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S2E1 - 'The Door to Freedom' · Dished at Birth

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Kara: How are you?
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Oh my God, we're back.
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Dani: We're back, guys.
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Kara: Thank you for waiting all this time.
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Dani: Yeah, we had to take some time off.
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Kara: We did some travel.
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Dani: We're busy.
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We're busy people.
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Kara: We're busy girls, it's true.
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Dani: But I missed this.
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Kara: I did.
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I did too.
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Dani: I was really excited to sit down and watch the episode today.
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Kara: Me too.
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It was a good episode.
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Dani: It was a very good episode.
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Kara: Really set the scene for, I guess, the rest of the season.
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Dani: I don't know what was happening to my Disney Plus, but it dropped me,
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like, in the middle of the episode.
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Kara: It said bye.
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Dani: And I was like, "Hold on, everyone's hair is different. What's going on?"
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And then I realized, and I rewound, but-
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Kara: Bay's hair is much longer.
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Dani: Yeah, it looked really good though.
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Kara: Gorgeous.
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Dani: Gorgeous, gorgeous.
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I have to tell you about the dream I had.
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Kara: Oh, that's right.
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Dani: I remembered today.
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Okay, I had a dream.
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You- do you ever have the classic I'm on stage or I'm in a play and
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I don't know any of my lines dream?
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Does that ever happen to you?
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Kara: I'm sure I have.
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Dani: Did you do theater as a kid?
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Kara: Nope.
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Dani: Okay.
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Sorry that I wasn't sure.
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'Cause I don't have, like, sports dreams.
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I don't know if you've ever had, like, a-
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Kara: No, I never had, like sports dreams.
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I, my school nightmares are always, like, I had a, I have a test and I
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didn't realize and I didn't study.
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Or like I, I ha- some- I still have these, but, like, I have a dream
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that, like, I actually didn't graduate high school, and now I have to-
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Dani: Yes.
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Yes.
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Or, like, it's the end of the semester, and someone's like,
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"How's that math class going?" Yes.
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And I'm like, "What math class?" And I haven't been the whole time, and
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I, like, show up, and they're like, "You have 34 incomplete assignments."
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Kara: Yes.
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I still get them.
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Dani: I get those all the time.
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Kara: And I'm almost 30.
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Dani: Yeah.
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So.
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Yeah.
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No, this was… I get ones where it's like, hey, you're in this play that
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you've known about for a long time.
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Kara: Oh, go on.
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Go on.
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Dani: And I'm like, oh, my God, and it's, like, half, like, I don't
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know my lines and half the shame of, like, I've forgotten, too.
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So I'm underprepared.
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So this version- this version of this dream was you being like, we need a
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hearing person in this completely deaf production of a play that I'm working on.
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Kara: It sounds like something I would say.
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Dani: Right.
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And, and w- like, we need you to be, we need the person
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to be hearing for X reason.
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Like, it made sense in the thing, but you were like, anyway, just go out there.
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And I was like, "What do you mean?" And you were like, "We're not gonna
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give you a script for some reason.
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And also we're not gonna, like, practice at all."
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Kara: So just ad lib it?
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Dani: So just, like, ad lib it.
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Kara: Okay.
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Dani: So then I'm on stage, and then you and, like, three people that
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I've never seen before and then the actress that plays Principal Rose are
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sitting, like, behind, like, the table that sometimes, like, directors are
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sat at in rehearsals, but the- mind you, there's a full audience, and you
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guys are all signing at me what I'm supposed to be saying in the show.
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Kara: Wow.
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Okay.
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Dani: But I can't understand you.
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Kara: Do you know sign in this dream?
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Dani: Yeah.
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But I, like, can't see you close enough.
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And then there's people on stage doing things, and I'm just there.
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Kara: That is stressful.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: And I'm sorry I did that to you.
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Dani: Yeah, it was fucked up.
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And even in the dream I was arguing with you, being like, "This feels
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not like a good decision." And you were like, "No, no, trust me."
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Kara: I have a vision.
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Dani: Yeah.
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So yeah, your vision involved me being brutally shamed by the audience.
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Kara: Maybe you wronged me and I wanted to do it back.
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Dani: I wronged dream you?
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Kara: Maybe.
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Dani: Maybe.
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Kara: I also wanted to share two things.
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One, everyone, I got glasses, which is really ironic because in the last episode,
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season one, episode three, I said my worst nightmare was getting glasses.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: And then truly, a few weeks later, I went to get a vision test, and then
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they said, "You need glasses," and then I fell to my knees, but it's fine.
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Dani: Didn't they say that you could power through?
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Kara: Yes, but once I put them on, I was like, "Wow, they actually really help."
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Dani: Have you considered contacts?
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Kara: No.
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I don't wanna stick my fingers in my eyes.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: They scare me.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: You do contacts, right?
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Dani: Yeah.
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I could not see you right now if not for the things in my eyes.
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Kara: I know.
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Yeah, I don't know.
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I have like a baby, baby prescription, but- I just-
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Dani: I also don't wear my glasses for sensory reasons.
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Kara: Mm. If I wear them for a long time, they do hurt my ears 'cause I have a bunch
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of shit going on, on my ears already.
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And then the second thing I wanted to mention was I got a new
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audiologist, and I went to see her for the first time on Thursday.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: And I go in.
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When I filled out the form many months ago, I think I got this
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audiologist in, like, June, and the appointment was for September
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17th, whatever that Thursday was.
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Dani: Damn, long wait.
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Kara: But I wanted it for after I came back from traveling.
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So I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna set it for that time."
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And they asked if I wanted an interpreter, and I was like, "Sure." But I didn't think
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they would actually do it, but they did.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: Which was impressive.
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An interpreter was there waiting for me.
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Great.
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Dani: Great.
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Kara: I go in.
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Audiologist is nice, and then the mapping for the, cochlear implants
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is in her tiny office, and it's the audiologist, the interpreter,
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me, and then an audiology resident.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: So it's like clowns in a little car.
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Dani: That's a lot of people.
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Kara: It's a lot of people in this small office.
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It was a little much, and we had to, like, configure the room in such a way
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that I could see the interpreter but also the audiologist at the same time.
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Dani: Mm-hmm.
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Kara: But then the resident was like, "I need to be near the computer."
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And I was like, "Okay." Okay.
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All right, girl.
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I kind of want you out of here, but fine.
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Dani: You know you can kick them out.
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Kara: I know, but at that point I already said yes.
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Dani: They make you feel so guilty though.
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Kara: No, they're like, "Please, it's for my education."
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Dani: "It's my credits."
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Kara: "It's for my education, please." I was like, "Okay, fine."
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And then Cochlear is such a narc because it tells you how, how many times a day
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you take it off your head, and then how long you have it on, on average every day.
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Dani: Wait, it tells you or it tells them?
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Kara: It's on, like, a computer.
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Dani: Snitch!
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Kara: Yeah.
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So the-
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Dani: Wait, that's your private data.
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Kara: Literally.
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So the audiologist is like, "So I'm looking at this, and it
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tells me you wear them less than four hours on average every day.
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Why is that?" And I'm like, "Well, I know another language, as you can tell, 'cause
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the interpreter is right next to you."
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Dani: Yes.
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Kara: And I was like, "I don't really need them all day 'cause my wife signs,
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and many of my friends sign, and I also work remote most days of the week,
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and I- I'm a programmer, so, like, I don't need to be yapping with people."
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: So those are all the reasons.
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And then she was like, "Naughty, naughty, bad, bad."
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Dani: What?
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Kara: "You have to wear them at least 12 hours a day." And I was like, "12?
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I'd rather kill myself."
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Dani: Also, what do you mean you have to?
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Kara: Yeah, so this is when I started challenging it.
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I was like, "So what do you mean by have to?" She was like, "It's for your ear."
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And I was like, "Is it for my ear's health? 'Cause the ears
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don't work. That's why we're here."
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Dani: I have some bad news for you about the state of the ear.
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Kara: Yeah.
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And she was like, "You have to wear them at least 12 hours a day.
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That's the recommended, because the more you wear them, the more
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we can increase the volume."
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And I was like, "So this has nothing to do with the health of my ear?
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I'm confused.
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And I've been doing this my whole life." And she was like, "But surely,
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don't you think your life would be easier if you had them on all day?" And
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I was like, "I have been doing that.
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I grew up doing that." "And it's overstimulating, and it hurts
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my head, and it makes me grumpy, and I'm tired all the time.
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I don't want that." And then she was like, "Okay, fine.
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You're an adult.
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I can't make you do 12 hours a day."
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Dani: What the fuck is this woman's problem?
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Kara: She was like, "Just at least bump it up a little bit."
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Dani: No.
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Fuck you.
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They're your ears.
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Kara: And then at that point, I was like, well, there's no use in fighting because
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I, I feel trapped in this tiny little room, and everyone's looking at me.
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Dani: Also, hopefully you've already decided, wow, I need
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to get a new audiologist.
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Kara: The thing is, she actually did a great map of my cochlear implants.
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'Cause I explained, I was like, "The reason I don't wear them so often is
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that they are so overstimulating and loud," and she actually did fix that.
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Dani: Okay.
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Kara: So I was like, "Okay, you did a great job."
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Oh, also when we were having this tiny little fight, I was like, "Do you have
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other clients who sign?" And she was like, "Yes." And I was like, "So you, you know."
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: So I'm confused, but this is Audiology 101.
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Like, I was talking to Sarit and some other Deaf friends about this, and they
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were like, someone was saying, like, "I have hard-of-hearing audiologist, like
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wears hearing aids, and he even tells me that I need to wear them all the time."
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It's like in Audiology 101 handbook.
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You need to be weird and ableist and all this about it.
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Dani: Oh my God.
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You're stronger than me.
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In that tiny little room.
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Kara: No, I wanted to go to the bathroom.
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I wanted to march out and go to the bathroom and like, take a break.
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I turned to the interpreter to kind of be like, "Can you believe this girl?"
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: But she was being too professional and, like, didn't really engage with it.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: And I was like, well, what's the point of having an interpreter
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if you can't, like, silently bitch?
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Yeah, so that's my, spiel from Thursday.
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Dani: I'm fucking sorry, dude.
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Kara: No, it's all right.
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Dani: That is so irritating.
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Kara: Story of our lives.
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It happens all the time.
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Should we actually get to the episode?
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Dani: Let's get to the episode.
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Kara: Season two, episode one, The Door to Freedom, which aired January 7th, 2013.
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Dani: Wow.
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In true fashion, I did not look up the painting.
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Kara: Of course you didn't.
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It's a Rene, it's a Magritte painting.
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Dani: Oh.
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Kara: You know, the surrealist artist?
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1933 painting.
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It's a window, and the window pane has been shattered, and there's
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shards of glass on the floor.
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And you can see a landscape through the window, but then also the
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shattered glass looks like it's been painted on and matches the
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landscape, kind of like puzzle pieces.
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I'll be honest, I had trouble tying this painting to the episode.
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Dani: I think they just wanted to do a Magritte 'cause they did one last time.
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Kara: Oh, right.
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The first one was This Is Not a Pipe.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: I'll give that.
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Dani: We can chalk it up to that.
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Kara: A little recap on where we left off.
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Angelo got $5 million from the trial, and there's a pregnant woman in the mix.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: Don't know what that's about yet.
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Daphne-
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Dani: Hmm.
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We know.
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Kara: We do know, but they haven't told us who it is yet.
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Dani: They haven't told us.
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Kara: Daphne and Chef Jeff are no more, and Daphne quit the kitchen job.
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Bay tried to drive off to Mexico, but Emmett came to rescue her.
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Dani: Yeah, we got the I will always come find you moment.
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Kara: We did.
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Dani: So cute.
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Kara: And then Travis is having issues at home and he's been sleeping at work.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: So that's a basic recap.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Also, the Kennishes got no money from that lawsuit.
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Kara: $1.
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Dani: $1.
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Kara: Later they say actually 66 cents-
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Dani: 66
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… Kara: 'cause of tax, which I think- I thought was funny.
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Dani: And then yeah, Regina and Angelo are still-
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Kara: Married.
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Dani: Now married.
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Kara: Yes, and she, I guess, is entitled to half the money.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: Okay.
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Dani: Angelo's insistent on that, but she has not-
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Kara: Yet
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… Dani: said yes.
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Kara: We start the episode, we're in the Kennish kitchen.
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There's a new Bay in town.
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Because she is up early, she made a fresh pot of coffee for the family.
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She got sticky caramel buns, and she is studying.
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Dani: And her hair looks fantastic.
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Kara: Her hair is beautiful.
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Dani: It's so long.
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Kara: It's grown, like, a foot longer.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Her hair grew, and then Daphne cut her hair, so it was… I was
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like, how much time has passed?
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Kara: Yeah.
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Dani: It's very unclear.
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They don't specify.
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Kara: No, they do not, but they're still in school.
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So it's the middle of the school year, I guess.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Which, what time, when did we-
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Kara: But then they said it's been six weeks since Daphne quit her job, so
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I think only six weeks have passed.
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Dani: Okay.
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Yeah, Melody did say that.
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You're right, later on.
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Kara: So it's been six weeks since-
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Dani: Shout out to Melody.
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She's really holding it down this episode.
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Kara: With the timeline.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: Yeah.
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Thank you, Melody.
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Daphne is also up early.
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She's doing, sort of a disordered eating phase right now.
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Dani: Yeah.
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She said, "What if we, what if we fucked up my life a little more?"
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Kara: I need to change my body so I can win back Chef Jeff.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: I just ran six miles-
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Dani: Yuck.
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Kara: Did 100 sit-ups and 10 pushups.
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Dani: The 10 pushups felt almost sad.
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Kara: Pushups are hard.
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Dani: They're really hard.
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I was just like, what's going on?
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They, it's not a well-balanced routine, I guess, is my point.
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Kara: Her arms are like twigs.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: Of course she can only do 10.
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Dani: I know, and she's not eating anything.
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Kara: No.
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Throughout the whole episode, people are offering her food, and she's like, "No."
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Dani: Yeah.
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Kara: "I'm good."
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Dani: She says, "I haven't been hungry lately."
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Kara: I get it.
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She's probably so sad.
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Dani: I know.
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Kara: And Regina's like, "What's that about?" And she's like, "Oh, you know,
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I'm just trying to get into shape."
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And then at the same time, we see her open her phone, and there
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are many, many green bubbles-
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Dani: [GROANS]
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Kara: of sending texts to Chef Jeff.
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Truly, it-
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Dani: Hurt my stomach.
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Kara: Yeah.
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Dani: But Regina's so clueless.
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She's, like, "waiting to hear from someone?" It's only been six weeks.
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Kara: You should know.
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Dani: You should obviously know.
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Kara: She still has her wrist brace on, too, so she's not working.
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Dani: Yeah.
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So she has time to pay attention.
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Kara: Yeah.
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Beep-beep.
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Someone's outside in the driveway.
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Dani: This was such a crazy entrance for Angelo for the whole season.
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Kara: I know.
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Dani: I- what kind of car was it?
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Like, a Porsche?
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It… Gorgeous car.
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He pulls up in, like, a vintage-
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Kara: Vintage convertible.
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Dani: Shiny convertible.
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Kara: It might be a Porsche.
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I think you're right.
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He pulls up to the driveway in a new whip he shows off to the whole family.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Everyone comes down.
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He's like, "Oh, look in the trunk of the car." He makes John do
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it, which is, like, kind of mean.
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Kara: He's trying to be like, "I- Look at me, I'm on your
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level now." It's so strange.
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Dani: It's very weird.
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Kara: Yeah, I don't get it.
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Dani: It's very weird, and he's, like, obviously rubbing it in,
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because the Kennishes got no money.
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Kara: One dollar.
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Yeah.
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It's… Okay, you all lost here.
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Like, I… You all are experiencing the same thing.
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Why is this, why is this the case?
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It made, it made me kind of hate him more.
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Dani: So he gets presents for every single person in the family.
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Kara: Yes.
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He gets-
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Dani: He gets, he gets Adrianna a watch.
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Kara: I assume, like, a Rolex watch.
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Dani: It's like a, yeah, it's like a, whatever.
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It's an unbranded box, but it's a nice watch.
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Kara: Mm-hmm.
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Dani: He gets… What, what does he get Regina?
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Does he get Regina?
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Kara: He doesn't get Regina anything here.
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Dani: Oh.
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I guess 'cause in theory… No, we find out later what he's-
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Kara: Yeah.
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Dani: Getting Regina.
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Kara: We'll get to that.
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But then he gets Kathryn a cappuccino maker.
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Dani: Cappuccino maker.
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Kara: Jonathan.
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John?
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Jonathan.
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Dani: John.
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Jonathan Kennish gets what I thought at first glance was a rock tumbler.
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It is actually a very nice telescope, which, like, why?
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Kara: Yeah.
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They never say he liked astronomy.
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Dani: Why would John care about that?
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But okay.
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Kara: Yeah.
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I guess he likes the stars or something, but I didn't understand what it was,
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so I wrote he got a fancy doodad.
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Dani: Yeah.
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Right.
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Kara: Toby gets-
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Dani: I really thought he was gonna tumble rocks.
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Kara: I thought it was, like, a carburetor or something.
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It was so confusing.
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Dani: What is a carburetor?
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Kara: Like, a car part.
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Dani: Okay.
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Honestly, makes more sense than a rock tumbler.
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Kara: Yeah.
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Dani: So I'm with you there.
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Kara: Toby gets three hours of studio time to record music with
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the producer of The Flaming Lips.
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Dani: Not to be like, "What does Toby have to do with any of this?"
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but why would Toby get a gift?
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Kara: I think he's just trying to get on everyone's good side.
15:12
Dani: Yeah.
15:12
Kara: And be like, "Wow, you rock," and-
15:14
Dani: But I'm like, damn.
15:15
Kara: Yeah.
15:15
Dani: Even Bay says later, like, "Can you believe I get
15:18
traumatized and you get a present?"
15:20
Kara: And she's right.
15:20
Dani: Yeah.
15:21
Kara: But Bay gets a gift.
15:22
She gets a letter from Frida Kahlo to Diego Rivera, and she holds-
15:27
Dani: Framed.
15:27
Kara: She's hugging it the whole episode.
15:29
Dani: Like a real one.
15:30
Unpopular opinion, those, I wouldn't want that.
15:34
That feels insane to keep in your private home.
15:37
Which she even said, like, "These, they don't even sell these anymore.
15:40
Like, they're all in museums." I'm like, yeah, probably for a reason.
15:43
Kara: Right.
15:44
Like, it should be for the public to see.
15:46
Dani: But then I kinda disagree about that too, actually.
15:48
Kara: Rich people love to hoard art, though.
15:50
Dani: Yeah.
15:51
Kara: Not saying it's a good thing, but.
15:52
Dani: No, I more mean, like, do we think that Frida Kahlo wanted her letters
15:56
on public view for people to see?
15:58
Kara: That's a great question, and the answer is probably no.
16:01
Dani: Yeah.
16:01
Kara: I would- they don't even say what the letter entailed.
16:03
Dani: No.
16:04
But I think about that a lot.
16:05
Kara: I'd like to think it was just something like, "Honey, can you
16:08
pick up some potatoes for dinner?"
16:10
Dani: Yeah.
16:10
Kara: But it's probably not.
16:11
Dani: Even that, though, I hope I'm never a prominent enough person
16:15
that people are trying to display my communications in museums after I'm dead.
16:20
Kara: Especially with someone you had a very tumultuous relationship with.
16:24
Dani: Yeah.
16:25
That shit's private.
16:26
Kara: Yeah.
16:27
I know Frida Kahlo was, like, very anti-capitalist, so she would
16:30
hate pretty much everything that's been, that's been done to her.
16:32
Dani: Yeah.
16:33
Kara: To her image, I mean.
16:34
Dani: Yeah, and especially would probably hate Angelo purchasing one of her letters.
16:39
I don't know.
16:40
Kara: Yeah.
16:40
Dani: I don't know.
16:41
Felt weird about it, but Bay's really happy about it, so yay for Bay.
16:44
Kara: Yeah.
16:46
And then Bay goes, "Oh, what'd you get for Daphne?" And then he's like, "Oh."
16:50
Dani: This was mean.
16:50
I know he immediately fixed it, but-
16:52
Kara: That was so mean.
16:52
She already has abandonment issues.
16:54
Why would you do that?
16:55
Dani: Has so much going on for him to be like, "Oh, I didn't
16:58
get you anything. I'm so sorry."
17:00
Kara: And he's like, "Wait a second. There is one thing. Follow me." And
17:04
they go to, I guess, the street.
17:06
Dani: A different part of the Kennish property.
17:08
I don't know.
17:09
Kara: And there's a food truck there.
17:11
Dani: Was it… Where do you think he got that giant bow?
17:14
Kara: It's funny, I didn't even notice the bow.
17:15
Dani: The bow is on it the whole time.
17:17
The bow doesn't come off later when they're using it.
17:20
Kara: Wow, okay.
17:21
Dani: It's like a comically large bow from a car commercial.
17:24
I guess the dealership.
17:26
I don't know.
17:26
Where the fuck do you buy a food truck to begin with?
17:29
Kara: You're asking the wrong person.
17:30
Dani: Yeah.
17:30
Kara: That's how I feel about when people have those giant scissors for openings.
17:33
Dani: Yes.
17:34
Kara: Where do you get those?
17:34
Dani: Where do you get that?
17:36
Or, like, how a giant check is, like, it costs $200 to make the giant check.
17:40
Kara: It does?
17:40
Dani: Yeah.
17:41
So it's like if you see them presenting a giant check for, like,
17:44
a lot of money, they took $200 out of that budget to make the check big.
17:48
Yeah.
17:49
Kara: The more you know.
17:50
Dani: Yeah.
17:50
Kara: We don't know where giant things come from.
17:52
Dani: The food truck stuff was very 2013.
17:55
Kara: It is.
17:56
And he's like-
17:57
Dani: 'Cause they're, they are overjoyed.
17:59
Like, I think in 2026, someone gives you a food truck, you're like, "What
18:03
a burden I've just been saddled with."
18:05
Kara: And that's what they should've said in this episode too.
18:07
Dani: Yeah.
18:08
To be fair, yes.
18:09
But they're all like, "This is iconic. This is amazing." And you gotta remember,
18:15
2013, the amount of festivals I went to where the whole point was just, like,
18:20
a bunch of food trucks pulled up, and there'd be thousands of people there,
18:23
and then we'd all sit around and eat food standing up in, like, a parking lot.
18:28
Kara: Yeah.
18:29
Like, you're trying to eat, like, a really messy plate of food.
18:31
Maybe you don't have a fork.
18:33
Dani: Yes.
18:33
Kara: Like, one napkin.
18:34
Dani: Yes.
18:34
Fusion.
18:35
Kara: You're at Smorgasburg.
18:37
Dani: Yeah, exactly.
18:38
Kara: You waited a half-hour for this food that is just only kind of good.
18:42
Dani: Yeah.
18:42
Kara: No, it's, like, such a visceral feeling to me.
18:45
Dani: In LA, there was a really big scene of, there still is, but I just
18:49
would never pay money to go now, the summer movie series, where, like, the
18:53
big pull for the movies is they'd be like, "And we have these 10 different
18:56
food trucks coming, so you can get food, and then you can bring it to your
18:59
blanket and sit and eat your food."
19:02
And it was, like, so, like, game-changing back in 2013 that that was a thing.
19:07
I don't know what we were doing before that.
19:08
Kara: I wonder what the trend was, 'cause you have to get, like, a health department
19:12
license to operate a food truck, so I wonder if the health department licenses
19:16
for mobile units started around that time, and then that's why they kinda blew up.
19:21
Dani: Yeah, I have no idea.
19:22
I feel like probably it was, like, Instagram.
19:24
Kara: It must've been something like that.
19:25
Dani: Yeah.
19:25
Kara: And also Instagram, for sure.
19:27
The parents, specifically John and Regina, seem quite apprehensive
19:31
about the food truck, rightfully so.
19:33
Dani: Yes.
19:34
And also just in general, Regina and John share a look because they're
19:38
both pissed for different reasons, I think, about the Angelo gift situation.
19:42
Kara: Yeah.
19:43
But Angelo's like, "Trust me, it's a great idea." Okay.
19:47
Dani: Trust me, who just met this girl, like, six months ago, it's a great idea.
19:53
Kara: You need a business license, and a health department permit,
19:55
and a food handler permit, but trust me, it's so easy.
19:59
Dani: It's so easy.
19:59
Kara: She can just sell food without a permit.
20:02
He doesn't actually say that, but I think that's what she does.
20:05
Dani: We don't really hear about the permit of it at all, I don't think.
20:08
Kara: Ever.
20:09
Dani: Yeah.
20:09
Kara: It's confusing.
20:11
Kathryn's supportive about the truck, though.
20:13
I think 'cause Daphne seems happy-ish.
20:15
She's, like, happy and nervous.
20:17
Dani: Yeah.
20:18
Kathryn's-
20:19
Kara: Kathryn's Kathryn.
20:20
Dani: Kathryn's Kathryn.
20:21
Kara: Now we're in Bay's room with Daphne, and Daphne asks
20:26
Bay, "So I'm-" This is crazy.
20:28
Yeah, go on.
20:29
Dani: I have a complaint, which is we don't see a lick of sign
20:32
language that entire opening scene.
20:34
Kara: Nobody signing.
20:35
Dani: Nobody signing anything.
20:36
Kara: Daphne may have not even known that food truck was for
20:39
her if someone hadn't told her.
20:40
Dani: The whole family's there.
20:41
No one signing?
20:43
Kara: You're right.
20:43
Dani: I know Regina can't.
20:44
I was just, like, waiting.
20:46
I was so excited to get back to it, and then I was like,
20:48
damn, we're really just… Okay.
20:50
Kara: Maybe 'cause Angelo's there, and he for sure doesn't sign.
20:53
Dani: Well, maybe he should spend some of his harder, hard-won
20:57
funds and take some classes.
20:59
Kara: Literally.
21:00
Dani: It's time, buddy.
21:01
Kara: That's a much better gift than a food truck.
21:03
Dani: Yes.
21:04
Oh my God.
21:04
He could've been like, "Here's my in-house sign language teacher-"
21:07
Kara: Literally
21:08
Dani: "who I've just hired to teach me."
21:10
Kara: That'd be amazing.
21:11
Dani: Whatever.
21:12
Yeah.
21:13
I think it's also 'cause he feels bad 'cause he punched out her boss/boyfriend,
21:18
and then she quit that job.
21:19
You know?
21:20
Kara: But didn't she quit the- Like, she quit first.
21:21
Dani: Yeah, but Angelo doesn't know that.
21:23
He knows that he showed up to Daphne's place of work, punched out her boss.
21:26
She no longer has that job.
21:27
Kara: Yeah.
21:27
One of the claims he has is like, well, you can be fully independent, and you
21:31
won't have to worry about no boss, no-
21:33
Dani: Yeah.
21:33
Kara: Yeah.
21:33
You don't have to worry about anyone firing or hiring you.
21:36
You can be your own chef and your own person.
21:39
And this I think is exciting and also she's a little trepidatious about it.
21:44
Dani: Yeah.
21:45
Kara: We're in Bay's room now.
21:46
Now we're finally doing some simcomming.
21:48
The simcom alert, I guess.
21:50
Daphne is like, "Wow, Angelo with all the gifts. Is he like richer than John
21:55
and Kathryn now?" My answer is no.
21:57
Dani: I just feel like we don't know.
21:59
Kara: Baseball players-
22:00
Dani: 'Cause Bay thinks yes, right?
22:03
Kara: But Bay doesn't really answer.
22:04
She just says, "Let me teach you about the concept of relative deprivation." Like
22:08
rich people- rich people love to compare what they have to other rich people.
22:13
Dani: And then claim poverty.
22:14
Kara: Yeah.
22:14
And then claim poverty.
22:15
Dani: But-
22:16
Kara: She doesn't really answer the question.
22:18
Dani: Yeah, but the way she says it makes it sound like, like 'cause Daphne
22:22
says, "Are they on the same level?" And Bay says, "No," in a way where to
22:27
me it seemed like she's interpreting Angelo as much richer than her parents.
22:31
But I would agree with you that I don't think that that's true.
22:33
Kara: No.
22:34
First of all, he made millions as a baseball player.
22:36
He has five businesses, and I'm sure he invested plenty of money.
22:40
Dani: And also they live in that gigantic fucking house.
22:42
Kara: And Angelo's spending, spending.
22:44
Dani: Yeah.
22:45
Kara: That 5 million is no more now.
22:47
Dani: Also, think of the legal fees, the taxes.
22:50
Kara: Do you pay taxes on-
22:51
Dani: Yeah
22:52
Kara: -something like that?
22:52
Dani: Yeah.
22:52
Kara: You get, yeah, you have to pay tax on that.
22:54
Dani: I am actually, I was quite stressed for Angelo this whole episode, 'cause
22:57
John is being snarky by being like he's gonna spend it all immediately.
23:01
But I'm like, no, he really is gonna spend it all immediately.
23:04
Kara: No.
23:04
Later when he talks about-
23:05
Dani: Especially later on.
23:06
Kara: When he talks about building that house, I'm like, that alone is, okay.
23:09
Dani: Yeah.
23:10
Kara: That's a lot.
23:11
But also in the same room, Daphne and Bay are also saying like, "Do
23:16
you think Regina's ever gonna accept the money from Angelo?" And Daphne's
23:20
like, "No, she'll never do it.
23:21
She doesn't wanna be some kept woman."
23:23
Dani: She would sooner cut off her hand than be a kept woman.
23:26
Kara: I missed that line.
23:27
Interesting.
23:27
Okay.
23:28
Dani: I was like, okay.
23:29
Well, she's not using it right now anyway, so.
23:30
Kara: She's literally not using it.
23:31
Might as well.
23:32
We're back in the Kennish kitchen, and John is like, "So the food truck,
23:36
that's gotta go, right? That's crazy."
23:39
Dani: Yeah.
23:39
Kara: It's just him and, Kathryn in the kitchen, and Kathryn's like,
23:42
"I'm just trying to be supportive. Also, you have a Porsche." Like.
23:46
Dani: Yeah, John, John's like, "Can you believe how he's spending that money?"
23:49
And she goes, "You want me to go put your golf clubs in your Porsche?" And
23:52
he says, "Hey, I earned that money."
23:55
Kara: Okay.
23:55
Dani: Stupid.
23:56
They're being dumb.
23:57
Kara: Yeah.
23:58
And as they're arguing, Bay and Toby are hearing this, and
24:01
then they walk to go to school.
24:03
It's still the morning.
24:04
I forgot it's, like, the crack of dawn.
24:06
Dani: Yeah.
24:07
I was tired just watching.
24:08
Kara: I know.
24:09
But now they're going to school.
24:10
Dani: This show is like Gilmore Girls.
24:12
Have you ever seen people complain about that?
24:15
Kara: They have the longest day in the world.
24:16
Dani: Yeah, try to figure out how they have so much time before Rory has to
24:19
leave to go an hour to her private school.
24:22
Kara: That's right.
24:23
Dani: But then they're both the type of people that would not be morning people.
24:26
Kara: No, they would sleep in.
24:27
Dani: So it's like, what fucking time is it?
24:29
Kara: No, you're right.
24:29
You're right.
24:30
I was gonna say maybe they have so much energy from all the food
24:33
they eat, but that food is not-
24:34
Dani: All the sugar?
24:36
It's all the coffee.
24:37
Kara: That's true.
24:38
It's the coffee from Luke's.
24:39
Dani: They're just never sleeping.
24:41
Maybe- Maybe they're both like that because they're both in the midst of
24:44
psychotic breaks 'cause they never sleep.
24:46
Kara: That could be.
24:47
Now we're at Carlton.
24:48
Daphne and Emmett are chatting outside, and she's telling Emmett about the gifts
24:52
that they just received from Angelo.
24:54
And Emmett is like, "Oh, I just heard about the letter. And I know about this
24:58
because Bay and I have been texting since I retrieved her from the Mexico border."
25:03
Dani: Yeah.
25:04
Kara: "We haven't been hanging out a lot, though. She's been
25:06
studying a lot," she says.
25:07
And-
25:07
Dani: Yeah, he said, "She keeps blowing me off to study." And Daphne's
25:10
like, "No, she's really studying."
25:11
Kara: "She's really studying, I promise."
25:12
Dani: Yeah.
25:13
Kara: Yeah, she, I guess, had an epiphany about doing street
25:17
art, and now she's studying.
25:18
I don't-
25:19
Dani: I don't-
25:19
Kara: They don't really explain.
25:20
Like, she doesn't say, like, "I wanna get into a good school," or-
25:24
Dani: She says to her parents, "I don't wanna be in the bottom 10."
25:27
Like, she's like, "I'm not gonna be top of my class, but I don't
25:30
wanna be in the bottom 10."
25:31
Kara: Great goal.
25:32
Dani: I guess great goal.
25:34
I wonder if she's like, "Whoa, I don't actually wanna be like Zarra."
25:38
Kara: That could be.
25:39
Dani: But the thing is, Bay, you go to a rich private school.
25:42
You were never gonna be like Zarra.
25:43
Kara: No.
25:44
Dani: You could, no matter what you do-
25:45
Kara: Well, she's not gonna be there a-
25:47
Dani: Yeah.
25:47
Kara: Much longer.
25:48
Dani: They were like, "We're getting tired of paying for two sets, so let's combine."
25:53
Kara: While the two of them are talking, a poor little hearing guy approaches.
25:58
And he tries to sign, w- not really tries to sign.
26:02
But he's like, "Sign up for classes in the office? Office where?"
26:05
Dani: Office where?
26:06
It's like he had a vague understanding of the syntax and, like, grammar
26:10
structure of sign language but doesn't actually know any sign language.
26:15
And so he was like, "Oh, I'll just speak."
26:17
Kara: Yes, and he speaks-
26:18
Dani: Like, wrong.
26:18
Kara: He speaks to Emmett.
26:20
He faces Emmett.
26:21
Dani: Yeah.
26:21
Kara: And then Emmett is lip-reading, and he's like, "Okay, sure,"
26:24
but he's not really helping.
26:25
Dani: Emmett's mean.
26:26
Kara: He's being mean as… It's kind of funny, but he's like "Just go
26:29
down to the left, to the right, and then that's how you'll get there."
26:32
Dani: And then he finger-spells-
26:33
Kara: He finger-spells something
26:34
. Dani: Did you catch that?
26:35
Kara: No, it was too fast for me.
26:36
Dani: It was so fast.
26:37
But yeah, he finger-spells, like, an irrelevant thing-
26:40
Kara: Yeah.
26:40
Dani: To be like, "Fuck you."
26:41
Kara: Yeah, and the guy's like, "Aw." And then Daphne's like- I'll help you.
26:45
I'll guide you.
26:45
And then he goes, "Oh, great, you talk. Are you in the pilot program, too?"
26:49
Dani: Yeah.
26:50
Kara: And then Daphne goes, "No, I'm deaf. I'm just also oral."
26:52
Dani: New twist just dropped.
26:54
Kara: Pilot program.
26:55
Dani: Pilot program.
26:56
Kara: We'll see.
26:57
And then she guides him, and as she guides him away, Emmett signs,
27:00
"Lost little hearing puppy."
27:02
Dani: That's Daphne's favorite type of boy.
27:04
Kara: That is true, and that's also what I see every time I go to
27:08
a deaf event and, like, a hearing person comes in to tag along.
27:11
Like, I'm glad they're there and they're making the effort,
27:14
but sometimes they are like, oh.
27:16
Dani: It's, it's okay.
27:17
Everyone's very friendly.
27:19
Kara: Yes.
27:19
You should go to deaf events, please.
27:20
Dani: You should go.
27:21
It's worth the humiliation of being like that for a minute.
27:24
Kara: It is.
27:25
It is.
27:25
Now we're going off to the other school.
27:28
Bay and Toby are driving to Buckner, and Bay says that thing of, "Where's my
27:32
thank you for being switched at birth?"
27:34
Dani: Yeah.
27:34
Kara: "Now you have studio time with the Flaming Lips
27:37
producer, and I'm traumatized. Congrats." They go park the car.
27:40
Remember, her car is still decked out with that artwork.
27:44
Dani: The sea creatures.
27:45
Kara: Yeah, that's Zarra's artwork.
27:46
Dani: Yeah.
27:47
Kara: I would just paint over that at that point.
27:49
Dani: I know.
27:49
It's been six weeks.
27:51
Kara: That's true.
27:52
But the security guard comes up and is like, "Hey, you gotta move that
27:55
car. It doesn't fit with the Buckner image. Pull over to the back." And
27:59
Bay's pissed but she does do it.
28:01
I would be pissed, too.
28:02
Dani: Yeah, I mean, you pay, like, 60 grand a year to go to that school.
28:05
I'm sure she pays for that parking spot.
28:07
Kara: Oh, that's so true.
28:08
Dani: Yeah.
28:09
I'd be pissed.
28:09
Kara: That is so annoying.
28:10
Angelo takes Regina to a golf course lot where he wants to go build a house.
28:16
I guess this is like a vacant lot where they're gonna build luxury housing?
28:19
Dani: Why is there land for sale on a golf course?
28:23
Kara: It's such a strange place.
28:25
Dani: It's, like, in the middle of the golf course.
28:27
Kara: Like, next to hole nine.
28:28
It's so weird.
28:29
Dani: Yeah, and Regina's like, "Isn't this the Kennishes' golf course?"
28:32
And Angelo's like, "Huh, I didn't know," and then gives a little smirk.
28:35
Like, he's doing this on purpose.
28:37
So weird.
28:38
He's, like, trying to dom John Kennish by being like, "Look, I'm
28:41
gonna build a house on your golf course," with… It- it's for sure
28:45
gonna cost more than the money he won.
28:47
Kara: Yeah, he said, "We're gonna build a beautiful luxury house,
28:50
and we can have a pool and a tennis court," and later he says he wants
28:54
a music room with soundproof walls.
28:57
Surely, I've never built a house before, but I feel like all
29:01
of that is over five million.
29:02
Dani: Also, just the property taxes on a place like that, because-
29:05
Kara: On a golf course?
29:06
Yeah.
29:07
Dani: Yes, Angelo, you have five million dollars, but you, that's it.
29:10
There's no more coming in.
29:12
Kara: No.
29:12
Dani: It's not like you just got a job where you're getting paid
29:15
five million dollars a year.
29:16
Kara: No one is working.
29:17
Dani: Yeah.
29:18
If anything, put that, put that money away.
29:21
Kara: Invest it.
29:22
Dani: Put, yeah, put it away, and then keep it for when you really need it.
29:26
Kara: He stresses me out.
29:27
Dani: Sure, buy yourself the little car, but then nothing else.
29:29
Kara: Perhaps nothing else.
29:30
Dani: Perhaps nothing.
29:31
Kara: Sign language classes and the car.
29:32
Dani: Yeah, and the food truck, I guess, 'cause that was non-negotiable apparently.
29:36
Kara: I guess.
29:37
We're back at Carlton, and Daphne brings the lost little puppy boy to the office.
29:42
His name is Teo, which I thought was Ted, 'cause I misread the captions.
29:46
But then I looked it up again.
29:48
And Melody sees her in the process, and goes like, "Hi, honey.
29:52
Since you quit your kitchen job, you need to be doing something else.
29:55
You can't just have a free period.
29:57
So in the meantime, I signed you up for my Deaf Studies seminar."
30:01
And Daphne's like, "Thanks."
30:03
Dani: She really doesn't wanna do it.
30:05
Kara: It sounds like a good class.
30:07
Dani: Melody's like her mom.
30:08
Kara: That's fair.
30:09
Dani: Like, you don't wanna take your mom's class about, like, Deaf heroes.
30:14
Like Deaf pride, yeah.
30:15
Kara: She's like, "I've already heard enough from you about that."
30:17
Dani: Honestly, Daphne needs it, though, but…
30:19
Kara: She's gonna need that later.
30:20
Dani: Yeah.
30:21
Kara: Yeah, she truly has no sense of Deaf pride.
30:23
Dani: Yeah.
30:24
So yeah, it's established she can't find a new job to fill that time.
30:29
Kara: Yes, I guess not.
30:30
Dani: And that sucks for her, so.
30:32
Kara: That does.
30:33
She's just not having a fun day.
30:35
Bay, after moving her car, goes in the hallway.
30:38
She's walking through Buckner, and she gets called into the principal's office.
30:42
She's like, "Shit, don't know what that's about." She meets with the
30:45
principal and Monsieur Feldman.
30:47
They're a French teacher, and they're like, "You are here because you got 94 on
30:52
your French exam, but the girl in front of you got 97, and we think you cheated."
30:58
And Bay's like, "So I didn't. I truly have been studying my ass off, and I also
31:02
have a biological father who's fluent in French." And they said, "Okay, great.
31:07
Well, now you need to testify in front of the Ca- the Buckner Honor Board."
31:11
Dani: But that's insane.
31:12
Over one test is crazy.
31:14
Kara: I agree.
31:15
She says later on she could be suspended or expelled.
31:19
Dani: Can you imagine paying 60 grand for a private school, and then they
31:22
expel your kid for improving on a test?
31:24
Kara: For studying?
31:24
Yeah.
31:25
Dani: Yeah.
31:25
She is so pissed, and is not holding back.
31:28
The whole episode, she's like, "What the fuck?" Like, what do you mean?
31:32
Kara: Yeah.
31:32
Dani: I would … I understand completely why she wants to leave
31:35
Buckner by the end of the episode.
31:36
Kara: No, I get it.
31:37
I'd be furious.
31:38
Dani: Like, she's wanted to leave pretty much the whole time.
31:40
But I don't know if her choice makes the most sense to me.
31:45
Kara: No.
31:46
I think they're gonna discuss this in the next episode, but-
31:49
Dani: Yeah.
31:49
Kara: We'll get to it.
31:51
Dani: Ugh, can't wait.
31:52
Kara: John and Kathryn got invited to play golf with some friends.
31:54
Dani: Yeah, this is so random.
31:56
You know, the actors, the actors playing these people are,
31:59
they also play Lucas Grabeel's parents in High School Musical 2.
32:03
Kara: You're right.
32:04
Dani: Yeah.
32:04
And they're on the golf course then.
32:06
Kara: I knew the mom looked familiar.
32:07
Dani: Yeah.
32:08
Kara: That's awesome.
32:09
They love golf in every lifetime.
32:11
Dani: Yeah, so, so they are, like, I honestly wasn't really paying attention
32:15
to this, 'cause I knew it was just a plot device to get Kathryn and John
32:18
into, like, the political situation.
32:20
Kara: Yeah.
32:21
Dani: They're, like, involved politically somehow.
32:24
They're politicians, or they're fundraisers or something.
32:27
They're on the party board.
32:29
Kara: I'm not entirely sure what they do, but they're, like, this-
32:32
Dani: Some guy died.
32:33
Kara: The state senator passed away, and they said something
32:35
about chronic depression.
32:37
Did he kill himself?
32:38
Dani: I was confused about that.
32:40
So anyway, he's kind of irrelevant now.
32:42
So they're like, "We're trying to find someone new," and they're
32:45
kinda buttering Kathryn up the whole time on the golf course.
32:48
Kara: Yeah, they're like, "You're amazing. You wrote this book. You're so cool."
32:51
Dani: And then they're like, "We really want your random friend, who was also
32:55
a baseball player back in the day-
32:57
Kara: Yes.
32:58
Dani: To run.
32:58
Can you, like, approach him for us?"
33:00
Kara: Yeah.
33:00
Dani: Which is just not how those things work, I don't think.
33:03
But whatever.
33:04
Kara: Could not tell you.
33:05
And then later, John is like, "That guy's dumb as a box of rocks."
33:08
Dani: Yeah.
33:08
Kara: Like, "I may ask him to run, but I'm not gonna vote for him."
33:12
And Kathryn's like, "I don't know, I think I'd be kinda good at it."
33:15
Dani: She was like, "I thought they were gonna ask me." And then John kinda
33:19
makes her feel silly for thinking that.
33:21
Kara: I know.
33:22
Dani: Like, he's really dismissive when she's like, "What if I ran?" at first.
33:25
And then he gets on board.
33:26
Kara: Yeah.
33:26
Later, he's like, "Okay."
33:27
Dani: He gets on board later.
33:29
And he's supportive.
33:31
I'm wrapping this up 'cause I don't really care about this-
33:33
Kara: Yeah, let's wrap it up.
33:34
Dani: He's supportive at fir- or he's supportive eventually.
33:37
Much like everything with John Kennish, he, like, first has to react with, like,
33:41
a little bit of old-school Republican man.
33:44
Kara: Yes.
33:44
Dani: And be like, "What? No." And then he got over it and
33:48
accepted that he would have to be continuing to make his own dinner.
33:51
Kara: Yeah.
33:51
So Kathryn then calls the friend and is like, "I think I
33:54
should run for state senate."
33:56
Dani: And then the friend is like, "Actually, we think John should run." And-
34:00
Kara: I kind of think they're right.
34:00
I think that'd be a bit more realistic, yeah.
34:03
Dani: Yeah.
34:03
Kathryn's so great, but I- her being like, "I'm kind of a brand."
34:07
Well, your husband-
34:08
Kara: John is the brand.
34:09
Dani: Yeah.
34:09
Your husband was, like, is, like, actually a celebrity.
34:12
Kara: But she gets on board.
34:13
She makes a little poster, like, John Kennish for state senate.
34:16
Dani: I think that she would- I don't remember if she ends up being his campaign
34:19
manager officially, but I feel like she would be so good at all of that.
34:22
Kara: You're so right.
34:23
That would be her new thing.
34:24
Dani: And then she's like, "And then we can be like Bill and Hillary."
34:27
Kara: Oof.
34:27
Dani: She's like, "I'll do it next." Oof.
34:29
Kara: Yeah.
34:29
Dani: Tough.
34:30
Kara: But John first is like, "I'm good.
34:32
I don't wanna do all that." And she was like, "I think this
34:34
would be a good path for you.
34:35
You'd feel more fulfilled.
34:37
You can do all the things that you complain aren't being done."
34:40
Dani: So true.
34:41
I think it would be the perfect role for him.
34:43
Kara: I think it'd be more fun for the show if Kathryn ran, but I understand
34:48
that John running is more realistic.
34:50
And that's the end of that plot really.
34:51
Yeah.
34:51
John's gonna probably run for state senate.
34:54
Okay.
34:55
And now where are we?
34:57
Dani: In my notes I put, "local government thing, I guess. IDK."
35:01
That's all I had to say about that.
35:02
Daphne's outside with Travis.
35:05
Kara: They're doing work together.
35:06
Dani: They're doing work together, except they're not, because Travis
35:08
is trying to talk to Daphne about his birthday that's coming up, and Daphne
35:12
is looking on Chef Jeff's website.
35:16
Kara: It's the Maize website.
35:17
Dani: The Maize website, like, staring at his card and what
35:20
tonight's dinner menu is longingly.
35:22
And then Travis kinda tries to, like, look at it.
35:24
Daphne's like, "Whoa, whoa.
35:26
Back off." And then continues to ignore him as he's like, "So you're making
35:30
me a birthday cake, right?" This was such a tough scene because Travis
35:35
is so sweet to me, the viewer, but if I was Daphne, I would be annoyed.
35:38
Kara: I'd be annoyed.
35:39
Dani: 'Cause he's so needy.
35:41
But he's so needy 'cause he doesn't have anyone else, and he needs someone.
35:44
Kara: He goes, "Can you make me a birthday cake? Last year when I turned
35:47
17, my parents forgot about me, and they went out to dinner without me."
35:51
Dani: It was so heartbreaking.
35:52
But then he's like, "The more chocolate, the better, please."
35:55
And it's like if I'm Daphne, and I have an eating disorder and I'm,
35:59
like, exercising to have control in my life, and I'm heartbroken, and I'm
36:05
unemployed, and then this man is like, "Can you make me a birthday cake?"
36:09
Kara: Ah!
36:09
Dani: Ah!
36:10
But poor Travis also.
36:12
Kara: I liked, I liked in the beginning of that scene, he's also in
36:14
the Deaf Studies class with Melody.
36:16
And he goes, "Have you heard of Dummy Hoy?"
36:18
Dani: Yeah.
36:18
Kara: Who was, like, the first deaf baseball player.
36:20
And Ryan Lane himself was in the Dummy Hoy documentary.
36:25
Dani: Oh, very cool.
36:25
Kara: So I thought that was a fun thing.
36:27
Dani: Before or after this?
36:29
Kara: Before, in 2008.
36:30
Dani: Hell yeah.
36:31
Kara: Mm-hmm.
36:32
Oh, and then also Daphne refuses potato chips, and he goes,
36:35
"You're not bulimic, right?"
36:36
Dani: Yeah.
36:36
He goes, "You're not making yourself throw up, are you?"
36:39
Kara: While he's, like, trauma dumping on her-
36:42
Dani: Yeah.
36:42
Kara: She is texting Chef Jeff, "Could you give me a work recommendation?"
36:47
Dani: Yeah.
36:47
Kara: And this, after all the green bubbles, is when he finally
36:50
texts back, "Let's meet after lockup." And she sprints off.
36:54
Dani: Yeah.
36:54
Sad.
36:55
Kara: Yeah.
36:56
Dani: I can't believe we had to deal with him in this episode.
36:58
I, I really thought we were done.
37:00
Kara: I know.
37:01
Toby.
37:02
Dani: Why did he do this?
37:04
Kara: They just need any excuse for him to hear about this.
37:07
But he goes to Angelo's apartment.
37:09
Dani: Yeah.
37:10
Kara: To say thank you again for the studio time.
37:13
And when he arrives, I guess the apartment door is wide open.
37:17
Dani: So he just walks right in.
37:18
Kara: And he hears an argument between Angelo and this woman, who I think
37:23
later we find out her name is Lana.
37:25
Dani: Okay.
37:26
Pretty name.
37:27
Kara: Yeah.
37:27
And what was the- what was the premise of the argument?
37:30
It was just kind of like, "I'm pregnant, and I-"
37:33
Dani: I think it was him being like, "I want you to take a paternity test,"
37:36
and her being like, "I'm literally only back here because I, I, like, I was
37:39
gonna not tell you, but then I read all that shit you said in court about
37:43
being sad about missing out on raising your daughters, and I wanted to give
37:46
you a chance to raise another one."
37:48
Kara: Oh, and then he's like, "No."
37:49
Dani: Yeah.
37:50
And then Toby's like, "Hey. I can come back later. It's fine."
37:53
Kara: And then Angelo is like, Angelo's like, "No. Sit down."
37:56
Dani: He's like, "Sit down.
37:57
I'm gonna trauma dump on you-
37:59
Kara: A 17-year-old.
38:00
Dani: About how I had a one-night stand and everything's fucked up now."
38:04
Kara: Poor Toby is like, "Oh, it's truly not my business.
38:07
I truly don't know what I would even do." And Angelo's like, "Can you believe
38:11
it?" And he's like, "No, 'cause I'm 17."
38:13
Dani: Yeah.
38:14
He's like, "I've literally never been anywhere close to a situation like
38:17
this. So no, I can't believe it."
38:19
Kara: I know.
38:20
Yeah, Angelo says, so when Adrianna called the cops on him, he got on a
38:24
plane to Italy, where he met Lana, and then they ended up by chance
38:30
meeting at a cafe in Rome, and then they had this one-night stand.
38:33
And then Angelo is like, "But that can't be. Like, there's no way I got her
38:38
pregnant, so I asked for a DNA test."
38:40
And Toby's like, "Yeah, totally. Hmm."
38:45
Dani: To be fair, from Angelo's perspective, and he says this, and he
38:49
shouldn't have said it, but she did show up on the day that he won $5 million.
38:54
Kara: But how could she have known he was gonna win?
38:57
Dani: Well, she showed up after he won.
38:58
Kara: Oh.
38:59
Dani: Like, she shows up to the courthouse-
39:01
Kara: After.
39:01
That's fair.
39:02
Dani: After.
39:02
Kara: That's true.
39:03
He does say, like, "She's coming after my money."
39:05
Dani: Yeah.
39:06
Kara: For, I guess, parental support.
39:09
Dani: But it's like, well, I don't know.
39:12
If it's your kid, then yeah, she is.
39:13
Kara: Yes.
39:14
Dani: Then, yeah, get that parental support.
39:16
Kara: Get it.
39:17
Bay is back at home.
39:19
She has told John and Kathleen already that she's been accused of cheating, and-
39:23
Dani: They're being very supportive.
39:24
Kara: Yeah, they're like, "We have been watching you study, so, yeah,
39:28
you did not cheat." And Bay says, "Well, for this honor board, I have
39:32
to present my case, and then Monsieur Feldman has to present his case.
39:36
And then the board decides if I'm suspended or expelled or if I'm good.
39:41
And I also asked Angelo to come, I guess, to kind of represent me and to prove
39:46
that he's been teaching me French." And John is like, "Okay, he's not the most
39:51
reliable, but I guess it's a good idea."
39:53
Dani: I was so worried when she said that she'd asked that he was gonna bail on her.
39:57
Kara: I thought so, too.
39:57
Dani: I was really scared of that.
39:59
Kara: Yeah.
39:59
But Kathryn also is kind of like, "He'll win another million
40:03
dollars. Everyone loves him."
40:05
Dani: It's true.
40:06
He's so handsome.
40:07
Those students will be like, "Well, obviously you're innocent."
40:10
Kara: Yeah, which kind of is what happens after.
40:13
Toby is in the garage after his little chat with Angelo.
40:16
He's sweating bullets.
40:18
Dani: Yeah.
40:18
Kara: And he sees Regina with boxes.
40:20
He comes to help her.
40:21
Dani: He tries to turn away.
40:23
She's like, "Hello."
40:24
Kara: "I need your help. Angelo asked me to design the house I'm building."
40:29
The- yeah, Angelo asked me to design the house that he's building, and he
40:34
wants a music room, and I want your help for- how to do, like, soundproof walls.
40:40
Dani: Right.
40:40
Kara: This is crazy.
40:41
Dani: And Toby's like, "You're moving in with him?"
40:44
And Regina's like, "I don't see what's stopping me." I don't know, girl.
40:48
Maybe the context in which you exist.
40:51
Kara: Right.
40:52
And then Toby is-
40:53
Dani: And everything that came before you.
40:54
I don't know.
40:55
Like, let's maybe look around.
40:56
Let's take in our surroundings.
40:58
Let's remember where we're at.
40:59
Kara: I know.
41:00
Toby is so stressed out.
41:02
He's like, "Oh, you're gonna move in with him?"
41:03
Dani: Oh, wow.
41:04
Okay.
41:05
Kara: Daphne goes to see Chef Jeff after the text.
41:08
She is thrilled to see him.
41:10
Dani: She's grinning ear to ear.
41:12
It's so sad.
41:13
This is so- Travis is so sad puppy, and then Daphne's, like, ugh, and kicking
41:19
him, and then turning around and she's sad puppy to Chef Jeff, and he's kicking her.
41:24
Kara: Yeah, and then she kicks Travis.
41:26
Dani: It's a terrible cycle.
41:27
Kara: Yeah.
41:28
Dani: I know, she goes back and kicks Travis harder.
41:30
Kara: I know.
41:31
She's so happy to see him, and then he says, "I can't give you a work
41:35
recommendation. I'm on probation after this whole thing. A bunch of
41:38
chefs know what happened between us, and if they ask about you, I'm
41:42
gonna have to tell them the truth."
41:44
Dani: That-
41:45
Kara: They can't just say you're-
41:46
Dani: -made no sense.
41:46
Kara: You're a great chef?
41:47
Dani: Yeah.
41:49
Oh, she had to be let go for, because she's a high school student, and it-
41:53
Kara: She had to be let go 'cause I'm the problem.
41:55
Like-
41:56
Dani: Also, she resigned.
41:57
Kara: Yes.
41:58
Dani: So you don't even have to say, like, "Oh, she was fired for what happened."
42:01
Like, she- you could just be like, "Yeah, her school schedule got too busy,
42:05
but now it's better. You should hire her. Great girl." Kind of, who cares?
42:10
Kara: Yeah.
42:11
Dani: Not, like, we care obviously about what happened.
42:13
Fuck him.
42:13
But like who-
42:14
Kara: So why does a random employee- employer need to know that?
42:17
Dani: Yeah.
42:18
Yeah.
42:18
Why did… He says, "I'm gonna have to be honest."
42:21
Kara: This isn't court.
42:21
Dani: This is just very upsetting that she's suffering the
42:23
consequences of his choices.
42:24
Kara: And also, we cannot be friends.
42:26
I mean, yes, agreed, but Daphne-
42:29
Dani: Yeah.
42:29
Yeah.
42:29
And then he's like, "Also, you don't have to text me every time you put me down as
42:34
a reference, if you are gonna put me down as a reference," which obviously she's not
42:38
after you said, "Well, I'm gonna have to spill the tea about how we were together."
42:41
Kara: And then Daphne goes, "Oh, okay. I'm sorry." She apologizes.
42:45
Dani: She is sorry?
42:47
What do you mean?
42:48
Kara: She drives home, and Travis is there in the driveway.
42:51
Dani: Oh my God.
42:52
Kara: And yeah, and then she kicks him while he's down.
42:55
Dani: Okay.
42:55
But then the flip side of, this is so- this is actually a really
42:58
good plot line, because I feel for everyone in this situation.
43:01
Kara: I know.
43:01
Me too.
43:02
Dani: Because again, if I'm Daphne, and I've just gone through this, and
43:05
then I show up, and a guy who I have rejected multiple times, granted she
43:10
has then used him and flirted with him-
43:12
Kara: Yes.
43:12
Dani: For Chef Jeff's attention.
43:13
But, like, Travis should be putting things together, piecing the amount of times
43:18
that she then bailed on him as well.
43:20
You know?
43:20
Kara: Which is what she says, is she's saying-
43:22
Dani: Yeah.
43:22
She's like, "I can't. You will not take a hint," and that's
43:25
very frustrating and true.
43:27
Kara: Yeah.
43:28
Dani: But it's just like, Travis needs someone.
43:31
Kara: He does.
43:32
Dani: I know.
43:33
Kara: Yeah.
43:34
I don't think-
43:34
Dani: Daphne's so privileged compared to him.
43:36
Kara: No one's wrong in this situation.
43:38
Dani: No.
43:38
Kara: They're going through it.
43:39
Dani: And I also think for Travis, he's kind of over, like, he's not really
43:42
trying to pursue Daphne like that anymore.
43:44
Kara: No, I think he's like, "Please, I need a friend."
43:46
Dani: Yeah.
43:47
Kara: And he later is gonna say-
43:49
Dani: Yeah…
43:49
Kara: why he really needs one.
43:50
Dani: Yeah.
43:51
But she really, she's mean to him.
43:54
Kara: It's
43:54
Dani: the next day, and Bay is trying to hang up the Frida letter in the
43:58
bedroom in a very weird location.
44:00
Agree.
44:00
Kara: It's,
44:00
Dani: like, way too high up-
44:01
It's too high that you can't read it.
44:02
It's, like, way above her-
44:04
Kara: like, Frida Kahlo quote.
44:06
But then you cannot read it.
44:07
It's, like, near the ceiling.
44:08
Dani: Yeah.
44:08
She's, like, on her tiptoes on her bed.
44:10
Kara: Interior design's not her thing,
44:12
Dani: I
44:12
Kara: guess.
44:12
No, definitely not.
44:13
Toby walks in.
44:15
This is also the day before honor board, and Bay's like, "Do you
44:19
like where I'm gonna hang this picture? Isn't this so cool?"
44:22
Dani: And Toby's like, "Your dad is a problem."
44:25
Kara: Well, he goes, "Are you sure that's real?"
44:27
Dani: Oh, fucked up way to start.
44:28
Kara: Yeah.
44:29
And Bay's like, "Yeah.
44:30
Also, what's going on?" And Toby's like, "I think he got someone
44:34
pregnant." And then Bay immediately turns around and goes, "Was she
44:37
African American and gorgeous?"
44:39
Dani: Yeah.
44:39
Kara: And the answer is yes, she is.
44:40
Dani: I can't believe- and then she reveals that when they brought
44:43
that up after the events of the finale, Angelo was like, "She was
44:46
just a People magazine reporter."
44:48
Kara: He fully lies to her face.
44:49
Dani: Yeah.
44:50
But, like, do you believe that?
44:52
Kara: I don't know.
44:53
Dani: She's, like, nine months pregnant.
44:54
Kara: Well, Bay was like, "I don't know, 'cause everyone was asking for
44:58
statements after this trial. So, like, I didn't really think anything of it."
45:02
Dani: Think that one's on her a little.
45:04
Kara: I
45:04
Dani: don't know.
45:05
I would've been connecting dots.
45:06
Kara: I'd
45:06
Dani: be clueless as a teenager.
45:07
I would've been connecting dots.
45:08
Angelo's so shifty.
45:10
Kara: That's true.
45:11
But now it's honor board day.
45:13
Bay is pissed now, now that she knows about Lana.
45:16
but thank God he's there.
45:17
I was afraid he was gonna bail.
45:19
Dani: Me too.
45:19
Kara: She turns to Angelo while they're waiting for the honor board to start,
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and she's like, "So where is that People magazine article that you talked about?"
45:27
And he's like, "Oh, I'll go look for it. I don't know. I don't know
45:30
if it ever came out." Bad lying.
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Honor board starts, and he stands up, and he speaks from the o- from the
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heart, and it seems to go pretty well.
45:38
Dani: Yeah.
45:39
Kara: Afterward, Bay marches out.
45:40
She's like, "Great, that's done. I don't have to worry about that." Also, you're
45:44
the one who's a liar and a cheater.
45:45
Dani: Yeah.
45:47
Kara: And then Angelo's-
45:48
Dani: I hope Toby already cashed in his recording session.
45:51
Kara: True.
45:51
Angelo's like, "Don't worry. Yes, I, maybe I did get her pregnant, but
45:56
I'm gonna give her plenty of money so she can raise the baby on her own,
45:59
and I don't have to be involved."
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Dani: Damn, bitch, you really learned nothing.
46:03
Kara: Yeah.
46:04
It's like, do you get the issue?
46:06
Dani: Yeah.
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No.
46:07
And Bay, yeah, Bay crashes the fuck out.
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Kara: She's like, "So you're gonna walk out on another kid?"
46:13
Dani: And he's like, "Well, yeah, so that I'm not walking out on you
46:15
again." And she's like, "That's-"
46:17
Kara: No.
46:18
Dani: "It's too late," basically.
46:20
Kara: Daphne is in her Deaf studies class now at Carlton while a classmate is
46:24
giving a presentation about Andrew Foster.
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Dani: It's Natalie.
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Kara: Yes, that's right.
46:29
Dani: This is our first time seeing Natalie.
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Kara: That's true.
46:32
Dani: We're not introduced to her.
46:34
I just remember her from later seasons.
46:35
Kara: No, we just see her giving the presentation, but we don't
46:37
know her name or anything.
46:38
Dani: Yeah.
46:39
I love her.
46:40
Kara: Me too.
46:40
Dani: She's one of my favorite characters.
46:42
Kara: She's giving a presentation on Andrew Foster, who was the
46:45
first Black Deaf person to get a bachelor's from Gallaudet, and then
46:48
he founded the Christian Mission for the Deaf African, and he established
46:52
a bunch of schools in Africa.
46:54
Overall, he established 30 churches and mission schools for the deaf
46:58
in 13 countries across Africa.
47:00
Sure.
47:01
I have mixed feelings about missions, but sure.
47:03
But he brought language.
47:04
Dani: Different time.
47:05
Kara: But also Natalie does say, and this is true, I looked it up, was
47:08
that the culture at the time if you had a deaf child was to lock them up.
47:13
And then kind of throw away the key or throw it, or you just leave them for dead.
47:16
It's really awful.
47:17
Dani: Yeah.
47:18
Kara: And he kind of changed attitudes there and was like, "No, they deserve
47:21
an education." "They deserve to be treated like everyone else."
47:24
Dani: I guess mission schools in this case are a lesser evil.
47:27
Kara: Yes.
47:27
That's kind of how I feel.
47:29
But Daphne does not care.
47:30
She's doodling the whole time.
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Dani: She's draw- drawing a big J.
47:34
Kara: And Melody sees this.
47:36
Dani: Melody sees.
47:37
Kara: Yeah.
47:37
Dani: I think Melody needs to have a little bit more compassion than she
47:41
has in this episode overall, honestly.
47:42
Kara: I have mixed feelings about this next scene.
47:44
She keeps Daphne after class.
47:46
She's like, "Travis isn't here.
47:48
Have you guys talked?" Daphne's like, "No."
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Dani: Melody's
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Kara: like, "Was he okay when you saw him?" Daphne's like, "Yeah,
47:53
totally fine." She's such a liar.
47:55
Alright.
47:56
And then Melody goes, "What are you doing in the, the notebook? Taking notes?"
48:01
Dani: Taking notes, fully not looking.
48:02
Kara: The giant J.
48:03
Dani: Yeah.
48:04
Kara: Okay.
48:05
It's kind of hard to be in a deaf class.
48:07
You kind of have to look up.
48:09
Dani: Yeah.
48:09
Kara: It's kind… Yeah.
48:10
Yeah.
48:10
You can't really be doodling.
48:11
Dani: You can't really be looking elsewhere and then say, "I was listening."
48:15
Kara: Yeah.
48:15
Melody says, "Is, is this about Jeff? Do you realize how badly
48:20
you screwed up?" She screwed up?
48:23
Dani: She's pissing me off.
48:23
Kara: Do you know how hard it is to get an opportunity like
48:25
that and you threw it away?
48:27
She was being groomed and abused.
48:29
Dani: Yes, she does say, "This isn't about you dating your boss.
48:32
I couldn't care less about that."
48:33
Kara: It's not dating your boss.
48:35
Dani: And it's like, I don't know, you were dating her boss, too!
48:36
And let's not forget.
48:37
Kara: Yeah.
48:38
Dani: You were dating her boss, too.
48:39
Kara: Oh my God.
48:41
Dani: But yeah, then she's like, "This is about you being a deaf
48:44
person who threw away an opportunity."
48:46
Kara: Yeah, you can't afford to make bad decisions.
48:48
Get over him.
48:49
I do l- And Daphne does respond really well to this.
48:52
She really likes, she does always respond really well to, like, a talking to.
48:57
Dani: Yeah.
48:58
Kara: And if I were that, at that age, I'd be crying.
49:01
Dani: Yeah.
49:02
I, I don't feel like it's fair that-
49:04
Kara: No.
49:05
Dani: Melody's putting all that on her.
49:06
Kara: No.
49:07
And then she points to the posters of, like, Helen Keller and Andrew Foster,
49:10
and she's like, "These people kicked down doors to give us the rights we take
49:13
for granted. Do not disrespect them."
49:16
Dani: I just think, like, it's okay for Daphne to be a teenager.
49:20
Kara: I think it's way-
49:21
Dani: She doesn't have to be, like, a Deaf icon all the time.
49:24
Kara: I think it's way too much pressure, and also she was abused.
49:27
Dani: Literally.
49:28
We're just-
49:28
Kara: Does no one remember that?
49:29
Dani: I think we just have to establish that in this world, no one
49:32
is considering it abuse, including her.
49:34
Kara: No.
49:35
No one, again, no crime.
49:36
Dani: I know.
49:36
Kara: No crime was committed.
49:37
Dani: Well, no arrests were made.
49:39
Kara: This does, like, light a fire in her because then she's like, "I
49:42
will be, like, a self-sufficient Deaf person, taking every opportunity
49:46
that comes my way because I'm going to keep this food truck."
49:49
Dani: This food truck.
49:50
Kara: Yeah.
49:51
So that's what's gonna happen.
49:52
But after the Deaf Studies class, she's gonna go to the car wash at
49:55
night to find a sleeping Travis.
49:57
Dani: Yeah, he's staying there.
49:59
Kara: She's like, "Hey.
49:59
Bay told me you're here.
50:00
Hello.
50:01
I'm sorry for being an awful friend." And Travis is like, "Well, when
50:06
I'm 18, my parents are kicking me out, and my birthday is soon."
50:08
'Cause he keeps talking about his birthday coming up.
50:10
Dani: Yeah.
50:11
Kara: And Daphne's like, "What are you gonna do?" And he says,
50:13
"Don't know." So that sucks.
50:15
Dani: And she says, "When was the last time you ate something not from
50:18
a vending machine?" And then she makes him waffles in her food truck.
50:22
Kara: I personally, if someone was not having any nutrition, I
50:27
perhaps would give them a more nutritious meal than waffles, but-
50:30
Dani: Yeah.
50:31
Kara: It's okay.
50:31
It's okay.
50:32
But he's thrilled.
50:33
He loves waffles.
50:33
Dani: Yeah, he's very happy.
50:35
So they're having a little nighttime party in the food truck.
50:38
Kara: And then Bay comes in, and she's like, "Can I join the party?"
50:41
Dani: And she means it in more ways than one, 'cause she has come to
50:46
ask Daphne how Daphne would feel if she were to transfer to Carlton.
50:51
Kara: I thought she was gonna be like, "Guess what I found out about Angelo?"
50:55
Dani: Yeah, no.
50:56
Kara: But no, she's like, "I want to transfer to pilot program." They
51:01
haven't really fully explained the pilot program thing yet but it sounds like
51:05
hearing kids are coming to the school.
51:07
Dani: Yeah.
51:07
How do we feel about that?
51:09
Do we think that Bay's sign is strong enough for her to go to a school where
51:13
presumably all the teachers are also Deaf-
51:16
Kara: Going to sign.
51:16
Dani: And going to sign?
51:18
Kara: I think she'll learn fast.
51:19
Dani: I mean, I think she'll have to.
51:20
I just, like, cannot imagine already in, being in a class where you're struggling.
51:27
Like, I can't imagine being in math class and my math teacher teaching me in sign.
51:31
Kara: That's so fair.
51:33
Dani: 'Cause I know kids do that.
51:34
Like, I know especially, like, younger kids, you know, where English is
51:38
their second language, but Bay is-
51:41
Kara: I will say my friend Rachel who listens to the pod, hello-
51:44
Dani: Hey, shout out Rachel.
51:45
Kara: Went to RIT.
51:46
Didn't know a lick of sign, and had, just had to learn it.
51:50
Dani: Wow.
51:51
Shout out Rachel, I would actually love to hear about that experience.
51:54
Kara: Yeah.
51:54
Dani: So I guess that is what Bay is signing up for.
51:57
Kara: I think she has a good grasp on sign already.
52:00
Dani: Yeah.
52:00
Kara: I guess for higher concepts, like, I don't know, trigonometry,
52:03
that's gonna be a pain in the ass.
52:04
I wouldn't even know how to do that.
52:06
Dani: Yeah.
52:07
Kara: But yeah, I think I'm like, if you're so unhappy at Buckner
52:11
and you really wanna immerse yourself in sign and be closer
52:15
with your sister, I'm all for that.
52:17
I just hope that, part of me is like, I do hope that you will get a good education.
52:22
Dani: Yeah, I also guess I feel like it has nothing to do with Daphne.
52:26
Like, I think she's just like, "Well, I wanna get back together
52:28
with Emmett and that's where Emmett goes." Like, it is such a, like,
52:30
17-year-old thing, or 16 year old.
52:33
No, we've established they're 17 now, right?
52:35
Kara: Yes, but we just didn't have a birthday.
52:37
Dani: Yeah, we just skipped their birthday, but that is such a
52:40
17-year-old thing, I feel, to be like, "I wanna go to where my boyfriend
52:43
goes to school. I don't even care."
52:45
Kara: Yeah.
52:46
Dani: But to go from, like, your really wealthy, private, well-connected school-
52:50
Kara: And I think-
52:51
Dani: to, like, Carlton that is struggling.
52:53
Kara: And I think they're gonna talk about this in the next episode, 'cause I
52:56
think she's gonna bring it up to John and Kathryn, and they're gonna be like, "Oh."
53:00
Dani: Yeah.
53:00
Kara: "I don't like that."
53:01
Dani: Yeah.
53:02
Any other thoughts about the episode?
53:04
Kara: I think it was a great setup for the rest of the season.
53:06
Dani: Yeah.
53:07
Perfect first.
53:08
Kara: A lot of new firsts happening.
53:10
New food truck, new school.
53:11
Dani: I'm loving Daphne's haircut.
53:13
Kara: Yeah.
53:13
Dani: I think both the girls' hair looks great.
53:15
Kara: Love Bay's.
53:16
Dani: Yeah, bay's is gorgeous.
53:17
Kara: Yeah.
53:18
New maybe state senator, new school, new money for Angelo, new baby, question mark?
53:25
Dani: Oh my God.
53:25
Kara: So many new things coming our way.
53:27
Dani: How exciting.
53:28
Kara: I love it.
53:29
Dani: And more new episodes from us.
53:30
Kara: Yes.
53:31
Dani: We'll be back next week.
53:32
Kara: Wee!
53:32
Dani: Bye.
53:33
Kara: Bye.