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Huddle Up | Winning in Tough Environments, 2026 Record Predictions · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Huddle Up.
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  Speaker 2: Jackuar.
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  Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osher, NFL network analyst and former Jaguar
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, and senior reporter J. P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick bring you the latest.
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  Speaker 1: Storing yours Jacksonville Jaguars.
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  Speaker 3: Huddle Up starts right now.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome into another edition of Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks,
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  Speaker 4: J P.
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  Speaker 3: Shadwick, John Oser.
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  Speaker 4: We're at the Miller Electric Center at the Hyundai Studios
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  Speaker 4: in Jacksonville, Florida. Bucky Brooks with us in Los Angeles, California.
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  Speaker 4: Phase two continues, Bucky, how are you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I'm great. How you guys doing, Mike.
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  Speaker 1: You know it's excited? You know it's next Buck Phase three?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Phase three.
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  Speaker 2: Then we can get to a got a little team competition,
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  Speaker 2: get to see everyone compete on the grass. That means, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Mini camp is on the horizon. And there's nothing more
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  Speaker 2: that I love, Like I love LTA's, but there's nothing more.
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  Speaker 2: And I loved in the mandatory mini camp when everyone
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  Speaker 2: is out there playing ball.
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  Speaker 5: In shirris and shorts, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I know Jail is gonna be out there tracking all
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  Speaker 2: the completions, the rotations, letting the people know who's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be under fifty three right now as you know.
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  Speaker 4: It, Gilar versus Carter Bradley. He's gonna keep tracking that battle.
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  Speaker 3: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never have completely understood why they call it
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  Speaker 1: except for it being manager. Why don't they just called
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  Speaker 1: mandatory OTAs because it's the exact same rules, except they
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  Speaker 1: called mandatory mini camp.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's a change. But it goes back.
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  Speaker 2: It harkens back to the time when it does any camp.
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  Speaker 2: It was it was it was five practices in three days.
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  Speaker 2: We had two days on Friday and Saturday, and then
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  Speaker 2: one day on Sunday before everyone was dispatched.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, with all the.
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  Speaker 2: Different iterations of the CBA, it's now moved into the
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  Speaker 2: week because you can't work them on weekends and then
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  Speaker 2: you can't do double days because that'll be too much.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so we keep the name. But that's all
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  Speaker 2: this the same.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, twas a day when the following weekend after the draft,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't rookie mini camp. It was a mini camp
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  Speaker 1: with veteran in z and rookies and uh, the first uh,
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  Speaker 1: the first jags was that and uh, there was an incident,
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  Speaker 1: there was a helmet throwing incident. Yeah, Ferrick Collins, Uh
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  Speaker 1: got into a fight with somebody on the field through
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  Speaker 1: the helmet, my like through I forget whose helmet. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was Dave Woodell's helmet. I think he was
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  Speaker 1: into it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and that sounds about right.
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  Speaker 1: Coughlan, Pete Prisco and I were interviewing Coughlin afterward, and
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  Speaker 1: and Cofflin came in and his face was red and
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  Speaker 1: he'd cut him on the spot, and uh, men were
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  Speaker 1: men back there. They He went on to be a
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  Speaker 1: good player for the Patriots for a couple of years,
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  Speaker 1: like he was not. He was one of the better veterans,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, Cofflin cut him right there.
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  Speaker 2: Reynolds fove JP no place for undisciplined players in this program.
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  Speaker 2: And so if you're going to snap and you can't
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  Speaker 2: control yourself enough to have enough poise to not engage
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  Speaker 2: in the fight, and how can we count on you
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  Speaker 2: to be able to keep your wits in a game.
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  Speaker 5: And so what we're gonna do is we just gonna
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  Speaker 5: move on. We're gonna move on without you, and we'll
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  Speaker 5: bid you a dude fair enough.
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  Speaker 1: And funny thing is that I interviewed Ferrik the next
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  Speaker 1: year before the AFC Championship game, and he said, he you,
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  Speaker 1: Tom did the right thing.
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  Speaker 4: Tom was the judge, jury and the executioner that day
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  Speaker 4: and throughout us ture here.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, Jackson sidetracked. Didn't mean to get sacked.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, you're excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: That's okay, like like it brings back memories of Coffin
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 5: Look you can't see me.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, but I got my sock sport all the
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  Speaker 2: way up as he would want me to do before
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  Speaker 2: we take on jack Was.
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  Speaker 5: I walked past, like in my office.
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  Speaker 2: Door, there's a concentration line, and I know when I
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  Speaker 2: cross over the concentration line, I gotta be fully focused.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm on here with you guys. I walk past
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  Speaker 2: the concentration line. I have all my team issued gear
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  Speaker 2: right here. I'm dress coded appropriately. Look, we had an issue,
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  Speaker 2: but I was, I was on call fing time, I
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  Speaker 2: was five minutes or I was ready to go.
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  Speaker 5: So we got to figure this out.
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  Speaker 3: And no sunglasses either, so that's good.
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, no, no no. Years.
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  Speaker 1: I had a concentration line sign that I took from
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars first training camp, and well it was done.
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  Speaker 1: Actually didn't mean it was. As camp was wrapping up.
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  Speaker 1: Concentrations line was a huge deal because everything the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: did ninety five was a huge story. So we had
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  Speaker 1: written a story on the concentration line. And the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing was Tom put a sign up as soon as
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  Speaker 1: you passed through this door, or on the way out
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  Speaker 1: to practice in Jacksonville, as soon as you passed through
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  Speaker 1: it was the concentration line. And so of course me
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  Speaker 1: and Prisco would make fun of it, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: But I had it for years and and I hoard things.
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  Speaker 1: I have everything for my past, and I do not.
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  Speaker 1: I do not have that concentration and I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like the way JP is making fun of
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  Speaker 2: the concentration line.
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  Speaker 3: Making fun of it.
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  Speaker 5: He had laughing and giggling. It's very serious.
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  Speaker 1: You don't giggle the concentration line.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, the concentration line.
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  Speaker 2: When you walk over the concentration line, you're not only
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  Speaker 2: supposed to concentrate, but you're supposed to have everything snapped up,
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  Speaker 2: all bucket up. But we're focused, like none of that,
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  Speaker 2: Like can't do your own thing. I certainly hope you
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't be a me guy. You gotta be a WE guy.
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  Speaker 2: Like everybody's the same once we cross the concentration lines focus.
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  Speaker 3: I'm the ultimate WE guy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a team player, say a week or week we Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Team player, Bucky. I don't know why you even even
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  Speaker 4: questioned the team player saying, let's get into kind of
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  Speaker 4: the bigger story that continues the reaction from the schedule release,
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  Speaker 4: and everybody's chirping about all these games and there's only
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  Speaker 4: seven of the last ten weeks are all away, only
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  Speaker 4: three home games in that stretch, the two London games.
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  Speaker 3: A lot going on there.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, I have a chance to catch up with
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  Speaker 4: Mike North. He's the NFL VP of broadcast play. Basically,
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  Speaker 4: the schedules are for the National Football League. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: have three primetime games this year and two National morning
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  Speaker 4: games in London, five standalone windows for the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they've earned it. I mean, there's really no other
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  Speaker 6: answer to that question. You win division titles, your perennial
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  Speaker 6: playoff contenders, you have one of the superstars in this
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  Speaker 6: league at quarterback. You're going to be on the prime
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  Speaker 6: time schedule, and you know you play your way into
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  Speaker 6: those slots, and the Jaguars have done that. The nine
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  Speaker 6: to thirty am Eastern time games have been a staple
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  Speaker 6: for a while obviously, but I think you also see
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  Speaker 6: us kind of leaning into the potential for what those
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  Speaker 6: matchups can do now on NFL Network, and you see
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  Speaker 6: maybe an uptick in the quality of opponent. That Eagles
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  Speaker 6: Jaguars game, you know, in London, could have easily been
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  Speaker 6: a Sunday night football game, a Monday night football game,
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  Speaker 6: a Thursday night football game, a Fox doubleheader at four
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  Speaker 6: to twenty five, like those your twenty twenty five thirty
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  Speaker 6: million viewer windows. And that's the type of matchup that
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  Speaker 6: absolutely could have held down any one of those spots.
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  Speaker 6: The fact that we're using it at nine thirty in
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  Speaker 6: the morning kind of shows you a renewed commitment, if
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  Speaker 6: you will, to the quality of those windows as well.
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  Speaker 6: Any standalone national game is just that it's the whole
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  Speaker 6: league watching, it's every fan watching. You know, the life
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  Speaker 6: flood of this league is still Sundays at one o'clock
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  Speaker 6: and you might have eight, nine, ten games going on
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  Speaker 6: at a time, but there's no substitute for these standalone
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  Speaker 6: national windows, and Primetime is one thing obviously, but you
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  Speaker 6: know the holidays and these Sunday mornings they're special too.
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  Speaker 4: Then you've seen John, yes, the uptick in some better
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  Speaker 4: quality matchups overseas.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's I was It was interesting that he
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  Speaker 1: said that so publicly because you could certainly see it
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  Speaker 1: in the scheduling, and you've seen it. In the last
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  Speaker 1: couple of years. There was a time where it really
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  Speaker 1: felt like the nine to thirty London games were sort
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  Speaker 1: of a step up from preseason if you will, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm exaggerating that, you know what I'm saying very You know,
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  Speaker 1: you would often see three and ten from the previous year,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just not the premium games. And I think
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  Speaker 1: once they started moving a lot of the international games
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  Speaker 1: to Week one and really making those more high profile,
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  Speaker 1: they have had a renewed energy to the Sunday morning game. Look,
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  Speaker 1: both of those Sunday morning games are between really good
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  Speaker 1: teams from last year. You know, the Texans wouldn't didn't
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  Speaker 1: win the division, but they only didn't win it because
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars won it and the Eagles won their division.
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  Speaker 1: So look on this schedule, Bucky, there's not only the
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  Speaker 1: five standalone games, but in sort of following how networks
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  Speaker 1: think about these things. That New England game early may
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  Speaker 1: not be a standalone game, but it's clearly one that
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  Speaker 1: the network said we want that, you know, and the
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  Speaker 1: and the Broncos game the same deal. I'd be surprised
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  Speaker 1: both those games aren't shown to eighty five to ninety
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  Speaker 1: percent of the country. JP, you're more of a TV
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  Speaker 1: guy than I am, but to me that means they've
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  Speaker 1: got at least seven and I'm guessing the second Texans
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  Speaker 1: game it is going to go to a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the country. So you want respect, you got it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think this is a great opportunity for
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars. You talk about want to be back on
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  Speaker 2: the map and Liam played you know, the lack of
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  Speaker 2: respect card last year. Well this year that can't be
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  Speaker 2: the case because you talk about the two standalone games
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  Speaker 2: in London against really good teams Philly.
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  Speaker 5: And Houston respectively.
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  Speaker 2: We got the three primetime games where the world gets
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  Speaker 2: a chance to see us on a Thursday night, a
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  Speaker 2: Sunday night, and a Monday night. You can't really ask
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  Speaker 2: for more than that. But John talks about early that
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  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos game, knowing the conversation coming out of that
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  Speaker 2: game from the Broncos.
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  Speaker 5: Side about how they basically gave that away. It's gonna
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  Speaker 5: be really, really intense.
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  Speaker 2: It should be a nice game for everyone to watch
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  Speaker 2: because this Week two and then the Patriots game, just
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  Speaker 2: because of all the stuff swirling around the Patriots.
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  Speaker 5: You grab a lot of eyeballs on that game. So
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  Speaker 5: it should be a lot of fun for the Jacks.
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  Speaker 2: And what I will know as a player, man, you
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  Speaker 2: love being on center stage. Josh shines out and talked
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  Speaker 2: about no complacency in the building. But this is an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to show and prove that you certainly aren't rested
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  Speaker 2: on your laws from the previous year and that you
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  Speaker 2: aspire to be one of those teams that they always
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  Speaker 2: talk about in feature in these primetime matchups.
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  Speaker 4: One of the big challenges, of course, for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: this year they have only eight home games in the
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  Speaker 4: regular season. Two of those are in London. That leaves
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  Speaker 4: six home games for the rest of the season. I
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  Speaker 4: asked Mike North, how do you work around that as
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  Speaker 4: a schedule maker.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we had a lot of conversations with the team
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  Speaker 6: with mister lamping, with Chad Johnson, and of course with
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  Speaker 6: Tony Bacelli, we knew the challenges that the Jaguars face
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  Speaker 6: this year with the stadium renovation going on. It really
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  Speaker 6: came to down to the two London games, and what
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  Speaker 6: the team was looking for was like a what they
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  Speaker 6: called a donut a four week donut hole where they
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  Speaker 6: could really get a lot of construction done and you know,
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  Speaker 6: pray for good weather. Got a lot of ground to
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  Speaker 6: cover and a lot of work to do, But any
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  Speaker 6: four week stretch out of your buildings a lot.
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  Speaker 5: So once you knew you were gonna have that.
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  Speaker 6: Four week gap, now you're talking about the weeks before
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  Speaker 6: and the weeks after, and the weeks before. We could
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  Speaker 6: have done two away and two home. We could have
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  Speaker 6: done one home and three away. You do one home
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  Speaker 6: and three away, and then you do the four week
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  Speaker 6: construction donut hole. Now you're talking about only one game
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  Speaker 6: in Jacksonville in the first seven weeks of the season.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure that's the right thing for the fan.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not sure that's the right thing for the team
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  Speaker 6: quite frankly. So, once you make a commitment and you
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  Speaker 6: make a joint decision, all right, we should probably do
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  Speaker 6: two home and two road to start, then the four
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  Speaker 6: week donut hole. Then to your point, that only leaves
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  Speaker 6: three homes over the last ten however you sequence them. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: the Jags caught a three game road trip. I'm not
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  Speaker 6: sure it's the worst three game road trip, just in
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  Speaker 6: terms of travel and the fact that the first one's
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  Speaker 6: on a Thursday, so you get that kind of ten
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  Speaker 6: day mini bi So maybe it is a three game
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  Speaker 6: road trip, but it's really more like a Thursday, a
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  Speaker 6: ten day and then a two week home, two week away, home,
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  Speaker 6: two week away.
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  Speaker 5: It was just the nature of the beast.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see how they handle it. I think we'll learn
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  Speaker 6: a lot, because I think this is something that we're
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  Speaker 6: probably gonna have to deal with as we head into
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  Speaker 6: twenty twenty seven as well.
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  Speaker 5: It's a balancing act.
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  Speaker 6: Between doing right by the fan, doing right by the
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  Speaker 6: construction that is necessary for the stadium in the future,
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  Speaker 6: and also doing right by the football team. I don't
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  Speaker 6: think we want them on the road the last five
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  Speaker 6: weeks of the season, or on the road the first
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  Speaker 6: four weeks of the season, So trying to sprinkle out
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  Speaker 6: what's left of the home inventory fairly and strategically so
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  Speaker 6: that the season doesn't look too at a whack.
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  Speaker 4: That's a fascinating look at the insides of it. There
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  Speaker 4: John dealing with teams getting requests from teams. Jags have
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  Speaker 4: a special situation with the stadium as well.
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  Speaker 5: Well.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I know this hope will not be fulfilled, but
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  Speaker 1: I hope that fans who are listening to this will
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  Speaker 1: watch the complete interview you had with Mike try to
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  Speaker 1: absorb it and realize he's got to do that three,
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  Speaker 1: two times times, probably like four or five conversations back
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  Speaker 1: and forth, trying to fit everybody into this puzzle. Because
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  Speaker 1: there's this idea of you know, I get it. Fans
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  Speaker 1: just look at your team, your schedule and say, wow,
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  Speaker 1: that's not right. Look when you've only got eight home
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  Speaker 1: games and you have to play two of them in
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  Speaker 1: that donut hole as they call it, and two of
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  Speaker 1: them have to be in London, there's gonna be gaps
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  Speaker 1: somewhere else. And as much as fans want to think
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  Speaker 1: the NFL is trying to do something to the Jaguars,
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  Speaker 1: they're trying to get a schedule out, and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not something I would want to do.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really hard, and I think the
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  Speaker 1: reality is bucky when you know, look, the one of
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  Speaker 1: the game has been important to this team, but when
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  Speaker 1: you have two over there, there's a limit to how
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  Speaker 1: friendly the NFL can make the schedule. Look at EverBank Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I would say this, And I know there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of consternation about the home games and the lack
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  Speaker 2: of home games, only being able to play with six
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  Speaker 2: when you take away the two international games. Yeah, look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say some of this is yet the design
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  Speaker 2: problem that you have when you have two games that
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  Speaker 2: are overseas. But the other problem that you have is
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  Speaker 2: when you play the first place schedule, trying to get
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  Speaker 2: these matchups right to balance it out for all the
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  Speaker 2: other heavy hitters around the league. And I'm gonna say this,
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  Speaker 2: like in looking at the schedule, and I forgot that
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  Speaker 2: we hadn't even talked about the schedule. Probably coming under
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  Speaker 2: pride this time, it's a doozy coming out the gate,
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  Speaker 2: like those first six games, four playoff teams out the
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  Speaker 2: gate before we get to it by week and the
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  Speaker 2: two other games are Cleveland and then Joe Burrow. Yet
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  Speaker 2: I can't say that they did the Jags any favors
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  Speaker 2: when those playoff teams are Denver, New England, Philly, Houston.
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  Speaker 5: Then you get a bye week.
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  Speaker 2: You we said you take on Indianapolis, the Ravens or
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  Speaker 2: whatever like the I guess kind of the softer part
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  Speaker 2: of the schedule is after the bye. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: is a head knock it. This gonna be a difficult challenge,
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  Speaker 2: but it's one that we should be excited about because
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  Speaker 2: you want your teams to be in this conversation and
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  Speaker 2: you have to be able to deal with it. But
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  Speaker 2: no favors.
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  Speaker 1: You know what good teams do, Bucky, they beat other
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  Speaker 1: good teams well so and and that's what I always
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  Speaker 1: try to step back from when about how hard a
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  Speaker 1: schedule is. First of all, to me, bad teams succumb
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  Speaker 1: to circumstance, meaning bad teams struggle on the West Coast,
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  Speaker 1: bad teams.
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  Speaker 5: Struggle, it's hard to find out the.
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  Speaker 1: Road on the west you nowhere else. Bad teams struggle
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  Speaker 1: against other bad teams, and they also struggle at home
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  Speaker 1: because they're bad teams. The Jaguar struggling in a lot
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  Speaker 1: of situations for a lot of years. With meeting JP
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  Speaker 1: Covernor we finally figured out you know why they're struggling
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: in these circumstances because they're not very good. So I
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: think this team is good. The road stuff doesn't bother
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: me with this team because they beat Frisco on the road.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Last year, they beat Denver on the road. The student
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: they were nineteen up on the Texans. They should have
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: beaten the Bengals. There was no game last year where
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, they were on the road, so they
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't win this. Oh my gosh, look if look, if
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: they don't make the playoffs, if they don't achieve their goals,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: it's because they weren't good enough. It's not because of
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: their schedule or because of where they're playing.
• 16:42
  Speaker 7: It's not because of the murderers we have to face
• 16:46
  Speaker 7: they're playing.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Will Trevor was the top five MVP voting. I guarantee
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: most of the other guys you just mentioned were not
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: in that world. This team is supposed to be better
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: than teams next year.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Six playoff teams that we have on the slate we
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: got the final quarter of the season.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: You know what they have on their You know what
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: those teams have on their They have the Jaguars on
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: their slate.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Last year, San Francisco in the playoffs Jaguars Dub in
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the playoffs Jaguars Dub.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're role playing because John is so
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, he's so confident in like that's normally
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: not in a position, And here I am trying to
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: be the devil's avocate, being like, oh, I'm scared of everything.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Wars win these games. They were
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: a good team last year. They navigated that schedule. This team,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this team went on the road. This team can go
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: on the road and win games.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: The second podcast, and if we don't get to the
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: point where we're predicting, you got to tell me which
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: games were winning. I need to know by the time
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: we conclude the show how many games you don't win?
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Like what like? Are we eleven twelve, thirteen? Games?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: What? Like? What are we doing?
• 18:04
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• 18:24
  Speaker 4: this would be a good time now to get your
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: schedule predictions both of you.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Wins losses, Where are the losses coming?
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really do where the losses are coming?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Uh WoT, well, then he can go do that with
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: this guy all ever hear anymore? Got Lance zero line?
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: What are we doing?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Go get Lance zero line to give you the game
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: by game.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Schedule, Like, we can't predict, can't predict the wins and
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: the losses. We just wants to look at the schedule
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: as it is and then whatever when we.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: Get to the end of season, we know where we are, Like,
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: what do.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: We do.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Eames eleven games?
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think but and and and people are
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: going to say, well that's a drop down for thirteen.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I think this is at least a comfortable double digit
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: win team. And I'll go through the schedule and show
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: you which ones you know, if we have to play
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, eleven eleven wins, I'm okay, that's that's about where
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Like, I'm following the premise.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: We want to go three and one every quarter, that's
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: what would like to do that and put us where
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: we want to be at the end of the year,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: so I'm right out the gate, like I think, like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson starts for the Cleveland Browns, I think that's positive.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: The last time we saw him play was.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: In our stadium and it didn't go well for him,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, Boo didn't really like it a lot. So
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: we'll go there. Denver, New England. That's a stretch. Denver,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: New England Cincinnati, that's that's tough. I think we at
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: least get I.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Want to know there's two you can I'll pause here
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: and let a bucket. I don't think for the next week.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like a crack addict. If you put
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: a little bit in front of them. You can't put
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: a schedule in front of Bucky. It would matter what
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: team it is. It could be a high school schedule
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: right now from somebody in Wisconsin and he would go
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: down and go ww tough.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: Come on, look, man, this is kind of rad think
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this because you said it, and I
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: think Lim said we could be a much better team
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: with a lesser record. We could get out the gates,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: stumble a little bit, have a chance to reset it
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: the bye week, and then kind of get going, and
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: then it's the last part of the season where we
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: get it because I see us really getting hot right
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: in that middle portion of the schedule.
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: I'm just checking off dubbs left and right. I just
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: see four out of five right there.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Then the final five games Pittsburgh, Houston, Dallas, Washington, Indy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Oh. I can just see us smoking going into the playoffs.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I'm going to give us talent that up carry.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Say right now, we're at twelve. Right now, I'm at twelve.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: I guarantee you that twelve dubs dubs.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't bet my house on it, but I'll bet
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: there is some forum out there, some podcasts, some Bucky
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Brooks if you go, if you click on NFL dot
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: com next to his top five draft, there's somewhere you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: can find where he predicted to do a different record
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: for the Jacks.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: I haven't done it to you.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: He's done it somewhere in his.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: House on the Raiders site. They'll go much lower.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: He does so many he can't keep draft there.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: But the eleven wins I was closed to.
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: But I look, it wouldn't make for good fodder. So
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: I could either do twelve or ten. Ten.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Then I'm like a pessimist, like I don't believe in
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: right doing, and I think we just find a way
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: to get it done. Twelve is Hey, I'm on the uptick.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: I feel like we have a chance to really make
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: a run. And I do feel like we have a
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: chance to make a run.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: I think the first part of the season is tough.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: To be a little patient. It's tough coming out the gate.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Once we get to the bye week. Once we get
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: to the bye week, you get so if we get
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: to the the bye two and four, three and three,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I feel like we're coicking with gas two and four.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Wow, you know who doesn't have trouble coming out of
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: the gate? Good football teams?
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Two and four. You might be staying like like not
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: at one ocean.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: From here on, one ocean.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: One ocean is no longer one ocean, so it doesn't matter.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You might be staying like a there's a Super eight.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Hot going down the stretch, hot, sizzling, scorching, And for
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: all the fans that are mad about not being able
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: to see us play in the regular season, save up,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: get your postseason tickes.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: We have a couple of home games and it's all
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: good makes up for it.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I will say this, I agree with Bucky. I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they'll get I think it's a good team, So I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think it's a good team. They will find a way
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: to get to the bye above five hundred. But as
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I wrote last week, somewhere, you know four and two,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: you get to buy at four and two against this
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: schedule with elite, with consumer teams, I think you feel
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: good about it. But look, I know last year's last year,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: and it's not the same thing. But you sort of
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: said the same thing last year. Oh boy, you had Case,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: you had San Francisco, and you had Houston in that
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: first five and I said if they could get to
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: two and three, they'd be great, and they were four
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and one. So look, good teams figure out a way
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to go win and keep your help. This team beat
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of good teams last year. I believe this
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: thing is for real. I think a lot of the
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: people who are pessimistic about it don't realize how good
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: this team's going to be going forward. So I think
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: they'll manage this schedule. I think this will be a season.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: At the end of the season, I think you will
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: feel good about this team if you look back and say, oh,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that big of a deal or that unusual
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: for them to go beat these teams last year. Every
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: time it happened, he was like, oh man, look they
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: did that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I think you go to Baltimore. There should be some
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of these against good teams. If you're like, Okay, we
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: did that, Okay they did That's what they do.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean you beat all the good teams, because
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you don't beat all the good teams. They're good too.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But I think it will feel very even footing against
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: those teams. They'll win more than they lose. And again,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I think they'll eleven six or twelve and five go
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: into postseason.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Sounds like a plan. Sounds like a plan to me.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: One other note about the schedule. The preseason schedule has
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: been finalized. Preseason Week one in the Superdome against the Saints.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: It's a four pm Eastern kickoff on Saturday, August fifteenth.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: That'll be on Fox thirty TV. Preseason Week two home
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: against the Panthers, seven thirty kick Friday, August twenty first,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: that's on CBS forty seven. Preseason Week three against the Buccaneers,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: seven thirty kick Friday, August twenty eighth on Fox thirty.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Keep an eye out in the coming week for some
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: word maybe on some joint practices leading into some of those.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: We'll wait for that to officially drop before we even
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: speculate that, but that seems to be the rage around
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: the NFL.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Well, and I definitely think from listening to Liam, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: forget what forum he talked about it in, but he
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: definitely likes that maybe in the owner's meetings where he's
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: definitely going to lean toward not playing guys in games.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll accomplish at it, how many
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: he won't play in him, but it certainly sounds Bucky
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like he's a believer in the preseason that you can
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: get just as much out of practice and managing that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: as you can in games.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Now, if you're able to have like joint practices,
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: you absolutely can get pretty much the same simulation that
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you would get in a preseason game, because what you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: get is the intensity and the competitiveness of a preseason
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: game while having a controlled environment where maybe you can
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: limit the injury risk that could be associated with the quarterback,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: in particular with some of your other star players. And
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: then you give your young guys a chance to kind
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: of go through a preseason game three of them where they.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: Really play the game. You can evaluate them.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: In different circumstances and situations, which you want to see
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: because it gives you an idea on how they'll respond
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: in the regular season when they're in those moments. Ultimately,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I think Liam comes from the school you want to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: get to the starting line with everybody, because if you
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: get to the starting line with everybody, then whatever happens
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: after that happens.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But you want to get at least to open the season.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Man, let's have our best squad ready and available to
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: go when we keep it off, kick it off in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: week one.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Dave can Alis, Panthers coach, actually basically verified that they'll
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: be here for a joint practice at least.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: And I know Liam, I don't put words in his mouth,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: but they got one last year against Miami. It seemed
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: from the way he spoke like he would have liked
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to have had more than that. Had a little trouble
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: getting it done. Uh, just to get circumstances. It can
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: be hard to get those games because if the other
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: team doesn't want to do it, if they've already done one.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Some teams don't like to do three, so if they've
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: already done one in a different circumstance, it can be
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: hard to get that lined up. But uh yeah, i'd
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: be I wouldn't be surprised if he's trying to get
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: one each week, just because I know he thinks that's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: the way, as Bucky said, the best way to prepare.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes it these, makes it these for everybody involved.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: It'll be nice and it'll be nice and cool in
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: New Orleans.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean like it can be any cooler than
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: it will be and do all that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: New Orleans for years wouldn't train in New Orleans. They
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: trained in Wisconsin forever, and they went up to California.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah it's tough out there, California.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Then they would go to Metai for a little bit,
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: some of those big old mosquitoes to get you got
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a tough you up JP. Like some of that is
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: like I'm just telling take some bucks, break kind of
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: figure out, Like you gotta look, I.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: Need everybody ready to go for the regular season.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So you got to go through some hard things are hard,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: as we say, like you got to go through some
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: hard stuff to be ready to go and so.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: Bucky, you don't think we've gone through hard stuff here.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Opening your eyes last year, last year's last year, previous
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: years and previous years got a brand new year. We
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: need some, you know, some toughness, build on some calusies
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: to get ready for the twenty twenty sixth season.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: It's Bucky, one question for you just to close out,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: And this is a question for Bucky the analyst. Uh,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: best matchup? What get like? What game are you looking
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: forward to most on the schedule? What dazzles you? What
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: stands out game?
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to the most Baltimore Ravens game on Thursday.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: I think reason's funny the reason why jesse mentor that team.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Look, they're they're different, but they're gonna be a physical team.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: They're gonna challenge us from a defensive standpoint. And then
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: playing whatever version of Lamar Jackson shows up for the
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Ravens this year, whether he's run around thread or a
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: guy that's more committed to playing from the pocket, that
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: is one that's a big one. And then I think
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: everybody who's ever put on a JAG's uniform kind of
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: knows what the Pittsburgh game means to us. Playing Pittsburgh
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: on Monday night, even though Tomlin's not there. Mike McCarthy,
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: there's just something about the Jags and the stiller is
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: going back to when I was there and we were
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: all in the same division. You kind of know what
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it is when the Pittsburgh Steelers are coming to town.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: It's interesting.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Just look at Aaron Rodgers here as well.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also interesting for people who, you know,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I think they're not getting respect whatever, putting the Jags
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: in that December twenty seventh, two days after Christmas against
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Dallas at AT and T Stadium Sunday night. That's the
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: last scheduled primetime game. There's two tbds coming up after that,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: but that's the last. I think it's the last scheduled
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: one because it's week what sixteen. Look, I'm not sure
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: it gets much more high profile than that in terms
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: of just sort of ran them games to put there.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: You know, it's not division. You put Dallas in the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Jags on Sunday night, Christmas weekend, that shows you they
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: think this is going to be a high profile game. So,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: uh don't You can't sit here and look at the
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: schedule and think that the league is trying to bury
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the Jags.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's no matter what the Cowboys are doing, they're
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: always going to draw anyway. But if the Cowboys actually
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: have their act together and are in it late December, lookout.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's a big time football game, Bucky.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: We'll do this again next week, and next week it'll
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: be phase threeas.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Oh man, do you know what, I'll make sure I
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: have my mouth piece of step ready because that mean
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it's just a little more intensity, a little more physicality
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: in the building.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: So I'm okay with that.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, get across that concentration line and we'll see you
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: All right, it's right there, right there, is right there.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: You've got a content tree when you walk in the office.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Bucky Brooks, Jodd Ozer, I'm JP Shadwick are.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Thanks to Max Hocklin, Our, thanks to David Choe, Our,
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: thanks to Joe Fortunato. Thanks to you for watching and listening.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Is huddle off with Butcky Brooks.