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Joey Logano On Being Coined as “Sliced Bread” & The Pressure Of Being A Childhood Prodigy · Bussin' With The Boys

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I feel like that went good. Ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of Racing with the Boys. We
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  Speaker 1: have Joey Logano on. Phenomenal interview. And I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: and let's go racing. Now, to Joey Logano.
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  Speaker 2: Let's kick it off.
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  Speaker 3: Well, shall we, ladies and gentlemen? Mitchie, once I get
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  Speaker 3: the point for you, I'll know that we're going. Ladies
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  Speaker 3: and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Racing With The Boys.
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  Speaker 3: Our guest today is an individual who won a championship
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  Speaker 3: in 2018, 2022, and 2024. This individual actually hates odd numbers.
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  Speaker 3: He's loved to be hated by some of the fan base,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the stuff that absolutely fuels him. This man
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mind. a little altercation when it comes to getting
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  Speaker 3: out of a race.
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  Speaker 2: He doesn't mind.
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  Speaker 3: Mixing it up with the boys a little bit. An
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  Speaker 3: individual is an absolute legend. Give it up for Joey Logano.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. Thank you guys. He doesn't mind getting into a tussle.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't mind just absolutely shaking it up with the
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  Speaker 3: boys a little bit. We were reading, you've had a
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  Speaker 3: couple of legendary shakeups.
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  Speaker 2: I have. A couple of legends.
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  Speaker 3: Is there one that comes to mind that you're like,
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  Speaker 3: hell yeah, that was a hundred percent worth it?
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  Speaker 2: Um, Gosh, you know, in the moment, they're all worth it.
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  Speaker 2: And then later on, you sometimes wonder, especially like I
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  Speaker 2: got kids now. I got five kids. Five?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We'll unpack that in a second. And they're like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to teach you about something called contraceptives. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get into that in a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little like, yeah, do as I say, not
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  Speaker 2: as I do situation. And the bad part is it
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  Speaker 2: all lives on YouTube, right? So like it just, it
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  Speaker 2: never goes away. Yeah. You know, so the dumb things
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  Speaker 2: you did when you were a teenager or early 20s
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  Speaker 2: is now, there for life. Um, but yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's racing, right? I mean, it's part of it. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: you get some altercations. You don't see eye to eye
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  Speaker 2: on things and sometimes things escalate a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: than they probably should. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And do you have an alter ego?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, maybe I'd say when I get in a race car,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you guys are the same way when you play,
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  Speaker 2: when you play football, like you put your helmet on
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  Speaker 2: and you, you kind of switch gears. Like you can be,
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  Speaker 2: I think a normal person joke around, have fun. you know,
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  Speaker 2: be lighthearted normally. But I think when it's game time,
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  Speaker 2: it's game time. Like you're out for blood at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Like get out of the way. Like I am here
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  Speaker 2: to win and I have to do what I have
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  Speaker 2: to do to try to win. So I, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's just part of being competitive. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty normal. I think.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have like a, you call yourself anything?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Like me, I like in my head, I was comp nasty.
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  Speaker 2: You were calm nasty? You said that to yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Teammates called me that in college and I just, I've
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  Speaker 1: always kind of- And.
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  Speaker 2: So you kind of went with it?
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  Speaker 3: As soon as you got the nickname, you're like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to roll with that.
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  Speaker 2: Calm nasty. So you were calm like all the time?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was- Calm, but nasty. Yeah, we'll, you know- Calm,
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  Speaker 1: not calm. We'll calm during the- Oh, okay. You know,
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  Speaker 1: during regular life, but then when the helmet came on,
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  Speaker 1: it was calm nasty.
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  Speaker 2: Nasty. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I like it. Or really be the gorilla.
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  Speaker 2: I like it.
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  Speaker 1: That's what my dad called me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: The gorilla.
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  Speaker 1: It's depending on how I was feeling. It's like put
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  Speaker 1: the women and children in the bed. It's time to
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  Speaker 1: go die on this football field.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was always Saturdays or Sundays, whether you're in
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  Speaker 3: college or NFL. The thought process was always like, if
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  Speaker 3: I die today, we're in a good spot. This is
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  Speaker 3: a great day to end it all.
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  Speaker 2: That's what you get.
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  Speaker 3: That's the brainwashing that takes place when you're in football, man.
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  Speaker 3: Did you have any nicknames growing up or anything like that?
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  Speaker 2: I did. I've been called a lot of things now,
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  Speaker 2: but sliced bread was the joke. And like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as a kid, like that's like everyone had their little
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  Speaker 2: nicknames growing up. Mine just stuck with me and it
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  Speaker 2: never really went away. It's the next best thing, right?
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  Speaker 2: That was cause, so when I was growing up racing,
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  Speaker 2: I was supposed to be like the next, like Jeff Gordon,
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  Speaker 2: like I was supposed to be the dog. And, and
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  Speaker 2: my career kind of went down before it went up. Right.
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  Speaker 2: As a child, I was coined as the next best
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  Speaker 2: thing since sliced bread and the sliced bread thing kind
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  Speaker 2: of went for a while and it never really went away.
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  Speaker 3: As a child and you're hearing like the nickname sliced bread,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's like, this is the next one. Like, what does
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  Speaker 3: that pressure feel like? How old are you when you
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  Speaker 3: first get that nickname?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like. 13, 14 years old.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you're going through testosterone. You're starting to get
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  Speaker 3: hair in unfamiliar places. You're not knowing what's what and
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  Speaker 3: what's going on.
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  Speaker 2: I drank the Kool-Aid. Yeah, you drank the Kool-Aid. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: As you should. Well, a lot of lessons learned on
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing, right?
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  Speaker 1: But I did.
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  Speaker 2: And there's enough people telling you that you're great. Eventually,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to start believing that. And for me, my
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  Speaker 2: career was the youngest to do about everything, right? I
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  Speaker 2: was always... bump in my age, like just to get
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  Speaker 2: into the next league. Um, shoot, I had a fake
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  Speaker 2: burst of fear for a little bit that allowed me
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  Speaker 2: to go racing before I got busted, but I raced
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  Speaker 2: above like where I should have been for a while.
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  Speaker 2: And so all this hype just kind of kept following
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  Speaker 2: me all the way until, you know, I'd signed to
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  Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs racing when I was 15 to go race
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  Speaker 2: there and jumped right into now the O'Reilly series, um,
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  Speaker 2: and was able to win my third race. So like,
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  Speaker 2: it was all like coming to, There's even a commercial
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  Speaker 2: NASCAR put out about me moving to the cup level.
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  Speaker 2: Like it was just about me. And so I believed
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  Speaker 2: all of it. Now I finally got to the cup level,
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  Speaker 2: which is the dogs, right? The best of the best.
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  Speaker 2: And I got my butt kicked for three years straight,
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  Speaker 2: lost my job, like was out, was 21 years old, wondering, oh,
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  Speaker 2: this is all I ever did my whole life. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a backup plan. All the eggs were in racing.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's no other basket. And, and then just really
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  Speaker 2: by the grace of God, the 22 car opened up
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  Speaker 2: back in, you know, what was that? What year was that? Shoot,
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  Speaker 2: I remember what year, 15, 16 years ago, or I know,
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  Speaker 2: I guess it was like 14 years ago. The car
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  Speaker 2: opened up and I've been in the same car driving
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  Speaker 2: for Ford, driving for Shell for that long now. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just really been the same ever since. I've just
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  Speaker 2: been lucky to have a second chance, right? And once
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  Speaker 2: you go into something, you're already, You've made the mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: You've learned who you are. You learned where to be better.
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  Speaker 2: And you can start with a fresh start and a
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  Speaker 2: new team. Gosh, that was exactly what I needed. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know I needed it. Right. Because at the time
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  Speaker 2: I thought, oh, my gosh, my career is over. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But then everything kind of turned around just where it
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  Speaker 2: needed to.
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  Speaker 1: How was that for you mentally being on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being put on such a pedestal and then getting your
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  Speaker 1: ass whipped for three years? And like you're saying, you
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  Speaker 1: think your career is over. How was that for you
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  Speaker 1: mentally as you're trying to get back into it?
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  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, it's one thing if you're an underdog. right?
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  Speaker 2: If you're the underdog and you get your butt kicked,
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  Speaker 2: you're kind of like, well, I wasn't supposed to win anyways.
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  Speaker 2: But when you're the favorite going into whether it's a
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  Speaker 2: game or your career, like you're the prodigy, whatever it
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  Speaker 2: may be, you're the expectation is so high that you
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  Speaker 2: feel like you have let down everybody, right? Like not
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  Speaker 2: just yourself or your parents or like your team itself,
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  Speaker 2: your sponsors, like your fans, everyone's looking at you like
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  Speaker 2: you were supposed to be something and you were the
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  Speaker 2: best thing that never happened, right? And that's the worst feeling.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there's feelings worse than that, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but because in the grand scheme of things, you're driving
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  Speaker 2: a race car.
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  Speaker 3: You put yourself on this pedestal, you don't meet the mark.
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  Speaker 3: And then that feeling that comes with it.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, who's the fingers pointed at? There's only one
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  Speaker 2: person to point the finger at, is me. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is just super challenging to go through that. But you,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, you get a second chance. Not very
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  Speaker 2: often you get a second chance like I got, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like it really, honestly, the car opened up by chance.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't supposed to be there. They were in a bind.
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  Speaker 2: Team Penske was, and they needed someone that was not
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  Speaker 2: going to do things that were like, I didn't go out,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't go drink. I was focused on racing. That's
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  Speaker 2: all I did. And so it was very safe for
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  Speaker 2: them to have me and the team needed to grow.
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  Speaker 2: I needed to grow at the same rate. It's not
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  Speaker 2: like When I started at Gibbs, I jumped in the
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  Speaker 2: 20 car. It was Tony Stewart's ride. They won two championships.
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  Speaker 2: They knew exactly how to do it. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: just a plug into that as a 19 year old.
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  Speaker 2: And it just didn't work. Like it just didn't mesh.
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  Speaker 2: This was a team that, boy, they were pretty new, fresh,
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  Speaker 2: young team. I was young. I needed something that has
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  Speaker 2: that security and it just grew together. And it's just
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  Speaker 2: been more natural that way.
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  Speaker 3: What about jumping into Stewart's old car and it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: plug and play. You're supposed to be the next thing.
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  Speaker 3: Like what didn't go well for you in those first
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  Speaker 3: three years?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, on paper, on paper, it was perfect. Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like my whole trajectory of my career, I moved up,
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  Speaker 2: got one immediately in the O'Reilly series. And at the time,
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  Speaker 2: you were the youngest, right?
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  Speaker 1: I was the youngest.
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  Speaker 2: This is sliced bread category. Yeah, I was doing it.
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  Speaker 1: 18 years old.
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  Speaker 2: And then Tony Stewart went to start his own race team.
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  Speaker 2: So my whole plan was to run a full year
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  Speaker 2: of O'Reilly racing before I moved up. Well, I ran
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  Speaker 2: eight races. and they're like, well, Tony's moving on. The
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  Speaker 2: 20 cars opened up. We're going to put you in it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I'm ready. I'm kicking butt already
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  Speaker 2: in the one series down, like one level down. I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be great. Yeah. Put me in. I'll be great.
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  Speaker 2: And I didn't realize I sucked. Like I didn't realize
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  Speaker 2: everybody was so good. And for one, I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: how to lose. I never lost as a kid growing up.
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  Speaker 2: I just could show up and win. So I didn't
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  Speaker 2: have to work hard. That was the number one thing.
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  Speaker 2: It was a blessing and a curse because I was
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  Speaker 2: on one hand had so much natural talent and was
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  Speaker 2: able to be in the car so much. It was
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  Speaker 2: enough to get me there. but it didn't teach me
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  Speaker 2: the mental side of sports that I needed, right? The
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  Speaker 2: mental toughness that you need to be successful in sports
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  Speaker 2: and how to deal with that type of pressure and
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  Speaker 2: deal with the loss, right? And how to get over it,
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  Speaker 2: move on, like learn from it, move on quickly. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know how to do all that. So it took
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  Speaker 2: me a couple of years to, for one, understand that
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  Speaker 2: it's not the car, it's me, right? Like, and then
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  Speaker 2: starting to understand, okay, where is my weaknesses? And how
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  Speaker 2: do you build up any confidence, right? Like if you
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  Speaker 2: get your butt kicked weekly, you start to show up
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  Speaker 2: to the racetrack thinking, okay, how am I going to
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  Speaker 2: get beat today? Right? Not how am I going to
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  Speaker 2: win today?
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  Speaker 3: The mental warfare that takes place between the ears.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. It's big time. It's tough, but, and it's a
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  Speaker 2: slow growth to get to, you can't, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how to do it. Maybe you guys can, but I
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  Speaker 2: can't fake that in my mind, right? Like I can't
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  Speaker 2: lie to myself. And like, oh, I'm going to, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to win today. Well, you finished 30 at the
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  Speaker 2: last three weeks, you know, like what makes you think
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  Speaker 2: you're going to win? Like, it's hard to believe that,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a slow growth to get to that point.
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  Speaker 2: I believe. No doubt.
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  Speaker 3: The delusion is, is very important. What, like when you
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  Speaker 3: look at football, it's like the things you can't teach
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  Speaker 3: is like high weight, speed, athletic ability, things that guys
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  Speaker 3: are just clearly born with. Like I'm tall, I was athletic.
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  Speaker 3: So I was, I had had a step to be like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: if I do X, Y, and Z, I could probably
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  Speaker 3: make it to the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: As a racer and a casual viewer, it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: we're pressing a pedal. I don't know the intricate details
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  Speaker 3: of how to operate a car with the bubble and
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  Speaker 3: the vortex and we've got the bumpers to the bumpers
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  Speaker 3: and making the moves.
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  Speaker 1: Atta boy, we've learned a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: We've operated a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: What are the intangibles as a driver that made you
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  Speaker 3: slice bread? Everyone was like, this kid is the truth.
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  Speaker 3: He is winning every single time. What are the intangibles
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  Speaker 3: of NASCAR for a driver?
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  Speaker 2: For a driver to have? I mean, there's a natural
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  Speaker 2: speed part, right? Yeah. physically you don't, it's not like
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  Speaker 2: other sports where you size matters, right? Like physically size
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  Speaker 2: doesn't matter a whole bunch when you're driving a race car, right?
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  Speaker 2: And you look at, I mean, some guys are tall, some,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, with Kyle Larson, he's a shoe and he's,
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  Speaker 2: Pretty small guy. Hilarious reference for any person in the world.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to graze by calling somebody a shoe.
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  Speaker 2: That is amazing. He's a wheel man.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. He's a driver.
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  Speaker 2: He's pretty dang good, in other words. The size doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a certain amount of God-given ability to
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  Speaker 2: feel the car and be able to adapt quickly and
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  Speaker 2: figure out where speed is. But I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of our sport, to get good at it, it's like
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  Speaker 2: You got to study it. You got to be a
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  Speaker 2: student of the sport. You got to be in the
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  Speaker 2: car a lot. You got to be driving things all
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  Speaker 2: the time, no matter what it is. I think just driving,
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  Speaker 2: just that reputation is important. But nowadays, the little details
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  Speaker 2: is what separates everyone. Because once you get to the top,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's got a lot of talent. There's no one really
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  Speaker 2: standing out from each other. There might be a couple
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  Speaker 2: stand out that are just God-given talent. but you can
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  Speaker 2: beat them by being smarter than them quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: And that's kind of my thing. Like, I feel like, um,
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  Speaker 2: I got a decent amount of speed and decent amount
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  Speaker 2: of talent, but I feel like I can outsmart the
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  Speaker 2: majority of the drivers out there by just knowing what's
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  Speaker 2: coming my way. I've done this for a long time now.
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  Speaker 2: So I got a lot of experience on my side too,
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  Speaker 2: but knowing what, what is coming my way next and
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  Speaker 2: understanding where the car is going to go over a
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  Speaker 2: long run or, Uh, the flow of the race, the
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  Speaker 2: strategy of the race, those types of things. That's where
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  Speaker 2: I can separate myself, right. Or, or the pressure of the,
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  Speaker 2: of the chase coming up here, right. And next week
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  Speaker 2: or two, like knowing all that's coming, that's, that's like
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  Speaker 2: our moment to thrive. Like that's how we've won our
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  Speaker 2: championships in the past. It hasn't been being the fastest car.
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  Speaker 2: We're very rarely the fastest car over a course of time, right?
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: We don't typically win the most races in the season
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: compared to others. But we show up when it matters.
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: We show up when the pressure's on. Our team doesn't
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: crack under that type of pressure. The leadership side from
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: our team, I feel like, is what separates us from
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: the field. That's our strength. That's the strength that we
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: play into. And so this time of the year when
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: the pressure's on, that's when the 22 typically shows up.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: That's got to be a great feeling.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Going back to.
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: When you alluded to the first couple of years, you
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: realized it wasn't the car. It was more yourself. When
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: did you start to have a breakthrough moment where it
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: was this conversation with yourself on you're kind of seeing
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: everything or you're blaming things externally where it all kind
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: of went to shit and then the come up started
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: to happen again for you?
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: When your teammates are kicking your ass. That's really what
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: it is because your teammates have the same cars. They're
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: built from the same shop. They're right next to each
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: other when they're being built. And there may be a
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: little small differences, but you should run close to your teammates. Yeah.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: You know, and at the time my teammates were Kyle
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: Busch and Denny Hamlin, right? Both shoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Both couple of shoes. Couple of shoes. Yeah. And so
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: I had a great benchmark there, but I wasn't even close.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: They were winning. I was finishing 25th. Like it wasn't
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: even in the ball game. And eventually- I got to where,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: you know, I could run with them every now and again.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I won one race here and there. Like
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I eventually started getting close, but it was too little
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: too late.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You know, they already went out there and found another
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: driver to replace me. And right when I started getting decent,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: I was told that I'm out. So I was like, oh,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: it's just, I'm too late. And the options for me
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: at that moment, I remember it was, there was no
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: cup option at Gibbs. So I can run a, at
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: the time it was a bush car right so you
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: can run which is the o'reilly series now um so
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: i can go down a level which gosh once you
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: go down the chances of going back up like you're
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: already a marked man at that point yeah you're probably
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: not going to um i had i had an opportunity
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: to drive for for petty and at the time that
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: was probably the direction i was going to go to
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: stay in the cup level now their cars at the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: time and the cars are pretty good now but at
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: the time their cars weren't super fast so you're like
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: okay i'm gonna get in a lesser car and that's
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: not ideal either but and you're all the whole time
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you're thinking as a child all you want to do
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: is win championships in the cup level like that's all
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: i ever wanted to do and i'm like well i'm
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: taking a step back this isn't maybe it's not even
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: gonna happen and then like i'm telling you the 22
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: car opens up and i'm like oh my god like
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: middle of the year they're in a bind they just
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: lost their driver and and i'm the available guy The
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: only one. Like here, here I am. So there was
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: no competition. By the grace of God, that's the only
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: way it could have happened. This car opens up and
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: there's no, there's not like a list of dudes that
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: are like. There's me and one, there's me and one other.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Who was it? Sam Hornish. Sam Hornish. Sam Hornish drove
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: for Penske, uh, at the time and, um, and raced
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Indy cars, had a relationship with him and all that.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And so, uh, You know, so it was kind of
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: between the two of us. Was there like an interview
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: process that took place? There was. Yeah. Clearly it went well.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: It went well. I met with Roger. I met with
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: the leadership at Shell. And they liked me enough to
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: do it. Okay. I said the right things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: Told them what they wanted to hear in the moment.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I guess. And they took a chance on me. I
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: am so loyal and appreciative to both Shell and and Ford,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Ford was there too. But in, in Roger Penske, like there's,
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: that's my family. Those are my people, right? Like I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: am a very loyal person who was like, if, if
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: you do that for me, you we're in like, we're,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: we're going to do this to the end. And, um,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: it's been a real special time together. Um, you know, the,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the relationship I've built with Roger Penske over, you know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: the last, like I said, almost 15 years to see
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: just the way he operates his business, uh, whether it's
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the racing stuff or what you see, you know, with
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the Penske truck leasing going on the road or car dealerships.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: I just bought a Ford car dealership here recently and
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Roger's been teaching me how to run a dealership, right?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Like those things have been so valuable, right? Or even
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: just seeing what the other race they had around the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Capitol in DC this weekend, right? Like that was Penske
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: entertainment putting that on. That's amazing, you know? So to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: see that they have their hands on that many things
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and you can learn from the absolute best, what else
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: could you ask for? Like I said, like it's how
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: it all happened is just unbelievable how I've gotten to
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: this point. Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: And you talked about how this happened 14 years ago
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: that Penske gives you the opportunity.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: So we're sitting around the 2012. You didn't win your
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: first championship until 2018. What was the relief that took
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: place when you won your first cup series? After everything
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: that's taken place, you're sliced bread, then you're kicked to
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the curb. You know who you are, your whole life
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: you've been racing, but now racing doesn't seem like it's
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: an option for you. You could go back down, but
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: you never could come back up. Now you get an option.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: You get to recreate yourself.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: You get to recreate yourself six years later. So there's
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: a whole lot more time that takes place.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: There was.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: And you win a cup series. How does that feel
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: for you? Like you were right. Like, hey, maybe I am.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Sliced bread. Are we back to being sliced bread now? No,
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: I refuse to ever drink the Kool-Aid again. You don't
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: even eat bread anymore.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: You've been carb-less since 2012.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I refuse to think I'm that good.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That's why I said earlier, like, I don't think I
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: am that talented.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: So, you're not a shoe?
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: No. I mean, I'm somewhat half a shoe. Half a shoe.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: As long as it's the right foot, I'm all right.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: But I refuse to let myself ever go down that
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: path again. Right. Because I feel like it was, like
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I said, a blessing and a curse that got me there,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: but it hurt my career, almost killed my career, right?
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: To where it didn't happen. So, I will never let
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: my head get big again. Like that slice of humble
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: pie is, it is burnt into my mind and it
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: was exactly what I needed, but I don't ever want
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: to be there again.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: Um, so I, that feeling is something I never let
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: myself forget, no matter what kind of success we have
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: on the racetrack. Um, but yeah, I mean, throughout the,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: those years, yeah, there was, there was signs of hope.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: We were starting to win races. We won four or
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: five races consistently a year. We got close to winning championships.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: We came up a little short. but there's no moment
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: like your first championship. There's just, there's nothing like it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Cause at that moment, you've finally proven that you can
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: do it, right? Like there's, there's a lot of, uh,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: you know, you came close, but didn't quite get there,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: but you know, you can win cause you're, you got
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to the, you know, the Superbowl, right? The championship for
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: our final race. Like you got there. That means you're
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: good enough to do it. Well, no, it doesn't mean
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: you can do it until you actually do it. And, and,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: that moment of crossing the start finish line, shoot, I
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: remember like the last five laps I passed Truex for
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the lead. Um, and you know, you just clicking laps off.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I had a pretty good size lead and you just like,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: you start shaking a little bit. Like I remember my, well,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: you're like, you know, you're like, I was nervous. My
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: hands were shaking. My foot was shaking on the gas pedal.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I'm like, geez, like, and you're just waiting for something
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to go wrong. You know, you just get to the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: end of this fricking thing. And when you finally come
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: off four and you see the checkered flag, there is
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: nothing like it. Um, even to this day, right? Like
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: getting married's really special, right? So having kids, really special.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: That's probably a top moment for most people. It's a
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: top moment, but it's a different category.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different. It's different.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But come and run the money and get married. Anybody
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: can get married if you think about it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Most people can have kids. Sure. Not everybody can get
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a checkered flag on time. Well, it's just different categories
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: in life, right? Like all of them are equally as
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: special as where I.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Was going with this.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: That's definitely not where you landed the plane. No, I
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: was going over here.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: We were headed towards B & A and we landed
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: in Atlanta.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know where you're going.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: You guys went there. I was still flying over there.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: We must have parachuted out. You guys took a different
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: route on me.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Being married is great. Kids are great, but college.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Coming around that turn and seeing that checkers climb. Well,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's just a different category. Yeah. And it's just, it was,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: you get out and you, like, it's weird in a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: race car because, you know, you win a football game,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: everybody's right there, right? Your team's right there. You're celebrating
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: immediately together. In a race car, like you're by yourself
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: for a moment of time, right? You win, you're stoked
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and you're like wanting to high five and nobody there,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: you know, like I got nothing. So the moment of
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: crossing the line is special. But when you get out
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: of the car and you see everybody that fought with you,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that's the best. Like that first 10 minutes, is what
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you work for. Like that moment, and it's so hard
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: to replicate, but that is the moment that you work for,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: just for that feeling.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Does it kind of suck how fleeting it is?
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: How like short?
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: 2019, yeah, yeah. 2019, it's like, fuck, we gotta go racing.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: We gotta do it again. Now it doesn't even matter.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: 2018 doesn't even matter anymore.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: You get 10 to 15 minutes of just pure greatness, awesome,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: pure emotion. Can't even put it into words to describe it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: And it's over. And you're like, that's it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But it was amazing.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: And then, but you immediately, you got to have it again.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like somehow you got to get it again.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: You win.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: So how long did it last you? 24 hours of
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: the hype of winning a championship?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's even that, it's not even that long.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: What'd you do that night? Did you cry? I cried
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in victory lane a little bit.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's good. Good cry is awesome. I mean, it's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: happy tears. I mean, it's just amazing. Like You know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: it wasn't necessarily like, I didn't cry by myself, but
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: it was when you saw people, right? Like I saw
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: my wife or I saw my parents and it's like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: because you know the grind that they went through with you, right?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Those are the people that you confide to, right? The
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: people that you, at home after a bad race, they're
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the ones supporting you. So when you see those type
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: of people that were with you in the hardest moments,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: those are the ones that makes you break down a
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: little bit more. You know what I mean? No doubt.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: That's human. That's okay. That's 100% okay. Absolutely. Do you
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: get after it pretty good that night?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Went to bed at 9 p.m. No, that's how we
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: got on the track. It's close to midnight. We drove
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: up to, it was in Miami this year. Well, it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is again this year too, but last year, or 2018
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: it was. So we drove up to Miami. The team
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: was already getting after it by the time I got
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: up there. That's awesome. Yeah. I'm not that crazy when
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: it comes to that stuff.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: The championship, the first championship you won was in 2018.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: The championship this year. Sorry, in 18 was in Miami.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Championship this year is also in Miami.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: You have a habit of hitting those even numbers in
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: this 2026. Started off the season pretty slow. You rattled
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: off a couple wins, I think two of the last four.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: We feel pretty good.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Feel much better than it was.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: And it's the old format, right? 2018, it's the same
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: format as 2018?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: No. That's right. That was actually Will's comment, but.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I was just covering for him right there. Everything else
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: was good before though, because that was my stuff.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Is there a part of you that feels like you
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: got to, you know, not have to get this one,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: but kind of like- I want to get this one
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: so badly because the other ones you won in the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: old playoff format where people kind of, they have their
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: talking points of, yeah, but he was 15th.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Handled the elimination rounds, the best one, the championship match. Like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was he the best driver that year?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: See, like those things, those comments irk me. I mean,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it's like, it gets, I basically just threw it at you.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: People do say that. And like, it happens in all sports, right? There's,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: there could, you can have a mediocre regular season and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you get into playoffs and you get on a hot
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: run and you go win the championship. Like that happens.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It happens in every sport.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: New York Giants, Eli Manning, taking down the undefeated Patriots.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Right. Right. And does that mean they didn't deserve to
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: win the championship?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: No.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: No, they, cause they went and played by the rules.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: They came from behind and they went and won. Yeah.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: They deserve it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: So all, in my opinion, that's how we've always done it. Um, and,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, I'm kind of like, there's
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a bit of a chip on my shoulder. Yeah, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: want to be like, you know what? That's fine. We'll
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: do it this way too. I'll show you. So that
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: is our motivation to go out there and win this
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: thing again. I think we got a good shot at
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it again this year. Cars are getting faster again. I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: don't know if I believe in the whole even year thing,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: but it does seem to be that way. It's kind
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: of fun to believe. This year, I believe it. Next year,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I won't. This year, we'll jump on that bandwagon and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: we'll give it a shot. But I do think from
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: where we were two months ago to where we are now,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: it's like two months ago, we were hoping to make
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: the chase, forget win the championship. Now it's like, okay,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we're in a pretty good spot and we got speed.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: We can see a path to winning this thing. which
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: would be the comeback story of all time. It would
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: be the middle finger to all the haters. Sorry, but
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: that is my motivation a little bit. I love our fans,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: but man, I love rubbing something in somebody's face when
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: you think you can't do it. When someone says you can't,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you're like, watch me.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I need to hear.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: How often do you look at the comments and stuff
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: like that to get that little extra boost of motivation?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Probably too much. Not, not that much. I can honestly,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not on social media that much, but I hear it.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I see it, you know, and, and fine. Like I'm
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: okay with it.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: I kind of like learned to love it a little
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: bit because I don't, I don't know exactly why sometimes
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: people don't choose to like me, but I think a
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: lot of times I just don't know who I am. Right.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Like I'm an aggressive racer again, back to the helmet
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: on helmet off. I helmet goes on. I'm pretty aggressive.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go out there to win and you're
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: out for blood. And then, take your helmet off and
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: you're joking around, having a good time laughing. I think
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand how that's possible. Like
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: how can you be two different people? Yeah. But it's
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: just who I am and that's what it is. So
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I don't let people get under my skin too much from,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: from attacking me personally from like my, who I am.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Cause I know who I am, but from a attacking,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: what a championship means, and that my team doesn't deserve it,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: that pisses me right off. Yeah. You know, like that's
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: what makes me angry.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: Well, the haters can say whatever they want. At the
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: end of the day, like your Wikipedia is going to
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: say champion in these specific years and those aren't. So
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: that's how this is all going to operate. I'm sure
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: it would be amazing to have this 2026, the new format.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Or the backfield format and everything.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: What do you feel like has changed over the last
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: couple of months internally, like with your team? Because again,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: you go half the regular season winless. You rattle off the,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: you know, two out of the last four. What do
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you feel like changed internally with your squad?
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Well, honestly, internally, the people haven't changed, right? It's the
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: same team that's won the championship, you know, a couple
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: of years ago. So, and it's the same team that
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: struggled earlier this year. And it's the same team that's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: riding away right now. Um, so I think the fact
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: that we've stuck together is good. Now there's been hard
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: conversations in there of right. How do we become better?
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I like, it was embarrassing where we were in points
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and the way we were running. Like it's, it's not
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: who we are. Um, And again, what do you look
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: at first internally? You look at yourself. Where am I off?
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Where am I struggling? How can anyone help me get
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: to where I need to be? Right. And how can
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I help myself? Obviously. Um, and then where's the other
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: weaknesses on the team? Where else are we struggling to,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: to do things? And, um, so there was some things identified.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: There was, you know, some, some work that was done. Um,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and it's just slow, slow little things that showed up. Right. Like,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and it eventually started building a little bit of momentum
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: over the last year, the last four races, um, looks spectacular,
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: but really you go back a couple months, it's like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: you can start to see the trend. Like it started
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: to be the slow climb back up.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's like an example of one of the small things
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: that started.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: To show up. Yeah, it was like one specific thing.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I mean, speed fixes most of it.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Just being faster. You say speed.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Exactly. People talk about speed all the time. You're in that,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like in my brain or viewers' brains that are similar
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: to us.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Press the pedal harder.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Like you're in a NASCAR. Like you guys all got
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the speed.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: We call them stock cars, but they're not really stock.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: There's nothing stock about it. Make the thing faster. Yeah.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Let go. I think there's multiple things, right? There's some
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: gains that we've made as a team, setup wise, that
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: has made sense on the racetrack. Like just getting the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: car to drive the way I want it to, the
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: way I feel. I think those are good. NASCAR is.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Does that become a point of contention on whether it's
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: something with the equipment of the car?
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It just.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Where you're like, I would like for it to be
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: this way. And somebody sees it differently. Um, no, no.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's just finally like we hit on something. Like
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: you keep changing things to the car. It's like all
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, Oh, there's something that makes sense. I
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: like that. How can we apply that to other tracks?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: How can we start applying that in different ways? And,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: and all of a sudden that started growing. So I
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: think that's part of it. Um, NASCAR started enforcing a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: new rule with the front splitter, which I think some
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: other teams were taking more advantage of than we were.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And that's part of NASCAR racing is how far are
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: you willing to push a lot of things? And, you know,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: I've been a part of the bad end of it.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: When you get in trouble for this stuff, it's really bad.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: So you can't afford to push these things and get
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: your like you can't get in trouble anymore. The brands
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: are too big around you. It's just you can't do
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: that type of stuff. And some teams are willing to
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: take more risk. And the more risk you take, the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: faster your car is going to go. The higher chance
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: you're going to get in trouble if you ever get caught.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: I think there are some things going on that were
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a little bit past what our comfort zone is. And
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: those things came back. NASCAR started changing some of the
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: rules and forcing some of the things that people are
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: taking advantage of. And it came back to us.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: We're talking about cars and PEDs?
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: We're talking PEDs and cars. We're talking about raising something
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: We're playing with the line a little bit. Let's get
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: this little injection. They had a little too much testosterone
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: in some of their cars. The levels weren't matching up
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: to the drug test.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many rules are in the rule book,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: but think about how many parts are on a race car.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: When you're playing football, there's not many things you can
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: mess with. right? Like outside of the human body, maybe,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have any rules with
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: pads and shoes and football. Yeah, sure. The pressure in
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: the football, sure. Like that's a pretty big one. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: like outside of that, that's all you guys had. Like
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: a race car has got thousands of parts on it
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: and you can start to find a competitive edge on
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: every single one of those parts if you want to, right?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And in And the teams will, they will try to
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: find a little bit of it. So each time some
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: teams push us a little bit there or there, NASCAR
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: will come up with a new rule to bring that
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: back and say, okay, hell, we never thought that can happen.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: We'll just make a rule to make sure that, you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: because that's what the teams are paid to do. They're
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: paid to try to come up with things that makes
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: their car faster than the next one. Find the gray area.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Find the grays in the rule. Right. So then eventually
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: it becomes black and white instead of gray. Yeah. And
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: then you can't do that anymore. And I think some
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of those things have brought back some of the cars
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: that were going really, really fast. and brought them to
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: us a little bit with our cars actually getting better
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: at the same time. And now we're here.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: What were some gray areas? You don't have to say cars,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: but things that were taking place that people were doing
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: with their cars that maybe were within the framework of
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: the rules that NASCAR changed this year.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Or like say, do use an example back in the
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: day if you want to.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, gosh, there's so many. Where
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: do you want to start? There's so many. Here recently,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: it's been just a lot of the nose flexing stuff.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: It's just how much the nose traveled on the racetrack
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: from what the tech heights are.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, hold on. That's really cool what you just said.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I'm going to walk away from that and be like,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: that was badass.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that means though. So nose flexing.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: So like the nose, the splitter, all that whole piece
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: is set at a height that NASCAR mandates it has
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: to be at to start. Okay. When you get on
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the racetrack, there's obviously a lot of air moving around,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of downforce, a lot of pressure, and things
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: will move under those conditions. And so- noses were probably
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: dropping more than others right because now there's struts there
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: to hold it up in other words so then that
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: doesn't happen as much anymore so some teams can maybe
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: be a little bit more aggressive with letting it flex
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: more some teams bodies themselves may just flex more like
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: a chevy versus a ford versus a toyota like all
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: those can be different um right so then some might
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: be getting a little better you know better advantage on
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that than others Well, when they put a strut in there,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: it holds everything up. Now all that, that game's gone, right?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: So now that where we felt like, well, you're probably
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: a little behind there is come back to us, right?
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: You don't know exactly what your competitors have. It's not
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: like they let you crawl underneath their car and look
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: at it, you know what I mean? But you kind
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of assume like, okay, and then seeing after that, like, okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: things are starting to, we're in the game all of
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: a sudden after that. Like, you're like, all right, they
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: must've been pushing this a little bit more than us.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Cause now we're in the game before we're running 20th.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Now we're, now we're running, you know, fifth to 10th
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: can win in certain scenarios on the faster tracks that
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: we were behind. Like, okay, we're in the game now.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So that was probably the more recent one, but there's
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: those games are it's every week. Like that is constant
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: in our sport. That our sports kind of built off
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: of that. Like NASCAR racing back in the day, right.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: When things started, when, It was a stock car that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: people bought from the dealership showroom floor and then put
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: a cage in and made them race cars. There wasn't
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: any rules, right? There was barely any rules. Now, like,
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: think about it. Over the course of, what, 75 plus years,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: now you have racing. thousands of rules because everyone just
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: keeps finding the next thing. Yeah. Yeah.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: It is. It really is interesting, man.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Like having the height correct, but it seemed like the
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: black and white was adding the strut.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. I mean, it was black and white before,
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: but it's kind of like, okay, on the racetrack when
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it moves.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: But yeah, when everybody's going, when everybody's flying.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: It's flexing. Yeah, exactly. So that stuff just changes.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: What's under that hood? What's going on in the car?
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Are there people, are they like NASCAR officials who go
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and look at all the cars before the race to
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: make sure.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Everyone's up to speed?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: How was the latest time? Do the cars have to
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: be in pit row? Like National Anthem takes place in
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: 15 minutes. We got our guys all looking at it.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: So the way it works right now is so the
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: cars will unload out of the trailer. They all roll
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: through tech. So what happens first is they put them
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: up on jack stands. There'll be officials that come by,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: look at the cars. They'll look at whatever they want
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: to look at that weekend. It's hard to inspect every
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: piece of this thing, right? Because there's so many parts
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and there's 40 cars. So they'll go through that. Then
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: they'll put the cars down to roll through scales. And
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: then they have a system called the... They call it
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the Hawkeye. I think NASCAR might call it something different,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: but we call it the Hawkeye, where it scans the
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: whole body. So you put it in this tent and
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it takes... big picture of the car and it measures
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the car, the body itself. And so all of it
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: has to be within tolerance of what NASCAR mandates. So
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: if you don't make it go around, you're out like
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: you're out, go back around, adjust your car to make
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: it fit. And then you try again. Right. So you
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: only get a, you only really get a couple of
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: tries at that to make it right. So all that
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: happens before the cars even get on the racetrack. Then
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: we have practice. We qualify right after. And then after
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: you're done qualifying, they put the cars in the garage.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: No one's allowed to touch them. And then the next
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: morning you can make quick adjustments to your car, which
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: is just like heights and wedge and sway bar arms.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Like you can't do a whole bunch. We can do
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: some like fine tuning things, but you can't, that's it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And there's an official watching every move that you guys make,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: roll the cars on the grid and that's it. And
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: you erase. Then afterwards, you know, they take the top
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: three cars and they really tear them apart. That's where like,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: that's when they like, it's, it's much more in depth
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: at that point. Like, so like after a race, when
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: it's a couple hours of tearing the car apart, where
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: like the car would just be a bunch of pieces.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I just look at literally everything. They're trying to, yeah,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: you have to make it. And then that's their job. And,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: and the teams appreciate that. And as a driver, I
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: appreciate that too. Cause you want a level playing field.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: That's all you want, right? Like you don't want to
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: race against somebody. It's cheating their butt off over here.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: You cannot possibly be because they are, cheating, straight up cheating, right?
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Pushing the rules, I'm with you. That's part of our sport.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: And you should be, trying to find the very edge, right? But,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: you know, as far as straight up going too far,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: you know, NASCAR's done a good job at it lately.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: They've done a good job at reigning it. And they've
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: put some big penalties on people. That's what's done it. Right?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: It's like, you're going to slap our hands or you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: going to put us in the ground. Like, which one
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: is it? And they have made the penalties so large
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that I don't think there's many teams at all at
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: this point that are doing things that they shouldn't be doing,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: in my opinion.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: What are the penalties?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Dinero. So it's points of money are the penalties. And
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: the points are probably the most valuable thing. Money is real.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But the points that you can lose from some of
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: the stuff is like more than a race worth of
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: points of like a win worth of points. Like it
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: can take a few weeks to make up to just
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: get back to zero on some of these things. So, yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: it really does. pushes everyone back quite a bit. So yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: he's real with an iron fist. No one's going to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: do anything. Yeah. Exactly.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: A massive controversy that's taken place in recent years about
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: car people messing with cars a little too much.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Or is it that not anymore for a while? Not anymore.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: It was, there was that going on. Now it's just
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: kind of come back a lot.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: What about in the, like the O'Reilly series or some
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: of these other smaller issues? Is there more like Tom
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Fuller we taking place?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: And those are the name of that is governed as much.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: I don't, I can't honestly tell you without, speculating a
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: little bit yeah fair but i think there's a little
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: more grace over there with with the cars and they
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: can push things a little bit further um i think
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: but i don't really know.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That did you do some top foolery back.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: In the day I mean, I think everyone did a
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: little bit.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: What's the sketchiest thing you've done in your racing career?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Not with the cup series, maybe as a young lad,
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: but okay. Actually, Hey, put that, put a, put a
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: bookmark on that. Let's go back to this fake birth certificate.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: How old were you when you, is this your mom
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: or your dad?
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: This is my dad. 12 with a 20 spot.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: This is my dad.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: My dad's a wide open guy. Um, And so like,
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: we just, my father had a garbage company up in Connecticut.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: I always, that's where I started to race. That's where
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I'm from. And then when we, he sold his garbage
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: company and he just focused on going racing with me
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: for the next like 10 years. And we had a
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: freaking blast together. It was so much fun. We just
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: went racing. He didn't ever race. He didn't know what
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: the heck he was doing. I didn't know what I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was doing. We just drive race cars and have a
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: good time. And so, We were so focused on it though,
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: because that's all we did. Like I was homeschooled. Really,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I just did all, really all I did is raced.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: That was it. And so I was progressing pretty quickly
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: because the amount of time I was doing it. And
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: it got to the point, like my father believed that
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: you're only as good as your competition. So as soon
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: as I started winning at something, it was move up,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: time to move up, time to move up. And eventually
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: you're bumped up against your age because you can't move
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: up until you get a certain age. And I wanted
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: to race these cars are called legends cars. Um, and
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: there was some tracks that let me race, but the
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: majority would not. And so when I turned, uh, when
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I turned 10, I turned 12 one year. Oh, no way.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We had a guy on the inside that ran the
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: series and we're like, Hey, we're going to, he was like,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: you know, send a new burst to get in and
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: we'll just dump it in your file. All right. Sounds good.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: So we doctor it up and send it up there.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: And it worked for quite a few races ran like,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know, seven or eight races. And then I
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: remember we drove, I remember like it was yesterday. We
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: drove up to Charlotte. We got all our stuff ready
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: to go race. And they're like, yeah, you're not racing today.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean? And I go, you're,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: you're only 10. What do you mean? They come out,
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: there's two birth certificates. He didn't take the old one
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: out of the file. So he had the new one
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: and the old one.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: We're like, oh.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: Was there a penalty that took place there? Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Something like that.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I am 12.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: So your dad. It was the opposite of that. That
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is hilarious. Your dad is from Connecticut. Your family grew
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: up in Connecticut. Yeah. Northeast guy. Your dad had a
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: waste management company. Yeah. That he sold. He sold it
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to waste management.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: It has this waste hauling. Last name Logano? Yes, sir.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Hard-nosed dad? Yeah, he's pretty tough. Pretty, pretty tough guy. Yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Sounds like a very similar storyline to a man named
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Tony Soprano who had a waste management company. What were
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: we doing back.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: There, huh?
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Just hauling trash. Just hauling trash. Okay, man. All good.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Just something to think about.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: He had a guy on the inside.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: He had a guy on the inside.
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Dad would just come home late at night with a
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: baseball bat in the back of the truck.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Hey, you're going to race tomorrow, kid. You're going to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: get it done. It wasn't like that. No, we had
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: fun together. We had a good time. My dad was
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a great dad. We had a blast together. It was
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: cool because... I mean, he's a very competitive person, right?
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: And like, I mean, to build a business like he did,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: like he was, he's an all in kind of guy.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that's what, like one of the biggest
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: things I learned from him was just, if you're going
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to do it, you do it all the way. And
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: when he stopped his company and he focused just on racing,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: it was just like that. Like we took it pretty seriously,
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you know, sure. We had fun and we had, you know,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: his memories that I'll have the rest of my life,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: probably my, favorite memories of racing my whole life is
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: probably when I was a kid. That was probably the
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: best times, right? Because it's not a job then. You're
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: just doing it for fun, right?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Love of the game.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Love it, right. And when you get to the pros,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure on you, right? There's a
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: lot of people relying on you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Friday night lights.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Don't rely on me then.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Friday night lights are the best. Playing on Fridays in
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: high school.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So that was my Friday night lights, right?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: So those moments will always be my favorites. I love that.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? You looked at the birth certificate?
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: There was some of that. Yeah, fuck. Goes up, smacks
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: the doctor in the hand. What are you fucking thinking, huh?
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going to talk later.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Not in front of the kid. Not in front
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: of the kid.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: We interrupt this episode because we need to talk to
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you about something very serious.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Breakfast.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: Okay. Actually, yes.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Very serious. Because for too long, breakfast has been either
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: nothing but coffee.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Which is a crime.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: Or a full production. Chopping. Prepping.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Cooking. Cleaning.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: By the time you're done, it's basically lunch.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: And that's why we're fired up to announce that Kevin's
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: Natural Foods now has breakfast.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Kevin's for breakfast.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: You guys already know we love Kevin's for lunch and dinner,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: and now they've officially entered the morning routine with scrambler starters.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Which means you can now eat Kevin's all day, every day.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's a complete system. That's a winning game plan.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Kevin's scramble starters are legit. They're made with tender protein,
• 45:47
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• 45:51
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• 45:54
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• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Plus they're made with clean ingredients, no added sugars, gluten-free, soy-free,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: and no mystery meat.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Just high quality protein.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: You just take the scrambler starter out of the freezer,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: throw it in a pan, add your eggs, drizzle the sauce,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: and in about 15 minutes, you've got a real breakfast
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that's better than something you'd order at a restaurant.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: But without waiting 45 minutes for a table.
• 46:23
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• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Scrambler Starters in the Frozen Isle at Target, Kroger, Harris Teeter, Giant,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: and Hannaford stores.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Kevin's for breakfast. Mornings, just got a major upgrade. Let's
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: get back to this episode.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Dude, you have five kids. Now, how old are your kids?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: They are from basically 11 to five.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's if I had five kids, that's how I
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: would frame it as well.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all, well, we're fostering two, hoping to adopt.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. And then we have three biologicals. Gotcha. So we're,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: we're in the, my wife's a superhero. My wife is
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: a freaking dog. I don't know how she, she can
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: handle all that. She's doing it right now as I'm
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: sitting here, right. Talking to you guys in a school
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: bus and she's got five kids at home, but it's yeah, she's,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: she's been great. It's been, you know, fostering is something
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: that's been, it's been in her family her whole life, obviously,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: but also you know, my, my father was adopted too.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: So it's been something that's been special to us. You know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: our foundation has supported foster care for the last, you know,
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: 10 years, 10 plus years. And eventually, you know, we've
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: kept trying to say no, that we're not ready for it, right?
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Life's busy. We already have three kids. How are we
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: going to do it? And eventually, you know, if you
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: talk to talk enough, You got to walk the walk.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: And the math on foster care right now is not good.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: The amount of foster kids versus homes is not even close.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: So we felt like God told us that we need
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: to do this. And it's been great. It's been challenging,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: maybe a little more at times than we thought, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: sometimes maybe a little easier than we thought. But it's
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: been very rewarding and fun to see everyone coexisting together,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: living at home. It's been good. Yeah, it's been a
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: lot of fun.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Do you have any future racers?
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: That's about, yeah. I don't know. Which one's the best, dude?
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Which one has it? Which one's sliced bread? My oldest son, Hudson,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: he has the talent if he wants to do it,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: but he doesn't seem like he wants to race. He
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: just like, He just wants to ride quads and dirt
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: bikes at home right now. And I'm okay with that.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Cause honestly, it's all like when I grew up, that's
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: all I did. Like it was every day I got
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: on my quad and I would ride until the sun
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: went down. And he's very similar that way. But I said, well,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: why don't we race? He's like, I don't want to race.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay. And I don't want to push him either.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Cause I don't want to.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Buddy, did you see this birth certificate I made you?
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't want to rob the fun out of
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: it for him. Yeah. And. I have a blast just
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: riding with him at home. You know, like he's quick. Like,
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's to the point now that we can
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: like really race and kind of honestly get a little
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: pissed off at each other at times because it's like
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: you start pushing each other around a little bit, but
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: it's pretty fun. It's been a good time.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Is he like big into like Nitro Circus and stuff
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: like that? Or is he more just like about tracks?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: He mainly, likes just racing part of it, but like,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: he's a big NBA fan and he plays on his
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: basketball team. And that's like, that's what he wants to
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: do competitively. He wants to be an NBA player. I'm like, okay.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Dad can't help you much with that. I
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: don't know much about basketball, but let's do it. Like,
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to change. I don't want
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: to ever force anything on him, right? I just, I
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: tell him, whatever you, and I tell all my kids this,
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: whatever you choose to be, try to be the best
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: in the world at it. It doesn't matter what it is.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be sports. It can be, like
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: my father, he was a great garbage man and he
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: made a great life for himself, right? Like whatever it is,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: if you become the best at it, you're going to
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: be pretty dang successful. Just try to be the best
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: at whatever that is. Yeah.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: With your oldest, is there another kid that has like
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the passion for racing that sees what their dad does
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: and like, oh, I really want to do this?
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Not at the moment.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Not at the moment.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: No.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Is it hard for you when you have a kid
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: that you see the talent and you're like, I kind
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: of want to push him towards this a little bit more,
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: but you also want.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: To keep the fun in the game? It's probably a
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: balancing act that takes place.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: It is very hard. I'm okay with that. I don't
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: ever want to push my kids into something. It's different
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: for him racing. I think this is something that holds
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: him up. He hasn't told me this directly, but I
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: feel it. We have gone racing a couple times before.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: When I went racing as a kid, I was Joey Logano,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Tom Logano's son with the garbage company down the road.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: No one thought twice about it. But when Hudson wants
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: to go racing or any other kids might go racing.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: It's Joey Lugano, NASCAR champions child. And you're supposed to
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: be great because you're, I don't know. You have a
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: better car than everybody. You have more talent. You have
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: a better coach. You have like, you're supposed to be great.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of pressure. And no matter what,
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: they don't deserve it because they're seven, eight years old,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: whatever they may be that haven't done it anymore in
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: the next kid, but they are coming with all this hype. Right. And,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: It's just part of it, right? Like if your kids
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: want to play football, they're just supposed to be better
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: than everybody else because genetically they're better and they got
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a better coach and they know what to do and
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: all those things that should be better. But that's not fair.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: It's still a kid. Like any way you look at it,
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: it's still a kid. So I don't push them for
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: that reason. Like the times we did go racing, I said, okay,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: it's a go-kart. We're not showing up with the trailer
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: and all this fancy stuff. We're showing up at the
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: back of this pickup truck. We got a bag full
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: of tools. We're going to park in the back. We're
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: going to put duct tape numbers on this thing and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: we're going to roll up there like, and try to
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: just be under the radar as much as possible. It
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: didn't work, but tried to do it that way. And yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, he just, he just didn't seem to be
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: into it that much at the time, but you never know.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Things change.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Did he win?
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, no. He finished like third or fourth. He did.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: He did good, but yeah, he wasn't really, not quite yet.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: That's all right.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: You got time. It sounds like you got time. Yeah.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And if he doesn't, I can say, he
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: does have the love of cars though. There's no doubt
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: on that. Like, I mean, like I'm a huge car guy.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Like that's just, that's my, you have a crazy collection, right? Yeah. Yeah. Hey,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: how many cars do you have? Oh, I don't know.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: 30, 40, something like that. There's a lot of cars
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: in there. I'm a big Ford guy.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: So what's your, what's your, like your crown jewel car
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: that you're just like, I love this. This is my,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: I will never sell this.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: So probably both ends of the spectrum. So I have
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: a 24, 1924, 1924. I need to say that now.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Ford Model T. Is that this? That's my Model T. Yeah.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Love driving that car. You like driving that?
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: It's fully original. And I like it just because it's,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: for one, it's cool to see how far we've come
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: in 100 years. Like from just the evolution of the vehicle.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's really neat to see. And the other thing,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: no one's ever going to steal it because you got
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: to hand crank it and no one knows how to
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: drive it. Yeah. But it's fun. I put the kids
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: in it and we go cruise around. And then I
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: just got the new Mustang GTD. which is the newest
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: hot rod they got. Pull that up, pull that up, Matty.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: That thing is- GTD? Yeah, it is. I know about
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: the GT. So freaking fast. I didn't know they had
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: a new letter. Oh yeah, they had a new letter.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: That's the Mustang part. So the Ford GT has been out,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: then they stopped production of that. And now the GTD
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: is the new hot rod that Ford's got. And so, yeah,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: that's that sucker right there. So it is ridiculously fast.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: 800 plus horsepower, big old tires, big brakes, big ceramic
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: brakes on it. It's just carbon brakes on it. It's,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: it is awesome. What color is yours? I got it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: So all my, almost all my cars are gray with
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: like a matte black stripe. So that's, so it's similar to,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I like fitting. I like everything looking the same. It's
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: a 22nd one built. So I drive the 22. And so,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: so these cars were, So this car and the Ford GT,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: when they came out, they put a, you have to
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: apply to buy the car because everybody wanted to get
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: one and they still do. And so as a Ford driver,
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: you get a little.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Extra bump on the list.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: You got a guy on the inside.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I got a guy on the inside.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: I said, you give me a Vin 22. So I
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: got a Vin 22 with a GT. That's old Tom
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Logano coming out. Yeah. I know a guy. Yeah. So
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: those two cars, I don't want to get rid of
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: either one of those because they're like, they're special cars.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: the 22nd ones. There's like, we'll talk about the coolest
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: thing to hand down to your grandkids someday. Wouldn't that
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: be the coolest thing? And what that thing's going to
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: be like about by then. Oh my gosh. It'd be
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: the coolest freaking thing in the world.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: So you don't strike me as a guy that thing
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: rust or anything like that.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: No, no. Like warehouse that houses all these things. I
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: have a building by my house and I just, yeah,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: I drive a different car all the time. I just
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: want to drive different stuff. So, um, I tell you,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: so recently I bought into Huntersville Ford in North Carolina.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Now Joey Logano's Huntersville Ford. Anyways, for a car guy,
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: coolest thing ever because you just grab the keys and like,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: I want to drive one of these. Take the keys
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: and take it for a run. That's awesome. Coolest thing
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: in the world. So for a car guy, that's the
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: way to go.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: Is there a car that you got that you're like, nah,
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: you know, I have it, but I don't know. Then
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: you got it and you're like, oh, I actually love it.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: Was there a car you fell in love with after
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: you bought it? As opposed to, just loving it and
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: going right away. Um, what's a sleeper car in your
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: collection is basically what I'm asking.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: Sleeper. Uh, I, most of them have like some kind
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: of meaning to them. Like I'm a big fan of
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: cars that like I either grew up with or around
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: or something like that. That's, that's really special. Um, I
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: tell you what, the coolest thing is getting delivered this week.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: And I have kind of excited to see, it's called
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: a water car. Uh, so this is a, it's a
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: boat car basically. So it's a, boat that has wheels
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: on it and you duck boat driver it's a duck
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: boat but uh but uh yeah so there's a water
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: car what in the james bond is going on here
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: not that one uh so i used to have the
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: jeep version one that looked like a jeep and now
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: i just ordered a one to the yeah that's what
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: i used to have i sold that i used to
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: drive that all the time that's super cool and now
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: i got the one looks like a boat the one
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: to the left that's the that's the new ride coming
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: in That's coming in this week. I'm pretty stoked about that. Yep.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: So you just pull up to the dock. You just
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: pull right up to the boat ramp. Boom. Drive it
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: right in. And then the wheels like come up. The
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: wheels come up. You drop the motor in and see
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: you later. Cool, right?
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: That is kind of cool.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah. What kind of horsepower are we talking about with
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: that thing?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: How much does something like that cost?
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I think they're like, I think they're 150-ish. Sounds like
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: a guy that didn't pay for it. i got a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: deal on it i think there may be a little
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: bit more but i did get a deal on it
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: um but yeah they're they're cool so they're on electric
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: the wheels are on an electric motor so it's kind
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: of like a like a golf cart if you will
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: like a faster one larger one and then yeah when
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: you pull in the water it's got the outboard motor
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: and Wheels pull up and off you go. Then you can,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: the wheels pull up. You can tow it as a
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: trailer too. You can put like a trailer attachment in
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: the front and then the front wheels pull up and
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: then you can tow it like that with the rear
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: wheels down. It's pretty sick.
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited about this one.
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: What's the dumbest thing you spent your money on? This. Yeah.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: This is probably it. It sounds like you didn't spend,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: you got a good deal on that. Yeah, but that's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: probably it.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: What's the worst purchase, doesn't have to be a car,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: you made in your very long career?
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: There's no dumb purchase of wheels on it. No way.
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: That's literally the opposite of what people say. Yeah, I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: don't believe that. Floats, flies, or something else. You at
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: least see you don't buy it. Other people's words, not ours. Sure,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I've heard that before. But I mean, cars are worth it.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Cars are cool, man. I tell my wife they're investments.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah. You buy the right ones, they
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: can be. No doubt.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: At what point does your wife kind of step in
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: and like, hey, hey.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: We have five kids.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: You got 30 of them out there.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm okay. I'm not that crazy. I like the
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: game of buying and selling and flipping them and jiving
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: different things.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Your wife hearing you say, I'm not that crazy.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: How would she react? She'd probably roll her eyes a
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: little bit. Yeah. She wouldn't roll her eyes crazy.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Not that bad.
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: But see, what does help though is now my kids
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: are in, well, at least my oldest kid, Is into
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the vehicles too. So now it's like our thing.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Now you've got the loophole.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: Is there a car that's gone up so much in value?
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You can point to that if she ever complains about anything.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Which car is that? The Ford GT. The GT? Yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: the GT. GT's the one in Ford versus Ferrari, correct? Yes,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: but this is the newer version one.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: What value are we talking about? How much is it?
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: This car here is worth like 1.2, 1.3 right now.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: And I bought it for 400. Oh, shit.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: It's gone up significantly. So that one has paid for
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: all my dumb decisions. Right. That's how your brain works.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: There was no mistake because of this one right here.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: That's how an addict talks, yes. Yeah, exactly.
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: Now, did it skyrocket in value?
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: That car is so badass. That's the one win. I
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: look at that car and I'm like, dude, I would
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: love to have that car.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Now, does it skyrocket in value because of the movie?
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: No, no, not because of, I mean, the heritage of
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: what that is, is obviously one piece of it because
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: of the movie, you've seen the movie. But when Ford
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: came back out with this, they went back to Le Mans,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: kind of relived that movie again. They went back there
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and won with this car. So not that particular car,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: but DGT. Yeah. Awesome. Okay, good.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: We have like a weird running bit where like the
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: movies will be brought up all the time and Will
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: has not seen them like Animal House.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And I think it was one Speed the other day.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: There's just like a lot of like cult classic movies
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: that Will hasn't seen.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: But Ford vs. Fry is one of the good ones.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: That's a good one. I love that movie. Yes.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Because I was going to think too, it seems like
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: if it was the movie that spiked the price, you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: got to start building out this production company and just
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: make movies about the cars that you have.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You got to basically Logan Paul. That's smart.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: But this car, dude, I think it's so awesome. But
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: as with my height, there's like, I would never.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: In a million years fit in that car. It's tight
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: for me. Yeah.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: And it's like, that's kind of just gone out of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 3: my brain.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I'll never. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: I'm a zoo animal, dude. The Mustang's better for you.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: I hate even bringing this up. I'm building a Mustang. Yes.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Why do you hate bringing this up? This is what
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: When I started to build this Mustang in 2022, I
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: asked the guy, and I'm not going to say his
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: name because I'm actually really pissed off at him right now.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: This would be a good time to call him out. Right. Yeah.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how long until this car is built? He
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: said 10 months.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: I said- In 2022. 2022.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: Paid.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: I was like, how much is this car going to cost?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: He goes- High end this much. I go, okay, that's
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: how much I'm going to get you right now. Give
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: me your wiring information.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: I wired him, paid for the car in full.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: And Taylor, we're in the locker room together. He's showing
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: me photos.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: It's going to be done in 10 minutes.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: It's like custom wheel wells where the tires are real big.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: What year is that? It's a 1970 Fastback. Yeah. It's
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: going to have a Coyote in it. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: We had a custom, I think a Roadster chassis. Everything's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: like custom. I'm so fired up.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: It's 2026.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: And actually this morning- He texted me. He's like, hey,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: this is going to get done, blah, blah, blah, in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: two weeks. I go, you told me September 10th. And
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: you're telling me now that in two weeks you're going
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: to get back for it to get painted. And it's
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: going to be a few more months. Like, why am
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: I just learning about this now?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And I literally just went off on him about it.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: When the car is done, I'm going to be juiced
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: about it. But the process in which.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: It goes down is just brutal, dude. It's just like horses.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: And I hate that. You don't even close. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And this story happens more than you think. And I hate,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: like I'm into restoring cars and doing things like that,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: but you hear these stories so many times that people get. See,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: the Mustang is sick. Yeah, it is cool. You said
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: it's a 70, right? It's a 70 Fastback, yeah. I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: have a 71. So it has a little longer back
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: on it. But yeah, that model year looks really, really good.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: It's super sharp. And the wheel wells that come out,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: like the tires in the back are like.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Did you put a supercharger on it? Yes. You're
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: damn right. All right. Nice. Now you're cool. All right.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: We'll take it. There you go. Now we're talking.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm old school Ford with it too, where
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: it's like, I can have any color I want as
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: long as it's black.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: So the car will be black. Yes. It's like nothing crazy.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: Like the car, the body of the car itself to me,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: that's telling... That's the bad assness of it.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I don't need to go.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: Cause I've never been like a fast and the furious
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: type of like highlighter colors. I've never been into that.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: But like a sharp looking black Mustang.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: I messed with it.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: So once this car's on, maybe the best thing to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: come out of my love for cars is starting racing
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 3: with the boys. Cause now I feel like if I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: ever do this again, I have a lot of connections
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: in Charlotte to be like, I'm going to build.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: A car out there. Yeah, call me next time, would you? Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Seems like you are the guy, actually. I probably am.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Do you do custom.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: Builds at all or do you have custom builds done
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: for you?
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: We do. So you have one? Yeah, we do some
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: of it at our dealership. We do a lot of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: custom builds at our dealership, like a lot of them.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: A lot of new stuff, some older cars as well,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: restoring stuff. But that stuff's that that's my passion that's
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: that's what i love doing right he loves seeing my
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: new plug dude yeah he loves seeing like okay there's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: a stock car it's really cool obviously like you can
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: take a bronco or an f-150 or whatever a mustang
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: and they're like they're cool to start us is a
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: cool start but you want to make it unique and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: make it your own a little bit right and everyone
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: has their way of doing it and their style right
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: like your style sounds similar to mine or most my
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: cars are black and yeah maybe a silver stripe but
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: they're darker and they all look cool the same some
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: people like the super to your point, highlighter colors that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: are bright and out there. And I don't know, that's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: cool too. Like we like building that type of stuff too.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Are you familiar with the Lobo trucks right now? Do
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: you like the, like the lowered, like you've seen like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the lowered F-150s right now? Are you talking about like
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: the bagged ones?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Trucks.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're not even on bags, but just lowered.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: Like a sport truck. I actually have a 77 F-100
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: that is lowered, like where the wheel and the wheel
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: well sit, like comfortable, like right here, it's like nice
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: and flush. And I like that street truck look a lot.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: But the older I get and like the Raptor you
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: saw sitting out there, like I love, like if I'm
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: doing a modern car, it's a two inch lift, it's 38s,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: it's 22s. And just that to me with the stance
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: where it comes out like an inch and a half
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: to two inches. To me, that's like the perfect look
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: to a newer modern car.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: But now I'm seeing myself with the old cars, like
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: the bull noses.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: What is it called? What is it? It's like a 74-
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: And I might be getting over my seats. I don't
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: think it might be, it might not be a Ford,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: but they have like bullnose where the front end is
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: like more protruding out and it kind of comes down
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: like this a little bit. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: And I think those old like ranch trucks are awesome
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: with lifting good tires.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: What about like a newer lowered truck? That's not my speed.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: That's not your style? That's not my speed right there. No,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I like all the power to whoever wants to do it.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: And I've had a lot of trucks pull.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I have one of those.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: You pull up to me on the highway and you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: rev your engine a couple of times trying to get
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: me going. And I'm like, no, bro, I'm cruising. I'm
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: 10 over, but I'm still like cruising, having a good time.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Those are high right now.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: A lot of people are doing that. See if you
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: can pull up my 77 F100. Because it's, dude, it's
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: matte black and the interior is cowhide interior.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: I have a taxidermied squirrel. Oh, cool. That sits there.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: He's got a cowboy hat, a little gold chain and
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: a gun in his hand. And his name plate says
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Roy Cleveland Sullivan.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. He ain't lying, bro.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: It works for about a.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Week at a time.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Dude, literally every three months it breaks down to where
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: I called the same guy that I pissed off right now.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: I go, I don't want to see it again.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: So, and he takes care of that car for you
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: if you have issues? Well, he's taking, yeah. Look at
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: that high school photo of Louie right there. There I am,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: broken down. There I am. There he is right there.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: You're out of gas. I'm out of gas. I thought
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you were just out of gas. That's off the highway
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: right here. That's on you if you're out of gas. Yeah, 100%.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: You ain't lying. There it is right there. That's a
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: cool shot. Yeah.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: And I got that.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: So the hood ornament is a guy on a bucking horse.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: I found that on Amazon and powder coated it like
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: that root beer, the same color as the bumper right there.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: So Detroit steel wheels on the side. I love a good,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: cool looking custom vehicle. But dude, I had an unreasonable
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: expectation of these old cars where I want to drive
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: them every single day. They all want to get in it,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: turn the key and roll. Like when you're talking about
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: cars being totally original and all that, like to me,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: that's like, I'm a domesticated cat. Like I can't change
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: a tire. I don't know how to change the oil
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: on a vehicle. I do not know how to do
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I'm a domesticated cat.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: I would love to just get in a car, turn
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: the key and it's like, this thing looks badass and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: it runs every single time.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: I am now learning about myself that this is the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: most unrealistic goal I've ever.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Had for myself.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: Ever. And that sucks because I think, yeah, this truck rips.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Look how bummed out you look right there. I am
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: so bummed out. Because- I think I just got out
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: of the shop.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: And at the moment I was like, I think I
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: broke down again, but you know, the gas tank's there.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: So I probably figured it out. Ran out of gas.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Did you walk? Did you walk to go get gas?
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Did you have to like walk up the highway? No,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: so we were all like kind of caravanning back to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the shop. This is like- So you had friends with you.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: So Jeremy Clump actually pulls up behind me and we
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: go to the gas station like a mile away. We
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: get this little tank and fill the tank up. You
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: didn't have to do the walk of shame, like walking
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: back to your car with the gas jug. Been there though.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Been there before. And everyone knows you look like an idiot.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I ran out of gas. That's on me.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: What's like, have you seen the vintage Broncos? Yeah.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: My wife has a 74- One of those has got
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: a coyote in it. It's got a Wimbledon white, just
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: classic light brown interior in it.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: And it is so bad ass dude. Yeah. It is
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: such a cool looking. She drives her car. She drives.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: That's her. That was her dream car. Yeah. It's yeah.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Type in vintage Bronco. Vintage started making old Mustangs too.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: And they have a really cool deal with Ford to
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: where they get, I guess that's it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I guess. Is it more like that blue one? Isn't it?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: It's more like that blue one. Yeah. Yeah. There's more
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: like it. Yeah, it's that, but it's in a Wimbledon white.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: And dude, it's so sharp. It's fun to rip around in.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: And it's got like the whole interior is like a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: new Bronco inside of it, right? Yeah, it's like brand
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: new on the inside. It has like the glass dash
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: and all the stuff just like the new Broncos. Yeah,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: they're pretty cool. I've seen one before. I've only seen one,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: but they look pretty cool.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but the deal they have with Ford is like
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: all of these parts come from Ford factory. So it's like,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: it's a, essentially it's a old looking car. This one's
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: never broke down on me, which is amazing. And, um,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: but it's a, it's a brand new car with a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: 74 body.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I just think that's awesome. Perfect. I'm a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: huge fan of that.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. George got something like that too, didn't he?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: George's got, I mean, this is, yeah, George is going
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: Portnoy even like, he's like, I'm not a car guy,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: but he has, I think two of these.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Dave? Yeah. Oh, shit. I think we were in New
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: Orleans with him.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Right as we were leaving Barstow, we were all talking
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: about like, he's like not into things like this, but
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: he does love these Broncos. So he's got a couple
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: of them. There's Young Kittle right there.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: But yeah, dude, I love it. I love it.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: Is there a car that you haven't gotten yet that
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 3: you want to get your hands on? Do you have
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: like a white whale?
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Not really.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: You got them all. Yeah, and the old stuff's fun.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: So my dad... from the trucking stuff. He was, he's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: in the old trucks. So he's, he's into a lot
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: of stuff. All this stuff. Yeah. You figure out next time,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: but that's, so I recently, I always drove the trucks
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: around as a kid. Like that's when I got out
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: of school before I was homeschooling. I lived in Connecticut.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: When I get home from school, I'd go to the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: truck garage there and I would just drive trucks around
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: like as a child. Like that's what I, I watered
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: a yard, a big tanker truck. And I was a
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: seven year old kid driving this tractor trailer is what
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: I did. And I had fun doing it. And so like,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: I've always driven trucks growing up and used to that.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: And my dad's into antique trucks. And so I've always
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: done it illegally. I finally got my CDL, which I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: think is probably the right way to do it. Yeah. Well,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, I drove trucks on the highway, but I-
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: How old were you when you got your CDL? Last year.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I was 35 years old. I finally got it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: But yeah, now I can legally drive. I drive trucks
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: for just for the heck of it. I think I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: put my kids in the back and we go. Yeah.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Just take it to your grocery store. We take it
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: to church. We roll up to the church in a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: big tractor trailer. That's great. That's good times. Good times.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: Have you got your dad something that he's always wanted?
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Antique truck?
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Have I gotten him one? Yeah.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Have you gotten him one?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: So I surprised him one year. I mean, that's the
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: coolest thing to do because I wouldn't be here if
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: it wasn't for my parents, like supporting my career. Right.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: And so when I started to actually make it, not,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: when I thought I made it and then lost my job,
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: like when I actually made it, uh, I bought my
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: dad an old Chris craft boat, like the old wooden
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Chris crafts. Awesome. Yeah. Super cool. And so, uh, I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: always remember I, I surprised him with, I told him,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: I was like, I bought this new boat. Come, come
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: to the, come to the lake. I want to show
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: it to you. And we come cruising up in it.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm the keys. And I was like,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: that's yours now. You know, it was like one of these.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: It was just like that.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a cool boat.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, something about like a white polo
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: and some blue shorts.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Right? Just cruise.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: Girl next to you has got a scarf on and
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: some big glasses.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: That's the vibe right there. That's what it looks like, right?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah. Yeah, that's a good joke. Chugger out. That's
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: some James Bond type stuff right there. That's a pretty boat.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: That's a beautiful boat.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Isn't it? It's just pretty. It's all wood too, which
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: makes it like. Yeah, there is sick. It's a piece
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: of art. Yes, it is. They don't make them like
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: that anymore. No, they don't. And it sounds great. You
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: like the old, like an old boat. just kind of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah. You know what I mean? The
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: water's kind of shooting out of the pipes a little bit.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about, man. That old boat sound.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: That old boat sounds nice. You got to get a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: nice old boat sound. You guys are going the wrong
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 3: way on this.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just engaging because I have no clue of this
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: boat sound that you're talking about.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: You don't know. You don't know. It's like that. Yeah.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? The water's coming out of
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: the pipes.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: Honestly, when you guys' cars at NASCAR pull into the pit,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: Like that kind of sound as you're an idol.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds good, doesn't it? Yeah, dude, that's the
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: best sound in the world. Our cars at Idol sound
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: really good. They're badass. Wicked loud. God, they get me
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: juiced up, man. Have you guys been to a race yet?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we were at the Grand Marshall. We were at
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: the 400. Grand Marshall for Cracker Barrel 400.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, really? Oh, thanks for saying hello to me. That's cool.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: We hadn't met yet. We're like, holy shit, that's the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: Joey Logano. Yeah, is that what you thought at all?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Did you guys do a good command though? Like, I
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: didn't see it. Some people are saying it's top two.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Some people are saying it's top two. We're not going to.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: Top two?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Because the Kevin James one was probably the best one, right?
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Kevin James is number one. That's number one. You can't
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: beat it. Hard to beat.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I'll say this, not to brag, but it has been
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: commented that that's the name that came out when talking
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: about the, look.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: You don't want to brag about it, but you guys
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: feel like you're right there, huh? This is the best
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: one since Kevin James.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: You guys feel that way? Have you been told that
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: or do you feel like people are saying?
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: That's what people have said. People.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And we don't look at negative comments. Right, so
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: only the good ones. Yeah. Right. I've done a good
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: job filing those away. That's the best way to do that.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Because if you got any hate comments on this, you'd
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: look at this.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the custom part of that is we'll hit them
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: with an extra vroom vroom at the end.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: You gave them a vroom vroom? Vroom vroom.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: You gave them a vroom vroom? Yeah.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a whole- I almost cracked too. I
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: almost started laughing. Yeah.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Was that the plan? Did you guys like practice it?
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Did you have a plan on how you were going
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: to do it?
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: It kind of got put together that day.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. But you had some thought into it that day.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: The most difficult part of this is, hey, we want
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: two guys to say, gentlemen, start your engines.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: Right. And I'd say, all right.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: And I know that Will's got a more commanding voice
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: than I do.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: So I was like, Will's got to be the gentlemen,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: start your engines guy. So I put together a little like.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: So this is the hype. Yeah, this is the hype.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Taylor hit a monologue, an American monologue.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, American made. Did you talk about America some? We
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: were built for tough that day, I'll tell you that. Yeah,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: you were. Look at this. I wish I could hear this. Yeah.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: This is for the car ride back to the airport. Yes,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: I'm looking it up. On repeat.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Vroom, vroom.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Vroom, vroom. Yeah, dude.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: I will say, here's my... We did a practice run
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: right before this. And I was better at my practice
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 3: run than I was live.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Was the practice awkward while people were staring at you
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: guys practicing? I was just real nervous. I was just
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: real nervous. Bro, same. Even when I'm yelling.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, start your engines, I can feel my legs. I'm like, fuck, dude.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I know. This is happening. You get a little nervous. Yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: It's kind of a great feeling that when you're nervous, like, oh,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: I'm about to go do something where if I fail,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: it'll go nuclear for all the wrong reasons.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And if you're able to pull it off, it's like, fuck, yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: But if you don't, Hopefully you get a shot. Oh, well. Right? Like,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: if it don't, it don't. Like, I feel like people
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: are too conservative these days because they're scared of failure.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Fear of failure. Yeah, fear of failure is a real thing, man.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Holy moly, dude. Like, just do it. And like, you know,
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of clips of me looking like an
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: idiot on the internet. What do you think the number
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: one is? Oh, well, probably me freaking fighting people at
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: the end of a race. It's not real smart. I'm
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: glad you brought it back up. Oh, thanks. But I'm
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: just saying, that's good, man. Dang it. Here's some of
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: my moments.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: What was your worst altercation with a driver?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Stewart? Hamlin? Bush? Probably, no, the Bush one wasn't bad.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: That one wasn't bad.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, there we go.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: Probably the one that I regret the most was the
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: one with Kevin Harvick. And so he dumped me a
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: couple of times. It's kind of his building. We're friends now,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: so it's okay. But, uh, we, he wrecked me and
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: eventually I had enough. He put me on the TV
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: and at the time his wife, Delaina, she always wore
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: a fire suit on pit road. And I don't know
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: the exact reason why. Maybe. I don't know what the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: reason was. And, but I went down the road. You
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have gone. I made it personal. I said, well,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: it's not his fault. I said, you know, his wife
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: wears a fire suit in the family.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: And I was like, ah.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: And that's total like, ah. It's good wordplay though. It's
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: good wordplay. It was. It's good wordplay.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: It was funny.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: And he made t-shirts and he sold them for his
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: charity and all. And it's funny. And so I recently
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: went on his podcast and I wore one of the
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: t-shirts from 20 years ago. That's funny. But yeah, that
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: was probably one of the funnier ones. But yeah, there's
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: moments like that, that, you know. You know, it just happens. Yeah.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: You got to move on. We've all done. I was
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: 19 there.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: That's you?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: That's me.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: You can't even recognize me.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: No, not at all.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: I was way younger. And so, yeah, that wasn't one
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: of them. You don't have to steer it there? No,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: it was Harvick. That's Harvick right there. And the funny
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: thing is now I drive the show car. He was
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: driving the show car then.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: Man, it is crazy how young you are.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Look at the strut. You are strutting right there. So anyways, yeah,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: that's one of my more embarrassing moments. Thanks for bringing
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: it up. Anyone bring up the weirdest? Have you guys
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: done any stupid stuff like that? I've actually never looked
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: up on the internet. Not once actually. Good for you guys.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: I've never missed. Actually, you know what? This is one
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: of my better moments.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Matt?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, pull my pitch up. Thanks.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: I can always count on Mitch to body bag me
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: whenever we have a fucking podcast on.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Oh, yeah. This is my first pitch.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: So we know when we talked about being nervous before
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: big moments.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. I was 0% nervous for this. 0%? 0%. But
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: you should have been. You tell me. I'm wearing 77.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: See the person in the yellow? Oh. Look, there's that.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Get some push-ups in too, man. I got to get right.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: That is, I don't like how hard you're laughing at that. No,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: I'm laughing because I have a similar story. This is
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: the worst friend ever right here. He's going to beam
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: it in there, isn't he? Look at him. And boom.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Not a problem. Natural strike. It was perfect. It was
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: a great throw. Yeah, good job. And I just... Damn, yeah,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: that's a bad one. Yeah, but I mean, you can also...
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of that thing.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: You go. You got to balance it back and forth.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: You have some balance. Got to have some balance in there.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: That's okay. Yeah. This one right here. Yeah, this is.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 3: This thing comes up like three, four times a year.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm the guy in 77, if you can't tell.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not the black guy. So what were you doing before?
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: What was that little hand motion?
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: So that was Josh Nolan. Josh, his celebration was the arrow.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 3: So when he would do stuff, he would like throw
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: an arrow at the guy. He, he, he did some stuff.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: I didn't like, we were in a four minute drill
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: at the end of the game. Um, and he, he, he, he, no,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: he tackled, uh, our running back there, Henry. And I
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: kind of rolled this, like, it's like at the end
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: of the game, like we're in four minutes, you guys
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: have lost. It's pretty much over.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: So he's sulking on the sideline and I go and
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: do this to him. What sucks though is- He's a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: lot smaller in here.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh is- Will played with him and says, Josh
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: is a great guy. He's actually an awesome teammate and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: a good dude.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: I should have dropped somebody cold where they stood too.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he probably is. He probably is. Again, you get
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: in a competitive environment and you flip gears. It's just
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: And also the position I played in football was very
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 3: much like, there's an S garbage right there. Um, like
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 3: you have an office alignment, so you're, you're going to
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: protect your guys. So the running back and the quarterback
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: like are always.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: Off limits to you. Always, always in forever. Um, but yeah,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: you have moments. Sweet Marcus.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is the Richard Sherman one.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: So this is, that's Richard Sherman, which I met at
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: the Pro Bowl the year before. One of the nicest
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: guys in the world, but that's a crazy late hit.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: So. Is that you right there? Yeah, that's me. Ha
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: ha ha. What were you saying to him? I can't
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: even remember. Like, want to go to dinner later?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: Ah!
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck is that? What the
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: fuck is bullshit? You hit my quarterback!
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: You hit my quarterback!
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Just like a Neanderthal type of talk. Just
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 3: learn words for the first time.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: That's bullshit!
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: That's bullshit! You know it!
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Hey, but a guy that ruffles a lot of feathers,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: drives very aggressively, kind of how you've described yourself, Carson Hosobar.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: What's your relationship with Carson Hosobar like? Have you guys
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: ever got into it?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: We've had, I mean, I don't know if there's anyone
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: on the track he hasn't run into yet. So I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: think I'm definitely part of that list at some point.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: Has he wrecked you? Have you wrecked him? He's gotten me, shoot,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: he got me this week indirectly. He wrecked himself and
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: then I got caught up in his wreck. But yeah,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's pretty aggressive out there. Yeah, he is.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: He pushes it to a different, different edge. I don't
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: know if I quite understand it, but he's definitely pushing it.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Is it kind of like yourself back in the day? No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: The, the world has changed quite a bit actually, because
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: the things that I did that made Harvick mad or
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Tony Stewart or like most of these guys that I
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: got runs with those things back then were pushing it.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: Now it's very normal. Like the aggressive, the level of
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: aggressiveness in NASCAR racing has gone through the roof on
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: how everyone's just, it used to be crazy to see
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: cars go three wide. Like it was a big deal.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Oh God, they're three wide. Now it's like three wides
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: every restart. Four wide would be something that's a little surprising,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: but even that's not that crazy anymore. So it's just
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: kind of, What is three wide? Just three cars? Like
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: three cars, three wide. Got you. That makes sense. More
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: self-explanatory than that. That's for the viewers. You don't have
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: to go any deeper than that. That's just what it is.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: So the things that used to make some drivers mad
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: when I was first starting 20 years ago is normal now.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: This is a whole other level. What is he? Is
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: he just super aggressive? Like he'll just... If you have
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: a situation- It just doesn't add up. It feels like
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: it's dumb aggression. Yeah, it's just kind of like, well, why?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: If you're trying to win a race, you're making a move,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: you're doing something to try to do it, like, okay,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: or you're just doing it to do it, then it's different,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: you know? And there's been some moves that are probably questionable,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: you know? And granted, like I said, I've been that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: side of it before, you know, not this far, but there.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: And yeah, it's just, I don't know what to tell you.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: You got to compete against each other every week is
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: what it is. Did you say this? Look at this guy.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: This weekend was actually humorous.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, this is last week.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: It was pouring rain. No, so it was raining, pouring rain.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: And we are just now learning to start races in
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: wet conditions on ovals. We've done it on road courses,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: but on ovals, we always say if it's wet, but
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: not raining- We'll start the race. Well, it's raining out.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: Like to the point you can't really see the water's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: coming inside the car. You can't start the race in this.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: So they, my spotter asked me at the moment, like, Hey,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: NASCAR is asking, you know, thumbs up or thumbs down
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: to go. And I'm like, thumbs down. Well, Josefar is
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: next to me. And he's like, I guess he's going
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: to see how much grip there is. So he goes
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: and passes the pace car, which is a no, no,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: you're not supposed to do that. And then this is
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: under caution before the race starts. And then just spins
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: it out in front of the field. And I'm like, Huh.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: And that's what I was like, look at this idiot. Like,
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: look at this guy go. Where's he going? And so, yeah.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: And if you just see that context, obviously it goes
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: further than what you think it is. That's how they
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: get you. All of it was just, I was watching
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: the guy spin out. It's like someone making a dumb
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: move on the highway. Like, look at this idiot. Where's
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: he going? You know? And that's kind of what it was.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: And it was, honestly, it was kind of funny. What
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: would be the logic of that? He was thumbs up.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: He wanted to go racing. And I was on thumbs down.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: And He should have had thumbs down. No, no. They
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: pulled us in and waited for it to stop raining.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: I guess that made sense. This is it right here.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: What track are you most confident on?
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Richmond. Yeah, this is him under caution. You're probably going
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: to see me drive by. Here I go right here.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: And what's the reason behind passing the pace car?
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: You can't pass the pace car. The pace car is
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: there to set the pace under caution, under yellow flag.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: So what's he doing passing the pay?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He has to do that. He's being,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: it sounds like he's being an idiot. Geez. Yeah. An idiot.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: Where is he going? I do have one more question
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: for you. And this was, make sure to ask you
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: this before. All right. Sorry.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: At the end, why are numbers so far forward on
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: your car?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Why the numbers far forward? Yeah. They're forward on all
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: the cup cars now because they added more sponsorship placement
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: on the door. So in the past, the number was
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: dead center of the door. So you didn't have as
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: much sponsor placement. You had it over to quarter panel,
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: like over to quarter panels, like where the seat post
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: comes down. Yeah, sure. Where it says shell. That used
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: to be all you had. And the number was in
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: the middle. So you didn't have much area to put sponsorship.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Now the number is all the way forward. We can
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: put a big old Penzo logo right there. And they
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: like that. Penzo wants that. Yeah, they want that. That
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: looks sharp to you? Yeah. I think it looks sharp too.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: I just want to know your opinion. That does look good.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: Do you know how much it would cost to get
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: a small bumper sticker put on your car? I mean,
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: what size are we? Something like that. Something small.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll need it bigger than that, right?
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: How big do you want it? Hold on one second.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: We want it to go across.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: All the way across?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: No, no, not all the way across. I'm just saying
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: like long enough.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Long. Kind of like the NASCAR. I like that NASCAR thing.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: On the bumper, on the back. What's that Mustang you're
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: building worth? How much is it worth and how much
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: you get into it? Two different things. No, no, I'm
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: just saying, you're gonna let me drive it? Your Mustang? No,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: let me drive your Mustang. Yeah, I'll let you drive it.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I'll absolutely drive it.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: You gotta sign a couple of waivers, couple of things. Technically,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: I'm making promises I can't keep here. I don't own
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: the car. Yeah. I just drive the car.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: Just drive the car. Is there a way to sneak
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: something on?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like similar to like when cars come out and
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: there's a long wait list, like you have a way
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: to get to the front of the line.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can put a little sticker
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: on it. Or a small little bushing with the boys.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: I think like inside the car or something, maybe like
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: an interior.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: No, not inside the car.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Well, but then like the in-car camera can see it though.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: It'll be exposure because you have the in-car camera. Does
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: that count? He's got a point. Does that count?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it counts.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it counts. like can you I mean put sponsors
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: back there yeah do you control any of the sponsors
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: very few I mean I have relationships with them but
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: yeah you control some yeah and you're like do you
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: ever like do pro bono like kind of like how
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: lawyers do for people that can't afford their own litigation
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: do you Yeah, I do favors all the time for people.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: For my voice.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for the voice.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: I remember sitting on this bus with you and being like,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: once you're loyal to me, I'll do anything. I feel
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: very loyal to you right now.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. I'm just wondering how loyal I feel. I'm
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: trying to put your sticker on my car. I'm about that.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: We're talking the same language. I mean, I feel like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: we're pretty close to the same language. What's your favorite animal?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe an accent, a little different, but pretty close.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: Favorite animal.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: Favorite animal?
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I tell you what,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: I got three new goats today. I haven't met them yet,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: but I know I got three goats coming.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: You say a goat is your favorite animal?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if my favorite animal. Well, I
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: tell you what, I got a big poison ivy problem
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: at home. I told you I like riding quads a lot. Yeah.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: And there's a lot of poison ivy back there and
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: we've got it on us too many times. I said,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: screw it. So I'm getting goats. I got two goats already.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: We're going to get more goats and we're going to
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: eat that poison ivy right up because I'm sick of
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: being itchy.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: We could do like- So right now, yeah, sure.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite animal.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: A stuffed goat.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: And he's wearing something cute and that something cute. It's
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: just got. busted with the boys on it. And you
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: can set it. you know, wherever you want inside for
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: the camera.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know you were going with that. Oh, so
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: you weren't. But I'm saying it's got a way.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: Hey, I like driving with my stuffed goat.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's my good luck charm. It's a whole different level.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: It's my good luck charm. And then everybody be fascinated.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: Look at that goat. Oh man, he's rocking a bus
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: with the boys.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: What's a shirt on that goat? What's going on? Is
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: that a bus with the boys shirt on the goat?
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: We're kind of on the same. Wow.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: We are kind of on the same.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: It would set you apart from everybody else. Yeah. At
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, what are we trying to do, man?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: You know, set apart. Yeah.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can't be better if you're not different. Exactly.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: I used to get poison ivy so badly when I
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: was little that I'd be naked, pink calamine lotion all
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: over my body and just sitting naked in front of
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: a van. Dude, it gets so bad. I couldn't like
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: open my eyes when I wake up in the morning.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: That's really bad. You got it really bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: Rubbing it all over you? I guess.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: We'd be playing outside a lot and kind of have like,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a, what do you call them?
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Like a little... Not a tree house because we'd just
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: be in the weeds and shit.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: But we'd think of it as like our house. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: You thought it was weeds. Yeah.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: It wasn't weeds. Damn.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: Our little secret spot, but it'd just be poison ivy.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to get it.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: I get it so bad.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: That sounds awful. Yeah. See, that's why I got to
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: move to Arizona. There's no poison. I'll let you borrow
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: some goats.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of my body covered in this pink alimony lotion.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: There'd be three floor fans sitting around me and I'd
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: just have to sit there like after my mom put
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: it on me and I'd just be sitting in the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: living room floor budget.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: Just toes to head.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: That's brutal. That is brutal. Yeah.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: So we can definitely have the conversation of a bumper
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 3: sticker bust with the boys bumper sticker.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we can have a talk about it.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, again, I don't own the car. I'm making. Yeah,
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: we got to talk to Penske.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We'll talk to Penske.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get on the horn with them. Yeah.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, Dr. P.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: What's going on, man? Plus with the boys here.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Hope you're doing well. Hey, we were talking to Joey
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: on the bus. I don't know if you saw the episode.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: And he said this is a great idea and we
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: should talk to you guys about it.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: And he said he promised it without fully promising it.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Just said we had to call Dr. P.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: And we want your drivers to have great people. You
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: have my endorsement. I don't know about. The rest of it.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: I'll take that. But I can help push that along.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: Maybe a Bustin' with the Boys fire suit. Now you're
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: going too far. Okay, yeah, you're right. That's too far.
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: We've got to find the envelope somewhere. You were in
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: a good spot. Yeah. Then you brought the goat in,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: pushing a little much. I don't know if I want
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: a little stuffed animal goat hanging out in my car.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I need that.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: Just trying to be creative.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: Fire hazard.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: Fire hazard.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: That's a good point. Fire hazard. That would be the reason, obviously. Well,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: you saw the things you don't want to do. It's
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: pretty easy to land on the bumper sticker now, right?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: I mean- Within reason, I believe so. I believe so. Yeah,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: I think we can all find that reason. We need
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: to talk. We need to talk.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Because we don't know if we can either. So we
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: can't make that promise, but we- You know.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: If you can do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: control the sponsors. So can we trade it out then?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Does that make more sense? Okay. Like if you're getting,
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: can I get something in here? Like, do I get
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: placement in here? If you're getting placement on a race car?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Wait a minute. I mean, because I thought we were- No, no, no.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: It's definitely give and take.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: Let me ask you, your perfect world, what is your-
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: I think I got it.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: He could put one of his, maybe two of his
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Ford dealership vehicles, like he'd park it here.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. You see how that works? Yeah. Huh.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: We'll break them in for you up to 2,000 miles.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like a test driver. We'll do that for you.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Great idea.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 2: Whoa, wow. You guys are super kind. That's a great idea.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: Get your name on the license plate. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: What if that bus went to Boise?
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: How about up there? Is it Joey Logano? Ooh, that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: would look better. No, I think that's a good trade-out.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: That's really expensive real estate. That's a pretty good deal. Oh,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: and my car's not? Oh, no, I'm just saying. He's
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: saying it's a fair trade. Yeah, it's a fair trade. Like,
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: if you want to talk about us on your hood.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: How much is busting with the boys paying you to
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 2: put that helmet right there? That's, that's.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: We know a couple guys.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: We got a guy on the inside. Yeah, exactly. We
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: got a guy on the inside.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's a big, that's a big piece of real estate.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: That's a big, really. I didn't, I wasn't ready for
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: you to negotiate so hard.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: You want to talk about that one? I mean, that,
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: you know, we can talk post-show.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Whoa, wait, the Vandal?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: The cost of, yeah.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 2: Oh, with the cost.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: The cost.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought we were trade. I thought it was a,
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: you know. Oh, we do trade for sure. But that's
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: like for a small bumper sticker. I mean, you were
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: talking about the size of that NASCAR one. That's what
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: you're talking about. Say it again. You were talking about
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: the size of the NASCAR logo back there. That's a
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: pretty big bumper sticker. Have you seen a bumper sticker
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 2: that big? That is a pretty big bumper sticker.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: We can do that right there.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks good. Just put my smiling face right there.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: But I mean, that size bumper sticker? Is that too big?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: Is that what you want? Is that what you're going for?
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: I kind of like it a long ways. Again, I
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: don't have any control of this. I like it a
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 2: long ways because I think of a car, his car,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: up to another car, and then they'd be able to
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: see it right there. It's just one driver. One driver
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: sees it.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: In the goat thing, we could do that for your daughter.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: So whenever you want to race and you hug her,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: she'll be carrying the stuffed goat.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: We'll find out their favorite animals. There's a good idea.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: I like that idea. But now we're given two things.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: He's only given one. We don't want to overextend ourselves.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Fair, but he could be our guy. He could be
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: like our driver.
• 1:33:44
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