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present day pr relationships of hollywood · gasp! the pod

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I do think that we should all vote to, you know, extend Pride
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for another month because this was awash.
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Hey guys, welcome back to Gasp the pod, the podcast for the
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gays, the girls and especially the gay girls.
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Happy last week of pride. So this week Taylor Swift and
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Travis Kelsey have been seen at many, many events together.
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OK, the paps have been quick to take their picture.
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They're obviously like, this is work for them, right?
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They were joined by Travis's rumored boyfriend, Ross Travis
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at most of these events. You all have heard me talk about
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Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey and how I think they're in a PR
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relationship, right? But they're not the only ones in
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right now in a PR relationship. OK, guys, this is still
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happening. The Hollywood practice of
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lavender marriages and relationships, it's still going
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on. It's not a thing of the past.
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So today I thought we would talk about a few other current PR
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relationships. There are a lot going on, and I
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just chose the ones that I've like that kind of fascinate me
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the most. Episode we're going to cover
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Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster, Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra,
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and of course Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce.
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And also this is going to be my last episode for this season.
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This is season 2 for me. Even though seasons don't really
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like mean much in podcasts, I guess I like to like break it up
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for myself. This season has been going on
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since like January of this past year.
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A lot has happened and in that time I was living in New York
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and I have since moved into my apartment with my girlfriend in
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DCA. Lot has changed.
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I very much enjoyed these conversations.
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I feel like I've had a lot of fun with these topics, but I'm
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going to take like a break. Lord knows I need one.
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I will be posting bonus episodes during my break, so if you feel
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the need for more content, you can check those out on my
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Patreon. Those will always be my Patreon
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and I will never post those anywhere else.
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So only on my Patreon to get that content.
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I may be reposting some episodes, we'll see.
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Yeah, we had to do some Pride content and now I need a break.
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Mama needs a break. But yeah, I'm gonna miss you
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guys. It won't be too long, don't
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worry. Just a few updates, OK?
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This is like the last week of Pride.
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Weird Pride. Weird pride for sure.
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I feel like a lot of people forgot about it and a lot of
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people didn't fucking care. And maybe we probably should
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have expected that because we are currently in a downward
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spiral towards conservatism and fascism and war.
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But everything's going to be OK. You guys.
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OK. We still have each other.
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We still have the gays. And if anything, we can just
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make it more of an exclusive club.
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And I think everything's going to be OK.
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But yeah, I think just a reminder that, like, Pride
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doesn't have to end. And I'm telling myself that too.
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Like, at the end of June, like, you know, we can still go to gay
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events and, like, have geek community and stuff like that.
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OK. I'm just telling myself that
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maybe we'll make July Pride because I feel like we might
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need another month. On my Patreon are the last two
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Pride month bonus episodes that I've done Gaylord Song of the
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Month and Benefits of being Gay are going to be released.
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Sorry, I'm a little slow on these.
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They're not like specifically timely towards you.
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Like week three-week 4, mostly because like I was out of the
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country and Oh my God, I've just had like a crazy past few weeks
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because I was in Austria and then I was in Spain and then
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flying back. I was stuck in the Lisbon
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airport for like a whole fucking day.
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So it's just been a lot you guys.
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I also came back to construction in our apartment, so there's
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just like I'm not timely and per on that topic, I'm filming this
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the day that I usually release episodes.
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So sorry this one's late as well.
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It's Pride. So I get a little slack.
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OK, Last thing, I'm going to shout out a few more #1 Gaspers.
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I wanted to do a couple today because like the last episode
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for a little bit. So I wanted to shout out number
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one, Gaspers, Jasmine Hek and Beth B, thank you so much for
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being loyal #1 Gaspers, I love you so much.
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Happy pride. Thank you so much for listening.
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Yeah, those are my updates. If you want content in the time
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that I'm away, you know, just subscribe to my Patreon.
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Check me out on TikTok talk, let me know if there's any like
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topics you want me to cover so I can start planning for season 3.
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All the good stuff. Also for season 3, I'm going to
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put something behind this couch and make more of a set moment.
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So that's what I'm going to use my time to do and other work and
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a lot of stuff. Let's talk about these PR
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relationships, OK, Obviously, you know, my hyperfixation is
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Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey. I think first of all, I've been
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a Swifty for so long. So like I'm going to talk about
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Taylor Swift all the time and obviously I'm going to talk
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about her PR relationships. She's queen of PR, OK?
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That's why she came back from like her canceling so well.
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It's because she is really good at PR.
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She's so aware of the criticism against her and she's very smart
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and calculated in a in a good way.
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She knows how she's received, right?
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So she's like perfectly perfected her image.
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She knows exactly what people are saying about her.
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So she's queen of PR. And that doesn't mean that's
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like a bad thing, OK, you guys. And also, she needs a beard.
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She needs beards. Yeah.
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So obviously I focus on that. But I obviously wanted to talk
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about some other relationships that I don't think people talk
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about as much when it comes to PR, even though they're accepted
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to be PR relationships. You know, like, obviously, the
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center of any pop culture right now is Taylor Swift.
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So anyways, let's start with them, OK?
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There's been so much going on and honestly, I thought at this
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point the whole Travis Kelsey football thing would have been
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over at least like the football events.
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And now that we're gearing up towards another football season,
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I'm like, holy shit, I can't take it anymore.
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It's like so crazy. It's too much, and it's so
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overboard with the PR and the marketing that it's actually
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kind of ridiculous. You'll notice when I talk about
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these three sets of couples in their PR relationships.
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Not the same in the dynamics, right?
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But there's some similar things. And one of the similar things is
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that these are like planned paparazzi outings.
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And whenever they have big announcements in their
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relationships, it's told to us in the form of a pap walk or an
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event or a photo shoot or like something that's very formal.
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Because their relationships are catered towards the public and
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not catered towards themselves as individuals, right?
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And that's a huge part of Taylor and Travis's relationship.
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Any big news or any time that they're hanging out, it's very
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much catered towards the public. It's a public work event.
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It's an event that people can spectate at.
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OK, So they're going to public restaurants, they're going to
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public concerts, they're going to these events, they're going
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to places where people can witness them.
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They can do a little pap walk. Do you see what I mean?
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They're not doing a lot of private gatherings.
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Or maybe they have like a picture of them sneaking in.
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It's very much like the pops know where they are before they
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get there. Another huge aspect of Taylor
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and Travis's PR relationship. And this is even besides the
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whole gay thing in the bearding, right?
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For both of them, because I do believe that they are mutually
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beneficial beards, but that's not necessarily the case for
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other PR relationships, right? The big thing for them is that
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it is beyond just bearding and is also business promotion and
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especially on Travis's end. As we know Taylor Swift knows
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how she's perceived. She is trying to appeal towards
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like men and conservatives more the last few years and it is
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making her audience grow by so much.
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Conservatives and also like girls who kind of like appealed
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towards like men have hated her in the past.
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It was kind of like popular to hate Taylor Swift.
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So she's flipping this narrative by like dating this football
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player and going to these like Friday events and everyone's
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like, Oh my God, she's so cool. So that's extremely beneficial
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for her. Her audience has like beyond
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tripled, quadrupled, whatever, and obviously she was country
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and not talking about politics before, but now it's almost like
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going towards that. I think personally, my theory
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about this too is that she wants to get to the peak of her fame
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before she loses it all. And I think she's relishing the
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last few years of her being famous and she thinks that this
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is the last few years of her potential to be so huge.
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And so she's like milking it for all she's got.
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That's my theory. But let's talk about Travis and
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benefit of this relationship because there's so many
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benefits. It has opened him up to so many
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opportunities. It's absolutely fucking
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unbelievable. Before he was an athlete, he was
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a very famous athlete, yes. Now he is one of the most famous
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celebrities on the planet. OK, That is not the same thing
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as when he was before. So people are saying like, Oh my
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God, he's still like, you know, he was a celebrity before.
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It's like, guys, this is a whole other level.
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And you know it. But it is beyond just like films
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and it's beyond TV shows and it's beyond just simply fame.
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It's also brand deals and it's sponsorships and it's big
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fucking money. And he admits it.
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So all of these creators, and also who's going to invite me
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here, by the way, and all of these marketing specialists went
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to Can Lions 2025, which is in the South of France.
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This was a few weeks ago. And apparently it's the
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International Festival of creativity.
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So it's kind of like Can Part 2, Travis Kelsey was there and he
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did this interview and literally in this interview he's talking
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about how when he goes to different types of restaurants
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and he goes to different sporting games and different
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leagues like the NHL, hockey and like baseball and like tennis,
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these games that he's brought Taylor Swift to.
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He said in this interview he does that to show brands and
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companies that he's open to other opportunities and that he
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is like, you know, would be open to brands that are not just
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football brands or to go to these restaurants because he's
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into food and to go to different cities to show that these cities
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want to work with him. He said this so Swifties are out
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here being like, leave them alone, leave them alone.
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You know, they're just trying to mine their business at a
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restaurant. Meanwhile, this is a calculated
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business decision. And he has now admitted this.
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That's how you know this relationship is PR.
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OK. And when I say PR, does that
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mean there is there is no potential for them to be in a
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romantic relationship? No, it could be mutually
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beneficial in APR sense and they could also be romantically
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intertwined. The point is that the
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calculation behind every date move is there, so I don't know
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why you would want to be in a relationship where every time
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you have a date it's based on a business decision.
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But that's the situation that they're in.
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So I don't know what their relationship, what the extent
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is, if they're a fucking Poly cool or whatever.
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Personally, I don't think that they're romantically together.
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That's y'all's prerogative. But the point is that when
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they're going out in the town, it's not because they just want
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to eat dinner in Florida. It's not because they're just
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fucking around and going to the US Open.
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OK, And don't get me started on the fact that Mama Kelsey is
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going to be on Traitors and Jason Kelsey is now doing all
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these opportunities and Kylie Kelsey has a podcast.
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It is like it is transformed the family.
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The other huge thing and telltale sign when it comes to
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PR relationships is that their true relationships are sometimes
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kind of always around, but in the background, a hidden
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character if you will, like fucking Ross Travis or Karlie
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Kloss. When Taylor Swift was dating
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Calvin Harris, Karlie Kloss was always around.
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OK, Ross, Travis went to New York City with Travis Kelsey
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when Travis Kelsey went on a one day date with Taylor Swift.
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You're telling me within one day Ross has to be there?
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Ross has to be with you, your best friend.
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Like, no, he doesn't have to be there.
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He was also in Nashville at this fucking TEU event, whatever the
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fuck this means. Tight end University.
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Of course, he was there too, OK, The true relationship is always
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there. So there's a beneficial aspect
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for marketing and brands and promoting yourself in a business
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sense with this relationship with Taylor Swift.
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And then it's also covering the fact that you are gay.
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And by the way, there's only been 11 openly gay football
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player. So don't tell me he could just
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come out because he can't. It would ruin his career.
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He would just become the gay guy, which he doesn't want to
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be. So he gets like a win win
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situation because he gets very famous, he gets a lot of money,
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amazing opportunities. He gets to bring Ross everywhere
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and no one really suspects a thing besides Gaylors and no one
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listens to Gaylors. So it's not like it's a bad
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thing. And you get to date Taylor
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Swift, date Taylor Swift. And on top of all of this,
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Taylor and Travis going to New York City.
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They went to the restaurant in Karlie Kloss's apartment
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complex. Why do they have to go there?
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They didn't. If the if Taylor Swift hates
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Curly Kloss so much, why are they always going to her
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apartment? Oh wait.
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Also, I mean there's been so many events the past like 2
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weeks it's like almost impossible to even talk about
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all of it. But when they went to that
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hockey game where everyone was like Oh my God they're so cute.
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Taylor and Travis are so cute together.
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Ross was sitting right there. And did you guys see the video
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of that lip reader who is like trying to figure out what Taylor
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and Travis are talking about? And Travis is showing Taylor a
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picture, a video of some man and he's complimenting his eyes and
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being like, oh, the big guy's got got great eyes.
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And Taylor's like that's crazy. Like he's literally talking
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about a man and it's probably his boyfriend cannot deal with
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this whole TEU event that's fucking sponsored by Dude wipes.
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It is the most fratty conservative shit I've ever seen
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in my life and this Taylor Swift era I don't love.
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It also feels like the people that are obsessed with her right
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now and are specifically obsessed with her and Travis
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have completely missed the mark on her.
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And like being a fan of music, I feel like I am really interested
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in her marketing and I'm very interested in her branding.
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And I'm also very mostly interested in her lyrics and her
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as a singer, you know, like I'm a fan.
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And I feel like nowadays people are more obsessed with them as a
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relationship and not her. Because like in my day of being
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a fan during like the 1989 era, the Reputation era or the Red
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era or whatever. And of course I was a fan before
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that. But like, I guess the Internet,
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when the Internet kind of like was a part of fan culture, no
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one was really talking about her relationships that just like
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wasn't really a part of it or like specifically like they were
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talking about it. But wasn't this like obsession
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that I see? And it wasn't the prime focus of
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being a fan. It's just weird and fucking her
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being in a red carpet with Travis Kelsey that's sponsored
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by Dude Wipes is making me want to vomit.
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Anyways, let's move on. So very PR kind of cringy at
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this point. More than kind of very cringy at
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this point. And they're both gay and they
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love bringing their significant others everywhere that they are,
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AKA Curly Kloss and Ross Travis. I am actually not even really
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sure about the whole Carly Kloss thing.
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I don't know if they're even still together, but I do think
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that Taylor Swift is still obsessed with her, whatever that
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means. But let's move on.
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OK, Let's move on to another PR relationship in Hollywood
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because a lot of people are saying, OK, guys, this doesn't
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happen anymore. No one's in PR relationships.
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Like, this is a thing of the past.
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And, you know, people can be gay in real life now, so they don't
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need to do that. Well, you would be surprised how
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many celebrities care more about their brand and their, you know,
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money than they actually do about living authentic lives.
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I know that feels so foreign to us because I can't imagine, you
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know, lying about a relationship relationship for decades or my
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entire life just so I can make money and, like, appear straight
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and famous. But a lot of famous people are
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sick in the head. OK, We forgot people are famous.
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People love to be famous, and that matters to them more than
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their actual real lives. It really does.
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So that's why they are convincing themselves of this.
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You know, this happens still, OK, It happens a lot.
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And as much as we, you know, have moved as a society towards
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being more friendly towards gay people, you are treated as a gay
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celebrity. So when you are a famous person
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that has like marketed yourself as a certain way to change that
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and become gay, changes your entire fan base.
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If Hugh Jackman comes out as gay, all of these 40 year old
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moms won't like him anymore. They'll like they're not going
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to be sexually attracted to him anymore.
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You lose like all your fans with Nick Jonas, you know, he's like
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this boy heartthrob. If he comes out as gay, it's
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kind of like, where are the girls thirsting over him?
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They would be gone. They would be like, Oh my God
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stand, but they wouldn't like thirst over him.
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And that's a lot of his streams, right, A lot of the donors
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brother streams. Taylor Swift, you know, has been
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like a relatable girl who's dated guys and has had her heart
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broken by guys. She will lose a lot of her fans
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that wouldn't understand her even if they weren't homophobic,
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right? It would just change your fan
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base. So Hugh Jackman and Sutton
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Foster, this is going to be more focused on Hugh Jackman because
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Sutton Foster's kind of irrelevant in the story, but it
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is very much still APR relationship.
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So Hugh and his wife, his ex-wife Deborah Lee Furness,
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they divorced a couple of years ago after like almost 30 years
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of marriage. OK, they adopted kids together.
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Another thing that you will see in a lot of these PR
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relationships, especially when they are gay beard slash PR
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relationships, is that a lot of these couples won't have
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biological children together. Disclaimer, do I think that not
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having biological kids together means you're less close or that
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you are less, you know, physically intimate or that you
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are less of a real relationship or any of that?
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No. And that's not the only thing
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that goes into it. But when you are in a pure
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relationship, it's kind of an easy way to not have to have.
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It's a way to not have to have sex with this person you're not
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actually married to, you're not actually romantically with.
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And a lot of these couples want to have families.
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They want to have a family. So they're like, OK, wait, this
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is the best way for me to like have a family.
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This is my friend, right? This is my business partner.
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But it's also someone they love and trust as like a friend
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usually. And they still want to like have
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a family and then be able to like fuck people on the side or
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like have a real relationship on the side.
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So it's their way to have a family.
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Not have to have sex with their fake husband or fake wife,
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right? But yes.
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So Deborah Lee Furnace and Hugh Jackman adopted kids together
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and he has now had gay rumors since the early 2000s.
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He has denied these, obviously. And listen, I also want to talk
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about gay rumors in general, OK? First of all, it shouldn't be
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disturbing to anyone. No one should be upset if they
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have gay rumors. He's been like oh it's annoying
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because it's not true. Why would it be annoying though?
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And even feel the need to address that?
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Like I just don't get it. And also, if there are that many
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gay rumors, it's usually probably true because most
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actors don't have gay rumors. Most actresses don't have like,
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persistently gay rumors. So why, you know, why do these
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specific ones have them? And that's not the only proof.
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Like, obviously going into these PR relationships, there's a lot
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of more, you know, evidence. This is less about evidence and
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convincing and more like examples of PR relationships.
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OK, Obviously I don't know for sure, whatever, whatever.
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But like, kind of the word going around town, OK.
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And not just random people, like insiders.
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OK, word travels around. Like, George Clooney has never
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had, like, gay rumors. Chris Evans has never had, like,
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gay rumors. Idris Elba has never had, like,
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gay rumors. Like, why are some having
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persistent gay rumors for decades and others haven't?
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It's usually because there's a reason.
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And OK, let's say it's not true. You're fine.
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Like, it'll, you'll be OK because you're straight.
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You know, he may also be bisexual.
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He could be bisexual, but the PR going into relationships is kind
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of beyond that. It makes me doubt that in with
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Sutton Foster and the PR going into it.
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I don't know why you would need so much PR if like you were
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totally in an authentic relationship with this woman.
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It's like, you don't need all that.
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OK, So he has been tied to bisexual filmmaker Bryan Singer,
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who Bryan Singer is a bad character, bad person.
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He has allegations of sexual assault and misconduct.
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So it's not like he's like a good guy to ship with him, of
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course. But there have been, you know,
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rumors of them in a relationship together.
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They work together on movies, I guess.
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But after Hugh and Deborah Lee Furnace divorced, there was all
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this meaning going around and there's like still articles
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being like, apparently this is in the works that Deborah Lee
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Furnace is apparently planning to write a tell all book about
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their marriage and about what happened.
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And that allegedly Hugh, you know, tried to pay her off and
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tried to, you know, bake it into the contract that she couldn't
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do that, right would be T OK. And I also think we need to
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remember when you are in drama, when you are an actor, when you
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are a celebrity, a lot of gay people are into drama.
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Gay people are everywhere. So like a lot of these
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celebrities, more of these celebrities are gay.
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More of them have to be gay statistically wise.
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But let's go into the PR relationship that is Hugh and
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Sutton. So pretty much Hugh and Sutton
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went public in early 2025 with a very, very PR pop walk.
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And like, again, if you start paying attention to like pop
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walks and like what celebrities look like when they are actually
22:45
caught off guard versus when it's a planned pop walk, you can
22:48
literally tell, OK, there's a camera right in front of their
22:52
face as they're walking holding hands.
22:54
And another reminder, 'cause this was taken in Santa Monica,
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paparazzi don't just sit on every corner in LA.
23:01
They're not just always around. Unless you are like Justin
23:05
Bieber or, you know, Taylor Swift, who actually does get
23:09
paparazzi that are following her around or like the Kardashians.
23:12
There is not a paparazzi following Hugh Jackman's car
23:17
everywhere. OK, This is a called pop walk.
23:20
And even for Taylor Swift, she does have called pop walks and
23:24
she also does uncalled pop walks.
23:26
And you can literally tell based on if she wants to be shown or
23:29
not. You can literally tell.
23:31
And the other way you can tell is like, is it before or after
23:34
she gets somewhere? You know what I mean?
23:36
Is it before or after she gets somewhere?
23:38
Is it after the buzzes that she's at a restaurant and the
23:41
paparazzi comes or the paparazzi waiting at a restaurant before
23:44
she even gets there? How did they know where she was
23:46
going to go? OK, so back to LA.
23:50
There's not just paparazzi sitting around waiting for a
23:54
random night walk of Sutton Foster and Hugh Jackman.
23:58
They didn't get caught here. OK, This was a planned photo op.
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I've also talked to paparazzi in LA.
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One time I was like walking out of a club in LA and there was a
24:06
paparazzi guy waiting for Queen Latifah.
24:10
I did meet Queen Latifah inside the club.
24:12
It was awesome and she's very nice.
24:14
But I asked the paparazzi, and I was like, are you just waiting
24:16
here? Like, how did you know, 'cause
24:19
like, even celebrity hotspots, there's not just paparazzi
24:22
waiting out there, OK? They get called.
24:24
And he was like, yeah, I got called by Queen Latifah.
24:26
I was like, I fucking knew it. And that's just not one
24:28
instance. This is like, well, no
24:29
knowledge. OK.
24:30
So they called paparazzi to debut their relationship.
24:35
And there's like other, you know, pop walks of them, like
24:37
smiling and laughing and like the cameras like 3 feet in front
24:40
of their faces. And not all pop walks mean that
24:44
it's APR relationship. But when you add up all of these
24:47
situations, especially the fact that Hugh Jackman has had so
24:50
many gay rumors and then he had this divorce with Deborah and
24:53
all these rumors about a tell all book.
24:56
He's like, wait, I look like a single gay man right now.
24:59
I need a relationship. And that's what happened.
25:03
So Hugh and Sutton did work together in the Music Man on
25:06
Broadway in 2022 to 2023. Usually these celebrities find
25:12
PR relationships based off people also in the industry or
25:16
people that they know and trust and that they've met before
25:20
Taylor Swift knew of Travis, Kelsey probably threw Karlie
25:23
Kloss who had met him before Taylor Swift did.
25:26
Sutton and Hugh were friends before this right?
25:30
Nick Jonas and Priyanka had known each other in the
25:32
industry. So you want to pick people who
25:34
you trust, not like randos like these are vetted people.
25:39
So that is like one of the most obvious PR relationships right
25:42
now. Oh my God, I feel like I should
25:43
have talked about Gigi Hadid and Bradley Cooper because Bradley
25:46
Cooper is another one. Maybe we'll do another episode
25:48
on that like season 3. That'd be fun.
25:50
All right, let's talk about Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra.
25:53
So this feels like such an obvious one to me.
25:56
And, and it just seems almost more likely than Hugh Jackman
26:00
and Son Foster even to me. I was a huge, huge, huge Jonas
26:05
Brothers fan growing up. Like I went to as many concerts
26:08
as I could. Like I had their posters on my
26:10
wall everywhere. Like I was obsessed with Nick
26:12
Jonas. Like literally so fucking
26:16
obsessed. Probably because he's like a
26:17
feminine female voice. Just love the Jonas Brothers.
26:21
Not until like a few years ago when I like my Spidey gay senses
26:24
started going off or as I like, wait, it's giving gay.
26:27
And then I didn't realize that a lot of other people were saying
26:29
this too. And he has actually a lot of gay
26:31
rumors a lot. And it really actually makes
26:35
sense. The timing of everything is
26:37
almost too good. They started dating and they got
26:40
married all within one year. Like less than a year.
26:43
Did they start dating, get engaged, plan an elaborate
26:48
Indian wedding and got married within less than a year?
26:53
If you're younger, that doesn't seem that crazy.
26:56
That's like, ridiculous. Like, what are you rushing
26:59
towards? Are you pregnant and 16?
27:02
Like what's happening? There's no need to rush.
27:04
And it turns out there's a real reason why they did this in such
27:08
a small time. Ralph Lauren coincidentally
27:11
invited them both to the Mechella and his designs.
27:15
This was I think in 2017. And another, like, big signifier
27:19
of PR relationships is when they have a very clear meeting story
27:24
because like, the media wants to pick up on that.
27:26
So the media can be like, Oh my God, they met at the Met Gala
27:29
when they were both working with Ralph Lauren.
27:31
Oh my God, Travis Kelsey wanted to give Taylor Swift a bracelet.
27:35
Oh my God, Sutton and Hugh met because they were working
27:39
together and they were friends. Like, it's a clear meeting time.
27:43
It's not just like, oh, we knew of each other and we met at a
27:45
party and started hooking up. OK.
27:47
It's almost like a PG version of romantic stories that are not
27:52
realistic in real life, where like you would probably just
27:55
like start fucking this person and then start dating.
27:59
But that's not a fun story to tell the media, is it?
28:01
And it's probably because it didn't happen.
28:03
So you're like, how did we meet? How are we going to say we met?
28:06
OK, so they met when Ralph Lauren coincidentally invited
28:11
them both to the Met Gala and his designs.
28:13
And then a year later they had started dating.
28:16
At this point, the story is that they Oh my God, they just like
28:19
had this moment, but they went on with their two lives and then
28:21
they like reconvened or whatever.
28:23
It also probably worked out because like Nick had like
28:25
already met Priyanka and he was like, OK, wait, this will be a
28:28
good person for my PR relationship, right?
28:33
Nick also does give me bisexual vibe.
28:35
So there's a chance he could be bisexual.
28:37
But like the relationship is so PR it's it's hard to believe
28:42
that they're romantically together.
28:44
Priyanka I do not think is like a lesbian.
28:46
I think she as the most attention hungry celebrity you
28:50
could find out there. She would do anything for fame.
28:53
So that's what I think the dynamic is.
28:55
They started dating in May 2018, OK, by July, July.
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So less than a few months later, they were engaged.
29:04
They were engaged after this few months.
29:07
All right, He was 25, which is so fucking young.
29:11
She was 35. OK, 10 year difference.
29:15
He's 25. I don't know why within a few
29:18
months of dating her they're engaged, but whatever.
29:23
Again, you will find out in a few minutes why they had such an
29:27
expedited situation. But in December they were
29:31
married. So July they were engaged.
29:33
December they were married. That's fucking crazy.
29:36
Remember they had to plan this elaborate wedding.
29:38
So only a few months into their relationship they're planning a
29:41
wedding? That's fucking bizarre.
29:43
May they start dating? December they are married.
29:45
What's happening here? OK, why again, do you ask, was
29:51
this happening again? Why was it so quick?
29:53
The Jonas Brothers, their comeback, their major comeback
29:57
after like maybe it was like a decade or something.
30:01
Probably longer than that. I think a little over a decade,
30:04
a little under a decade, I don't know.
30:05
It felt like a long time. Their comeback was only three
30:08
months after Nick and Priyanka's wedding in March, Sucker was
30:13
released. This huge major comeback and the
30:16
theme of this album, which I think it's called Happiness
30:19
Begins. I actually didn't enjoy this
30:21
album. I did.
30:23
The whole theme of the album was like, we're all happy.
30:26
We've all finally grown up and all found our wives.
30:29
We're starring them in the music video, which by the way, it
30:32
hasn't even been a whole fucking year since Nick and Priyanka
30:35
even started dating, like going on dates and she's in music
30:40
videos and they're married and the whole branding of their
30:42
album is like full circle. We're all happy.
30:47
And I think Nick Jonas A, probably wanted a beard, B,
30:53
needed a partner for this full circle moment so that all three
30:58
of the brothers could be married or like, with significant
31:01
relationships. And all the girls are like, you
31:05
know, parading behind them as this like, full circle family
31:07
moment for their comeback. It's so crazy.
31:11
And this is what I'm saying. Like, it's similar to the Travis
31:14
Kelce and Taylor Swift situation where it's like two birds with
31:17
one stone. It makes sense for your
31:19
business, and it also makes sense to cover your gay ass.
31:22
Do they all have their happily ever after?
31:25
And literally a year before, they were probably planning
31:28
this. And they're like, Nick, you
31:30
know, you're single, man, we need you to be married.
31:34
He's like, OK, but I'll find someone.
31:36
And he did. It's fucking crazy.
31:39
Also similar to the Sutton and Hughes situation, they welcomed
31:42
a daughter via surrogacy. Again, Priyanka at this point
31:47
was in her late 30s, mid to late 30s.
31:51
And so like, I get it, totally valid that like, you know, not
31:54
everyone's able to have kids biologically and using your
32:00
body. And I totally respect the choice
32:04
to use surrogacy to have kids, but it just adds to the PR of
32:09
it. It just adds to the potential
32:11
that they're not actually in a romantic relationship.
32:14
And it's a way to avoid intimacy.
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Do you guys get what I'm throwing down?
32:18
It doesn't mean that when you do that, I think that you're a gay
32:21
couple together. But when all the other things
32:23
add up, it's just like and nail in the coffin.
32:27
So Nick has also had game rumors.
32:30
He has been tied to Aaron Rodgers in the past.
32:33
They've been on vacations together.
32:35
There's a picture I'm going to put up right now of Aaron
32:37
Rodgers holding Nick Jonas's neck very like intimately.
32:41
They've played golf together. They've been like on beach
32:43
vacations with no one else there.
32:45
And all of these rumors were happening.
32:47
And I wasn't really tuned into this, unfortunately, at the
32:49
time, before he got married to Priyanka, like a few years
32:54
before he got married to Priyanka.
32:55
And then him and Aaron continue to hang out throughout
32:58
Priyanka's throughout, you know, being married to Priyanka, like
33:02
Aaron Rodgers has gone to like, birthday events and family
33:05
events. Like, why is he such a part of
33:06
your family? Who is he giving you guys?
33:08
Is giving Ross Travis? It's crazy.
33:11
We need to open our eyes up, OK? People are in peer
33:15
relationships. And it's like, right in front of
33:17
our faces too sometimes. Like they're not hiding it
33:19
enough that it seems so apparent to me.
33:23
And I'm like, guys, this is really obvious.
33:26
And I don't care why other people are seeing it.
33:27
And I think that they can afford to be obvious with it because
33:30
like most people think, of course, why would they lie to
33:32
us? You know, most people are not
33:35
gaylors. Most people are not.
33:37
I think we need a word for people that, like, are gaylors
33:40
and also think that other celebrities are gay.
33:43
I'll try to come up with it. OK.
33:44
I also found this article when I was, like, doing research for
33:46
this episode. This is from 2016, so a couple
33:49
years before Priyanka Chopra. And this was, you know, when
33:52
there's like, gay rumors going on about him.
33:54
And I will give him credit. It's not like he's distanced
33:56
himself from the gay community. He's performed like, at Pride
34:00
events and he's talked about, you know, the gay speculation.
34:04
And so that's why I almost do think he might be bisexual
34:08
because he seems like he's owning it, but also maybe just
34:12
because he feels like he doesn't want to lie to himself but also
34:17
be in this relationship. I don't know.
34:18
It's probably more complicated than I'm making it seem.
34:21
But I do think that this is APR relationship and he is gay in
34:24
some way. But here's the article.
34:27
The article is quote. This is from HuffPost.
34:30
So, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
34:31
Nick Jonas would be lying if he said he hasn't had gay sex.
34:37
Give me a second. A quote from him is on Kingdom.
34:40
I have a sex scene with a guy. So he's talking about, you know,
34:44
filming, right? He says, quote, it's my lips,
34:49
it's my hands, it's my body. Even if I'm playing a character.
34:54
So technically I have done that. So I wouldn't say I haven't
34:58
because that would be lying. Crazy.
35:03
How did this article not go viral?
35:04
Like, how did no one else pick up on this?
35:06
Or maybe I just like miss it at the time.
35:08
But like, listen, yes, it's true.
35:12
Like, OK, let's say he's straight.
35:14
This is true. This is a true comment that
35:16
like, when you're filming this scene, you are still technically
35:19
doing that. It just seems like such a gay
35:21
answer because I feel like his gay brain is like, listen, I
35:25
don't want to lie about myself. I want to say that I technically
35:28
have had gay sex because it would be like lying to my core
35:31
if I didn't, you know? And I feel like he found a way
35:33
to do it. And then media was like, Oh my
35:35
God. It's because he's like, you
35:36
know, talking about sex scenes. Meanwhile he's like, I've had
35:38
gay sex. It's in my body like crazy.
35:43
Also, again, like the Jonas Brothers grew up very
35:45
religiously. They wore purity rings.
35:47
What is born from sexual repression, sexual liberation.
35:51
I'm Catholic. I grew up Catholic.
35:53
There's definitely something to be said for people who are
35:55
deeply religious almost turning out more gay than not, because
35:58
it's almost makes you like, want to be curious and want to
36:02
explore and want to understand yourself.
36:03
Like, once you're out of it and honestly, like when you're
36:05
repressed and told not to think about it, I think it makes you
36:08
more curious about things that are forbidden.
36:11
Something to be said about that. But yeah, Priyanka and Nick are
36:15
just the most PR couple ever. Like when they started dating,
36:18
they did all these like, comments on each other's
36:20
Instagram posts. Like, if you're next to this
36:22
person, like, why are you like, Oh my God, scrolling through
36:24
your Instagram, love you. Like, this isn't middle school.
36:27
Like a lot of these PR relationships, they come off
36:29
very PG because they're appealing towards the masses and
36:33
they're not being authentic towards like their self.
36:37
And it's a lot of like people who have idealistic views of
36:40
celebrities and like younger people that are kind of
36:42
fantasizing about the idea of relationships that fell that
36:45
fall victim into obsessing over them.
36:48
And that's why there's a blindness to towards it because
36:51
they feed into this like romantic view of relationships
36:55
with a very clear timeline and a very clear like this is how we
36:58
met. And like a picture of them on
37:00
their first date, which is not normal.
37:03
It's not normal to have a picture of someone walking into
37:06
their first date and then everyone can point out that's
37:08
their first date. That's not normal.
37:10
And that's not how normal relationships start.
37:12
So those are just some examples of some other PR relationships
37:16
that are going on in Hollywood. There are way more than we know.
37:20
Relationships in Hollywood are messy and weird.
37:22
And honestly, they're all freaks and they're probably all like
37:25
polyamorous, like weird relationships.
37:27
Like that's like, true. That's not even like a
37:30
conspiracy theory because at the end of the day, people that are
37:36
this famous literally care more about keeping their fame and the
37:40
image of themselves. And they do about, again, their
37:43
authenticity and like being honest and like living the life
37:48
that, you know, they would have if they were normal because
37:51
like, they don't really want that.
37:53
They want the fame. That's why they're famous and
37:56
that's why they like continue to do these pop shots.
37:58
They call the paparazzi on a date night.
38:00
That's not normal. You know what you guys think?
38:02
I think I'm really going to do an episode on Gigi Hadid and
38:06
Bradley Cooper probably next season because I kind of forgot
38:09
about them and they're gay asses.
38:13
I will see you guys in Season 3. Exciting stuff coming up that
38:17
I'm working on and just excited to share some things exciting
38:25
and I do think that we should all vote to, you know, extend
38:29
pride for another month because this was a wash.
38:32
Love you guys stay cold. God, it's so fucking hot out
38:36
everywhere and you know, consume gay media.
38:41
I think that'll help. OK guys, I will see you season
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