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Summer Gardening Strategies & Seasonal Maintenance [6.21.25] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio show with Brian
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  Speaker 1: John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we are back on Garden America. And now the
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  Speaker 2: reason for that long and usual break is this week
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  Speaker 2: we have a lot of sponsors, more than we've had
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  Speaker 2: in the past, so we had forty sponsors. We had
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  Speaker 2: to squeeze in there before we returned for the second
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  Speaker 2: segment of Garden America on your Saturday morning. If you
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  Speaker 2: are indeed listening to us live, so we are back.
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  Speaker 3: You said during the break that it was electrical problem.
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  Speaker 3: We were losing power at some serious.
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  Speaker 2: Seat, which is interesting because one of our sponsors is
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  Speaker 2: a power company. So anyway, this, if you're keeping track,
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  Speaker 2: is our second segment on BIS Talk Radio and Facebook line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you left, we don't blame.
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  Speaker 2: You, right, but we are back. Well, you know, Tiger
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  Speaker 2: did a good job. He's very you know, he's dedicated
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  Speaker 2: to the problem solving of this show, aren't you.
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  Speaker 4: I am dedicated to the problem solving.
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  Speaker 5: Of this show.
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  Speaker 2: So we are back. And if you did leave, then
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  Speaker 2: you can't hear us right now.
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  Speaker 4: But if you didn't, welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I kind of have a serious fun thing
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to talk about because John had such a
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  Speaker 4: wonderful article in the newsletter this week regarding the man
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  Speaker 4: break route, and I was going to ask the question
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  Speaker 4: to our listeners. What is it that you plant in
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  Speaker 4: your garden that is a cure, a remedy or something
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  Speaker 4: and you just simply planted to have it, Like, for instance,
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  Speaker 4: I have lemongrass in my garden. I have a Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so you have al vera.
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  Speaker 2: It works on burns and sores.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And you keep it there just as.
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  Speaker 2: Right outside the front door, perfect like a little medicine
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  Speaker 2: cabinet outside the front.
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  Speaker 4: Door, medicine cabin.
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  Speaker 3: I've told the story on the radio before, but when
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  Speaker 3: we first moved to California, I was working in San
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  Speaker 3: Marcos and we had a big alo vera plant outside
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  Speaker 3: the nursery and my son, who was nine months old
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  Speaker 3: at the time, was walking and which was kind of
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  Speaker 3: unusual for a nine month old. But he in our
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  Speaker 3: in the house we had moved into, pulled down the
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  Speaker 3: tablecloth and there was a pot of hot tea that
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  Speaker 3: he pulled down and it burnt. It fell on him
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  Speaker 3: and burned it shoulder.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the quack doctor what he told you going.
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  Speaker 3: So we rushed him to the hospital. But on the
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  Speaker 3: way to the hospital, I had to go buy the
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  Speaker 3: nursery and the yellow plant was in front of the nursery.
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  Speaker 3: So I stopped got the aloe and we started rubbing
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  Speaker 3: it on him all the way to the hospital and
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  Speaker 3: he stopped crying as soon as we did that.
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  Speaker 2: Very cooling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's really cooling. Well, when we got to
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  Speaker 3: the hospital, the the doctor was all upset and said,
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  Speaker 3: never put anything, you know, on a burn, except for ice.
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  Speaker 3: And he said he'll probably have permanent scarring now because
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  Speaker 3: of this, So I mean really, yeah, So they wiped
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  Speaker 3: off all the alo. He started screaming again, but then
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  Speaker 3: they put something on calmed them down a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: We went home and three days later we're supposed to
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  Speaker 3: have a follow up visit to the doctor. We went
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  Speaker 3: and burn was completely gone, completely healed. Yeah, and doctor
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  Speaker 3: said he couldn't figure out why. I'm concerned. I believe
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  Speaker 3: it was because of the ALM.
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  Speaker 2: Of course it was.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean there's a lot of medicines out there
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  Speaker 4: that are real medicine and they're just simple plant.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we were talking earlier before the show or maybe
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  Speaker 3: during the extended break, we were talking about how all
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  Speaker 3: virtually all the medicines we have today came from plants.
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  Speaker 3: I know, some come from you know, like other creatures
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  Speaker 3: like sharks and things.
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  Speaker 4: But remember, remember, but those are plants.
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  Speaker 2: That doctor of yours is a good example of. If
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  Speaker 2: I didn't read about it medical school, if it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: taught to me, it can't work. So it's it's and
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  Speaker 2: then we've come a long way since then, right obviously.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Tiger and I were also talking about guests we
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  Speaker 3: had on the show a couple of years ago, Cassandra
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  Speaker 3: quave Right, and in her her whole life is devoted
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  Speaker 3: to studying, studying history right to find out what they
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  Speaker 3: used to use to treat things when they didn't have doctors,
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  Speaker 3: because really it hasn't been that long we've actually had
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  Speaker 3: modern medicine that was available to people, what they used,
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  Speaker 3: and she tests those plants and finds out what the
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  Speaker 3: substances in that plant that actually is helped. Well, so
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  Speaker 3: that's a whole new area of medicine.
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  Speaker 4: And it and it's really interesting because it goes beyond
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  Speaker 4: just medicine from the standpoint of you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think we all know this. A really basic example
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  Speaker 4: of this is our teeth. You know, before before dentists
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  Speaker 4: existed and toothbrushes and all the wonderful things that they
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  Speaker 4: sell to us to keep our teeth healthy and strong.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we might not have had great teeth as humans,
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  Speaker 4: but our but our teeth were okay. And well then
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  Speaker 4: like candy race, well then it's like now candy cuts
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  Speaker 4: about diet, different foods come about, carbohydrates and all these
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  Speaker 4: things that now breed the issues with tooth decay. And
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  Speaker 4: now we have way more problems with tooth to gay
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  Speaker 4: because of our diet versus before when we were eating
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  Speaker 4: basic plants.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, hygiene can affects affect your whole.
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  Speaker 4: True, yeah, exactly, So, so it goes beyond just like
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  Speaker 4: a medicine. It also has to go to the point of,
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  Speaker 4: you know, did we really need did we really need
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  Speaker 4: a high fructose cone cord and syrup?
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  Speaker 3: Did they have sugar before?
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  Speaker 4: Sugar sugar cane and molasses.
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  Speaker 3: Sugar cane would have come from tropical country.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Caribbean, And I think that whole, that whole region
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  Speaker 4: was the birthplace of it all.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So prior to Columbus, there was no sugar.
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  Speaker 2: I think the sugar in Europe wasn't that old, you know,
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  Speaker 2: with cinnamon and all those spices and stuffy.
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  Speaker 4: Sugar traded honey and molasses and then like other like
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  Speaker 4: syrups existed before sugar, like as like a sweetness.
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  Speaker 2: That's what they used just for sweeteners.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean honey was back, and even.
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  Speaker 2: Well John Baptiste, you know what do you they survived
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  Speaker 2: on John the Baptist, honey and locus.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always wondered about the locust part.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's where you get protein.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, the reason I've wondered is because carab pods,
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  Speaker 3: which grew in the area, are also referred to as
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  Speaker 3: the locus.
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  Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, so you think it wasn't the actual bug.
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  Speaker 3: Well it could have been. Yeah, I'm not really sure.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I guess you'd have to look back into
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  Speaker 3: the Hebrewer the Greek to find out what those were, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But speaking of.
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  Speaker 3: The Bible, there was a good last week. One of
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  Speaker 3: our listeners, Carla, had brought up a question that we
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  Speaker 3: didn't answer until later in the show about the man Drake,
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  Speaker 3: so got me interested to go through and write a
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  Speaker 3: little article for this week's newsletter.
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  Speaker 2: Right, so check that article out in the newsletter.
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  Speaker 3: That was about Rachel and Jacob and Leah, you know,
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  Speaker 3: talk about patients. Jacob before he wanted to marry Rachel, right,
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  Speaker 3: so he worked her dad said, you know, Rachel's dad said, well,
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  Speaker 3: if you want to marry or, you've got to work
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  Speaker 3: for me for seven.
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  Speaker 2: Years years and then she got her.
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  Speaker 3: He got her older sister, Leah, which you know really
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  Speaker 3: wasn't fair. So he had to work another seven years
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  Speaker 3: to get Rachel.
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  Speaker 2: We got a break here. Can you hold that? That's
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  Speaker 2: where the phrase best of both worlds comes from? How
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  Speaker 2: about that? We're going to take a break for BizTalk Radio,
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  Speaker 5: Is Garden America.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
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  Speaker 1: John and Tiger Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Much quicker break. We just had one sponsor there. We're
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  Speaker 2: never going to put forty sponsors back to back again.
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  Speaker 2: It just does not work. So we are back here
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  Speaker 2: in Garden America having a good time. Brian Main, John Magnesco,
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  Speaker 2: Tiger Palafox. I love it when John quotes various people,
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  Speaker 2: whether they're historical, whether they're sports figures, whether they're horticulture.
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  Speaker 2: And he has a quote this week. Yeah, and it's
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  Speaker 2: from which one of those categories.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, Gertrude Jekyl, Oh, doctor Jekyl and mister Hyde. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you remember that story.
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  Speaker 2: I sure do. And it's really Jekyl, but it became
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  Speaker 2: Jekyl at some.
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  Speaker 3: Points seeing English pronunciation.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And they were English, so it is Gertrude geek.
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  Speaker 2: Just like going out in your herb garden, so it
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  Speaker 2: actually was.
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  Speaker 3: U Jicyl and hide probably anyway, before we explain that situation.
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  Speaker 3: The quote from Uh Gertrude Jico is a famous gardener
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  Speaker 3: in the early nineteen hundreds, and she said, what's one
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  Speaker 3: to say about June the time of perfect young summer,
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  Speaker 3: the fullness of life and love and delight. And that
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  Speaker 3: was in honor of the summer.
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  Speaker 2: Solstice, which was yesterday, right, which you didn't, So summer
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  Speaker 2: you can.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the longest day of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Right right. And then in December you have the winter,
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  Speaker 2: so which is the.
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  Speaker 4: And then you have the summer equinox unless you're at
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  Speaker 4: the spring, is it the spring equinox?
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  Speaker 3: And then the fall, right, the spring equinox is the
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  Speaker 3: vernal equinox, okay, and the fall one is the autumnal equinox.
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  Speaker 2: You bring up a good point about the equator and
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  Speaker 2: on the equinox. Do you know what the day length
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  Speaker 2: is on those two days twelve and twelve?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's equal equal knox.
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  Speaker 4: So this is so the longest. So now is the
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  Speaker 4: longest day of the year always the long like meaning
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  Speaker 4: the same? So let's say it was I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what it was. So let's say there was eighteen hours
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  Speaker 4: of daylight yesterday. Is it always eighteen hours or is
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  Speaker 4: it sometimes like, oh, it's the longest day of the
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  Speaker 4: year this year, but we only get seventeen and a half.
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  Speaker 2: Is that like Thanksgiving teen or some other holiday falling
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  Speaker 2: on a different time of the month.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it always falls on the what third, the
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  Speaker 4: last Thursday? Is it the last Ursday? I think it is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, but that could be right, you know, the
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  Speaker 4: twenty fourth, It could be the twenty second. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know, John, is it always the same amount
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  Speaker 4: of daylight outwards for the longest day of the year
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  Speaker 4: or the shortest?
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  Speaker 3: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's twenty four hours we know that.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I don't think it is. I think it changes.
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  Speaker 4: I think it changes because I think it's really based
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  Speaker 4: on like a lot of a lot of angles and
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  Speaker 4: distance from the sun.
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  Speaker 2: That whole Earth access thing again exactly. Yeah, do you
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  Speaker 2: know that this is the shortest day of the year.
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  Speaker 2: Yesterday was the shortest day of the year.
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  Speaker 4: If you're thinking in terms of nighttime, yeah, hours or what?
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  Speaker 2: No, if you live in Australia, Oh okay, right, yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's the opposite, just the opposite. So you've been you've
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  Speaker 2: been down Under before, only in the airport. Oh you
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  Speaker 2: didn't know, but you were in New Zealand.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so New Zealand's not referred to it's down on.
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  Speaker 2: It's south of the equator. So here's my question there
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  Speaker 2: I got too. Well, first of all, Australia is the
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  Speaker 2: land down under. But but when you're south of the
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  Speaker 2: equator and you flushed the toilet, it goes the other way.
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  Speaker 3: You know. That was the first thing I did in
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  Speaker 3: New Zealand.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was going to ask you. Second
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  Speaker 2: of all, we have a term here that if things
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  Speaker 2: let's say, you did you start a project tiger and
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  Speaker 2: it just doesn't work, and you say, yeah, we started,
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  Speaker 2: things went south from there?
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  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah? So what you so?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Do they say, well things just went north after
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  Speaker 2: that if you're if you're down south of the equator, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: just we started the project, it didn't work, and things
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  Speaker 2: just went north.
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  Speaker 4: I think they can still keep saying south because south
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  Speaker 4: of them isn't a lot.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let me go bunch, step further. You're in Antarctica.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now, now nowhere to go?
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  Speaker 2: Now it just went east from there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's nowhere to go.
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  Speaker 4: But exactly, they always have to look at things on
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  Speaker 4: the bright side down there.
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  Speaker 2: How about questions and comments, John, I know you're checking
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  Speaker 2: out some of the people that have rejoined us. Talk
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  Speaker 2: about dedication. Yeah, I would love to say we've got
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  Speaker 2: a price for each and every one of you, But
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that it's us. I can say.
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  Speaker 4: It it is us.
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  Speaker 5: That is the yes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I never heard the Sherry mentioned that a
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  Speaker 3: few years back when she was attending the Culinary Institute
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  Speaker 3: of America. That's the c i A. She got to
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  Speaker 3: burn on the palm of her hand and the chef
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  Speaker 3: put on a slice of tomato. Tomato, Yeah, to relieve
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  Speaker 3: the pain in seconds with minimal blistering.
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  Speaker 4: What is the what is the thing? Also? Is it?
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  Speaker 4: Do all tomatoes have the was it?
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  Speaker 2: No? Lecopenes like what's good for you? Right?
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  Speaker 3: But I think Tiger's referring to indigo tomatoes, which all
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  Speaker 3: have also have antoscionis.
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  Speaker 4: But but only we do all tomatoes?
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  Speaker 3: Say what kind of tomatoes purple with the purple pigments?
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, which the next question is could all tomatoes
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  Speaker 2: react that way? I'm talking about the tomato tomato that
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  Speaker 2: that he put on the palm.
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  Speaker 3: Well this was the red one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well yeah, because her hands red and burned. So you
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  Speaker 2: put the red tomato on there. You can't see it
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  Speaker 2: anymore by the way.
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  Speaker 4: I was then, and then the chef yelled at her
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  Speaker 4: and get back.
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  Speaker 3: But I just wonder if Aultimate would put it. If
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  Speaker 3: you're done with the tomato, chop it up put in
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  Speaker 3: the south. I was thinking of the story you told
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  Speaker 3: me about you were dressing a garden club. I think, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this was recently made something up.
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  Speaker 4: Oh the one where I said the scarification scarification and
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  Speaker 4: stratify stratification, Right, you got this mixed up? No, I
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  Speaker 4: just didn't even strata scarification was cool, like it's scratching, scratching.
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  Speaker 3: That's then you can think of scar scar.
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  Speaker 4: And the stratification is when it's.
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  Speaker 3: Cold right like here in the stratosphere.
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  Speaker 4: And and I just like, was, no, that doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 3: Scare But the reason I thought of that is Veronica
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  Speaker 3: asked you a question right now. Yeah, she said, doesn't
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  Speaker 3: molasses come from caine sugar?
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  Speaker 4: Does it? I thought it was. I thought it was
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  Speaker 4: a sap too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That's a question.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think itet maple syrup out of trees, and I.
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  Speaker 4: Thought that's what molasses came from, too, But I could
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  Speaker 4: be wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Every show on the planet really relies
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  Speaker 2: on their listeners and their viewers. Yeah, because when when
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  Speaker 2: you're doing a show like.
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  Speaker 4: This, test if they're actually listening.
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  Speaker 2: Well, because when you say things that might be a
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  Speaker 2: little silly, but you're putting yourself out there. So that's
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  Speaker 2: why it's always good to say, well it could be.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see what our listeners reviewers think about that.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, Carla points out Brian, don't plan things
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  Speaker 3: too late tonight because the days they're getting shorter.
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  Speaker 2: Already, already already, and we're still a month away from
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  Speaker 2: football training camp two or whatever. It's kind of the
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  Speaker 2: beginning of winding down, you know, in the fall and winter.
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  Speaker 3: Got the rest of the story from Sherry. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 3: she said it was just a common tomato. Okay, right,
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  Speaker 3: but then she adds the chef also gave her a
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  Speaker 3: large glass of wine. Oh oh, that's funny, fuddy.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. Well, minimal scarring.
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  Speaker 4: You know, she forgot all about it.
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  Speaker 3: When we were in Costa Rica, we all or a
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  Speaker 3: lot of us. Anyway, Sherry was one tiger, I think
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  Speaker 3: was another, and my wife for sure fell in love
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  Speaker 3: with the pink Bohemia yep. And when we got back here,
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  Speaker 3: Sherry found somewhere we could order them, and I think
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  Speaker 3: we got them from Florida, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, she sent me a picture of hers doing
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  Speaker 3: great bloomed at flowers. In mind died. Oh no, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know a climate where you live.
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  Speaker 3: I was so disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: She lived in a very hot area.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, things happen. Things happen, they do.
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  Speaker 3: But I was really disappointed because my wife really liked that.
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  Speaker 3: We again, we've spent the I think it's maybe a
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  Speaker 3: little late in spring with her. But she got it
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  Speaker 3: in her head that she has to clean the back patio.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm using the back patio as the work station.
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  Speaker 3: And I've got all kinds of stuff back there.
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  Speaker 4: You know, because it's a nice sheltered area.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can say and I'm working in the area.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Well, anyway, we had to clean that all up. She
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: had to replant everything.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: It's just going to get dirty again, right, is it's
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: still your workstation?
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Well, she went out and moved she moved in.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: She bought yeah, two new lounge chairs that she set
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: up back there, and yeah, and we went.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: To John now has the lower lower area in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: full lower forty. Yeah.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she mentioned, you know, we have an umbrella in
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: the garage that we haven't used. Why don't you put
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: that up over a table and there we go side. Yeah,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: it's just not as convenience. So anyway, I'm trying to
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: keep it clean. But we had some old Uh I
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: should take a picture. Maybe I'll put one in the newsletter.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: It'll last longer.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Well, but we had a Dressina Massagana. Uh, huh uh.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: This as is.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: We've got three place of the complaining three one also
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that Yeah, we're gonna pick up discuss this when we
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: come back. I just catch this year on the Garden
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: American Paceok.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Life P.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: John and Tiger.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: All right, we are back here on Garden America. If
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: you are tuned in on biz Talk Radio keeping track
• 20:22
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• 20:25
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  Speaker 2: we continue. We're still on the air, by the way,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: as far as I know, so welcome back. Let's continue
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the conversation.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: Happened was you had and you and Tiger had everything
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: set to pre summer Soulstice settings. Oh yeah, everything was
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: getting longer and longer and longer, and now it's got
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: to be getting shorter.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: We discussed this and you said you wouldn't bring it
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: up live on the air. Well, and of course you
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: did to make us look foolish. I'd like to have
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: an open show. You want to be very transparent, Yeah,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I do want to be transparent massage.
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the plain green one.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: It has a variegation too, it's just the larger leaf one. Okay,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: but then there's fragrance.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, fragrance is the one, right, that's the plain green
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I think so, yeah, Okay. Anyway, we used to have
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: it in the house. Then we put it out on
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: the patio and put it in a planner. And at
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: the base of it, she didn't like the fact that,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: even though it's a triple stem, she didn't like the
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: fact that the base was bare. Right, that's the way
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: we grow, that's the way it is.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So we planted it up and I had it
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: had been planted up last year, and this year I
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: went through fertilized it, put everything back so it filled
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: out really nice.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: So she added a kalladium to it. So we've got
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: colius variegated fusion there. Let's see impatience and then the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: cladium and it really looks I have to admit it
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: looks awesome. And then uh, and we had some other plants.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: We had some palms that needed to be cleaned up,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: so everything got replanted, re cleaned and uh, and we'll
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: see what it does.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Did we get to Tanya's question? I think she has
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: a question about before she runs off to play with
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: her grand.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: And to be clear too, yeah, molasses comes from sugarcane
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: or sugar beets.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Oh so there were sugar beets, right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Sugar beets. They've been around for forever.
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: But did they use sugar beets?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: And I don't know, but definitely honey existed.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: When you get home, called Shannon my little sugar beet.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: Let's little sugar beet. What is Tanya's question that we
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: have to answer before she run?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I think John's reading.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I think she's having a pigeon problem. She's said that. Yeah,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: she said the neighbors had tried. By the way, she's
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: in Roseville, which is outside Sacramental, right, correct, So are
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: you moving Tanya from jo to Sacramental?
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: Anyway, she said that it's a bad pigeon problem. The
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: neighbors tried fake oals, that and CDs and shiny things,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: and now they're thinking of putting a huge net over
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the roof to keep the pigeons out.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And get rid of all the statues too. That's the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: first thing.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Statues attract pigeons.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Right now, I know that for just basic birds on fences.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: They like to put up what look like nails or
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: whatever on top of fences.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: That's what that's what they've done on buildings where pigeons
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: there's huge flocks of pigeons, you know, cities like in
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Europe and stuff. They've got those nails so they won't
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: roost there's you know land.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting when I back in the nineties,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: when I I did a reconstruction on our house, we
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: tore everything down to the very bare minimum. So we
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: put up a fence in the back. And my buddy says,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I got an idea. You know, within the stucco, we're
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: gonna put like shards of glass, just break it up.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It'll be kind of artistic looking. And then on top
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: of that, on top of the fence, we'll have like
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: different angles of glass and stuff and it'll look kind
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: of artsy and it'll keep the birds off it. I thought,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: you know what, go ahead.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Did it work?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And it worked and I liked it. It was really unusual.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Oh any other pigeon scram Yeah, ideas.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's a lot of you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: they they hid all the big ones as far as
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: you know, spikes or the predator birds, you know, but
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: a lot of it's just like other repellent kind of things.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: From the standpoint of you either have to close off
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: where it's nesting, you know, so sometimes it's ceiling up
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: any kind of like vents or openings. And then there's
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the ultrasonic things that you know, motion sensor. And then
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: they yeah, we don't know, you know, I don't think.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It's a pigeon problem. I think it's a pigeon waste problem.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Well it's what's it's what They have a lot of
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: birds too in a garden, but I mean there's a
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: lot of weight bing up stuff and whatnot.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Are pigeons that destructive? Oh yeah, I think, so what
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: do they do? Tell me what a picture to the drift?
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. That's when I say waste,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking that's the problem.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Don't have the problem without the pigeon.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: The pigeon that I know. But so the pigeon itself,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: The waste is just a byproduct of the pigeon.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: That's exactly. That's my point. So it's not the pigeon itself,
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: it's what comes out of the pigeon.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: If they learn how to use the bathroom proper.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: There you go. It's training.
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: Maybe is not a repellent issue. You have to have
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: a training course for these pigeons.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: So your your thought is if you can train them
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: to deliver notes and letters and come back home, you ought.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: To be able to your patio.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Now we have a lot of doves in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: our patio who since we've set up sort of a buffet,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: a fountain, a nest, they we don't have that problem.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: They go elsewhere. I had a long talk.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: They keep their area clean.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: They do. They don't bring it into the patio.
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: What is it? Don't don't boop where you eat? Yeah?
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: What's that like when you when when you date somebody
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that you work with. Don't fish off the company pier
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: out of the company bond.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Well, by the way, Tanya's not moving. It's her son
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: that's building a new house. And okay in Roseville. But
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: she said that the poop doesn't wash off easily, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: they get like twenty pigeons on the roof at one time.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a problem.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And it isn't that what baby guns are for?
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: There you go to and I've heard it creates like
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: problems like the poop, like as far as like staining
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: and you know all of that.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Well that was the next thing. Then you know what,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: what's the byproduct of that?
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just be glad it's not parents or you'd have
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: cydecosis to worry about.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That, which would cause unusual steepage possible.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it could, so I think if it's on the roof,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: you've got to come up with that. Those nail spikes.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: I bet you could even buy something online, right, Oh yeah,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: they have nail spikes that you can lay out.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, you have the like little sheets
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: that you can even you're saying, yeah, just attached to something,
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: but then you know they're just going to move, so
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you really it's really like a multi angle attack. Nail spikes,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: all of those things.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: We got to take a break here, I know. Oh
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: gotta stay in the clock, right.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: Darn format warning, Yeah I did.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I just jumped in. What do you want like this
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: like like five minutes to go something like that. So
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to take a break. News coming up on
• 28:12
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• 28:15
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• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Merrick Hey, welcome back, my friends, to the show that
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: sometimes ends. Well, actually, it's gonna have to end this
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: week at some point, but we are back at this
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: hour two on biz Talk Radio. Stealing a line from
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: member Emerson Lincoln Palmer, Welcome back, my friends, to the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: show that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Never ends, the book and the movie The Never Ending Story.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: What about if we did a never ending podcast?
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, well we'd have to then we never.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Have to worry about whether we can hook up.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: We'd have to have a flying dog.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He's right, the flying dog. I thought it was a dragon.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It was a dog dragon?
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: The dog?
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: Did it look like a dog?
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: I thought it looked exactly like a dragon. I mean,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: I could.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Peach dragon right what that was a Disney movie?
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Were talking about ending.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: You know, but I went I segued into peach dragon
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: because you guys can't remember if it's a dog or
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: a dragon.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: Tiger's gonna look it up.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: He'll let me know, go back to your question that
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: we read.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: If you find a picture of a flying dog, let
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: me see it, because I could. You know, I'm at
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: the point where I never say that I'm right anymore,
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: because I could easily be wrong.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Nobody's right if everybody is wrong. Very good dog, Stephen.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Still for what.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: It's worth, Well, it's a very friendly dragon. I can
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: see why you'd say it's a dog.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: That's an unusual looking critter.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I you know, and Tiger's so much younger
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: than me that he could have thought it was just
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: a big for you.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: For you was the boy, right, I don't know, and
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Falcore was the dragon.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: What are we doing John?
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: We're waiting for John to answer his question that he
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: led after the breakaway. Remember we interrupted him to forget.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I Well.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: We could have just gone on and on and he
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: never would have even referred back to it.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: But the problem was is that we cut him off,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: so we don't even know what he was talking.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you know what, we got people on Facebook
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: right now listening. So the first one that can tell
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: us what we were discussing or what John was discussing
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: before the last break let us know. Put us back
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: on track.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Well, we were talking about the pigeons, and we were
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: continuing to talk about that, but then you were going
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: to take us in another.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: I had several things I was okay, but one of
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: the things I was going to say back to the pigeons,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: was you know people put up those fake owls and stuff,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, which what you need are real owls. Yeah right,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: So put up some owl boxes or try to tract
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: real owls the area.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: Now do it? And I'm asking this question to our
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: listeners out there because owl boxes. Owls are nocturnal animals,
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: so they're going to be out there at night, flying, attacking, protecting.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: And pigeons are not necessarily nocturnal.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Right you see pigeons flying during the day and then
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: at night they go into the what.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: He brings up a good?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: So, so would an owl actually protect against the.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Pigeons sense an owl even though the owl sleeping.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Or why would they be afraid of a fake all
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: if they're not afraid of real owls because they never
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: get because.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: They never what you're saying, they never, like they don't
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: know what a real owl. In theory, they should never
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: know what a real owl is.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Crows landing on top of scarecrows. It doesn't always work.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but you know what I mean, Like, it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: it's it's interesting that is a pigeon scared of an owl?
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Because does a owl even hunt a pigeon. You know,
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I don't think that that
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: would work.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I think you're nocturnal thing is a good point.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well that was the problem in Hawaii with the mongoose.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: They were trying to get them to to get rid.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Of the snakes that have been brought over, and then
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: turns out the snake was nocturnal. In the mongoose is monkey.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Sty which are the opposite, right, what you're talking about
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: is the nocturnal equinox.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: The nocturnal, right John, which.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Is is what he's referring to. You know, it's it's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: the the owl versus pigeon, daytime versus nights.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. John and Newport Beach is mentioning that
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: his garden club put up an owl box but never occupied. No,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: and they and they thought it was because of the
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: hawks in the area. But again that would be the
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: same thing, right, Hawks would come out during the day
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the day and owls at night.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: Do you have owls in the area, do you hear them?
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, we had screech owls, which was interesting to hear.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: As opposed to a who al.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: You know, they would who also screech owls? Do who.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Who do they who? To whom.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: They do who?
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: But howl's are very beneficial to happen no matter what
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: you're trying.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about it. One of the interesting
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: things about that when they filled a baby, I'll say,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: when they cry booo. He was laughing at the.
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Joke before.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: It barely came out, but.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: You know, it just popped into my head.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: You got a hit of the joke. But when they fly,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: you can't hear them. They're silent, and that's one of
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the weapons they used to get their prey totally silent.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: We've had a lot of bird activity. As a matter
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: of fact, one morning, we woke up and Shannon and
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: I were eating eating, we were drinking our coffee out
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: on the patio and and I remarked, you know, this
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: sounds just like Costa.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Rica all the wildlife, because.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Remember you get up in the morning and Costa Rica
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: and the birds were.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I remember in the afternoon watching TV sliding glass doors open,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: and he's quite a Monday's walk. Oh yeah, I'm like,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: we followed him out there with a video. I'm chasing
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: these guys down because they're they're like post A Rica's
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: version of a raccoon.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: That was up at that hotel that was all into
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: the mountain.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: And overlooked, and we had the lightning storms.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: And where were they from? Germany? It was a family, remember,
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: and they were they were like, I.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Know, the one town we went into had a lot
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: of Germans in it. Yeah, they even had German pastries
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: and recipes in German.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: But that was a it was the there was the
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: family that came from somewhere and started that hotel. Yeah,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: it was. It was an interesting hotel.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Do you ever when you go to hotel pull back
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the sheet covers to really see what's going on?
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not a good idea. Ignorance is bliss.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: If you don't want to see.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: That mattress, Yeah, exactly.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Well it's true some people when it comes to cleanliness,
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: and you know, and some people require a mattress cover
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: when they make reservations. Oh yeah, would you put a
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: mattress cover on my bed for me?
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know where it says in the Bible cleanliness
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: is next to godliness?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Where in the Bible? Well that must be Old Testament.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: It's actually Poor Richard's Almanac.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: What does it have to do with the Bible?
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Doesn't know where it came in the Bible.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: It didn't come from Benjamin Franklin.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well he was messing around electricity, wasn't he. What
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: That's where the term go fly a kite came from,
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: you know, when people want to brush you off. Yeah,
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: go fly a kite.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: For Benjamin.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Clinton.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: See John's got that look like I know, you pull
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: on my leg. But there could be some truth to that. Now,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: the that was the look like I'm not going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: talk about the the old things we talked about, am I?
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: And I decided not to remember prior to the show
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: starting was saying this is where this phrase came from.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah right, yeah right, Okay, so let's see, Well,
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: you know what the questions from our listeners are usually
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: pertain to what we're talking about, and we're talking about
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: it and we're not talking about anything. But I have
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: questions for you. First question.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: But by the way, you get two minutes, I don't
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: catch you off, So you know till the end of
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: the show or what I want to stop, you can
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: stop anytime you want to the next break.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, Now, I got so many questions. The first one,
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I guess is going to be is there anything and
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: This is a long question, so you have the break
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: to think about I have to do with your house. Now,
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: That was the question that I'm bypassing right now. But
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: I want to know what people need to do or
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: what we need to do to prepare for summer. Are
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: there are there water saving ideas? Are there techniques?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: May I say that this should have been thought of
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: a month ago? Well?
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: No, it's you mentioned that it's fourth July coming up.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: That's when the hot weather's going to get us. Okay,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: So I'm just wondering. You know, we got a couple
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: of weeks we can get ready.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: But I think isn't it all hot in some areas?
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: Though?
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: It is? But I think this is a great question
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: because I've been dealing with some of these issues right now.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: All right, okay, so even even though we're we're kind
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: of almost into it, even when when you're in and
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: amongst the heat, what do you do exactly?
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: All right? How much of that hypothetical.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Question or you really want an answer?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: No?
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: No, I want an answer, And I also want maybe
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: some specifics on families and plants to.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: Plants, maybe not plant related, go out and buy a
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: water wiggle, make sure your host works, and if they
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: still sell them, get a slippings.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Don't we have to take a break pretty soon?
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: We do.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that. Back after these messages on
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Garden America, we are back from the break. Thank you
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: to those that had run tuned in on biz talk
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: radio listening to this madness, this chaos, this craziness, and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: of course are very dedicated viewers and listeners on Facebook Live.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Who go, ah are they still on? Watch the audio?
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Where's the video? They're back again?
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Here we and we're back with lots of fun things
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: to talk about.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, John's question what to do in summer now?
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: You know, and I've been working up in Muriata and Temecula,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: which gets a little bit hotter and drier than most
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: of the San Diego region, and and it's it's very
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: hard dense soil as well. I've been working in a
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: lot of areas that have new housing development.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: What is the soil up there? For the most part,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: we decomposed granite.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: Decomposed granite exactly because you know, in a new housing development,
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: what they do is they scrape all the you know,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: top soil away and they backfill with hard packed soil.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: So the house the ability to settle.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: And that's what we did in my house. We lowered
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the elevation by six feet and so that we could
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: have a bigger backyard.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and so now when digging, you don't have
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: top soil, you just have like rock and DG and
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: so you know, this time of year, it's very very
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: important to mulch because mulching will keep the water into
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: the soil. It'll mulch amend the soil. What are you
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: laughing at? Colment?
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Brian can read the comment from Dana.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Great, go ahead what we're saying, but just you know what, Gosh,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I have to go home to her anyway, Just go ahead.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just it's a it's a shot
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: at me kind of. But it's funny. It's it's kind
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: of unusual to come from Dana, like just want to
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: shoot out like that. Yeah, like I say, when I
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: go home, I hope everything's okay. But anyway, do you
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: compose granted, so what do you do all the fact mulching?
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: So so, mulching is super important to do right now,
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: and it's never too late because you know, number one,
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: it's going to keep the water in the soil a
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: little bit longer than if you don't multch. And number two,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: I really like the mulches that break down quickly, like
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: the shredded redwood or gorilla hair or just like a
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: forest fines mult That's what I meant. I bought it
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: really will. As a matter of fact, you did, I did?
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: Where'd you put it?
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I did? Put it in and around some of the
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: areas of outside there.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, But you know, you bring up a good point
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: because there's a whole you know, uh, after winter rains,
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: we get all kinds of wats in the spring, right,
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but and those a lot of those weats
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: are dying out now, but then there's a whole new
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: crop of summer wheat. But mulching will help press them. Yeah,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: and especially if you use a weed. You know, I'm
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of weed preventers right now because
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I have so much property in so many weeds that
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: if and use the six month green so twice a year,
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you can sprinkle that down, mulch the top, and you've
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: got virtually no weed. But otherwise you got per slaine
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Japanese spurs coming up. Now there's some summertime grasses crab
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: grass for sure.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: And like you just described, the summertime mulches are not
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: the tall dandy light style stuff. So the mulch you
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: cover it, and like you say, they don't grow very
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: very very easily controlled.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Right, And what does come up is easier to pull
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: because the roots are more shallow.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I put it in some of the pots too, just
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: to make it look a little laser.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: It looks, it looks nicer, and I think one of
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: the other motivation for doing that would be too, you know,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: during the summertime, after I water to keep the soil
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: moist so it doesn't dry out as quick, and it
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: does look nice. Yeah, it doesn't kind of dresses it
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: up well. You know.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: I mentioned the one bed that I put in where
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: I put in my roast seedlings. I sprinkled the wheat
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: preventer after they were all planted, and then I put
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: the there. Because it's a little closer to the house,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: I put the black mulch instead of the sun that
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: stuff my son springs and and it looks looks perfect.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: As matter of fact, that's a picture it should take. Yeah,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I think we should have a newsletter where we just
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: do pictures of my house.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: We've been out.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: We could do that for a while. You know what,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: though I did read up, read up on it as
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: far as does it affect animals?
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, the mult the mulch, and everything I read was
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: pretty benign, just out of curiosity.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: The other thing I will say that you need to
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: do right now with the summertime, temperature changes and everything
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: is change the irrigation system timing. So this is something
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: so I'm I know that we live in southern California
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: and it's very different than some of the other parts
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: of the country that deal with humidity. But I'm a
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: huge advocate for nighttime water. You know, just from the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: standpoint of if you can water your plants at night,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: they're going to stay. The water's going to stay there
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: for a long period of time. It's going to absorb
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: into the soil. It's going to get down to the roots,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: the plants are going to have a chance to absorb
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: it and before the sun comes out. But if you
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: water at six am, I.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Mean by ten o'clock, by eight am.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: In some of these places it's eighty five degrees and
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: you watered at six half of that water is gone
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: and the plant didn't have a chance to absorb it.
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: The water never really got down into the soil enough
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: deeply to not get evaporated. And you know, you're dealing
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: with things like wind, so would the water doesn't always
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: go to where you want it to go. And so
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: you know, if you can program your irrigation system to
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: run at ten eleven pm at night, you know, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: it just has a full six to eight hours before
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: the sun even comes up, you know. And I do
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: say that with the disclaimer because people, you know, say, oh, well,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: what about humidity and fungal issues and all the other thing,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: And that is true if you live in New Orleans
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: or you know, somewhere where you have heavy humidity issues
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: that you can you know, have a lot of disease
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: problem in there.
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I don't think it makes a difference.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: Because they have humidity all the time.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Anyway, I got humidted is. Yeah, you can't get more
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: than that by watering at night.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: So and the same thing here, I don't you know
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: rose that Yeah, and I have that it doesn't increase diseases. Yeah,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe if you're on the coast.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: But what depends how fast it dries out again, Like
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: like Tiger mentioned, if it's twelve hours like that, yes,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: but in a few hours it's going to get hot,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: it's going to dry out.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Lisa mentions mildew and I I really don't think mildew
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: is increased by nighttime watering. But that's just my own opinion.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: And again, the reason I say that, Lisa, is that
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: if you think of the moisture we have at night
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: and do that, dude's gonna cover the leaf. So on
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the leaf you have one hundred percent humidity. If you're
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: watering the leaves at night, it's not going to go
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: over one hundred percent. It's still one hundred percent.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah. So so you know definitely because people will say that, oh,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: they'll be like, oh, I just you know, I haven't
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: adjusted my clock, or or they'll say, oh no, I
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: put more time, but they still have it starting at
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: eight am. Hey, you put another five minutes of irrigation
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: on at eight am when it's hot outside, it doesn't matter.
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: It didn't matter that that's that's that's wasted water because
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: it's already sunny, it's already hot, it's already evaporating, you know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: So the best thing to do is to now change
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: change your timing to be like overnight watering, so that way,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you know, with the summer heat coming along and then
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: that that's the thing too, We've talked about this before,
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: is it's actually almost sometimes more harmful to water when
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: the sun's up.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Break time. All right, Two more segments, one long one,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: one short one here on Guard in America as we
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: continue more of your questions, your comments. BIZ Talk Radio
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in Facebook Live John Bagnasco and talk your fellows.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Ah.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yes, the boys have returned from the break doing some stretching, Yeah,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: getting ready for the day and talking about watering habits
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: and how you should change those habits. Watering at night,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: soaking at night. By the time it dries up and
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: gets hot, John, your plants should have absorbed it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Now I'm wondering about fertilizing. What do you do for
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: summer fertilizing. Do you still continue on a fertilizing program
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: or the things that you start fertilizing or stop fertilizing
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: nothing that burns.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's my biggest thing is I only use,
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: especially in the summertime, just an organic all purpose fertilizer,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: and I do continue to continue fertilizing because it's actually.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: Really plants are growing a lot.
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: They're growing, and they're dealing tropical and they're dealing with
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: the heat and dealing with absorbing water and all of
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: that that they utilize a lot of the nutrients pretty quickly.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: But oh man, hey, I've had so many problems with
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: using a chemical fertilizer in the summertime that birds. The
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: first thing I thought was a le So people people
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: don't realize like, oh, I just put a little bit
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: and it's like it burns so easily. In the summer time,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: you have to be very careful with a chemical fertilizer.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: In the summer, you don't get the leeway like you
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: do in the winter.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Well, camellias and azaleas are growing this time of year.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: You know, their dormant in the winter when they're blooming,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: but this time of year they're growing. So if you're
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: going to fertilize them, now would be the time. But again,
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: like you said, I would use an organic food on them.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: But also if you need to prune azaleas or camellias,
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: you know now that they're done blooming, you want to
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: prune them, go ahead and prune them now. You don't
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: really want to prunem when they're dormant or after they've
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: set budge, which well should happen pretty soon, right, I
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: mean they put out new leaves and that it seems
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: like almost immediately they start setting buds.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: And then you still have a little ways to wait.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: You have to wait all summer long. They just they
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: just sit there, just teasing you for months. Well.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember even living in Michigan, we would we
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: were borderlined for rhododendrons. Oh, they had to be protected,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: but they'd have that big bud sitting there all and
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: you just hope that it didn't freeze off.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: And I was going to say, because then you're watching
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: it and then sometimes they just falls off. Yeah, like
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: it just it was. It was there for months and
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: then it just falls off. Yeah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: When we went to the Royal Botanic Garden in Edinburgh, Scotland,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: I was just shocked at the size of some of
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: the rhododendron trees or bushes or whatever they were there.
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: They were twenty feet tall.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're like they're like a multi trunk create myrtle,
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like like just a massive
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: bush tree thing and beautiful flowers. Yeah, It's amazing how
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: how something can grow so differently in another area.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: If you were a tree, what would you want to be?
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: Oh, I was a tree?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: You want I mean now that he's too old to
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: be a sapling?
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Ye, I would want to be a redwood around Forever Roads, tall,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: see everything.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: People fascinated by you. Yeah, they'll they'll make a tunnel underneath.
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Did you know, By the way, this is a little
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: bit off subject, but you mentioned we.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Never go off subject. What are you doing?
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's still redwoods. But the uh redwood forests
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: that's there now, uh is thought to be is built
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: on the foundation, so to speak, of an older redwood
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: force that all died at one time.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: Like like like a fire or flood or something much
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: demolish ancient city and.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Then built on top of each city.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then this this new grove came
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: up and since then has been there. So the coincidence
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: is that the time of the genesis flood kind of
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: corresponds to the time that that original forest died out
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: and then the new one came up.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say, when the meteorite
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: landed in the Gulf of Mexico and killed off the Dinosa.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: Gol from Mexico. Where's that the Gulf of America.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew he was going to go there. Yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: that's interesting because, like I mentioned before, when you when
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: archaeologists dig and they dig down to well, this is
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: this civilization here, and they go deeper this civilization and
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: they keep going down to differ different cities, built up
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: one of the cities.
• 53:50
  Speaker 4: And and you know that makes that makes a lot
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: of sense in what you just said, because you know,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: they talk about you know, reform or a station, you know,
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: and what happens over you know, generations and centuries of forests,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: but they don't grow anywhere else, you know what I mean,
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Like like like the redwood, the redwood tree is not
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: like the jagaranit tree that like can grow here and
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: grow there, and you know, it's it's that area, that region.
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: It's very specific, you know to.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: You know, do you remember when I don't know if
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: we talked to anyone on the radio, I know, wrote
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: an article for the newsletter, but that there's redwoods in Michigan.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: They planted redwoods, they planted them and they're actually growing.
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: That seems crazy.
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't see them wintering there, you know what
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: I mean? Very well?
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well but they maybe they'll will develop some resistance.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: But trees, don't get me wrong. But like you know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: where they're where they're normally living. I get it. You know,
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: Michigan by human to eat lots of water, they love
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: all that, But the winter would be the part that
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, ooh.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: You know, we have people that fixate on certain things
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: in this Uh.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: That's true. I know what he's talking about. It.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because Kevin has asked. Kevin from Cordelaine, Idaho
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: is asking a question that is similar to one that
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: Brian used to ask over the years, and I think
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: maybe even.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Rick the molts.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: No, No, this one is how come we never see
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: carnation plants everywhere? Where? Did they come from?
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Well, real quick to answer, Kevin had another question, are
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: they still offering free mulch in San Diego? And there's
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: a lot of companies that do molts drop, which are
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: like pair up with and this is all over the country.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: They pair up with tree trimming companies. Okay, and like
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: you can just be like sign up and those tree
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: trimming companies will just drop their load. Of of of
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: shavings that they got from their work into your driveway.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Now you know the downside of that is you get
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: what you get and you know that you know what
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: what it is is what it is. But also the
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: city of San Diego offers mulch as well for the landfill,
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: but you have to go pick it up if you
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: want it for free. They will load it at a
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: at a cost. But yeah, and sorry he now asked
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: about carnations.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: About carnations, because you used to ask this allid time.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Too, but you just see them all over the place.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the real they used to be a floral
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: industry in San Diego. They we used to go to
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: roses and carnations. And there's a difference between a florist
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: carnation in garden carnations. Florist carnations have to be steaked,
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: and they used to grow them in greenhouses.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: They just fall over.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Now it's all done in South America because it can
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: be done more economically than you know, the valuable space
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: of valuable land costs in Encinita snow. But so it's
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: almost like there's other things you normally don't see in
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: the garden, like usually don't see florist alls from area right,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: because they're too tall and floppy. But the same thing.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: Back when I first moved to California, people would still
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: grow florist carnations and you would buy them in the
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: spring a certain time of the year, but they always
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: have to be staked, and they would put in a
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: little wood and string set up to hold them up
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: and tie them to the strings and get them to grow.
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: So people don't do that anymore.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: Well, and it was really cool in England where they
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: just laid down branches in their garden. When the floppy
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: plants grew. There was a structure that grew into that
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: held it up. But it looked very natural, looked very
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: Oh it just it just works that way.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Do you still dream about longborn?
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: You do?
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: I'm going to have one. Yes.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Speaking of natural, do I think tiger? Well, they have
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: him outside here. It looks like rocks, but they're actually
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: h past control. Oh so they go they go in whatever,
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: rats or whatever. But it looks kind of like.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: A rock, looks like a boulder.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, boulder.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Matt tis in with the landscape.
• 58:25
  Speaker 4: If they didn't know where that came from.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: But I don't because you said natural how the plants
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: are natural. I think what, I don't know what you're
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: talking about? A rock trap?
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know my traps, rat traps. They make it
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: out like boulders.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Now they can make it right, I knew nothing about. Okay,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: they hurt them around buildings and the pest companies. So
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: they're rat.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Traps, but they're poison inside or.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so instead of like a box, they make it
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: look like a rock or some part of the landscape
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: so it's not obvious.
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: Wow, Hey, it's time to take a break.
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: And you learned something, because yeah, I never ever know.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I want you to go home and tell the fans wow,
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: and perhaps perhaps contemplate winning them around your property.
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: I like crocks and I don't like brass, so you
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: go like win win.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: It's our final break, and boy, old boy, people are
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: happy about that. Back after this, I'm biz talk meeting. Okay,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: just laughing and scratching. That's what we're doing here on
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Guard in America. Final final segment. Now, normally the show's
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: over by this time, but here's the beauty of starting later.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Having that that the forty sponsor interruption break, We're we're
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: into the nine thirty part of the clock here, we're
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: into the ninth. No, it's nine thirty live if you're
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: watching us live on the on the West coast, except
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: that I j nine on the Eastern Sea.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Dana wants enough for planning any trips coming up, and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: we had one planned, but we canceled, Dana because Brian said,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: with the new cat, you're not going anywhere.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, hold on here, No, okay, this is is asking.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: We went down a deposit and everything. We lost the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: deposit because of Brian.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: That's a separate issue, and that's all very funny and humorous.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: We just got a trouble.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, here's the next question. She's asking if
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: we have any she can ask me at home. She
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to put a comment on Facebook. I'll let
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: you know if we have any trips plan exactly. It's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: like it's it's so formal, you guys have any trips.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: That's the only way you guys communicate you guys don't
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: communicate it except right here exactly. The only way she
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: reaches out to you is.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: But I have to say John's answer was pretty funny.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: I think Dana always thinks of the show and she's
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: trying to find out if there's any interest among the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: general public and our listeners for us to put together
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: another trip.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I'll buy that. I'll also by the fact that she
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: doesn't trust my answer. If I say no, no, nothing plans,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: things can be true and then she finds out well, yeah,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: John said, you guys are planning a trip to Patagonia.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: I want to go to Patagonia.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: That's a long trip. That's a long flight.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are doing that, though. What do
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: you think, Tiger.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: When we it's tough.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of hiking, a lot of different Well,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it's really tough.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Is that Tiger's wife is always teaching school. When we
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: plan trips and the.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Kids take the class with that's a great field trip.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah right, it's a long field trip. Carlt Tiger wants
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: to know whether it's time to spray her citrus for scale. Oh,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: she wants to know if she should wait till it's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: fall and it's cooler.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: I mean so on a scale of one to ten,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: ten meaning do it now.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: I think you can do do it now for sure, because.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: She's on the coast.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're growing, they're growing. This is when the bugs scale.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: Mealy bug, whitefly it's all starting. So if you will
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: wait until the fall, your your problem is already going crazy.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: But like we've said before, you have to be careful
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: because you can't spray in the middle of the day
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: because you'll burn the folage, You'll burn you know, the plant.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 4: So kind of back to like what we're saying with watering.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: Just spray at night, you know, spray at night so
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: that way the the spray will be there when there's
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: no sun out and you know, the plants protected and
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: by the time day comes around, you're you're safe again.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: So yes, do spray, but sprayed.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: We got the reason why, Dan I asked that question,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: oh goodness, And the reason is Brian won't tell me anything.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: See, that's why that's what I said. Did I say
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: that you didn't trust me?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Goodness?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Kevin as Iceland, right, yeah, asked about Iceland, And I've
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: looked into Iceland as a matter of fact.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: You know, they have more waterfalls there than almost anyplace else.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: In the world.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Really, yes, more than hawait.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't say the most, but they have a lot. Yeah,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: there's a lot there, more than you think. But anyway,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: continue your Iceland.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: They've got well I've always wanted to see the northern lights. Yes,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: so it seems like you could go. I can see that,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: and if you went in the middle of winter, you
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: could also.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: Go.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: What's it called? Is it the blue Lagoon?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: The one where people laying it? Yeah, it's like hot water,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: but it's very uh yeah, there's it's like blue like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: his shirt, like Brian's shirt.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: And there's snow all around.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, In fact, I want a YouTuber went there.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: They used a lot of geothermal energy.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of autantic activity. I think as well, yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: there is, Yeah, isn't it. Did we talk about this
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: before that? The reason they called it Iceland was to
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: keep people away, to make it think like it's really
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: harsh and it's just the exactly's huge.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you see it on a real map, like
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: meaning like when that actually.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Covers the entire United States almost.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Tanya's going to Amsterdam and Norway this summer for a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: family reunion, so we'll just go with her. Well that's
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: what I'm I'm thinking as she's in fighting all the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: listeners to maybe join her.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: All right, there's a nice places to go, do you think.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: Do you think going to Amsterdam in the summer is
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: going to San Diego in the summer where it's nice,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: but you know, it's not the spring, so it's kind
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: of not as nice. You know, like when you go
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: to southern California in the spring, a lot of things
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: are in bloom and you know it's pretty in the summer,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: it's still nice, but it's just not as.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: People have different motivations when they go to m Okay,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying people go on trips for different reasons
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: they do, okay, John, as we used to say in sports,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: two minutes two minutes remaining or there about till the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: end of the show.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: Well when but when we were in England in the summer,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: it was not as nice as if you will go
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: in the spring.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: See pretty chilly in the summertime, right, No, it was warm,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Oh it wasn't. Really it was hot because it can
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: be cold. Yeah, when you think it should be hot.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Hey, Sue really quick commented that they had a great
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: time when they went to Costa Rico with us. But
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: she's taken on her lawn and putting in bark and
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: she wants to know if there's any suggestions for prep
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: The one thing is after the area is ready for bark.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Definitely get the extended stated warranty right now, the extended
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: release on the prene that lasts for six months, and
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I would sprinkle that over the whole area. And you
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: can buy large bags at home depot.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: And remember how it works is it makes that gassy
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: layer on the soil. If you disrupt it, you don't
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: get the benefit of the prene anymore. So a lot
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: of people don't realize that that it's not just like,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: not only do you want to lay it down, but
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: you also just want to leave it alone.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Now, what about putting a weed mat down and then
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: the bark over the weed mat?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: I don't like weed mat?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah I don't either.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: So all right, Well, we got about a minute ago,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: plenty of time to keep us on time. Any quick, quick,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: last minute?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Water? Water water at night, water at night, water early.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: You'll be happier.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: John, get your workstation back up and running in some
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: part of the property. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: We got a getting show scheduled for up there sometime,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: don't Yeah.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Show soon at John's place. Hey, thank you so much
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: for the putting up with a brief interruption we had.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: We got us back on thanks to Tiger for the
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: entire crew. I'm Brian Main, John Beg, NASCAR, Tuger, Pella, Fox.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: Have a great rist of your weekend, Water Water Water.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Be safe right here on
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Guard in America. Take care, Facebook Live and biz Talk Radio.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 4: Attending the Comic and the FA