from her. Black men in a lot of
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Speaker 8: urban areas didn't perform as well.
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Speaker 4: You look at not.
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Speaker 8: Just the battleground states Andrew, but states that are reliably blue.
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Speaker 8: My home state of Rhode Island. Unbelievable. It was fifty
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Speaker 8: three percent New Jersey, fifty two fifty three. Haven't looked Iowa.
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Speaker 4: They pulled. They told it.
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Speaker 8: They told us for the last few days that Kamala
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Speaker 8: Harris was up three points and they paraded around this
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Speaker 8: Des Moines Register pole saying that women were breaking, you know,
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Speaker 8: for her, and this was amazing. Donald Trump won Iowa
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Speaker 8: by fourteen points tonight, six points more than he won
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Speaker 8: in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 4: The media wanted to parade around that.
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Speaker 8: She was up three points. They wanted to create, you know,
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Speaker 8: suppress the vote. This was an embarrassment, and I think
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Speaker 8: they're going to wake up tomorrow and forget how complicit
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Speaker 8: they were and what happened tonight. Most Americans found what
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Speaker 8: the media did tonight said and for those people who
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Speaker 8: read the New York Times of the Washington Post or
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Speaker 8: Politico or CNN or the NBC News here in the States,
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Speaker 8: you know, at some point you've got to understand that
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Speaker 8: they're not telling you the truth and you need to
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Speaker 8: find alternative sources to get your information.
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Speaker 1: Oh. I think that's a huge story in this, in
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Speaker 1: this result. And I've got to say, you know, even
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Speaker 1: our own ABC devoted I think about a ten minute
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Speaker 1: interview this morning with the polstery did that Iowa? Oh,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump's going to win a lose Iowa by three
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Speaker 1: points or what? Everything else? And as you say, he prompt
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Speaker 1: it in they're picking up any little hint to try
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Speaker 1: to build up the idea that she had momentum. It's
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Speaker 1: just extraordinary. But as Sean this. This is a massive
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Speaker 1: victory for Trump. Of course for the Democrats. I wonder
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Speaker 1: whether this should really cause an explosion in that party
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Speaker 1: because those Democrat power brokers, they forced out Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: as their candidate when he imploded in his debate with
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. They they enforced Harris onto the parties. They
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Speaker 1: can it without even a vote of any delegates, even
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Speaker 1: though she'd be one of the most unpopular vized presidents
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Speaker 1: of recent history. And they knew she was no good,
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Speaker 1: which is why they hit it from the media for
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Speaker 1: almost the entire campaign, particularly not one press conference there.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of finger pointing there.
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Speaker 8: You know what, Andrew, it's a great question you're asking
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Speaker 8: because I've had guests on my podcast last few days
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Speaker 8: and I've been playing this little game if Trump were
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Speaker 8: to lose, what do you think the analysis is and
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Speaker 8: vice versa.
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Speaker 4: I think it's going to.
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Speaker 8: Be really interesting with the media and the left uses
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Speaker 8: the excuse one do they claim, well, it was China
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Speaker 8: or Iran, or North Korea or Russia. They already used
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Speaker 8: the Russia hoak, so I don't know that they can
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Speaker 8: use that twice. But I think that it's going to
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Speaker 8: be someone, you know, is there's no way that this
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Speaker 8: possibly could have happened.
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Speaker 4: So who do we blame for this? Then they're gonna
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Speaker 4: blame Biden.
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Speaker 8: Then they'll blame Harris, and then I think you're going
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Speaker 8: to see the progressive wing of the party, the Bernie Sanders,
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Speaker 8: the Alexandria Casio Kortez saying that she just went is
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Speaker 8: it progressive enough, and that they need to attack further
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Speaker 8: to the left. I will be fascinated to see other
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Speaker 8: The real answer is they lost touch with the American people.
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Speaker 8: The American people don't want open borders. They don't want
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Speaker 8: to be told that it's price gouging, not the policies
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Speaker 8: of the left that are causing massive inflation throughout our country,
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Speaker 8: still affecting the cost of everyday goods for so many Americans.
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Speaker 8: Who I will be interested to see whether they even
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Speaker 8: try to come up with a real reason why this
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Speaker 8: didn't work, or whether they just make excuses for themselves
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Speaker 8: and move on.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think Sean that if everything goes well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, barring international crises, barring some unforeseen scan all
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. But Trump's win puts the Republicans
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Speaker 1: in line for twelve years now in the White House.
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Speaker 1: Trump can only serve this one more term, having already
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Speaker 1: been president. Once that sets up, the man is going
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Speaker 1: to be his vice president JD. Vance, who I think
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Speaker 1: was the most impressive performer of the four candidates, the
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Speaker 1: two presidential and two vice presidential, and he could and
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Speaker 1: should then win two terms himself as president. This is
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Speaker 1: a golden time potentially for the Republicans.
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Speaker 4: It is because Jedi Vance, you know, you've got Trump.
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Speaker 8: He'll bring in the America First Agenda and I think
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Speaker 8: really have a different focus than he did that first term.
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Speaker 8: But then Jdi Vance, you know, he just turned forty
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Speaker 8: two months ago. He's going to bring a youthfulness and
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Speaker 8: a new generation perspective to this. So this is a
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Speaker 8: perfect handoff of the baton, if you will, of the
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Speaker 8: America First Agenda to a younger generation, and he'll be
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Speaker 8: ready to move forward.
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Speaker 4: But I'm excited about not.
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Speaker 8: Just what President Trump will do this first four years,
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Speaker 8: but then this transition from Trump to Vance.
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Speaker 1: Now Trump the dictator, Now that was Harris's big claim, right,
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Speaker 1: He's a Hitler fan, as a tyrant, his democracy is
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Speaker 1: under threat. The media ran with that too, most of it.
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Speaker 1: Trump is now going to prove that is a lie.
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Speaker 1: He won't be a dictator. That's going to expose a
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Speaker 1: lot of people. Do you expect some serious soul searching
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Speaker 1: in the Democrats or in the media because people aren't
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Speaker 1: going to buy this kind of rubbish second time round.
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Speaker 4: I hope not.
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Speaker 8: I think, as I said, the Democratic Party will be
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Speaker 8: interesting to see whether or not it's real or not.
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Speaker 8: I was at the Republican National Committee when in twenty
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Speaker 8: twelve after we lost, we did a lot of soul searching.
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Speaker 8: We looked at how we did business as a party
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Speaker 8: and said what can we do better to win? And
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Speaker 8: I think despite some of the media misinterpretation as to
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Speaker 8: what that report looked like, we talked about outsourcing and
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Speaker 8: better utilizing third party organizations to do a lot of
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Speaker 8: the mechanical logistic thing. I think that paid off. Think
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Speaker 8: about what's going on now in terms of the ground game.
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Speaker 8: But secondly, you bring up the media. I was there
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Speaker 8: in twenty sixteen after the election when senior executives from
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Speaker 8: NBC News admitted that they missed it and said that
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Speaker 8: they were going to correct it. I don't think they will.
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Speaker 8: I think they had a chance to do it after
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump won in twenty sixteen, even after the election
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Speaker 8: was close in twenty twenty, they've doubled down on stupid
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Speaker 8: and I don't think that there's this election is going
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Speaker 8: to be any different. I think they'll make excuses, but
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Speaker 8: they don't want to. They don't like Donald Trump. They
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Speaker 8: hate Donald Trump. They hate people who support Donald Trump.
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Speaker 8: You saw that the coverage leading up to them. There's
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Speaker 8: no way that all these people who went all in
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Speaker 8: basically spreading this information about where the race stood and
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Speaker 8: the support that Donald Trump have are suddenly going to
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Speaker 8: have a come to Jesus moment tomorrow.
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Speaker 4: Not gonna happen.
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Speaker 1: I would have thought they'd be ashamed of misreading the electorates.
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Speaker 1: Bet no, no, no, no, they're not ashamed.
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Speaker 8: They'll come up with an excuse. They'll come up with it.
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Speaker 8: They're not ashamed of it. They have no shame. They
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Speaker 8: literally will wake up tomorrow and make an excuse up
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Speaker 8: and again, I think they'll be the first to figure
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Speaker 8: out some country or outside entity or Martians down an
20:00
Speaker 8: influence of selection because it wasn't them for certain.
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Speaker 1: Just finally, Sean, we've talked about this before. Donald Trump
20:10
Speaker 1: let's face it, he has got an ego. There's got
20:12
Speaker 1: a lot to be egotistical about, even now, particularly now,
20:15
Speaker 1: I would have thought, but self willed and all that,
20:18
Speaker 1: you give him advice and he can just trample all
20:21
Speaker 1: over it. And you know a lot of enforced theres
20:23
Speaker 1: in this campaign as well. I don't think the election
20:25
Speaker 1: should have been as close as it was. But how
20:29
Speaker 1: do you think this win then is going to change
20:32
Speaker 1: Donald Trump?
20:36
Speaker 8: You know, Andrew, this is a good question because I
20:40
Speaker 8: think that he may may think about his legacy. How
20:45
Speaker 8: do I want to go down in history? And this
20:48
Speaker 8: could be an opportunity.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
20:51
Speaker 8: I think we've seen Donald Trump. I don't think you're
20:53
Speaker 8: going to see that much different. But I think that
20:54
Speaker 8: there's a point at which we all I mean, look,
20:56
Speaker 8: he had a come, he had his own brush with death.
21:00
Speaker 8: That assassination attempt merely you know, almost took his life.
21:04
Speaker 8: And I think now winning in the way that he did,
21:07
Speaker 8: there's an effect that it has on people to think
21:09
Speaker 8: about their legacy. And so hopefully he stops and says, okay,
21:14
Speaker 8: how can I govern maybe a little differently, Not that
21:16
Speaker 8: I want him to do. I'm just saying that I
21:18
Speaker 8: think that there's always a moment of reflection, and he's
21:20
Speaker 8: going plenty of time between now and January twentieth to
21:23
Speaker 8: do that.
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Speaker 1: I think there's no more big battles for him to winnie.
21:27
Speaker 1: Can't be president another time after this, And so maybe
21:31
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you will be tempted
21:33
Speaker 1: to look at his legacy instead not builting someone to
21:37
Speaker 1: the canvas. But we shall see showing that sponsor, you
21:41
Speaker 1: have called this brilliantly over the journey. We'll see you
21:43
Speaker 1: again next week. But thank you so much for your
21:46
Speaker 1: analysis tonight.
21:47
Speaker 4: It's been a pleasure being with you.
21:50
Speaker 1: Next temperature of the good on you, mate. We don't
21:54
Speaker 1: go anywhere. Our coverage of the US election continues after
21:56
Speaker 1: the break. James Barra joins this lide from North Carol, Carolina,
22:01
Speaker 1: because we've got to really drill down into the lying
22:05
Speaker 1: that went on about Donald Trump. Americans were told that
22:12
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was a hitler, a dictator, a convicted felon,
22:17
Speaker 1: a rapist, and their democracy was in danger.
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Speaker 9: We are fighting for a democracy.
22:23
Speaker 10: We are fighting for a democracy Democrat.
22:30
Speaker 1: Prosecutors even tried to put Trump in jail, using every
22:33
Speaker 1: dirty trick in the book, yet Americans still voted for him.
22:37
Speaker 1: Joining me from North Carolina, Iscar and New's host James Morrow. James,
22:42
Speaker 1: great to see you again, particularly that time of night.
22:46
Speaker 1: Why did the Democrats in the media fail to destroy
22:50
Speaker 1: a man they described as a convicted felon rapist and
22:54
Speaker 1: a threat to democracy.
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Speaker 11: Oh, it's a great question, and you have to start
23:00
Speaker 11: at the beginning with all of this, of course, you know,
23:02
Speaker 11: because when Trump came to power in twenty sixteen, it
23:05
Speaker 11: was because Americans fundamentally felt that there was something wrong
23:09
Speaker 11: with the way the establishment, the left captured establishment, and
23:12
Speaker 11: I'm talking about politics. Many corporate suites, much of the media,
23:17
Speaker 11: all of academia, all of the schools, and a lot
23:20
Speaker 11: of other big.
23:20
Speaker 1: Organizations were performing for them.
23:22
Speaker 11: You know, the economy wasn't working for them, Immigration wasn't
23:25
Speaker 11: working for them, Trade wasn't working for them. And they
23:27
Speaker 11: saw that the game was rigged. So you know, what
23:30
Speaker 11: did they do. From twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, They
23:33
Speaker 11: tried to take them out of power.
23:34
Speaker 1: It didn't work.
23:35
Speaker 11: From twenty twenty on to twenty twenty four, they tried
23:37
Speaker 11: to put them in jail and did everything else. Oprah
23:40
Speaker 11: Winfrey the other day said that if Donald Trump wins
23:43
Speaker 11: this election, it will be the last chance Americans have
23:46
Speaker 11: to cast a ballot instead of just simply saying, hey,
23:50
Speaker 11: we're in power and we're not serving our constituents, we
23:53
Speaker 11: might change tack on things around migration or trade or
23:57
Speaker 11: culture wars or whatever the thing. They just said, No, no, no,
24:01
Speaker 11: this guy is our Emmanuel Goldstein. He is the enemy
24:04
Speaker 11: that must be destroyed. And that's great for people who
24:07
Speaker 11: are in that club, you know, because they've got somebody
24:09
Speaker 11: who they can say, oh, well, yeah, this is what
24:11
Speaker 11: we hate. But you know, as the election results show,
24:14
Speaker 11: you know, you have forty percent of people maybe hate
24:16
Speaker 11: Donald Trump, you know, really hate the guy, but that's
24:18
Speaker 11: not gonna be enough to get you enough extra votes
24:21
Speaker 11: to get you over the line. And the whole thing
24:24
Speaker 11: about the lying and the telling, the lies, of the character, assassination,
24:27
Speaker 11: of the destruction, it's because ultimately Trump was pushing up
24:32
Speaker 11: against an establishment that was, you know, a great, big,
24:35
Speaker 11: hollow edifice. There's nothing inside it in terms of anything
24:38
Speaker 11: to offer anybody, and so he was able, I think,
24:41
Speaker 11: to stand up to this and win.
24:45
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think you're right that they didn't have much.
24:47
Speaker 1: Keavila Harris didn't offer much to unify people in terms
24:51
Speaker 1: of something positive, so she unified them by hate, you know,
24:55
Speaker 1: two minute hate against Trump or like a two months
24:59
Speaker 1: hate against him. And I just wonder, particularly with the
25:02
Speaker 1: media falling for this, isn't the lesson for the Democrats
25:06
Speaker 1: in this and also the left in Australia, Humility, James, Humility,
25:12
Speaker 1: stop treating half the voters of the country as racists,
25:16
Speaker 1: as fascists, as garbage.
25:22
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, you know that's correct. And one of the
25:24
Speaker 11: really interesting things we're seeing out of some of the
25:26
Speaker 11: exit pool results here is that, you know, all of
25:30
Speaker 11: these minority groups which Democrats had taken for granted, are
25:33
Speaker 11: really starting to shift towards Trump and the Republicans. And
25:37
Speaker 11: this is part of a fundamental realignment that's happening in
25:40
Speaker 11: the political system. And I think it's happening here too,
25:43
Speaker 11: because you know, all of these groups that the Democrats
25:46
Speaker 11: had counted on, they realize that this compact of the
25:49
Speaker 11: Democrats and the left offers them, you know, which is
25:51
Speaker 11: really just about you know, low wages, high crime dysfunction,
25:56
Speaker 11: you know, culture wars, ninety mist of the schools. It
25:59
Speaker 11: doesn't work for them, lift their migrants and their newcomers
26:01
Speaker 11: and trying to make it in the country. And there's
26:03
Speaker 11: some lessons here also, I think for Anthony Albertizi and Labor,
26:07
Speaker 11: who have been trying to run some real players out
26:10
Speaker 11: of the Biden playbook. We saw on the Queen'sland election.
26:12
Speaker 11: You know, let's whip up fear about abortion restrictions, you know,
26:15
Speaker 11: and you know, ripping off Joe Biden's student loan forgiveness.
26:19
Speaker 11: You know, all of these things didn't work for the Democrats.
26:22
Speaker 11: And if Labor is also concurrently out of ideas in Australia,
26:27
Speaker 11: which it seems like they are, you know, don't rip
26:29
Speaker 11: off these ideas because they don't work for you.
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Speaker 1: I think that's right. Look, I think the Democrats are
26:36
Speaker 1: also going to have to confront they on Earth. They
26:38
Speaker 1: ended up with the candidate so terrible as Harris. Another
26:40
Speaker 1: result was relatively close, and yet I mean that ignores
26:46
Speaker 1: the advantages and incumbascy, the hatred that's been poured on
26:50
Speaker 1: Trump for so long, the massive amounts of money the
26:53
Speaker 1: Democrats are going for them, the incredible media support the
26:57
Speaker 1: Democrats had, and the vilification don Trump and also Trumps
27:02
Speaker 1: some false theirs. I've got to say, I thought he
27:04
Speaker 1: campaigned raggedly, and yet you know, but they had in Harris,
27:09
Speaker 1: someone who had almost no policies, had almost no clue,
27:14
Speaker 1: who was too scared to give a single press conference,
27:17
Speaker 1: who was just trained to perform the same script written
27:21
Speaker 1: for her by faceless background people with the same platitudes
27:26
Speaker 1: and even the same gestures. Have a look at this.
27:29
Speaker 7: Are you ready to make your voices her?
27:34
Speaker 9: Do we believe in free arm? Do we believe in
27:39
Speaker 9: our journey?
27:57
Speaker 1: That's the thing. They campaigned with an empty vessel. It
28:00
Speaker 1: couldn't connect on a human level with voters, didn't Is
28:03
Speaker 1: that the case?
28:04
Speaker 7: Well?
28:05
Speaker 11: Yeah, well, yes, completely the case. I mean, I remember
28:07
Speaker 11: in twenty twenty, Kamala Harris bombed out of the primaries
28:10
Speaker 11: when she tried to run for president on her own
28:12
Speaker 11: right in twenty twenty because she was so utterly unlikable.
28:15
Speaker 11: She came to the vice presidency because they needed to
28:18
Speaker 11: balance the ticket. And then you know, they tried to
28:21
Speaker 11: do this weird thing where they tried to flip out
28:24
Speaker 11: the presidential candidate do kind of a parliamentary sort of thing,
28:27
Speaker 11: like you's seen a parliamentary government almost you know, putting
28:30
Speaker 11: a new leader and then speed run them to an
28:32
Speaker 11: election to hope you get through. You know, that's what
28:33
Speaker 11: they were trying to do here. And we've seen this
28:35
Speaker 11: happen in kind of end of term governments in Australia
28:38
Speaker 11: as well. It doesn't work, so, you know, it was
28:41
Speaker 11: an active desperation, the fact that they talk about democracy
28:45
Speaker 11: and yet obviated this fundamental American democratic principle, which is
28:50
Speaker 11: that nominees are vetted by this primary and caucus process
28:53
Speaker 11: so that you know, people understand who they are, and
28:56
Speaker 11: then tried to subvert essentially the press by doing and
29:00
Speaker 11: then run around them and not talking to the video
29:02
Speaker 11: which they keep saying, oh, you know, the first moment
29:04
Speaker 11: there's a check on American darks and all this was,
29:06
Speaker 11: you know, but then completely ignoring it. You know, it's
29:08
Speaker 11: the height of hypocrisy.
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Speaker 1: No one are they lost. I just think there's going
29:14
Speaker 1: to be a lot of finger pointing going on here, James.
29:18
Speaker 1: I believe that Barrick and Barack Obama and Michelle Obama
29:22
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily want Kamala Harris at all. Other grandees foisted
29:27
Speaker 1: her on them. There was a thought that oh, my gosh,
29:30
Speaker 1: we can't you know, give, you know, stop a black
29:34
Speaker 1: woman from getting her chance. That would be racist and
29:38
Speaker 1: they paid for it. James Mura, thank you so much,
29:41
Speaker 1: indeed for your election coverage this week and coming on
29:46
Speaker 1: the show so late at night. I really appreciate it.
29:49
Speaker 1: Anthony Albanezi issued a statement on Trump's victory. He says,
29:54
Speaker 1: congratulations to President Donald Trump on his election victory. Australians
29:59
Speaker 1: an American are great friends and true allies. Working together,
30:04
Speaker 1: we can ensure the partnership between our nations and people's
30:07
Speaker 1: remain strong in the future. Completely anodyne and we don't
30:12
Speaker 1: forget that. Anthony Albaneze has slagged off Donald Trump what
30:16
Speaker 1: was at a festival seven years ago, and has got
30:19
Speaker 1: an ambassador in Washington who said even worse things about Trump,
30:23
Speaker 1: that he was a menace to democracy, he was using
30:27
Speaker 1: the Bible to condone violence, he was playing nuts. Let's
30:30
Speaker 1: see if Kevin rud can maintain his position as our
30:35
Speaker 1: ambassador to any good effect for Australia. After the break,
30:41
Speaker 1: After the break, I've got to talk to you about
30:44
Speaker 1: something that is really positive about what Donald Trump did,
30:49
Speaker 1: really positive. And Ron Deine is exactly the right person
30:52
Speaker 1: to talk about it. After this, let me explain why
31:01
Speaker 1: the victory of Donald Trump is actually great news for
31:04
Speaker 1: conservatives here as well, and by conservatives, I of course
31:08
Speaker 1: exclude George Brandis, who was our attorney liberal attorney general,
31:15
Speaker 1: liberal attorney general, who wrote a piece in the Sydnema
31:18
Speaker 1: Herald Trump dodged a bullet let's hope the world does too,
31:22
Speaker 1: and he loses, and an article mentioned the words fascist
31:26
Speaker 1: and demagogue, and the whole thing, in fact, in fact,
31:30
Speaker 1: celebrate the defeat of Kamala Harris is also a defeat
31:34
Speaker 1: of the horrendous woke army that's been running right in
31:38
Speaker 1: the West, including here, for years. And I think it's
31:42
Speaker 1: impossible to exaggerate just what a woke icon Harris would
31:46
Speaker 1: have become had she been allowed to steal this election
31:49
Speaker 1: with a Trump Is Hitler lie. For a start, she
31:54
Speaker 1: was the identity politics candidate, campaigning as a black woman
31:58
Speaker 1: for black audiences and as an Indian one for Indians
32:01
Speaker 1: and changing her accident again if she was talking to
32:04
Speaker 1: university graduates. So she literally bent the knee to the
32:08
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement, a movement that had torched many
32:12
Speaker 1: cities and even touted for donations for bail money to
32:17
Speaker 1: free some of the rioters. Trump, in contrast, is ruthlessly
32:21
Speaker 1: pragmatic and color blind. Your performance is everything to him,
32:26
Speaker 1: your race is not. I mean, just look at the
32:28
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs is surrounded himself with On. There's a campaign Elon
32:31
Speaker 1: Musk and Vividka Ramaswami. Has Trump ever made a point
32:35
Speaker 1: of Ramaswami also having Indian descent or his running mates
32:40
Speaker 1: her wife also. And then there's Harris's woke beliefs. Most obviously,
32:47
Speaker 1: she didn't get how important borders really are to her country.
32:52
Speaker 1: She led in ten million immigrants when she was actually
32:54
Speaker 1: charged with turning them back as vice president and all
32:57
Speaker 1: that crazy stuff. You know. This is the polo tician
33:00
Speaker 1: who wants boasted how she got tax pays to pay
33:03
Speaker 1: for sex changes for prisoners and back doing the same
33:07
Speaker 1: for illegal immigrants.
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Speaker 10: I made sure that they changed the policy in the
33:12
Speaker 10: state of California so that every transgender in me in
33:17
Speaker 10: the prison system would have access to the medical care
33:21
Speaker 10: that they desire to need.
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Speaker 1: This is the vice president who center birthday cand to
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Speaker 1: Dilan Mulvaney, the struggling actor who turned himself into an
33:31
Speaker 1: Internet sensation announcing him become a woman, scoring an invitation
33:36
Speaker 1: even to the Biden White House. That's the same White
33:38
Speaker 1: House or the administration that even boasted about appointing a
33:41
Speaker 1: transgender admiral and had transgender activists flauned themselves bare breast
33:47
Speaker 1: of the White House garden Party. Now Harris is also
33:52
Speaker 1: and this is most important, the global warming warrior who
33:56
Speaker 1: wants vowed to banfracking for gas. Trump, on the other hand,
34:01
Speaker 1: use exactly that stupid comment to campaign against Harrison the
34:05
Speaker 1: key state of Pennsylvania lots of gas and coal and
34:10
Speaker 1: all coal Marne in particular, and that was the crucial
34:13
Speaker 1: battle battleground state that she's now lost. And what's more,
34:17
Speaker 1: he has promised to rip up the Barden Harris global
34:20
Speaker 1: warming schemes. In fact, Trump promises to be all around
34:24
Speaker 1: the enemy of the woke, promise to ban the diversity
34:29
Speaker 1: schemes in the public service. And it's going to be
34:31
Speaker 1: sure to resist the grown cause by authoritarian governments, including
34:34
Speaker 1: our own government, to restrict the free speech on the internet.
34:39
Speaker 1: So Trump's win is one for us here as well
34:42
Speaker 1: for all friends of freedom and opponents of the new
34:46
Speaker 1: tribalism that's been dividing us for too long. Joining me
34:51
Speaker 1: is Ron den It's in chief of The Spectator Australia
34:53
Speaker 1: host of Outsiders the Sky News every Sunday at nine am,
34:56
Speaker 1: and a man with a big grin on his face
34:57
Speaker 1: because he predicted this win months ago, Rowan Dean, Great
35:03
Speaker 1: to see you again. Trump's win. How important do you
35:06
Speaker 1: think it is?
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Speaker 12: It's hugely important and not just correct you.
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Speaker 13: I actually predicted a landslide win for Trump three years
35:15
Speaker 13: ago and I haven't deviated from that over the last
35:17
Speaker 13: three years. I am alone amongst all the commentators and
35:21
Speaker 13: journalists in the mainstream media of Australia to have picked
35:24
Speaker 13: that and to have called it a landslide. And I'm
35:27
Speaker 13: delighted that that is what has occurred. But it does
35:30
Speaker 13: not surprise me. And the reason it does not surprise
35:32
Speaker 13: me is for the very reason you have mentioned. Much
35:35
Speaker 13: like the Voice campaign here last year, this.
35:39
Speaker 12: Was a direct referendum on wokeness, on the entire vile, nasty, spiteful, sanctimonious,
35:48
Speaker 12: supercilious ideology known as wokeness, which includes everything from climate
35:53
Speaker 12: change to transgenderism, to open borders to the list goes
35:58
Speaker 12: on and on.
35:59
Speaker 13: The people have rebelled in the States against it. They
36:02
Speaker 13: rebelled against it here in Australia, common sense every day Americans.
36:06
Speaker 13: I put my faith in the American people.
36:08
Speaker 14: I was asked by a friend of mine the other evening,
36:10
Speaker 14: are you still sure that Donald Trump.
36:12
Speaker 13: Will win in a landslide? And I said absolutely, one
36:15
Speaker 13: hundred percent. Then she said why, and I said, because
36:18
Speaker 13: I put my.
36:19
Speaker 14: Faith in the intelligence of the American people, much as
36:22
Speaker 14: I put my faith in the intelligency of Australian people.
36:25
Speaker 14: During the voice Andrew, this is the end of wokeness.
36:28
Speaker 14: Albineza will be gone at the next election. Here's another
36:30
Speaker 14: predictional offer you for free.
36:33
Speaker 13: Peter Dutton must now seize the moment and realize that
36:37
Speaker 13: the Liberals can and win will win the next election
36:41
Speaker 13: if they take the Donald Trump playbook and tackle the
36:45
Speaker 13: cultural issues, because it's those issues. Promise a great economy,
36:49
Speaker 13: Promise to get rid of all the w nonsense, Promise
36:51
Speaker 13: to stop wasting money on renewables and tack and promise
36:55
Speaker 13: that girls won't go into a changing room and be
36:58
Speaker 13: confronted by some bloke.
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Speaker 12: That's what Donald Trump did.
37:01
Speaker 13: He spoke up for the average person and their concerns
37:05
Speaker 13: about their lives. That is why he had won, and
37:08
Speaker 13: that is how Peter Dunton can also win.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about messages to the politicians, Rowan, I
37:16
Speaker 1: suspect that someone that I regard as potentially a future
37:21
Speaker 1: prime minister, one of the most brilliant and courageous people
37:23
Speaker 1: in Parliament, obviously, Senator Justenter dam Price will note, will
37:31
Speaker 1: note that Trump has smashed the race politics model that
37:36
Speaker 1: this labor government's followed and that the Democrats followed disastrously
37:41
Speaker 1: in this election. He is now one forty percent of
37:44
Speaker 1: the Latino vote. That's more than any other Republican Canada
37:48
Speaker 1: before him. That the Democrats thought I had the lock
37:51
Speaker 1: on the Latino vote is one at least well in
37:55
Speaker 1: the mid twenties, twenty percent of the Black vote. That
37:58
Speaker 1: was once again almost a total Democrat locke. And has
38:02
Speaker 1: done it without playing the race politics of the left,
38:05
Speaker 1: you know, stoking racial division, feeding racial grievances, promising quotas
38:11
Speaker 1: the rest. I think this is huge.
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Speaker 14: It's absolutely huge, Andrew, and I'm glad you meant to
38:19
Speaker 14: mention Senator j just Center Price because she is the
38:21
Speaker 14: living embodiment of genuine reconciliation in this nation. And that's
38:26
Speaker 14: why people warm to her, and that's why people love
38:28
Speaker 14: her because she doesn't play oh I'm black or I'm this,
38:31
Speaker 14: or on whatever.
38:31
Speaker 12: She cares about being an Australian first and foremost.
38:35
Speaker 4: Again, that is what Donald Trump did.
38:38
Speaker 14: At no point, as you mentioned earlier, did he go, oh,
38:40
Speaker 14: look I've got Vivek he's an Indian, Or did he
38:42
Speaker 14: go JD.
38:43
Speaker 12: Vans's wife, she's Indian. I believe he didn't need.
38:58
Speaker 1: Have we lost the run? Yeah, I'm sorry, we've lost thrown,
39:04
Speaker 1: We've lost he own. We'll have to come back to
39:06
Speaker 1: him well, or maybe we can't. Apologies for that, you know,
39:11
Speaker 1: I thought I was going to ask ron. I thought
39:14
Speaker 1: one really strange factor that might have played a role
39:19
Speaker 1: in it came late and relatively late in the campaign.
39:22
Speaker 1: Could have been Peanup the pet squirrel. Now he lived
39:27
Speaker 1: for seven years with owner Marked longer and longer used
39:32
Speaker 1: him Peanup the Squirrel and his friend Fred the Raccoon
39:36
Speaker 1: to raise money for his wildlife shelter. Someone snitched on
39:40
Speaker 1: them saying, hey, it's a leal. They have a squirrel.
39:42
Speaker 1: Official seized it and then killed it. Now Trump's son,
39:46
Speaker 1: Don Junior, was outraged.
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Speaker 15: Think about it. Our government will let in sixteen thousand rapists,
39:52
Speaker 15: they let in thirteen thousand murderers, They'll let him six
39:55
Speaker 15: hundred thousand criminals across our border. But if someone has
39:58
Speaker 15: a pet squirrel without a permit, they go in there and.
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Speaker 4: Kill the squirrel. Think about it.
40:04
Speaker 15: That's Democrat, that's the Democrat Party.
40:08
Speaker 1: You know, it's made huge headlines. It actually became a
40:11
Speaker 1: symbol of government overreach, the whole Karen culture of the Democrats.
40:16
Speaker 1: This is more than some backpage story about a pet squirrel.
40:20
Speaker 1: And I suspect that, well, rip peanut the squirrel. But
40:26
Speaker 1: he would have reminded a lot of voters that what
40:28
Speaker 1: they really did want was to have government off their back,
40:33
Speaker 1: and the whole Karen industry, the whole woke crowd, all
40:37
Speaker 1: those finger waggers telling you how to live your life
40:42
Speaker 1: no more. I wonder whether that would have won one
40:45
Speaker 1: or two seats of states for Donald Trump. Well, anyway,
40:52
Speaker 1: after the break, we'll have more in our continuing Electronte coverage.
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Speaker 1: Michael Cossa Daniel Wilde will join me for they take
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Speaker 1: on how today's outcome will effect Australia because there is
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Speaker 1: one big warning sign here for Anthony Abnezi. So can
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Speaker 1: we pause for a moment on the show out of
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Speaker 1: respect for the grief that is now being felt by
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Speaker 1: all those ABC staff their trauma. Okay, that's enough. So
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Speaker 1: how will Trump's win effect Australia. Number One, the Albanizi
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Speaker 1: government is now going to look even more stupid, pushing
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Speaker 1: its global warming schemes, its net zero target, it's war
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Speaker 1: against fossil fuels. You see, the last time Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: was president, he pulled America out of the Paris Agreement
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Speaker 1: to cut emissions and is promised to do it all
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Speaker 1: again because Baden stupidly signed them back up again. He's
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Speaker 1: also promised to scrap the trillions of dollars of the
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Speaker 1: Biden administration has been thrown away on Green's schemes. Kind
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Speaker 1: of schemes by the way, that this Albanezy government is
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Speaker 1: spending your money on as well.
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Speaker 3: They've spent trillions of dollars fine things having to do
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Speaker 3: with the Green new scam.
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Speaker 1: It's a scam and that's.
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Speaker 5: Caused tremendous inflationary pressures in addition to the cost of energy.
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Speaker 1: Joining me and Daniel wild Deputy Executive director of the
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Speaker 1: Institute of Public Affairs, and Michael cost the former Labor
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Speaker 1: Treasurer of New South Wales. Daniel Wilde, how do you
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Speaker 1: think Trump's win is going to affect the Albanize government
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Speaker 1: starting with the whole Global Warning project.
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Speaker 16: Well, exactly as you said, Andrew, I think net zero
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Speaker 16: is now dead. If it wasn't dead before, it's certainly
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Speaker 16: dead now. A couple of headline points, Andrew, I think
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Speaker 16: that this has, this win has the capacity to be
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Speaker 16: a giant shift to the Western alliance and the global order,
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Speaker 16: perhaps on a level of that similar to nineteen eighty
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Speaker 16: when Reagan had a big victory and the revolt of
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Speaker 16: the common man and women across the Western world against
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Speaker 16: the elites and the ruling class continues. And that's what
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Speaker 16: this was, an emphatic rejection of the political elite in
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Speaker 16: the United States, and we've seen it elsewhere on continental Europe,
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Speaker 16: in the UK, here in Australia with the Voice. So
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Speaker 16: it continues, but certainly with net zero and climate policies, Andrew,
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Speaker 16: which really to the benefit of China. I mean net
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Speaker 16: zero is causing the reorientation of global economic supply chains
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Speaker 16: around one of the biggest adversaries to the Western global order,
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Speaker 16: which is the Chinese Communist Party. We should never have
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Speaker 16: signed up up to it. Morrison and Freidenberg made a
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Speaker 16: massive mistake in doing so. So I think the victory
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Speaker 16: of Trump will show that we need to have energy sovereignty,
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Speaker 16: national security, and put our nation's interests in the Western
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Speaker 16: Alliance first. And I think that this will be a
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Speaker 16: very positive move in a sensible direction.
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Speaker 1: Andrew, Yeah, the point you're making about China, of course,
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Speaker 1: is that China doesn't have to cut its emissions. In fact,
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Speaker 1: they've been soaring. Is both far and away the biggest
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Speaker 1: measure in the world, and we're cutting out a huge
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Speaker 1: risk in the West and transferring some so called polluting
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Speaker 1: industries through China, which is making hay while we suffer.
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Speaker 1: Michael Costa, what do you make of all that?
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Speaker 17: Well, I hate to be a wet blanket on all
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Speaker 17: of the euphoria at the moment. With Trump, we've got
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Speaker 17: the best of obviously two bad candidates in my view,
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Speaker 17: and I think there's going to be some real challenges
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Speaker 17: to the global water. Just to take the first point
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Speaker 17: that Daniel talked about, and we've got the issue of Ukraine.
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Speaker 17: What his position is going to be on Ukraine. Certainly
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Speaker 17: is going to be strong on Israel, and I worry
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Speaker 17: about Taiwan as well. But in terms of the question
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Speaker 17: you asked Andrew for the Albanezi government, I think there
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Speaker 17: are some lessons here. I don't think it's going to
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Speaker 17: be on energy policy and I think they're all locked
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Speaker 17: into the net zero. I think it's going to be
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Speaker 17: on cost of living, and that's where energy policy really
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Speaker 17: does play a factor, and I think they're so foolish
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Speaker 17: that they haven't recognized that. And also this notion that
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Speaker 17: somehow an interest rate cut, small one coming up, some
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Speaker 17: are going to save the Abanese government, I think is
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Speaker 17: proven by this election to be a nonsense. Remember there
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Speaker 17: were significant interest rate cuts in the US before this
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Speaker 17: particular vote and made no difference. And there's a couple
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Speaker 17: of other small issues that the government's playing with. I
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Speaker 17: think did come to the fore in the issue. This
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Speaker 17: notion you can tax unrealized capital gains, which was part
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Speaker 17: of the Democrats policy, went down like a lead balloon,
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Speaker 17: and that's the Abanese government is trying to do that.
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Speaker 17: At the moment as we speak, there's also this issue
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Speaker 17: with the hex payments. They think that's an election winner.
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Speaker 17: Remember Biden, you forgave or attempted to forgive huge amounts
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Speaker 17: of student debt in the US. That didn't seem to work.
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Speaker 17: So I think there's some challenges there. But I agree
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Speaker 17: with the notion that we've reached peak identity politics workism,
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Speaker 17: and really that's not a winner for anybody. But the
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Speaker 17: isolationism is a worry, and we've got to look at
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Speaker 17: our defense budget. We can't rely on the United States,
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Speaker 17: and I think the next election ought to have as
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Speaker 17: a key center component the pathetic state of our defense
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Speaker 17: for and the inability of this government to fund projects
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Speaker 17: and look after our own defense.
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Speaker 1: I have to agree with that last point at Daniel.
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Speaker 1: I would love to think that Trump would be a
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Speaker 1: Reagan or a Thatcher in terms of internetion, but there
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Speaker 1: is an isolationist program. The point, of course, is that
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Speaker 1: we didn't have much of a choice. We had a
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Speaker 1: candidate was weak on Ukraine versus a candidate was weak
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Speaker 1: on Israel. You pick your poison, But I do have
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Speaker 1: one hope that there are people around him, like Jack
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Speaker 1: Keene is a regular on this show. General Jack Keane
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Speaker 1: who Trump tried to make his defense minister twice, a
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Speaker 1: defense secretary twice when he was first president. Jack Keene
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Speaker 1: is red hot on defending Ukraine seeing part of wider
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Speaker 1: World War, and maybe wiser heads will prevail. But can
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Speaker 1: we really expect it.
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Speaker 16: Well, it's a couple of things, Andrew. I mean, firstly,
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Speaker 16: I think Trump Mark two will be very different to
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Speaker 16: Trump Mark ie. He acknowledged that some of the people
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Speaker 16: he appointed in his first administration weren't the best people.
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Speaker 16: It's likely he's going to have the Senate and the Congress.
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Speaker 16: The other thing, Andrew is there are no more never
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Speaker 16: Trump Republicans. They all threw their toys out of the
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Speaker 16: they're in the Democrats, and well, how's that working out
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Speaker 16: for them? So he's not going to be thwarted in
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Speaker 16: a way that he was in his first two years
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Speaker 16: as president. So I think he's going to see a
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Speaker 16: very emboldened Trump. I think he's also someone who's spoke
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Speaker 16: about the need to unify the country and he's probably
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Speaker 16: learnt a lot to be honest over the last eight years.
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Speaker 16: So in terms of the Western order, Trump has always
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Speaker 16: been very solid on that. I understand the point about isolationism.
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Speaker 16: But if you look at the speeches that he gave
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Speaker 16: in Poland, for example, in his last time he was president,
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Speaker 16: he clearly has an understanding of the centrality of Western
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Speaker 16: values in Western civilization, which is the kind of leadership
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Speaker 16: we need out of an American leader. Is he perfect, No,
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Speaker 16: but he may very well be the leader that we
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Speaker 16: need for the kind of times that we're living in.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're giving. You don't have a perfect choice about
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Speaker 1: this kind of thing, you know, Michael. I just wonder
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Speaker 1: whether we did actually end up both far and away
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Speaker 1: with a better candidate.
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Speaker 17: I don't think there's any doubt of that. And it
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Speaker 17: became more and more obvious during the campaign that Kamala
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Speaker 17: Harrison was clueless. I mean, those word salads are and
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Speaker 17: I've got to say that I suppose the most significant
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Speaker 17: component in terms of their out of touchness was the
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Speaker 17: way that they try to demonice, you know, Trump is Hitler.
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Speaker 17: I mean, that was an insult to all those Holocaust victims.
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Speaker 17: Try to put Donald Trump on the same level.
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Speaker 12: As that of Hitler.
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Speaker 17: I mean they deserve to lose just.
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Speaker 4: On that alone.
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Speaker 17: I mean it was a disgusting I've never seen any
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Speaker 17: so disgusting and.
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Speaker 1: Pol true and smacked a great Daniel Wilde, thank you,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much to you both. That's it for
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Speaker 1: me more coming up with Sherry markson good note