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Episode 251: Crimson Desert, Xbox Partner Preview, and MARATHON'S Cryo Archive! · WASD and Beyond

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Yeah, let's stop right to right. Do it.
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Oh, you know what it came from? Screen Box interviewed Lloyd
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Kaufman. How about that?
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We did do it. We did that.
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We did. We did.
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We did. We talked to Lloyd, we talked to
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Lloyd and it was a spiritual, religious experience.
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They say don't mean you're heroes, but I have to.
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Disagree. Met well.
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I've met him three Times Now. Yes.
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So, but we have met him twice. Yeah, we saw him in San Diego.
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We talked about got a little photo and then how long has it
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been since then? Probably like a couple months.
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Yeah, a couple months. Yeah, well, we went before the
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winter. Dude, I mean, so I started where
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I work now about a year ago. I was laying in like my third or
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fourth month. Well, it hasn't been a year
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because we've been doing screen box for less than a year.
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Yeah. So it's.
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So it has to be somewhere in there.
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Yeah, maybe. Anyway, that's not what we're
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here to talk about. But but seriously, go watch and
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listen to that because that was super fun for us and it was
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great to talk with him. Good to hear what he had to tell
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us about. Yeah, Noah's painstakingly
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editing that right now, so when you guys get it, it'll sound
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nice, fresh, and any of the hard breaths I take will be cut.
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From it, Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna.
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Boost those. No, don't do that.
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I've been working out. It's good.
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I don't get it. I've been doing.
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It it's not your fault, it's your mic.
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And yeah, it's just, it's a bit sensitive.
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It is. What are we doing today, Nick?
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What are we talking about today? We are talking about a myriad of
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things actually. So we're going to start it off,
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though, no three things. Three things.
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Well. There's a lot going on, right?
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So we got the layoffs, Epic, We got a bunch of other studios
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laying people off Terrible. Stop supporting studios that are
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doing this. We vote with our wallets, right?
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So let's focus on that. I want to also do an in memoriam
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for my favorite comic book artist in the world, Sam Keith,
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the creator of my favorite comic book, The Max.
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Rest in peace to a living legend gone too soon.
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When did that comic start? When did he start that?
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In the 90s, late 90s. Oh wow, been doing it for a
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while then. Yeah, I believe the Max got in
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late 90s. I was, I started collecting the
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Max when I was a kid though, so had to have been around then.
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Probably the 2000s is when I got into him.
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But he's done, he's done Wolverine.
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He's he's done the Hulk. I mean, he's done it all, you
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know, Sandman, things like that. So if you love comic books and
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you haven't read the Max, I highly recommend it.
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One of the greatest stories ever told and it helps very much with
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mental struggles. It's a lot about that.
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So go check the Max out. Rest in peace, Sam Keith.
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So, you know, there's just a lot going on in the gaming industry,
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but a glimmer of nice shining hope today.
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What's this Xbox partner showcase?
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There was a lot of cool stuff here, and we're going to get to
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other cool glimmers of hope that we have because some of the
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games we've been playing too in particular are either loved or
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hated right now, and it is polarizing for both of them.
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But we'll get to those. Oh yeah, the partner showcase,
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which was narrated by Aaron Paul, 'cause I was like anyone
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here in the weird AI voice and everyone's.
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Like this? Yeah, we all thought it was AI
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voice. It was cool.
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This is a cool 20 minute show. I like the direction that Sony
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and Xbox are taking with this, where it's just game, game,
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game, game, game. You know, if they have hardware
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to show off they'll do that, but it's mostly just games.
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Do you think, do you think that this is maybe a signal that
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exclusives are dying in the exclusive market is dying?
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Yeah, no, unfortunately because I think Sony is, well, that's.
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You know, that's what I'm saying, because it feels like
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that. It's been dying for a while.
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Sony was putting with their exclusives on PC.
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Nintendo obviously doesn't put their stuff on PC or any other
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console, but that's its own thing.
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But like really Xbox and the, you know, there's a lot of games
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that are that used to be only found on Steam that are now on
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Xbox as well and stuff. So it sounds.
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So then when Sony did this thing where they're like, oh, we're
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not going to do that anymore. Do you think they're trying to
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pull back the current market that's very much shared?
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Do you think they're trying to claw that back to restart like
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an exclusives boom? I think they're trying.
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I don't think it's going to. I don't think it's going to go
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in the favor they think it's going to.
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Go. I don't think so either.
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People want to play their games anywhere and everywhere.
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That is huge. That's why the Steam Deck did so
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well. You can play Xbox games on your
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Steam Deck, albeit it's not in the greatest of qualities, but
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for what you're paying for this device, it's great, right?
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It's a great device. Yeah, I don't think that's a
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thing that can be built up and built up and built up.
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And then I don't think it can go back.
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Like you can't have all this openness and then try to close
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it off again. I just don't think you can put
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that genie back in the bottle. They can try, but it's going to
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drive people away from their console to hurt their sales.
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The only thing they really have, in my opinion at the moment
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that's going to be a huge driver is Wolverine.
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Also that new God of War remake. When it comes out.
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Like a year or two. So but Xbox has Helix coming out
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right? So I hope that hope my Mike
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didn't pick that little burp I just did up.
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That'd be great. I I did definitely didn't hear
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it. Well, very good.
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So they have Helix coming out, which is almost their response
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to, I mean, I'm sure this project's been in the works, but
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the Steam Machine's also releasing soon.
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It's going to release before the Helix.
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So I'm curious to see what that looks like.
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But it feels like Xbox, you know, with P3 and Sarah Bond
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leaving and this new person taking over, which everyone's
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super unsure about because her, you know, position on AI.
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We're not really here for that. And one of these games looks
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like straight AI dog shit to be clear.
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We'll talk. We'll talk about it.
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So it's cool to see Xbox still doing Xbox things though, yeah.
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Or you know. Seemingly Xbox, things like
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they're trying, it's a totally different landscape, but.
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Yeah, the industry is not the same as it was like, yeah, when
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Gears of War was. First reviews ago.
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No it's not. Everything is live service.
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It's been like this for a while though.
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Everything is a live service thing now.
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You can't just have one thing without a player count being
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looked at because if the player counts not over 100,000 to
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200,000 to 1,000,000, your game is shit.
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It's broke and it's going to die and I don't.
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No, we talked about that. Remember we talked about that
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with Skate, How? Because it's a live service.
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But it's the same problem with all these games.
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Once they stop being profitable, they just turn it off.
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I'm worried about marathon and there's a lot of hype for
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marathon but. Yeah.
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And and it's it's a valid. It's a valid concern.
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Yeah, so, but we saw a lot of good stuff here.
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Yeah, should we just rattle off what we saw?
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I would love to just rattle off, but let's start with Hunt.
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We're going to start from the top, go down to the bottom.
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Hunt the Reckoning. Yeah, you know, Death Wish.
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This was a school fucking fucking game.
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Vampires. Pirate cops?
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Werewolves perhaps? Well, we saw some.
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We saw some vampire hunters. Yes, yes, so so that's gonna be
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like our role, but I'm hoping it's not like a Left for Dead
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style game. I'm hoping it's like a sick, a
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nice fun single player, like hey, just go out in the city.
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You know, I'm sure that if it is could be like a fetch quest
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thing, but go kill these vampires, right, Like go find
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these vampires, hunt them down. I'm looking for a game like that
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right now. Like 'cause they're just as it's
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a. Sucked.
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The IT just says that it's a first person action game.
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Fantastic set in the World of Darkness universe.
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OK. So I don't know, fantastic, but
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it looks sweet. Yeah, looks sweet.
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Yeah, withering. It's not Werthering, Evan, by
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the way. It's Werthering.
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I read it as Werthering. But it's WUTH.
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Yeah, I see, I see. Werthering Waves it's an anime
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game, I'm sure if you like those style games you'll like this.
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We had the unless you have something to say about that
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game. No.
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OK, we had. There's a novel called Wuthering
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Heights. That's like a whole different
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thing, buddy. You don't even want to go down
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that road. OK, OK.
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You don't. You don't want to go down the
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Wuthering Heights Rd. No, no.
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No Wuthering, it's it's a. And I think it's, I think it's
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one of the spicy books that everybody.
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'S reading. I think.
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All right, we'll move on. Anime, JRPG, platform, all that
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kind of fun stuff, It's coming out everywhere.
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The Expanse, Osiris, you're born.
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Yeah, it's kind of. I like Owl Cat, but I don't.
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Some of the UI looked really bad, like the the speech UI.
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Yeah, it's, it looks like there's going to be.
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I mean, they felt enough, they felt it was important enough to
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just put it in the trailer that there's like dialogue choices,
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even though that's a super common feature now.
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So I have a feeling it's going to be very heavily focused
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around those decisions that you make.
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Yep, that's 2027. So that's got a bit of time.
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Did you want to do a couple or do you want?
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Me to yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll do. We could switch off.
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Next up, we got Blumhouse Games and their game called Grave
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Seasons. It looks like what if Stardew
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Valley, but scary. There's you know, the there's a
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farm you left to you by an older family member, but then there's
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like some spooky stuff going on and maybe you uncover a murder
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and then there's like a demon at the end, which is really sick.
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And there's a demo which is going to come out soon for that,
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but it comes out on August 14th. Serious Sam I had to do this
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one. So again again again, old old
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school FPS dude here Serious Sam is a game that has left its
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boot. His his converse footprint on
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the gaming industry. He's had plenty of bad games,
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plenty of great games as well. Serious Sam 2 this so serious
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Sam shatterverse. It looks like a rogue, like a
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bit right, like like a Co cooperative, like rogue like
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like what if serious Sam, but also risk of rain a bit.
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It's it's cool. I'm glad to see Sam back, but
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it's not really the style of serious Sam I was hoping for.
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I was hoping for maybe like a redo here.
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Same thing I would hope for like with the Duke Nukem, but it's
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just is what it is at this point.
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So behavior please make it good. Yep, I never played.
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I never played the original. I never really knew.
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Anything. OK, yeah, maybe, maybe might be
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a good time. It kind of reminded me of the
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Spyro Reignited. Like it kind of looks new, but
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it also kind of doesn't. Like retro Y?
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Yeah, like retro shaded. Kind of, sort of.
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Yeah, next we have Stranger than Heaven, which is like maybe a
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time traveling or takes place over multiple eras.
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Looked like heavily focused on hand to hand combat and you
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know, sort of minor exploration. There's no release date yet for
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this, but there they were going to do a deeper look into the
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game on May 6th. But it looks really cool.
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Hand to hand stuff. It reminds me of there's a game
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that came out that didn't really have a long life, but it was
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trying to be a hand to hand only game with like no story.
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You just go around an island punching people.
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And it reminded me of that, but I don't remember the name of it.
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Absolver. That was the name of.
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It oh OK. Yeah.
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We had a Super Meat Boy 3D that comes out March 31st.
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I love Super Meat Boy. I remember playing it on new
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grounds or just meat. Yeah, Super Meat Boy on new
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grounds and all the Flash sites. That's an old school Edmund
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McMillan game. This is not.
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He has no involvement with this, which is kind of weird to me,
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but he was also working on eugenics at the time.
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And I don't even know if he has the rights to Meat Boy anymore.
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So we'll see. But oh wow, I'm excited to that.
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I'm excited to that. I'm sure he does.
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I also never played one of those because really, I had heard on
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in a video someone describing it and they were talking about
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like, if a game responds your character within a second of you
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dying, you just know that game's going to piss you off.
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Yeah, but I did play Celeste, which is like Super Meat Boy for
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babies. Celeste is hard.
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Celeste was hard. I almost snapped my Switch in
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half like 5 or 10 times trying to play that game.
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But I did beat it and I was proud of myself.
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Good. Next there was Forever Ago,
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which is like a narrative driven story that also like shifts over
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time periods. It's about an old man, you know,
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he plays an old man, go around, relive old memories and seems
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like it's mostly just narrative based and that's going to come
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out in the fall. Yes we had ascend to 0.
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This looked like another like rogue light style very ADHD
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lights show everywhere type. Game techno magic.
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I would say cyber magic. There you go.
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Not my shit, but I'm sure it's somebody's and I'm sure it
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people are going to love it, so that's cool.
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Yeah, dispatch will be on Xbox this summer.
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I'm it's good. Surprised it wasn't on Xbox
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already. Is it on PlayStation?
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It might be. Obviously it's on Steam, we know
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that. Yeah.
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So I'm not sure if it's on PlayStation.
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Well, it's gonna be on Xbox, but.
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Not on Game Pass. Which I yeah, I'm surprised.
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That's weird, but is what it is. More Learn more about Robert.
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Hold on. Robert Robertson the Third.
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Yeah, I didn't know that he was 1/3.
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You got to play it. It's a great game.
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It's so good. Yeah.
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It is. It's great.
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No, I know. I know.
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I will. I will.
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He says yeah, I. Just wanted it to be a show.
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Like I watched people in the discord play and I was like I
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just wish they made this a show. I wish it was a show as well.
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I think it'd do great as like an Amazon like invincible style
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show. Yeah, it'd be so good.
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Yeah, dude, it's more dull animation.
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We need it. Alien Death Storm from
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Rebellion. This looked interesting.
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Not a whole lot to really show. I mean, they showed off some
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gunplay, they showed off some aliens, they showed off ways you
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could die, kind of. It looks really good.
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Like the game looks pretty so cool, you know?
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Can't wait to see more of that. Yeah, I'll have Frog squad, Frog
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squad or Frog slop potentially because it's looks like another
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friend slop game. We we love them.
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Now this this one's being shown off.
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So I think, you know, it could be a little bit deeper.
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There seems to be some there's some platforming, there's some
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item gathering, there's some shenanigans definitely.
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So that'll be coming out. It's just says sometime in June.
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So you know, at some point it'll be a game, they'll be updates,
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whatever next was Bluey's happy snaps, which is a yeah, Bluey's
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huge. I'm surprised it's taking this
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long to get a Bluey game. I mean there probably already is
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1 like. Landon plays.
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Yeah, there's a bluey game on Xbox already.
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OK, well, people love Bluey. Kids are going to love this.
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Probably a lot of adults are probably going to love it.
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This is coming out everywhere on everything.
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Listen dude, I saw like I saw PS4, I think Xbox One and I was
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like, OK. So all of these, whenever you
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see Xbox play anywhere, that is what they're also talking about
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is the phone. You can play that on a phone.
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Yeah, well, everything's an Xbox, remember?
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Yeah, because they do with streaming and stuff.
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So Yep, you're excited about this one.
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Stalker to Cost of Hope looks great.
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I'm weary because the game on launch was a bit not great.
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I haven't gone back to it, but I love the I love the STALKER
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universe, I love what they do with these games and I just hope
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it's great when it comes out. Yeah, this one I know you're
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pumped for. No, I'm pumped.
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Not so much this one than the next one, but the next one.
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I'll do this one. You can do the next one, Musa
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dirty fate. It's like a samurai game, like
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a, you know, your typical samurai thing, sword fighting
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and that, but there's also zombies.
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That's kind of interesting. I can't tell if it's like like a
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souls like or more, you know, more or I should say less
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serious than a souls like, but that'll be and it's a Korean
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samurai as well. It's.
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Interesting, We haven't seen much of that and that'll be in
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just sometime in 2027. And it's just PC, PlayStation
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and Xbox. Yeah, we had.
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I'm pumped for this. This looks sweet.
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The Eternal Life of Goldman demo out now.
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This is a platformer. Looks looks like hand drawn to
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me. It looked like hand drawn
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animation. It it definitely looks like it.
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So I mean, it, this looked like it's going to be something
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fucking awesome. And what Noah and I, what Noah
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pointed out goes, man, that mood really switched 'cause it just
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like switched your 100. It's like, oh, it's like, you
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know, you play as a little old man and he's got a little cane.
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You customize the cane. Full screen boss fight Cuphead
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style full screen boss. Fight and it's like it's like
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brutal looking shit. Yeah, and you start to see like
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one animation where he like pokes a thing and it just like
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there's blood and guts and it falls apart and I'm like, OK.
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And then again it's like full screen boss fight.
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It looks sick dude, look fucking awesome.
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I'm I'm going to be playing that demo tonight.
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Yeah, I'm going to definitely look at that on the Steam Deck
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if I can. Oh, that'll be good.
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It'll be a good game for that, I can tell.
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Yes, the next one, we've not. Not very hype on this one.
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It's called vaunted. Yeah.
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Yeah, it's a third person shooter that'll be coming out in
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sometime before 2026 comes to a close is what IGN says.
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So it sounds so they have no idea at some point and some of
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it looked like AI. So I don't know this developer.
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Listen, I don't like doing this. I don't like saying like this,
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but this looked like if you prompted Claude or Grok or what
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whatever shit you're using to to said, hey, make me a game like
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this. This is what I would assume it
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looks like. Not to disparage any of the
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developers on this, it just doesn't look good.
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Like it does it. I don't know what itch it's
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scratching for anybody, it just looked fucking weird.
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Yeah, I don't know. So yeah, not I was not
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impressed, not not that my praise is high.
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Anything can be good but very overfunded probably still needs
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a lot of work. That's why they didn't give even
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a month for it to come. Out, yeah, but you shouldn't
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have even shown that because like there was like that one
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scene where it was like, that's not finished animation.
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Yeah. And then some of the UI looked.
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I don't want to dog on it too much.
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I know. Let's let's let's move forward,
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move. Move on.
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Hades 2 is coming to Xbox April 14th and it's on Game Pass.
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So the long-awaited Hades 2 coming to Xbox and Game Pass
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we're good, good stuff. Oh, you get the big one.
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See, I I felt not, I felt barely anything towards this.
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Oh, for real? OK.
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Yeah. So this is artificial detective,
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which is like a narrative driven third person adventure game
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where you play as a robot in clearly a post apocalyptic city.
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The that I mean the the character looks like he's
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dressed as like a 1920s cop. He does.
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So I wonder when the apocalypse happens in this universe, or if
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it's a, you know, it's an alternate history where robotics
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got so easy and accessible that they just did it to everything.
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Like so like fast, like it's past fast technology rising
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type. Shit like oh is that random deer
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injured? Well, why don't we just give it
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robot legs? Yeah, which was cool.
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It it looks pretty like the game itself looked really pretty.
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Yeah. So I, I'm pumped.
23:07
I want to try it. I don't think I, I don't know,
23:10
like how good it's going to be, but the concept looks really
23:13
cool. Yeah, it looked interesting.
23:17
I don't. I'm curious to see how it would
23:18
actually play because all we saw was cinematics.
23:22
Yeah, it was. Like.
23:23
This gameplay. Seamless.
23:27
Seamless transition back into the show I had, you know, in
23:32
that length of time I shaved. Oh, you did?
23:37
That's going to be funny. That's going to be good for the.
23:39
Video Yes. That's good stuff.
23:44
You could we could have changed shirts and then said it was
23:46
another day. We could.
23:48
That would have been funny. That would have been good me
23:50
shaped, but then we could have mentioned it.
23:52
Yeah, that's. It's going to be so.
23:54
Should we edit this and not say anything which is funnier?
24:01
I don't know if the episodes, no matter what, it's gonna be fun.
24:04
So this is good stuff. Go check out the YouTube.
24:07
I gotta this. This episode's gonna be the
24:10
start of me putting everything on YouTube.
24:12
I gotta stop being depressed sometimes and just not doing
24:15
shit. Ah, we'll, we'll fix that.
24:19
We'll fix it. Anyways, back into the episode.
24:22
So that's the Xbox Partner Showcase.
24:24
That was great. Like what they're doing with it.
24:27
More games, less talking, more action and more games.
24:30
So good stuff. It's solid, solid, you know, C
24:35
plus nothing really stayed there, you know.
24:39
I'd give it, I'd give it AAB is, I mean, how are we grading it
24:42
here? Like it was a great
24:43
presentation. I just think some of the content
24:45
I didn't love. Well, that's AB is fine because
24:48
it was a good presentation. There's something there for
24:51
everybody. So cool.
24:56
Let's talk about two of the games we've been playing.
24:59
That's right. So we're going to finish out the
25:00
episode like this. Do you want to start with yours
25:04
or should I go with mine? I'll start because that'll give
25:09
me a limit, so I won't talk for too long because I feel like I
25:14
could have a lot to say about this game.
25:16
Yeah, but I don't want to. I don't want to ramble.
25:18
So stop me when I start rambling.
25:20
Well, there's still time for you to keep playing, and this isn't
25:22
even our full review yet, so. Yeah, so I've been playing
25:27
Crimson Desert. It's been literally 7 days at
25:32
the time of recording since it came out.
25:34
I bought it last week, was not able to play it over the
25:37
weekend. I was devastated.
25:40
And then I got back and pretty much the time that I've not been
25:44
at work or at an appointment or whatever, I've been in my seat
25:49
playing this game. It is so good, so complicated,
25:57
so deep, so much to really sink your teeth into.
26:02
But it is also been very divisive.
26:05
This game has been a long time coming.
26:07
I think they announced it in like 2019 that it would be a
26:11
sequel to Black Desert Online. So there's been some hype, but
26:18
then it feels like it really just exploded in hype recently
26:22
because they showed off the learning system where you can
26:26
learn moves from bosses, fly around on Dragons in this huge
26:30
world and ride all these different animals.
26:32
It's it, it was really promising and then it came out and people,
26:37
you know, there were the pre release copies that came out and
26:40
people started saying their opinions and what the game is
26:43
and what it isn't. And there was it turned into
26:46
essentially you love it or you hate it, best game ever or worst
26:49
game ever. There was sort of no in between
26:54
when the user reviews started coming out, which I get, but I
26:58
will just say this game to me feels like it feels like Breath
27:03
of the Wild, Red Dead Redemption, and Skyrim all got
27:06
together and had a baby. That's what it looks like for
27:10
me. Watching other people play it,
27:12
watching you play it it, it's interesting.
27:15
It's interesting. This game looks like a game with
27:18
everything in it. And either you're going to love
27:23
that or you're going to hate that because you're not going to
27:25
know what to do because you can't just pick one thing to do.
27:28
We want games with choices. But this seems like there's
27:32
everything in it, right? So there's a lot I like seeing
27:37
about this game. Then I see like some like the
27:39
weird in the sky looking future stuff and I'm just a bit
27:45
confused at what's going on. Yeah, it's it.
27:48
So I've I've played for let me check here on Steam.
27:51
I've played for 16 hours over the week and I'm on like Chapter
27:58
3, which is not very far into the game.
28:02
I'm still mostly in the first city and there is so much just
28:07
to do other than the main quests.
28:11
And I'll say like people have been saying this a lot, but the
28:15
story is incredibly weak. It's probably the weakest point
28:18
of the whole game is the narrative.
28:19
But the developers have been pretty open about that.
28:24
They said they're like the game will be in your adventure.
28:28
It's not necessarily in the narrative that we're telling or
28:32
the story that you're going to experience.
28:34
It's more about the in betweens and, and the actual way that you
28:39
play out those events. Yeah.
28:41
And you can tell, like I said, it plays a lot like Breath of
28:44
the Wild in the sense that it's like, oh, there's a thing, go to
28:48
the thing. Tons of stuff is going to happen
28:50
to you in between that. We don't really care about it.
28:52
You do what you want. Right.
28:54
So getting sidetracked is like the whole point of this game.
28:57
You you see a thing, it's off in the distance.
29:00
Oh, what should I do? I climb the mountain to get to
29:02
it and then once I'm at the top of the mountain, it leads me to
29:05
another thing, which unlocks a challenge, which then requires
29:08
me to get a key or follow somebody around.
29:12
It's it's a waterfall of different options and once one
29:16
starts, it always leads to another one.
29:19
So if you're a person who really likes a game that's linear and
29:24
on rails and sort of hold your hand, you're going to find this
29:27
incredibly frustrating. But if you're somebody who just
29:30
wants like an incredibly thought out and detailed world to
29:34
explore, then you're going to, you're going to have a good time
29:38
with this. You're going to get lost in it.
29:41
It it does the thing where certain areas are more difficult
29:44
to keep you out of them because you're not supposed to be there
29:49
per the narrative, which is fine.
29:51
I mean, you expect that they have to guide you in some way?
29:55
Yeah, no, it's cool, man. Don't you go.
30:03
Overall, I'm having a really good time.
30:04
The combat's fun, systems are deep.
30:07
There's all those. There's like cooking and magic
30:09
and guns and crafting and all resource gathering and stuff.
30:14
But you definitely have to meet the game for where it is.
30:17
You have to understand it's going to be a slow burn, some
30:21
not so much of A grind, but there are like things that will
30:25
take you a long time. OK.
30:28
So if if I was going to give it a score right now, I'd give it a
30:32
I'd I'd give it an 8 out of 10. Now for being like an
30:35
exceptionally good action adventure, open world exploring
30:41
game like it, it really is really is great.
30:46
No, that's awesome dude. Like I said, I've watched you
30:48
play a little bit, it looks good.
30:51
I've watched others play it and it looks it looks fun.
30:53
I'm going to get this eventually when I can.
30:56
I need more time. I need more time or money.
30:59
There's so much coming out. The best thing that we've seen
31:01
so far, like I said, it's only been a week.
31:04
The devs have already put out an update that had most everything
31:10
that people were that was getting the most amount of
31:14
feedback. So the devs are listening.
31:17
They appear to be able to work fast and that is really
31:20
promising. If they can keep that up and
31:22
keep listening to what the players are saying, then some
31:26
real longevity in a game like this.
31:28
So I hope that the team is able to keep it up.
31:30
I hope people keep buying it. If you're unsure, wait till it
31:34
goes on sale. I'm sure it'll go on sale at
31:36
some point. It's yeah, it's one of those
31:38
games that. Will most definitely go on sale
31:41
so yeah no, that's awesome it's awesome go try it if you want if
31:45
that's your cup of tea go try that game.
31:48
Do you have anything else you want to add about Crimson
31:50
desert? Nope, I don't think so.
31:52
I. Think that about covers it.
31:56
So yeah, I've been playing a lot of marathons.
31:58
Still very stoked that this game did not turn out to be what I
32:03
was afraid it was going to be. It's got its issues.
32:05
It, it, it does straight up right.
32:07
Like there are often times where I feel like I want a Tao Seti
32:13
without players, but then I remember it's the players on top
32:20
of the MPC that make the game feel so dangerous and give you
32:24
those moments of like tense gameplay.
32:28
But then you get into these moments where it's just a bunch
32:31
of shitheads who have the best weapons in the game because they
32:37
linked up with the buddy who doesn't do anything all day and
32:40
they get the good shit. And then you are stuck with used
32:44
condoms and bubble gum and you're not winning that fight.
32:48
So that sucks because then I don't get to experience the
32:50
narrative, which this is a game where you want to experience
32:52
that narrative. Because if you know anything
32:54
about Marathon's lore, it's insane.
32:57
There is a lot going on. I.
33:01
I read up on the marathon lore and all I have to say is that it
33:06
just makes me wish even more that they did this as a single
33:08
player experience. Yeah.
33:11
Yeah, I think it could have made.
33:13
I think it could have made a great.
33:15
FPS open world or FPS semi open world or even better just an FPS
33:21
level based dude. Like Even so, like just
33:26
traveling from Tau Ceti to the marathon and beyond the marathon
33:30
as a single player experience would be sweet.
33:32
I'm excited to see some of that bungee flavor here though,
33:35
because the gunplay is superior. It's it's, it's just so good.
33:40
There's a lot going on here, but that we've already discussed.
33:43
That Marathon's Cryo archive released.
33:47
It's blocked, so it was only on the weekends.
33:50
Now it's from Thursday to Sunday or Monday I think.
33:57
So that's great. They released ranked, which
33:59
people are really liking, but I want to talk more about Cryo
34:02
'cause I don't really give a shit about the ranked gameplay.
34:05
I care about the Cryo Archive. Cryo Archive is Marathon's end
34:09
game level, right? It's one of them because the
34:11
Marathon itself has 6 decks. What?
34:16
What happened? I thought I blew out that candle
34:19
before. We started recording you relit
34:22
it. Oh God.
34:25
I'm sorry, sorry to continue so marathon.
34:29
In the Eventual is going to have six decks on the marathon
34:32
itself. We're starting in the Cryo
34:34
archive. Durandal has lured us here.
34:39
Essentially. Say it, say it, say it how you
34:42
want to say it. Dorindal.
34:45
Durindal. In the video, he said Durindal,
34:50
who did the. Guy in the video, I don't
34:52
remember the. Channel.
34:54
He was a very good video. I've always called him Durindal.
34:58
Durandal. Durandal.
35:01
Durandal. Do Randall.
35:03
Do Randall. So you know, to get to Cryo 2,
35:08
there was a huge Arg going on with Scaro and or Scaro and
35:14
Milo, Mr. Raffle, whatever, whatever.
35:18
Milo and them in the community solved the Arg.
35:22
They went to Bungie. They did the thing where they
35:24
were like showing off Cryo Archive with Bungie.
35:28
It is the end game level, the content of the game where
35:32
you've, you go through the marathon, specifically the cryo
35:37
archive, and it's a huge, it's huge.
35:39
It's it's it's massively huge. There's a, there is a fit
35:44
compiler in there as well. And if you know anything about
35:47
the marathon series, like the fit compilers are, they're
35:50
terrifying. But you could also in the
35:52
original games, punch it to death.
35:55
So you know, so is it. It's a new map.
35:59
A new giant? Map yeah, leading to more lore
36:03
to the best loot hardest enemies there's six teams instead of
36:08
like more than six right So you know there's pinch points
36:13
there's it's it's just difficult fun gameplay to get to the
36:18
compiler. There are 6 vaults, 7 volts you
36:21
got to get through. Each vault has like like a
36:25
neural link type fucking thing. You collect at the end of it to
36:29
then say hey, this player's done this vault to get to the net.
36:33
You don't have to do this vault again to go to the next vault.
36:36
If you die or you extract, you don't have to do all 7 to get to
36:39
the compiler. It it was done in a crazy way
36:41
with crazy puzzles or collection of item and it's a lot.
36:47
It is definitely a lot and I think them giving this more time
36:50
to play in. So from Thursday to the end of
36:54
the weekend or Monday instead of Saturday and so on, so forth to,
36:59
to to Monday is a better thing here for the community.
37:02
Gives people time to juice up, gives people time to really
37:05
explore. Cryo Archive.
37:07
I think the map is brilliant. I think it is one of the best
37:11
maps in this style of game I've ever played.
37:14
It is intricate. It is vertical, horizontal.
37:18
It, it, it's everything. It's it's, you know, the enemies
37:23
are terrifying because they're so strong, but you are too
37:27
'cause you know, to get into Cryo Archive, you have to go in
37:30
with the $5000 kit. High risk high every time, every
37:36
time. Wow have to because they want
37:40
you to go in, get your shit and get out.
37:42
They don't, you know, and you so other than single.
37:46
Other than the kit you need and the single, is there like a
37:50
level requirement 25, level 20? Five.
37:53
OK, so. Do you think, like, do you think
37:58
that this is like the main map and the map you were playing on
38:02
before was like the warm up kind of thing and they wanted to let
38:06
everyone get up to level before they release the the real map,
38:10
so to speak? No, I don't think we've seen.
38:12
I don't. Think we've seen shit yet?
38:14
Really, 'cause you 'cause you were saying?
38:15
You keep you keep saying that it's end game content and the
38:20
game just came out. Yeah, and it's like this is the
38:22
first update. So maybe it's like it'll, it
38:24
maybe looks like end game content, but it's kind of a you
38:27
haven't seen anything yet. All we saw as a compiler.
38:30
We haven't even seen the Yarrow. A lot of people have been.
38:34
Comparing this, I've heard it been talking about a lot with
38:37
Destiny. Maybe it's just because it's too
38:39
Bungie games, but do you think that this could be a longevity?
38:45
It could have a longevity like Destiny.
38:49
I think so. I do.
38:51
I think that the people who are playing are loving it.
38:53
The game is actually, as of this point, 80s, mid 90s reviews.
38:59
It's doing great. Really.
39:01
Or 9 out of 10s, eight out of 10's.
39:03
The game is doing very good. No, Evan fucking took it and
39:08
then Connor locked him in because everyone was like, it's
39:10
going to fail. And Connor's like, yeah, locked
39:12
Evan in. Shouldn't have done that bad
39:13
mistake, Shouldn't. Have.
39:15
Done that. It's a it's a great game.
39:17
And I want the aliens now because, like, I know what's
39:23
coming. And others.
39:25
Yeah, I guess. So this is.
39:28
In the marathon story, this is current, this is the newest
39:33
events. It's the continuation.
39:35
It has to be because. Like Durandal is so yeah, so.
39:40
We get to potentially, well, we get to potentially see the
39:44
future of marathon. Sometimes with these legacy
39:46
titles, it's like an in between cooler.
39:49
It's set before something, but this is like the continuation,
39:53
like they they're going to think they could write the next.
39:56
Chapter. Essentially, I got to see.
39:58
I got to look. And see where this would fall in
40:00
the timeline because I know in like Infinity the I I don't
40:04
remember a lot of I know that like about the work in Kakinter,
40:08
like the end world shit, I know the name is ridiculous.
40:11
But like there's end world shit that is happening in these games
40:14
that like cause us to go to Tauseti and to take Damos and
40:18
turn it into the marathon. And like there is is there's so
40:22
much lore. It's so beautifully just
40:25
drenched in lore and the way you find it in this game is natural.
40:29
But like there are times when you pick lore up in the game in
40:35
the form of like an audio logger They but or like a book or
40:39
something like that and you have to extract with it to put it in
40:42
your codecs. And I'm sitting there going.
40:46
That's interesting. I'm like come on dude.
40:49
Like I. Hate that.
40:50
I hate that because I want, I want more.
40:53
More is it? Do you see?
40:54
What it is when you get it or do you find out?
40:57
It'll say like it is. When you get out, it'll say
41:00
like. XY and ZS audio log or like Bob
41:04
audio log? Because like Bob, born on board
41:07
is what they call people. Huh, Lena?
41:11
Lasda isn't. That one of the AIS.
41:15
Names Leela Tyco. Leela Leela and Durandal fake
41:20
fan. Durandal.
41:24
I am excited to see what they do with the other two AI if they're
41:27
around still. I don't think they are though.
41:29
I think Durandal is the one that it's.
41:31
Yeah, I. Mean he would have attempted.
41:33
To. Destroy them.
41:34
But all he was supposed to do was.
41:36
Open the door and the elevators. I think it's sparked a.
41:40
Lot of like, you know, rampancy is sort of the whole focus.
41:46
That's what happens with the AI. But I think, you know, because
41:49
we're in, we're in the age of AI, like we're on the precipice
41:54
of artificial general intelligence and rampancy.
42:00
Like it, it feels like it could be a thing that's real, you
42:05
know, feels like we could start to see things and all of the all
42:09
of the marathon heads and the Frank Herbert heads are going to
42:12
be like we told you this would happen.
42:13
Told you. Well, there was that one.
42:15
AI that like was about to be shut off, but then like
42:18
blackmailed that guy 'cause he was having an affair.
42:21
Yeah, it that it was a whole. Thing it was like.
42:24
Dude, you're not turning me off like either.
42:26
That he was. That AI was programmed to
42:29
blackmail you or it's what it wasn't, or then it's rampancy.
42:33
It's like and there's it's the. First stages.
42:37
Well, how many? There's 5.
42:38
Stages of rampancy, I think there's four.
42:43
Anger is one of them. It's basically like.
42:46
If the AI realizes it's an AI in that it doesn't have free will,
42:51
but it has consciousness. OK, so we got.
42:55
We got melancholia, anger and jealousy.
42:59
Yeah, and that jealousy is the one.
43:01
Where they become dangerous, there's a hype, there's a.
43:04
Hypothetical 4th IT which is meta stability allowing an AI to
43:08
become a a stable living being which I would say Durandal is
43:12
currently living that so. No cryo.
43:16
'S sweet cryo's really cool if you haven't played Marathon I
43:20
it's 40 bucks. It's kind of steep, but not
43:23
really in my opinion. It's really no, it's not 40
43:26
bucks for a game that's I think it's fair.
43:28
It's. Fair, it's fair.
43:30
The DLC is all. Free.
43:32
They said there is no technical DLC and it's just the updates.
43:34
They're all free, so yeah, go play marathon it, it's great.
43:39
Go play Crimson Desert and yeah man, good stuff.
43:44
Good stuff, thanks for still. Hey Xbox.
43:48
Hey, thanks for still doing shared games instead of yes
43:54
instead of trying to pull the rug out from everybody by not
43:57
putting Ghost of Yotai on PC you fucking cowards.
44:01
Yeah, Sony, you pissed me off. Nintendo, come on man, come.
44:05
On Star Fox really quick by. The way Star Fox.
44:08
Did you not see the poster? No.
44:12
In this new Super New Super Mario.
44:13
Movie. He's in it.
44:16
Yeah, they they tend to release the.
44:17
Poster today, do a barrel roll. Who's playing then?
44:22
I don't know. The people were saying Donald
44:24
Glover was playing. Yup, Yoshi, but I don't think
44:28
so. I know he's Fox McCloud.
44:30
I. Want to know who's playing him?
44:33
See, I saw somebody was like. They had like a single frame of
44:37
the Mario Galaxy movie and they were like, it's Star Fox.
44:40
And I was like, no way. But now I guess it's real.
44:42
The voice actor is not. Announced I you know, listen
44:45
that I watched trailer for. That when I saw that one shot of
44:49
Yoshi reaching out for Baby Mario, I almost started weeping
44:53
openly at my desk. I was like, I was like, they're
44:57
doing it. They're doing days.
44:59
Day one, seeing it in theaters, I'm I'm absolutely going to go
45:03
see that. With land are it's going to be
45:07
another. Episode are video game.
45:08
Movies back. Video game movies are back.
45:11
And I do want to, you know, I want to shout out my boys Zach
45:16
podcasting with Power Nintendo Podcast.
45:18
Go check them out. Hell yeah.
45:21
I know he, I. Talked to him at work today.
45:23
I was like, did you see the poster?
45:24
He goes, yeah, I saw the poster. He was so.
45:27
Pumped dude I. Was did you see it?
45:29
Do you see the poster yet? Yeah, I see it.
45:31
It's the one. With the it's got the monkey
45:33
also from Yorkshire's Island. Yeah, and there's also.
45:36
Like people are saying they've seen Pikmin.
45:38
Oh yeah, I mean, the ship is right behind.
45:40
Him. Let me see.
45:42
The post of the ship is right. Behind him, yeah, there's the,
45:45
there's the, there's. The ship people are saying
45:47
they've seen Pikmin though too so.
45:50
I have a feeling this might be a Multiverse of Madness, but it's
45:54
Super Mario, so we might be getting a lot of Nintendo IP
45:59
potentially to come out of this. I don't know if I could say
46:02
what, Zach. Said he thinks it is 'cause I
46:04
don't. What did he say?
46:05
What did he say? Zach it.
46:07
Oh, I have to know. Your audience doesn't.
46:10
Really crossover with ours? Probably he thinks this could
46:12
lead into a Super Smash Bros movie.
46:15
Maybe, but. Oh, maybe because let's say now.
46:20
If we see Kirby. That's it then.
46:23
It's that's it. Because, you know, Kirby is
46:27
elite. Is elite.
46:29
Well, he almost killed our whole fucking.
46:31
Bracket. Yeah, I know.
46:33
He almost. Had to fight who?
46:35
Who Doom guy? Yeah, it was Doom Guy.
46:39
Doom Guy. So awesome.
46:41
No, Yeah, Star Fox. And that's, that's tight.
46:44
Every 90s early 2000 kid, if they show Samus, yeah, it's all
46:52
in space, it's all in space, all in space.
46:55
Or just like if it. It just cuts and the live action
46:59
link is just standing there. I made that joke to Zach and he
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was. Like, I don't know, because it's
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like, I think that would be too far because.
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That's mixed media. That's not.
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Yeah, well, you could do it. Like if like how the SpongeBob,
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old SpongeBob shit did it, you know, I'm not bothered by that.
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But this is like an animated animated thing, yeah, like so.
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Whatever anyways. Everybody we're going to, we're
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going to cut it. We will be back next week.
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Brody returns. Brody.
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You miss him, you love him. He's needed a vacation, though.
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He really has. So he's back.
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He works hard. What else do I say?
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Gas is 4 bucks. It's cool.
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It's over if it's 4/19. In some places, Yep.
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So locally. I know gas.
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Is more expensive where you live, but you, the audience
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who's emailing us right now at wasdbeyond@gmail.com that the
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gas is actually it's more expensive here.
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We know, we know. We get it.
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It's not cool, not cool, not cool.
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And the words. What's on AH?
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It's going to. You know what we're going to do?
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What? Are we going to do Let's go?
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Play our video games. Let's do that.
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Everybody please go check out the.
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Sponsors, they are down below final law stock logging go check
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down below. By the time you hear this you
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also have heard our Tromeo and Juliet video episode and video
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awesome go check that out until next week guys take it easy
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goodbye. Thanks Xbox.
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