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Is there something in the water? | Maintaining Frame 177 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Brian, and how at Alison whose camera's not
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  Speaker 2: All right? Hello, yes, hi, I think we had a
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  Speaker 2: in the night, voidcat may have dumped my power bar,
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  Speaker 2: was two were responsible not to check for cat based
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  Speaker 2: Potentially you could also blame voidcat. You might hear her
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  Speaker 2: beaking in the background. Taking responsibility. Yeah, yeah, she's she's
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  Speaker 2: better than a human woman.
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  Speaker 1: At least that cat takes responsibility.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no shit, okay, let's uh so, speaking of responsibility,
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  Speaker 2: women's responsibility. Let's dive back into that scandal with the
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  Speaker 2: migrants or the migrantman in the UK and the because
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  Speaker 2: if you guys don't know, there was an alleged attack
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  Speaker 2: by a migrant man. This is this is the rumor
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  Speaker 2: that's been floating around un alleged and I say alleged
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  Speaker 2: because the story has changed. An alleged attack by a
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  Speaker 2: migrantman on three Scottish girls that left one in the hospital,
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  Speaker 2: and the migrants in question who were involved weren't jailed.
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  Speaker 2: So there's some complexity there and some anger, you know,
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  Speaker 2: put potentially justified anger considering that there is a separate
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  Speaker 2: policy dealing with migrants in the UK versus the native population,
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  Speaker 2: shall we say. And I've been watching this and someone
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  Speaker 2: tweeted out a comic about the situation because essentially what
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  Speaker 2: happened was allegedly the migrant attacked this male migrant who
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  Speaker 2: had been following the Scottish girls attacked them, and then
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  Speaker 2: one of the Scottish girls brandish weapons in order to
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  Speaker 2: protect herself. And then there was a comic that came
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  Speaker 2: out in which they demonstrated this girl brandishing weapons and saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: where are the men of the UK there are no
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  Speaker 2: men left, and Brian took some issue with that and
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  Speaker 2: tweeted it. That tweet became a little bit viral. It
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  Speaker 2: got attention from Andrew Wilson, who also sort of challenged
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  Speaker 2: the notion bring and shared it, challenged the notion that
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  Speaker 2: this is men's fault, and so we're going to delve
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  Speaker 2: into it. Is this men's fault? Is it men's fault?
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  Speaker 2: The migrant situation in the UK? Is it men's fault?
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  Speaker 2: And should men put their lives in danger to fix it?
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  Speaker 2: Not just their lives and their reputations, their futures because
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  Speaker 2: you know, altercations between native Britainers and and the migrant
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  Speaker 2: men and women generally do not go in the favor
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  Speaker 2: of the Britoners. You know, hate crimes, going to jail
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  Speaker 2: for fifty years, that kind of thing. So let's we're
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  Speaker 2: going to delve into it, and we're going to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the updates on the story and what may have
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  Speaker 2: actually happened. So buckle in, this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the hill that we die on, just like you know,
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  Speaker 2: twenty or ten years ago, Cologne was the hill that
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  Speaker 2: we died on, or the hill that I died on
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  Speaker 2: Brian didn't die on that hill. Maybe that's why we're
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  Speaker 2: still alive. It's Brian and me, but I'm a ghost
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  Speaker 2: or a revenant or maybe a zombie.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently, Andrew was pretty like. He made a post saying
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  Speaker 1: that he's like, doesn't like posting on X anymore because
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  Speaker 1: people are always essentially giving the most bad faith interpretation
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  Speaker 1: of everything he says through every post to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how they can frame him as a misogynist. And all
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  Speaker 1: all I said was first time, So welcome to the club.
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  Speaker 1: I got kicked off of X when it was called
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  Speaker 1: Twitter in twenty seventeen, So yeah, that's that's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: You're just gonna have to like grow a thicker skin.
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's not fun. It's not fine.
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  Speaker 2: No, you just yeah, you just got to deal with that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I remember when, and interestingly enough, I think
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  Speaker 2: I was vindicated by this. One Memorial Day, like twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 2: I tweeted out that nobody's recognizing that the majority of
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  Speaker 2: deaths in war are men, and if we don't recognize
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  Speaker 2: men's sacrifices for society, we're gonna lose it. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: lose that society and June so Shuan had misinterpreted my
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  Speaker 2: tweet thought I was just calling out AOC when I
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  Speaker 2: was calling out multiple women, including conservative women, who failed
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  Speaker 2: to recognize this fact. And yeah, so she eventually realized
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  Speaker 2: what I had been saying, but not before the flying
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  Speaker 2: monkeys had jumped all over that tweet. And yet, in hindsight,
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody can agree that twenty nineteen was sort
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  Speaker 2: of the last year that we had anything resembling a
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  Speaker 2: normal society, a normally functioning society, and now we have
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  Speaker 2: this absolute mess everywhere. So once again I think I
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  Speaker 2: predicted something. I don't think I did. I did predict something,
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  Speaker 2: all right, so let's get into it. Let's do some
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  Speaker 2: more predictions, shall we.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta just dig through my profile here till I
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  Speaker 1: find it. Mm hmm, okay, let's see. I mean it's
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  Speaker 2: Mm. Yeah. Well, I mean it was a very it
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  Speaker 2: was a very pointed observation that it didn't take long
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  Speaker 2: for everybody to start blaming men, which is really funny
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  Speaker 2: because most even in the alleged incident.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I didn't even know what all the
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  Speaker 1: details of the incident were yet. All I saw was
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  Speaker 1: the viral video of the girl and when she pulled
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  Speaker 1: out the dagger, the knife and the axe. I was
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  Speaker 1: I was taken aback because it was like, holy shit,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like that's badass. But I don't know the context.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew I could tell she was scared,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the extent of it. And so at first,
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  Speaker 1: and I still maintained that like don't have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with the girl at all, Like not at all. I
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  Speaker 1: just saw that and I shared it. In fact, I
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  Speaker 1: think there was a meme of her as brave heart
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  Speaker 1: because he's Scottish. I thought it was funny, I shared
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  Speaker 1: the meme. I thought it was pretty badass that she
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  Speaker 1: was standing up for herself. At least that was the
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  Speaker 1: perception I had. And then the male, the man blaming,
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  Speaker 1: came in and and the thing is it was from
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  Speaker 1: people who I normally, you know, like I didn't expect
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  Speaker 1: them to be like red piled on this at all.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm shocked or hurt by it.
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  Speaker 1: But this s k uh car sks cartoon guy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: normally makes pretty decent cartoons. Also, George Alexopolis made one
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  Speaker 1: as well, and I also responded to that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I said, wow, that went to blame men really fucking quick.
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  Speaker 1: And because it did, because it had like we didn't
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  Speaker 1: know anything about what had happened, but for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: this could only be because the men aren't stepping up
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  Speaker 1: to protect the Scottish girls. That's the only explanation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we could explore some other possible explanations, like let's
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  Speaker 2: look at the tweet of that woman that I send
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  Speaker 2: out our oh no, I.
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  Speaker 1: Shared, I shared that one too. Hold on a second,
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  Speaker 1: hol Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, let's let's find that the tweet of the woman
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  Speaker 2: who says that she's steel safer with migrant men then
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  Speaker 2: than far right men than the men and what she
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  Speaker 2: means by far right is the men who say that
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  Speaker 2: they don't want migrant men in their country.
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  Speaker 1: Is revolution Bot? Is this the one? This might be
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  Speaker 1: a different person, but yeah, revolution Bot says, hello, a
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  Speaker 1: woman here. I would just like to say, I would
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  Speaker 1: rather stand in a room full of immigrants than stand
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  Speaker 1: in a room with one single reform UK and P.
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  Speaker 1: So it's actually a different This is a different person
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  Speaker 1: with a different post.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also representing it's the same.
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  Speaker 1: Well, my point is it's the same message. This is
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  Speaker 1: actually two different women. Evie says, as a woman, I'm
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  Speaker 1: more scared to walk the street because of aggress far
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  Speaker 1: right men that use immigrants to cover up their own
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  Speaker 1: predatory behavior than I am anyone else. So and the
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  Speaker 1: thing that I found funny about that, the reason why
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  Speaker 1: I shared it is I basically shared it and I said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Wig Natce, this is your challenge which I've been telling
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  Speaker 1: like the you know, supposed the LARPing white nationalists on
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  Speaker 1: X that are always talking about protecting their women and
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  Speaker 1: they're always saying, you know that we need to like unify. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: but the women are your biggest obstacle. I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 1: that's just the truth. And you're never gonna You're never
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  Speaker 1: gonna fix this problem. You're never gonna fix this problem
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  Speaker 1: unless you do something about that situation. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that what that ultimately means is that they're like pretend
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  Speaker 1: ideology of like, you know, white nationalism is an absolute
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  Speaker 1: pipe dream because they can't have it with with their women.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not gonna happen, right, So I think it's
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  Speaker 1: silly and they don't want to achnology. That's why they
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  Speaker 1: get angry when you point it out. You say, sorry, guys,
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  Speaker 1: but you're you, You're just you're living in dreamland. Like
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  Speaker 1: you think that your women will go along with this.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to so anyway, I know if.
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  Speaker 2: You want, Yeah, I mean, like, what we're seeing is
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  Speaker 2: a fight between two groups of women, one of whom
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  Speaker 2: is constructing a situation in which native born uh Men
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  Speaker 2: from the UK. Uk Men have to face severe legal
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  Speaker 2: penalties for in any way interacting negatively with the victim class,
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  Speaker 2: which is migrant individuals. So they can't like UK men
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  Speaker 2: can't even speak out against this without going to jail, right,
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  Speaker 2: much less wade into battle against them. So we have
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  Speaker 2: this one group of women is championing the construction of
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  Speaker 2: legal protections for migrants. The other group of women is
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  Speaker 2: asking where are the men to fight the migrants for
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  Speaker 2: our honor? And it's like, well, you are reflection, And
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  Speaker 2: then the the the liberal women who want to embrace
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  Speaker 2: the migrants say well, you know, these men are just
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  Speaker 2: using our native men, are just using the migrants as
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  Speaker 2: a shield for their own bad behavior. And it's like,
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  Speaker 2: at no point does anybody stop and say, Okay, why
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  Speaker 2: are we blaming men for all this? Like, why are
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  Speaker 2: we blaming men for one group of women not just
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  Speaker 2: making it physically dangerous for men to intercede on the
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  Speaker 2: behalf of British women, UK women if they get into
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  Speaker 2: an altercation with migrantmn but to defend themselves and women
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  Speaker 2: like one half is making it not just physically dangerous
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  Speaker 2: but also legally dangerous. I mean, these men are going
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  Speaker 2: to throw their lives away. And once you've jailed your
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  Speaker 2: entire population of native UK men, what happens next? Do
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  Speaker 2: you blame them more? You know, like and nobody is
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  Speaker 2: take Nobody is pointing out that women bear some serious
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  Speaker 2: blame in all of this scenario. They have constructed this
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  Speaker 2: clown show on both sides, right and the ones.
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  Speaker 1: Some people or some of these guys will argue that
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  Speaker 1: it's like this top down thing that comes from these elites,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, they come and they have many different names,
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  Speaker 1: but in my opinion, none of that matters. If women
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  Speaker 1: vote for it, then that's what we're getting. So you
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  Speaker 1: can blame the elites if you want to, but ultimately
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  Speaker 1: it was democracy that brought that in. So you have
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  Speaker 1: to wonder who's voting for this shit, and it is
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  Speaker 1: women and they are exploitable by these elites. So like
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  Speaker 1: you're pointing, again, you're angry at the wrong people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody wants to hear this message. Everybody wants
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  Speaker 2: to go to battle with this nonsense. But the funny
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  Speaker 2: thing is is that the conservative women are caping and
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna call them conservative because they self identify as
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  Speaker 2: that or far right away. I mean, they don't self
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  Speaker 2: identify as far right, that's what the left calls them.
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  Speaker 2: They're caping for the women who are engaging in justifying
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  Speaker 2: bringing the migrants in and giving them legal protections and
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  Speaker 2: forcing greater legal consequences on the native men if they
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  Speaker 2: do anything about their violence. All right, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: can't bear what, they can't have weapons, they can't defend.
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  Speaker 2: The self defense is no go like. All of this
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  Speaker 2: stuff is put in place by liberal women. The conservative women.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of pointing to their sisters and saying, hey, why
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  Speaker 2: don't you not hamstring are men, they point to the
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  Speaker 2: men and say, hey, this is your fault. Well, that
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  Speaker 2: means you are caping. You are actually obscucating, obscupate, ob
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  Speaker 2: You are giving cover to the activities of these liberal
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  Speaker 2: women making it impossible to oppose this. The more you
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  Speaker 2: blame men conservative women, the more this problem gets. It's
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  Speaker 2: worse because it's not men that's making it impossible for
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  Speaker 2: anybody to defend anybody. But then then then the other
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  Speaker 2: thing is that we find out that the narrative of
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  Speaker 2: this entire situation is even worse. Right, let's look at
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  Speaker 2: let's look at the actual the actual testimony from.
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  Speaker 1: Are you talking about the aesthetica post?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what the title I want to start with.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke with the mom of one of the girls okay.
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  Speaker 2: I spoke with the mom of one of the girls.
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  Speaker 1: I spoke with This is from Aesthetica at ink Aesthetics,
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  Speaker 1: and she writes, I spoke with the mom of one
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  Speaker 1: of the girls, Maya, and got the entire story that
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  Speaker 1: the media is covering up and lying about. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: the reporting got the names of the girls mixed up.
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  Speaker 1: There were three girls who were there who were accosted
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  Speaker 1: and attacked by the migrants. Lola. Lola is the hero
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  Speaker 1: from the video. She's the one with the acts defending
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  Speaker 1: her sister from the migrant attackers. Ruby, low older sister,
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  Speaker 1: was also attacked and hospitalized Maya, Ruby's best friend who
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  Speaker 1: was with them and went to call the police after
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  Speaker 1: Ruby was attacked by the migrants. Here's the summary of
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  Speaker 1: what happened from Maya's mother. Yes, so, what happened was
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  Speaker 1: the girls were just out walking and the man in
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  Speaker 1: the picture made comments to Lola, the younger girl, calling
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  Speaker 1: her sexy and other sexual remarks. Then the girl started
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  Speaker 1: to tell this man to leave them alone and stop
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  Speaker 1: following them and making sexual remarks to them. After that,
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  Speaker 1: the man's sister, also in the picture, came around the
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  Speaker 1: corner and physically attacked Ruby, the older sister. She grabbed
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  Speaker 1: her hair, dragged her to the floor, started to punch her.
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  Speaker 1: Then both the man and the woman were kicking her
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  Speaker 1: in the head while she was on the floor. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, my daughter maya called the police. So my
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  Speaker 1: daughter's account after that is all a bit blurry, But
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  Speaker 1: that is when Lola had the weapons. She pulled them
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  Speaker 1: out to protect Ruby. After that, the man came back
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  Speaker 1: at Lola, recording her, making sure she showed the weapons
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  Speaker 1: to the case, and antagonizing her. Ruby was hospitalized after
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  Speaker 1: the attack with a severe concussion, a tennis ball sized
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  Speaker 1: lump to the back of her head, as well as
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  Speaker 1: lots of bruises. I'm working with them to get a
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  Speaker 1: gifts and go set up. We'll report back when it's live.
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  Speaker 1: This is it right here, I guess. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't want to wait, we set up a
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  Speaker 1: coin that generates royalties. Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So a little bit suspicious because you know,
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  Speaker 2: suddenly there's a bigcoin on this issue or a.
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  Speaker 1: Coin that Yeah, a little bit weird, Yeah, a little weird.
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  Speaker 2: So this is one of the narratives. But let's assume
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  Speaker 2: that I actually haven't seen any If you guys have
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  Speaker 2: seen any other testimony about this situation, please send it through.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: You can just direct us to it, or send it
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  Speaker 2: to the Twitter account, send it to Brian's Twitter account,
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: since some I'm not on the Twitter account. And also
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  Speaker 2: I just want to point out why are we not
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  Speaker 2: streaming online on X? Like? Why is it on X? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Go down the go down the screen a bit because usually.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let me just go to the page.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just go to the page and stream. Go down
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  Speaker 2: a bit. We're dealing with another freaking I know. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: X has decided to live.
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  Speaker 1: It's live, Okay, all right, and I'll put a comment in.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I can actually see it. I can't actually see.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: It, but I can't actually see it.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: No, it's like roll scroll down on the Twitter.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Post on which Twitter post?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: The Twitter post aesthetica.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, where're you going to go?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah? See that? Do you see that? There's no thing
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: popping up showing us on the side?
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Oh show more?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, I guess we're not. We're not. We're not live.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We're not.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: We don't have enough viewers to actually Oh.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're saying that we should be as big as
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: News Max.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Charlie, No, God no, because we don't we we This
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: is where emotion goes to die, and everybody wants to think,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: think emotionally about these issues. So this is a testimony.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: This is the only testimony so far that I've found.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: But what I want to point out is that according
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: to this testimony, the violence was initiated by a migrant woman.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: What the heck is a is a hypothetical man supposed
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: to do British UK man supposed to do in this instance,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: what is he supposed to do? Well, you go after
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Fatima and anything.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Is UK men have been talking about this problem for years,
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: like years and years, and they were called racist, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: they were called Islamophobic, and they were called bigoted and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: far right and all this other stuff for years. So
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: like the argument where are the men is absolutely retarded.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Even Goodfella, who made a big, long video about it,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: was like, yes, this is happening, and I said something before,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: and here we are so like you know, like, well,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you want from me. And the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: other thing is if there were men, Like even when
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I thought it was just you know, when all I
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: knew was that there was a man, because that's all
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I had based on the video. Even if it was
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: true that there was a man that was preying on
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: this woman, why would you think that he would do
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it with other men around. Yeah, Like, I know men
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: would have stepped in if they were there, most likely
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: not because I think they have an obligation to, just
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: because I know that that's likely what men would do.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: But I also know that if somebody wants to pray
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: on someone, they're not going to do it when there's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: someone around that could stop them. They're gonna do it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: when it doesn't look like that's the case. There was
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: like a boy in the shot, but I'm pretty sure
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: they're not asking that he become like a martyr. So yeah,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: it's just kind of stupid, Like it, all of it
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is just emotional, and it's not just that, but it's
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's its own kind of virtue signaling, you know, Like
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, are you a real man? It's time to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: virtue signal about how manly you are, And you gotta
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: at least sit there and say this is what I
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: would have done if I was there. But that's a nothing.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: That's like the women who are like, you know, talking
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: like on TikTok that are talking about what they're gonna
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: do with like I don't know to like the the
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: far right, Maga crowd or whatever. We're gonna take revenge.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: We're gonna go after them. Like you're not gonna do anything.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: You just want your friends to know how you feel
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: about it so that they like you more. And this
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is the same thing you have. There are people who
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: just want to tell you that, look, I'm a good
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: man because like this offends me and it upsets me,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: and I hope you all see that that I'm like
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: one of those caring people that doesn't like want women
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: girls and women be hurt. So do you guys see it?
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: You guys see it? Cool? Or Okay, So we're on
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the same team now, all right, great, great, that's what
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they do. It's so it's Lamey's it's lame.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: So yes, But I'm just I'm just pointing out, well,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: first of all, how like you said, how do we
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: know this didn't take place in a man desert? And
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: apparently another commentator pointed out that a lot of these
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: criminal migrants actually target communities where there are no fathers, yes,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: because it's easier to get in there and to engage
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in these predatory behaviors. Right, And incidentally, this is something
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: that nobody's talking about. At least twenty five percent of
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the members of the grooming gangs are female migrants, and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: at least twenty five percent of the victims are boys.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody's talking about that, And you've got to know that's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: got to be higher because nobody talks about that's a baseline.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: That is the minimum of what's going on. Right, So
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: this is not they're trying to make this man versus
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: women with men being blaming men. Both sides blaming men,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: one side saying that UK men are using alleging that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: migrants are male, migrants are more sexually violent in order
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: to hide their own crimes, and the other side saying
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: that UK men aren't step up and protecting their women
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: from the sexual violence of migrants. Can you can you
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: imagine trying to navigate yourself through this as a young
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: man without losing your mind? Like seriously, One side saying, oh,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: if you if you talk about the sexual violence of
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: of migrant men, then you are part of rape grape culture.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: You are part of a horrible system of exploiting and
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: destroying women. And making them feel bad, you know, and
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: using your your penis to club them to death like
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: baby seals. Right, that's what they're saying to you came
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: in if they bring up this problem, right, And the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: other side is saying, well, why aren't you came in
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: doing anything about this because they'll be jailed. And then
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: the other thing is you this might have taken place.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: The migrants who are criminal, they know where to go.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: They go to the places without fathers. Yeah, they do
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: their activities in the places without fathers. And you, so
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: you have constructed these hot beds like these, these little
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: enclaves of prey for criminal migrants because of your policies
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: that fathers are a danger to their children and their mothers,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and your welfare policies. This is what you've done. So
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you've kicked the men out. And then you say, well
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: where are the men? You kick them out and no offense.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: But the conservatives are just as implicated with using these
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: narratives of domestic violence and sexual assault kick fathers out
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: of their homes as the liberals. They both agree at
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: least this, these types of conservatives, they both agree that
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: men are to blame and men are dangerous, right, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: it's it's like, it's just a swamp of nonsense. And
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I don't see how young men can navigate this in
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: any intelligible way. And nobody cares about them but us,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: about what this message is saying to them, but us.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: So you kick young men out, you tell them they're unwanted.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You suddenly, oh, surprise, pikachu face, young men are actually
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: actually really important to the functioning of society. You import
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: migrant men, and you know what you're actually importing here.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: You're actually importing men of who are valued or can
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: develop value. They can earn something, get a wife in
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: their own cultures, in their own countries. So you are
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: actually importing young men who are valued, working age young
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: men who are valued by their own culture or can
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: develop value, like I mean, maybe they're not valued as
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: they are, but they can develop value by gaining money,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: which is something that doesn't happen for native born Britons
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: and native born UK boys anymore, because remember, women can
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: earn their own way, so his money is irrelevant. He's
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: not earning value anymore. In fact, he's participating in a
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: discriminatory system against women who right So native born boys
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: have absolutely no way to earn any kind of social
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: value in the system that you set up. So you're
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: importing boys and young men who are born in a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: system where they can still develop values through some kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: of action, because they will actually do that action and
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that work, and surprise, surprise, you actually need these things
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: to happen in order to maintain society. Did I go
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: too far into the weeds? Do you understand what I'm saying?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Does it? Yeah? They're they're importing motivated boys. That's what
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: they're doing. They're importing motivated boys, uh, and met young men,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and they are motivated because there are there is still
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: a clear path forward to becoming valued in those cultures
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: for men because they are traditional. So this is entirely
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the fault. It's not the fault of the elites. The
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: elites will just give you. The elites will just grab
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: whatever you give them. Let's be honest. The elites are
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: fucking dumb.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: If you don't choose to go along with it as
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what you're saying, Well, not.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Just that you choose to be go, you don't create
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: the preconditions that enable it. Right. The elites are a
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: bunch of inbred schmos. Okay, they're too stupid to actually
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: orchestrate this. They simply grab whatever fruits we give them,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: and we gave them this fruit, and that is that
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: is definitely a message that people don't want to hear
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: because it's easier to blame a shadowy elite than how
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you treat your boys, how you treat your girls, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: whether or not you have adhered to at least the
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: most sensible traditional practices that got you where you are. Like, no, no,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: you don't get to hide behind the elites. These are
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: these are all these are the consequences of our own decisions.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: So all I can say, all right, and now there's
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: a new there's a new message that I heard. Actually,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I wanted to speak to the men actually going in
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and protecting I don't know if you saw this tweet,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: but there was a there was an altercation in the subway.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Did you see this one?
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Uh? Did you give me the link to that? Already? Else?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Guy and the other guy.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: If you look at my if you look at my
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Twitter history, it should be there. You just look at
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: my coach. It's basically in a subway. It's a crowd
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: on the subway stairs going bonkers. But while you're looking
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: for that I'm going to give you an update. So
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: another thing that's floating around is that the the cops
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: actually reviewed the CTV footage and they didn't find that
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: the migrant couple did anything, So that's why they weren't arrested.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. You'd have to
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: confirm all of this. They weren't arrested because they didn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: see The cops didn't see anything that they did wrong
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: in the CTV. The CTV's footage, which is all all
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: over Britain, like they have cameras up each other, up
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: each other's asses in the UK. Yeah, and they didn't
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: see what they didn't see that they did anything wrong,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: so they weren't arrested. The girl was arrested because she
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: was brandishing weapons and it's the UK right. She'd also
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: be arrested in Canada for that. So that's another thing
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: that I've heard that happened. But the overall point is,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: even if you go with the testimony of the people involved,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: If this is indeed testimony the people involved, a woman
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: instigated the violence, right, what are men are supposed to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: do in that instance? I mean, this is even worse
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: than going after a migrant man. Do you realize that
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: if he had, I don't know, slapped Fatima in this situation,
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: if there would be Fatima watch it walks everywhere the
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: UK would the UK liberalists that would erupt into more laws,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: more hate speech laws, more anti misogyny laws, more screwing
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: down the shackles on UK men, more of that. So
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it's like one side is demanding that men step up,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: and the other side is punishing them more and more
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: and more and more for doing so right until they
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: wanted them to stop completely. So one side says step up,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and the other side kicks the man in the knees,
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: breaks his knees with a freaking baseball bat to stop
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: him from stepping up. Step up, whack, step up, whack,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: step up, whack like this is insanity, sort your shit out.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: And this is women. This is two groups of women.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Step up, men, or you're not a real man. Other
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: group of women whack. Kneel down, or you're not a
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: real man. Step up if you're not a real man.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Kneel down. Are you're not a real man? Step up
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that you're not a real man? Meeel down if you're
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: not a real man. Like and then what do men
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: do lose, They just silently quit most of them. Some
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: of them enjoy the chaos. The narcissists will be whatever
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: you want them to be in that moment in order
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to get pussed like what a fuck. And it's because
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: this there's a fracture between these two groups of women
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and their expectations and the two between the two groups
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of women and their expectations, men are being destroyed. Oh
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: good grief.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: All right, what where I can't find the thing you're
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: you're telling me? You got to send me the subway.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I don't see it on your ass.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'll can try to access X.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Are you to ina?
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not able to log in?
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, wait, well we could look at something else
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: in the meantime, maybe was it was it something that
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: you reposted or was it something that you replied to?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Do you remember.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: It was something I reposted? So it's an actual post.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Oh god, Natty's still tweeting at me.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she tweeted at me too. You haven't seen that.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: It's very uncharitable.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, so apparently your entire worldview is based on
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the hatred of Mary Magdalen or Mary Mother of God.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Virgin Mary I actually, well no, I mean,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: ginocentrism is supposedly a resentment towards the virgin Mary, because
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: every woman is the virgin Mary. I guess I don't know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I'm done trying to like explain.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I can figure is is
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: that she just wants to divide me. She wants me
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: to quit. She doesn't want me to do this job.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: That's really what it is. She called me a grifter,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: So I guess I'm a grip. Worst grift ever, by
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the way, worst grift ever. Speaking of if I wanted
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a grift, i'd be a feminist. I'd be making money
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: hand over fist to Yeah, especially if I like have
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like the I you know, I woke up and realized
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: the error of my ways as an m RA, like
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: you know, Hero's journey path, I'd be so I'd be
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: doing so good. But no, I'm I'm a grifter. This
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: is all a grift, guys, I don't know, if you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: based on the resentment of the theled tokos. Yeah, so
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just like whatever, I don't care.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that's that's pretty I've been called
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: a grifter ever. Since I started.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we've been called griffore my actual grifters. Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: yeah for real, like like there would like did you
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: see like the report that came out where all these
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like feminist influencers are getting paid.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: By like you know, I thought we could cover it
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: since we uh could segue quite nicely into it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Yeah it up.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Bring that up. Let's take a look, and I could
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: add my two Yeah sure, I'm still trying to given
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: that one video, but it's.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: About the Elon Musk thing. I actually have something else too, but.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, we've got two things on that. Speaking of
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: speaking of grafters, ha ha, let's go take ah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: This is from the account which I love Tom's sole quotes,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: and it's Elon Musk. One of the biggest scam fraud
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: hauls we've uncovered, which is really crazy, is that the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: government can give money to a so called nonprofit with
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: very few controls.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Of course, and I've actually looked into the financials of nonprofits,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: specifically feminist nonprofits, and I found something really interesting. So
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: the way that they're set up is they they actually
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: they actually incorporate in a state where the rules for
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: nonprofits is that you only have to spend five percent
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: on the actual issue that you advocate for. And this
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: is interpreted very liberally. So, for example, there's one feminist
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: nonprofit that has uh skin, has about maybe let's say
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: five million in income, and they spend five percent of
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: that five million, So about two hundred and fifty thout. No, wait,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: five percent of five million and five hundred yeah, two
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: hundred fifty thousand operate. No, actually, sorry, let me go
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: down a little bit because I'm not getting my numbers right.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: It's about about two million that they spend on on total.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: That's their income, that's their budget for the year, and
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they spend about one hundred thousand operating a woman's shelter. Okay,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: so they need one million, nine hundred thousand dollars to
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: oversee one hundred thousand dollars worth of expenses. That's how
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: you need to think about it. Okay, that is insane.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: But where does the rest of the money go. Well,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: the rest of the money goes to the CEO's salary
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and also the board members. What does that mean. It
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: means that if you're on a board of a feminist
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: NGO and they usually have like ten fifteen people on
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: their boards, you will get a anything under like fifty thousand.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: It's probably increased since then, but fifty thousand is the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: maximum that you can get without having to declare this
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: to the governing board of NGOs. So you can get
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a nice little fat kickback forty forty five forty nine
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: thousand for half an hour work a month. But here's
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the kicker. You don't just sit on the board of
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: one feminist ngo. You sit on the board of many.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: This is what I found because I would do a
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: search on the names and they would pop up on
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: other ngo boards. So once you're sitting on like I
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: don't know, ten feminist ngo boards, which is like five
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: hours of work a month, half hour zoom call every
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: couple days, right, you are getting half a million dollars.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: So these NGOs are basically systems to distribute funds to
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: feminist board members so that they can all be freaking
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: millionaires under the radar. And of course Elon Musk has
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: found that there are is no oversight for there's no
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: oversight for government, the government giving money to these NGOs,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: none whatsoever. So you're talking about a grift, right, Okay,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Now me and Brian put in pro Well, I know,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I for sure do, but I'm pretty sure Brian does
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: as well. A full week's worth of work, right, organizing, researching, streaming,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: dealing with the community, and all the chaos that that
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: comes from that, right, setting up, you know, setting up
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: all the logistical stuff that goes in the background. So
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: this is a lot of work, and we aren't getting
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: you know, forty thousand dollars a year for every half
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: hour a month of work we do. Let's see what
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that would would? Would would? Uh? And they call us scrifters.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: That's what's the stud And you know why they do that,
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: because that's what they're doing. You accuse others of what
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: you yourself are doing to muddy the waters and get
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: away with it. Ye say, forty hours a week, why
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: is my calculator or not? Okay? Here it is so yeah, like, uh,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: let's see forty hours a week, so times, so that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: would be eighty eighty times, forty five thousand, forty five thousand.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: What would that be like if if you're a feminist,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: let's find out whoh three point six millionaire, three point
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: six millionaire if they were as if they were as
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: hard working as we are. But they're not. They're probably
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: getting that for nothing. They're probably getting that for going
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: to coffee with their friends, and they're all friends. It's
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: all a network of people who rub each other's rub elbows,
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: pat each other's backs, and make sure it's all nepotism
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: all the way down, well funded nepotism. And I actually,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: when I was researching this, I came across a woman
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: who was actually like a woman who had been experienced
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: domestic violence. And she was on Twitter talking about how
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: these angios don't help like they should. She's trying to
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: find services and these these these ENGOs aren't helping her.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, because that's you think that the feminist
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: is not designed to help. It's it's designed to maximize
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: money to the board members.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: And in addition, like, for example, a feminist NGO CEO
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: like leader will will draw salary. We'll be sitting on
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: other boards. Okay, so she might be getting like, I
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, one hundred thousand. Oh that seems okay. Rights,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: She's she's managing an entire NGO. She deserves one hundred
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: thousand a year. She's sitting on ten other boards, so
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: she's making over half a million a year just for
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: her so called advocacy, and yet that advocacy doesn't it's
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: I guess it's trickled down feminism. Huh, it's trickled down feminism.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it is.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, freaking insane.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: All right, So let me play the Elon Musk clip. Now,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: why isn't it shit? Hold on?
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll be set with technical difficulties.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I got a no, it'll just take a second. Okay,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I just got to share it again. That's all all right.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: One of the biggest scam Port holes we've uncovered, which
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: is really crazy, is uh, is that is that.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: He's so autistic. He is very turbo autism. You know,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: like we're hearing about turbal cancer. This man is turbo autism.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah he yeah, totally scam Ford holes we've uncovered.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Which is really crazy, is uh? Is that is that
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the government can give money to a so called nonprofit
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: with with very few controls and then that and there's
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: there's no auditing subsequently of that nonprofit, so there's no
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: So this is where with the you know, al point
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: nine billion Stacy Arams, who's who's they didn't give themselves
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: extremely lavished like insane salaries, expense everything yet to the
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: to the nonprofit, you know, buy jets and homes and
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: all sorts of things.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Live like kings and queens. Yes on the taxpayer done. Correct.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: You mentioned this is happening at scale. It's not just
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: one or two. We're seeing this everywhere.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then remember Black Lives Matters.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this like this is I mean,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I'm glad they're finding this out. I'm not angry that
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: they're doing it now, but we've talked about this for
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a while. And I also have this Wired magazine article
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: which is kind of crazy. They're just putting it out there,
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: but I thought I would share this too. A dark
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: money group is secretly funding high profile democratic influencers. So
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: and they're paying them like eight thousand dollars a month.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: And it's a bunch of like, you know, people that
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: are just like people that are on social media promoting
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you know, democratic policies, which is basically feminist, progressive policies,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and they're just getting paid. So it's not just the NGOs,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: but is also that right, So there's a number of
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: ways that this is being like, you know, people are
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: getting their pockets lined. But anyway, you know.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't want to complain about it either, because like
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the thing is that I'm able to do this work
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: because you guys support us, and that's the This is
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: the work that I've decided that, you know. It's like
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: how give back to the world is to try to
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: point out that we need to we need to put
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: blaming women into our toolkit until we're comfortable enough blaming
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: women as we do men. Because women don't just bring
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: universal positives, ah, they also bring problems. And if we
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: can't call them out on the problems that they bring,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: those problems go unaddressed and nobody wants to hear that.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody wants to crusade and they want a crusade for
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: the damsels. Both sides unfortunately has this problem. And it's
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: like I said, you know, in the UK right now,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: more conservative women are saying step up men, and the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: liberal women are getting out the bats and slamming them
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: into their knees legally to make them kneel. It's like,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: and the problem is women's influence over politics, right and
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: the fact that we can't recognize when it has really
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: bad effects. Okay, we probably would be fine with women voting.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: If we could blame women as easily as we blame men,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: if we could hold them to account as easily as
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: we do, if we could recognize that women also bring problems,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: not just wonderfulness into the world and into things like
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: voting and political agitation, if we could recognize the female shadow,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: we would be doing fine. Right, we would be doing fine.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: There would be the majority of people would say, well, okay,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: but why should men have to take responsibility for the
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: political landscape that women have constructed? Right, And then we
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: would hold women to account for that, and we probably
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: never would have gotten to the point where we have
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of single women who are a gigantic
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: party throwing its weight around in the most insane and
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: self destructive ways possible, right, because we wouldn't have had
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to offload women's shadow, or the perception of women's shadow
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: onto men, thus making like destroying generations of men morally
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: and emotionally, and making generations of women not want to
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: be wives and mothers. So we wouldn't have this gigantic
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: fat berg in politics known as the single party of
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: single women. Hey, all right, okay, So anyway.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I got a super chow I'm gonna read it. David
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Lowboy gave us five and says, honey, for the Badgers,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: love you, love to you all. We need to make
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: more women and cry more women. Tears are not actually kryptonite,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: believe it or not. Thank you for that, David low
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Boy really appreciate it. All right, Uh so, so what
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: what else we want to look at? What else we're
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: looking at?
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just curious why fees were attached to your super chowel, Like,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: what the heck is going on there?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know. That's weird. Okay, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: got to look into that. Maybe it's a tip. Maybe
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: he tipped the tip just thank you.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe yeah.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, an error, No, probably, I think it's just tip
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and then a tip, which no, I think you just
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: tell me if that was intentional, Just do a little
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: bit of impromptu, uh troubleshooting. Okay, So did we finish
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: the elon musk on?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That was it for that.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Okay, Let's go to the next one, which is,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: let me let me open up my discords. A dark
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: money group is secretly funding high profile democratic influencers.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I already sent that to you. Yeah, I'm just looking
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: at it.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: What Oh was that the That wasn't the Elon musk.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: That's different.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: No, that's different. I know. But I'm saying it's not
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: only happening one way.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Mmm.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like you know what I'm saying, it's not
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: just it's coming from like public interests, for government interests
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: and private interests. That's what I'm saying.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but do you want to look at that
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: article or whatever it is?
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, I was going to make that a news story
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: so that Mike and Hannah can go on a tire
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: rate on that. But I mean, if we have we
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: have lots already. I don't know if you want to Okay,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: we can move on there, could do that if you want,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if you if you had some.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Stuff, oh right, because we're going to talk about the
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: trends shooter as well.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. So, yeah, do you have any links
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: for me to put up regarding that? I don't know
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: what thing you wanted.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: H Actually, this is this is just sort of like
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: breaking news. I heard that the the manifesto was released.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I thought that the person the shooter made like a video.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it or anything, but they put out
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: like a video of them which was sort of like
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the manifesto, or at least it's tied to it. I'm
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: not really sure, so, but yeah, like what about it?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: Hmm, all right, so we could look at this. I
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: got something here. I don't know how current this is. Oh,
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: it's a couple of days ago.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Robin Westman posted a manifesto on YouTube. That's yeah,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: that's what I was saying prior to Annunciation Church shooting.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: As we learn more about Robin Westman, the person suspected
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: of carrying out a mass shooting, I'm pretty sure they
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: did it. But okay, I guess you got to like
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: cross your t's and dot your lowercase jays. A mass
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: shooting at Annunciation Church on Wednesday morning, five investigates is
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: digging into their past. Westman identified as a woman, and
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: court documents show she changed her name to Robin from Robert.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: In twenty twenty, Investigative reporter Ryan Raychie found videos on
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: a YouTube page believed to belong to Westman. The page
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: has since been taken down, but the videos seem to
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: have been posted on Wednesday morning. I'll just jump ahead
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: here The serving video shows Westman's arsenal of guns, ammunition,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: and what appears to be a handwritten four page manifesto
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: addressed to Westman's family and friends, but a letter begins.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I don't expect forgiveness. I do apology for the effort
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: effects my actions will have on your lives. I was
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: corrupted by this world and have learned to hate what
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: life is. The writing continues. The end of the second
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: page reads, I have wanted this for so long. I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: am not well, I am not right. I'm a sad person,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: haunted by these thoughts that do not go away. I
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: know this is wrong, but I can't seem to stop myself.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I am severely depressed and have been suicidal for years.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: Only recently have I lost all hope and decided to
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: perform my final action against the world. The manifesto concludes
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: by asking for prayers for the victims and their families. Ironic,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the videos also show the face of Jesus on a
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: shooting target and a stockpile of guns and ammunition adorned
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: with memes, anti religious phrases and odes to mass murderers.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: The person on the video flashed a white supremacy sign
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: fed racial slurs and showed a shirt with a patch
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: of the old Minnesota flag and the phrase do it
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: before the anxiety kicks In the ten or so names
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: written in Westmins are arsenal alluded to those responsible for
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: the massacres at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the Tree of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh, and the mosque shootings in christ Church,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: New Zealand, among others. Also written on the weaponry were
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: references to the Holocaust and calls for Israel to fall
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: and burn. A journal written in what appears to be
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: cyrillic characters also includes a hand drawn map of the church.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: The person in the video also holds a smoke bomb,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: which police say was used in the attack. Fiving investigates
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: sat down with Josephina Sanchez, former classmate of Westman, who
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: said Westman had a few friends, had few friends, not
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: of few, few friends, and some odd obsessions. She says
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: she attended grade school with Robin in Saint Paul, who
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: then went by Robert. Looking back, she says, she now
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: sees some red flags. I knew that something was off,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: but I was a kid. How was I to know
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: what to do? Sanchez says, in seventh grade Sanchez says
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: she struck up a friendship with the boys she knew
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: as Robert Westman, but the friendship was short lived after
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: some unusual behavior. When you see something erratic, it doesn't
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: leave your mind. So he would put up his hand
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: and praise Hitler, Sanchez said, I think that's a spiritual battle.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Said Sanchez, or the Manifesto videos, I don't think it's
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: this world. It's the monic. I'm sorry it is. I
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: think we need Jesus. She needed him, Sanchez said. The
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: video of Robin's journal written in another language brought back
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: memories of Westman writing in code so nobody could understand it.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: It was kind of triggering, Sanchez said, through tears. I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: wish I could have said something sooner, but I was little.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: How was I supposed to know?
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, So I want to point something out in
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: all of this. I did read some little segments of
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: what he had to say. What this individual, I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: they would be the identifier because they don't identify as
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: a man or a woman, tried to become a woman
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: then decided to stop. Essentially, when you read this, it's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: the it's the words of someone searching for an identity
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: and finding none. He did not want He could not
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: identify with being a man, He regretted trying to identify
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: with being a woman, So he had no identity. He
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: was struggling with no understanding of himself. And now they're
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: calling for of course, gun control. And also if you
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: look at this situation, so he apparently praised Hitler, hated Trump,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: wanted to do something to the Jews, hated children, like
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: there's his ideology was across the map, right, because.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but how so praising Hitler is what right wing.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Or whatever it's well, it would be considered across the
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: map by the powers that be. My overall point is
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: that he's searching for like this. This is something we've said
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: before that many of these people Onney, of these young
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: men with no identity searching for something are even self
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: contradictory things. We've said this before, right, Brian said what
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: that that men, these young men who are searching for
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: an identity can end up in groups, separate groups, liberal groups, disparate.
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Well, it was
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: specifically talking about how the in cells can like what
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: what people call in cells can be like courted by
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: various radical groups that offer them a sense of purpose basically,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: and they could being an Islamic terrorist to a KKK
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: member to a b l amember like in the same breath,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: because they're looking for a place to belong, yeah, and.
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: Even be parts of contradictory ideologies. Yeah, because there's no
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: real sense of self in any of this. And what
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get at is that we focus on
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the ideologies that are espoused and we don't focus on this,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: this lack of a sense of self, a sense of
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: identity for young men, the young men who are involved
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: in this kind of stuff. So the left will focus
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: on what they call the extreme right, far right ideologies,
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: and the conservatives will will focus on the extreme left ideologies,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: but neither are looking at this is why are these
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: young men? Why do they have no positive sense of self?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: And they end up getting drawn into this violence in
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: order to serve something, in order to sacri fuleast for
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: something that they think is larger than themselves or their
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: own resentments. Right, So nobody's really talking about this is
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: a symptom of our war against men having a positive
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: social identity in this society, Like this war against positive
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: masculinity or the recognized recognization recognition that men afford unique
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: benefits to society. So you see what I'm.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Saying now, Yeah, I see what you're saying. I think
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that with this, with these
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: transgender shooters, I think what happens is they invest in
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: this identity of being the opposite sex because they're looking
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: for a place to belong. Yes, but it's one of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: these things that you can't back out of easily. So
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: once you've gone down that road. But I don't know
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: if this person took hormones or had any surgeries done
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: or anything like that, but once you go down this road,
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: you can't really go back easily. And I think that
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: that's when that's where the suicidal ideation comes from. Oh, like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it becomes an explosive suicidal ideation because he
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: obviously killed himself as well as like, I think a
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: couple of children were killed and several were wounded and hospitalized.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: But I mean, can we have a conversation about whether
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: or not transgenderism is a good idea like that? And
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I know that we can talk about how it is, like,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: you know that men are not allowed to be men?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I get that one hundred percent behind it. But that
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we just excuse them medicating themselves into
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: this position, which I'm not for. I'm not for that.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: And part of it is essentially like justify this, you know, delusion, like, well,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: call me by my proper pronouns. How about no, that's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: not good for you, you know, Like, I'm sorry. But that's
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: why I think that it's a problem that we permit,
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: not just encouraged.
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Men, we all have to be okay with that.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, So what we're seeing here is possibly the result
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: of instead of challenging intrusive thoughts or obsessive thoughts, we're
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: encouraging them in certain individuals.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, there's a you know b X
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: who have had on the show a couple of times.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: She like covers a lot of like this cult. It's
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: a Satanic cult called seven six four M. They do
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: that they go on these forums where you have these
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: like you know, let's say, these these men who have
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: been isolated, these young guys, and they encourage them to
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: you know, join the cult, to like perform acts of
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: self harm, to perform violence and so on. And apparently
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: this guy may have been a part of a cult
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: called the Order of Nine Angels, this Robin person. And
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: there was also the Zizians I think they're called, and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: they're all a bunch of transgender like atheist rationalists that
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: have murdered people and stuff too, and so it's it's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: there's definitely a pattern. I don't think we can ignore.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I guess, I guess we.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Might have to agree to disagree, because I think that
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: this is a symptom of the greater like even the
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: trans thing. I think it's almost like they go into
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: these popular identities and they want to clothe themselves in it. Now,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: I agree, like the rhetoric around the trans is instead
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: of encouraging people to resolve their obsessive thoughts and resolve
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: they're like their intrusive thoughts round their sexuality, so instead
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: of challenging those things, yeah, they they are, you know,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: and the whole medical establishment around trans at this point
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: is like completely screwed up, right, I mean, but I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: can't like that. I don't disagree, but I think that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a lot of this is again, like people are going
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: into the popular thing and these young men are going
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: into the popular thing to find an identity. I mean,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: and again it would be before before the trans thing exploded,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: because we used to talk about this stuff before everything
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: was trans right, everything was about the trans, the radical
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: transactivists and turfs and all of this other stuff. We
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: would see that these young men who had no sense
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: strong sense of self going into other, uh, extremist ideologies.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: I think the problem is that we don't recognize the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: potential for trans radical activism to become an extremist ideology.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: So we it has this, it cloaks itself in this
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: patina of mental health, this patina of human rights, you know,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and we can't we can't separate that from the potential
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: to create highly well ideological violence because you are dealing
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: with people with a low sense of self who get
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: attached to these kinds of things. It's like what chomps No,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: not norm chomp skiing leftists, but Michael McLuhan said, or
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: Marshall McLuhan said, when you strip people of their identities,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: they become violent. And we don't like if there if
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: there's a specific issue with the trans, what's happening with
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: the trans community and trans radical activism is that we
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: are they are allowed to use the it's cover of
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: treating mental health issues and all of this supposed positive
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: regard and you know, not not actually, uh, instead of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: looking at it as a mental health issue that you
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: go in and you deal with the obsessive thoughts, you
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: deal with the intrusive thoughts, you know, and you see
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: if you can you can make progress with that, you
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: just enable it. Right, So it's cloaked in this mental health,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: this medical thing, this human rights thing, and we don't
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: recognize the potential of creating extremist violence by encouraging obsessive
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: and intrusive thoughts instead of getting people to challenge them.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: Because this sounds like this hatred of children was probably
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: like you were. You showed me this pedophile compulsive disorder thing.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's called let me find it again? What's crazy?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: Is it?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: This?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I learned about this through the uh this like dark
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: ROMANTICI stuff that women read and that it's having an
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: effect on them where they have this. Uh, let me
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: see if I can find it. Yeah, POCD. It's called
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: pedophile themed obsessive compulsive disorder.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: So it's an obsessive fear of becoming or being a pedophile,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: what too many is considered the ultimate loss of identity,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the ultimate loss of identity.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting because it's the ultimate evil, right.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I guess, or like a desire to be like a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: child again. I think like maybe they people think of it.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: And I'm not excusing it obviously, but maybe maybe people
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: think that there's some safety in that. You ever notice
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: like the people who are into like maybe it's just
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: a fetish, I don't know, but like into the whole
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: thing about wearing diapers and you know that whole thing.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so it's like it was like a return
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: to infancy because you haven't you haven't identified an adult,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: you haven't created an adult identity because probably honestly, this
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: individual did not need trans like they didn't need the trands.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say propaganda, trans, dogma, trans. They
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: didn't need this trans stuff in their life sounds. What
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: they needed was a father, the story. Yeah, but a
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: better connection to an identity through their actions like that,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: because this is like obsessive thinking, and often the only
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: way to get rid of obsessive thinking is to refocus
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: on your actions and on what you can or cannot
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: do and intrusive thoughts like I don't. I'm not exactly
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: sure the treatment for pedophile obsessive disorder, but it's certainly
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: not to continue to say that thinking is reels or
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: feels is reels, but to learn how to manage your
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: feelings so that they're consistent with your own expectations.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there was something he said. I'm trying to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: find the quote he said, according to this image, I'll
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: share it with you right now. Minneapolis school shooter confessed
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: he was quote tired of being trans. I wish I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: never brainwashed myself. So I think that that, if it's true,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: that seems relevant. And yeah, I mean I think that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: I don't. I guess that I don't know what his
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: situation at home was. I don't know if he knows
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: his father. I don't know any of that. But there,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's where it Maybe it might
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: make sense that that might be where it comes from,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean I guess the question is
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: do we do we go with like really simplistic talking
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: points or do we ask ourselves how do we change this?
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: Or how do we how do we change the preconditions
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: for things like this? To happen. And my opinion is
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: that we stop, we stop making it, We stop an
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: attack on positive masculinity. This this kid should have known.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: He should have known that just by existing as a man,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: he gives something to the world. I mean, if this
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: is why this happened, okay, is that that he actually
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: this was self hatred. This was an inability to find
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: an identity that worked. He got shunted down the trans
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: hole instead of the men's he choose advocacy whole, where
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: he would have been told, you know, as a young man,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: you have potential, You have important things to give to society.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: You have value just innately. You can choose to put
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: that value to the service of others, but you have value.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: There are unique things that men bring to the world.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: That's why they evolved and they persist as half the population. Ye,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: Mother nature doesn't make mistakes like that. So they have
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: unique things to bring, and you have a unique identity,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: a uniquely positive identity. Instead, they get the message of
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: if you become a woman, all of your problems will
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: be solved. Well, his problems weren't solved. Right. If you
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: become a woman and you force everybody to agree with
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the fact that you're a woman, then your problems are solved. Yeah. Well,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: maybe your problem is that you don't have an understanding
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: of your own value as a man and the value
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: you bring to the world. Maybe if you understood that,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be so eager to throw it away. And
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: this is this, and this is and again he got
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: he got shunted down this hole instead of shunted into
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: another hole or not a hole, but like brought to
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: a place where he could understand that he himself has value.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, and of course this could all just be
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: he's a nutcase, right, He's a violent nutcase, and there
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: was nothing anybody could do because violent nutcases exist. Like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: but but again, I still think that I think that.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: The problem is nihilism though. I think that like that you.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: I think most people who have mental health problems, uh
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: usually at least have like the desire to like be healed,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: and they look for help. I think that the he
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: was just crazy is a little bit of a thrower.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I think that he needed like some hope
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: in his life and he didn't really have it. Yeah.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Well I needed a purpose, yes, sense, a purpose, and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: that's that's exactly what we're not giving young men. Let's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: be honest. I guess the sense of purpose for young
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: women is to smash the patriarchy at least they have
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: what I suppose. Well, the other thing I wanted to
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: mention was he had a hatred of children, which you,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: like you were saying it could be a desire to
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: regress into a state where he doesn't have to deal
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: with these issues. Yeah, and an anger towards those who are.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: In also been one of these people that, like, you know,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: believe that children by being alive are suffering because the
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: world sucks, and so like there should be fewer people
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: in it.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well lots of other thoughts. I mean, I
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: guess we could just uh blame the trans people. I
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: think I think they there is some blame there because
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: again they're they're constructing that rabbit hole for people who
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: with mental health issues to fall down.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: And and to encourage instead of challenging obsessive thoughts, instead
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: of challenging intrusive feelings, you know, to can encourage your
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: encourage this sense of helplessness towards it. So if you
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: think you're a woman, or if you have an intrusive
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: thought that you're actually a woman. Instead of challenging it
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: whether or not it's true, you just submit to it.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: So it's this encouragement to submit to your own mental
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: illness that I think it's actually not just trans community.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's common on the left.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: But anyway, Okay, so I did a little bit of
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: digging while you were talking. Sure, his parents divorced in
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. His father not in the picture, James Allen Westman,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: is his father. He owned the family home in Hastings,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Minnesota at the time of the twenty thirteen divorce. Public
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: record show he now owns a home in South Minneapolis,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: less than a mile away from the church which was
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: search post shooting, and he has cooperated with police, described
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: as taking the children to church regularly. A neighbor in Richfield,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: The Independent told told The Independent that James and his
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: wife were good neighbors who shared landscape and materials. So yeah,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: so it was there was a divorce and this guy
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: started transitioning in twenty twenty. So what happened? I mean,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: I know that we can't really know a lot for sure,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm just looking at the various things at play here.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: So parents got divorced in twenty thirteen. They Catholics, and
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: I guess his mother got the custody or they're splitting it.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I'll figure that out. And yeah,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: he's got like a brother too, so I don't know.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: M Well, he was seventeen years old when he started
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: transitioning to so.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: So he's seventeen years old. That was five years. Yeah,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: so he the divorce happened seven years so when he
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: was ten.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. He was seventeen when he started transitioning. Yes,
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: so that when they got divorced, he was like nine
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: or ten.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Ten, Yeah, okay, so just at the precipice of starting
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: to develop his adult identity. No offense, but you know,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: if a woman throws the father out just at that moment,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: it's got to have effect on the son. You're worthless,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: You're a worthless man. Out, you go out of the family.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I don't want you. Sun is watching this. I mean,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: most of the times this won't result in any kind
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: of a search for an identity that leads to violence.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: But that's got to really hurt young men or young
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: boys to just have that stripped from them anyway. But
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: we don't care about that because women need to be free,
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: free until they aren't anymore because they've destroyed the society
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: that gave them their freedom. Okay, do you want to
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: move on to the woman who was graping the boy?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: Sure? Colin Rugg shared this tweet. Let me close these
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: other windows really quick. Yeah, it looks like the mom
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: had primary custody after the divorce. So there you go.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, not surprising all that.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: That can't possibly be. That can't possibly be why this
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: boy had a really shaky sense of his own identity.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Hostage. Yeah, I don't think, for God's sake, absolutely ridiculous. Okay,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: So a new teenager who got his teacher pregnant when
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: he was thirteen claims he was the one who instigated
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: the relationship, and it is calling for her charges to
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: be dropped. New Jersey teacher Laura Karen was arrested for
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: raping a male child for years, allegedly starting around the
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: time the boy was eleven. The relationship began when Karen
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: was about twenty six years old, that's the woman, and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: allegedly went on for at least four years. They need
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: to drop all charges. I wasn't groomed or raped or
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: manipulated by her. She never initiated anything. I started everything,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: he said to the Daily Mail. This suff is like
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the world has no idea what she has done from
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: my family. I love her with all my heart. She
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: was there for me and my family. Back in December,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: the victim's father noticed that the child looked like him
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: and his son, raising concerns, Oh my god. Karen had
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: taught the victim and his brother when they were in
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: fifth grade. Over the years, the parents of the victim
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: said the family became friends with Karen, which ultimately led
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: to them even allowing their boys and daughter to stay
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: at Karen's home at times. ABC six reported the children
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: eventually stayed with Karen permanently from twenty sixteen to twenty twenty.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: According to reports, the victim's sister says her brother was
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: about eleven years old when he started sleeping in the
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: same bed as Karen. The teacher would reportedly go into
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the bathroom while the victim was showering, lock the door,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: and rape him while the other siblings slept. Karen is
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: currently a waiting trial and faces ten years in prison.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Colin Rugg, good on you for framing this in the
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: EXAs that way that it should be framed. Okay, but
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: so what did you want to say about this thirteen.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Year old boy? So we're just listening, Okay, So a
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: thirteen year old boy understands what's happening to him after
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: he's been groomed since he was eleven. I wonder what
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: the parents are saying. This is the And honestly, I
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: wonder what he'll think when he starts to get hair
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: on his face and she throws him out and starts
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: going after young, younger children. Again, this is the thing, Like,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: this is not like the weirdest excuses people make for
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: women like this, like she just some this accidentally happened,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: or maybe she was so warning or there wasn't good
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: enough men or something.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Some ridiculous that whole thing.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, no, this is a pedophile.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: She befriended this family, she made them reliant on her
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: because it gave her access to this child. She is
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: a humperdink. Well that was was that his name from.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: Lolita Humperdink from Princess Bride?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah that might be. Well, maybe she's also a humperdink, but.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: Humperding wouldn't do that. He wanted a grown woman to marry.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: But I think he was supposed to be gay. Humbert Humbert,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: humbered Humbert Humbert. Okay, sorry, guys, I guess that was
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: slightly amusing a little bit of levity. Humbert Humbert. He
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: this woman is a humberd she probably is less less sex.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Ten years, ten years, ten years for the boy.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: Wants to drop the charges. I mean, that's why you
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: know he's been groomed. Can you imagine interview, what if
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: the shoe was on the other foot. But it's ridiculous.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: What and the thing is that this is a pedophile.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: She specifically groomed this family. The groom the entire family
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: to allow them access to her, to their son, to
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: allow her to get access to her son. And as
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: soon as he's a little bit older, she's going to
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: lose interest in him. She's going to find another family,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: another vulnerable family, to groom so she can get access
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: to their son. Because this is a pedophile, This is
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: a sexual predator, and this is the behavior of a
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: sexual predator. Like, like you said, it's good that this
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: guy actually called it out for what it is.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: A lot of people won't call it rape at least right.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this woman needs to be put away because
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: she's going to do this to other kids. And ten
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: years for raping a child between the ages of eleven
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: and thirteen allegedly and we have to say allegedly so
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: we don't get sued, but that's it. Ten years and
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: getting pregnant ten years.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I think you should get life for
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: bringing a rape baby into the world, Like I think
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: these women should get life for that. It's not gonna happen,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: but one can dream faces ten years in.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Freaking greed.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: That's a what do you freaking say, what do you
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: fucking say? Good lord, oh my god. Yeah, she's probably
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: not even gonna serve like she's gonna serve like twelve
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: months probation. Unbelievable. And the fact that this thirteen year
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: old kid is going to bat for this woe. You
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: know that feminists bring up this this this thing that
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: happened in like nineteen thirty seven where a nine year
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: old girl married some old older dude. Apparently she was
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: still living with her mother, and her mother okayed this relationship,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: so it was probably a situation, you know, in the
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: old world where you got him married young. They didn't
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: necessarily have sex with their husband for another I don't know,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: nine years or whatever. But you were trying to make
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: it so that they were taken care of, right, so
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: that you could check that off the list. They have
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: somebody to take care of them. They're not going to
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: starve to death in the.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Future, right like nineteen thirty seven where America.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Some rural prom rural state in America. But they bring
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: it up as this kind of sexual exploitation of girls,
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: even though at the time when it was made public
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: it caused an enormous scandal and made it so that
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of laws were changed. And also in
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: order to get this done, they the mother had to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: the family had to engage in lying about her age
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: in the first place. So it was it was a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: huge scandal. It was reduced to with now we have
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: a situation where this woman is exploiting this boy and
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: facing ten years, which she's probably what she gonna actually
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: guess she's facing ten years. What is she going to
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: actually get a bouquet of.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: Flowers and a gift like what maybe like two years
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: and on good behavior or something. Yeah, is she gonna
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: have to like at least get you know, be put
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: on the sex offender registry. I mean, might even get
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: out of that. I don't know. And if she's pregnant
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: with a baby, is he gonna be paying child's apart?
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna have to raise this child? Now?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean she okay, Well what this will be interesting?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: You know, and a few year's her of the family
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: will before on the hook for child support. Tell me
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: she he turns eighteen, then he's on the hook for
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: child sport. And I guess by the time he turns eighteen,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: she'll have found herself a new one, a new little
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: boy to exploit. I wonder when that moment happens. We
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: can go back, we can revisit and say, do you
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: think it was a good thing?
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's happened? What happens if like this boy grows
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: up and sexually do is he now like he's thirteen?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Or how old is he now?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Thirteen?
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: I think, let me see it doesn't I don't know
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: how old he is, but but he's I don't think
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: he's an adult yet. So what happens if later in life,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: let's say it doesn't work out for him and her,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: which I feel like it won't just out of guess
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: and he ends up praying on some on is it?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: Is it? Like, is it gonna be one of these
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: things where nothing happened before what he did? Is you
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: know what he did? Like? What if he ends up
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: hurting others after that, because there's a pretty good chance
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: he made because he was because he was hurt by this.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, there's a ten percent chance. Well, of course that
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: will be because of patriarchy.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: Right then it'll be patriarchy when the woman does it,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: that's also patriarch. I don't know if you know that,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: but you know, is just toxic masculinity. It'll be because
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: of I don't know if you did you guys know that,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: mm hmm.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: It'll be because of toxic masculinity and rape culture. Yeah,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: that that'll be the reason why he did it. Guys,
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: it's because he's a man.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because masculinity just does that.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just does that. Because it's the men socialize
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: other men to do that. Not this woman. It's sexually
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: grooming this child. No, it was you know, it was
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: the men in his life that groomed him to do
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: that somehow by you know, dark jokes, dark humor and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: liking boobs. That's feminist logic. We can see your your
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: conversation with somebody there.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: No, I was just sharing this because this person said,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: oh yes, that's a good point. I suppose what I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: would consider toxic femininity is basically created by toxic masculinity.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: Something to ponder.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I mean you're you're sharing the conversation with
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: Kevin McDonald. I am, yeah. I think. I don't know
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: if you're sharing it to everybody, but I'm seeing.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: It heaven McDonald yeah, oh oh oh oh yeah, yeah right, yeah.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: He messaged me.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you're you're planning a panel discussion of some sort.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: He wants to talk about emergent ai that It's like
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: he thinks that he's talking to a real person or
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: a being of some kind that's sentient and I humor
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: all all whatever. So it's okay, sure, make the case.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: And he has like a panel of people that have all,
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: like you know, talked with emergent beings. So I'm like, Okay,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: this is gonna be good. So we're going to do it.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't know when that's gonna be yet. Okay,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: I'm too busy, like looking at the immediate future to
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: think about that.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Also, AI does not replicate human intelligence, it doesn't. We
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: don't think in like a stochastic recombining of binary data.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know, I know.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so I think that's pretty much it
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: like this. Okay, So we went through what were our points,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: because I've been told that we should summarize things. So
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: we went through this situation where these Scottish girls were
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: allegedly attacked by migrants or migrant couple. We found out
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: that the individual who instigated the violence allegedly was the
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: migrant woman. And as a result of this attack, you
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: came in are responsible for stepping up, but they didn't
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: or something except.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: That UK men are to blame because they're not able
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: to tell whenever there's danger and teleport to the location
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: to protect girls.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, because the migrants guys.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Like UK guys, where is your telepathy and teleportation? That's
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: what we need to like, why aren't you doing that?
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, And I did have a video that I
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: don't have on me right now, but it basically showed
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: that there was a migrant who pushed a child down
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: some stairs and some UK in jumped in and beat
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: the ever living crap out of him. So I think
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: I think that if the men were there at the time,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: if this wasn't a man desert, they probably would have
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: done something.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Probably, And then men have also been many of his
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: men in the UK have also been making the drum
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: about this for a long time, long time woman gangs
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: about the dangers of mass immigration and what happened to them.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: They were shouted down, mostly by women, Yeah, for being
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: like intolerant scumbags, So.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, you get it. So basically like that one one
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: tweet we shared that that individual, I think it was Eve,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: who feels safer with immigrant men than native you came
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: in and is going to assist in lobbying to make
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: sure that if native you came in do anything to
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: immigrant men, those you came in will go to jail
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: for hate. Right. So essentially we have the women on
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: what would be termed the right saying step up, men,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: and we have the women on the left ensuring that
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: if the men step up, they get kneecapped legally. So
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: it's a perfect storm of bullshit instituted by women, and
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: nobody is calling women out for it. Nobody is saying
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: what the hell are you doing? Right, And both groups
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: of women are caping for the other because the right
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: women on the right are blaming the men for not
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: stepping up, not the women on the left for making
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: it legally impossible for them to do so, And the
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: women on the left are blaming right the men on
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: the right for being biased against migrant men when they
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: are actually trying to defend their own women and children,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: and then using that as justification to increase the legal
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: kneecapping of Native UK men when they attempt to defend themselves.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: So it's a perfect storm of fuck because two groups
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: of women refuse to take responsibility and instead foist it
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: onto men and cape for each other as they do so.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: And you I want you guys to use this like
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: this could be an exercise, homework exercise. Go through all
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: of the political snarls, modern political snarls and ask yourselves
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: how many of them reduced down to two groups of
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: women complaining about the effects of the other group's advocacy
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: and blaming it on men. Right, just just as an
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: exercise for the viewer, I think you will find it fruitful.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: And then we also discussed the recent transhuoter. I floated
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: the possibility that this happens like people engage in violence,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: and they engage in these kinds of behaviors because they
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: are seeking an identity, some kind of well, any kind
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: of impact on the greater world. In fact, I think
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: that's an act. If he had a father, right, wasn't
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 2: the result of a divorce. If he had an involved
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 2: father who could teach him how his actions have a
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 2: positive impact on the world, perhaps he wouldn't go to
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: this extreme to be heard, right, He wouldn't go to
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: this extreme to try to find an identity. He wouldn't
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: end up going down the trans rabbit hole. Instead, he
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: might have dealt with his emotions and understood that he
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: can produce his own identity through his actions, which is
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: something that I think both men and women should learn.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm floating the idea that this situation, this transhuoter situation,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: is not a result of guns. It's not necessarily entirely
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: a result of trans activism, although unfortunately the radical part
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: of that it gets to it operates under cover of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: mental health and human rights. It is a lack of
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: father and a lack of recognition of positive masculinity in society,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: and that covers not just this trans individual but all
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: the other young men who want to be heard so
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: they engage in violence. And again it also covers all
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: of the young men who feel unheard the vast majority
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: and then kill themselves instead, unlive themselves instead. All right,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: So those are my opinion on that, Brian, did you
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: want to add something to that in the summary?
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Well, there's this guy sums it up for me in
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: terms of the trans thing. I think for the Scottish
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: girl and the migrants, I think basically like that's pretty
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: much you know, on the nose in my opinion. But
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: when it comes to this a home Math made a
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: post that I like because he kind of like sums
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: up what I've been saying about, like where so there, Okay,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: there are people who genuinely have generous for you. It's
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: and it's rough. I'm sorry that you're going through that,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: But like that doesn't explain the sort of social contagion
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: of trans identify eyeing people that's spreading everywhere. I don't
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: think that it's the organic I'll just put it like that. No,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: it's not so Homad says this, and I think this
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: is closer to what I think is true. It's important
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: to understand where the psychosis comes from. In this case,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: there is one particular segment of society that encourages this
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: psychosis to fester, only one side. It's been telling men
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: to be weak and then punishing them for being weak,
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 1: and then telling them they can escape the punishment by
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: becoming women. And then of course that doesn't work because
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: it's nonsense and nobody really believes it, and then they
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: start blaming everyone around them the world. If we're going
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: to stop these people from developing these mental problems, we
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: have to point out where they're from. And I think
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: that's like, you know, a big part of this issue.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I think it comes Yeah, I think go ahead,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: go ahead, No, finish your thought. I apologize.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: No. I mean, like, you know, I could add more
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: to it, but I think that gets the basics of it,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: you know, like like we we're telling men that being
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: a man is wrong, and then those men go, well,
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: I guess I'll live as a woman and I and
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: I know, you know, I've I've talked to trans people
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: who legitimately that was their logic. They were like, wow,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: just be a woman then and then people will like me.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: And of course that doesn't work, and it does worse
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: than not work. You know it, it's it you you
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: become like you realize what you've done to yourself. And
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's where the you know, this nihilism comes from.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: And instead, what we should be doing is saying it's
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: okay to be male, and it's good to be male,
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean that you have to fitness some
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: little box or whatever, but like, you know that that
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: masculinity is good, as as Tom Golden says, men are
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: good and that's it. And I think that you know,
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: we we I think that men have to have the
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: authority on what it means to be a man too,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: because too often we have women saying this is a
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: real man, and women don't know what men are. Think
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: of that, most women don't understand men at all, and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: so they shouldn't be defining them. I think that that
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: comes from men's actions in the world, and we celebrate
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: them for what they do, and then other men see
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: that and they're like, that's cool. I want to do
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: that whatever it is right. They could be intellectual pursuits,
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: they could be creative pursuits. They can be you know,
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: physical pursuits. It doesn't matter. You know, I'm not going
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: to tell you to go lift if you can like
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: draw something or paint something, or write something or think something.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think those are all perfectly valid expressions
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: of masculinity because they operate on that perimeter, the perimeter
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: of thought, a perimeter of creativity, the perimeter of action, exploration, whatever, ideas,
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: and so like that's the thing that I think, that's
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: what we need more of. So yeah, that's it.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: I think. Then that's pretty much also what I'm saying,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: except I think I extend it to more identities than
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: just being a woman, like being anti fah, being a communists,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 2: Like all kinds of antifa.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: Antifa guys want to be heroes. That's why we join it.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: Like I think they're completely backwards and stupid, but they
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: But I know why they're motivated to be Antifa, why
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: they want to be revolutionaries. They want to be heroes.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: They're looking for a heroic narrative of their own, and
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: it's being used against them by people who want to
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: manipulate that.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but I think that it's also like the
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: desire for that heroic narrative is because there isn't one
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 2: consistent with any kind of pro social activity in our
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 2: current society for men, there's no recognition that masculinity brings
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: something good to our society. So this is why, and
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 2: it's it's right there in Well, it's not just uh,
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: one side has been telling men to be weak and
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 2: punishing them for being weak. Well, it's not just that,
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: you know. One side is basically said, you you offer
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: nothing good as a man. Yeah, right, and so what
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: what do you do? Well? Yeah, you you either want
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: a heroic narrative to prove them wrong, or you become
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: a woman. Are you unlive yourself or you or you
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: check out?
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: And my overall point is that all of this is
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: a symptom of what feminism is doing to math. And
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: I think that whole math is making the same point.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: I think you're making the same point. Maybe we're just
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: talking across each other. And then okay, so and finally
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: we went through the boy who was defending his grapist
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: who started, you know, graping him at eleven and then
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: uh until he was thirteen, and and I I don't
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: I think the parents should step in and start advocating
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: for their son's interests, Like why is he like he's
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  Speaker 2: a minor? This is this is where you know, parents
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  Speaker 2: are supposed to step in. It's say I know, I
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  Speaker 2: think that I think you need therapy. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you need to continue to defend your abuser, and in fact,
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  Speaker 2: we are absolutely mortified that we allowed this woman to
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  Speaker 2: have access to you. I mean, could you imagine, like, okay,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 2: let us do the switcheroo. A man who helps a
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  Speaker 2: family you know, has grapes the daughter of that family
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  Speaker 2: from eleven to fourteen, and the daughter says, oh, I
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  Speaker 2: don't I want I want them to drop the charges
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  Speaker 2: because he's done so much from it. Nobody is talking
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  Speaker 2: about why the parents aren't stepping in and saying, oh,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: oh gosh, we're mortified that this happened. We had no idea,
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  Speaker 2: and now our daughter is going to go to therapy,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: not go in public and defend her abuser. You think
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: that people wouldn't be saying that this wouldn't happen, And
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: in fact, if that happened, there would be another There
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  Speaker 2: would be like a I don't know, a Lolita walk
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  Speaker 2: by feminists around the world, calling the parents out, calling
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  Speaker 2: out the lawyers that allowed this dog this girl to
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  Speaker 2: defend her own abuse publicly. To even suggest this you
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: know that calling out the court, you know, calling out anybody, everybody, society, patriarchy,
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: men walking down the street by the court. When this happened,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 2: they'd be calling out everyone for this, for this occurrence
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: of this situation. And instead we're taking this this incredibly
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is that, again, where are the parents?
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: Why aren't they being called out? Is there is there
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: anybody calling out these parents and say, what the hell
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: are you doing? What the hell are you doing? Why
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  Speaker 2: haven't you taken your son aside and said, I'm sorry
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: to tell you, but this woman does not have your
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: best interests in mind. Why are you hiding about it
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: behind yourself, your mouthfeasance behind you. I know why. Because
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: they're sacrificing their sons to their own sense of well being.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: Unfreaking believable. Yeah, And is there anybody pointing that out
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 2: except for me? Like, where are the parents? Where are
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: the parents saying telling junior, step sit down, you need
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: therapy and we maybe need to lose custody over you
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: because we've massively failed in protecting you. Like every day
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  Speaker 2: I'm reminded that boy means servant.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's true.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: Like this is the oh well, I mean what we're
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: just we're just trading his sexuality for our benefit. That's
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: neither here nor there. I mean that's what men do, right,
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: They sacrifice for the benefit of their relatives and their families.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: That the boy was just doing. You know, there's a
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 2: long history and other cultures of boys dancing to uh
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: to provide for their families. That's just just just in
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: Western iteration of it, sick. All right, did you have
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  Speaker 2: anything to add to that?
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