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#197 School Lunches with Jessica Rowe · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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  Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast.
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  Speaker 2: It's the podcast for the time poor parent who just
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  Speaker 2: wants answers.
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  Speaker 3: Now. I used to put far too much pressure on myself.
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  Speaker 4: To think I had to have all of that together,
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  Speaker 4: and the only person I was letting down was myself.
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  Speaker 1: And now here's the stars of our show, my mom
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  Speaker 1: and dad.
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  Speaker 5: Hello. This stock Justin Colson, the author of six books
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  Speaker 5: about raising happy families. And I'm here with my wife
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  Speaker 5: and co hosts missus Happy Families, Kylie, the mum to
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  Speaker 5: our six daughters. Today special guest, Kylie.
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  Speaker 1: We're here with Jessica Row today. I bet it feels
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  Speaker 1: awesome to have the kids all at school.
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  Speaker 3: Yay, I'm so relieved.
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  Speaker 5: It feels good, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's the best.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure I'm not the only one. When the holidays
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  Speaker 4: they were great. It was lovely to have downtime, but
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  Speaker 4: they were long. They were a long holiday.
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  Speaker 2: And I think when it backs, when it backs onto
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  Speaker 2: the year we had, they really did feel long, didn't they.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it did, and I think as well because for
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people it was still disruptive the break,
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  Speaker 4: you know, there was still with various Christmas plans.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, borders opening and closing all exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That uncertainty kept sort of rolling on.
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  Speaker 2: So oh yeah, yeah, Well I'm sitting there right with
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  Speaker 2: you on that on that couch. I am definitely grateful
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  Speaker 2: the kids are back at school. On Instagram, Jess, you're
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  Speaker 2: known as the self proclaimed a crap housewife.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even say that. It doesn't roll off my
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  Speaker 1: tongue very well.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't roll off your tongue because you're not like that, es.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not not making any comparisons, but Kylie.
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  Speaker 5: Kylie would feel a little uncomfortable if somebody walked into
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  Speaker 5: the house and said, you must be a crap housewife.
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  Speaker 5: Just don't know if she's gonna respond well to that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what, we do what works for us.
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  Speaker 4: And I have embraced being a crap housewife, Kylie. I
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  Speaker 4: have piles of washing, I've got dirty dishes in the sink.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a great cook.
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  Speaker 4: I used to put far too much pressure on myself
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  Speaker 4: to think I had to have all of that together,
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  Speaker 4: and the only person I was letting down was myself.
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  Speaker 4: I'd get myself in such a ladder, And so now
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  Speaker 4: I go, you know what, I'm enough. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 4: that I'm not good at this stuff, because I can
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  Speaker 4: be good at other things.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the key is you do what works
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  Speaker 3: for you and your family.
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  Speaker 1: I just love it.
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  Speaker 2: This week, it seems that you have made national headlines
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  Speaker 2: for exactly that we.
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  Speaker 5: Well, actually, it wasn't just making national headlines. Let's be clear.
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  Speaker 5: Here was this is Jess's daughter's lunchbox from twenty twenty
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  Speaker 5: that made national headlines.
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  Speaker 2: Can you tell us all why was your daughter's lunchbox
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  Speaker 2: making national headlines this week?
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  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, how hilarious that the lunchbox have
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  Speaker 4: made national headlines. Essentially, what happened? We're getting ready for
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  Speaker 4: back to school. I mean I'm doing star jumps this
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  Speaker 4: morning because both my girls are back at school now.
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  Speaker 3: But we were getting ready just the.
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  Speaker 4: Other day and I thought, okay, time to get the
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  Speaker 4: school bag ready, get the lunchboxes ready.
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  Speaker 3: Low and behold, in my.
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  Speaker 4: Youngest daughter's lunchbox was the lunch that we hadn't unpacked
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  Speaker 4: from last December.
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  Speaker 3: And you think they would.
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  Speaker 4: Have smelled it, but no, because it was in this
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  Speaker 4: cupboard under the stairs and a whole lot of other junk,
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  Speaker 4: so that was obviously sealing the smell in there, but
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  Speaker 4: I unzipped it, and oh my goodness, the smell, the
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  Speaker 4: stench in one tuple wear was just this green liquid
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  Speaker 4: and I'm not sure what it was. I think potentially
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  Speaker 4: it might have been some cucumbers that liquefied. And then
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  Speaker 4: in the other container, which is my daughter's favorite because
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  Speaker 4: it has seals on the front, I undid it and
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  Speaker 4: there were these I think they might have been might
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  Speaker 4: have been once grapes, and they were black and furry
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  Speaker 4: and just foul. So I just had to laughed because
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  Speaker 4: I just thought, I cannot believe this, and I posted
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  Speaker 4: it to my Instagram, and lo and behold. What I
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  Speaker 4: loved is that hundreds of other moms and dads responded
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  Speaker 4: with their foul lunch box stories, with similar things happening
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  Speaker 4: to them, feeling reassured that, oh my goodness, were not
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  Speaker 4: the only ones. Others sharing stories about how they'd had
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  Speaker 4: cheese and bacon rolls in their kids lunchboxes and they
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  Speaker 4: opened them and suddenly they thought they were tennis ball.
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  Speaker 5: Digusting.
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  Speaker 3: Is we've all been there.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure for you guys too, perhaps when
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  Speaker 4: you were younger, like I remember putting my hand in
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  Speaker 4: my school bag when I was probably about Giselle's age,
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  Speaker 4: which is eleven, and there was this powdery substance in
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  Speaker 4: the bottom and it was an orange.
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  Speaker 3: It was a whole orange.
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  Speaker 4: That had basically over the time, had just powered into
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  Speaker 4: this foul thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I do definitely remember the orange.
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  Speaker 3: All kind of boh. And I think the thing is
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  Speaker 3: what I love about.
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  Speaker 4: Instant because we hear negative things about social media, but
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  Speaker 4: what I love was hearing all these other people's stories.
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  Speaker 4: We can laugh at ourselves, we can think we are
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  Speaker 4: doing our best. And if you have that stenchy lunchbox
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  Speaker 4: every now and then, that's okay, because you know, today
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  Speaker 4: my daughter's got off to school with new lunchboxes with
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  Speaker 4: food that wasn't molded in the lunchboxes.
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  Speaker 3: So that's the wind.
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  Speaker 5: I'm just thinking about the detoxifying properties of five or
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  Speaker 5: six week old cucumber juice.
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  Speaker 2: There's no detoxifying crisis. They just go on the bin,
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  Speaker 2: don't they.
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  Speaker 4: Just I had to say to my daughter, I know
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  Speaker 4: that this is your favorite container with the seals on
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  Speaker 4: the lid, but I'm sorry, darling.
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  Speaker 5: God, So I've got I've got a serious question for you,
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  Speaker 5: jess self proclaimed crap housewife. You make no secret whatsoever
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  Speaker 5: that you're not much of a cook. You do what
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  Speaker 5: you do when you're okay with that, and we celebrate
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  Speaker 5: and love you for it. But what I would love
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  Speaker 5: to know is, as somebody who isn't into putting in
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  Speaker 5: a deep, wholehearted master chef effort when it comes to
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  Speaker 5: your children's lunch boxes, how do you how do you
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  Speaker 5: create something to go in the lunch box that they'll
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  Speaker 5: actually eat and not throw in the bin or bring.
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  Speaker 5: Oh well, maybe you don't. Maybe that's why you've got
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  Speaker 5: five week old cucumber there.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, you see.
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  Speaker 4: If someone had the answer to that, justin I would
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  Speaker 4: love to know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm open to any tips, any hints.
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  Speaker 4: Any suggestions, because like so many of us, you want
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  Speaker 4: to pack healthy food that they're going to eat that
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  Speaker 4: won't you won't to put all this sort of time
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  Speaker 4: into it and then they're unopened at the end.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I always start with good intentions.
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  Speaker 4: So I made both of my daughter's lunches this morning,
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  Speaker 4: but often we'll do a bit of a lunch order
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  Speaker 4: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Somehaps that's pretty good at the school canteen.
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  Speaker 5: You can't go wrong when you're spending any on someone
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  Speaker 5: else's food, right, that's right.
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  Speaker 4: So no, I have no qualms of doing that, but
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  Speaker 4: I honestly I wish I had the answer. I just
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I try and keep it simple. I'll
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  Speaker 4: put a treat in there as well. Of course, the
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  Speaker 4: treats always get eaten first, they do.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, an apple.
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  Speaker 4: I did get a little excited about new containers. So
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  Speaker 4: I found these containers that had like a little section
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  Speaker 4: for dip and another little section that you could put
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  Speaker 4: carrots in and cucumber. So I'm hoping that the new
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  Speaker 4: containers might inspire my daughters to eat the carrot and cucumber.
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  Speaker 5: The food's that much more attractive because it's in a
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  Speaker 5: container that's attractive.
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  Speaker 4: Right exactly, and that they can dip it in the
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  Speaker 4: other in the little they almost in it. So I honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I'm open to plenty of suggestions because you know what,
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  Speaker 4: keep it simple, they're not going to that. They won't starve.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if there's food in there, they're going to
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  Speaker 4: eat it.
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  Speaker 5: Today, I thought you were going to say, keep it simple,
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  Speaker 5: they're not going to eat it anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I reckon, Jess, If you carry on listening, You're
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  Speaker 2: going to find out that we've got some tips that
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  Speaker 2: just might help you as well as everybody else with
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  Speaker 2: this whole lunchbox.
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  Speaker 3: Dill Emma, I am listening. I need all the help
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  Speaker 3: I can get. Hid.
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  Speaker 2: It's a Happy Families podcast, the podcast for the time
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  Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers.
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  Speaker 5: Now, you've made some big promises to Jessica Rowe. That
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  Speaker 5: was such a fun conversation. I truly cannot believe that
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  Speaker 5: it was one of the biggest news stories over the
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  Speaker 5: last week.
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  Speaker 2: Like seriously, it is a little bit sad that a
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  Speaker 2: lunchbox is what makes national news these days.
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  Speaker 5: It's better than reading about Donald Trump. So what what
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  Speaker 5: are your hacks? Because you've made this big promise, Jessica's
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  Speaker 5: got to get these tips so that you can actually
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  Speaker 5: get a kids to eat lunch. What do you reckon?
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  Speaker 5: We can do about this? By the way, I have
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  Speaker 5: to mention something that has worked for one of our
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  Speaker 5: fussy kids is that I just love this. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know where you got the idea. You've made toasted sandwiches
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  Speaker 5: in the morning, let them cool off, put them in
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  Speaker 5: the lunch box, and the kids are eating toasted cold sandwiches.
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  Speaker 5: What's with that?
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  Speaker 1: There wasn't even a crust left in the lunch box.
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  Speaker 1: That was what was really exciting.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it is, but they love toasted sandwiches,
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  Speaker 2: and I thought, I'll just give it a go because
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  Speaker 2: they won't eat sandwiches.
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  Speaker 5: They're eating them cold. They're eating toasted sandwiches four hours
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  Speaker 5: later cold. So that's our number one hack. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: just try it. You never know what else have you got.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I was really just thinking around the whole dilemma
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  Speaker 2: that Jess had, So it wasn't necessarily about what goes
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  Speaker 2: in the lunch box as much as how.
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  Speaker 1: Can we make sure that doesn't happen at.
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  Speaker 3: The other end.
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  Speaker 2: And these days schools are actually putting a lot of
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  Speaker 2: parameters around parents on what what can.
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  Speaker 5: And can't go to school. And also you've got to
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  Speaker 5: make sure that you bring off the rubbish home and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I was thinking more along those lines. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the big dilemmas for parents these days is that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of schools are saying they don't want disposable
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  Speaker 2: plastic wraps coming to school, and if they do, they
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  Speaker 2: have to come home.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like you clean rap sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so one of the things that I've done
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  Speaker 2: this year, which has been brilliant. My sister actually brought
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  Speaker 2: them for me for Christmas, is those reusable.
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  Speaker 1: Zip block bags. They're brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: So they've got beautiful little patterns on them, and the
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  Speaker 2: kids know they're there's stick the treats, and then they
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  Speaker 2: come home and get washed.
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  Speaker 1: So that's been awesome.
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  Speaker 5: There is still a risk though, that a cucumber left
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  Speaker 5: in one of those for five weeks could still turn
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  Speaker 5: into some kind of fetid reduced juice of something.
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  Speaker 2: So my tip for Jess on that one is maybe
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  Speaker 2: check the lunch bag at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 5: Or at least at the end of the term. Don't
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  Speaker 5: wait for the whole summer holiday to go on. What
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  Speaker 5: else have we got?
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  Speaker 1: There's beeswax wraps these days.
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  Speaker 2: There's my favorite is just you know, your generic container
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  Speaker 2: with the label that is working for me.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason it's working for me is I can.
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  Speaker 2: Put a piece of fruit in there and doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: squashed because everyone's had a squash banana at some point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So we've actually started using containers for pretty much everything.
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  Speaker 5: The fruit goes into a container, the sandwich goes in,
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  Speaker 5: not wrapped, it just goes into a sandwich size container
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  Speaker 5: with the lid on. It keeps it fresh enough, especially
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  Speaker 5: once it's a toasted sandwich, and it doesn't have to
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  Speaker 5: be kept quite so fresh. So the containers are a
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  Speaker 5: really great hack for keeping lunch boxes clean, not having
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  Speaker 5: too much excess rubbish. That's a really nice way to
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  Speaker 5: move forward with that.
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  Speaker 2: Keeping things cool that's really tricky at times too. And
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  Speaker 2: people think that you could buy these insulated lunch boxes
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  Speaker 2: and you stick everything in and it.
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  Speaker 5: Will keep it cool.
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  Speaker 2: What you have to realize is whatever temperature you put
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  Speaker 2: the food in too, that insulated box is what it's
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  Speaker 2: going to stay at.
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  Speaker 5: So the kids the other day did something so funny.
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  Speaker 5: They filled up their water bottles the night before stuck
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  Speaker 5: them in the fridge. We've got the insulated water bottles,
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  Speaker 5: They've put the lids on, stuck them in the fridge
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  Speaker 5: and they've pulled them out the next day and they're
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  Speaker 5: the same temperature. Well, their bottles cold. The bottom the
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  Speaker 5: water's the same temperature as when it came out of
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  Speaker 5: the tap because theation kept the temperature the same. So
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  Speaker 5: it's got to go in cold and then it'll stay cold.
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  Speaker 5: That's the tip with the insulated stuff.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, using those ice bricks is helpful. But
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  Speaker 1: freeze your poppers.
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  Speaker 2: Some kids really enjoy having frozen grapes, and you can
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  Speaker 2: freeze your muffins. One of the things that our friends
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  Speaker 2: used to do, which I actually thought was brilliant. I've
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  Speaker 2: never done it, but they would buy a fresh loaf
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  Speaker 2: of bread, they would make ten or twelve, you know,
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  Speaker 2: vegymite sandwiches right on the spot, and then they would
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  Speaker 2: stick it in the freezer and the kids would literally
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  Speaker 2: just pull out a frozen sandwich each day. And at
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  Speaker 2: the time it sounded awful, like I just I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: get my head around a frozen sandwich. But when you
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  Speaker 2: eat a sandwich that has just frosted on fresh bread,
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  Speaker 2: it's literally like a fresh sandwich. You don't have that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when the spread kind of gets manky and
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  Speaker 2: it kind of just absorbs into the bread.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the bread sort of defrosts through the day
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  Speaker 5: and the kids are having a fairly fresh sandwich. So
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  Speaker 5: let me do a quick summary, because our time is
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  Speaker 5: running out. We want to make sure that we're using containers,
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  Speaker 5: not sending a whole lot of rubbish to school. In
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  Speaker 5: terms of food, you're suggesting freezing the food, keeping the
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  Speaker 5: food cold because it feels and tastes fresher. You've suggested
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  Speaker 5: things like frozen grapes. You could do the same with
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  Speaker 5: frozen oranges.
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  Speaker 1: Kids really like it in our heat. It's awesome, right,
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  Speaker 1: you get.
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  Speaker 5: In an Australian summer. This is a really nice way
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  Speaker 5: to go. What are the tips, hints, hacks and someone
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  Speaker 5: have you got for making lunch boxes work in terms
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  Speaker 5: of keeping everything fresh and getting the kids to eat it.
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  Speaker 2: So, I guess the big thing with getting kids to
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  Speaker 2: eat it is getting them involved in the process. So
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the school year, we sit down
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  Speaker 2: with the kids. I say, all right, well, you got
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  Speaker 2: sick of the lunches we did last year, what are
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  Speaker 2: we going to do this year to just kind of
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  Speaker 2: improve what we're doing? And they'll go through the recipe book,
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  Speaker 2: they'll find a few different recipes. Might be an apple
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  Speaker 2: muffin this year that they want to They're willing to
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  Speaker 2: try and I.
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  Speaker 1: Give it a go.
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  Speaker 5: So it's just about experimentation, and it sounds like it's
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  Speaker 5: actually about intention as well. You've got to You're saying,
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  Speaker 5: make the effort. If you make the effort, it'll work.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the kids go off soundwiches and you start
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  Speaker 5: doing wraps, they go off raps, so you start doing
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  Speaker 5: toasted sound, which.
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  Speaker 2: Is I think we're variety going to help the process.
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  Speaker 2: If you have a vegiemite sandwich every day for you know.
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  Speaker 5: Am or a year, it's gross.
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  Speaker 1: It gets really boring.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing that our children love has leftovers. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I love leftovers too, but I'm sacrificing leftovers. They take
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  Speaker 5: the leftovers to school and I know that they're going
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  Speaker 5: to have a good lunch. So you know, if you
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  Speaker 5: have lasagna the night before, stick it in a container,
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  Speaker 5: give them a plastic spoon or fork, and they are
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  Speaker 5: in heaven. They think it's fantastic, even if it's cold.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we hope you've enjoyed the podcast, and Jess, I'm
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  Speaker 2: hoping that you're not going to find any green liquid
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  Speaker 2: in your lunch box at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 5: It's such a greass story. I still can't believe it
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  Speaker 5: made national news headlines, but I can imagine the sixty
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  Speaker 5: minutes expose a current affairs sneaking into Jessica Roe's house
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  Speaker 5: to check out the kids lunch boxes at the end
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  Speaker 5: of next summer. You know, this is a very crap
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  Speaker 5: housewife here so much fun. If you've enjoyed our podcast,
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  Speaker 5: by the way, please tell other people about it. Just
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  Speaker 5: out about the podcast and we get to make other
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