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012 - Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2 E1 · Reality Hits Mat

• Michelle Harris: Welcome back to another episode of Reality Hits Matt. I'm your host, Michelle. And I'm Matt. Welcome back to season two, episode one recap of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Wow. Season two. Season two. Season one is in the books. It's done. It's done. It's been it's been done for a long time, but we're done with it. It has been. And I just want to say for any new viewers, ⁓ you are a new listener, You can also watch these full videos on YouTube now. So go ahead and take a look at those. Also, this is a podcast where I watch reality TV and my husband reacts. So Matt is my husband and he hates watching all things reality. Yeah, I don't watch any of this. I just listened to Michelle tell me about it and we make a podcast about it. So here we are. But I love the drama and he loves hearing about drama. So it works for us. it does. Hopefully you all enjoy listening and and subscribe wherever you listen to your podcasts. Yeah, we appreciate all our followers, our friends, ⁓ that we don't know that are listening, everybody. We appreciate it. But yeah, if you could like, subscribe, follow, rate, review, comment, anything that you can do on whatever platform you're listening on or watching on, we'd appreciate it. Yeah. So with that, we're going to get into today's episode. Season two, episode one is called the book of revelations. right. We're going to name all the books this season. Yes, I will keep up with it. And I don't, you better call me out on it. I'll have to make sure I pay attention and listen for me. So it starts with all the girls holding hands and in a voiceover, the girls are praying. So it says, Heavenly Father, we thank you for this day. And then it cuts to a clip of Taylor in a sexy cat costume yelling, fuck you. So it's like this really funny, like overlay of like really sweet and then really like drama. Interesting. OK. ⁓ So then it continues with the praying and it's going in and out and it says, please guide us so you can clear the air and get even closer. And then cut to Jen, you poke the bear, you get the claws. Is that, what she says. shows a quote from Taylor saying the truth will set you free. And then Taylor's crying says, and saying that there's more to the story. it's. ⁓ It's always like foreshadowing. I was going to say this sounds chaotic without seeing what's happening. It's very chaotic. It is like boom, boom, boom, like praying drama, praying drama, you know, cuts to a bunch of different scenes. Definitely a lot of foreshadowing for the coming season. OK. And so needless to say that this season is going to be very dramatic and. It goes from cops to Whitney giving birth to topless pool parties to husbands fighting to stripper pools. So all of these scenes are like within the first minute or so of this episode. So it's really setting up this like chaotic. Amount of energy for the rest of the show and the rest of the season, OK? It shows the headlines and news stories saying that the girls received a lot of backlash from the church. And it affected their reputation after the season one premiere in the church. ⁓ so I know there was a lot of talk last season, the Chippendales, all that stuff. Yeah. The drinking. ⁓ So a good look. The biggest thing for the Mormon church, the LDS church that they said was that it was a fictitious representation of their religion. OK. And so they're saying that this was all hyped up for reality TV and that this whole patriarchy thing and the views of the Mormon church, like, were very skewed in this reality TV. So the girls got painted in a bad light within the church itself. OK. I mean, everything's hyped up for reality TV. ⁓ absolutely. But if you're truly like Jen is, you would kind of think that maybe that's. Not the best thing, especially if her whole family is very religious. So right. Right. She's probably trying to maybe. Overcorrect this episode, I will say. Yeah. OK. So without getting into too much, think the Mormonist one is going to be more Mormon than she was already Mormon. Maybe there maybe they're just showing more of her this episode than they have in past episodes because of her drama with her husband at Vegas, but. it seems like it's almost like ⁓ heightened. OK. So with some of the things that were said, in my opinion. So we have a new intro. And in this new intro, I realize that we have a new girl. OK, so there's a new. Mom talk secret lives of Mormon wives, Mormon wives. Who is it? So her name is Miranda, but we'll get more into her in the first. I think Sylvia and you mentioned it. Yes. During our season one recap. And I was like, the hell is Miranda? She's coming in this season. Miranda has entered the chat. OK. Whitney left the chat. Miranda entered the chat. Well, she's not in it yet, but we'll get to that. But she's trying to make her way into the chat. All right. Is Whitney still out of the chat? Whitney is still out of the chat, but still in the show. the show. OK. Interesting. So the new intro is very interesting. It has all the girls emerging from water and they're like back their hair. Okay. And it's very supposed to be like sexy looking. and then it shows a bunch of different hashtags. it's hashtag Mormons, hashtag, tradwives, hashtag soaking, hashtag, polygamy, hashtag swinging. so it has like, and it's like, it's like all these three and it's like, Girl in water hashtags, girl in water hashtags. So it's like, it's kind of mimics that intro where it's like very chaotic. Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ so was a little overwhelming, to say the least that I was like, there's a lot going on here. They definitely want you to feel like things are chaotic. Things are out of control. There's a lot of drama, which leads into the first with Taylor and the producers are asking how Taylor's life has been. And Taylor says, just says, well, this will be freeing. So she has a lot to say. She has a lot to get off her chest. Right. Right. and then it stops from there. So it kind of keeps you intrigued. So this whole beginning kind of like. Just as a lot to handle until it cuts to the first, like real scene with all the girls. Do we have any idea? Timeline wise the end of season one to now in the beginning of season two. The ⁓ timeline indication that I could get was Whitney's pregnancy. OK. So we ended on Whitney announcing her pregnancy with the piss filled cake with the piss filled cake. So cuts to her being almost eight months pregnant. OK, so there's a good bit of time has passed. It could be a little bit of time. think it might have been closer to six months because I think probably when Whitney announced that to her family on TV, she was probably closer to like. Right. Right. OK. Somewhere between the six and eight month mark, they had like a gap between season one and season two. Yeah. OK. That seems reasonable. Whitney is heavily pregnant. ⁓ jeez. Is this going to be like Taylor all over? No, no, I pregnant through the whole season. If she is pregnant through the whole season, that means this whole entire 10 episode arc is over four weeks because this lady is about to give birth. I don't know what this show. Who knows? Taylor is pregnant for like four years. No, we saw her at five months for a baby shower. Whitney is far past what Taylor was at at that point. OK. so it cuts to the first real scene with all the girls and it's ⁓ it's a Gracie Lou influencer event and it's a cowboy pills event. ⁓ all the influencers, no clue what you're talking about. I don't even know what I'm talking about. ⁓ All right. ⁓ on the same page. They keep saying cowboy pills event throughout this whole episode. I'm just going to keep calling it the influencer event because I cannot. Gracie Lou cowboy pills. don't know what any of that means. So sorry if anyone's a fan of whatever that is, but they go to this influencer event or a bunch of influencers from Utah or around the area are there. cowboy themed and it shows Jen, Jessie, Demi, Michaela, Macy and Layla showing up to this event. The girls are all dressed in cowboy gear ⁓ Macy says that it's kicking off her favorite holiday, which is Halloween. OK, but it looks warm as fuck. Which I'm from New England, guys. Halloween is supposed to be fall. Halloween is supposed to be like at on a nice day in the 60s. That's a very nice day. That was very nice. No, I had suits sometimes. Yeah, we were trick or treating in the snow sometimes. Yeah. Matt and all the time, but sometimes it was pretty cold. Matt and I are very of the opinion that Halloween is fall. These girls were wearing booty shorts and tank tops and show and skin. And I'm like, I feel like I'm at a beach somewhere. This is not Halloween. the girls are riding mechanical bull. And then it cuts back to the Taylor interview. ⁓ Taylor says that the last few months have been a blur, but mom talk has grown a lot. Macy says that they have been seeing other mom groups created ⁓ creating their own mom talk groups was just crazy, but exciting. Okay. And Layla says that she loves what Mom Talk is doing right now, which is trying to modernize the church. Okay. Demi says that they helped move the needle in the way that Mom Talk intended to when it comes to the patriarchy. So I wrote, ⁓ them going to really solved the patriarchy. It did, ⁓ yeah. We talked about They said that it would solve all the problems. ⁓ When some of the girls opted out, Demi said this isn't going to help with the patriarchy. Maybe she was right. Maybe if those three girls went, everything would be. not just within the church, but like worldwide. Worldwide. Yeah, Sorry. That sounds really bad. In between all the interviews and the girls talking, they're showing articles about how secret lives Mormon wives are changing the Mormon culture. So Michaela says that her brand deals way up and she that ⁓ one of her brand deals is her husband's yearly ⁓ wow. And so. She says that her husband now is 100 percent stay at home he's loving it. ⁓ I mean, good for them. Like, yeah, that's a of money. Yeah. Especially with the views that the season one has brought Yeah. for them. Taylor says that both good and bad responses. within the church, they definitely rubbed some feathers, but they've ⁓ support. They've received criticism. So it's kind of like give what you can ⁓ Right. OK. ⁓ it shows one headline saying upcoming series premiere of Secret Lives Mormon Wives causes LDS Church in Utah to release a statement So they actually released the statement ahead of the season to. Oh, OK. Premier saying that this is not what we represent. That's the church is trying to cover their ass. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Layla says that. So like throughout this whole first scene, it's like cutting to the. Cowboy pills influencer event, and then it's cutting to a bunch of their interviews and then cutting the event, cutting their interview. So. They're showing them all together, but it's really just catching up with the girls about how season one. Right. Right. Ended in life since then. So in like that six month period, like what has it been like? Layla does say that she thinks that the church has issues with them and them trying to crush the patriarchy, but YOLO. ⁓ Jesse says that they weren't trying to bash the church, but they were trying to shine a light on does need to change. OK, right. It cuts back to the influencer event. And Jen is on the mechanical bull and Whitney shows up eight months pregnant. All the girls immediately become awkward ⁓ and don't say anything. you hear Jesse say. ⁓ New Whitney, new hair. That's how it goes. My thing about this is that you're a hairstylist. ⁓ right. Right. Why do you care how much Whitney changes her hair? Yeah. Like maybe she just wants change. Yeah. OK. Maybe she hasn't gone to get her hair when she's eight months pregnant. Right. a little differently. Yeah. I thought I find Jesse's comments sometimes a little bit off putting in weird. Like they're so out of place for what you do for a living or for like who you claim to be. Right. That I'm like. Pick something else to fight on, like, you know, pick a better argument. OK. Whitney approaches the girls to say hi and the girls ask how the pregnancy is. And Whitney says she's two weeks away from giving birth. So she's actually like at the eight. Wow. Yeah. there. So she is really close. to giving birth to this kid. in an interview says that Whitney was deemed the villain and she earned every bit of that title. Don't agree with that, guys. I'm sorry. I don't. I don't agree with that. I think she did some shitty things. Villain? No. And then it continues to recap everything we saw in season one that provides no new context to why they hate her. it's just like and like like. She didn't show up at the baby shower. did. Yeah, we already know that we've already seen it. What else don't you like about her because she's not the villain? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. Mikaela says Whitney is no longer a part of MomTalk because she removed herself from the group and then it shows the screenshot again of her leaving the group Already seen it. I know that this was released a while ago, so maybe you need context or maybe there's new listeners or viewers. We already recap season one. I know. Listen to that. I know. Just go back and listen to season one because it's just to me. I'm like, get it. Just that. Just start our episode 10 podcast. Recap a season one with Sylvia. Move on. There you go. Producers asked Whitney how it feels to be pinned as the villain. And Whitney says people are mad that she hasn't apologized for leaving mom talk and for saying good luck. Like she's saying, like her last thing that she said on that interview was like, good luck without me. Yeah. And I guess people really like stuck to that. So people are mad that she said that. OK. And she just goes, oops. cuts to Whitney so she is on the squeeze podcast with Taylor Lautner and Taylor Lautner. because he married a tailor, so they're both tailor-loved. And they ask her if she has any regrets, and she says no. If she did, she probably would have told them. So it just doesn't paint her in the best light. I wanted to go back and listen to that interview. I just didn't have time to that because I'm like, is that just like the cut of that podcast that made it seem? right. Worse, like was there more to that? I didn't get a chance to. So I will go back and listen to that episode of The Squeeze. Also love The Squeeze, by the way. I think his wife, Taylor, is adorable and amazing. And I think she's great. So take a listen to that podcast. ⁓ I'm everyone does. meanwhile, while the producers are talking to her and asking her questions in our interview and they're showing this clip, they cut back to Whitney eight months pregnant on top of the mechanical bull just for a photo. OK, not like going. Hold on a second. But I was like, my God. I'm like, I have the mechanical bull once in my life. Senior year of college. I was. In shape for the most part, I could not get my butt on top of that thing. Granted, I was really drunk, these girls don't drink, but I couldn't imagine it like eight months pregnant trying to like get yourself hoisted on top of this mechanical bull There's no way. I'm just worried about like stay away from the controls. Like, is it unplugged? Like it's not somebody can't like accidentally. Yeah. And like some lockout tag out on this thing this photo opt. ⁓ Laila and the girls are talking about Whitney at the event calling her a narcissist and that no one wants to be friends with her and they don't owe her anything. So they're over in the corner while Whitney is kind of like walking around talking to people, looking at things, getting on the mechanical bull for a photo. Right. All that stuff. And then they're just saying like, she's a narcissist. We don't owe her anything. So all these girls are in the corner talking shit about Whitney. Whitney says that even though she's not in Mom Talk anymore, this is her livelihood. So she has to come to events like these. Right. Yeah. She still has a large following on TikTok. She's still outside of Mom Talk. She's still an influencer. These girls being upset that she's there, didn't seem like this was a Mom Talk event. This is an influencer event. Right. Right. Anyone can show up to this or be invited to this. And so she's doing this for what she's making money. Yeah, absolutely. Right. It's not like showing up to the birthday party or and she just seems like to me she's walking around minding her own business. It's not like she was like trying to follow the girls around. Like she was just like literally saying hi to people looking at things, I guess, gathering like swag or whatnot that like maybe she'll like help people promote. Yeah. Yeah. Collabs and stuff. I don't know. It just I'm like, this just seems like a lot. says that she thinks everyone has up butts ⁓ and asks if fame has gone to everyone's head. that was an interview. She's like, has fame just gone to everyone's heads? Like they just all have sticks up their butts. So I don't know, guys. Whitney was making me laugh this episode, like the entire episode. I just thought she was hilarious. Can't convince me otherwise. I watched it twice. I thought about this twice. Same responsible times. OK. As the girls are hanging out, Miranda shows up. Don't don't. The new girl, the new girl. Demi goes, wait, she looks hot and all the girls are like really quiet. Yeah, she does look good. OK, Demi makes me think that Demi was way more into the swinging scandal than she claimed to be. She said, I went to a party, but I didn't participate. I'm like, well, Miranda was in the swinging scandal. ⁓ OK. Interesting. Jesse starts to explain the connection of Miranda and Taylor. So this is where, if you missed our recap, Miranda was a part of the swinging scandal with Taylor. Taylor claims that Miranda and her husband were full on swingers with Taylor and her husband. Miranda has since denied this saying that she was at the events, but the extent of what she did was make out with people and she did nothing more than that. So there's a little bit of confusion between some of the girls especially the girls that don't know Miranda ⁓ they're ⁓ taking Taylor's word versus some of the girls that do know Miranda and they're not sure what ⁓ real reality is. OK, so From my understanding, Makayla Macy and Whitney know Miranda from the OG TikTok. Jessie and Demi definitely do not. I'm not sure where Layla stands. I think she's kind of like in between. I think she may have known her. Maybe not as well as the other girls. I didn't get one or the other. ⁓ What knew about her. It cuts to Miranda in an interview and she goes, Hi, mom, talk. Did you miss me? Because if you're an OG, OG mom talk. She was before. says that Taylor is a very vocal person and everyone has heard her side of the story. But now it's time for her to tell her side of the story. So she is here and ready to share. All right. The girls asked Miranda what's going on and she decided to come back and Demi asks if it's of her divorce. So she's actually getting a divorce from her husband. Okay. So she's a single mom now. sorry, Demi didn't ask if it's because of her divorce. Demi asks if she saw her divorce coming. So all the girls know that she's getting a divorce. and that she's moved back to Utah. think Jessie does explain that when she's explaining the Taylor Miranda relationship. She said the last I heard is she's getting a divorce and she moved back. So Demi asks, did you see your divorce coming? And Miranda says yes. that she tried for so long, but the end of the day, it was gonna be better for her kids if she did divorce her husband. ⁓ Jessie asked if she initiated it and she says yes. So there's kind of like other things going on with Jessie asset, but like you could see it in the caption. So I just decided to include that. Macy asks, OK, so you're here and talking to us. Are you trying to rejoin Mom Talk? Because I guess she hasn't like officially joined. She hasn't officially rejoined. She's just here. So and this is where like Mom Talk is something outside of Secret Lives of Mormon. but Mom Talk has afforded all these girls the ability to be on the show. Right. So even though like Whitney isn't in Mom Talk anymore, she's on the show. Even though Miranda's not on Mom Talk anymore, they gave her the offer to be on the show for the drama. Okay. So Mom Talk's almost a separate thing of just these girls creating content together. So if you're not in Mom Talk, you're not creating content with them. Right. But you can be on the show. But you could be on the show. You could have other affiliations with them, but they're not. It's basically like, are you in our crew? Yes or no. Like it's, I don't know. It's giving off like mean girls energy. I don't So Macy asks Miranda she's trying get back into mom talk and what's the reason. Michaela jumps in says that she feels like There's only one explanation that she's like chasing clout. Right. And Miranda says that now she's divorced. She thinks she's ready to get back in the group. And she left because being in the group wasn't good for her marriage. OK. So she's saying mom talk at the time I was already having marriage issues. I had to leave for myself to try to work on that. I worked on it. I gave it a go. It didn't work out. I'm divorced now. I want to back to mom talk. Yeah, like I want I want support of being like I want supportive females around me as I navigate being a single mom is her. Right. Right. OK. Demi asked her straight up as she was involved in the swinging. So like Demi and Jesse, this whole episode are like. don't know who Miranda is, but I want to hear her side of the story because we've only heard Taylor's side of the story. And yes, we're Taylor's friend, but like. What if she, what Taylor is lying? So like, I want to hear this. Okay, cool. You want to be a mom talk? Are you a swinger? Yeah. What happened with you and Taylor? What happened with you and Taylor? It gets funny at the end. So Demi asked if she was involved in swinging and Miranda said the height of what she was involved with was spin the bottle and all she did was kiss people. Miranda says that she never had sex period and as they're like questioning her, like Demi goes, so have you ever touched a wiener? And she goes, no, I've never touched a wiener. And so they're just like keep pushing her. then Miranda says, I'll go to my grave because they're like, well, like Taylor saying one thing like, right. Like, she goes, I'll go to my grave. And all the girls are like mind blown that she said this, but do they know what go to my grave means? Because that means keep a secret. Yeah. she's making it seem like I'll swear on the Bible. right. Right. I mean, I think it's just a phrase. It's probably just used wrong. ⁓ it was used very wrong in this because I'm like, OK, so she is lying and she has a secret and she'll go to her grave because she's not going to tell these girls. ⁓ all these girls are like, ⁓ I'm so mind blown. And I'm like, but she just told like, am I missing something? Because go to your grave means you're not going to tell someone something. Yeah, I'm not sure. I think she's just. just some confusion there. So after all this at the event, it cuts to an interview with Michaela. She says she doesn't have a reason to believe Taylor's lying since she's been honest and open about the swinging scandal. Michaela says she knows how hard it's been on Taylor and she wants to protect her. So Michaela stances, why would someone lie about this if it's going to cause you this much grief in life? Right. ⁓ And you. been very consistent and honest and open about everything that I don't think someone coming in to me like, well, I just kissed the telling the truth of it. So Michaela's definitely team Taylor when it comes to all this. Q Taylor shows up ⁓ Taylor is this the new mom talk? ⁓ They don't show Whitney in this group talking with everyone. Okay. But then in the flashbacks of Miranda saying hi to Whitney, she's in this location everyone. And at one point you can see the corner of her skirt. So she was just edited out of this scene. Okay. To make it seem like Whitney wasn't with the other girls. That's weird. It is weird. So I'm like. How much drama is this? I don't know. You can definitely see. Guys, go back and like watch that scene. Like you can see Whitney's skirt in one of the corners when they're talking to Miranda about all this. But it seems like Whitney is not there even when Taylor shows up. They don't show Whitney at all. So they wanted you to believe that Whitney is like out of Mom Talk. Yet when Taylor shows up and says, this a new Mom Talk? Whitney is a part of that group. all this manufactured reality TV drama. Right. You got to watch. You got to watch people. Not here for the lies. Taylor says that she's very shocked to see Miranda ⁓ and she doesn't know why she's here. says that during the swinging scandal, her husband came up to her and said that he had feelings for Taylor, but she would have never done that to her friend ever. So Taylor's almost making it seem like she didn't do anything with her husband. So don't know if more comes out later about that, but apparently he told Taylor that he had feelings for her. So I don't know if that played into Miranda leaving mom talk. Right. Right. OK. Taylor said she has not talked to Miranda about anything yet, but she's not about to do it at this point at this event because she's exhausted and she's going through a lot of personal stuff. So she's like, this isn't the place for me to hash this out with this girl. just not in. ⁓ that mindset right now. Right. Taylor admits that after season one aired, Dakota finally came clean about his involvement with Jenna. So he was lying. Oh, right. Because the end, the very end of season one was the call with with Jenna. Yeah. So he came clean and he was lying. He admitted to some things. OK, we get into a little bit more later. OK, but yeah. Taylor says that she is in denial that this is even a thing and she's not sure if she wants to move on with Dakota. So she's like after he came clean and said all that to me, I'm still in denial because this is just a lot to handle. Yeah. And keep in mind, she's probably like. What now? She's like six months postpartum. But this is she said, like, if he's lying, she's done. She's done. She's not done. She's not done. That's famous last words for any girl going through it. OK, so at this point, I just want to point out that we are 13 minutes into this episode. ⁓ my God. this is why it took me so long to watch this one. So it cuts away from the event shows a bunch of different Tic Tacs of the girls, probably over the past like six months. They're catching everyone up on. ⁓ It cuts ⁓ to an interview with Jen and Jen says that it's been a few months of straight hell in her marriage ⁓ and they are currently separated. wow. She said that she decided to come back to Utah and be back with Mom Talk. So when we- ⁓ she leave him in New York? Not New York, but she left him somewhere. Somewhere. So when we left Jen season one, she was in New York ⁓ he going to medical school and telling Jen that she would be happy there. So Zach was like, you'll be happy here. Even though she was asking him, don't you think I'll miss mom talk? And he goes, no, I don't think you will. So clearly she did. She moved back to Utah. Here we are. They're separated. OK. she's saying this in the interview, Zach's pulling up to the house in the car and he gets out with flowers. Jen says that Zach is coming over to talk about their relationship, and Jen says that she was pretty firm with him about being separated. So she can figure out what's best for their relationship. OK. My question is, where are the kids? don't see the kids. You don't hear about the kids this episode. They have two of them. ⁓ know where they are. Jen says that after they moved to New York, Zach got accepted to Arizona. So they moved to Arizona. then that's when she decided to. all over the place. And then she was like, I'm going back to Utah. And they have a. house in Arizona apparently. Okay. And Jen is currently staying in an Airbnb. Jen opens the door and it's super awkward. Zach's like standing there and saying, hi baby. And I'm like, ew. sorry. I'm sorry. That's ⁓ There's cameras. I don't know. I'm sorry. It just seemed manufactured because it probably was. Zach comes in and says the place looks nice and then says, if you don't mind, I like this to be my spot, too. Like he just like wants to move in. Zach. So we were separated, but I'm coming back. then proceeds to say the last couple of months have been hard and he knows he messed up. He says no matter what Jen did, those things should have never been said. and he knows that he messed up. Jen didn't do anything. No matter what Jen did, Jen didn't do shit. Right, right. You did shit. Yeah. And you should have just not said those things. Don't say no. He's always like one of those people like, but yeah, or like or I did this, but no, Jen did Jack shit and you're a piece of shit. Let's get that straight for a hot second, sir. Sorry. All right. We know how you feel now about Zach. So he's Yeah, no, he didn't come off very well at the end there. No, this whole he gave me the ick. I got chills. I was like, you know, when you're visibly watching something and you're uncomfortable, ⁓ every scene he's in, I'm uncomfortable. Geez. He just doesn't. Nothing sits Nothing ⁓ sits right that man. It's like, Get away from me. what it feels like. And then he tells Jen that he wants to prove to Jen that he can be a good husband. Zach says that after the Vegas episode. So this is why this is why you apologize. ⁓ the Vegas episode, the whole world had opinions about them and they wanted them to get a divorce. And he had so many regrets You have regrets about how you acted because the world had to tell you that you're piece of shit to your wife when your wife is telling you you're a piece of shit. The older is why you're apologizing because you got caught. You got caught. He says that he is in therapy and he's working through a lot of stuff. I'll give him props on that. Good for you for going to therapy. You definitely need it because I'm sorry. I have no words. So throughout this scene, Jen is in an interview saying that she truly believes for long time that Zach thought his feelings were more important than hers and then upbringing saying that wives need to be submissive. Jen says that she needs them to be equal and she wants her partner put her feelings before anything else. And she like really hounds that in with Zach. ⁓ you need to put my feelings even before yours. And she says, if you don't do that, then I'm done and I can't be with you. She says that even if she went to Chippendales and danced on those dancers, ⁓ she's his wife. She's still the mother of his children and he needs to respect that. ⁓ she's choosing mom talk. And if she wants to go to Chippendale, she's going to go to Chippendale. So she's like putting her foot down and like being like, this is my expectation of you. It keeps going back and forth between the two of them. I don't know, she's crying and then he's just staring at her and he just seems like a dick. Yeah. OK. ⁓ just I can't I can't even like finish recapping their whole conversation because it ends Jen saying you can have a handshake when he asked for a hug and then they end up kissing and. Just go watch it you want to see the rest of it. I don't know. I can't even recap their rest of relationship, but basically tells him, I think you should keep the house in Arizona and let's work on a relationship and see what happens. Yeah. so think told you in one how like in between there's tick tocks between scenes. ⁓ Yeah, yeah. It be about future drama or it could be about just random things. Yeah. This one TikTok, they showed the whole thing and it was Taylor doing the have you ever seen the candy trauma trend? I don't think so. So you have a bowl in front of you and then someone will come up and be like, my name's Michelle. And when I was one, I broke my arm or, you know, like and I brought gummy bears. So it's like about like really traumatic stuff like. I have not seen this trend, but OK. So Taylor's sitting in front of a candy bowl and she goes, Hi, I'm Taylor. And when I was four years old, I met my dad for the first time. And all he said to me was, what's up, kid? And I brought the gummy bears. And then she like pours it in. So that was a tick tock. So it's kind of foreseen to a little bit of stuff that comes up. Later, OK? But the next scene is Taylor going over Macy's house to meet up with Jenna. OK. So Jenna's coming over to Macy's house to tell Taylor about everything Dakota related. Taylor comes over and in an interview says that Ever was born ⁓ Dakota was living with her ⁓ they were in baby bliss and she was ⁓ considering engagement. then she found out that he was actually lying about Jenna. OK, wow. It cuts back to the scene where Dakota's like gaslighting Taylor and saying Macy's the one that's making shit up. Right. It's all Macy's fault. Macy in an interview says that she talked to Jenna earlier this year, and when she told Taylor about it, Taylor wanted to put it on pause for a second while she had the baby. But today, Taylor is getting with Jenna to hear the full story and compare notes. Taylor tells Macy that she has dates down to a T and if anything, Dakota told her is off. She's going to be pissed. So, oh, boy. It comes out in a little bit in an interview with Dakota that Dakota, when he saw Macy called Jenna on season one, decided that he needed to tell Taylor what was going on. Oh, he was. Because he was about to be caught. Yeah. Yeah. There's more to that. But Taylor then starts like questioning and questioning and questioning and questioning, getting like a timeline. Right. Right. when were you there? What did you do? What? So in her head, she's like, if this aligns with what Dakota told me, then then I think I can move on in this relationship. Right. But he could just be spinning a web of lies. But if there's anything that he's still lying about at this point. then I can't do it. Yeah. Yeah. So she like is telling me, have this down. Yeah. But I'm going to figure it was already before, you know, he was lying. If he's lying, I'm leaving. Now it's if if he's lying a little bit based on this timeline, then I'm leaving, which sounds like she's not leaving. So. ⁓ So Jenna shows up and Macy's like getting sodas or water or something. And it's so awkward. Jenna is like just sitting there like. awkwardly smiling and Taylor's like, just not like stone face. And Macy's like, I don't know what to do. Should I put on a song? Like, do we hold hands? Like Taylor breaks the silence and says, this is so awkward, but it's not you. It's a situation and you unfortunately are in the middle of it. Jenna just straight hands her her phone with her text with Dakota and goes like, ⁓ I will show you anything and everything like here all the text. Yeah. Wow. I don't know what more proof you need. Like, here's you can click in here. Like you can see that it's his phone number. Here's all the text. ⁓ like I'm not making this up. So Jenna just wants Taylor to know the truth because she says if roles were reversed, she would she would want to Yeah. OK. So Taylor is reading through all these texts and it's taking a while. And then she starts asking, like, did you guys hang out August 3rd? And I'm like, girl, I don't even know what I did yesterday. Like this poor girl. And Jenna just says they did, but she doesn't remember like when or what they did. She goes, we went to a trampoline park. We went to a dinosaur museum and then he came over and we watched a movie. And I was like, what's a dinosaur? I guess we do have a sea science center in Manchester. That's a dinosaur museum. It's like a natural history museum with dinosaur bones. Never seen a dinosaur. I've seen a dinosaur, but like a natural. I've never called it a dinosaur museum. OK. Yeah. mean, I'm wondering if that's main attraction. And I'm very curious about this dinosaur. then asked if he spent the night on a specific day and she goes, I'm not sure about the specific day, but he did spend the night twice. Taylor asks if they did anything the first night he stayed over. Jenna says that they never had sex, but they did make out they do hand stuff, but she's not sure if she would have done that to him the first night since she was raised Mormon ⁓ or that to him. Girl seems very innocent and ⁓ So she was like, I wouldn't have done that to him, but he might have done it to me. Like, you know, being raised Mormon. And this girl clearly did not want to say anything more about that on TV. Like, I don't care. Just say it. And she's like, I care. Like, I. Right. On TV. then one of the text messages Dakota sent her did say, sorry, if that went too far. Taylor then takes her phone and is comparing notes to like she has her phone and and Taylor realizes that Dakota has deleted a lot of text messages that were sent. Yeah. So when Dakota told Taylor about all this, he then curated the story and deleted certain text messages to make it seem not as bad. Taylor in an interview says that Jenna was always the one instigating things and begging, but no, it was. So that's how he curated that was like she was after me. Yeah, wasn't after her. But it was the other way around. Yeah. And he said that they just kissed on the couch. But really, he was in her bedroom doing other stuff. Hand stuff. Hand stuff. trying to hang out with her during the day, respecting her, apologizing to her for going too far, even though. mean, he did take her to the dinosaur museum. That's very nice. I know. But Taylor. So trampoline park, dinosaur museum. So Taylor is going down this spinning rabbit hole of you're being so respectful to her and taking her on day dates ⁓ chasing her. And I was just your night booty call. Right, And so ⁓ she like. really spiraling and she's like, I don't even know this person that I thought I was with. Yeah. so at this point, Taylor just breaks down and says that she hates him. ⁓ was making Janice seem desperate. Like she's ⁓ her eyes out. She goes, he wanted you to seem desperate. Like he said you were desperate. You were after. And she's like, yeah, that's like, I'm sorry. Like, sucks. And so she says, I loved him. And she's like, just so, so distraught. Yeah. And so that's kind of where that scene ends. So it cuts to a park and Whitney and Miranda are meeting up with their kids. Miranda says that she missed a friendship that came from MomTalk and she's known Whitney for a couple years now, so she's excited to catch up. Miranda says that she's not sure where she stands with everyone in MomTalk, so she's going to start with Whitney. Whitney says in an interview that she understands why people are weirded out that Miranda's coming back in the picture right now. mean, wait, Whitney's not even part of MomTalk. Right. So just part of the show. Yeah. And I think it's more like when he's not in Mom Talk right now, but she's been there more recently. Like, OK. You know, like Miranda's just trying to connect with one person on the show. OK. I think they use Mom Talk as kind of synonymous with the show. But like I said, it's not. It's not. OK. OK. Sorry. No, it's it is confusing. It is confusing. So Whitney in an interview says that she understands why people are weirded out that Miranda's coming back right now. But Whitney relates to her in the fact of like, I've understood the need to like have time away. So Miranda took her time away and now she's ready to come back. So maybe it didn't work out in the way like she was trying to save her marriage. But like now she wants to be back in the group. Whitney tells Miranda that at the cowboy pill event, the influencer event, that all the girls thought Miranda was lying about the swinging scandal. And Miranda just says it's not a conversation that she wants to have with the other girls. And she just wants to have it with just Taylor and not online. And then Whitney kind of laughs like, yeah, haven't we learned our lesson by now? Like, let's not do this online. So Miranda in an interview says that things at the event were really awkward. So she's decided to host a happy hour at her house. OK, wants to break the ice ⁓ and ⁓ feel like feel out if the girls are OK with joining And she's going to invite everyone, including Whitney, because she wants Whitney there for support. OK. It goes to a haunted house and mckay Oh it is it is halloween okay i was like wait a second hold on even though they're in a park sweating their asses off and it's halloween time i love haunted houses i do too nightmare new england shout out nightmare new england It was like the largest, I think the largest in New England, but it had five haunted houses and then in between people walking around and then go carts and different things. And haunted house had a different theme. So there was like a clown one, a hospital one, a graveyard one, a guy chasing around the chainsaw. So and I had a couple of friends that like actually worked there ⁓ high school. And then like when someone knew who you were, they all had microphones. So like they could be like, her name's Michelle coming up in the blue. And then so like later on in the haunted house, you might not know your friend was back there, but all of a everyone's saying your name. And then you're like, how the hell does everyone know who I am? But it's like, they all have mics. Interesting. So once I learned that, then like kind of like the freakness part, like it got removed from me, but I still have it. All right. Anyway, so Michaela, Macy, Jesse and Demi go to a haunted house. Jesse says that she's been to many haunted house and loves it, but the church typically doesn't condone anything satanic or that could invite bad spirits in. So she's not really sure where they stand with it, but haunted houses are a little bit more of the playful side of that. Michaela is hating all of this. Michaela says she doesn't know why she is even paying for people to make her skin crawl when Whitney does it for free. Which was funny, but I still like without more context, I'm like, you haven't been friends with her. my God. I thought she was going to say when I have a chronic illness because her skin does crawl. Yeah, she's a sicker. Her skin is crawling, literally crawling. show the girls walk through the houses and Mikaela and Demi are freaking out and like Maisie is just like trooping through it. Jesse is like making fun of them. It's kind of funny. one of them yells, I'm going back to church after this. ⁓ I think Demi at one point yelled, ⁓ I just got an STD. I don't know if she like hit something or cut herself. don't know. Interesting. Okay. That ruined the vibe for me though. Thought you could have left it at the church. I thought that was funny. at the end of this, they say we deserve a drink after that. And then Macy says, make it a double. I still don't understand all the drinking references in the show if they don't actually drink. They deserve a soda, dirty soda. So they go and they sit down at table and then they're bringing out these. looks like a shot with like a light up. Cube in the middle, OK, so all of them are like bright neon blue, red, green. So I don't like I don't know what they're drinking. You can't really tell me. See, at one point does pour a can into hers. OK. But what do you that what would you pour a can of soda into? You would pour it into like vodka. I I don't know. So I don't know. Are they drinking, guys? I don't know. I don't know. will say Jesse does point to one of them and goes, that's mine. And we know that Jesse does don't drink that one. That one actually has alcohol. Yeah. So maybe it's maybe it's fine. But I was I was like trying to figure this out and I couldn't. And they blurred that soda can. So I don't know what it was. As they're sitting there having their drinks, they bring up Miranda's happy hour and they show the screenshot of Miranda's invite. And it's like a formal invite like. ⁓ you would send for like a baby shower. Yeah, yeah. And it's like through Instagram. And I'm like, I feel like this could have been a text message, but I guess that's cute. Yeah, it's serious happy hour. Yeah, she's serious about it. Macy says that she doesn't know why Miranda is trying so hard to reach out when she's had three years to do it. then goes, just kidding, I know why. And then a producer asked her why, and she responds, because she wants that bag, baby. ⁓ Macy thinks that she burned her bridges and now that MomTalk is doing well, she's coming back at the most convenient time for her. Okay. Demi says to the girls that anyone coming in at this point is just chasing clout and it is what it is. And Michaela and Macy do not want to go to the happy hour. But Jessie's intrigued about what Miranda has to say. OK, Macy thinks Demi and Jessie were kissing ass at the influencer event the other day. And Jessie says she just doesn't know Miranda, so she doesn't know how to act. And Demi says that it wasn't her kissing ass. She just wants to hear the truth. Jessie says that She wants to hear both sides of it. Michaela says that she would love to sit down, Taylor and Miranda together and make them talk, like talk it out because she thinks Taylor has not been nothing but open about the swinging scandal. Right. Even if it's made her look bad. and then Demi goes, what if they just start making out? ⁓ So Debbie just wants to get to the bottom of it to see if Taylor's lying because she thinks that that will be a big deal if she is. Right. OK. It cuts to Taylor's house and Taylor's mom shows up with ever her and Dakota's son. OK. So there's clearly a communication disconnect between Taylor and Dakota right now because Dakota called her mom when he could have called Taylor and said, saying, like, hey, I'm going to work. Can you come get him communication disconnect between Dakota and Taylor? Yeah, but he lives with Taylor. I'm just kidding. From. I'm. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. So no way. Taylor in an interview says that after her conversation with Jenna, she did confront Dakota and called him out for lying and deleting the text messages. OK. Taylor says that there is no excuses, so she has distanced herself from Dakota. OK, wow. Taylor's mom's face looks really, really stiff ⁓ I guess she got work done and then asked Taylor, do I look your age? So Taylor was like, so we always talking about that. Yeah. So Taylor at like Taylor interview said when her mom like first came out of surgery, she looked like she got hit by a bus. So Taylor's like, what the fuck did you do? now that she's been healing, she's been looking better. And like, if that makes her feel good and good for her, she does look significantly different this season than she did in season one. And I'm wondering how much like, did she see herself and be like, I didn't like that. herself on TV and was like, yeah, that's kind of sad. Like, yeah, that's kind of sad. Yeah. But, know, if you feel better about yourself, I mean, she looks good. It's just she you don't. don't look like her mother now. okay. Taylor tells her mom about the meeting up with Jenna and she is crying telling her mom that she feels like she fell in love with someone that doesn't exist anymore. Taylor tells her mom that... She thinks she like can't even try anymore because all she's ever asked from Dakota was honesty. clearly he just kept lying and lying and lying. Yeah. Her mom then asked if Dakota were to walk away, could you handle it? Like being a single mom. Yeah. I. Why is that your first thought to console your daughter by putting more doubt? Right. She can't handle something on her own. Yeah. Like she needs to get away from him. Yeah. Don't put the thought that like she needs him. Yeah. And hold on to that thought. OK. So Taylor says that she choose to walk away instead of dealing with this. Like she's like, I would choose to walk away. Right. So Taylor's staying strong and that like this would be better for me. It cuts to an interview. And Taylor says that growing up with a stepdad, she always called him dad because he adopted her when she was two. And he has the father figure in her life. But Taylor says that she thinks her trust issues really stem from her biological father leaving her. OK. And she goes on to explain the story of the first time they met, how she was in a restaurant and went up to him and all he said. was what's up, kid? And that's like all he said to her. Wow. And so she like left crying and went back to her booth. So she thinks like a lot of her issues stem from that and like abandonment. Yeah. So she's crying and telling her mom saying that she feels used and trapped and taken advantage of. Taylor's mom's. Face looks ⁓ She like hugs her and then proceeds to tell her that she needs to keep trying. my goodness. so mom into a rant, not a rant, but like a conversation about how out of all of the values that the LDS church teaches us. Family being the foundation of our lives is the one that I would be like I take to the grave like our family is our foundation and so she's saying that because you chose to have a kid with him and she keeps saying I wish you would have decided this like figure this out before you had a kid with them right now that you had a kid with him you need to work it out for this kid because that kid's foundation to his life is his what about the previous husband cage. I'm that's like all I'm sure she went through it with that. Yeah. Getting a divorce from him. so telling Taylor like you need to figure this out for that kid. And I that. But let's also think about what's healthiest for this. Yeah, seriously. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, it's great if both parents are around. But yeah, if if it's a toxic relationship, like that's even worse. Yeah. So, OK. So yeah, ⁓ so Taylor says that she's gonna tell Dakota to please not come back home and she thinks only way that they could ever work this out is if she has a to breathe for herself. Right, yeah, Think about everything. Yeah. Okay. So Taylor's done. It cuts to Zach and Jen going to ketamine therapy together. I tell you, you guys, this episode. So Jen thinks that Zach trying ketamine is a pure example of how much he is willing to do in their marriage. This is the funniest shit. This is the funniest shit. They're like wrapped up in blankets on these like. couches and they're being hooked up to IVs and they have headphones on and like I'm asked like like so Ketamine therapy is them like taking drugs and then passing out and then after an hour they wake them up and then like you're supposed to be like in this state of just being like Real and down to earth and like in the right headspace to have these conversations. Okay interesting. All right What the fuck is going on? So they wake them up after the one hour and Jen tells Zach that she had memories from when they first started dating and she feels like she truly found her missing piece in that moment when she did meet him for the first time. This whole scene just made me uncomfy. It made me uncomfy the way that they were talking to one another. It made me uncomfy the way that Zach just didn't seem sincere in everything. Right. They're crying at one point. Then Jen, at the end of it, is like, so will you talk to Dakota and Jesse? So when I didn't mention this in the beginning. So when that came over, she was like, I really want you to talk to Jesse and Demi and all of them, because like why you having because he like questioned their marriage so they don't like him. ⁓ OK. So she's saying that it's making it really hard for her to be in the group when they still don't like Zach. so apparently Zach left a voice note for the girls. So Jesse plays the voice now. I like flashback to this voice. The he shares is those text messages were never supposed to like get out. But like ⁓ I have said that. So even though they did, I shouldn't. So again, it's the ⁓ I caught. So I'm going to apologize. So I meant what I said, but I really didn't mean it. ⁓ Yeah. So this whole interaction with them after Ketamine is like Zach saying that, you know, a team and how he realizes that he needs Jen in his life. And, Jen saying a month before they met, she prayed for him and God led me to you I could never. live without you and Zach says he'll always fight for Jen and then Jen switches and Hardgears asks, so do you still plan on me up with Jemmy and Jesse? And Jen then goes, you might be in the right mind space right now if you did it, because like you're in ketamine. And I'm like. And then Zach says that, yeah, if they're truly your best friends and they care about you and it's important to have that conversation, like I'll talk to them. And I'm like. What? ⁓ Interesting. of scene. OK. ⁓ All right. Cuts back to Taylor's house and Dakota's packing up his stuff. Dakota in an interview and this is like the first time that you've seen the guys in interviews. We saw Zach in interviews. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. So before this, you didn't see any of the husbands in interviews. So Dakota in an interview says that he is moving into a friend's house for a little bit so he can figure out what to do. And Dakota says that when he saw Macy called Jenna. He didn't want more problems to come up. So he decided to tell Taylor that he made out with Jenna. They dry humped, but he slept on her couch. He says that he did leave out things that Taylor would find upsetting, a.k.a. sleeping in Jenna's room. He deleted some of the text messages and he says that he wished he was honest with her from the start, but it's too late. Yeah, bro. It's a little late. It's a little late. It was too late. Even when you lied to her last season, you're gaslighting her saying Macy's starting this shit. That's when it was too late. Holy fuck. He says he feels like his son is just perfect and he let his son down and he would do anything to have his family back. And he's like crying at this point in the interview. He says that he's sick of destroying and hurting himself due to his own actions and he doesn't like what he does to himself. He says Taylor's worth fighting for and that's exactly what he's going to do. OK. Then he drives away with less boxes than he moved in. ⁓ We end Miranda's house for the happy hour. OK, yeah, the happy hour. Miranda says that she knows there's a lot of speculation on why she wants to rejoin Mom Talk, but she's just hoping that she can clear the air with the girls. And she says one of the main reasons she wants to join is for. the support because now she is a single mom, so she wants the friendship. Right, that's what you were saying early on. Yeah. OK. And she knows she's walking into a lion's den and she'll have to win the girls over. She has a giant table set up with like a cheese board on it and a spread. She has drinks everywhere, like soda. And so it looks like a really cute set up. one of the cheeses spelled like has cheese that was like cut into like mom talk, like the word mom talk. when Michaela says this, she goes, ⁓ the smell of desperation and then proceeds to eat every single letter of mom talk. So it's not there anymore. ⁓ my goodness. I mean, yeah, Michaela just I know how to feel about her. Whitney shows up in shocker, Demi surprised to see Whitney there every other time. Right. What is she doing here? Like, girl, come on. ⁓ She says that she's going to have to play the game of trying to avoid her. And there's like eight girls there. So I'm not really sure how you're going to avoid someone. Yeah, this isn't the the influencer event. Right. Literally a happy hour with the talk girls. Demi thinks that Mom Talk needs to be protected against people like Whitney and possibly Miranda. ⁓ She doesn't want one more bad thing bleeding into Mom Talk and ruining the health of the group. ⁓ Such a healthy group anyway. It's so bad. ⁓ gosh. Whitney says that coming to the event today because she is building this relationship with Miranda. And she goes, not that I'm a swinger, but we do have other things in common. When he's okay, when he was really funny. I'm sorry, guys. I kept laughing. She says that she wants to support her because I'm sure there's about to be a really awkward conversation that's about to happen. Right. Macy asked Michaela if they should leave and go get food. And Michaela says, honestly, yeah. And this party looks so awkward because at one point, like in the kitchen getting something ready and then like she's just asking Whitney about her pregnancy. And then like Macy, Michaela and Layla are all just like sitting on like the back of the couch, like not saying a single word to anyone. So it's just very awkward ⁓ uncomfortable. Yeah. Michaela thinks that Whitney and Miranda's friendship seems pretty phony and they are both trauma bonding over ruining friendships and leaving mom talk. ⁓ Jen then shows up and says that the vibes are really off. She says it's probably because Layla, and Macy are against Miranda joining Mom Talk because they are team Taylor. And then Jen goes, I don't mind Miranda and she's a single mom and as women should really rally around her and support her. So Jen is under the impression that Miranda's okay and she's fine with her joining. ⁓ Then Miranda kind of like ushers everyone to the couch being like, if you guys are done eating, like we can go sit on the couch. Like, you don't have to stand here awkwardly. Jen's over at the table getting food and it's just her and Whitney. And Jen's telling Whitney that she's that she's still showing up to mom talk events. And Whitney's like, ⁓ like, ⁓ like I'm glad like I'm here. So Jen then tells Whitney that after Vegas, she doesn't know if she can trust any of the other girls. ⁓ wow. And Jen says that she reached out to everyone in the group message and she goes, didn't see it you're not in the group message. It's like, yeah, we got that. ⁓ And she asked that they would not to feed into any. negativity online surrounding her marriage after season one aired. ⁓ OK. Apparently no one responded. So Whitney goes, ⁓ gee, yeah, that would piss me off, too. Yeah, seriously. And so kind of nice seeing Jen and Whitney kind of like bonding on that level. Yeah. Away from the group. Clearly, like the group isn't. perfect and Whitney is not this terrible person. Right. And we did know in season one and even Jesse confirmed in season one, like Whitney is the one to reach out to people. So the group is missing that. And it seems like maybe all the other girls are a little bit more on the selfish train of being there for themselves and not for the group. Yeah. So maybe you're missing Whitney, guys. I don't know. Taylor then shows up last and she says she's here to see what Miranda has to say and if Miranda starts to lie she's going to call her out. ⁓ here we go. The girls all sit on the couch and Michaela starts it because they're like We don't know how to start it. So Michaela, the discussion. Yeah. So like Taylor, at one point, Michaela and Macy are in the kitchen and they're like, how do we start this conversation? So then finally they'll sit on the couch and Michaela just goes, so I think that there's a conversation that needs to be had. Whitney goes, between Taylor and Miranda and Michaela goes, no, everyone Whitney then goes, ⁓ and like slaps her butt like really funny. She goes, let's do it. like adjusts herself and gets ready for it. And it's like, it's really funny. And I'm like, OK, like, let's do it. So Macy asked Miranda what the intention of inviting all the girls over was. And because haven't talked to her in two years, and Miranda says that she wants to clear the air and put everything behind them and move forward. Michaela says the timing seems very convenient ⁓ and it fake to her. Michaela says that even the other day at the event, Miranda was going around saying that the swinging was only kissing, but that's not what they heard from Taylor. And Taylor looks at Miranda for her response, like Taylor sitting there and she was like just looking at Miranda and Taylor in an interview says that it's frustrating when someone is lying through their teeth and it's putting her relationship with the other girls in jeopardy. Oh, geez. Taylor hopes that the girls have her back because it's going to get messy for sure. Oh, wow. That's the end. That's it, huh? Season two, episode one ends there. Yeah. That was a lot. Well, yeah, it was a lot. are your thoughts? I have no idea how I'm to give a recap to start our next episode, but I'll have to figure that out. There's a lot going on. There is a lot going on. Chaotic. Hopefully, the following episodes aren't as crazy. It's, yeah. But last season had some ups and downs, like episode wise, like some like seemed more tame and then some had like three or four events going on and it was all over the place. So I feel like this is the start of this is just as crazy. I mean, I think they definitely have to capture your interest, right? Like they're not going to have a lame. Yeah, you can't start season two, one with a a shitty episode. Yeah. No, it's it's a lot. There's a lot going on. Taylor and Dakota. you know, that seems to be going about how I thought it would be going. But unfortunately, we know it doesn't end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's other things there. And then Whitney being actually more involved in the episodes, not just like off, you know, with horses and stuff. Yeah. Like actually with the other Yeah, with the other girls. I do like that. Yeah. Even if she's not part of the crew. Yeah, so I was I was I was curious about that because I know like she stayed obviously, I think season four you were talking had the Dancing with the Stars stuff. So she's definitely still part of the show. Yeah. But I was curious because like the the past few episodes were just like her with her family or her doing this without the girls or like. She shows up and the girls are like, what the fuck are you doing here? So it's like, now it seems like she's like kind of co-mingling a little bit better. Like not, not as like it was. I think that they gave her someone so that could be like Miranda and Whitney. OK, right. And then the first scene that Whitney was in was. the influencer event. they're putting them in situations where Whitney would be there. Yeah, it's yeah, there's multiple instead of just showing up at a birthday party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because clearly they wouldn't invite her. She wasn't even invited there. So that was right. And so that was like a lot of like the influencers. I mean, yeah, I didn't see. mean, were hundreds of people there. I looked pretty lame to me, to be honest. There was other they showed other girls other influence. OK, it was like. the host running it was not someone we see or know. But several more people than just the Secret Lives of Mormon wives cast. Yes. Okay. All right. Well, no, that's good stuff. Yeah, we'll we'll keep on keep on going. Season two, episode two next week, I guess. ⁓ Yeah, we'll keep going. Yeah. Thanks for listening, everybody. We really appreciate it. Be sure to follow us on Instagram at Reality Hits Matt, that's Reality Hits M-A-T, just one T. I'll keep telling you that. You might get some new followers. They're going to be trying to follow the, you know, M-A-T-T. That's a whole different podcast, I think. No, it's not. I don't know. It's not. A whole different Instagram. We're also on TikTok now. Also, Reality Hits Matt, M-A-T. 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