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625,000% Increase in Myocarditis Since Vaxx Roll-out — Dr. Peter McCullough Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:02
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So joining me today is someone who has been on the very front lines of fighting back against the COVID and the vaccine crisis that we're facing right now. And it's doctor Peter McCullough. He actually told me he has a claim to fame as the person with the most with more media time talking about COVID, analyzing COVID than all public officials officials combined.
• 0:31
  So this is a guy that has really been on the forefront. So we're gonna be talking about where COVID, know, where the vaccines right now, what kind of research that he's seeing coming out, what are the numbers that he's seeing, and also have some questions I took in from the audience beforehand I'll be asking as well. So you're gonna really enjoy this interview. Also, I encourage you to share this because as you'll see in the interview, we're talking about the apathy that is our fellow Americans and really people around the world, and we have to figure out how to get over that apathy. So please share this video with someone that you think could really use this information.
• 1:01
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• 1:28
  Alright, Doctor. McCullough, it is such an honor to have you on here. I know I've met you in person, but I've been waiting for the opportunity to interview you. So it's such a pleasure to finally have you here.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Well, thanks for having me.
• 1:39
  Seth Holehouse: Absolutely. And I also, you know, I asked folks before the interview today, said, Hey, if have any questions for Doctor. McCullough, please let me know. And the most common thing that I saw coming up was people saying, Please thank him on our behalf. Thank him for for fighting on the front lines in this war against COVID and everything.
• 1:58
  So I just wanted to relay that to you.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: Well, thank you.
• 2:03
  Seth Holehouse: So how about you know, let's just kind of dive into where you're at with your understanding of just where things are at with this vaccines. I've got a whole bunch of different questions surrounding it and COVID and the overall pandemic, but let's just first start with what is the current research? What are the numbers that are coming out that you're seeing with regards to the effect that the vaccines are having on people? Is there a certain percentage of people that are getting injured? Or what are some of the numbers that you're seeing?
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: The worldwide vaccine campaign at this point in time can be considered a complete failure. And there are strong calls for all the vaccines to be pulled off the market. I made the call in the US Senate on 12/07/2022 after multiple, testimonies through 2021 expressing concern. I first expressed concern as a public figure in March of twenty twenty one in the Texas Senate, and even prior to the vaccines coming out, I had published an op ed in The Hill describing the great gamble of this technology on the human race. So from the very beginning, I think I was well positioned.
• 3:15
  Looking back, the vaccine should have been pulled off The U. S. Market in January of twenty twenty one, and Pfizer knew about twelve twenty three deaths within ninety days of release. It was in their post marketing data. Pfizer didn't stop it.
• 3:29
  The FDA didn't stop it. In fact, the FDA attempted to block that information to America for fifty five years. So our FDA at this point in time cannot be considered to be acting in the best interest of the safety of Americans. Pfizer, Moderna, Janssen, and Novavax are not acting in our best interest. It's really up to the citizens to to make that call.
• 3:54
  How did we get into such a terrible place with the vaccines? I think from the very beginning, The U. S. Response to COVID wasn't considered a public health initiative. It was considered much more like a national security initiative.
• 4:11
  And when the CARES Act and the PREP Act were initiated and operationalized, you know, those are essentially National Security Act legislations. They they deal with emergencies like radiation and and various forms of of poisonings and things, so, that's where it came from. And the term that's used is called countermeasures, emergency countermeasures. Emergency countermeasures is a military term. It's like when a military officer decides to, you know, launch an invasion, it's not going to be stopped no matter, you know, what data come in or what type of casualties are incurred.
• 4:49
  It's not going to stop, and that's what we've seen with the vaccines. The order was given by the Department of Defense and HHS launching the vaccines in The United States, and there's no signs of stopping. None. Our CDC director and FDA commissioner, HHS secretary, not once have they even hinted at a stopping point.
• 5:13
  Seth Holehouse: Which is incredible considering all the information coming out, yet I know that the Died Suddenly documentary went, you know, of millions of views so that people are becoming much more aware of this than they were one or two years ago. But you still have the people on the media or, you know, the the authors, the journalists that are writing for the big publications discrediting everything. And, you know, look, when I look around, I can't remember ever seeing this many young people dying suddenly or young people having heart attacks. And I know that, you know, that there is the, you know, it's the kind of principle that if you're focused on something, like say you're trying to buy a new Volkswagen car, you see those a lot more when you're focused on it. So, I think it's beyond that, but you have the people that are countering that coming out and saying, you know, look, you know, young people have always had heart attacks and myocarditis, and this is just, you know, it's caused by climate change or eggs or but, you know, you're one of the most respected cardiologists in the nation.
• 6:13
  What are you what are you seeing happening?
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: I'm seeing tremendous apathy. I'm seeing deaths, as you've mentioned, but no one seems to care. The family expresses no outrage. The obituaries don't mention the cause of death. It's just that, you know, a 24 year old died, and that's it.
• 6:32
  No outrage. But if a cause of death is something of another cause would be an outrage. Like, recently at Michigan State University, there was a shooting. Several students died. There was an outrage, so any other cause of death will cause an outrage.
• 6:48
  But if COVID-nineteen vaccine causes a death, no one seems to care. The family, even resuscitated cardiac arrest victims, they don't seem to care. There's no mention of the cause of this. There's almost a funny regret or remorse, so it's some type of psychological state that people are in. My experience is that people such as you and me and those in our circles, we care far more about these lives than the victims themselves and the families of the victims.
• 7:20
  They honestly just don't seem to care. You know, two recent reports, I think, are notable. The first one is by Skidmore from Michigan State University, a large survey using social types of networks and analyses asking people what they knew. And the estimate is of people who knew other people who died due to the vaccine extrapolated to The United States, the number came in at two hundred and seventy eight thousand Americans died in the first year of the vaccine campaign. Could just juxtapose that against the paper from Columbia by Pantasatos and Seligman, and they had estimated in the first year of their campaign, using vaccine administration data and U.
• 8:20
  S. Census data, that the upper limit of the confidence interval could be as high as one hundred seventy eight thousand Americans. Another way to do it is to take the VAERS system, The U. S. Domestic data, eight thousand deaths in December of twenty twenty one, and then an underreporting factor of thirty, and that would bring it right up to two hundred and forty thousand Americans that have died in the first year of the vaccine campaign.
• 8:53
  So, you know, three different ways to do it, and we're coming up with roughly a quarter of a million Americans dying in the first year of the vaccine campaign, and we don't have a quarter million families expressing outrage here. It is the most bizarre situation. This is far greater than any war, far greater than any national tragedy we could ever have, and no one seems to care outside of people unaffected like myself. I seem to care a lot, but we see any interest in this. And I think it's easy to blame the media and say, well, the media is not letting people know.
• 9:34
  I'm much more keen to blame family members, church members, other in the circles for a lack of outrage or conversely for apathy. Why would people be so apathetic regarding avoidable death?
• 9:51
  Seth Holehouse: And that's it's such an important point because, you know, I know people, for instance, that, you know, before the COVID vaccine were very strongly anti vaxxed. They had, you know, read all the books, they knew about all the different problems that were coming out related to autism, etc. But there's something that changed and now they're on their third or fourth booster. And it feels like that they're it's almost as if there has been a psychological operation to prime people's minds for this kind of behavior because it doesn't make sense. I mean, if a, you know, a 19 year old football player collapses and dies on field, and it was it was discovered that he had taken this particular medicine right before the game, and that's what killed him.
• 10:36
  It's like what you said, there would be outrage like you couldn't even imagine. Yet there's something that's it's almost in the air in people's, it's a psychosis almost, that's causing people to not use rational thought and critical analysis to question why these people are dying.
• 10:55
  Speaker 2: It's almost like a suicide or assisted suicide, people want this to happen. We've brought up the vaccine for so many notable cases. In 2021, there was a fair amount of reporting where someone would die, they take the vaccine and die, and it would be reported. But in 2022, the vaccine has now been taken completely out of any press reporting on any deaths. It's just gone, and all we hear is that a young person, no antecedent illness, that they died.
• 11:31
  And so, Doctor. Asim Malhotra, a U. K. Cardiologist who lost his father due to the vaccine and formerly he promoted the vaccines, he understands now that they have an unacceptably high risk of death. He's come out after two papers that he's published analyzing this, and we made a documentary together, a small one, called Until Proven Otherwise.
• 11:52
  What we said is that unless there's, you know, some clear cut illness or described cause of death, that given the high penetration of vaccines, our CDC says in The United States Eighty Seven Percent of Americans took a vaccine. I recently came back from Australia. They're estimating ninety five percent of people take a vaccine. The vaccines cause fatal syndromes as published in the peer reviewed literature, fatal myocarditis, acceleration of atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, neurologic hemorrhage, bleeding in the brain, Guillain Barre syndrome, blood clots, clearly described, and then fatal immunologic disorders like immune vaccine and immune thrombocytopenic purpurea. So with fatal vaccine syndromes described and someone with a high penetration of vaccines, a safe conservative regulatory stance would be that it's the vaccine until proven otherwise.
• 12:54
  And so recently in the press, I've raised a couple issues. One, this is so important that the public health agencies, they all know who took the vaccine, so we need to merge the U. S. CDC vaccine records and the National Death Index, and we need to know who died after the vaccine, who died on the day they took the vaccine, on the second and third day. We need to have those data.
• 13:20
  We need to merge them. Every country with death records and vaccine records needs to merge those data sets. To my knowledge, not a single one has done it. The second thing that needs to happen is doctors and health care workers, they need access to these vaccine administration records. When they receive patients who have had a cardiac arrest, they need to understand if they've taken a vaccine or not.
• 13:39
  So someone comes in and a cardiac arrestor is taking a vaccine, that swings the diagnosis towards myocarditis and a primary arrhythmic arrest. It swings it towards blood clots. It's going to be far more likely those than other causes of cardiac arrest. So this is vital information right now, and so far the CDC and every single public health administration system is not making any access to these records, yet public stadiums and other venues are demanding people show their vaccine card. So we have this duality here where the best example is the Buffalo Bill.
• 14:20
  So Damar Hamlin, the player, has a primary cardiac arrest. You know, I go on Tucker Carlson for twenty four hours. I said, I'm a cardiologist. First thing I need to know is, did he take the vaccine? I told America he was going to survive and recover, and I was correct.
• 14:34
  I think people, you know, have learned to trust me in giving the correct prognosis all the way through this because, you know, I pay attention to careful details in these vignettes and watch the film. And I said, Listen, unless there's a clear cut other cause which would emerge quickly, it is the vaccine until proven otherwise. So then, you know, the Bills, in the meantime, in the first year of the pandemic, they were demanding that everybody who entered the stadium have their vaccine records. Hamlin comes on with Michael Strahan for an interview, and Strahan asks him, What caused the cardiac arrest? And Hamlin says, Well, I really don't want to go there.
• 15:14
  Mean, what are we to think with all this?
• 15:17
  Seth Holehouse: I mean, it seems just so massively coordinated, which I have a few questions that relate to that. But before we move on talking about myocarditis, what are the statistical rates? What what what was the common percentage of myocarditis, say, per million before the vaccine? What is it now?
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's go before COVID. Before COVID, paper by Aurelia and colleagues published in the cardiology literature, I believe Circulation, in Finland had all the cases. The number was four cases per million per year, mainly young men, ninety percent young men.
• 15:58
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• 16:26
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• 18:33
  Speaker 2: So before COVID, the established rate is four cases per million per year. So in my practice experience as a cardiologist, I I saw two cases before COVID. Because coronaviruses can cause myocarditis, as shown by Ralph Baric, who's a leading researcher on SARS CoV-two, he showed that in high doses, coronaviruses can cause myocarditis in animals. He showed that in 1992. So when COVID hit, many organizations dealing with young men had myocarditis screening programs like college athletics and like the military, and they looked as hard as they could to find cases of COVID myocarditis, and a handful of cases were found.
• 19:21
  No hospitalizations, no deaths. So it's possible that COVID can cause adjudicated myocarditis, but it's extremely sparse when it happens and it's inconsequential. Now, because inpatients have cardiac troponin ordered and cardiac troponin is commonly abnormal, there's been a false vein of literature stating that COVID causes a massive number of cases of myocarditis. An elevated troponin in a sick patient in the hospital is a blood test is not myocarditis, so those papers are invalid and should be discounted. So, the adjudicated cases in the military and the NCAA Big Ten, a paper notable by Daniels and colleagues, it is possible for COVID to cause myocarditis.
• 20:10
  It's rare and inconsequential. No hospitalizations and deaths. Now we bring in the vaccines and fast forward two prospective cohort studies. Remember, the FDA told Pfizer and Moderna they had to do prospective cohort studies. They didn't do them, so other organizations did, one by Nansugen in Bangkok, Thailand, and the other one by Mueller and Lapesik in Basel, Switzerland, showedboth studies showedif they do all the baseline measurements before the vaccine and all the base measurements after the vaccine, then the percentage that is sustaining cardiac damage, two point five percent.
• 20:48
  So that means twenty five thousand cases per year due to the per million, 20 five thousand cases per million per year due to the vaccine. So we've gone from four to twenty five thousand cases per million per year. And what we hear from public health agencies and messaging now is trying to shift the blame back to COVID. And I said, No, it's not COVID. It's the vaccine.
• 21:12
  Because the vaccines don't work, people get COVID anyway. So now they've had both exposures, and so now we're left with a deluge of myocarditis. My clinic is filled with myocarditis. The most important point of myocarditis is if someone has it, they can't exercise because exercise will trigger a cardiac arrest.
• 21:33
  Seth Holehouse: My goodness. And what is the long term prospect of myocarditis? What is, is it, you know, with a diagnosis, is it something that, you know, you can have it and you're most likely gonna be okay the rest of your life, or is it a pretty dangerous that will end your life much earlier?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: No form of cardiac damage is healthy for the body. So, you know, one case of heart damage is one case too many. So, I've heard our public health agency officials say it's mild. Well, it's not mild because the majority of clinically recognized cases are admitted to the hospital. That's been shown in about 200 papers, so it's not mild.
• 22:10
  And then they've said that it is transient. Well, it's not transient. There's a paper in Lancet showing that, you know, beyond three months, you know, still substantial proportion of ongoing symptoms. It's been my practice experience that the MRI abnormalities are not going away after a year, so we have to continue medications. So it's serious, it's not transient, and it's not inconsequential.
• 22:37
  So the two outputs of any form of myocarditis are a risk of sudden death or the development of heart failure. And what we're seeing with COVID-nineteen, unlike other forms of myocarditis, the risk is much more stilted towards cardiac arrest. We're not seeing that many cases of heart failure. There was a notable case when I went on, Joe Rogan, Joe reviewed this case of a young woman, Simone, who's attending Northwestern University. She took Moderna.
• 23:05
  She developed fulminant myocarditis, went into heart failure, had a heart transplant at Northwestern University, and died afterwards of an infection after the transplant. I think Northwestern never apologized. I don't see any continued outrage by the parents. Again, just apathy. There's another case that's, in my knowledge, circles at a major university.
• 23:26
  Went all the way to a heart transplant. No one seems to be disturbed by it. So it's just a very, very bizarre time that we're in right now where we're seeing record numbers of deaths, heart damage, blood clots, and the people suffering these, the family members, the institutions, no one seems to care.
• 23:45
  Seth Holehouse: And I know that there's been billions of doses administered, and I've also- I interviewed Manly Wolf, and we talked specifically about infertility and miscarriages, and you know, and so when I look at all this together, I also interviewed Doctor. Chris Flowers talking about the cancer rates, skyrocketing cancer rates and, you know, type three aggressive cancer showing up, you know, out of nowhere. If you if you put all that together, and we look at the fact that, you know, billions of people took these these these jabs. What do you think and this is maybe a far reaching question, but what does our human race look like in ten years? I mean, this seems like it just seems like we've altered the course of our human race with this vaccine.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We've clearly given ourselves a big setback in terms of all cause mortality and life expectancy. So all cause mortality up in every single system, every single country, life insurances, health systems, census, death records. Everywhere we look all cause mortality up. Some of it's due to COVID, but I think most of it is unknown, meaning it's attributable to the vaccine. Remember, death is cause of death is always known.
• 25:01
  In The United States prior to COVID, it's forty percent known heart disease, forty percent known cancer, and twenty percent other causes that are clear, like a suicide or motor vehicle accident, drug overdose. We never have deaths that are a mystery, and yet some insurance companiesone in Germanyis reporting that the vast majority of, you know, excess deaths are unknown. People just die, and the only thing that is possibly behind that is the vaccine. So it is the vaccine tool proven otherwise. It's a top priority to merge vaccine and death records.
• 25:36
  It must be done. There should be a public call for this, and our officials, in my view, should remove all vaccines from the market. They are seemingly worsening things for the pandemic. You know, as we emerge out of a pandemic, we close it, ninety four percent of Americans, by the way, have already had COVID, according to Clausen and colleagues from Harvard. As we emerge out of a pandemic, mortality ought to be reduced below baseline or flat because of what's called a culling effect.
• 26:05
  Some frail people died with the illness. We shouldn't have all cause mortality marching up at the end of a pandemic. The only thing that could cause that would be a vaccine and a vaccine associated with large numbers of deaths.
• 26:18
  Seth Holehouse: And with all this data that's coming out, as a handful of studies that you've referenced, we don't see any backpedaling from our government, the agencies, you have a lot of colleges still demanding that the students are vaccinated, sometimes the teachers aren't. And if I look at the big picture of this, and we look at also the information that came out from Pfizer that they knew of deaths and miscarriage rates and everything ahead of time, the question I have and based upon what you've seen, do you believe that this vaccine was developed with an intent to harm people? Because it's hard to it's hard to make sense of everything that's like, they haven't stopped this. They've just been shoving it harder and harder and harder.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's by design. I I just think that vaccination is a really bad idea. The inventors of these technologies, you know, did a very poor job conceptually of of of how to do this. We would never have a human cell produce an abnormal protein. Never.
• 27:24
  It's just it's the worst idea ever. Anybody who claims to have invented messenger RNA or lipid nanoparticles for that purpose, honestly, they probably ought to be behind bars. I mean, it's just an awful, awful concept. I published in August of twenty twenty that this was the greatest gamble, you know, of all time, that it was just a bad idea. That's before the very first clinical trial came out.
• 27:50
  I knew it, and it was so apparent, to never use this technology for a vaccine. If we wanted to use messenger RNA to replace a deficient protein like alpha galactosidase and Fabry's disease, that'd be fine. Nobody would have a problem with that. But but we would never harness our own body to produce abnormal proteins. You can tell the companies now have are completely unmoored.
• 28:13
  Moderna's announced 40 additional products. They want the human body to produce foreign antigens from influenza, respiratory syncytial virus, and the human body can't do that. Our cells attack our own cells when we express foreign proteins. So you can tell that it's people's minds at this point in time are not thinking correctly. They've lost all types of clinical judgment.
• 28:42
  They've lost any interest in safety whatsoever. And this has happened among the agencies, the companies, but I don't think it's intentional. You know, the majority of the vaccines used worldwide were the antigen based vaccines, the Chinese vaccines, which are just killed virus vaccines. So they just are toxic, and they don't work, but they don't install the genetic code for long term harm like what was used in The United States. But the COVID-nineteen vaccines as a bundle the worst set of products in human history and have created a huge setback for human biology, a giant, giant misstep for health care systems, doctors, anybody who supported these, whoever told their patients to get them.
• 29:30
  They have a long walk of shame to complete in the rest of their careers. Not a single one of them can look me in the eye right now and support these vaccines, but I haven't seen any doctors really come out and say they were sorry either.
• 29:46
  Seth Holehouse: In considering the scope of the pandemic and just and just the coordination of it, you know, from social distancing to mask wearing to the mandates to even the the PR and marketing, the slogans, the paying off influencers, the late night hosts singing about vaccines. I mean, it was such a coordinated effort, you could see, mean, massively coordinated. But the one of the questions I oftentimes get to is, well, who's really behind it? Right? Because I look at some people, they want to point at Fauci and say, I think Fauci is a front man, though he's a very powerful person, but like, who do you think is behind this?
• 30:25
  Is it, you know, global organizations? Is it the CCP? And what do you think is behind this?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: You know, in our book, Courage to Face COVID nineteen, John Leake and I have coined a term called the biopharmaceutical complex, and in there we believe at the top is the World Economic Forum, the World Health Organization, Gates Foundation, Welcome Trust, Rockefeller Foundation. These powerful, unelected, financially extraordinarily wealthy institutions appear at the top. They have coordinated an incredible vaccine cabal, a syndicate essentially. Know, Gavi, UNITAID, the EcoHealth Alliance, all the agencies, NIH, CDC, FDA. There's been a vaccine frenzy that's gone on in The United States since 1986 when the vaccine manufacturers were absolved of any liability.
• 31:28
  When I was a child, there were three shots covering five diseases: diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio, and measles, mumps, rubella. Okay, MMR and Tdap. That was it. That was it. Now we have a situation where a child today, they've actually added the COVID-nineteen vaccines, emergency use authorized, with no assurances on safety, with actually no coverage of the current variants, they've added them into the permanent childhood vaccine schedule.
• 32:10
  That can tell you that the AASIK committee for the CDC, they've completely lost their mornings. This is an experimental temporary vaccine. How can they possibly know that it's going to be on the permanent schedule? It's completely unmoored at this point in time. We see things that are completely antithetical to what vaccines can be used for.
• 32:34
  For instance, nursing homes in general have no vaccine mandates, but colleges with healthy young people do have vaccine mandates. And some of the colleges just have mandates for the healthy students, and they don't have mandates for the older faculty. So you can see here that nothing makes sense. So a six month old baby would get one of these vaccines as a routine. In fact, the parents really don't make a big deal to hop out of it.
• 33:03
  They would get it as a routine, but a frail 95 year old in a nursing home wouldn't get the vaccine. All of this demonstrates, I think, that you're right. Some type of psychological operation has been undertaken. The human mind is not thinking correctly, and boy is humanity taking a real charge for this.
• 33:25
  Seth Holehouse: And if we look back in history and look at the Nuremberg trials as an example, right, which which brought justice, and I've always thought it to be kind of ironic that communism never faced the Nuremberg trials. It was only the Nazis that faced it. But looking at this, mean, one of the things that, you know, I want to see is just justice, right? Because the people like this is to me, it's gotten a point where it's beyond, oh, we just rushed this out and, you know, maybe there's some side effects, but it was for the greater good. I look at this and see this is criminal, you know, what's happening at this point is criminal.
• 34:00
  The continuation that you're right, to require that a six month old baby, you know, recommend that babies get vaccinated, yet not a 95 year old woman or an 18 year old healthy college student, not the 70 year old unhealthy teacher. So, do you think that there's any hope for some sort of Nuremberg type trial? Because to me, this is crimes against humanity.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be wonderful if we get to a justice phase right now, but there's been no admission of wrongdoing by any public health official or pharmaceutical manufacturer. So you have to go through the steps. So first would be, you know, admission of wrongdoing, so some type of repentance. Then we need, you know, an acknowledgment or some type of understanding for this, you know, forgiveness, and then ultimately to amnesty. And recently, Emily Oster wrote in The Atlantic that we should just jump to amnesty.
• 35:04
  Well, the the people have people in charge have not even, acknowledged, for instance, they were wrong on masks or that the vaccines haven't worked. And then the people who've been damaged by the vaccines don't seem to care, so there's no outrage in general. And so, you know, I think we are far, far away from Nuremberg trials. You people would actually have to care about what happens. And right now, we see death after death.
• 35:32
  The families don't seem to care. It's it's pretty easy to express outrage, and and we we just don't see it. We see public figures. No outrage. Actually, no recognition.
• 35:44
  Let me give you some examples. One, Deion Sanders, great player for Dallas Cowboys. He takes the vaccines, pushing the vaccines, holding seminars, videos, pushing the vaccines. He develops blood clots. They shoot to his feet, and he loses his toes, has amputations in the hospital, nearly loses his leg.
• 36:03
  I think he had nine surgeries. He has a family issue of a blood clotting disorder, and that's actually the setup for the vaccine to cause arterial blood clots, he makes an entire docu series, but he never mentions the vaccine. He never mentions the vaccine like a complete oblivion. We had Kirk Herbstreit, ESPN announcer, take the vaccines, COVID, take the vaccines anyway, then develop blood clots, can't go to the NFL draft, what have you, and then, you know, never mentions it again. We have Bruce Arians, former Tampa Bay Bucks Coast, takes multiple vaccines, pushes the vaccines, he's hospitalized with myocarditis.
• 36:50
  Weatherman Al Roker, publicly vaccinated on TV, vaccinated, vaccinated against COVID, blood clots hospitalized twice. No one's putting it together, saying, wait a minute, I took all these vaccines, I loaded my body with spike protein. Now the spike protein causes blood clots, causes heart damage. It's almost as if these people are in some type of trance, some type of oblivion. And it's almost like you and I care more about them than they care about themselves.
• 37:21
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it's a frightening place to be because we want justice. But if if no one else does, if a parent who loses their 18 year old son or their 12 year old daughter to this, if they're not fighting, what hope do we have? Now, I want to ask you a question about the blood clots that I'd seen on your Alex Jones interview that I think that you had one of your patients have developed clots a year and a half after taking the vaccine. So are we are you seeing more long term effects? Is it that, you know, that most of the stuff happens within the first, say, couple of weeks or months, or is it developing long term?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Most of it develops within thirty days, and it really trails off after this. The wild card is if someone gets COVID after taking the vaccine. So I've had a couple of people in my practice eighteen months after taking the vaccine, then they get COVID because the vaccines don't work, then they develop blood clots. I think this is what happened with Al Roker. So the setup for the blood clots is being preloaded with all the genetic material coding for the spike protein, so the body is already hyper, you know, hypercoagulable, and that's the setup.
• 38:37
  The same may be true for myocarditis. The vaccines don't seem to get out of the body, Pfizer and Moderna for sure. Janssen, I think, has a better chance of getting out of the body. Novavax should because there's no genetic material, but the spike protein that's produced by these vaccines stays in the body probably over a year and, may slowly clear out. So, this is greatly concerning for people who've taken multiple shots, who continue to take shots.
• 39:04
  People taking shots every six months, there's no way the body's going to clear this out. Yeah.
• 39:09
  Seth Holehouse: Now one of the questions I got from telegram, I'll read this to you, it says, how can we protect ourselves from vaccine shedding? Someone on telegram, they commented this, they said, had a massage in early twenty twenty two by a masseuse I didn't know was vaccinated. Shortly afterwards, I got neuropathy in both of my hands and forearms almost up to my elbow for weeks on end. It finally started dissipating, but my right hand still has neuropathy to this day. Also extreme body aches and soreness like I have arthritis.
• 39:36
  I'm only 50 and have never had any of this previously. It's worse in the mornings. And my hand gets so swollen and stiff that I can't make a fist. So that how would you like how do people protect themselves from shedding? And is that what this person described?
• 39:52
  Is that something that you're seeing happening?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Well, let's just talk about the, you know, the clinical diagnosis here. In order to ascertain if there is shedding, the person being described should have antibodies tested against the spike protein in the nucleocapsid. And, know, there's enough research assays around should actually have a research assay for the spike protein. So if the spike protein was found and antibodies were found against the spike protein and there was none against the nucleocapsid, then this person you described would be the very first person in world history to be proven to be a recipient of shedding. Otherwise, it's never been shown.
• 40:39
  So it's all circumstantial right now. So I'm a little disappointed in these purported cases that there isn't any pursuit of actually proving shedding or not. So I I I at this point in time, I just can't confirm that clinical shedding happens unless people start doing some homework and figuring out what's going on with their body.
• 41:02
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Absolutely. Which I think that that's just really what's one of the themes that I'm seeing in the show today is just that people have to be more proactive. If you understand what's happening, be more proactive. If you don't understand what's happening, be more proactive.
• 41:13
  We you know, it's almost as if the the American people especially, I can say you know here in America, I live in Ohio and I watch what's around me, that people have become just distracted with you know with bread and circuses and watching the Super Bowl and everything and we don't realize that there's in many ways a war being waged on us, and we're losing our young people, like you mentioned before, in like in greater numbers than any previous war.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Well, seem to be heading to some type of whatever the least, you know, effort pathway possible. So let's say in that person who got a massage, you know, the least effort pathway is to conclude, well, I had shedding, but without doing any work. How about pressing your doctors? How about getting the blood test? How about doing something to confirm it's shedding, then actually writing up the case so we can actually publish it to know that we've had a shedding event?
• 42:10
  I'll give you another example. Somebody in my close family circles has taken multiple shots and has a small fiber neuropathy, you know, and after multiple discussions and what have you, this person said, Well, you know, I'm not going to take any more shots. And I thought to myself, I said, you know, how about the rest of the world? Do you have any interest in warning others regarding this, or is it is it just about you? You know, does he have an interest to warn his wife not to get any more shots, or how about his kids?
• 42:43
  Or are people just so introspective at this point in time? Are they so ashamed and just looking within themselves that that they don't even care about warning others? You know, I've said this for these cardiac arrest victims. Know, going back to Damar Hamlet, you know, would want to tell people if he took the vaccine and it was vaccine induced cardiac arrest because other players are at risk. He would care about other players being at risk for cardiac events, but yet there's no mention or he says he doesn't want to go there.
• 43:16
  You know, the behavior of people right now, it is so bizarre. It is completely without compassion. It is completely without any concern for oneself or with one less. It's almost as if people have been converted into some type of emotionless set of zombies.
• 43:37
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah, it's I agree. And it's frightening. But I do hope that, you know, like people like yourself and what I'm doing and your book that more people can understand what's happening. I think there is a portion of the population that really gets it. You know, I go to these rear Araken tours and speak and you can see this there are people that are really fired up and energetic.
• 43:55
  The problem is it's such a small percentage of people. So, Doctor. McCollough, I know you have a meeting shortly after this, I want to be conscious of your time. But I want to bring up before we end just your book one more time, encourage folks to just actually really just go buy a copy. It's The Courage to Face COVID nineteen Preventing Hospitalization and Death while Bow while Battling the Biopharmaceutical Complex.
• 44:17
  So people can find that on any place that you're buying books. Just want to, again, thank you very much for what you're doing. And thank you as well for coming on the show today. Do you have any final closing thoughts?
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: You know, I think our mutual frustration on this interview really calls for the need is we need sociologists and psychologists to help us. What we've identified are sets of behaviors here all the way around that are out of the norms for humans living in civil societies. They're beyond all norms. People seem to be in some type of trance where they're readily accepting injury, disability, and death with the vaccines. No one seems to care about the next person who has one of these.
• 45:11
  The vaccines are still being pressed with no signs that they have any benefit, and they're being pressed on the people who need them the least, like six month old babies, children, university students. They're not even being pressed on the people who would theoretically benefit, which would be nursing home patients and workers. Everything we've talked about makes no sense whatsoever, is completely out of sorts. We didn't even cover the complete failure of masking and social distancing, the lack of early treatmentthat's the focus of our bookwe've got a long ways to go to get things back into normal operations. When you look around, the world looks like it's back in a normal state, but the human mind isn't thinking normally.
• 45:57
  I'll let that be the last word. I'm doctor Peter McCullough. Thanks for having me.
• 46:00
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you very much.