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AEW Hot Topics | Blood & Guts · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: 10, 9, ignition sequence start, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0,
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  Speaker 1: all engines running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, you know what that means, it's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition with the AUW Fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson,
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  Speaker 2: and it's time for Blood and Guts. Guys, are you
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to Blood and Guts?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Oh, yeah. Happy Christmas, everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like the most wonderful time of the year,
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  Speaker 2: if you're a sicko.
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  Speaker 3: Blood and Guts with violence, yay!
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yay. And we've got Conrad from the Everything Pro
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  Speaker 2: Wrestling podcast. He says, you... because that's pretty much all
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  Speaker 2: he knows how to type, I think. And salute to
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  Speaker 2: the Sickos. Guess what he said?
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  Speaker 1: The Sickos salute you back, sir.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he just said hello. But hello, guys.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Glad to have you here. We're going to be talking
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  Speaker 2: about blood and guts. I have to make a confession here.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to be one of those voiceover guys for
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  Speaker 2: for AEW. I sent in an audition tape and everything.
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  Speaker 2: I got rejected because they said that I sounded a
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  Speaker 2: little bit too much like AI. It's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: But let me tell you, I don't have the audition
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  Speaker 2: tape anymore, but let me tell you the way I
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  Speaker 2: would have done this. Okay? You ready?
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Hit me.
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. They said that I sounded like AI
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  Speaker 2: and I was very much too lit... I was too
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  Speaker 2: literal in my reading, which I didn't understand. How can
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  Speaker 2: you be too... You read what's on the paper. How
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  Speaker 2: can you be too literal? But anyway, here we go.
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  Speaker 3: Ready?
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  Speaker 2: Here we go. One cage, two rings, three words, dot, dot, dot.
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  Speaker 2: I read it just right. I read what was.
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  Speaker 1: On the paper. It's an ellipses.
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  Speaker 2: It's the what?
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  Speaker 1: It's an ellipses. It's to indicate that.
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  Speaker 2: I may not be slender as I used to be,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't block out the sun. What are you
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  Speaker 2: talking about with ellipses?
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  Speaker 4: The three dots are a punctuation mark called an ellipses.
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  Speaker 4: It's basically there to mean that a sentence has trailed
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  Speaker 4: off or will be continuing after a slight pause.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, did you two plan this bit or is this
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  Speaker 3: just natural? Because either way, it's great, but if it's natural,
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  Speaker 3: it's really great.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you. When I see
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  Speaker 2: one cage, two rings, three words, dot, dot, dot, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: come on, it's right there. I don't care about the
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  Speaker 2: sun and who's blocking it. But when I see that,
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  Speaker 2: it's weird because the first thing that comes to my
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  Speaker 2: mind is my failed marriage. You know, it's like the
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  Speaker 2: three words being Coulson's failed marriage. It's just, I don't know. I,
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  Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little bit weird tonight.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm sure blood and guts would have been
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  Speaker 3: appropriate for that one as well.
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  Speaker 2: I actually have a picture from my, from my wedding.
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  Speaker 2: You want to see it?
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  Speaker 3: We'll see that later.
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  Speaker 2: No, here it is. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: That's evil.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she was a beautiful... I mean, my daughter's.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to this. Your fingers are a lot more slender
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  Speaker 3: than I expected.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I tell you what, she was a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a back scratcher. I'll give you that. The witch,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the woman, my wife, she can scratch a
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  Speaker 2: heck of a back. We need to move on with
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we do.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we do. Just want to remind everybody... Just want
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  Speaker 2: to remind everybody, tomorrow night, AEW Dynamite Blood and Guts
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  Speaker 2: during the show on the AEW Fan Hub subreddit. We
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  Speaker 2: will be doing a live chat, so we hope that
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  Speaker 2: you join us, and let's have some fun. We had
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun last week, and of course, after
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  Speaker 2: the show, after AEW Dynamite, head on over to YouTube at...
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  Speaker 2: I need to find this. There we go. At EPW
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  Speaker 2: Show on YouTube, For Conrad and Derek, we'll be doing
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  Speaker 2: their post Blood and Guts AEW Dynamite review show. Always
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  Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Make sure you head on over
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  Speaker 2: there and support them. They do a great show over there.
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  Speaker 2: And it's highly interactive. And support them. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: are you guys ready to get on with our show?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Because we haven't started yet. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Roll that beautiful bean footage.
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  Speaker 2: The what?
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  Speaker 3: Don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 2: What did you say?
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  Speaker 1: He said, roll that beautiful bean footage.
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  Speaker 2: The bean footage?
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever watch television?
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  Speaker 2: Not... I mean... What's bean footage?
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  Speaker 4: There's a very famous series of commercials... For Bush's Baked Beans,
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  Speaker 4: featuring the founder of the company and his dog. Just
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  Speaker 4: wait a second here.
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  Speaker 2: Because, Chris, you referenced Baked Beans, and you thought that
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  Speaker 2: I would know something about that? Not by far.
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  Speaker 3: It was a very popular commercial.
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  Speaker 2: I tend not to watch commercials.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, let's just get this show back on
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  Speaker 3: the road.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, before we talk about Blood and Guts.
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  Speaker 1: Wait a second. You don't know who Tony Chimmel is either.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know who Tony Chimmel is. You don't know.
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  Speaker 3: What.
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  Speaker 2: Tony Chimmel is a... Isn't that a tool used for
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  Speaker 2: hanging pictures or something?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. We're just going to say Kelson was in a
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  Speaker 3: coma during the mid-90s through early 2000s and move on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. Unlike some people in the internet
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  Speaker 2: wrestling community, and I don't know what the hell I
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  Speaker 2: just said there. I think I said internet, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure. During the 90s, I was touching grass and
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  Speaker 2: other stuff. That's a lot. Anyway, some of you guys
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  Speaker 2: weren't even alive in the 90s. which is freaky. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: let's move on with the actual show. I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: hit you guys with something I thought would be fun
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  Speaker 2: to do in a very brief way. In the last
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  Speaker 2: six months, approximately the last six months, we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to say due today, but in about the last six months,
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  Speaker 2: who was the MVP or who has been the MVP
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  Speaker 2: of AEW? And I'm going to Val first.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: I knew you would start with me. I am undecided.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, damn.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got to pick one.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, Derby. It's not that complicated.
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  Speaker 3: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: You're also going to say I'm going to pick Penny.
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  Speaker 1: I would. if he was very, very consistent in being
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  Speaker 1: there every single week.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you're grasping the concept here. We want
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  Speaker 2: to know who you think is the MVP, not who
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  Speaker 2: you don't think is the MVP. I know.
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  Speaker 3: I understood.
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  Speaker 1: I understood the question. Okay. As much as I love Kenny,
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  Speaker 1: but He's not my MVP. It's going to be Jon Moxley.
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  Speaker 2: Jon Moxley. That's a good choice. Yes. I'm thinking you
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  Speaker 2: probably maybe took at least one person's pick away.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, Jess.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay. I have a backup.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but we're going to Chris first, so you may
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  Speaker 2: need two backups, Jess.
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  Speaker 3: Easy answer is Will Ostrich. Unless that's justice, in which
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  Speaker 3: case I'll go with my second pick. No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can't go with your second pick. You
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  Speaker 2: only get one pick. So, Jess, I mean, you're pretty
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  Speaker 2: much down to Brandon Cutler and, I don't know, Nick Wayne.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for taking both of my picks, guys. Really
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Now I'm on the spot here with an
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  Speaker 1: empty cupboard.
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  Speaker 2: That's what my mother used to tell me about my
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  Speaker 2: brain power all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Well, hey, I mean, Nick Wayne did beat Chris Carrico.
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  Speaker 2: Twice.
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  Speaker 3: Twice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a bomb going off sound effect.
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  Speaker 2: But go ahead, Jess. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I was going to say Jon Moxley, the ace of AEW.
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  Speaker 4: And that was taken. And then I was going to
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  Speaker 4: say Will Osprey because... Watching him blossom into a truly
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  Speaker 4: worthy world champion has been an absolute treat to watch.
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  Speaker 4: and then Chris took that from me. So I will
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  Speaker 4: probably just have to go out on a limb and
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  Speaker 4: say Mercedes Monet.
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  Speaker 2: That's fair enough. Fair enough. Is there a reason? Because
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  Speaker 2: you sound like you're going to expand upon that.
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  Speaker 1: No, just like.
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  Speaker 4: We saw her, like, go from, like, every belt in
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  Speaker 4: the world mode to losing them all in quick succession
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  Speaker 4: and pretty much, like, leaving the company in disgrace only
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  Speaker 4: to return, like, this.
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  Speaker 4: To borrow someone else who isn't here anymore as Monique,
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  Speaker 4: the woman from hell, just on this complete.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to say reinvention because she's Mercedes has
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  Speaker 1: got a Mercedes, but she's just been so good on it.
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  Speaker 1: She's been on an absolute rampage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you definitely don't talk in ellipses.
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  Speaker 1: I love that word.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to use it inappropriately and incorrectly all evening.
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  Speaker 2: So prepare yourselves. My pick, and I made this pick
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  Speaker 2: You know, I came up with the idea, so I
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  Speaker 2: made my pick well ahead of time, and none of
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  Speaker 2: you even mentioned this guy. My pick for the most
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  Speaker 2: valuable person in AEW is Tommaso Ciampa.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that is a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it. I mean, he's done everything. He's putting
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  Speaker 2: on fantastic matches. He's brutal as hell when he needs
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  Speaker 2: to be. He's funny as hell when he needs to be.
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  Speaker 2: He's the total package. He's like Lex Luger.
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  Speaker 4: And he's a great dad.
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  Speaker 2: And he's a great dad. And he's got, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one hell of a beard that pretty soon he's going
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  Speaker 2: to start using it as a weapon in Ring. I
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  Speaker 2: just know it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if If Tommaso Ciampa were any better of a father,
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  Speaker 1: he'd be Christian Cage.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. I just hope he, whatever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: my pick's Tommaso Ciampa. So let's move on. Let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about blood and guts. The men's blood and guts specifically.
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  Speaker 2: I've got the hiccups. I'm going to hold my breath
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  Speaker 2: for a while. Somebody sing something.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, guys, thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know what helps the hiccups, I just
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  Speaker 2: found out, is vomiting at bad singing. There you go. Anyway, so.
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  Speaker 2: How dare you. What do you guys think of the
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  Speaker 2: teams here? We're talking men specifically right now. We will
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  Speaker 2: be talking about the women's matches in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: One of the other things in the next segment we're
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  Speaker 2: going to be talking about is the incredibly insane schedules
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  Speaker 2: for Darby Allin, Jon Moxley, and Will Ospreay as of late.
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  Speaker 2: And they're all in this match. Well, not all in
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  Speaker 2: this match, but Jon Moxley is in Anarchy and Arena
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  Speaker 2: next weekend. So let's talk about the men's blood and guts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The Don Callis family has definitely had something of a
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  Speaker 4: resurgence as of late. A lot of the, well, not
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  Speaker 4: all of the, but a lot of the dissension.
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  Speaker 1: That seemed to be plaguing the group in the past
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  Speaker 1: couple of months seems to have mostly shaken itself out. Mostly.
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  Speaker 2: Mostly, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, mostly for Kyle Fletcher-shaped reasons.
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  Speaker 4: The other team is quite the aggravation of guys. They have, like,
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  Speaker 4: pairs of people who get along. and everybody loves will
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  Speaker 4: will is a golden retriever i've said this many a
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  Speaker 4: time um but can they like work as a cohesive
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  Speaker 4: unit do you think.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see why not i mean to me um
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  Speaker 2: the men's blood and guts seems like of course the
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  Speaker 2: don cowell's family is a is a team would you
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  Speaker 2: guys agree with that i mean they are a team
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  Speaker 2: i mean the only one that's kind of a Wildcard
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  Speaker 2: here may be Wardlow because he's just not wrestled that
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  Speaker 2: much in the last, what, year?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he's had less matches than Stephen Borden.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's from Ohio.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be fine.
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  Speaker 2: His hair grew back.
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  Speaker 3: And the Don Callis family is not a team. They're
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  Speaker 3: a family. They're a brotherhood.
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  Speaker 1: Just ask Okada. He'll tell you.
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  Speaker 2: Okada with that. Look at that shit-eating grin on his face.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: The man is a walking meme. There's just no other
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  Speaker 2: way to put it. The man is a walking meme.
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  Speaker 3: Ocon is the best. I love him. He is.
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  Speaker 2: I hate that people criticize him. Oh, he used to
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  Speaker 2: be one of the greatest wrestlers in the world, and
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  Speaker 2: now he's just a goofball. He's earned being a goofball.
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  Speaker 2: He can do whatever the hell he wants.
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  Speaker 3: He's having fun. And those are the people who only
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  Speaker 3: ever watch the big matches he was in. during, like,
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  Speaker 3: Road 2 shows and stuff like that, he was a
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  Speaker 3: goofball all the time. He would regularly do a springboard
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  Speaker 3: clothesline and yell, Scooby-Dooby-Doo!
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  Speaker 1: I remember him walking around carrying a balloon for no reason.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and dyeing his hair Kool-Aid red, just because.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, there are wrestling fans, and then there
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  Speaker 2: are pro wrestling fans. If you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Kazuchika Okada is a comedy wrestler doomed to be the
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  Speaker 1: greatest wrestler in the world. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of comedy wrestlers, and I don't mean this in
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  Speaker 2: a bad way at all, how about Stephen Borden? Basically,
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  Speaker 2: he comes out and says, I just got out of
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  Speaker 2: the hospital. How about some blood and guts? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: no preamble. He just called for it. I mean, okay.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that is just... Way out there. I did
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  Speaker 2: not expect him to be the one to say, let's
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  Speaker 2: do blood and guts.
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  Speaker 4: I say this with all the affection in the world.
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  Speaker 4: Someone obviously inherited the stupid sting genes.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. Are you implying that there was a
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  Speaker 2: stupid sting?
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  Speaker 3: The dude got turned on by 978 different people. Wait
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  Speaker 3: a minute.
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  Speaker 2: He got turned on by 978 different people.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you said? Well, 978 times. Lex Luger
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  Speaker 3: was like 200 of those.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Because I was going to ask you,
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  Speaker 2: my next question is, what were.
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  Speaker 3: These people doing to turn on Sting? Which braid, Bob?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so I was thinking dressing suggestively, maybe doing a
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  Speaker 2: lap dance on the ring post. I don't know. Okay. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that makes more sense.
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  Speaker 1: Sting is a good Christian boy. Come on.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but the people that are turning him on weren't, obviously.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm starting to see where these two literal
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  Speaker 3: sounds like AI comments came from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Which, by the way, this is how you do the
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  Speaker 3: Blood and Guts voiceover. One ring. No. I already screwed
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  Speaker 3: it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you screwed up.
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  Speaker 3: Just stop.
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  Speaker 2: Just stop. Because you don't get it. That's basically it
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  Speaker 2: right there. You've already failed your audition.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Just leave it to Dino Machino. He He does it
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  Speaker 1: best anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I can't believe you screwed that up
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  Speaker 2: on the first two words.
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  Speaker 3: I went Lord of the Rings for some reason. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 2: One ring to rule them all. Oh, my God. Two
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  Speaker 2: rings to bind them.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Anyway, let's talk some more about this match. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: is there anybody on either of these two teams that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you maybe would have replaced? somebody, you know, had a
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  Speaker 2: replacement for? Maybe somebody, it could be more to one person, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: that you would have rather seen in this match?
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  Speaker 1: I do.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Steven, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Do what?
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  Speaker 3: What did you replace him with, though?
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: You clearly did not think this through.
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  Speaker 3: I was... I had an idea in mind, and now.
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  Speaker 1: I lost it.
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  Speaker 2: Was it Kenny?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: No, no. He's done enough.
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  Speaker 2: Speedball?
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  Speaker 3: Speedball.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: Mina Shirakawa? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a scheduling thing, but I would take out
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Cope and Steve, maybe, and either Steve or Darby. But
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I guess Steve wouldn't really work without Darby. and put
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: in Speedball and Andrade instead. That's what I want. Andrade
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  Speaker 1: yeah good idea.
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  Speaker 2: Copeland for me is the one that doesn't make that
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  Speaker 2: much sense yeah you know because he I have to
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: be honest with you Osprey doesn't make sense other than
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: he's the world champion you know and he's insane.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And he should have been there, in my opinion.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Right. But I don't know who I would replace Copeland with.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe Andrade. But it's got to be somebody that can
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: do a blood and guts match. You know, that's the thing,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you know, because blood and guts is not a match,
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: you know, where you can fake it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Andrade and Steve Ball were great, but
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I don't think either one of them has a lot
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: of experience in those kinds of matches where Cope absolutely does.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: And obviously, Gordon doesn't, but everyone needs their first one.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: And in a match like this, the other people can
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: help him out in how to work it, cover up
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: his flaws, and that kind of stuff.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: You know, if I was to take Copeland out, you
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: know who I'd put in is Swerve. I'd put Swerve in,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: even though he doesn't He's not a babyface, but he's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: neither a heel either. He's kind of a tweener still,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: I would say, but he would be good in that match.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: He would be good in that match.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I would put Hangman.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Could be Hangman too, yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Okay. How is Swerve not a heel? He literally beat
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: the crap out of Bandito and left him bloody, all
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: because Hangman wouldn't give him a Texas death match.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Bandito is a wanted man. He was doing legal services.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I don't see... Swerve being officially deputized by anyone.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even think he has his bounty hunter's license.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, if it was Brian Keith who did that, sure,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: but Swerve, he's just going out there like a vigilante.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we're talking in ellipses now, so let's
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: move on, because I do want to talk about Darby Allen,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Will Ospreay, and Jon Moxley. You guys brought up Darby
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Allen and Will Ospreay for their insane work schedules. Well,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I added Jon Moxley in here because he's had an
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: insane work schedule since he joined AEW. I mean, basically
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in the last, what, especially in the last, what, two years?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: He's been on every show doing incredible amounts of work.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Some people like his work. Some people don't on a
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: consistent basis. But, you know, can't fault the guy for
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: going out there and doing his job and he's doing
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it he's got more face time on AEW than any
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: other wrestler or commentator probably so over the last couple
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: years but what do you think about Darby Allin, Will
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Ospreay and Jon Moxley is there a time when they're
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: just going to have to say hey we need a
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: couple of months off to mend and to recharge the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: old you know, the old ellipses. What do you think?
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Mox definitely does. I think he's been trying to go
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: on vacation for years.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it just seems like, but even Tony Khan
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: has said he's there at every show and he wants
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: to be there. You know, John Moxley says he wants
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a vacation, but I don't think he wants a vacation.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Does that make any sense?
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, I want to go on vacation,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: but he keeps finding reasons not to. It's like, dude,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: you could take two weeks off, but instead you show
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: up even when you're not booked, you go do indie
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: shows on the weekends, you go work New Japan shows,
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: you know, a few times a year. Like, you could
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: take two weeks off, dude.
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: I wish he would, not because I don't like having
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: him around. He's probably my favorite wrestler, and I adore him,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: but I don't want him to miss his life. I mean,
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Nora's not going to be a cute little girl forever.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, she's probably going to be cute the rest
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: of her life. She's got great genes, but.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean. She's not going to be
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: a little kid forever, and I don't want him to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: miss that.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: It's not only that. I don't want him to burn out,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you know, simply being. I don't think that Moxley's the
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: type that would burn out, but, you know, if he
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: takes a break, say, three weeks off from AEW. He's
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: going to be wrestling on the Indies, and he's going
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to be wrestling on, you know, that glorified Indie program. Well,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: I'll MJF it. That New Japan Indie show. And, you know,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it's just one of those things.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: He already has the match for Wrestle Kingdom.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yep. What? Who's he going against? Tango. Yeah. Yeah. Shingo Takaki. Well, God.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I'm mad at him because by the time that match
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: goes on, Natsupoi, his wife, will have been retired. And
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: that just does not sit well with me.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: They're wrestling a tag match together coming up soon.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, they are.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Actually, a few of them.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Natsupoi is really going out wrestling a
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: lot of dream matches, to be honest with you. And, man,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I'm going to miss her.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: Just.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: One of the best to ever do it. Honest to God.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Really am.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Really.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: One of my favorites. But anyway. Yeah, and then you got...
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Look at Darby Allin. I mean, what has he done? He's...
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: In the last week, he's wrestled in Arena Mexico. He's
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: run the New York City Marathon. I think he ate
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Taco Bell and held it for five minutes. Then he's doing.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: Did I miss something? That he's doing blood and guts.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just like, it's insane.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: He wrestled Wednesday night, then did Arena Mexico, then did
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: the New York City Marathon. I mean, all of that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: was in the span of like four days. Darby's one
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: of those, not only does he wrestle a lot, but
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: he does a lot of stuff away from wrestling. I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: the man climbed Mount freaking Everest. Come on now.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Well, I just saw a video of him. I don't
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: know when it was taken, but I assume it was yesterday.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Because he was like going up like a skateboard ramp
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: and doing a jump on a, like a souped up
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: tricycle or something. I don't know. Oh yeah. I, it's just,
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's just constantly doing stuff. Then Will Ospreay,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: he was in, I mean, how many times he wrestled
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in new Japan, right?
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Literally this morning.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And he's on his way back for, um, on Monday,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: on Monday, he was in, in, uh, in England doing,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: he's a co-producer with Dan Reed for Pro Wrestling Eve.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: He did that, producing that show. He was on hand
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: for that. It's just insane what these guys are doing.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: And then after Blood and Guts, he's right back to
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: England for another Eve show. Yeah. It's just, the schedule
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: these guys are keeping is crazy. And There is worry
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: about burnout when you keep that kind of schedule.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: And I get it.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: All these guys are hard workers. They love wrestling. They
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: want to give the fans the best show possible. But
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: there is a certain point where you have to take
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: care of yourself. And sometimes you just need a week
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: off to do absolutely nothing.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, because I just had one of those weeks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I actually had three of them in a row. Anyway,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: but it's obviously you have to look at the types
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: of matches. They're not doing these, you know, technical matches.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: They're out there doing these insane... We all know that
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Darby Allin is insane. Jon Moxley is doing Anarchy in
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the Arena. Will Ospreay is also doing Blood and Guts
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: with Darby Allin.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: And this is not unusual for them. These are the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: types of, they're not doing these, you know, catch-as-catch-can, you know,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: street wrestling matches. They're doing uber-physical stuff.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah. I mean, Moxley and Shingo in their tag
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: match this morning, they beat the crap out of each other.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: You know, Ospreay, he was in an IWGP heavyweight tag
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: title match. And the Knockout Brothers, well, they're named that
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: for a reason.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I just hope that they can stay
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: healthy because I almost pull a hamstring just watching them.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It's utmost respect for them.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to the women's. That's not the women's.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: There you go. There's the women's blood and guts. Now,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: this is an interesting thing to me because you have
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: sisters of sin have had problems with divine dominion. Wrathlander
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and the Brawling Birds are facing each other at full gear, right?
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: It's Queen Aminata and Persephone. Of course, they just had
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: their match. But I don't know. This match in particular
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: looks like something could break down within the teams themselves.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: The allies may become their worst enemies.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think there needs to be some miscommunication
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: and a little infighting with Wrathlander and Brawling Birds. Right now,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: that pay-per-view match, it has almost no heat, and it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: just kind of, all right, this is probably just another
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: team that the Brawling Birds are going to beat before
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: they lose it back to either Sisters of Sin or
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Divine Dominion.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking for betrayals on both sides, to be
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: honest with you.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I want mayhem. I want absolute, gory, violent mayhem. I
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: want the teams to fight each other. I want the
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: teams to fight amongst each other. I just want blood.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Also guts. Yeah, there's simply not enough guts in a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: blood and guts match. I have to complain to Tony
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Khan about that. I want to see intestines on the floor.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: You want to see people get a lipsy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, I do. Let's lipsy them like crazy. Yeah. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: don't know why my Amazon Echo just asked me what
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: they wanted me to do to a lipsy. Did you
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hear that?
• 31:15
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I was wondering who.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Was saying that. I'm like, whoopsie.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, we can ellipsy, but you gotta tell me what
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: you want me to do. Here we go. How can
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I help you ellipsy? Who do you want to ellipsy? Well,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: it's Jess. Amazon, I want you to ellipsy Jess.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Whoa, that sounds very.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I am married, sir.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: But... Goddamn.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: The echo is female, so... But anyway... You know, I
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: think I mentioned this last week. When you look at
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: these two teams, look on the left. Look on the left.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: This year, how many people on the left-hand side, meaning
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: the heel team, have been injured? I really can't think
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: of anybody. I mean, I know Julia Hart and Sky
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Blue were injured, but I think they came back last year.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I see where you're going with this. Jamie Hayter is like,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: The female Jay White when it comes to injuries.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Queen Aminata was out. I believe, right? Wasn't she out?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Didn't she have an injury?
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: A brief one. Harley's been out. Willow's been out.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going to be honest with you. I
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: kind of don't think that, based on the history, I
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: don't think the Brawling Birds and Rathlander are going to
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: make it till tall to full gear. I just don't
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: see it because they're glass cannons.
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: I sincerely hope you're wrong.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Why do two? I don't want them to get injured,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: but I mean, the record speaks for itself. I mean,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: anytime they get in the ring, somebody gets hurt. And
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: when you got six in the ring from that one
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: side and four of them are hurt quite often. I mean,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: even Willow just came back from an injury.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: It is really interesting that a lot of these women
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: were in last year's blood and guts match.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Right. They were.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: The only people... Mina Shirakawa was last year. Mercedes Monet,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Toni Storm. Was that it? Queen Aminata was originally scheduled
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to be in last year, but she got injured.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it was Mina who took her.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Right, but Chris Dattler, Harley Cameron, Willow.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: The Heels team is literally the same, except swap out
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Mercedes with Persephone.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: Right, I think you're right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, and Lena Cross with Marina Shafir.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That's true, that's true, yeah. But, I don't know, it's
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: just weird. I think that this match... One thing I
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: noticed about both the men's and the women's blood and
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: guts is that last year, especially on the women's side,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: they really built toward this match incredibly. For like months,
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: they just kept having match after match pointing toward the
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: blood and guts. This year, they were just like, they
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: pointed and said, you, you, you, and you get in
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: there and show us some blood. You know, basically.
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, last year's blood and guts felt like
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: they were built up pretty well, where this year feels like, Okay,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: we've got to do Blood and Guts. We'll figure out
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: the teams later on.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if they made an announcement meeting AEW,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: but I have seen nothing. I have seen nothing regarding the,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: what do you call it, the advantage matches, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: determining who has the advantage in Blood and Guts. Have
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: you seen anything about that?
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: No, and those should have happened last week, because how's
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: it going to happen again? There's no time for it
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: to happen now.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: Rock, paper, scissors, I guess.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, we're going to have a big contest,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you know. Tomorrow night on Dynamite, rock, paper, scissors. Yeah.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen a couple people mention it, you know, online, saying,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: how are they going to do this?
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: I guess it's going to be a random draw or something.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Unless they do something like, for example, on the women's
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: side at Britt Baker versus Mina Shirakawa and the winner
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: of that match, Mina Shirakawa represents the faces, Britt Baker
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: represents the heels. The winner of that match, you know,
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: early on on Dynamite, they get the advantage. I don't know.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, there have been no other matches announced for
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Dynamite because in theory, I think both of these matches
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: have no time limit.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Right. And last year, Chris, the men's, and I may
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: be wrong, but the men's match went about 54 minutes
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: and the women's match went about 49 minutes. And there
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: was only one other match last year, and that was
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Hangman versus Powerhouse Hobbs. And even that was a no-holds-barred match,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: That's right. Last year was a super violent, crazy show.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, when the come-down match is a no-holds-barred match
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: between Hangman Adam Page and Will Hobbs, you know you're
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: doing something. I don't know.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: It's a night for the sick of it.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: It's a night for the... I mean, even though there's
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: not been really a build for this, I'm really looking
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: forward to it because Blood and Guts has, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: historically been really fun matches.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Me too.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I am a massive sicko.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I want blood. I want a recreation of that once
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: from Invincible.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: You know the one.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Invincible? Is that the one where that guy, the bartender,
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: tries out for the Philadelphia Eagles?
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: Technically, yes, but there is another show called Invincible.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: It's a superhero deconstruction show, and there's a very famous
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: scene where one of the characters gets horribly eviscerated during
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: a fight.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, and that's what you want to see. Very good
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: for you. I'm very proud of you for that.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You're the one who said you wanted to see more guts.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I'm the one that said that I'm very proud of you.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Good for you.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you. I thought you were being facetious there
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for a second.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Oh, another word I got to look up in the dictionary.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: I was about to say, he doesn't even know what
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: that means.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what eviscerated means, and I don't know
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: what whatever you just said means, because I can't pronounce it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Ask Alexa.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not going to do that. Anyway, let's move on.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about Kyle Fletcher. Kyle Fletcher, a
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: lot of people have been saying, we did a poll
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: on the AEW Fan Hub community, not just on the subreddit,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: but also on Instagram and X and Facebook, and we
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: asked who do you think will eventually take the title
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: off of Will Ospreay? And a lot of the people
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: answered Kyle, Kyle Fletcher. And of course they are meeting
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: at full gear. And I don't want to get into
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the full gear thing too much because next week we
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: will be doing our full gear preview and prediction show. So, but,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Even if Kyle Fletcher loses at full gear, that doesn't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: mean that that's not going to be the beginning of
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: a story and he can't win the title later on.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Do you feel that Kyle Fletcher will be the world
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: champion by, I don't know, say March of next year?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I'd say that's probably a pretty good projection. I don't
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: think it'll happen at the upcoming pay-per-view, but I do
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: think it will in the future.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Anybody else?
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Val?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Chris?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I do think it'll happen in the future, but I
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: don't think it'll happen by March of 2027. I see
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: it maybe around this time next year.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say April, and I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was going to be like, dude, it's something. 30 days later.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I say it happened in February. No, I think maybe
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: full year of 2027 is possible. And I don't think
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: he's going to take it from Will Ospreay.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: I was just about to ask you, who do you
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: think he's going to take it from then?
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: MJF?
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: It's possible.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: MJF's not a bad pick. I could see him, you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: he loses the match at full gear. Then, you know,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: maybe he loses a national title match against Andrade. And
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Don Callis starts getting a little fed up and starts
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: treating him poorly. And that kind of sets Kyle Fletcher off. And,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe around March we get that face turn.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: That's the other thing. So you think if it is MJF,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher is definitely going to be the babyface of this.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Actually, you know what? Have MJF and Kyle Fletcher faced
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: each other since the Aussie Open versus Better Than You
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Bay Bay days?
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see that.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the only thing is that I really think And
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: I know I'm probably not going to win brownie points
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: with people for this, but I actually enjoy the, he's
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: our scumbag baby face MJF more than the heel. MJF.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: He's a very endearing face. I love it.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: I still will say that some people would disagree with me,
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: but others will agree with me that that's probably one
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: of my favorite stories ever told in AEW.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: What's that the better to do baby.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah and I would love to see it resolved somehow
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: like even if Adam Cole can't wrestle anymore if they
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: could like maybe if he did something managerial or at
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: least had them like had a couple of segments together
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: I would love to see that just resolved in a
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: happy way.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Adam Cole that brings MJF out of his
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: out of his I guess a-hole phase that he's going through.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Right now yeah that story was so ridiculously fun those
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: two guys were fantastic together.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: The chemistry was incredible yeah they were they were so
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: entertaining so much fun.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: That promo that mjf cut um the one that ended
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: with uh i am ready to be your scumbag that
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: still brings tears to my eyes it's a really good promo.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they had a lot of good promos,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: even like when MJF told Adam Cole that, you know,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: a title shot wasn't enough. It had to be a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: title shot at the main event at Wembley. That was
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: really cool.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: You know, a face MJF versus a heel Kyle Fletcher
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: at next year's Tool Gear would be really interesting.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you never know. Kyle Fletcher
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: is so talented. I mean, we really haven't seen him
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: in his current iteration as a baby face. It would
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: be interesting to see him as a baby face. It
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: would be interesting to see him joining back in together
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: with United Empire. Because can you imagine him and Will
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Osprey as a team together?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: He'd have to grow his hair back out.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Nah, nah. But anyway, let's move on. Val, you've been
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: kind of silent back there. Are you still with us?
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I am.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: She's sleepy. But I want to move on.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I want to talk.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: About Swerve and the new level, otherwise known as the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: New Order. Not to be confused with the New World Order.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I always call them the New Order. So
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try not to call them the New Order,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: even though I've done it like four times already now.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: The new level, Swerve. Do you think... Do you think
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: the new level is in on it? I hope not.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Val?
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think so. If they are, they are doing
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: a fantastic job of keeping this close to the vest. Yeah,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, would you have a problem with the new,
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: I will say, with the new level turning like mega heel? No.
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: I would this early, maybe not later, but people still
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: want to cheer them. They just got here.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my feeling on it too. It's too early
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: for them, and they're so good as faces. Like, it
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: made sense to turn Champa heel relatively soon after he debuted,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: because he is such a good heel.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: It just looks like a heel.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not that he's a bad face, he just works
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: so much better as a heel, where New Level... They
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: work better as faces. Like, they're fun. They're funny. They're enjoyable.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: They're nice. They're cool. Like, I don't want to boo
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: those guys. I want to boo Swerve. Swerve is an asshole.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Swerve menaced a toddler. Not even a toddler. A baby.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: He broke into Hangman's home so he could menace his
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: infant child. That is not someone who should.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Ever, ever, ever be teared again. I want to ask
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: you a question in all seriousness. How many babies do
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: you know break into people's houses and threaten assaults on
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: other babies?
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: None.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: They're babies. They can't move on their own.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: There you go. That was a bad analogy, man.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: He's like the baby is like super defenseless.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Like yeah swerve come come here you know google gaga
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: crawl toward me i just kick him in the head
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: and that's it you know match over then i get
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: arrested for assaulting a baby you know.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: You're cutting the promo on this baby.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah this is like Only an evil person cuts a
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: promo on a baby. Swerve has never been the good guy.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: He deserved to have his house burned down.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: He knows.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: Wasn't it his mama's house to boot?
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was his mama's.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he deserved to have his mama's house burned down.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: His childhood home.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Well, his mama raised him, so maybe she deserved it too. Okay, actually,
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: that was way too far. I apologize. I did not
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: mean that at all.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Hey, I think Swerve's mama is more capable of defending
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: himself than defending herself and Hangman's baby.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: That is very true. And it's not like they were
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: in the house. If they were in the house, that
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: would be... I mean, Hangman would be in jail.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, I mean, he technically should be in jail.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: He should be in jail. He should be in jail.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: For grand arson. And then Sasha Swerve for breaking and entering. So,
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Technically, there's not.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Crimes don't matter.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the truth, because if you were looking at
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: true crime, everybody on the AEW roster would be in jail,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: and only WWE would exist, because those are some goody-two-shoes
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: wrestlers over there.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, Swerve is absolutely psychotic, and they did not
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: believe it, except now that they've seen Swerve completely.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's... Maybe Dito. It's like... You got to think
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: new levels starting to be like, man, I don't know
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: about this guy. Like, he might be a little crazy.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: What was his name in? What was Swerve's name in WWE?
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: I can't remember.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, they let him keep Swerve.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but wasn't his first name like, I want to
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: say Isaiah or something. I don't know.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: He was Swerve something else, but there was always Swerve
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in the name.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. By the way, Jess, you really do need
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to remember your headset next week because your audio sucks.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: You're way off. Anyway, I mean, this is kind of
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: interesting in that I really don't know what's going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: happen here because I agree with Chris. I mean, the
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: new level are so likable. But so is Swerve. Even
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: though he does nasty things, he's so likable, though.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: Okay, I just looked it up. He was Isaiah Swerve Scott.
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought. I knew it was Isaiah Swerve something. Well,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: now this may be an unpopular opinion, but unlike the
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: new level, I personally think that Ilya Dragunov has heel
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: written all over him. What do you guys think? And
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: what do you think of his return to wrestling in AEW?
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Enjoying it.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he has to be a heal either.
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: A face who won't completely destroy you and then make
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: conductor motions about it guy. I want to cheer this
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: guy as much as I want to cheer the new
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: level right now. He can turn heel later.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: I don't really understand the face behind him being a heel.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, he looks like a James Bond villain. Like,
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: it is what it is. I see him as one
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: of those more gray area types. Like, against the really
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: bad heels, he's going to be the default face. But
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: when he faces more faced wrestlers like Speedball, he may
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: get a little bit more of a heel reaction. And
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: I kind of like that for him. I think you
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: don't want a lot of people in that gray area.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: You want more clearly defined faces and heels, but you
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: need some wrestlers occupying that gray space between, and Ilya
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: Dragunov is perfect in that role.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: He strikes me as the kind of guy who drinks
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a cup of tea with his pinky out, but if
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: he sees you not doing it, he will break your pinky.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to ask you guys, now that you've
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: seen Ilya Dragunov in AEW, two questions. One, who would
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: be a good tag team partner for Ilya Dragunov? The
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: second one is, Down the line, what would Ilya Dragunov's
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: first title be? Whether it's a tag title or, I mean,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: there could only be one tag title. So whether it's
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: a tag title with his partner or if it's one
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: of the singles belts, which ones? I mean, there's been
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: some talk of him joining, entering the C2 even. And
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that's coming up pretty soon, guys. I believe so.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: He's the one to the throne, Mux.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: It's been a full year. We need something new and
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: he's the guy to do it. That's possible, sure.
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: I think Swift is the guy to dethrone Mox, but
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I would love to see Dragunov in the C2. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I think if he makes it to the semifinals and
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: has just an absolutely crazy, brutal match, say, against Moxley,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: he can still lose and still look strong and good
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: and have a great tournament life. I think that's where
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: he's at now. And then I think a few months
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: down the line, he could easily take the national title.
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm thinking. I'm looking at the national title
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: mostly for Dragunov right now. That's my thought anyway.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same for me. As far as tag team partners,
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: that's a hard one, honestly.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: You know the name that came to mind right when I,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: because I didn't think of this question until we actually
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: started this segment. But the name that came to mind
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: for me is Buddy Matthews.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Ooh, I love this.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Ying and Yang, kind of. You know, they're both the same,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: but they're so opposite as well.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: That would actually be really interesting and a lot of fun. Like,
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: thinking of some of the tag teams they could have
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: matches with. Dude, them against Rotito.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, boy.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: Them against FTR would be a lot of fun. Them
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: against Gates of Agony. That's the match I want to see.
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: Them against Divine Dominion.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: Because last odd collision, they had Divine Dominion in action
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and the Hurt Syndicate in action on the match card.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: And there were so many people that were like, I
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: thought it was going to be Divine Dominion versus the
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Hurt Syndicate.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: No. No.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: To find a minion would kill them. Oh my god.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I just couldn't believe people actually thought that. I made
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: a joke out of it. I actually made a post
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: out of like, okay guys, who wins this? You know, so.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: This is true. This is true. But anyway.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Ilya Dragunov. I had never seen him wrestle before. What?
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: I said, isn't he amazing? I love watching him.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: He's so good.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Very good.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's very athletic. You know the thing about Ilya
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Dragunov that I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around?
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: is that he looks small. He looks small, but he's not.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: But he looks small. It's just weird. I don't know.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: That's the only way I can explain it.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: He's German-sized.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: German-sized.
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: Okay. All I know is that that robe in the
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: picture is like the greatest Santa Claus robe ever.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: That really is. Yeah. It looks like It looks like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: an old rug that was made into a robe to me.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: It's a fancy old rug, but it looks like, or
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: it could be a curtain. It could be a curtain
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: for my grandma's house.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Hey, your grandma had good taste.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I never met my grandma. Either of them. But anyway,
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: so I don't know what kind of taste they had,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: but I bet on other people's grandma's houses. There you go. Yeah.
• 54:46
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• 54:51
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• 55:42
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