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Vergil Ortiz Explosive KO! Vergil Ortiz vs Boots Ennis Next/2026? Preview Eubank Jr vs Benn 2! · The Rope A Dope Radio Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, what up boxing fans. This is the rope of
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  Speaker 1: Double Radio podcast. I am your host, Chris Carlson. We
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  Speaker 1: are alive on a Wednesday afternoon. Hope everybody's doing okay.
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  Speaker 1: We have some things to talk about, whether we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about in the ring, like the fight coming up between
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  Speaker 1: you Bank Junior Connor Ben, the rematch which I have
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  Speaker 1: to admit the first time around, I didn't know what
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  Speaker 1: to think about it. You know, I didn't know how
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  Speaker 1: competitive it would be throughout and Connor Ben, for me anyway,
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  Speaker 1: you know, overperformed. So the rematch I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's worthy. It was a good fight, it
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  Speaker 1: was competitive fight, and we'll see which fighter can improve
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  Speaker 1: on the last performance. I did think you Bank won
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  Speaker 1: the fight clearly, but like I said, I thought and
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  Speaker 1: kind of overachieved. And you know, the odds say he's
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  Speaker 1: gonna get knocked out per se, you know, as far
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  Speaker 1: as betting with which one's more you know, favorable to
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  Speaker 1: actually happening. But I don't know. I think Ben can
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  Speaker 1: make it. I do. I just I think you Bank
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  Speaker 1: Junior will improve on his performance. But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the betting odds, it does you know,
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  Speaker 1: the betting folks, they think that there's a better chance
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  Speaker 1: that you bank wins by knockout than there is decision.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes. Though, you know, obviously
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  Speaker 1: there are some whoops, I just hit something wrong. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on here. Okay, there are some
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  Speaker 1: other items we'll talk about from the weekend. Banosa Raphael's
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  Speaker 1: Banosa's back in action, so we'll talk about that as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then of course what happened in the ring. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Virtual Archies handled his business. Excuse me, jeez, completely, I
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  Speaker 1: mean talk about handling your business. He had Lubin on
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  Speaker 1: the rope quick and he took him out. There's no
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  Speaker 1: way around it. He took him out. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a great performance, phenomenal performance, really and you know, now
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  Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about what's next, and there
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  Speaker 1: seems to be you know, a fair amount of back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. Let's put it that way on this and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll talk it. We'll talk about it. I
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  Speaker 1: think I hope it happens in twenty twenty six. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not getting my hopes up for it happening in the
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  Speaker 1: first quarter, per se, or even the second quarter. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: in the summer. I don't. I doubt it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be next, but who knows. You know, it's just considering
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  Speaker 1: the they both fought recently. Obviously Artiez just fighting, but
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  Speaker 1: it's not like Boots. It hasn't been that long since
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  Speaker 1: he fought. But for them to already have this much
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  Speaker 1: talk on the negotiations in a sense, and to already.
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  Speaker 2: Be beefing publicly, basically negotiating publicly before they've finalized anything,
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  Speaker 2: you know they do have.
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  Speaker 1: There is some proof out there that they've discussed the
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  Speaker 1: parameters of this fight and that both will get a
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  Speaker 1: fight in and then they'll fight one size. One side
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  Speaker 1: is saying one thing, the other side is saying another.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get into some of that. Aerol Spence his
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  Speaker 1: name has uh entered the frame, entered the building because
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  Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz said that's his dream fight. There's the A side,
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  Speaker 1: B side, there's Ortiz manager, who always seems to say
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  Speaker 1: some goofy stuff. But we'll get into some of that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, this is I didn't say this actually,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm saying it now. This is the afternoon show.
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  Speaker 1: I have just a little time to fit in this show,
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  Speaker 1: so it won't be extra long. John's not calling in unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, just my schedule this week a little funky.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna do one when I got home later,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I just didn't get around to it.
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  Speaker 1: I like I said, I kind of got home late,
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  Speaker 1: and and you know, the sky lit up. The sky
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  Speaker 1: was lighting up, and I had missed some of it,
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  Speaker 1: and the northern lens were just popping off. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: you had to do what you had to do. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna look at that. You Bank Junior Ben
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  Speaker 1: preview predict it. Delante Johnson had a really good, uh
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  Speaker 1: performance over the weekend, and yeah, just uh there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of drama all of a sudden with this Orties
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  Speaker 1: Boots thing, which doesn't surprise me. Boots did get in
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  Speaker 1: the ring. People are saying a bunch of stuff will
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  Speaker 1: get into that, like I mentioned, Yeah, and then you
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  Speaker 1: know some other some other fight news. There was a
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  Speaker 1: fight that was finalized, but I mean we knew it
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  Speaker 1: was gonna happen, but now that we know, well it's
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  Speaker 1: on pay per view, let's just put it that way,
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  Speaker 1: and we just it's like the powers that be are
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  Speaker 1: just addicted to this pay per view man, and when
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  Speaker 1: you hear Archies's manager talking about ten million, this is
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  Speaker 1: a product of you know, drastically overpaying fighters. Now this
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  Speaker 1: isn't to point out or Cheese in particular, right, but
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  Speaker 1: if you if I'm a fighter, and if I'm a manager,
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  Speaker 1: and if I'm a promoter, whatever, and I'm seeing forget
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  Speaker 1: the A sides, I'm seeing what B sides are making
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  Speaker 1: now it depends on you know, what a who the
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  Speaker 1: A side is that you're fighting. There's probably gonna be
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  Speaker 1: more money, obvious money in it, obviously, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: people have been vastly you know, like overcompensated. That's just
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  Speaker 1: just no way around it, you know, And we've been
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  Speaker 1: talking about it for a while. You know this if
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  Speaker 1: you look at you know, the things that HBO we're saying,
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  Speaker 1: and the media was saying about the PBC and how
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  Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to keep up with that
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  Speaker 1: type of pay. And okay, sure that definitely disrupted the market.
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  Speaker 1: But when Dione came in and then Turkey came in,
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  Speaker 1: like that's one of the main reasons why you're hearing
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  Speaker 1: that Now, there's more to it. Right from our ties side,
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  Speaker 1: I do think they know it's a dangerous fight, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But Eddie Hearn's saying a lot of stuff about A
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  Speaker 1: it's not about A side B side. But we know
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  Speaker 1: damn well, if Eddie Hearn had the A side and
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  Speaker 1: the A side wasn't favored in the fight, he'd be
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  Speaker 1: singing a different tune, right And that's no shade to him,
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  Speaker 1: that's just true, you know. But we'll get into it
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  Speaker 1: in just a short little bit. Let's start in the
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  Speaker 1: ring like we do. You know, I like to start
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  Speaker 1: in the ring, period. It has to be some huge
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  Speaker 1: of going through ooops, what the heck? All right? So
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  Speaker 1: kind of talking through this fight. I mean, obviously it
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  Speaker 1: didn't last long. You know, Ortez right away started breaking
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  Speaker 1: Luban down with the left hook to the body. He
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  Speaker 1: landed a nice right hand through the guard as well.
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  Speaker 1: Luban early and late. You saw him back down the
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  Speaker 1: ropes very early, and like I said, late in that round.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, it's one thing Orties you could say,
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  Speaker 1: maybe put him in the corner a little bit, but
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like overwhelming, you know. So I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a big mistake from Lubin. You heard like Sergei
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  Speaker 1: or Morris say he's a master boxer, like an outside
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  Speaker 1: boxer defender, and I just a master Like that's what
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  Speaker 1: he does is out box people left and right. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know about all that. He just doesn't have the
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  Speaker 1: When you're on the ropes that long, you have to
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  Speaker 1: have first of all, you got to be a counterpuncher.
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  Speaker 1: Second of all, you got to be a hell of
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  Speaker 1: a defender. And third of all, you don't fucking sit
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  Speaker 1: on the ropes that long. Now, just because he was
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  Speaker 1: on the ropes, if he got off the ropes, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean he'd win the fight. Okay, that's not what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought it was just like, really, dude, second round,
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  Speaker 1: right hands to the head once again, Luban on the
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  Speaker 1: ropes again, more left hooks to the body, caught him
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  Speaker 1: with a huge, huge right hook, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: a few nice right hooks, a couple more of those,
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  Speaker 1: and once he caught him with that one right hook,
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  Speaker 1: Luban was out on his feet. I guess you could
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  Speaker 1: say out on the ropes. I thought it was a
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  Speaker 1: really good stoppage because you look, you know, Lubin's head
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  Speaker 1: falls down, he's out, and you know he was he
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  Speaker 1: could have got teed up, you know, Ortiz Virgil could
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  Speaker 1: have just tore him up, you know. So it was
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  Speaker 1: a good stoppage and a great performance by our tees.
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  Speaker 1: We can talk about Lubin is you know, in all
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  Speaker 1: three of his losses he's been knocked out. He got
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  Speaker 1: caught with the perfect punch just I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: two of his knockouts were early, right, the Charlo one
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  Speaker 1: was very early, and he just got caught with a
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  Speaker 1: precise punch in here. You know, he got caught and
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  Speaker 1: was out on his feet. So a great performance by
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  Speaker 1: Virgil Ortiz. You could see Robert Garcia, you know, give
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  Speaker 1: him some advice, like, hey, dude, call him down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. You know, you had a great round. I
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  Speaker 1: think he called it a beautiful round. It was beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, we need you to just you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to go in attack mode. And really
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have to go in crazy attack mode at
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  Speaker 1: all and let these huge shot go because like just
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  Speaker 1: to do it, because Lubin was already backing in the ropes,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So I thought he stayed fairly, fairly composed
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  Speaker 1: and you know, worked his way into land in a
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  Speaker 1: good shot. Like I said, a lot of it was
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  Speaker 1: the left hook to the body, so it was the
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  Speaker 1: kind of overhand straight, kind of looping right through the guard.
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  Speaker 1: But then those right hooks and he hit him with
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  Speaker 1: a couple of good ones and then really hurt him.
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  Speaker 1: So great performance just in general. We also had and
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to the drama and all that, but like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I want to I want to start in
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  Speaker 1: the ring here. We did have Darius Fulgum and David Stevens,
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  Speaker 1: and they did fight to a draw. I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was two scorecards was a draw. One
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  Speaker 1: of them was in favor of Darius for just by
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  Speaker 1: a round like ninety six ninety four. I believe. I
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  Speaker 1: thought Fulghum had a good start the first let's see here,
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  Speaker 1: first three four rounds, but then well, first three and
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  Speaker 1: but then you know, the rest of I'd say the fourth, fifth,
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  Speaker 1: and sixth. Anyway, I was gonna say halfway point, but
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  Speaker 1: it is past the fifth. Then that was Stevens, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and he then it was kind of a little
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: back and forth and there was some competitive rounds in there.
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  Speaker 1: You could say they just split the last you know, seven, eight, nine, ten,
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  Speaker 1: you could go two and two. So I was fine,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely fine with the with the with the draw. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was. I thought it was more than than
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  Speaker 1: worthy of a draw. I did. I did think it was.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a great fight, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's not like, dude, you gotta watch.
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  Speaker 1: If you didn't see it, you gotta watch it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it just wasn't It wasn't a good fight. And you
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  Speaker 1: know there was other like there was other like the
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  Speaker 1: Eric Priest, uh Carrera. I believe it was. That was
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  Speaker 1: another competitive fight. That was a split draw. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: if I had to pick someone in that one, I
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  Speaker 1: probably would have leaned Eric Priest, just barely one of
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  Speaker 1: the judges. Let me see. Actually, so seventy six, seventy six,
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  Speaker 1: seventy seven, seventy five for Carrera and then seventy nine
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  Speaker 1: seventy three. And I didn't think it was that wide.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was about my scorecard two to two
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  Speaker 1: after four and then it can go kind of back
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  Speaker 1: and forth. It's only an eight rounder, right, and so
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  Speaker 1: did you just score the last four rounds, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you had it, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I thought it was very competitive. But I would
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  Speaker 1: have gave it to Priest. I don't think the draw
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  Speaker 1: is like the worst thing ever, but I would have
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  Speaker 1: gave it. I probably would have gave it to Priest.
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  Speaker 1: So it was, like I said, it was, we had
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  Speaker 1: some competitive fights on the card, so that's a positive.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it was just okay. Let's put it
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  Speaker 1: that way. It was just okay. And just to kind
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  Speaker 1: of talk about some other items from the weekend, Like
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  Speaker 1: I said before, we go outside of the ring and
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  Speaker 1: if in fact Virtual Ortiz and Boots Ennis is gonna fight,
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  Speaker 1: not even next but just in twenty twenty six. And
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  Speaker 1: I know when people hear that, they're probably like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: what you know. It's like, I hear you, man, But
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  Speaker 1: I'm just a realistic boxing fan, man. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: we get it in twenty twenty six, that's all that
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  Speaker 1: matters to me. I just wanted this this coming year.
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  Speaker 1: Whether it's next, whether it's in the summer, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I just I do want it though, obviously, but
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  Speaker 1: I just know how the business goes, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: then we had oh the pro Box. Yeah, we had
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  Speaker 1: Delonte Johnson, Nicholas Fly is it Flaws Flas Flaws Flas.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Johnson came out and I thought I thought
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  Speaker 1: the second was was kind of close. I gave Johnson
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  Speaker 1: the first, gave him the third as well. Obviously the
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  Speaker 1: the you know, Nicholas Flaws had a good jab. He
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  Speaker 1: was laying in a few right hands. Obviously, Johnson I
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  Speaker 1: thought had the better jab and right hand, and he
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  Speaker 1: was landing him just cleaner, you know, And that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what it was. It was a jabb right hand that
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  Speaker 1: dropped him. It was a really good shot. And I
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: thought Delante in general just looked look good in this
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  Speaker 1: this fight. I really did. I liked what I saw
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  Speaker 1: out of him. You know, he's got he's got some
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  Speaker 1: length to him. He's definitely got some length to him.
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  Speaker 1: And after that, it was like in the fourth race,
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  Speaker 1: so he he he landed some of those that right
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  Speaker 1: hand super hard right and you're thinking, oh boy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and Johnson came out landing early left hooks, then some
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  Speaker 1: more right hooks and then hooks just in general with
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  Speaker 1: both hands, and then two more really good shots. Say
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  Speaker 1: it was just a rap, dude. You know, he looked
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  Speaker 1: really good. I liked. I really liked what I saw.
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  Speaker 1: So now he's coming off a couple of good wins
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  Speaker 1: now and uh, very good performance. So you know he's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that he's at welterweight. So Tiger Johnson, we'll see,
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  Speaker 1: you know where he goes. What he's capable of. I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: just thought it was just a really solid performance, you know,
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  Speaker 1: nothing crazy per se, but just solid. You know, really
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  Speaker 1: really liked what I had to what do he.
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  Speaker 3: What he what he gave us split that way, let's
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  Speaker 3: see also uh Aka tug.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is because they kept sometimes the tea
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: was silent and it was suji suje suhi suji akatushi. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: that dude landon left hooks to the body. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think all I think there was. I think there
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  Speaker 1: was four knockdowns, all of them too the body, his
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  Speaker 1: jab in left hand to the head. He came out
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  Speaker 1: very sharp sharp. I really liked the distance that he
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  Speaker 1: fought at. He looked good. Aka t g. Every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while they the s would or the t
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  Speaker 1: at times was silent. Other times it wasn't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what. During the broadcast, that's what I got out
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  Speaker 1: of it. But either way, he looked really good. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: definitely thought he looked good in that fight. So that's
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  Speaker 1: probably all the recap I'm gonna do. When it comes
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: to that stuff. I will get into the U Bank
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  Speaker 1: and Connor Ben fight in just a second. But you know, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: like I mentioned, Boots comes into the ring and the
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  Speaker 1: crowd you know, he's saying, hey, you're gonna pay for
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  Speaker 1: all the shit you talked, and the crowd's booing, and so,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's always fun to be like hey,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know. The way some media members were
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: talking about it, it almost sounded like it was done.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: And then when they were like, I thought it kind
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: of threw me off that they some people were like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: should I thought it was signed, you know, and I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: knew it wasn't signed. There was really no reason to
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: think it was signed. Also, Dominic Valet Valet, he looked
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  Speaker 1: good too. He looked good. Matt, I did get it.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just going through some of my messages. Yeah, that's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a good call. He did look at it. So you know,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we hear okay, they're you know, they're gonna fight this,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: that and the other. And then the media is asking
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: questions to Oscar, to Eddie, to Boots, but especially Eddie,
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  Speaker 1: and then obviously or teas Virgil comes out and says, well,
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  Speaker 1: if I had my because they're saying, hey, if you
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: had your choice or if you you know, what's the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: fight you want? And they're all saying the right stuff
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: to an extent. Robert Garcia is saying he's got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of options as well. We'll see if you know,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the fight actually happens next or whatever, and a lot
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of people kind of jump to Virgil or tease saying
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: that Earl Spence is his dream fight. Now he has
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: said this in the past. A lot of people I've
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: seen are like, oh, he's never said this before. Well
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that's not true. He definitely has said that he wants Spence.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: But of course, you know our reaction to that, boxing
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: fans are like, what Spence hasn't fought in two and
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: a half years. Now, let's make this fight now. You
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: know you offer you offered a fight last year with them.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: You know, signs were pointing to this is gonna be
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the fight, YadA, YadA, YadA. Right, But I mean I
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: can understand from a fighter's perspective and just virtual artis
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: in general his perspective on this fight, because it is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you know, it makes a lot of sense in Texas,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it would do. It would do a big ass crowd, right,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: And so even if we think it's hardcore, is, oh,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Spence is washed. He hasn't even fought, and it does
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: seem like he's gonna fight here. But we don't really know,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you know, would you rather him get in there with
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: like a pretty good fighter, although it doesn't you know,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but he usually doesn't do tune ups. But I think
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if Spence is gonna do anything at this point in
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: his career, he should probably take a tune up or
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: at least close to one, just like a solid fight.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Maybe not the top of fifty four, but anyway, you know,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: like the casual fan, no spense, and so it can
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: be sold to him that, oh, he's taking a break
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and he's much fresher and he's focused and you know,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he's healthy. He needed to take a break after his
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: accidents and after the Crawford fight and all that. So,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: like thinking as a hardcore in believing everything that comes
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: out of people's mouths, going into a fight is one thing,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: but the reality is that would sell both on pay
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: per view in the life gate. So that's undeniable, right,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that is undeniable. I know people don't want to hear it,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: but it is true. Even Arlow fight would sell really well. Right,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And Charlotte hasn't fought uh in over two years. It
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: was September twenty three that he last fought, so you know,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: when you hear virginal like Robert Garcia's trainer, he definitely stop.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Made it sound like either they're not gonna want the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: fight in general, or they have options, which they do
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: have options. You know, one pint fifty four has a
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: lot of fights that we could say some of the
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: guys in their prime are already fighting. Fandora has a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: fight with thurman Zaiez. You know, the list goes on.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of them that are just you know,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: tied up right now. So I entered. I just the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: thing is, though, when I hear Virgial Ortis managers say
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: ten million, or don't send the contract maybe basically seven zeros,
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: or we're not even going to pay attention to it,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you know that sounds fishy as hell? Now would it do?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Would this fight do well, you know, in Vegas or
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: in Texas or I guess in Philly too. Yeah, of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: course of course it would. And this is it. He said,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: don't send shit our way unless it has seven zeros
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: on it, or we won't even or it won't even
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: get looked at. So if you're already publicly negotiating like this,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and of course the A side B side, you know
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Oscar says he's the A side. We're the A side,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it how we're gonna do it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And like I mentioned, Eddie Hearn coming out saying it's
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: not about A side B side. The money's there for
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: a pay per view, let's make the fight. If he
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: as I mentioned, if he had the A side in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this fight, and you know it, and he he wasn't
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: favored because as of right now, they put up the
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: odds and he's not necessarily favored. Right, Eddie could be
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: singing a different too, obviously, and that's just factual, you know,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: but you think you know his managers out there, you know,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he's basically saying he wants suspence. I think Ortiz Spence
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys Stadium stadium, biggest all all Texas matchup in history.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: He's doing the coat main with Charlo and Boots and
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the winners fight each other, right, makes sense? Charlo and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Boots turned down or Tez, you know, and here's the deal.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Like I like ten million for this fight. Like like
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I said, will it do better than some other pay
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: per views? Sure, but it's still not gonna do that. Well,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you know, people, like I said, I think it'll do
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: good at the live gate. I definitely think that, but
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: just to announce that this is your price, to me,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: it sounds you know, some people think, Okay, he's outpricing himself,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: you know, purposely. He can definitely make more money fight
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and Spence. I'll say that it's up for debate if
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: it would be Charlote making more money. But I just
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, once you're already talking to a side b
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: side this loudly in saying we have other options. So
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: right now, you know, it's kind of skewed towards Boots
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: being the guy getting ducked right as far as the
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: public right, and because before it was just the opposite.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: You know, we heard about him getting offered a fight
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: with virtual artis beside Turkey come up and say, oh
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: he wanted to tune up. You know, there was like
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Boots decided he doesn't want to go to fifty four.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: He wants to stay at forty seven to try to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: be undisputed. He unified, had another fight and decided to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: go up. He can't make you know, can't make one
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: forty seven anymore. He got himself a fight up there.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: He's acclimated and now he's ready. So at one point
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: in time did they jump to make this fight. No.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: But you know, the more you look into it, you
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: can see both sides of it, you know. And this
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: is where I just said some shit about Eddie. That's true.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: But also I've seen him in interviews saying when we
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: actually sat down and talked about it, they were saying,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you know, they're going to fight Ortez, We're going to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: fight somebody and then we'll meet first quarter or whatever.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And so they they don't have a done deal, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they have some parameters figured out, and so you know,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you can say on the Ortes side whatever you want.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Are you the A side? Sure, sure he's drawn more
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: attention than the last handful of years, but it's not
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: like he's a guy that creates like, you know, five
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: million dollar gates or something like that. And he doesn't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: have a pay per view that is, you know, now
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: either does Boots, and Boots sells you know well in Philly.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: But if you look at he actually went a little
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: downwards at Philly just because of the opponent. I believe
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: now it was a competitive fight though I will say that,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, you know, I just I you
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: could say Virgil artis the a side. That's cool and
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: if you have options, you know, I understand why you'd
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: fight Spence. A lot of people are like, dude, that's
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: a duck. Okay, cool, but if he fights them in
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, that's all for me as a realistic
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: boxing fan that realizes how the business works and doesn't
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: sugarcoat it. It doesn't like go with the fandom first,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: as far as like I like a certain fighter, so
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna shit on people. You know. It's kind
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: of like the Glovegin thing. You know, everybody said Glovegin
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: was getting ducked, and then once he got the Canelo fight,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: then all of a sudden he didn't want to fight
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: certain fighters and you're like, okay, well now he's in
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: the money mode. So yeah, I understand fully why Virgil
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Ortiz wouldn't want to fight Spence. It's a lot of money.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: It helps your name. But yeah, when you when you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: say ten million, and like I said, it's a direct
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: A lot of this is just directly coming from over
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: paying people at a high level, and that's what they did,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: so you know, that's just what they did. So this
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: is what you're gonna get. So I can't sit there
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and be like I can't believe it, you know. So
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm really hoping this fight happens in twenty twenty six.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Another thing is as much as I hate it, another
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: thing is, you know, like I don't know, man, I
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: just I think that I don't. I don't know. Like
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: the Zone came out, I did kind of forget to
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: mention this. The Zone came out and said that we're
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: gonna basically force them. We're gonna force Ortia. Snow do
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: they have is it a Canelo situation where they is
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: he signed with Golden Boy and Dione in his own
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: or just Golden Boy and Golden Boy has an agreement
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: of you you know, you have first DIDs. That's the
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: way it was reported that they they're going to force
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: it basically like this is who they want them to fight,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: This is who they're going to fight, and that's how
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: you know, that's how they're going to do it. Which
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: that's cool on the service, right, but I will say
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that's kind of picking and choosing at times. Then you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: like I wish they'd do that all the time. Then
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you know, now, of course you can't do it all
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the time, but they really made it sound like, you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: according to Dan Rafael that you know, they won't allow
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Orties to fight Spence next his own oppression Golden Boy.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: To get that fight done for March twenty eighth. There's
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: talk about Golden Boy wanting to hold the the T
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Mobile and the MGM for that date, so we'll see.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Like it sounds good, but it's also like okay, and
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: right now, Virgil Ortiz is about a plus one sixty
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: eight and this is minus two twenty. That was the
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: opening thing that I saw. So when I say underdog,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: it's not like a major underdog. Now we've heard Spence
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: may fight, may not. We've heard a bunch of rumors,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: right and we just heard Roy Jones is going to
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Dallas to train with them and talk to him, and this,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that and the other. So I don't know, it does
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: seem like he's coming back, But like I said, you'd
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: liked for him to get a fight in, you know.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: But what I was gonna say is another thing people
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: are talking about is there's no belt on the line
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: with this fight. Now, I don't think that should be
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: the rea. Like I can understand why pushing it a
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: fight or two away from now would make it bigger,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: especially if it's there, you know, if he beats Spence
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and beats Charlow or something like that, or just beat Spence.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: It is like you, as much as it doesn't sound good, right,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: it's undeniable that that it would help his career. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: that's just how boxing is, right, so, you know, but
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: there is no belt on the line, and so that
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: has some people saying, well, they can't they can't make
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: this fight without a belt. And you saw people like
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: saying the ring magazine should you know, should just have it,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: make it lineal and it would be for the ring,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: you know. It is what it is. Like. I don't
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: think this fight shouldn't happen because it doesn't have a belt.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: And if he beats Spence, I mean I haven't looked
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: at the scenarios, but would they have like a realistic
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: belt available for him, not an instrum belt but just
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: a belt belt. I don't belie at this point, but
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. We'll see how this works out.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting my hopes up for next I'm just
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: really hoping twenty twenty six. Now, I did notice Timothy
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: brad you know, Bradley kind of talks out of both
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: sides of his mouth, per usual. And I loved Bradley
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: as a fighter. A lot of people didn't. I did,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: but he made a video saying Timothy brad Or Bradley
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: says Virgil Ortis doesn't need Boots, but Boots needs Virgil. Okay,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: he tells Boots to get his resume up because Virgil
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: is the big fish at one for and he runs
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: the division. And it's like, okay, well that could have
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: been the argument for Spence and Crawford not happening. But
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: yet that's not the argument he went with. Then, so
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it is he's very biased. We all have biasedness, right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: we all are biased to an extent. But then he
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: also says, you know that like basically Boots with toy
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: with him and he'd hurt or tease and you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: so you know it is what it is. Man, I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm not gonna talk too much more about
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it right now. I just wouldn't be shocked if it
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't happen next. Don't get your hopes up. And to
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: already be publicly demanding money, now, maybe that's just a
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: ploy to say the parameters we talked about is not
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: going to be enough. You know, maybe maybe that's what
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: it is, and ultimately you know it won't it will happen.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I better. I don't know. Maybe they just want a
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: little bit more money and he's just saying that. He's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: saying tep at least ten mil just to get it
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: up more. I hope that'd be nice, but I just
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: like I said, I don't, I don't see it. But anyway,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: we do have the U Bank Ben fight. Like I said,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I thought Connor Ben superseded what I thought he was
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: gonna do. I thought he'd have success early and then
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: kind of just fade and never have much success after that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You did wonder about his durability. Although he was landing
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: clean punches, it didn't seem like they're gonna have the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: same power, especially at the weight. But Ben early on
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: was landed some really good lead landing, some really good
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: lead right hands, and early on some left hooks as well.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I did think once you bank Junior, and this kind
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: of keys into the rematch too. Once he started to
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: land his jab consistently, that's where I thought the fight changed.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: Because after the jab, which you can score throughout the round,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: throughout the fight, you know, it was followed up by
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: right hands, whether they were kind of straight or or
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: upper cut right hands, and so I thought that's gonna
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: be the key to the rematch. I thought that'd be
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the key to the fight. Mid rounds, though there was
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: some like action packed moments and two way stuff. I thought,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: you Bank Junior kind of finished strong with flurries to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the head and body. And I do think, now, maybe
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you're not going to make a living out of going
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: to the body over and over again, but for you
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Bank Junior, but I think he should do that though
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you know you're the bigger guy. You know, will wait
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: play an issue? That is something to think about obviously,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: because you know at some point your body does kind
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of just give up in a sense. So is this
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: the time you Bank pushed it too much? I mean
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: that that was the biggest why wouldn't you Bang win?
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: For me going into the first fight was wait, like
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to be okay and rehydrated enough?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: And the fact that he already did it won the fight.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be okay. But that's one where
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you may want to hold off just to make sure
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you see him on the you know, on the scale,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. Man, Sometimes when you wait too long,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you can kind of get lulled into a story or
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: a narrative in a storyline right where you're like, oh, dude,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: he had to do this to make the weight, he
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: had to do that. And there's times now it seems
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like it's spread like rapid fire, certain narratives, and sometimes
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: you can kind of fall for it. I know I have,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but I do think it's still legit enough to ask
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: a question about wait in this WORL and you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: just because I don't think it's it's that bad of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a a thing, you know, just because you know he's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: he's not at his natural weight, and like I said,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you know, at some point your body just gives up
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: and it's like, dude, I can't do this anymore. Right, So,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: going into the rematch, it is closer. Odds Ben is
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: only a plus one thirty one underdog minus one seventy
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: five for you Bank Junior, the over runner set at
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: ten and a half. The over is minus one fifty two,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the under is plus one ten But in the same breath,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: for you Bank Junior to win by Ko, it's plus
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: one sixty seven for him. To win by dec it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: plus one ninety nine for Ben to win my knockout
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: plus three thirty and decision plus four ten. So when
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I say that the odds favor a knockout here a
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: little bit, but it's not like a huge minus number
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: like it's minus a knockout is like minus one sixty
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: or you know, so you know, could you cover your
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: basis just because the decision is higher plus one ninety nine?
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Could you just cover your your your basis there by
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: the way, the yes, no question on my bucket. The
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: fight will go the distance no is one minus one
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: twenty one, and yes it's minus one fourteen. Now, so
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the size matters based off U bank and
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: the weight, like I mentioned, but the size can matter
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: the opposite way too, and maybe you know, some of
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: those clean shots do more damage this time around. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, You know, right now I'm kind of thinking,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: kind of thinking that the decision you bang Jr. Is
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the way to go plus one ninety nine. That's pretty
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: good money. And like I said, you could back it
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: up a little bit with a plus number for the stop.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: It's just just in case it happens or even yeah,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I probably do that rather than like the the minus numbers,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: whether it's the distance or over under or just the
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: minus number on him straight up the money line. But yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I think I think You Bank will win this rematch.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I give a lot of credit to Ben.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he you know, it'd be great if he pulled
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the upset or just makes it another competitive fight. But
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I do think I favoring You Bank Junior here, like
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I said, by decision, and you know, you can get
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: you Bank for plus one fifty someplace, plus one thirty eight,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: plus one forty, So if you look at the money line,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: there's others to be had. Same with Christian Bank Junior
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: at bet MGM. That's like the lowest minus number I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: see is minus one thirty five, just straight up, no
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: matter what, I think that's a good bet. So I'd say,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: if you can get it for that number minus one
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: thirty five and then the plus numbers, like I said,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: even if you bet on both the plus numbers, just
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: because the decision is either way, you're gonna make some money.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: That's the way I go. Yeah, So we also have
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: you know Catterall, I think I think he's gonna win,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: but I'm I'm looking at those plus one seventy five
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: plus one seventy four plus one eighty eight. I bet
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: you even more for a decision, Estiman, that might be
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: the upset. In fact, I'm gonna call it, but I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: haven't bet on it yet, but I'm kind of looking
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: at it like, hmmm, that might be the upset. I
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: think Adam Azine is gonna take care of Scobie, but
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll he'll get him a good fight.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: Vargas is on the card. Torres Junior is on a
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: card this weekend. This is kind of mixing both cards
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that I'm talking about, by the way, because we do
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: have the top rank card as well, and you know,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: like Rafael Spinoza taking on Kakai. Guy's like a solid guy. Okay,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: guy's a solid guy, you know, No, he is though.
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: He's a good fighter, but I just don't think he's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: gonna win this fight. I'm just hoping for entertainment, to
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. We do have a Delgado who's
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a pretty clear favorite, although at a plus three thirty
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: plus three seventy five, you know, Venezuela, I think he's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: for that number. I would call a little bit of
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a live number there. Gilly Davis is another competitive fight
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: on paper, I would have to say, so, yeah, so
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: you basically have, you know, on well to his own
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: pay per view. That's where obviously the Connor ben fight is.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: It's sixty dollars here, right, fifty nine ninety nine, and
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: that Espinoza guy fight can be found in the top
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: Ring Classics on a variety of different you know platforms,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: and then ESPN Deportes has a Fight Night on Friday
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: as well. But yeah, I'm just hoping for, like, you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: a good weekend, solid fights, and I really hope that
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: this rematch lives up to it, you know. Jim Carross
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: put out a poll what's your favorite underdog pick? I
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: picked the Catterall fight getting getting Upset, but not many
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: people had voted by at that time, and it was
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: pretty much even with all three. He also said, because
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it was Gilly and Davis and then none favorites were
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: all win was another category along with ben U Bank.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: But it's kind of hard to tell because I didn't
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I should maybe check back that, Okay, So here, so
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Sabria Mattias and Dalton Smith is a good fight, a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: really good fight for Dalton Smith where he's at in
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: his career. Excuse me. Anytime a guy like Sabria Mattias
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: can as a veteran you know that keeps bouncing back,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he'll take some setbacks. He bounced back. This would be
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: another one that would extend his career with the win. Right.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: So it's a good fight, like I said, especially for
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Dalton Smith. I think it's a really good test. But
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: it's on pay per view and it's it's a card
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that would be according to Carlos Lenares, promoted by Icon Plus,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: a new promotional company created by Jennifer Merritt Marin, and
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: they'll also promote with top rank for xanders aias next fight.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: But you know, great fight, man, I like to fight
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a lot, but fifty and it's also on pay perview
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: dot com fifty four ninety nine for it. Though, it
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: just kills it, dude, it just completely kills it. I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: just don't I just don't get it, man, I just
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: don't get it. You know, it's it's not a fight
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: like And also I'm not what kind of pay per
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: view undercard are they going to have, you know, hopefully
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: it's like two contenders going at it in legit fights
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: or maybe a prospect getting a real test. You know,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I'll hold my thoughts on the undercard until I see it.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: But given that this thing's not really gonna do much
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: on pay per view, how how much are they really
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: gonna invest in the undercard that I don't know? So
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: it's it is disappointing. I saw this someone Jim posted,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: you know, and this is the favorite Vegas knows. The
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the let's make the best fights catchphrase goes out the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: window when they feel like their guy is the underdog.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: This is why we hear seven figure aero Spence in
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: favorable terms immediately after the fight. Yeah, that definitely has
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: something to do with it. Adrian del Gatto great follow
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: Adrian d eight nine two six. I've been impressed with
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Ortiz's growth versus Botchuk, madr mav Lubin. He's learning to
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: stay composed, pace, his aggression definitely steady pressure would calculated
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: burst versus a NonStop intensity. The jab speed, sharp punch
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: placement makes him one of the best at ye. He's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: he has come around man. I also saw this report
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: from Caviel's homecoming fight January twentieth, or sorry, January tenth.
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: They say it's it's almost sold out twelve thousand, so
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: that's pretty hopefully the opponent puts up a good fight.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: But so here's Dougie Fisher about Breadman's thoughts. When he
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: was talking about you know, the Ring magazine and the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: belt and all that type of thing for that you know,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Boots or tease fight, he said, I saw Breadman posting
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that the Ring Magazine championship should be on the line,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and he heard Mannix bring it up on the podcast.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: He said, I think Boots is worthy of the ring belt.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: He was that he was a champ at forty seven,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: but he's not proven at fifty four. That happens versus Ortiz.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And also I saw this from Bunch Boxing. Ryan Garcia
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: and Famio have until fan Meo having until July third,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six to set a lawsuit or a failed
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: bout for their failed bout with and Poeo if the
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: settlement has not reached jury trials begin September twenty first.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: It's kinda kind of interesting. Oh and also I did
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: see that Moses Patama Patamo now he's got a fight signed. Okay,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: it's in January. Hopefully it says exclusively on to his own.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I hope it's just on his own because they always
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: say exclusively on his OWNE it's a pay per view,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: But let's hope he's taken on Franklin, Jermaine Franklin, and honestly,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: like it seems like a good guy to get rounds with.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: You know, I think the fact that you know, he
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: went the distance with AJ and some others. I believe
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: what Dillion White like. I think this is probably a
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: good opponent for him, you know, I like it for
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: where he's at, you know, I like it, and then
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you know Hutchinson and Taylor that should be pretty good.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I do. I think that's a good fight
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: for him, just to get the rounds. I don't see
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: him losing the fight or anything like that, or it's
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a big threat or anything like that. I saw Ortiz,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: Dan and Ortiz agent kind of going back and forth
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and basically, you know, Dan said, why do they have
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to send an offer? Golden Boy can do the same
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: or better you're at you can make your deal with
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Golden Boy in his own and they do the same.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: So it is true, like I was saying, like, if
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you're the A side, why don't you make the offer.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Then if you're talking about ten million, Alec talks boxing.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Someone's screenshot of this for me. Anyone's saying virtual Spenser
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: Virgil is a better fight than Boots, I'm convinced is
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: living in the past. Boots versus Virgil is bigger and
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: more competitive. Yeah competitive, Yeah sure, But when you say bigger,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: that's where you're wrong. You know. He goes on to
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: say Spencer's shot inactive and out of his prime. Yep,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: he poses no threat to either one of them. But
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: when you say it's bigger, the Spence Virgil fights bigger, Dude, Like,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I want to see these two guys go at it
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: in the primes. But I'm not gonna lie about shit.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's not bigger than that.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: So it's just not you know, you can say whatever
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: you want, and you can sit there and mean it
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: and all that, but you know it's just not true.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: The WBA granted Pool of an exception. Okay, so they're
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: going to allow him to defend his regular title against
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Marat GASIV to say Er twelve rather than face Moses next. Okay,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: so the winner of that fight, Pool Levin Gasev must
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: face must face him next. The pair will have until
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: February ninth to reach a deal where the fight will
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: go to Purspin's fifty to fifty split, So that's his
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: two next fights that they already have lined up. You
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: know that that seems like a smart thing to do.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I sometimes I see some shit where it's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: like like Rick Ramos, right when it comes to this
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Boots Ortiz, he says two point five mil for Boots
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: versus Ortiz. One point five is is the right price
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: unless Turkey gets involved, then it's four for Boots and
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: two four tees. And it's like, so so he Ortiz
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: is gonna get the same thing Stanionis got because I
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: remember seeing reports anyway that that's what he got, so
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the one point five. So it's just kind of like okay, dude.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like I said, I just hope this fight happens, man,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: That's all I really care about. Just just get it
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: over the line in twenty twenty six. I think I'm
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: gonna kind of land the ship right there. Thanks for listening.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Hope you guys have a good week and hopefully just
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: you know, we have a good, good fight week and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: we got a great fight. Guard coming up next week.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Really excited about that. Hopefully John will be on the
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: next show so we can talk about that, and I'm
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: really looking forward to that card. There's some interesting fights
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: on it. Anyway, I'm gonna get out here enjoy the fights.