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A Spectacular and Extraordinary Thing: Six Exceptionally Strange Close Encounters of the Second Kind · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for joining me. I truly appreciate it. Got
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Speaker 1: a very special episode for you Today. I'm going to
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Speaker 1: be talking about close encounters of the second kind. These
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Speaker 1: are cases in which the UFOs affect the environment or
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Speaker 1: the witness in some way. The title of today's episode
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Speaker 1: is called a Spectacular and Extraordinary Thing. Six exceptionally strange
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Speaker 1: close encounters of the second kind. I think these cases
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Speaker 1: have a lot to teach us about the extraterrestrial presence
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Speaker 1: on our planet. I think these cases don't get enough attention.
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Speaker 1: That's why I really wanted to talk about them today.
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Speaker 1: The six cases I have for you come from all
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Speaker 1: over the world, including Canada, England, Italy, Spain, Alaska, and
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. So let's just get started. First case I
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Speaker 1: want to talk about today I call a Deafening UFO.
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Speaker 1: This one occurred a very long time ago, one day
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Speaker 1: in July of nineteen forty four, in the very small
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Speaker 1: town of Vandy. This is located in Quebec, Canada. And yes,
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Speaker 1: this is a very unusual case. This very early case
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Speaker 1: comes from French Canadian researcher Mark Leeduc. It involves two
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Speaker 1: seven year old twin girls, Lizette and Lee's Bergeron, who
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Speaker 1: at the time of their encounter resided in the very
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Speaker 1: isolated and small town of Vandry, located in the Canadian
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Speaker 1: wilderness of south central Quebec, Canada. Was one brilliant, cloudless
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Speaker 1: afternoon in July of nineteen forty four that Lizette and
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Speaker 1: Lees played in a field not far from their home
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Speaker 1: with around two thirty pm when the twins' attention was
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Speaker 1: drawn towards an object in the sky above them. A
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Speaker 1: large disc shaped craft was moving at a forty five
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Speaker 1: degree angle, and as it moved, this disk descended slowly
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Speaker 1: in a wobbling fashion and making a loud, terrifying whistling sound,
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Speaker 1: as the twin said, something like a boiling teapot, but
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Speaker 1: lower in pitch and much louder. The object grew larger
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Speaker 1: as it moved closer, and then it stopped at an
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Speaker 1: estimated forty feet directly above the girl's heads. Now, at
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Speaker 1: this point both girls found themselves being pinned to the
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Speaker 1: ground by a wish of air coming from the craft,
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Speaker 1: or perhaps by some force in fact, their clothes were
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Speaker 1: pressed to their bodies, and Lizette said it felt as
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Speaker 1: if a weight was pressed against her body. The grass
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Speaker 1: itself was being affected as it was being bent down
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Speaker 1: by the pressure coming from this craft. At this point,
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Speaker 1: the whistling sound grew quieter, and the craft stopped wobbling
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Speaker 1: and seemed to stabilize itself, And now both girls could
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Speaker 1: hear another sound, which they likened to a pencil against glass.
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Speaker 1: Lees was so frightened that she herself didn't look and
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Speaker 1: hid her face against the ground. Lizette, however, using a
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Speaker 1: great effort of strength and will power, barely managed to
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Speaker 1: turn her head to get a better look at this craft,
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Speaker 1: and she estimates that this disc was about one hundred
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Speaker 1: feet wide. She said it had a very beautiful shiny,
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Speaker 1: golden metallic color. The bottom section of the craft was
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Speaker 1: covered in concentric circular lines. It had a glassy dome
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Speaker 1: on top through which Lizette could see shifting colors of red, green, yellow,
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Speaker 1: and blue. She said the craft had a rotating section
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Speaker 1: with circles and squares of very bright red, green, yellow,
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Speaker 1: and blue lights around the perimeter. Without warning, a cylindrical
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Speaker 1: section about fifteen feet wide extended from the bottom of
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Speaker 1: the craft, who remained there for about three minutes, and
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Speaker 1: then retracted back into the craft, leaving behind no visible scene. Now,
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Speaker 1: the craft began to wobble, while the lights around the
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Speaker 1: perimeter began to spin faster and grow brighter. The object
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Speaker 1: then shot up into the sky at an incredible speed
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Speaker 1: and headed northeast and was gone. This entire sighting lasted
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Speaker 1: about twenty minutes, which is a pretty long time, but
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Speaker 1: then came the strange after effects. The children ran home
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Speaker 1: and both discovered that they were completely deaf. They could
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Speaker 1: not hear any noise whatsoever. This condition persisted for several weeks.
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Speaker 1: During that time, Lizette and Lees, who were traumatized by
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Speaker 1: the encounter emotionally, pretty much remained in hiding. Their mother
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Speaker 1: tried to get them to attend school, but the teacher
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Speaker 1: advised her to keep the twins at home as their
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Speaker 1: behavior had become quote erratic. Now, thankfully, the girl's hearing
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Speaker 1: did return and they had no other ill effects, but
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Speaker 1: there were some other curious details. One detail the researchers
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Speaker 1: to this case noted was that the site where the
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Speaker 1: girls had been playing at the time of their encounter
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Speaker 1: was in fact, inside a circle of burned sand and
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Speaker 1: grass where their father had burned some material about one
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Speaker 1: year earlier, so the grass there didn't grow at all,
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Speaker 1: and they were sitting inside this burned circle when their
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Speaker 1: encounter happened. Also during that month, other people in this
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Speaker 1: very tiny town of Vandry also reported seeing the same
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Speaker 1: or similar object. Most tragically, Lee's and Lizette's father's hair
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Speaker 1: turned white within a single week of this encounter, and
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Speaker 1: over the next three weeks he seemed to age rapidly,
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Speaker 1: and then he passed away. Our researchers, of course, couldn't
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Speaker 1: say whether or even if this was related to the
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Speaker 1: twins' sighting. As mar LeDuc, the researcher writes, quote, for
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Speaker 1: the moment, we have not gathered enough details to explain
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Speaker 1: these events, but we will return to the subject soon.
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Speaker 1: So unfortunately, there was no further information published about this case.
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Speaker 1: I have to say, I have never heard a case
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Speaker 1: quite like that before. Really unusual physiological effects. Kind of
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Speaker 1: feels like an opportunistic event that this UFO, the UFO
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Speaker 1: occupants saw these two little girls playing outside and just
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Speaker 1: came down and hovered over them. I don't know, it's
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Speaker 1: very hard to say for sure. I would have loved
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Speaker 1: to follow up to see if these witnesses experienced any
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Speaker 1: further events. Apparently they did not, because this case is
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Speaker 1: pretty thoroughly investigated. What's really unusual to me is, of course,
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Speaker 1: what happened to the father. We can't directly tie this
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Speaker 1: in to the UFO event, but given that it was
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Speaker 1: such a weird encounter that his strange condition manifested shortly later,
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Speaker 1: I suppose it's possible there's a connection. Very hard to
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Speaker 1: say for sure, but definitely a case worthy of being
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Speaker 1: well known. All right, let's move to the next encounter,
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Speaker 1: which I call the greatest shock of my life. This
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Speaker 1: one occurred on October second, nineteen fifty six, in Trenton,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey. It's technically a multiple witness case. This one
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Speaker 1: got an enormous amount of publicity, and yet somehow it
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Speaker 1: slid under the radar of a lot of people. Think
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Speaker 1: it's an important case. Again, this case has been widely
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Speaker 1: published in newspapers, magazines, journals, and in many UFO books,
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Speaker 1: and for good reason. It's a very unusual and in
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Speaker 1: some ways a landmark UFO incident. Was just before four
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Speaker 1: a m. On October second nineteen fifty six, when a
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Speaker 1: five year old boy living on Parkside Avenue in Trenton,
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Speaker 1: New Jersey, was lying awake in bed and for some
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Speaker 1: reason went to the window and looked outside, and this
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Speaker 1: is when he saw quote, a big lighted ball with
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Speaker 1: a tail. He said it arked across the sky. He
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Speaker 1: ran and told his parents, but they dismissed it as
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Speaker 1: a dream and told him to just go back to bed.
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Speaker 1: Around the same time as this incident, another gentleman by
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Speaker 1: the name of Peter Borza, a thirty eight year old
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Speaker 1: newspaper delivery person, was driving his vehicle along the same
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Speaker 1: Parkside Avenue. This was near Cadwellater Park, not far from
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Speaker 1: the above child's home, when he saw what he described
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Speaker 1: as a quote white glowing body. So there's two witnesses
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Speaker 1: who are seeing a UFO in the same area at
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Speaker 1: the same time. And of course now we get to
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Speaker 1: our main witness was at three forty five am, fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes before the two above side that Harry J. Sturdevant,
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Speaker 1: a sixty six year old night watchman for the Herbert
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Speaker 1: Elkins Construction Company with twenty years of experience as a
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Speaker 1: night watchman. He was in his patrol car making his
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Speaker 1: rounds to guard the construction site. He parked his car
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Speaker 1: and walked over to the edge of the Delaware River,
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Speaker 1: just across from Rotary Island at the end of Riverside
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Speaker 1: Drive and looked up towards the Redding Railway Bridge over
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Speaker 1: the river. And this is when he saw a red
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Speaker 1: ball of light appear over the bridge. It seemed to
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Speaker 1: be coming from the distance, and immediately it moved at
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Speaker 1: great speed towards him. A few seconds later, this red
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Speaker 1: object stopped about fifteen feet above the water, one hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty feet away from the shore, at the midpoint
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Speaker 1: between the Reading Railway Bridge and Rotary Island. And Harry
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Speaker 1: the witness could now see that the red light was
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Speaker 1: in fact a glowing red craft with a smooth surface
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Speaker 1: about one hundred feet long and fifteen feet in diameter,
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Speaker 1: somewhat cigar shaped. He immediately heard a hissing sound and
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Speaker 1: smelled an overpowering noxious odor. It then swooped past Harry,
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Speaker 1: close enough that this foul odor enveloped him. And I'll
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Speaker 1: just quote Harry directly as he says it had no
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Speaker 1: wings and no fins. I heard no propulsion coming from
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Speaker 1: it except a hissing sound like an escaping steam. It
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Speaker 1: shot down past me and went into thin air. It
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Speaker 1: gave me the greatest shock of my life. There was
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Speaker 1: a smell like sulfur or brimstone. It was something I
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Speaker 1: had never smelled before. I don't know what it was,
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Speaker 1: except it was very nauseating and it made me very sick.
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Speaker 1: So in a matter of seconds, this object soared upwards
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Speaker 1: about five hundred feet and disappeared quote into thin air.
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Speaker 1: The smell now was so overpowering that Harry was instantly nauseated,
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Speaker 1: to the point that he couldn't swallow, and in fact
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Speaker 1: he collapsed onto the ground and had to crawl to
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Speaker 1: his patrol car a short distance away. He climbed inside
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Speaker 1: the vehicle and sat behind the wheel, utterly dazed and disoriented.
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Speaker 1: He said his eyes were watering. He realized his hearing
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Speaker 1: was impaired, and his sense of smell, he soon learned,
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Speaker 1: was now gone. Now, Harry had fought in World War One,
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Speaker 1: and he had been exposed to mustard gas and a
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Speaker 1: lot of dangerous experiences, but he said that this encounter
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Speaker 1: was much worse than any of that. Says Harry, I
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Speaker 1: lost my sense of taste and smell. My throat would
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Speaker 1: not swallow properly. The terrible odor was so rank that
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Speaker 1: turned my stomach upside down, with very sharp pains that
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Speaker 1: caused me to vomit violently. So he wanted to drive
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Speaker 1: and get help, but he was helpless to do so.
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Speaker 1: It took him more than a half hour to feel
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Speaker 1: well enough to even control his vehicle. When he did,
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Speaker 1: he drove straight to his company trailer and called the
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Speaker 1: police and told them, quote, I just saw a flying saucer. Now.
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Speaker 1: When daylight arrived, Lieutenant Ernest Louis and Lieutenant Adolph Miller
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Speaker 1: questioned Harry extensively and were convinced that he was telling
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Speaker 1: the truth. Soon word leaked out to the newspapers, and
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Speaker 1: was then that reporter Emil Slaboda of the Trenttonian newspaper
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Speaker 1: interviewed Harry Sturdevant the day after the encounter. Harry's face
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Speaker 1: was burnt so badly that he says he was unable
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Speaker 1: to shave for two weeks, and the hearing in his
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Speaker 1: right ear continued to deteriorate. Reporter Emil Slabota writes, and
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Speaker 1: I quote, during my eight years as a crime reporter,
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Speaker 1: on the Trentonian. I have run into many instances where
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Speaker 1: a hoax was perpetrated or attempted, but never have I
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Speaker 1: found any person as overwrought as mister Sturdevant was that night.
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Speaker 1: His state was such that tears were streaming from his eyes.
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Speaker 1: Something terrified him. Now. The afternoon after the encounter, Harry
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Speaker 1: did return to the site and he saw that the
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Speaker 1: trees near the UFO had been badly burned. As he says,
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Speaker 1: the leaves, as far as I could see, had burned
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Speaker 1: and fallen to the ground like burned tissue paper. Following
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Speaker 1: this encounter, Harry's symptoms continued. He had completely lost his
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Speaker 1: sense of taste and smell. His hearing was still affected.
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Speaker 1: He sought medical treatment to no avail, and his medical
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Speaker 1: bills started to mount. He was unable to work, so
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Speaker 1: Harry applied to New Jersey's Workmen's Compensation Fund. Lawyers for
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Speaker 1: the Herbert Elkins Construction Company opposed the application, and this
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Speaker 1: led to a legal hearing, which was refereed by state
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Speaker 1: official Leonard B. Willetts. The lawyer's opposed seeing Harry Sturdivant
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Speaker 1: said that the whole incident had just been Harry's imagination,
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Speaker 1: and they found some police witnesses who said that Harry's
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Speaker 1: Sturdivant was quote a highly emotional individual, and the lawyers
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Speaker 1: argued that despite Harry's injuries, the UFO was a product
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Speaker 1: of his imagination quote conjured up out of the air. Ultimately,
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Speaker 1: the referee, Leonard B. Willitts, sided with Harry Sturdevant, saying, quote,
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Speaker 1: it did not matter whether Sturdivant really saw anything. The
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Speaker 1: important point was that the watchman thought he saw something
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Speaker 1: and it was his duty to investigate. So Willets ruled
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Speaker 1: in Harry Sturdivant's favor and that he should be compensated
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Speaker 1: for his medical injuries received while on the job. Reporter
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Speaker 1: Emiel Staboda wrote, such a decision almost amounts to an
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Speaker 1: admission by the state that flying saucers do exist. Not surprisingly,
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Speaker 1: lawyers of the Elkins company appealed the ruling, and on
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Speaker 1: April twenty second, nineteen fifty eight, more than a year
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Speaker 1: and a half after Harry's encounter, Roger W. Kelly, the
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Speaker 1: Compensation Division Deputy director, ultimately ruled in favor of the
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Speaker 1: Elkins company and said that Harry Sturdivant's medical bills and
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Speaker 1: injuries were the result of quote, a hallucination. Now at
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Speaker 1: this time Harry still had not regained his sense of
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Speaker 1: smell and taste. The ruling infuriated reporter Amiel Slaboda, who
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Speaker 1: two months later penned a letter to the UFO group
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Speaker 1: c SI Civilian Saucer Intelligence, writing that and I quote,
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Speaker 1: I can only state that, to the best of my knowledge,
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Speaker 1: he Harry Sturdivant was telling the truth. And in fact,
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Speaker 1: the reporter Amiel ended up writing an article for Fate
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Speaker 1: magazine in the June nineteen fifty eight issue detailing this case,
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Speaker 1: and as Harry himself says, I don't want to talk
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Speaker 1: about it anymore because I want to forget the experience.
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Speaker 1: This was the first time in my life I was
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Speaker 1: ever scared of anything. That case is in some ways unprecedented.
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Speaker 1: It's the first time anyone applied for workers' compensation as
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Speaker 1: the result of a UFO encounter. And it's just such
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Speaker 1: a shame that it was ultimately denied, because certainly it
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Speaker 1: wasn't a hallucination, not if other people are seeing it,
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Speaker 1: and he's affected so profoundly physically, and as he said,
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Speaker 1: it was a very scary experience for him, an amazing
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Speaker 1: encounter that definitely deserves to be well known. So now
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Speaker 1: let's move to the next close encounter of this second kind.
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Speaker 1: This one is really unusual as well. I call this
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Speaker 1: one I was visited. This occurred on December twenty, nineteen
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Speaker 1: sixty eight, in Juno, Alaska, and it is a witness case,
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Speaker 1: but I wanted to include it because it has some
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Speaker 1: details to it that I have never heard before. This
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Speaker 1: case is a single witness case, and the witness was
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Speaker 1: only five years old at the time it occurred. But
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Speaker 1: it's a very unusual and compelling encounter. The witness provided
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Speaker 1: his first hand testimony to the National UFO Reporting Center,
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Speaker 1: Newfork some thirty one years after it occurred, and as
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Speaker 1: he says, the memory burns bright. The witness says it
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Speaker 1: occurred very near Christmas in nineteen sixty eight in his
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Speaker 1: parents' home in Juno, Alaska. I'll just let the witness
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Speaker 1: describe what happened in his own words. As he is anonymous,
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Speaker 1: I'll call him Paul. The encounter began late at night,
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Speaker 1: and as Paul says, I was awakened by a medium bright,
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Speaker 1: whitish or bluish white light coming in through the window.
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Speaker 1: Was many times brighter than any moonlight could ever be.
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Speaker 1: When I toddled out of my bed and stepped into
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Speaker 1: the beam, I quickly became paralyzed and unable to move.
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Speaker 1: The object I could see out the window had the
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Speaker 1: appearance of a half moon, but was tilted at a
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Speaker 1: bizarre angle, and the flat side wasn't flat. It had
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Speaker 1: a kind of scalloped edge like you might see on
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Speaker 1: the tops of medieval castle towers. It appeared about double
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Speaker 1: or triple the size of the moon. Being so young
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Speaker 1: at the time, it's really difficult to estimate, but I'd
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Speaker 1: say it was hovering in place, no more than a
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Speaker 1: few hundred feet away, probably one hundred and fifty feet
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Speaker 1: in altitude. Now Paul heard no sound, nor did he
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Speaker 1: ever see any aliens, and after an undetermined amount of
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Speaker 1: time standing paralyzed in this beam of light, Paul estimates
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Speaker 1: it was about fifteen or thirty minutes the light winked
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Speaker 1: out and he was able to move. But it was
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Speaker 1: what happened afterwards that was particularly unusual. As Paul says,
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Speaker 1: immediately after the light went away, my hearing was highly enhanced.
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Speaker 1: A pin dropping or a floor beam cracking would sound
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Speaker 1: like a piece of rebar being slammed down onto concrete,
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Speaker 1: and I had what I might now describe as a
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Speaker 1: kind of altered sense of awareness for hours afterwards. Now,
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Speaker 1: while this effect was most pronounced immediately after the encounter,
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Speaker 1: Paul continued to have episodes of enhanced awareness. As Paul says,
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Speaker 1: following this night, I had very frequent and repeated, often
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Speaker 1: nightly instances of a kind of dreamlike state. But each
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Speaker 1: would start the same. Square or rectangular blocks of brilliant yellows, greens,
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Speaker 1: and blues would appear in my visual field, rapidly appearing
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Speaker 1: and superimposing themselves over previous ones. Shortly thereafter, an area
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Speaker 1: of scintillating green would appear at the center. My hearing
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Speaker 1: would be enhanced, as it was the night after the event.
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Speaker 1: At this point, I'd become paralyzed and unable to move,
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Speaker 1: yet would be wide awake. Often this would occur well
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Speaker 1: before I'd even start to fall asleep, or would occur
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Speaker 1: in broad daylight while playing or at the table. A
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Speaker 1: sense of great fear accompanied these Now, this effect continued
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Speaker 1: throughout Paul's childhood and adolescence, and then to some extent
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Speaker 1: into adulthood and as Paul says, over many years, I
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Speaker 1: learned a technique that would snap me out of these
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Speaker 1: most of the time, and after that they slowly decreased
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Speaker 1: and finally virtually disappeared. By the time I was twenty
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Speaker 1: or so. Only rarely do these visions ever appear anymore,
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Speaker 1: and I can almost always abort them before they go
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Speaker 1: into their fear inducing paralytic stage. Now, whatever this effect is,
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Speaker 1: Paul is convinced that it was because of his encounter,
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Speaker 1: and as he says, I firmly believe I was visited
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Speaker 1: and have always believed. But who do you tell? Until now,
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Speaker 1: only a couple of people over all these years, have
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Speaker 1: ever known. It is time for this to come out
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Speaker 1: and become public. All about that very interesting. There are
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Speaker 1: quite a few cases where people report having their senses
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Speaker 1: enhanced in some way. Most often I hear its vision
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Speaker 1: hearing is one that I really haven't heard, not quite
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Speaker 1: in that way. So that is why I wanted to
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Speaker 1: include that case. It's so unusual and really just different.
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Speaker 1: Every case has something to offer to our understanding of
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Speaker 1: what's going on here with the extraterrestrial presence on our planet.
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Speaker 1: So now let's move to the next case. Of all
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Speaker 1: the cases in this collection, this one rarely qualifies as
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Speaker 1: a close encounter of the second kind, but it absolutely
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Speaker 1: does because it did affect the environment. I call this
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Speaker 1: one the UFO in the cotton field. This one occurred
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Speaker 1: one evening in August nineteen seventy three in Guarna, Spain.
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Speaker 1: And yes, this one has multiple witnesses. It's quite well verified,
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Speaker 1: in my mind undeniable. I've got a little bit more
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Speaker 1: to say about it after I present this case to you.
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Speaker 1: This case comes from Spanish researchers Joaquin Matteos Nogales, Manuel
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Speaker 1: Philpo Cabana, g Andrew Delos Santos and Antonio Moya Serpa,
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Speaker 1: all members of Centro des a Studios Interplanetarios or the
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Speaker 1: Center of Implanetary Studies. This is located in Barcelona. This
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Speaker 1: case first appeared in the center's publication stand Deck in
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Speaker 1: the March nineteen seventy nine issue, in an article titled
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Speaker 1: Ovni's Una nocha terible or UFOs A Terrible Night. It
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Speaker 1: was later reprinted in Flying Saucer Review in the November
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Speaker 1: December nineteen seventy nine issue. This case involves seven witnesses.
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Speaker 1: The primary witness is Antonio Fernando Gonzalez, Antonio and six
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Speaker 1: other men were all farm workers at a cotton farm
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Speaker 1: in a rural area of Garina, Spain. Around three point
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Speaker 1: thirty a m. One morning in mid August nineteen seventy three,
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Speaker 1: they were working in the fields to water the cotton.
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Speaker 1: They were applying the second watering of the night. They
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Speaker 1: each had flashlights and were checking on the irrigation as
23:21
Speaker 1: they walked between the rows of cotton plants. Antonio was
23:25
Speaker 1: the first of the men to see a white light
23:27
Speaker 1: coming down the side of a low hill off in
23:30
Speaker 1: the distance. Seeing that it looked strange, he called out
23:33
Speaker 1: to two of his co workers, Francisco Berrera and David Gonzalez,
23:37
Speaker 1: and asked if they had noticed this strange light. They
23:41
Speaker 1: had and suggested that it might be a car filled
23:44
Speaker 1: with hunters coming to the area. Antonio didn't think so,
23:47
Speaker 1: as he says, the light was too bright to be
23:49
Speaker 1: a car. So they continued working, and as they did,
23:53
Speaker 1: this light kept moving closer and was now becoming increasingly mysterious,
23:59
Speaker 1: and one of the workers looked at it and remarked,
24:01
Speaker 1: it gives me the creeps, and Tonio sat down on
24:04
Speaker 1: the irrigation pipe and said, it's coming much closer, and
24:07
Speaker 1: it's not a car, nor is it a plane. It
24:11
Speaker 1: was too high to be a car, and it was
24:12
Speaker 1: too low to be a plane. And by now all
24:16
Speaker 1: seven workers could see it, and they were becoming very
24:19
Speaker 1: nervous about it. One of the farm workers suddenly shouted out,
24:23
Speaker 1: it's one of those flying saucers that people are talking about,
24:26
Speaker 1: and Tonio agreed and said, yes, that's it. That's it,
24:30
Speaker 1: a flying saucer. Can't you see it is So, this
24:34
Speaker 1: object continued to move slowly closer, apparently just a few
24:38
Speaker 1: meters above the ground, and it was so bright that
24:41
Speaker 1: it hurt their eyes to even look at it. That
24:43
Speaker 1: they could now see that it was oval in shape,
24:45
Speaker 1: or more accurately, like an upside down bowl or dome shaped.
24:50
Speaker 1: Suddenly it was clear that this object was heading directly
24:53
Speaker 1: for them. They all quickly turned off their flashlights, but
24:56
Speaker 1: still the object approached. Soon the craft was only feet
25:00
Speaker 1: away and still coming directly for them. One of the
25:03
Speaker 1: men threw himself down in the mud between the rows
25:05
Speaker 1: of cotton, and shortly later the other six did the
25:08
Speaker 1: same thing. This light, which they could now see, was
25:11
Speaker 1: a craft of some kind passed directly over them. Looking up,
25:16
Speaker 1: they could see its perfectly round bottom side, which had
25:20
Speaker 1: a series of red lights. As soon as the object
25:23
Speaker 1: reached the men, it stopped and hovered, causing extreme terror
25:27
Speaker 1: among the group. In fact, the object was so low
25:29
Speaker 1: that it was grazing the tops of the cotton plants,
25:33
Speaker 1: and it was large, well over one hundred feet. A
25:35
Speaker 1: few of the men thought that perhaps the weird craft
25:38
Speaker 1: was actually going to land directly on them and flatten
25:41
Speaker 1: them to the ground. It was making a loud noise
25:44
Speaker 1: similar to a jet but different, and it was so
25:47
Speaker 1: bright it lit up the whole field like daylight. After
25:51
Speaker 1: a few terrifying moments, the craft slowly moved away, leaving
25:55
Speaker 1: behind a strange whitish mist. Antonio could now see through
25:59
Speaker 1: the whiteness of the craft that it was in fact metallic.
26:03
Speaker 1: It moved away, and the men switched their flashlights on
26:06
Speaker 1: and began working as fast as they could so they
26:09
Speaker 1: could finish and leave the area quickly. But suddenly the
26:12
Speaker 1: UFO came back for another run. Once again, it swept
26:17
Speaker 1: directly over them, and once again the men threw themselves
26:20
Speaker 1: to the ground in fear as it passed right over
26:23
Speaker 1: their heads. It kept going, leaving behind a whitish mist,
26:27
Speaker 1: but once again it circled back and came at them again.
26:31
Speaker 1: And it did this once or twice more, for a
26:33
Speaker 1: total of four or five times, with the last sweep
26:37
Speaker 1: being the lowest. The men feel certain that had they
26:40
Speaker 1: stood up, they would have bump their heads against it. Now,
26:43
Speaker 1: the men felt no heat coming from this object, nor
26:46
Speaker 1: did they experience any physical effects from it, and if
26:49
Speaker 1: it moved off, they rushed back to the household and
26:52
Speaker 1: woke everyone up to share what they had witnessed. Other
26:56
Speaker 1: workers at the opposite end of the farm were also
26:58
Speaker 1: in the fields of the time, but they did not
27:01
Speaker 1: see anything unusual, and that was the end of the encounter.
27:05
Speaker 1: The question is why was it so interested in the
27:07
Speaker 1: men or the cotton plants. This remains a mystery. However,
27:11
Speaker 1: not long after the incident, and this could be a clue,
27:15
Speaker 1: one of the farm workers, David Gonzalez, was returning home
27:19
Speaker 1: on his motorcycle after visiting his friend, and as he
27:22
Speaker 1: drove along the road, a UFO dropped down and landed
27:26
Speaker 1: in the middle of the road, blocking his way. David
27:29
Speaker 1: didn't hesitate, he leapt off his motorcycle, leaving it behind
27:34
Speaker 1: and ran back to his girlfriend's house. She ran outside
27:37
Speaker 1: just in time to watch the object take off. I
27:41
Speaker 1: think you'll agree that's a very unusual case. My question
27:45
Speaker 1: about it is why were these farm workers targeted? It
27:49
Speaker 1: certainly looks like it. Whether or not this encounter was
27:53
Speaker 1: intentional is of course up to question, but it certainly
27:56
Speaker 1: looks like it, given that this UFO kept swooping down
28:00
Speaker 1: over and over again or over these frightened farmworkers. So
28:04
Speaker 1: perhaps the UFO occupants saw their flashlights and just came
28:08
Speaker 1: down to investigate it, but it looks like they were
28:11
Speaker 1: giving them an encounter that was absolutely undeniable. Or maybe,
28:17
Speaker 1: and again I'm speculating here, maybe they were more interested
28:20
Speaker 1: in one particular witness there. Given that later one of
28:25
Speaker 1: the witnesses came upon a UFO landed in the road
28:28
Speaker 1: right in front of them, that seems to me more
28:31
Speaker 1: than just a coincidence. I don't know, but it's another
28:35
Speaker 1: case that really has a lot of high strangeness and
28:39
Speaker 1: adds to the whole bizarre catalog of UFO encounters that
28:44
Speaker 1: now numbers frankly in the millions. It's funny to me
28:48
Speaker 1: that people can deny the reality of UFOs when there
28:52
Speaker 1: are so many cases, it's absolutely undeniable. Now let's move
28:57
Speaker 1: to the next close encounter, which has got to be
29:00
Speaker 1: my favorite in this collection is usually one favorite, and
29:03
Speaker 1: this one is it for me. I call this one
29:07
Speaker 1: they want to take me with them. This occurred in
29:10
Speaker 1: autumn of nineteen seventy seven, one late afternoon early evening
29:15
Speaker 1: in Sussex, England. It is technically a single witness case,
29:20
Speaker 1: though the witness had prior encounters with other witnesses, so
29:25
Speaker 1: I guess you could call it a multiple witness case.
29:28
Speaker 1: But it is so unusual. This one intimates humanoids being involved,
29:34
Speaker 1: even though the witness didn't actually see them. But let's
29:37
Speaker 1: just get to it. This very unusual case comes from
29:40
Speaker 1: researcher Patricia B. Grant, who published it in an article
29:44
Speaker 1: in the April nineteen seventy nine issue of Flying Saucer
29:47
Speaker 1: Review titled quote A very personal encounter somewhere in Sussex.
29:54
Speaker 1: The witness is known only by her first name, Denise.
29:57
Speaker 1: She's a nurse who served in the British military, and
30:00
Speaker 1: particularly relevant here, she was trained in aircraft recognition. It
30:06
Speaker 1: was five twenty p m. One evening in the fall
30:08
Speaker 1: of nineteen seventy seven that Denise stood at a bus
30:12
Speaker 1: station in Sussex waiting for the bus to arrive. She
30:16
Speaker 1: had just lit a cigarette when looking up, she saw
30:20
Speaker 1: a dark, oval shaped object that appeared to her as
30:23
Speaker 1: if it had just risen from the grounds of a
30:26
Speaker 1: nearby abandoned camp site. The object was an estimated two
30:30
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty feet away and about three hundred feet
30:33
Speaker 1: in altitude. Denise says that she felt quote extremely amazed
30:38
Speaker 1: that there was absolutely no engine noise at all. She said,
30:42
Speaker 1: the object moved very quickly and with amazing maneuverability. It
30:47
Speaker 1: seemed to reflect in the setting sun. And unable to
30:50
Speaker 1: identify the craft, Denise kind of on an impulse, set
30:54
Speaker 1: out a mental message to the presumed occupants of the craft, thinking,
30:59
Speaker 1: come down here and let me get a good look
31:01
Speaker 1: at you now. Immediately, as if in response, the craft
31:05
Speaker 1: changed course and began to move in her direction, and
31:09
Speaker 1: she watched in amazement as this craft came closer and
31:13
Speaker 1: remained in view for at least ten minutes. In fact,
31:16
Speaker 1: it got close enough for her to get a very
31:18
Speaker 1: good look at it. As she says, the black oblong
31:22
Speaker 1: shape appeared to decrease in length, and the sun's reflection
31:26
Speaker 1: showed me it had a type of dome on top
31:28
Speaker 1: and was oval underneath. She could now see that its
31:31
Speaker 1: surface was a gray metal with a sort of greenish tint.
31:35
Speaker 1: There was a green blue light on top. The object
31:38
Speaker 1: revolved slowly in a clockwise direction, hovering over a building
31:42
Speaker 1: no more than fifty feet away. As it hung there,
31:46
Speaker 1: the niece had the strange feeling of being surrounded by
31:49
Speaker 1: what she called quote an invisible ray. What she felt
31:52
Speaker 1: was coming from underneath the craft. As she says, I
31:56
Speaker 1: know it sounds silly, but I felt as though I
31:59
Speaker 1: was being washed now. Suddenly, Denise found herself being startled
32:04
Speaker 1: out of her reverie and saw that the bus she
32:07
Speaker 1: was waiting for was now idling in front of her
32:09
Speaker 1: with its door open. This surprised her, and she could
32:13
Speaker 1: normally hear the bus one or two minutes before it
32:15
Speaker 1: was even in view. She now realized that the cigarette
32:19
Speaker 1: in her hand was now completely spent. As she tried
32:22
Speaker 1: to get the coins to pay the bus driver, she
32:25
Speaker 1: noticed something strange. Her fingers were weirdly numb, stiff, and uncoordinated.
32:31
Speaker 1: In fact, her whole body seemed to have been affected.
32:34
Speaker 1: As she found herself stumbling to get off to the bus,
32:37
Speaker 1: the craft was still in view. There was only one
32:40
Speaker 1: other person on the bus besides the driver, and Denise
32:43
Speaker 1: did not alert either of them to the presence of
32:46
Speaker 1: the craft. As the bus drove off, Denise noticed that
32:49
Speaker 1: she now had an acute headache, one which would persist
32:53
Speaker 1: until the next morning. She ended up arriving fifteen minutes
32:57
Speaker 1: late for work, nervous, shaky, and clumb So this meant
33:01
Speaker 1: that the bus must have been quite late, that the
33:04
Speaker 1: entire UFO sighting must have lasted for thirty five minutes.
33:08
Speaker 1: Yet Denise feels certain that she did not view it
33:11
Speaker 1: for more than fifteen minutes. In other words, there appears
33:15
Speaker 1: to be about twenty minutes of time that she does
33:18
Speaker 1: not recall. As Denise says, I was very thirsty after
33:23
Speaker 1: the sighting. I downed at least a pint of lemonade
33:26
Speaker 1: as soon as I had the chance, but I remember
33:29
Speaker 1: feeling queasy also. I was thirsty all evening. I felt unsafe,
33:34
Speaker 1: and I longed to get home to security. But when
33:37
Speaker 1: I eventually did get home, I still felt the same way.
33:41
Speaker 1: I remember my heart racing, So the next day Denise
33:45
Speaker 1: developed still more symptoms. Her eyes burned and watered for
33:49
Speaker 1: a full week, and she was eventually diagnosed with conjunctivitis.
33:54
Speaker 1: Her vision became poor, she had gastric disturbances, her movements
33:58
Speaker 1: continued to be clumsy. She had low energy and troubled sleeping.
34:03
Speaker 1: One of the most interesting after effects was a clear
34:06
Speaker 1: and vivid, repetitive dream that seems to indicate perhaps much
34:11
Speaker 1: deeper levels of contact. As Denise says, the dream I
34:15
Speaker 1: have never varies. I frequently dreamed the occurrence exactly as
34:20
Speaker 1: it happened. I see the UFO very clearly. It travels
34:24
Speaker 1: across the sky and then turns towards me, exactly as
34:27
Speaker 1: the event occurred. Now, up to this point the dream
34:31
Speaker 1: is exactly as she remembers her sighting. But then instead
34:34
Speaker 1: of just flying off, the dream describes something else happening
34:39
Speaker 1: that she does not consciously remember. As Denise says, then
34:44
Speaker 1: I have telepathic conversation with the occupants. They are curious
34:48
Speaker 1: about me and want to speak with me. They are
34:51
Speaker 1: pleased that I am not performing in the usual manner
34:54
Speaker 1: of observed subjects. I am not at all frightened and
34:57
Speaker 1: feel very pleased at their appearance. They say they know
35:01
Speaker 1: me and they want to take me with them. I
35:04
Speaker 1: am very happy with the idea, but then I remember
35:07
Speaker 1: my family and my husband. I say I would miss
35:09
Speaker 1: my family and want them to come with me to
35:12
Speaker 1: see whatever I will see in my travels with them
35:14
Speaker 1: to their home planet. They argue with me, they want
35:18
Speaker 1: only me. We reach Dedlock and they say that they
35:22
Speaker 1: will come again to see me and see if I
35:24
Speaker 1: wish to go alone with them. They sadly say good bye.
35:29
Speaker 1: I also say good bye. I am very very sad
35:32
Speaker 1: at their going. I never actually see them in person,
35:36
Speaker 1: but I feel I know them well, but had forgotten
35:38
Speaker 1: about them while I was here on Earth. I seem
35:41
Speaker 1: to know subconsciously that I will never come back to
35:44
Speaker 1: Earth once I go with them, also that I will
35:47
Speaker 1: not want to return now. Perhaps relevant here is that
35:51
Speaker 1: eight or nine years earlier, one night in nineteen sixty
35:54
Speaker 1: eight or nineteen sixty nine, Denise and her husband drove
35:58
Speaker 1: through Ashdown Forest and said that they were paced in
36:01
Speaker 1: their vehicle by a strange craft for at least thirty minutes.
36:05
Speaker 1: It followed them to their home. As Denise says, we
36:09
Speaker 1: were both very frightened and were extremely glad to turn
36:12
Speaker 1: up the lane to our home. We did not stop
36:15
Speaker 1: to look to see if it was around, and we
36:18
Speaker 1: went indoors very quickly. Now it was around this time
36:22
Speaker 1: that they had two other sightings, and some other strange
36:25
Speaker 1: events occurred. While Denise's case was being researched by Patricia Grant.
36:31
Speaker 1: Both Denise and Patricia had frequent problems with letters which
36:35
Speaker 1: they were mailing to each other. They would arrive ripped
36:38
Speaker 1: in half or stuck on their front door, not where
36:41
Speaker 1: they should be. Also, Denise reported a strange prowler looking
36:46
Speaker 1: in the window of her house. She let the dog out,
36:49
Speaker 1: but uncharacteristically, the dog ran inside, cowered, and growled instead
36:55
Speaker 1: of going after the intruder as he normally would have.
36:58
Speaker 1: Denise did consider him gnosis to recall the missing time,
37:02
Speaker 1: but so far has not followed through with this. But
37:05
Speaker 1: one final strange and permanent after effect of the encounter,
37:09
Speaker 1: As Patricia the researcher writes, one permanent personality change did occur.
37:16
Speaker 1: She Denise confesses to having had a strong temper before
37:20
Speaker 1: this event, but now she seldom becomes upset or angry.
37:25
Speaker 1: This one certainly sounds like it could be a onboard encounter,
37:29
Speaker 1: given that the witness did have missing time had these
37:33
Speaker 1: dreams where she was conversing with an et. Hard to
37:37
Speaker 1: say for sure, because sometimes simple sightings do involve telepathic
37:42
Speaker 1: elements as well as amnesia. That's not at all unusual.
37:48
Speaker 1: People can forget about a simple sighting and then later
37:51
Speaker 1: remember it. Of course, she didn't forget about it, But
37:54
Speaker 1: these dreams are I think, quite revealing. What's really remarkable
37:58
Speaker 1: is how profoundly this this witness was affected, not only
38:02
Speaker 1: physically but emotionally, not getting angry anymore and spiritually apparently
38:07
Speaker 1: having this kind of conversation with these apparent humanoids. It's
38:12
Speaker 1: a tremendous case and just really fascinating to me. All right, now,
38:17
Speaker 1: let's get to our last and final case in this compilation.
38:22
Speaker 1: This one is an amazing case, which I call a
38:25
Speaker 1: spectacular and extraordinary thing. This one occurred on June fifth,
38:31
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, in the small town of Varzi, Italy.
38:36
Speaker 1: This is a multiple witness case. It's incredibly well authenticated,
38:40
Speaker 1: and it's very unusual and definitely an important addition to
38:45
Speaker 1: the whole catalog of UFO encounters. This final case was
38:50
Speaker 1: researched by investigators from the Italian National Euthological Center, primarily
38:56
Speaker 1: Antonio Schiumento. Was published first in their publication not Tizario
39:02
Speaker 1: UFO in the September October nineteen eighty three issue, and
39:06
Speaker 1: later in the International UFO Journal, the November December nineteen
39:10
Speaker 1: eighty four issue, the Flying Saucer Review Volume thirty, number six,
39:14
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five, and finally in the French magazine Numier
39:18
Speaker 1: don la Nuit November December nineteen eighty five issue. It's
39:23
Speaker 1: a complicated, unusual multiple witness case which took place on
39:28
Speaker 1: June fifth, nineteen eighty three, in the Steffora Valley in
39:32
Speaker 1: the small and stunningly beautiful town of Varzi, Italy. The
39:36
Speaker 1: primary witness is farmer Mario Clareto. He's fifty six years
39:40
Speaker 1: old at the time of his encounter. It was five
39:43
Speaker 1: point fifty a m. On June five, nineteen eighty three
39:48
Speaker 1: when Mario was awakened by the dogs outside. They were
39:51
Speaker 1: barking furiously, so he arose from bed and looked out
39:55
Speaker 1: the window, and to his surprise, he saw metallic, shiny
39:59
Speaker 1: craft just over five hundred feet away from his house.
40:02
Speaker 1: Beyond the Alfalfa fields, was sitting on the ground only
40:06
Speaker 1: about thirty five to forty feet away from the road,
40:10
Speaker 1: was flat on the bottoms and near as he could tell,
40:12
Speaker 1: dome shaped on top, with an orange light at the
40:15
Speaker 1: apex of the dome, and it appeared to be slowly
40:18
Speaker 1: rotating counterclockwise. The object with silver except for a small
40:23
Speaker 1: black sex amazed and uncomprehending at what he was seeing,
40:27
Speaker 1: he woke up his wife, Vilia. She looked at it
40:30
Speaker 1: very briefly and remarked that it was silver like tinfoil,
40:33
Speaker 1: and seeing the orange light, she wondered if it might
40:35
Speaker 1: be a reflection from the morning sun, but Mario pointed
40:39
Speaker 1: out that the sun had not quite yet risen over
40:41
Speaker 1: the hills. Vilia was unimpressed at first and just went
40:45
Speaker 1: back to bed. And, as Mario says, was like an
40:49
Speaker 1: egg shaped object hovering about fifty centimeters from the ground.
40:53
Speaker 1: From its rotating top went out a strange yellow reddish
40:57
Speaker 1: light that was intermittent. My wife and she also cited
41:01
Speaker 1: the strange thing. Then I noticed that our neighbor Bruno Stafforini,
41:07
Speaker 1: was also observing the thing near the metallica enclosure of
41:10
Speaker 1: his courtyard. Knowing that they had guests later that day
41:14
Speaker 1: and that he had food to prepare, Mario went down
41:17
Speaker 1: to the kitchen to begin working, all at the same
41:19
Speaker 1: time looking at this strange craft in his fields. Finally,
41:24
Speaker 1: curiosity began to get the better of him. He did
41:26
Speaker 1: have a heart condition, so he moved slowly from the
41:29
Speaker 1: house and started to walk towards it. And as he
41:32
Speaker 1: did so, he saw a man moving very swiftly and
41:36
Speaker 1: deftly through the fields towards the craft. This man was
41:40
Speaker 1: wearing a blue shirt with vertical white stripes, and the
41:43
Speaker 1: man walked right up to the object, only a few
41:46
Speaker 1: feet away, and seemed to disappear. Moments later, this man
41:50
Speaker 1: reappeared and was now running like a madman in a
41:53
Speaker 1: headlong flight away from the object. He ran down the
41:57
Speaker 1: road and disappeared off into the distance. Meanwhile, Mario's neighbor,
42:02
Speaker 1: Brunos Stafforini, was also looking at this strange craft. As
42:06
Speaker 1: Bruno says, I was in bed and heard the dog's barking,
42:10
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a wild boar hanging around
42:12
Speaker 1: near by. This had happened once before. I went down
42:16
Speaker 1: into the courtyard. Well, now, the dog that was on
42:19
Speaker 1: the chain was barking so fiercely that he had almost
42:22
Speaker 1: torn himself loose. He seemed to be rabid, while the
42:26
Speaker 1: other dog, which I always leave loose, kept dashing out
42:29
Speaker 1: in the direction of the hill opposite our house, and
42:32
Speaker 1: then stopping at one certain spot, barking furiously and turning
42:36
Speaker 1: around and coming straight back to near my feet. And
42:39
Speaker 1: he did this several times. So at this point Bruno's
42:43
Speaker 1: neighbor Mario, spoke out and alerted him to look towards
42:47
Speaker 1: the field where there was quote something abnormal sitting on
42:51
Speaker 1: the ground. And as Bruno says to me, it looked
42:54
Speaker 1: like a piece of tinfoil, glittering and moving to and fro,
42:58
Speaker 1: and so frightening the dogs. How could I imagine that
43:02
Speaker 1: later I would see a flying object rise up from
43:04
Speaker 1: that spot. Never then, Mario called my attention to a tall,
43:09
Speaker 1: thin individual who was running like a madman towards the highway.
43:13
Speaker 1: So Mario himself was keeping a close eye on the
43:15
Speaker 1: object as he, along with his neighbor Bruno, watched this
43:19
Speaker 1: man run away, and Mario thought to himself, I bet
43:23
Speaker 1: it's now going to take off, And of course that's
43:26
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. As Mario says that machine rose up
43:31
Speaker 1: slow a few seconds after that Chap's frantic escape. In fact,
43:36
Speaker 1: I thought maybe they had ignited a gas or something
43:39
Speaker 1: of that sort to make the man leave, and this
43:42
Speaker 1: was what had terrified him. But this is, of course
43:45
Speaker 1: just my theory. So now I was able to see
43:49
Speaker 1: the lower part of the object, which the tall alfalfa
43:52
Speaker 1: had prevented me from seeing. The underpart was indeed flat,
43:57
Speaker 1: but shaped like a slightly upturned dish or silver tinfoil
44:01
Speaker 1: colored spinning top. I wasn't the least bit frightened. I
44:05
Speaker 1: enjoyed a beautiful spectacle. When that machine rose up, it
44:10
Speaker 1: looked just like a flying saucer. The machine did not
44:13
Speaker 1: rise vertically, but covered some meters, grazing the ground. At
44:16
Speaker 1: a height of about two meters, a vapor or smoke
44:20
Speaker 1: came out. It seemed almost to be a powder brown
44:23
Speaker 1: or brick colored, all this without any sound. When the
44:27
Speaker 1: object had gained height, it looked just like a pair
44:30
Speaker 1: without its stalk, and of a color resembling dark brown.
44:35
Speaker 1: I followed it with my eyes until it was just
44:37
Speaker 1: a dot in the completely clear sky. So Bruno saw
44:41
Speaker 1: this too. As Bruno says, my neighbor shouted, look, Bruno,
44:45
Speaker 1: look it's taking off, And so I saw it too.
44:49
Speaker 1: Now Mario's wife, Vilia heard her husband shouting out that
44:53
Speaker 1: the object was taking off, so she went outside to see, and,
44:57
Speaker 1: as Vilia says, I too was able to see this
45:01
Speaker 1: round thing, stationary at first, and then moving. What a
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Speaker 1: sensation I felt, What a beautiful thing, What colors? Before
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Speaker 1: I die? Anyway, I've seen something that I had never
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Speaker 1: believed in when I heard folk talking about such things.
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Speaker 1: Having once seen such an object, I can never say
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Speaker 1: again that I don't believe those things we call flying
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Speaker 1: saucers or UFOs. Now again, Mario had a heart condition
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Speaker 1: was therefore reluctant to hike up to the area where
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Speaker 1: the saucer had sat, but he did alert his son
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Speaker 1: in law, who had been sleeping at the time of
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Speaker 1: the encounter. The son in law was understandably angry that
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Speaker 1: they had not awakened him to see it, but he
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Speaker 1: immediately hiked up to the spot and could see that
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Speaker 1: the alfalfa was bent down but not flattened, in a
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Speaker 1: three meter wide circle, and all around this area was
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Speaker 1: something that looked like ash was. Two days after the
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Speaker 1: incident that mister Tonari, who on the field where the
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Speaker 1: object had landed, was puzzled when he said a car
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Speaker 1: parked near his field and two individuals came out and
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Speaker 1: examined the site. As he says, two individuals in white
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Speaker 1: overalls got out of it and took readings with some
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Speaker 1: strange instruments pointed towards the spot where the mysterious object
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Speaker 1: had touched down. As soon as I got near them,
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Speaker 1: they departed in haste without saying a word. Now there
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Speaker 1: was another possible after effect. A few days after the encounter.
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Speaker 1: Mario and Vilia Cleretto say that they found that their
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Speaker 1: broody hen had died under mysterious circumstances, and they also
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Speaker 1: found out that one of their neighbors also had two
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Speaker 1: hens die quote without any apparent reason. Now, this case
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Speaker 1: was thoroughly investigated, not only by researchers, but by the police,
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Speaker 1: who found no evidence of a hoax. Following the event
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Speaker 1: and in amazing corroboration, there was a rash of sightings
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Speaker 1: in Italy with hundreds of witnesses. But as Mario and
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Speaker 1: Velias say, that morning has changed our entire lives. Before
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Speaker 1: that we didn't believe in those machines are flying saucers
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Speaker 1: called UFOs, nor after it. Do we now believe, we
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Speaker 1: don't believe, We now know that they exist. I love
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Speaker 1: the UFO landing cases. There's really no chance of misidentification
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Speaker 1: or misperception because these craft are not an anomalous light
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Speaker 1: up in the sky. This case, of course, involves landing
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Speaker 1: traces and animal effects. What's really unusual to me about
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Speaker 1: it is the fact that the witnesses saw somebody walk
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Speaker 1: up to it and run away. Makes me wonder if
47:41
Speaker 1: there's more to this encounter than we're seeing. Would love
47:45
Speaker 1: to hear what this other witness that the two main
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Speaker 1: witnesses has to say, but unfortunately he was never located.
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Speaker 1: What's really interesting to me also is that this case
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Speaker 1: is authenticated or corroborated, I should say, by the fact
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Speaker 1: that the next day there was a massive way over Italy.
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Speaker 1: So an amazing case on so many levels. So that's it.
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Speaker 1: Six close encomors of the second kind, each affecting the
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Speaker 1: witness or the environment in some way. And as you
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Speaker 1: can see, yes, these cases are important because they have
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Speaker 1: a lot to teach us, and they provide physical evidence
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Speaker 1: of some form at least it's always funny to me
48:29
Speaker 1: when people say, oh, there's no evidence for UFOs, they
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Speaker 1: simply haven't done their homework. Another thing I hear is just, oh,
48:36
Speaker 1: trust me, bro, it's all anecdotal. Well, obviously it's not.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes people will tell me something like photograph or it
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Speaker 1: didn't happen. Oh really, Well, let's say there's a bear
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Speaker 1: behind you and I'm warning you about a bear, and
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Speaker 1: you say photo or didn't happen, and then you get
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Speaker 1: mauled by the bear. Well there you go. That's kind
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Speaker 1: of strange analogy, I know. But the point is just
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Speaker 1: because someone doesn't have a photograph of their encounter doesn't
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Speaker 1: mean it didn't happen. To me, the best evidence for
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Speaker 1: UFOs is the huge number of cases coming from people
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Speaker 1: all over the world, occurring decade after decade, cases with
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Speaker 1: extraordinary consistency in detail that virtually excludes any possibility of
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Speaker 1: explanations of hoaxes, hallucinations, misperceptions, mental illness, imagination, and so forth.
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Speaker 1: There's no doubt that we are being visited, and you
49:38
Speaker 1: can make up your own mind about what it all means.
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Speaker 1: But to deny the reality of the UFO phenomena is
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Speaker 1: absolute nonsense. We know something is going on. So that's
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Speaker 1: it for today. Thanks guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode,
49:54
Speaker 1: perhaps learned something. I truly appreciate you watching. If you
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Speaker 1: have any ideas for future episodes, do let me know.
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Speaker 1: And until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep
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Speaker 1: searching for the truth most important of all, keep having fun,
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Speaker 1: and I'll see you next time. I hope for another
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Speaker 1: episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. Have a great weekend.