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  Speaker 1: He's the bold reform it.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight a day of shame for the Prime Minister in
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  Speaker 2: his worst press conference for the year, unable to say
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  Speaker 2: even if he supports Israel firing back after Round's massive
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  Speaker 2: missile attack. Plus the ABC's many directors forced to sit
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  Speaker 2: through one of the longest acknowledgement of traditional owners after
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  Speaker 2: the ABC was accused of systemic racism. Watch the ABC
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  Speaker 2: outwoke even itself and debate disaster as Kamala Harris's running
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  Speaker 2: mate trying to explain why he lied, and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: knuckleheader and another crispone green scheme in trouble as electric
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  Speaker 2: cars go up in smoke. But first the mask is off.
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  Speaker 1: You're round.
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  Speaker 2: Last night at one hundred and eighty one missiles at Israel,
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  Speaker 2: overwhelming Israel's Iron Dome missile defense. Missiles exploded over Israel,
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  Speaker 2: but despite the terror, came this astonishing good news. Israel
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  Speaker 2: is actually winning and its critics were so very wrong
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  Speaker 2: to tell her to stop fighting. I'll get to our
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister in a second. He utterly disgraced himself. Today Israel
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  Speaker 2: is actually stronger because this attack shows the truth. It
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  Speaker 2: is Iran that's been the puppa master in this terrorist
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  Speaker 2: war against Israel. Iran far of those missiles because it's
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  Speaker 2: been humiliated. It's funded and armed at Hamas terrorists in Gaza,
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  Speaker 2: only to see Hamas destroyed by Israel. It funded and
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  Speaker 2: armedy Hesbela terrorists in Lebanon, only to have Hesbela's entire
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  Speaker 2: leadership wiped out in just two weeks. So Iran finally
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  Speaker 2: had to step up all lose face. But eve Israel
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  Speaker 2: has already won even before it hits back first, because
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  Speaker 2: Iran is now being exposed as the puppet master in
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  Speaker 2: this war waged by Isamus groups against Israel. Our leaders
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  Speaker 2: cannot now keep acting like Iran is just a spectator here.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for a mister penny one. She's probably been
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  Speaker 2: criticized Iran only a couple of times this year, but
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  Speaker 2: criticize Israel constantly.
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  Speaker 1: Soul Israel's fault.
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  Speaker 2: There's a war second, It's now clear that this war
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  Speaker 2: in Israel is little to do with justice for Palestinians.
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  Speaker 2: Iran it is calling the main shots, and he wants
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  Speaker 2: Israel wiped off the map. It's a preme leader told
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  Speaker 2: the mass leader now dead, that he wanted Israel destroyed,
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  Speaker 2: removed from the river to the sea.
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  Speaker 1: Iran would never.
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  Speaker 2: Accept the peace deal that let Israel live. And third,
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  Speaker 2: is Iran is now exposed. This week, the only person
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  Speaker 2: killed by missile attack was the fact of Palestinian killed
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  Speaker 2: in the West Bank by falling debuts. There's something symbolic
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  Speaker 2: right there, but it is true Jew's work last night.
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  Speaker 2: Seven of them, but they were shot dead by Muslim
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  Speaker 2: terrorists were then themselves killed. But Iran's failure proves again
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  Speaker 2: that Iran cannot match Israeli technology.
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  Speaker 1: And lastly, Israel has now sent a.
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  Speaker 2: Message to the world that it cannot be attacked as
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  Speaker 2: it was on October seven by Hamas, not without its enemies.
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  Speaker 2: Paying a terrible price and being feared makes Israel safer
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  Speaker 2: than being pitied. And Israel says it's yet to strike
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  Speaker 2: back at Iran.
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  Speaker 3: Iran made a major mistake this evening, and it will
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  Speaker 3: pay for it. The regime in Iran just doesn't understand
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  Speaker 3: our determination to defend ourselves and our determination to retaliate
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  Speaker 3: to our enemies.
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  Speaker 2: A tip, Iran's nuclear bomb project must now be Israel's
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  Speaker 2: target number one. If I was working on that bomb,
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  Speaker 2: I'd get the hell out of there, so Israel wins
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  Speaker 2: and Iran loss, which is the only result that makes
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  Speaker 2: the West safer too. But does our Prime minister understand
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  Speaker 2: any of this? Instead, Anthony Albanezi today exposed himself as
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  Speaker 2: unfit for office. He gave a disastrous press conference today
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  Speaker 2: hours after that uranium missile attack, and three days after
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  Speaker 2: we had anti Israel protests in our own streets waving
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  Speaker 2: terrorist flags, the yellow flag of Hesbalah. Now I want
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  Speaker 2: to show you some of what Albanezei said today, because
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  Speaker 2: not only was it a disgrace, it was made worse
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  Speaker 2: by the contrast with what opposite to leader Peter Dunton
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  Speaker 2: said in his own press conference this morning. You compare
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  Speaker 2: and contrast and ask yourself which leader sees what's at
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  Speaker 2: stake as an alliance of tyrannies Iran, Russia, China now
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  Speaker 2: wages a new World war on democracies Ukraine, Israel and
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  Speaker 2: soon Taiwan. Which of them these two leaders can now
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  Speaker 2: see that this is a battle to save Western civilization
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  Speaker 2: that has also come to Australia. Let's start with Albinizi's
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  Speaker 2: astonishing refusal this morning to back Israel's brilliant counter attack
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  Speaker 2: of the past two weeks against the Hesbela terrorist army
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  Speaker 2: that had spent the past year firing nine thousand rockets
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  Speaker 2: and missiles into Israel.
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  Speaker 4: Does the Israel up and support its effort to take
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  Speaker 4: out Hasbela's infrastructure.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we regard Hesbela as a terrorist organization, as we
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  Speaker 5: regard Hamas as a terrorist organization. We have been working
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  Speaker 5: with like minded countries and issuing appropriate statements such as
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  Speaker 5: the one that I referred to.
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  Speaker 2: Did you notice albanis he couldn't bring himself to support
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  Speaker 2: Israel decapitating the leadership of the world's biggest terrorist army
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  Speaker 2: which has attacked Israel. It's murdered US soldiers, as assassinated
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  Speaker 2: elevenies Christian leaders. It killed even ninety people in Argentina
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  Speaker 2: when it bombed the Jewish cultural center there. But don't
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  Speaker 2: worry you hurt him has issued appropriate statements. What a relief,
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  Speaker 2: and he quoted one of them today when he was
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  Speaker 2: asked if he at least supported Israel now firing back
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  Speaker 2: at Iran after this huge missile attacked last night.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't even do that.
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  Speaker 5: Israel, of course, has a right to defend itself. What
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  Speaker 5: we have called for consistently is for a de escalation
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  Speaker 5: in the region of diplomacy, however, cannot succeed amid an
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  Speaker 5: escalation of this conflict.
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  Speaker 2: You notice how this government always calls for de escalation
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  Speaker 2: just after Israel is attacked, just when it's preparing to
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  Speaker 2: hit back at terrorists.
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  Speaker 1: De escalate.
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  Speaker 2: Funny that and why he is Alban is he blathering
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  Speaker 2: about giving more diplomacy a chance. How does he think
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  Speaker 2: diplomacy would have worked with Hespola's leader, Hassan Nothrella, who
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  Speaker 2: Israel killed last week? Doesreela called Israel an aggressive, illegal
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  Speaker 2: and illegitimate entity, which he said had no future in
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  Speaker 2: our land. How does albanies he think the plomacy would
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  Speaker 2: have worked with Iran's top military commander in Lebanon, who
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  Speaker 2: once gloated that it was his ultimate dream to destroy Israel.
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  Speaker 1: As she said that, you kid, it's n Charlot to shows.
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  Speaker 2: This is how many is he think those guys Iran
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  Speaker 2: Supreme leader they're all kidding when they say they really
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  Speaker 2: do want Israel destroyed? Does he really think Israel can
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  Speaker 2: negotiate with such terrorists? Now Israel, you know they've worked
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  Speaker 2: out in fact, no negotiating with people like that it's
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  Speaker 2: either kill or be killed And to all this, how
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  Speaker 2: many he seems blind so often criticizing Israel instead, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: is how many is He admitted today he haven't even
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  Speaker 2: contacted Iran's ambassador to protest that this missile attack on Israel.
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  Speaker 6: Have you had any contact with the Irangan and dusted
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  Speaker 6: up following those strikes over night?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I've been here in Melbourne, so no, I have not.
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  Speaker 1: Is He answered.
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  Speaker 2: No, he couldn't because he's been here in Melbourne and
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  Speaker 2: as you know, Melbourne doesn't have telephones. I mean no,
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  Speaker 2: it hadn't even occurred to him to tear a strip
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  Speaker 2: off Iran's ambassador. But like I said, the contrast with
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  Speaker 2: Peter Dunton this morning is what made albaniz He look
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  Speaker 2: even worse. Here is done in this morning answering the
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  Speaker 2: very question did he support Israel's attack on Hezbollah and
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  Speaker 2: putting it in the right context.
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  Speaker 4: Israel's been very clear that they're not going to be
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  Speaker 4: subject to attack, and nor should they be. They're a democracy,
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  Speaker 4: They're a society like ours. They believe in freedom of speech,
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  Speaker 4: they believe in adherence to the rule of law, adherence
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  Speaker 4: to the rule of international law, and to see them
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  Speaker 4: under attack would be no different than seeing the United
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  Speaker 4: States or the United Kingdom or Canada under attack, or
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  Speaker 4: France or Germany. And nothing was happening. On the sixth
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  Speaker 4: of October. To make this point, when Hamas decided to
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  Speaker 4: go in and slaughter twelve hundred people in the kibbutzers
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  Speaker 4: and at the music festival, it was an act of
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  Speaker 4: savage brutality. These people are terrorists and Israel has an absolute,
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  Speaker 4: undeniable right to protect and defend herself.
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  Speaker 2: One of these two leaders understands that we all in
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  Speaker 2: the West are in.
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  Speaker 1: A war for our values.
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  Speaker 2: They had democracies. The other guy is our Prime minister
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  Speaker 2: and so unworthy. Joining me from Jerusalem is Mark Sofer,
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  Speaker 2: who was Australia's Israel's ambassador to Australia.
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  Speaker 1: Mark, it's great to.
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  Speaker 2: See you again, Or mister ambassador, how did you spend
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  Speaker 2: last night with one hundred and eighty one Iranian missiles
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  Speaker 2: fight at Israel. I actually saw footage of some of
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  Speaker 2: them going right over your head.
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  Speaker 7: Well, like the other ten million Israelis, we went scurrying
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  Speaker 7: to the bomb shelters, where we spent an hour and
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  Speaker 7: a half waiting for the or two hours waiting for
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  Speaker 7: the all clear sign. And of course this was an
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  Speaker 7: attack of the highest of the worst order, imaginable, but thankfully,
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  Speaker 7: and I think we have to play our thanks where
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  Speaker 7: they are due. The Israeli Air Force air defense systems
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  Speaker 7: worked immediately, amazingly well. And despite one hundred and eighty
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  Speaker 7: of the more than one hundred and eighty missiles that
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  Speaker 7: rained down on instant civilians through the whole length and
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  Speaker 7: breadth of the country, not one person in Israel was killed.
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  Speaker 8: Thank God.
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  Speaker 2: It's astonishing. That is just so astonishing. But as you know,
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  Speaker 2: you can't ride that luck forever. I mean, there's skill too,
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  Speaker 2: but some of those missiles did hit. What does this
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  Speaker 2: attack tell you about the situation israels in and what
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  Speaker 2: Israel needs to do well?
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  Speaker 8: I think Andrew tells me two things.
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  Speaker 7: Number One is behind all the violence, hate, death and
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  Speaker 7: destruction in the Middle East and what we're facing since
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  Speaker 7: the seventh of October and actually before then, it lies
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  Speaker 7: the Iranian regime. They are masterminding, they are financing, they
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  Speaker 7: are arming almost every terrorist organization, every terrorist organization in
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  Speaker 7: the region, be it a mask is Ballah, the Hoots,
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  Speaker 7: in Yemen, the militias in Syria, Iraq, even as far
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  Speaker 7: as western Sahara. So whether the Iranian regime has its
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  Speaker 7: nefarious arm appointed that there is going to be death
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  Speaker 7: and destruction and butchery.
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  Speaker 8: So the regime really has to go.
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  Speaker 7: And I believe that the civilized international community actually does
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  Speaker 7: understand that. The second thing I would take from this
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  Speaker 7: is that Iran really does not understand the Israeli resolved. Now,
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  Speaker 7: we are very divided as far as the Israeli government
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  Speaker 7: is concerned. I myself am certainly no fan of it
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  Speaker 7: to use an understatement. And yet when it comes to
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  Speaker 7: an issue like this, when it comes to the attack
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  Speaker 7: that we had on innocent people with two almost two
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  Speaker 7: hundred missiles raining down on us, we are in a consensus,
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  Speaker 7: and we are in full resolve, and the resilience is
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  Speaker 7: normal and it's huge. And I can tell you that
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  Speaker 7: we are completely and utterly behind all of us, completely
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  Speaker 7: and utterly behind the result of self defense and the
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  Speaker 7: need to defend our population, our civilians from attacks of
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  Speaker 7: this horror.
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  Speaker 2: Have you any idea what Israel will now do? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know that Iran's been very close to finishing the
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  Speaker 2: building its first nuclear bomb Israel after seeing what's happened
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  Speaker 2: in the Lasi. You can't have that threat just over
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  Speaker 2: the border, a little over the border.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to be a target.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I can't and won't speak for the Nataniel government course, which,
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  Speaker 7: as I said earlier, not exactly in favor of However,
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  Speaker 7: clearly there must be a response. There will be a response,
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  Speaker 7: and nobody thinks otherwise here at all. I think what's
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  Speaker 7: important if you ask me what should happen, is that
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  Speaker 7: a collateral damage on Iranian civilians should be limited to
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  Speaker 7: us on the minimum possible, and that the targets be
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  Speaker 7: the Iranian regime and the Urian facilities be it what.
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  Speaker 7: I won't rule out nuclear ones, but there are other
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  Speaker 7: facilities as well. There are oil facilities of which Iranian
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  Speaker 7: economy is based, there are the government infrastructure there, et cetera,
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  Speaker 7: et cetera. So I won't really put a finger on it,
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  Speaker 7: basically because I can't. I don't think anybody really except
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  Speaker 7: for the pals that be who are commanding it in
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  Speaker 7: the military and know what will happen and when. However,
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  Speaker 7: I would think that it's certainly upmost in their minds
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  Speaker 7: to limit casualties on the Ranian population, which, as you know,
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  Speaker 7: is vehemently and overwhelmingly against the primitive and the medieval
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  Speaker 7: regime which is occupying them.
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  Speaker 8: There's no other words to use.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I think the young of Iran Israel's greatest the allies
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  Speaker 2: in this war, and they cannot be turned against Israel
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  Speaker 2: by any misdirected reprisals. Look, you're familiar with Australia. There
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  Speaker 2: have been any calls from our government for Israel to
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  Speaker 2: de escalate and to negotiate. So much criticism of Israel
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  Speaker 2: at the UN last week. It's just throughout the year
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  Speaker 2: ken Israel in fact negotiation and it's almost, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: no criticism of Iran. A couple of criticisms, but very few.
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  Speaker 2: Can Israel really negotiate peace with enemies like Hisbellah Hamas Iran,
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  Speaker 2: or negotiate without first firing back?
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  Speaker 8: Well, well, I will make two points here.
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  Speaker 7: Perhaps the second you may not agree with Andrew, but
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  Speaker 7: I think that as far as negotiating with the terrorist
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  Speaker 7: entities like Hamas and Pisabella, it's a little bit like
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  Speaker 7: negotiating with iss or al KaiA. What what do you
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  Speaker 7: negotiate about? They are dedicated that one hundred percent of
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  Speaker 7: this destruction of the state of Israel. So what are
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  Speaker 7: we supposed to just to negotiate with them over the
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  Speaker 7: speed of our destruction, the method our destruction. With these
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  Speaker 7: type of fanatical terrorists Islamist rather than Islamic Islamist killers,
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  Speaker 7: there's not anything.
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  Speaker 8: To negotiate about.
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  Speaker 7: And I put aside for a moment the only issue
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  Speaker 7: that we really should come to an agreement with which
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  Speaker 7: is over a temperar, which is over the hostage issue,
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  Speaker 7: which they are still holding one hundred and one innocent
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  Speaker 7: Israelis in tunnels and caves and under the awful conditions.
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  Speaker 7: And so as far as the Hamas and Chris Balan
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  Speaker 7: the other terrorists concern, there's nothing to negotiate about. However,
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  Speaker 7: I do think, and here as I said, you may
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  Speaker 7: not agree. I do think that we need to put
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  Speaker 7: some form of political horizon on the agenda, not only Israel,
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  Speaker 7: I think the international community and the moderate Arab world.
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  Speaker 7: And that is because despite the fact that military force
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  Speaker 7: has to be used in circumstances like we are in
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  Speaker 7: facing such horror and butchery of in our neighboring surroundings,
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  Speaker 7: I think think that force alone may not win the day,
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  Speaker 7: and we have to address the ultimate threat, which is Iran,
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  Speaker 7: and the way to do that is to forge an alliance,
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  Speaker 7: a region alliance with the forward looking Arab countries against
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  Speaker 7: Iran's proxies which have to be destroyed, but also to
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  Speaker 7: work together to really to bring the Iranian regime to
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  Speaker 7: its needs, and that needs to be done.
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  Speaker 2: You're going, I don't know why you think I would
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  Speaker 2: disagree with that. I'm absolutely on board and in fact
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  Speaker 2: you as you know, the Hamass attack on Israel was
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  Speaker 2: just on the brink of Israel forging a historic relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Saudi Arabia, and I think this is the way
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  Speaker 2: to go.
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  Speaker 1: But you can only do it from.
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  Speaker 8: Position I didn't say you will not.
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  Speaker 7: I think you may not, and I'm glad here that
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  Speaker 7: that's We're in a great one as well.
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  Speaker 2: Now I totally agree with you. Always great to catch
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  Speaker 2: up with you. Thank you so much for your time.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: It's just astonishing to me that Anthony Abernezi today couldn't
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  Speaker 2: even say you support Israel striking back against the run
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  Speaker 2: after that missile attack.
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  Speaker 1: No, he said, de escalate.
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  Speaker 5: Israel of course has a right to defend itself. What
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  Speaker 5: we have called for consistently is for a de escalation
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  Speaker 5: in the region of diplomacy, however, cannot succeed amid an
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  Speaker 5: escalation of this conflict.
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  Speaker 2: But even US President Joe Barden, you know, he's been
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  Speaker 2: weak on Iran, terribly weak, but even he was backing
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  Speaker 2: Israel in striking back.
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  Speaker 4: The United States is fully, fully, fully supportive.
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  Speaker 2: Of Israel joining me is Ron Dene and for the
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  Speaker 2: Spectator's threatning hosts of outsiders on Sky News every Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: At nine am Rowan.
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  Speaker 2: It's this is astonishing, the Albaniezi government Australia splitting with
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  Speaker 2: the United States on whether to back Israel fighting back
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  Speaker 2: against the massive missile attack from a terrorist sponsoring state.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, did you ever think you to get to this?
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  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, always did think it would get to this
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  Speaker 9: because the Alberanesi government, epitomized by Penny Wong as our
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  Speaker 9: foreign Minister, is an absolute joke. It was a joke
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  Speaker 9: from the moment it was elected. There was a joke
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  Speaker 9: on foreign affairs from the moment it was elected, as
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  Speaker 9: I said at the time, since it's come as a
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  Speaker 9: surprise to other people since then. But This is what
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  Speaker 9: happens when you take a group of undergraduate students from
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  Speaker 9: the eighties, from our miserable universities dottled around the country
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  Speaker 9: and put them into power and government in mirored in
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  Speaker 9: left wing, turgid thinking from twenty thirty years ago. So
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  Speaker 9: you have Anthony Albenezi banging on about de escalation and
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  Speaker 9: cease fires and Penny Wang going on about, you know,
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  Speaker 9: basically the same thing, saying that there needs to be
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  Speaker 9: a two state solution and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 9: The solution is completely the opposite of what Anthony Albernezian
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  Speaker 9: Penny Wog prescribe the old fashioned left wing undergraduate thinking
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  Speaker 9: is that you resolve the Palestine issue and then suddenly,
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  Speaker 9: magically peace comes to the Middle East. The reality, as
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  Speaker 9: your previous guests kind of hinted at, I think he
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  Speaker 9: got some of it wrong as well, was the reality
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  Speaker 9: is you destroy the Iranian regime and peace will come
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  Speaker 9: to the Middle East through an Israeli Saudi alliance. Now
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  Speaker 9: Benjamin Ettna who hinted at that in his speech and
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  Speaker 9: hinted at the fact Shane Penniwong didn't bother to go
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  Speaker 9: to the speech after lecturing Israel. She apparently didn't actually
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  Speaker 9: bother to listen to Netanyahu's speech. Had she, she would
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  Speaker 9: have learned that peace in the Middle East will come
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  Speaker 9: through an Israeli Saudi alliance that the other Gulf states
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: will join and the rest of the Middle East will
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: join in. But absolutely fundamental to that, the Iranian regime
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: must be removed, and it won't be removed through international alliances.
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  Speaker 1: As your previous guest said.
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  Speaker 9: That's nonsense, that's wishful thinking. It will be removed the
• 20:59
  Speaker 9: same way as has been removed and Hermas has been
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: removed the Israelis. And I guarantee you it's going to
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: happen pretty soon now. And Nettaya, who pretty much said
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: as much the other day, they are going to take
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: out the Iranian regime. They're going to destroy the Iotolers
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: because that is the only way you can bring peace
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: to the Middle East. The Iotolers must go. They must
• 21:18
  Speaker 9: have been destroyed, killed militarily through an Israeli stripe. That
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: is what will happen, Andrew. And it's going to happen
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: very very soon because the Israelis have a lot of time.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: They now have to do that.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, i'd likely to be that easy. But I think
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: that regime has got tentacles on a lot of weaponry
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: and all that.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: So we shall see.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And you can't start bombing the young in any way
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: because they are the ally here.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Now, there is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: One thing the people are probably for the regime to go.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are, they are. We've seen it.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We've seen that, the protests on the street and how
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: many of them getting murdered by the regime. Now, Rowan,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: there is one issue that I am worried about that
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: they don't think. I see ida I here with both
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Albanezi and Peter Dutton. Both of them are saying the
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: protests planned by Propalacinian radicals on Monday, which is the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: anniversary of the mass slaughter of twelve hundred Jews last
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: October seven, that it should be banned. The protest is disgusting,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it is disgraceful, and it may be dangerous. Maybe you
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: should be banned for that reason. But should it be
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: banned I mean free speech?
• 22:33
  Speaker 9: Rowan, Well, I think that's to confuse free speech and
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: mass protests, and the two things are very very different. Now,
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: if any single individual from the Hezbolla loving Hamas loving
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: community wants to go out on a soapbox in speakers
• 22:51
  Speaker 9: corner in Hyde Park, stand up by themselves and explain
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: their thinking and their reasoning and their belief system. Fantastic,
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: Go and do it. Is what free speech is all about.
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: I bet they don't have the courage to, but anyway,
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: that is what free speech is all about. Mass protests,
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: rallies where you use large groups of people shouting political
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: slogans has nothing to do with free speech. That is intimidation.
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: It's Hitler youth style, Nazis style, the communist style, intimidation.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Of the masses.
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: And this is what we are seeing nothing to do.
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: Free speech does not entitle you to say gas the Jews,
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: or where there's where's the Jews or whatever it is
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: now in an environment where there are Jewish people and
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: it's so until we arrest protest.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Yes they were policed properly, right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Yes, yes, but where they haven't policed them properly and
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: they didn't arrest a single individual from the previous event.
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: So those delegitimize themselves. They have shown they are not
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: worthy of being given the freedoms that we normally get
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: to mass protests. They have shown they're a political movement
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: that is above the law, believes itself to be above
• 24:05
  Speaker 9: the law until our politicians and our police forces say it.
• 24:08
  Speaker 9: Stand up and say I'm sorry. You broke the rules.
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: We allowed you your mass protests, but you use it
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: to intimidate the Jewish population of this country and to
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: threaten people. You cannot do that. You therefore cannot protest. Again,
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: pretty simple, by the rules of the civilized society. Then
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: you can keep them, Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Well, totally absolutely out. They have to be policed like
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: they haven't been policed. You don't stand here blocking the traffic.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: You stand in a park blocking nobody. We have got
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: to have a total revamp of how these things are police.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: But when we start picking and choosing which protests to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: be banned, I think we're in a real slippery slope.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: We really are, and I worry about this.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Rondine. Let's debate this further.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: When you'll be able to say you were right when
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: you see what happen it was on Monday. I think
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: we're seeing a boy that rowan case Vietnam. After the
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: break another fine mess that energy messter Chris Bonus got
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: us into another electric car goes up in smoke. I'll
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: get onto the electric cars in a minute. But I
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: have to stick with this. I've got to say it
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: because today was such a dark day for this country
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and its values. It's just shocked me our government turning
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: its back on a fellow democracy, an ally that last
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: night had one hundred and eighty one missiles farighted it
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: by a terrorist entity. Joining me is the panel Michael Costa,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: former New South Wales Labor Treasurer and Garth Hamilton federal
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Liberal MP. Michael the Prime Minister's press performance at his
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: press conference today, refusing to say even if you backed
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: this for our striking acuity, run still calling for Israel
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: to negotiate with terrorists. What on earth has happened to him?
• 26:07
  Speaker 10: It just shows the moral bankruptcy of this government. It
• 26:10
  Speaker 10: is absolutely appalling. I mean they're putting their personal political
• 26:15
  Speaker 10: interest that is those western suburb seats and those seats
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: that have ethnic minorities that they want to appease against
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: ahead of the national interests and that is pathetic. I mean,
• 26:26
  Speaker 10: as you said, Andrew, a one hundred and eighty ballistic missiles.
• 26:29
  Speaker 10: Those missiles, of course are capable of carrying nuclear warheads
• 26:32
  Speaker 10: and thank goodness, Ran doesn't have those at the moment
• 26:35
  Speaker 10: it appears, and what's our response a ceasefire? What a
• 26:40
  Speaker 10: ridiculous position. You are being attacked in a way that
• 26:44
  Speaker 10: no other country has been attacked in history, and they're
• 26:48
  Speaker 10: calling for a ceasefire. They are morally bankrupt, They're on
• 26:51
  Speaker 10: the wrong side of the argument. Thank Heavens for Israel's
• 26:54
  Speaker 10: standing up for the values of the West, and unfortunately
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: our government is wanting on this. Even Joe Biden, in
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: his late demented state, said very strong things in support
• 27:07
  Speaker 10: of Israel. I mean, whether he follows through or not
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: is another matter. But you know, this reminds me of
• 27:12
  Speaker 10: the Second World War, the early part where Britain stood
• 27:14
  Speaker 10: alone against the evils of Nazism.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: We've seen this with Israel.
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: Israel's doing the same thing and nobody's supporting them.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I had exactly the same sentiment this morning, and with
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: you know, America playing that isolationist game that we saw
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of World War Two as well.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Garth.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Look, it's a powerful and damaging political point to say
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: it's all about the Muslim vote in western Sydney. But
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: I wonder now, because this must be so damaging to
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the labor wider vote. People have seen through this that
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to think, you know, is there some sort
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: of blind spot here? Is it an animist of genuine
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: animist to Israel is a total ignorance of the mindset
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: of terrorists?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: What is it? Look, Andrew?
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: I really hate to think that this is purely being
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: done along political lines or for political gain.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Sadly, I think Michael is right.
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: There is a blind spot here, and that's what's right
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: and what's wrong. This is a very sad day. We
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: have turned our back. We've decided not to stand beside
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: Israel whilst it is facing an incredible threat.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: That's bad enough.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: We've also departed from the stance of our closest ally,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: the United States on this one. And as was pointed out,
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: Joe Biden did the right thing, said the right thing.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: We should be.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Able to stand with Israel while it dismantles the military
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: apparatus that is currently firing missiles on it as we speak.
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: No doubt there was missiles being fired, Andrew, during my
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: trip to Israel from that northern border. This has been
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: a constant issue for the Israelis.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: Why this Albanezi government can't see that the right thing
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: to do, the right thing to do at this point
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: in time is stand beside our Israeli allies.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's just I find it profoundly shocking. But let's
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: switch the Albanize of government's screen energy plans. Will talk
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: about something also totally irrational, totally damaging to the national interests,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: their energy plans. Michael Costs just getting into worse, worse strife.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Energy Mister Chris Bowen has got new emission standards, as
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: you know, the forces to buy more electric cars, just
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: when one went up in flames in Melbourne yesterday, destroyed
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the garage, blamed on a bad charger. In the US
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and other electric car tesla went up in flames after
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: getting flood in the hurricane there. The governor of Florida's
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: residents actually, if you expect a flood or a taclone,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: go and park your car on a hill. And now
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: the head of the NRMA here back in Australia, it
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: says you've got to check ev batteries in roadworthy tests,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: even though we're told so there's only been six electric
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: vehicle car fires here, which might explain by Bowen is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: having to give up his target of having electric cars
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: making up eighty nine percent of a new car sales
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: of just six years from now. I mean, Michael, everywhere
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you look, Chris bones, green schemes are a disaster.
• 30:19
  Speaker 10: They are a complete disaster. And let's be clear here.
• 30:24
  Speaker 10: Evs are not green. Let's let's make the fundamental point
• 30:28
  Speaker 10: that's being missed in all this virtue signaling. When you
• 30:30
  Speaker 10: manufacture one of these things, particularly the batteries, that's completely ungreen.
• 30:35
  Speaker 10: The only time these vehicles have any green component to
• 30:39
  Speaker 10: them is when they're drawing on renewables, and we know
• 30:41
  Speaker 10: they don't do that all the time because they're not
• 30:43
  Speaker 10: a consistent source of energy. When you dispose of these things,
• 30:46
  Speaker 10: you've got all sorts of environmental problems with it. So
• 30:49
  Speaker 10: the target was ridiculous to start with. Australians are going
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: to resist greens, green vehicles, electric vehicles, No man of
• 30:57
  Speaker 10: subsidies is going to compensate for their inconvenience, and they're
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: in practicality and another Bowen disaster and we're seeing them
• 31:04
  Speaker 10: all over the place.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: We sure are garth. I mean, this never made sense.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: It seemed impossible, and as Michael pointed out, I mean
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: you're hooking up these electric cars to assist them. That
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: runs predominantly on colon gas anyway.
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: And we'll continue to run on coal and gas for
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: quite some time. Looked labor Green and the teals all
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: together just seem obsessed with telling Australians what to do.
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: I don't think Australians take too kindly to being told
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: what type of car to buy. I was thinking about this, Andrew.
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: My first car was an XD Falcon. It was about
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: sixteen years old by the time I got it. As
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: big boxy Falcon if you remember, the type looked like
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: a cardboard box. I didn't get it because the way
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: it looked or anything about it. I got it because
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: of what I could afford. And in a cost of
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: living crisis, for a government's focus to be on forcing
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: one type of vehicle, a more expensive type of vehicle,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: by the way, on Australians is absolutely out of touch
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: with what most people are going through. We should be
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: supporting Australians and the choices that they make right across
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: the board, particularly in this selection of cars.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Marchel cosa running out of tun But I've got
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: to ask you quickly about this. The AVEDIZI government did
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: have good news today. From now on, people on the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: National Disability Insurance Scheme won't be able to get taxpays
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: to pay for prostitutes, cutle therapy, cruisers, chamaic healing, aroma therapy,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: tarot cars, clearvoyance, among many other things. But reading this list,
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I have to ask, Michael, why do tax pays ever
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: have to pay for that kind of stuff?
• 32:45
  Speaker 10: Absolutely the right question. Shonky treatments from a shonky system.
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: Let's be clear, this is not the worst part of
• 32:52
  Speaker 10: this system. And the government's focused on the fraud and
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: now we're focusing on the shonky treatments. But the inefficiencies
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: is what's killing this system. You know, I have a
• 33:02
  Speaker 10: personal experience from people that have gone into these schemes,
• 33:05
  Speaker 10: and the management fees are astronomical thirty forty percent of
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: the package. And you've got tradings, you know, hard to
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: get now because they're all chasing NDS dollars because there's
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: so much money in it. So you've got inefficiency, broad
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: and inappropriate policies. The whole scheme should be scrapped and
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: started again.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: It's so true when you think of the real need
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: that needs to be addressed there, Garth Hamilton, Michael Costa,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: thank you very much for your time. After the break
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the debate, debarkle of Kamala Harris's running mate.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Caught out laying and I'm a knuckleheader. Well, this disaster
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: helped get Donald Trump collected.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That's a mouthwards of the debate between Donald Trump and
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Kamala Harris where Trump had to fight both Harris and
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: the two moderators.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: This morning.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: It was a turn of their running mates and Trump's
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: guy JD. Events, Tora Pott. Harris is one Michigan governor
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Tim Wolves. I'll show you some highlights. Well started nervously
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: when asked what him do if Israel struck back and
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: he ran, and he gave just biography and blead.
• 34:15
  Speaker 11: Would you support or oppose a pre emptive strike by
• 34:19
  Speaker 11: Israel on Iran? You have two minutes.
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  Speaker 12: Well, thank you and thank you for those joining you
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: home tonight. Let's keep in mind where that started. October seventh,
• 34:28
  Speaker 12: Homosh terrorists massacred over fourteen hundred Israelis and took prisoners.
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: I ran our Israel's ability to be able to defend
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: itself as absolutely fundamental getting its hostages back fundamental and
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: ending the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Jdi Vance also then gave biography. Wolves was talking later
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: in that answer about his middle class upbringing. Vance Trump
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: didn he grew up much poorer. This did answer the
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: question he would back Israel.
• 35:04
  Speaker 13: I was raised in a working class family. My mother
• 35:06
  Speaker 13: required food assistants for periods of her life. My grandmother
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: required social Security help to raise me, and she raised
• 35:12
  Speaker 13: me in part because my own mother struggled with addiction.
• 35:14
  Speaker 13: It is up to Israel what they think they need
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: to do to keep their country safe, and we should
• 35:19
  Speaker 13: support our allies wherever they are when they're fighting the
• 35:22
  Speaker 13: bad guys.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Vance naturally owned the debate over the millions of legal
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: immigrants slid in and the Vice president Kamala Harris, who
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: supposedly the board it's are and ask the knockout question
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: when will's told about all the good things Kamala Harris
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: would now give voters if only she was made president.
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: She's been the vice president for three and a half years.
• 35:44
  Speaker 13: She had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies,
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: and what she's actually done instead is drive the cost
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: of food higher by twenty five percent, drive the cost
• 35:54
  Speaker 13: of housing higher by about sixty percent, open the American
• 35:58
  Speaker 13: southern border, and make middle class life unaffordable for a
• 36:01
  Speaker 13: large number of Americans. If Kamala Harris has such great
• 36:04
  Speaker 13: plans for how to address middle class problems, then she
• 36:07
  Speaker 13: ought to do them now.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Then we'll totally fell apart when he was confronted with
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: his lightest lie.
• 36:15
  Speaker 11: Governor Walls, you said you were in Hong Kong during
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: the deadly Tianamen Square protests in the spring of nineteen
• 36:22
  Speaker 11: eighty nine, but Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: are reporting that you actually didn't travel to Asia until
• 36:30
  Speaker 11: August of that year. Can you explain that discrepancy?
• 36:34
  Speaker 12: Yeah, well, and the folks out there, it didn't get
• 36:36
  Speaker 12: at the top of this. Look, I grew up in small,
• 36:39
  Speaker 12: rural Nebraska town of four hundred town that you rode
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: your bike with your buddies till the street lights come on,
• 36:45
  Speaker 12: and I'm proud of that service. I joined the National
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: Guard at seventeen, worked on family farms, and then I
• 36:51
  Speaker 12: use the GI bill to become a teacher. Look, I
• 36:54
  Speaker 12: will be the first to tell you I have poured
• 36:56
  Speaker 12: my heart into my community. I've tried to do the
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: best I can but not been perfect. And I'm a
• 37:01
  Speaker 12: knucklehead at times, but it's always been about that.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Just believe Jona means. John Hydereka, president of the Center
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: for American Progress and right for the wonderful Powerline blog.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: John HENDEREKUA, great to see you again. What do we
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: learn from this debate?
• 37:19
  Speaker 14: Well, Andrew, I think you can look at it in
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: two ways. The first is really just the big picture,
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: which of these guys made the better impression? Because going
• 37:28
  Speaker 14: into this debate, neither jd Vance nor Tim Walls was
• 37:32
  Speaker 14: widely known to the American public, So for most people
• 37:36
  Speaker 14: this is probably their first look at these two guys
• 37:39
  Speaker 14: in action. On that level, I don't think there's any
• 37:42
  Speaker 14: question but that jd Vance made the better impression. He
• 37:46
  Speaker 14: was obviously the more able man. Frankly, he came across
• 37:50
  Speaker 14: as very reasonable. He was relaxed, and I think was
• 37:54
  Speaker 14: relating well to the television audience. Tim Walls got off
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: to a really horrible start. I mean, he was nervous,
• 38:01
  Speaker 14: he was at times virtually incoherent. He got a little
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: stronger as the evening went on. But in terms of impression,
• 38:09
  Speaker 14: I don't think there's any question that jd Vance came
• 38:12
  Speaker 14: off better. But the reality, Andrew, is that nobody cares
• 38:16
  Speaker 14: too much about the vice presidential nominee. Is the real
• 38:20
  Speaker 14: targets tonight were Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I think both defended their side pretty well.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I mean well defended.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: Tim Mols went actually on the attack on Donald Trump
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: and hit all the marks on that one. But I
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: have to say that Jamie Vance blended the I don't
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: know why Donald Trump hasn't been so crispuded too. If
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: he said, she's been vice president for three and a
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: half years, you're promising all these wonderful things. Why isn't
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: she doing them right now? And I think what can
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you say to that?
• 38:58
  Speaker 14: Well, you know, Jennie Vanceys basic mission was to keep
• 39:01
  Speaker 14: reminding the voters over and over again that whether you
• 39:04
  Speaker 14: want to talk about the economy, whether you want to
• 39:06
  Speaker 14: talk about the border, whether you want to talk about
• 39:09
  Speaker 14: world peace, things were much better under Donald Trump than
• 39:13
  Speaker 14: they have been under Kamala Harris. And I think he
• 39:16
  Speaker 14: did a good job of that. He kept coming back
• 39:19
  Speaker 14: to those themes over and over and over again. And
• 39:22
  Speaker 14: it's undeniable the economy was better under Donald Trump than
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  Speaker 14: under the Biden Harris administration, the border was better. It
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  Speaker 14: was closed. Now it's open. World peace we had it
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  Speaker 14: under Donald Trump. This idea that Harris just apparently just
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  Speaker 14: fell off the turnip truck.
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  Speaker 15: You know, the fresh face.
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  Speaker 8: Who is she?
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  Speaker 15: Where's she been? You know, fresh start for America.
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  Speaker 14: I mean she's she's been at the Vice president for
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  Speaker 14: the last three and a half years.
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  Speaker 1: Now. I found it.
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  Speaker 2: Tim wils is probably his worst moment, apart from the start,
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  Speaker 2: which was bad enough, was when it was pulled up
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  Speaker 2: when it's a light to salive or misremembering, however you
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  Speaker 2: want to characterize it about him being in Hong Kong
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  Speaker 2: when Chinese soldiers were massacring students and gentlemen square. This
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  Speaker 2: of course adds, you know, add to that all the
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  Speaker 2: other mistakes or lies is told about having been in
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  Speaker 2: active service in a war zone, completely false, inflating the.
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  Speaker 1: Rank that he attained in the National Guard.
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  Speaker 2: What did you make of his his reasoning, his explanation
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  Speaker 2: that he was a knucklehead, very enthusiastic, trying his heart
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  Speaker 2: out for the community and sometimes misspoke.
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  Speaker 15: It was pathetic, Andrew.
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  Speaker 14: The peak moment, if you're a Republican, was going Tim
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  Speaker 14: Walls confessed to being a knucklehead. You know, I mean
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  Speaker 14: it could have been a lot worse for him, because,
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  Speaker 14: as you say, Andrew, he has he has told a
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  Speaker 14: lot of falsehoods. He has misrepresented his own history, and
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  Speaker 14: in a number of ways, all of them I would say,
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  Speaker 14: more important than where he was when Tianaman Square happened.
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  Speaker 14: That's actually probably his most minor misstatement, and I think
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  Speaker 14: he got off very easily well.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of the moderators, John, I tore my hair out
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  Speaker 2: at the last debate, the only the debate, Donald Trump
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  Speaker 2: versus Kamala Harris. The moderators were so hostile, continually fact
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  Speaker 2: checking Donald Trump, never fact checking the many more misstatements
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  Speaker 2: made by Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 1: Again that this happened here.
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  Speaker 2: These CBS moderators had promised not to fact check the
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  Speaker 2: two guys in front of them, but they did nevertheless
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  Speaker 2: try twice the correct JD.
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  Speaker 1: E vance.
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  Speaker 2: Only to his credit, he, unlike Donald Trump in his debate,
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  Speaker 2: took them on and made sure they didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Try it a third time.
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  Speaker 2: This was after he mentioned how Harris had led in
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  Speaker 2: millions of legal immigrants and thereby and those millions had
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  Speaker 2: swamped some cities of it.
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  Speaker 11: Just to clarify for our viewers, Springfield, Ohio does have
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  Speaker 11: a large number of Haitian migrants who have legal status
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  Speaker 11: temporary protected maura.
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  Speaker 15: But thank you, senator.
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  Speaker 11: We have so much to get to, Margaret.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's important to turn out of the economy.
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  Speaker 15: Thanks Margaret.
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  Speaker 13: The rules were that you got to be in a
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  Speaker 13: fact check, and since you're fact checking me, I think
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  Speaker 13: it's important to say what's actually going on.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks you, Senatoration of.
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  Speaker 13: A legal immigration Margaret Bye.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you senator for describing the legal process.
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  Speaker 15: Have so much to get to.
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  Speaker 12: The senator so much the book since nineteen ninety.
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  Speaker 11: Thank you, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 13: We want to have that has not been on the books.
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  Speaker 8: It's something that.
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  Speaker 11: Gentlemen, the audience can't hear you because your mics are cut.
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  Speaker 2: John, it was extraordinary, It was extraordinary, and JB Events
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  Speaker 2: absolutely showed them up. Has maybe a bus in the
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  Speaker 2: US E been this is explicit? This bad, this loaded
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  Speaker 2: and how will that affect the election?
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  Speaker 14: I think it's been this way for a long time. Andrew,
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  Speaker 14: I mean the moderators tonight. I think early on they
• 43:10
  Speaker 14: could see that Tim Wallas was in trouble he was
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  Speaker 14: doing a poor job. He needed a helping hand, and
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  Speaker 14: so they jumped in to try to give him a
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  Speaker 14: helping hand. And you're absolutely right. It was important for JD.
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  Speaker 14: Evans to stand up to them and rebut them so
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  Speaker 14: that they didn't keep doing it, and remind them of
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  Speaker 14: the rules they weren't supposed to be fact checking. We've
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  Speaker 14: been seeing this for years, Andrew.
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  Speaker 8: You know this.
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  Speaker 14: I mean CBS, CNN, NBC, you name it. These are
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  Speaker 14: Democratic Party outlets and they put their thumb on the
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  Speaker 14: scale in favor of the Democrats as much as they
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  Speaker 14: think they can get away with.
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  Speaker 2: John Honderenka, thank you so much in d for your
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: time and commentating on this the craziest US election I
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: have ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you Andrew.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: After the breakdown, missus. The ABC was yesterday accused of racism.
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  Speaker 2: Now watch it overcompensate with the longest acknowledgement of traditional
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  Speaker 2: learners I've ever seen in an interview with the ABC boss.
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  Speaker 1: Is it being punished?
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  Speaker 2: I told you last night the ABC was stupid to
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  Speaker 2: commission racism experts to check it out. After pampered star
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: stand Grant accused of not defending him from racist abuse. Naturally,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: this report concluded the ABC was full of racism and
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: now the ABC bosses have to jump through amazing hoops.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: Here's how an interview with ABC Managing Director David Anderson
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  Speaker 2: started with the knowledgeurans of country so long the direction
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  Speaker 2: had to cut out.
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  Speaker 1: Some of it.
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  Speaker 16: Welcome jinjawalla in the language of my ancestors, the Bungelong
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  Speaker 16: people of the far North Coast of New South Wales.
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  Speaker 16: Thank you Managing Director David Anderson for joining us here
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  Speaker 16: on this really momentous occasion. It's really significant that we
• 44:57
  Speaker 16: take the opportunity to step into this news space as
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  Speaker 16: I would like to call it, that's been created today
• 45:03
  Speaker 16: in recognition of that. Just acknowledging we're here today on
• 45:06
  Speaker 16: Gaeigle Country, paying respects to elders past and present.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me with Sophie Elsworth, media rater for the Australian. Sophie,
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  Speaker 2: you know, is that how every interview in the ABC
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  Speaker 2: is now going to start with the guests and the
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: hosts both having to give long welcomes and acknowledgments.
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  Speaker 17: Well, it certainly shouldn't be, Andrew, but I don't know
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  Speaker 17: how on earth they get their work done when they're
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  Speaker 17: doing interviews like this and having to spend several minutes
• 45:38
  Speaker 17: doing all the box ticking, doing acknowledgments of country, repeating
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  Speaker 17: what land they're on. This is where the ABC loses
• 45:47
  Speaker 17: listeners and they lose the audience. And I think many
• 45:50
  Speaker 17: people would see this as completely unnecessary. In that grab,
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  Speaker 17: and you've only played some of it, Andrew, they reference
• 45:58
  Speaker 17: the indigenous lands multiple times. They were almost tripping over
• 46:03
  Speaker 17: themselves with the amount of references they made, and I
• 46:06
  Speaker 17: think it's problematic for the viewer they tune out Andrew
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  Speaker 17: because they don't actually get to the point of what
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  Speaker 17: David Anderson was on there for, and that was to
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  Speaker 17: talk about the racism review itself.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was a bit of a flex
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: as well, you know, put lay a bit of a
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: guilt trip on the mentioned director to put him on
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: the back foot. I mean the whole thing to I
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: thought Chairman Kim Williams is not completely stupid.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I thought it was going to crack under this nonsense.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Here are some of this interview where it seems time
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: between corner the reporter beat up and saying how seriously
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: he takes it, just in case anyone starts calling him
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: races as well.
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  Speaker 10: I don't think anyone can read a report such as
• 46:46
  Speaker 10: this and feel comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: We need to put that in perspective.
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  Speaker 9: Ally, it's one hundred and twenty people in the staff
• 46:54
  Speaker 9: full time and part time of four thousand and seven hundred.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Not sure what Kim Williams is trying to say there,
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: that it's a beat up or that there's a big problem.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: What do you make of it?
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  Speaker 17: Well, I think he was a bit torn there, Andrew.
• 47:09
  Speaker 17: But let's just remind you, as this report was commissioned
• 47:13
  Speaker 17: in May last year. We are now in October. It
• 47:16
  Speaker 17: took them seventeen months to do this. Now, in any organization,
• 47:21
  Speaker 17: that seems an awfully long time. They seem to be
• 47:25
  Speaker 17: dragging their heels on it. And then it's had all
• 47:29
  Speaker 17: these damning findings. I mean, they're rolling out anti racism
• 47:33
  Speaker 17: training in the ABC now. They have so much bureaucracy
• 47:37
  Speaker 17: in there, I do think, and from people I have
• 47:40
  Speaker 17: spoken within the ABC, at times it makes the job
• 47:43
  Speaker 17: difficult to do because they have to meet so many
• 47:46
  Speaker 17: requirements with stories, making sure they reference different cultures and genders.
• 47:52
  Speaker 17: It makes their jobs, I would argue, quite difficult.
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Well, would you want to be a manager having to
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: tick off someone that identified as aboriginal or a culturally
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: diverse background.
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  Speaker 17: Well, it just makes it complicated, Andrew. Rather than reporting
• 48:10
  Speaker 17: the story and doing your job at hand, you're having
• 48:13
  Speaker 17: to go through these hoops to tick certain boxes. And
• 48:17
  Speaker 17: I think the ABC now has to go down the
• 48:20
  Speaker 17: road of implementing these fifteen recommendations. Some of them are
• 48:24
  Speaker 17: quite detailed, so there's an awful lot of work ahead
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  Speaker 17: of them.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the penalty of being woken. Meanwhile, Anthony Alberinezi was
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: wearing his ABC socks today in supportive I don't know
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: quite what, maybe ABC racism. I don't know, Lovely to
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: speak to you, Sophie.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: That's it from me, coming up now, Sherry Markson, good
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  Speaker 2: Night