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Credlin | 6 May · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandlin live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: on Credline tonight. Well, first he said there'll be no
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Speaker 2: changes to capital gains and negative gearing. But now the
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Speaker 2: big broken promise because of so called intergenerational equity. But
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Speaker 2: if the bm SO convinced the changes are necessary, why
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Speaker 2: would he take them to an election?
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Speaker 3: Is howard? Did? Short?
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Speaker 4: And did?
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you when they're coming in more on that.
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Speaker 2: Shortly three people from Northern Territories Child Protection Department stood
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Speaker 2: down over their failures in the lead up to the
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Speaker 2: death of that little five year old girl. As pressure
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Speaker 2: mounts for an intervention into Aboriginal town camps. Plus the
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Speaker 2: grim milestone about to be reached when it comes to
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Speaker 2: illegal boat arrivals in the UK, all heaping more pressure
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Speaker 2: on the Embattle Prime Minister ahead of crucial local elections
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Speaker 2: on the weekend. And they're almost here, those Islamic State
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Speaker 2: women and their children to touch down in Australia.
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Speaker 5: They are allowing them to come back to Australia. They
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Speaker 5: went to join their Arsis fighter husbands who supported the
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Speaker 5: Arsis Caliphate, who are no friends of Western democracy or
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Speaker 5: the freedoms we enjoy here.
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Speaker 2: I will come back to that in a moment, but first,
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister is fully himself if he thinks he
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Speaker 2: can keep breaking election promises and not pay an electoral price,
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Speaker 2: given that Labour's primary vote is now being hit by
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Speaker 2: the Greens on the left and One Nation on the right,
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Speaker 2: not just the Liberals but labor too. Now, you might
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Speaker 2: have gotten away with a broken promise to cut your
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Speaker 2: power bill by two hundred and seventy five dollars per year,
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Speaker 2: and that broken promise to keep the Stage three tax cuts,
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Speaker 2: but they were last term when the Opposition thought it
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Speaker 2: could just coast back into government on the back of
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Speaker 2: the Voice defeat.
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Speaker 3: But these new tax hits.
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Speaker 2: All but announced now ahead of Tuesday's budget, have a
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Speaker 2: far more widespread impact on real people than Labour real lizes.
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Speaker 2: The vast majority of people with an investment property are
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Speaker 2: modest way journers. To thirds of them earn less than
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Speaker 2: eighty thousand a year. That's just less than average journeys,
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Speaker 2: and far from being property tycoons. Seventy percent of them
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Speaker 2: just have one home or a little flat to their name.
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Speaker 2: They are teachers, nurses, tradees and police officers, people who
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Speaker 2: work hard to get ahead but are not sophisticated investors
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Speaker 2: used to the stock market. Hence they buy a property,
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Speaker 2: and yet they are the ones that labor, the ones
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Speaker 2: proud party of the worker is targeting if their costs
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Speaker 2: go up or so two do weekly rents, and if
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Speaker 2: investors leave the market, that's an immediate reduction in the
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Speaker 2: number of places available to lease. Not only is it
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Speaker 2: dumb policy, but it's also stupid politics. What all the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister has done for the past four years is
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Speaker 2: promise that he would not do what he clearly is
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Speaker 2: about to announce, and to make sure Australians understand just
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Speaker 2: how big this latest broken promise really is. Well, finally
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Speaker 2: it looks like the coalition has got its act together.
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Speaker 2: I want you to say tonight, categorically, negative gearing is
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Speaker 2: off the table.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's off the table.
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Speaker 7: Will you guarantee that you won't touch negative gearing and
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Speaker 7: capital gains tax concessions?
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Speaker 8: Well, we have no plans to touch it or change
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Speaker 8: negative gearing.
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Speaker 9: So do you rule out changes to negative gearing if elected?
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Speaker 4: Yes or not?
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Speaker 8: I told people we wouldn't make changes. The proof's in
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Speaker 8: the putting Andrew. If we're going to make changes, then
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Speaker 8: why haven't we so people can see what we've done.
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Speaker 3: Right now is negative gearing? Are you going to touch
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Speaker 3: it or not? Is it changing?
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Speaker 10: We have no plans okaya gearing?
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Speaker 4: It's negative gearing. Is it really off the agenda or not?
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Speaker 4: It's off the agenda. Rus We've made that really clear.
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Speaker 3: Consider hearing the policy out of the election.
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Speaker 11: No, so you completely rule it now together was pretty clear.
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Speaker 3: And authorized by Apos Liberal camera. There you go.
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Speaker 2: Anthony Albanezy is a fraud, says the Liberal Party. For
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Speaker 2: its part, Labor will say that things have changed, things
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Speaker 2: like the Iran War, the treasure. Jim Chalmer says he's
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Speaker 2: doing the right thing for the right reasons and that's
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Speaker 2: how you build trust, even if it means breaking promises.
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Speaker 3: But what's changed in just.
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Speaker 2: Twelve months to make abolishing negative gearing and ending the
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Speaker 2: tax discount so wrong?
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Speaker 12: Then?
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Speaker 3: But somehow okay? Now?
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Speaker 2: Is it because they were chasing votes? Then well sure
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Speaker 2: that's part of it, but clearly it's also the bad
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Speaker 2: state of the budget books that's got charmers desperate for
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Speaker 2: more cash. And it's the hardage way too. That Labour
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Speaker 2: plays politics. It knows that the Coalition is still trying
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Speaker 2: to deal with the One nation fight on its right flank,
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Speaker 2: and with a massive Seed majority in the House, Labour's
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Speaker 2: not going to waste any time using that to ram
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Speaker 2: through as much of its green left gender as possible.
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Speaker 2: If they had their way, there'd be no private landlords
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Speaker 2: in the market at all, just social housing, welfare housing
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Speaker 2: funded by you, the taxpayer. And yes, they're happy enough
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Speaker 2: now for there to be people to own their own homes.
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Speaker 2: They won't want you to make money from them or
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Speaker 2: pass them down to your children. That's why Labour loves
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Speaker 2: the idea of a wealth tax as well or death duties,
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Speaker 2: and I promise you they will come soon as well.
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Speaker 2: Labor thinks that a three hundred dollars cash hand out
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Speaker 2: next week will make you forget about these broken promises,
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Speaker 2: but that cash splash will only make pressures worse, make
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Speaker 2: inflation worse, something the normally guarded Reserve Bank governor herself
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Speaker 2: was forced to criticize.
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Speaker 12: All I'm saying is that the extent to which government
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Speaker 12: make up the shortfalls for household by giving them more money,
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Speaker 12: it makes it harder to damp and demand. The bottom
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Speaker 12: line though, on all of this is this shock has
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Speaker 12: it's an real income shock for Australia and the world.
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Speaker 12: Australians are poorer. The recent cash rate increases have been
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Speaker 12: to address the excess demand that existed in the economy
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Speaker 12: prior to the Middle East conflict.
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Speaker 2: Yesterday the cash rate went up by twenty five bases points.
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Speaker 2: So if you've got a mortgage, an average mortgage, that's
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Speaker 2: another seventeen hundred dollars this year on top of the
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Speaker 2: other rate hikes, meaning that the three hundred from Albow
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Speaker 2: and Jim on Tuesday night, well that's already gone, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Not only economically hopeless, they're lies as well. I tellya,
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Speaker 2: Canberra is looking more and more like Victoria every day.
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Speaker 2: Speaking of labor lies, the government says it's done nothing
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Speaker 2: at all to facilitate the return of this so called
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Speaker 2: Isis briars. I call them terrorist accomplices. But regardless, they're
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Speaker 2: coming back to Australia tomorrow. Earlier today, both a Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister and his minister tried to talk tough, but they're
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Speaker 2: not fooling anyone.
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Speaker 11: They can expect to face the full force of the
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Speaker 11: law without exception.
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Speaker 8: We have not provided any assistance, nor will we involved
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Speaker 8: in those actions of the Syrian government were provided no
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Speaker 8: assistance for these people, were not repatriating them.
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you how it works. I'll tell you how
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Speaker 3: the law works.
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Speaker 2: None of these terrorists connected individuals could bore their Katah
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Speaker 2: Airlines flights without Australian passport or a valid Australian visa. Now,
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Speaker 2: the fact that they have these travel documents is only
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Speaker 2: because the Almineza government has assisted them and given them
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Speaker 2: to them. So let's end the charade of no one's
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Speaker 2: helping them.
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Speaker 3: Please.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what's worse a government than claims it
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Speaker 2: could do nothing to stop undesirables from entering Australia or
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Speaker 2: a government that for stilitates the re entry of these
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Speaker 2: people who pledge their allegiance to the Islamist death cult
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Speaker 2: dedicated to the destruction of our way of life. This
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Speaker 2: government is either totally impotent or pathologically untruthful, maybe a
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Speaker 2: bit of both. On top of giving three thousand tourists
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Speaker 2: visas to scarcely vetted gardens. Some have been brought up
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Speaker 2: from birth to hate Jews and the Western way of life.
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Speaker 2: Now labor is welcoming the latest batch of terrorist sympathizers.
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Speaker 2: Here they are, all of them en route to Australia,
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Speaker 2: clad in their burkers and nicubs. Do these look like
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Speaker 2: the sort of people who can sincerely make our citizenship
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Speaker 2: oath pledging allegiance to Australia and its people, who quote
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Speaker 2: whose democratic beliefs I share and whose rights and liberties
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Speaker 2: I respect? We only have to ask that question to
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Speaker 2: know the answer. But ask yourself this. If a government
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Speaker 2: that can't say no to a group of women who
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Speaker 2: forfeited all moral rights to to Australia, how on earth
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Speaker 2: are they ever going to stand up to serious enemies
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Speaker 2: like Beijing, or be brave enough to tackle the cancer
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Speaker 2: of radical Islam that's fast spreading here and across the
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Speaker 2: Western world. That's another question that's answered as soon as
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Speaker 2: it's posed, isn't it. I will come back to the
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Speaker 2: issue of those Islamic state sympathizers. Would be extremists, could
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Speaker 2: be terrorists.
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Speaker 3: We don't know.
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Speaker 2: Government's telling us very little at all, but we'll get
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Speaker 2: the headlines first from Reuben Spargo.
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Speaker 7: The opposition is calling on the Albanese government to exhaust
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Speaker 7: every option to block the return of so called isis
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Speaker 7: brides to Australia. More than a dozen women and children
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Speaker 7: with links to Islamic states are expected to arrive tomorrow evening.
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Speaker 13: The government should have made every possible effort to keep
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Speaker 13: these people out of the country.
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Speaker 11: There are very serious limits on what can be done
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Speaker 11: with respect to preventing a citizen of a country returning
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Speaker 11: to their country.
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Speaker 7: Authorities have confirmed some individuals will be arrested and charged
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Speaker 7: on their arrival. Australia stockpile of diesel and jet fuel
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Speaker 7: will be increased to fifty days as part of a
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Speaker 7: new ten billion dollar fuel security package. The vast bulk
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Speaker 7: of money will help finance more shipments. Three billion dollars
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Speaker 7: will be used for a new government owned fuel reserve.
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Speaker 8: This is aimed at making sure that Australians can have
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Speaker 8: more confidence in protecting our energy sovereignty.
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Speaker 7: The Prime Minister is also looking at creating or expanding
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Speaker 7: the nation's too refineries. Labor will implement major tax reforms
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Speaker 7: within the current term of government as it targets negative
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Speaker 7: gearing and capital gains tax discounts. Sources told Skin Used
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Speaker 7: there is no intention to seek a fresh electoral mandate.
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Speaker 7: This will be one of the most responsible budgets that
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Speaker 7: people have seen.
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Speaker 13: This government has the tax moll because they've run out
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Speaker 13: of money, they're going to conduct some kind of intergenerational warfare.
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Speaker 7: Anthony Albanezi ruled out negative gearing and CGT changes ahead
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Speaker 7: of the twenty twenty five election.
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Speaker 2: I will mention their fresh electoral mandate. They haven't even
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Speaker 2: got their first electoral mandate. I'll come back to some
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Speaker 2: of these issues, of course, I'll come back to these
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Speaker 2: Lamic state women in a moment with our security expert
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Speaker 2: Peter Jennings. Let's get into everything else. Of course, the
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Speaker 2: revelations today from Andrew Clanel when it comes to the
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Speaker 2: timing of these changes to housing taxes, have.
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Speaker 4: A listen well, Kieran.
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Speaker 9: The male that I've got is that whatever tax changes
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Speaker 9: are announcing the next Tuesday, and we know negative gearing
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Speaker 9: capital gains are definitely there, maybe trusts they'll be implemented
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Speaker 9: this term. So there has been some suggestion that the
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Speaker 9: changes might come into effect twenty twenty eight, and therefore
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Speaker 9: they could say they have a mandate for them. I'm
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Speaker 9: told that's not even been under consideration.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now, the Panel National Affairs Editor at The
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Speaker 2: Daily Telly Sky host James Morrow and senior fellow at
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Speaker 2: the Menses Research Center Nick Cata Well Clenell was reporting
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Speaker 2: there either July this year or next year to be
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Speaker 2: the likely start dates for these tax hits. I suspect
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Speaker 2: it's going to be sooner rather than later, because otherwise
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Speaker 2: people will have twelve months to dispose of housing stock
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Speaker 2: and that will impact the amount of money coming into
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Speaker 2: the government.
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Speaker 3: But they've ruled them out repeatedly.
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Speaker 2: You've seen that ad from the Liberal Party, Nick Cata,
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Speaker 2: and yet they're going to ram them through without any
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Speaker 2: sort of political mandate.
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Speaker 14: It's the height of arrogance, isn't it, Pete. I mean,
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Speaker 14: it strikes me that Alban Easy got carried away with
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Speaker 14: the idea he had a massive majority in the House
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Speaker 14: and thinks he can do anything. He thinks that the
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Speaker 14: difficulties shall we say that the Liberal and National Party's
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Speaker 14: are experiencing at the moment, means that he can just
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Speaker 14: move ahead and do whatever he wants. I don't think
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Speaker 14: that's true. I think eventually people will tire of this
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Speaker 14: Prime minister who can't lie straight in bed. He's lying
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Speaker 14: about lying today, he's trying to insist that he hasn't
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Speaker 14: broken his promise on capital gains tax. He clearly is
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Speaker 14: about to do just that. He's softening us up for it.
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Speaker 14: What does anything that comes out of this Prime Minister's
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Speaker 14: mouth mean anymore? And what faith can people put on it? So,
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Speaker 14: if you're investing in housing a year ago on the
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Speaker 14: basis that the Prime Minister said he wasn't going to
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Speaker 14: touch negative gearing and capital gain sax, You've made a mistake.
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Speaker 14: You trusted this man. I think it's a disgrace.
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Speaker 3: Well, they took it to.
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Speaker 2: An election in twenty nineteen that was rejected, They ruled
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Speaker 2: it out in twenty twenty two, they ruled it out
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. And you can see from that
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Speaker 2: Ad James that all the way along they have repeatedly
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Speaker 2: been asked questions and he puts his hand on his
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Speaker 2: heart and says he wasn't wouldn't do it, And clearly
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Speaker 2: it's coming Tuesday night. They think they can sweeten people
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Speaker 2: with three hundred dollars, but they'll be losing thousands if
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Speaker 2: they lose these tax breaks. What I don't understand is
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Speaker 2: that these are labor people. You know, they're modest income earners.
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Speaker 2: They only own vast majority of them one place. It's
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Speaker 2: their retirement that they're not rich share traders. There are
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Speaker 2: every diordinary Australians and I aspire to get ahead and
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Speaker 2: at every opportunity this government's kicking them in the head.
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Speaker 1: Well, and it's not only that, Petter, you know, this
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Speaker 1: whole intergenerational warfare idea is so utterly dishonest. Let's put
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Speaker 1: aside the fact that Labour's mandate is what thirty something
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Speaker 1: percent of the primary vote, and you know, put that
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Speaker 1: all to one side. This whole idea that punishing older
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Speaker 1: Australians who saved you done exactly what we told them
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Speaker 1: to do for decades so that they would be able
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Speaker 1: to have a dignified retirement and not be a burden
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Speaker 1: on the public purse. That you would do this massive
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Speaker 1: rug pull on them Tuesday night. That's disgraceful. But this
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Speaker 1: intergenerational point also needs to be examined because the fact
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Speaker 1: of the matter is if you change the rules around
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Speaker 1: capital gains tax not just for property but for other
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Speaker 1: asset classes, that means that young Australians are twenties to
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Speaker 1: thirties people in gen Z's You know this denies them
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Speaker 1: the ability to build assets and wealth for their own retirement.
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Speaker 1: So this is actually going to make everybody poor. And
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Speaker 1: don't forget those younger Australians. They also have to pay
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Speaker 1: off the trillion dollars plus in debt and interest that's
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Speaker 1: coming at them.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the canceled nation building project today. This
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Speaker 2: is Inland Rail. Now, I thought this was a fared
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Speaker 2: income national building program. It was a rail freight corridor
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Speaker 2: to complete our Eye and Highway I like to call
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Speaker 2: it between Melbourne and Brisbane. And we talk about getting
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Speaker 2: trucks off the road. We now our population is increasing,
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Speaker 2: the demand on transport movements is huge. Labor scrapped it
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Speaker 2: saying that at forty five billion it costs too much.
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Speaker 2: Now hang on here, Nick Kta, I'm alive. To the
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Speaker 2: Victorian state budget. They're spending two hundred billion, two hundred
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Speaker 2: billion on a really controversial suburban rail loop in Melbourne,
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Speaker 2: a train to nowhere that nobody wants. Nobody wants to
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Speaker 2: hundred billion. The fedsil tip money into it again on
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Speaker 2: Tuesday night, and yet they're scrapping a project like this.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, as my wife put it, this afternoon, you know
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Speaker 14: they're turning inland rail into a white elephant in order
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Speaker 14: to pump money into a black hole. That's essentially it. Look,
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Speaker 14: why stop building this very important piece of infrastructure that
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Speaker 14: would take at the very least you'd think this government
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Speaker 14: will be interested in taking diesel trucks off the road.
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Speaker 14: Anybody who's driven the Hume Highway, you know anytime after
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Speaker 14: seven pm the Pacific Highway exactly the same. It's one
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Speaker 14: wall of steel, one truck after the other. This was
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Speaker 14: a genuine national initiative that would get trucks off the road.
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Speaker 14: It would create a logistics super highway on rail. You
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Speaker 14: could power it by electricity if that's what Chris Bowen
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Speaker 14: wants to do, it doesn't really matter. But this was
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Speaker 14: genuine long term infrastructure that had a profitable future. Instead,
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Speaker 14: they're putting money into this suburban rail which is just
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Speaker 14: the most mystifying piece of nonsense infrastructure I've ever come across.
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Speaker 14: And of course it's now what two hundred billion dollars
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Speaker 14: I think is the latest estimate. Who knows what it'll
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Speaker 14: pick up. You might know better than I do, Peter.
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Speaker 14: But which people will actually be served by this rail network?
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Speaker 14: Not too many. I don't think no.
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Speaker 2: One wants that, Nick, No one wants it at two
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Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars. Given the government in Victoria's inability to count,
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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you it won't stop there it or
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Speaker 2: rise the costs even further. I want to pick up
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Speaker 2: James two things out of the Bondlow Royal Commission that
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Speaker 2: I think are pretty interesting. For first, this admission New
17:42
Speaker 2: South Wales police were worn five years ago that they
17:46
Speaker 2: had a critical gap in the way in which they
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Speaker 2: licensed firearms in the state. And it begs the obvious question.
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Speaker 2: I've been banging on about this for a good ten
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Speaker 2: years in government and ten years out of government. Now
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Speaker 2: there is not a fairing, digital registered national register of
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Speaker 2: firearms in this country. There should be talk about nation building.
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Speaker 2: That's got to be done. But also these dramatic scenes
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Speaker 2: this morning at the Royal Commission where a pro palaestinating
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Speaker 2: and activist turned up wearing a T shirt with a
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Speaker 2: swastika on it. Here's how it's played out.
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Speaker 11: Can I not enjoy a latte on a Sydney street?
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Speaker 15: I have business in town and I wear this all
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Speaker 15: the time. Oh, we're talking about the genocide in Gaza.
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Speaker 15: The six wars that Israel has performed around the world.
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Speaker 15: I can't sit by and what's watch this happen?
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Speaker 2: What does that have to do with a royal commission
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Speaker 2: after a Bonnie terror attack.
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Speaker 15: I'm sorry, I'm just I'm enjoying a cup of coffee
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Speaker 15: in the streets of Sydney. Why I'm being assailed in
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Speaker 15: such fashion? I have been asked to move on on
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Speaker 15: a public street. Such is the state of protest in
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Speaker 15: New South Wales.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like all those lefty feminists now to side
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Speaker 2: they hate women. Here you've got a bloke on the left,
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Speaker 2: clearly pro Palestinian type, who's now wearing a fascist Nazi.
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Speaker 3: Symbol, James.
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Speaker 2: It's the bizarre nature of this intersectionality where I think,
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Speaker 2: really the left and the right become a horseshoe at
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Speaker 2: the crazy end. And he's absolutely at the crazy end.
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Speaker 2: But why do Jews have to put up with this?
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Speaker 3: And it's not good enough?
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Speaker 2: Fifteen of their own dead Australians are not just long buried,
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Speaker 2: and they're having a Royal commission and people are going
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Speaker 2: in traumatized giving evidence and that clown's out the front.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's the thing. Piter I mean,
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Speaker 1: you could look at that person and I think clown
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Speaker 1: is exactly the word to use for that person. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he was clearly playing to the cameras. He was almost
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Speaker 1: doing sort of a very sort of dark version of
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Speaker 1: the old Democracy manifest guy routine. But you know, putting
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Speaker 1: that aside, look at the evidence that we've been getting
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Speaker 1: in this Royal Commission. And this is the thing. Anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism is such an indicator of a deeper problem in
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Speaker 1: a society. You know, whenever that starts to pop up,
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Speaker 1: and it's been popping up all over the place since
20:10
Speaker 1: October seventh, since before October seventh, you know you've got
20:14
Speaker 1: a problem, and no Jews should not have to put
20:17
Speaker 1: up with this. And the thing I've said to you,
20:19
Speaker 1: I think on this program before, is that we want
20:21
Speaker 1: a society where a Jewish house of worship or a
20:25
Speaker 1: Jewish school requires exactly the same amount of security as
20:28
Speaker 1: say a Catholic school or a Catholic church service, and
20:31
Speaker 1: that is to say nothing special. We want to get
20:34
Speaker 1: back to that. And it is just obscene to me
20:38
Speaker 1: that we have allowed this cancer to grow unabated in
20:41
Speaker 1: our society, and far too many people, particularly on the left,
20:45
Speaker 1: particularly in labor, have looked the other way, have tacitly
20:48
Speaker 1: encouraged it, often for very cynical electoral purposes. And that
20:53
Speaker 1: is why I think this Royal Commission is so important.
20:56
Speaker 1: But people need to not look away at the evidence,
20:59
Speaker 1: Peter that's being generated out of this.
21:03
Speaker 2: I will leave it there, gentlemen, thank you. All right,
21:05
Speaker 2: let's go back to the issue of the Islamic state women.
21:07
Speaker 2: Confirmation today that a group of four women nine children
21:11
Speaker 2: will shortly arrived back into Australia. They're all on Qatar
21:14
Speaker 2: Airways flights. They land about this time tomorrow night, one
21:18
Speaker 2: into Sydney, one into Melbourne. Now we had the government
21:21
Speaker 2: out there today though when the news broke beating their chess.
21:25
Speaker 2: This is Tony Burke and doing his best to sound tough.
21:29
Speaker 11: They can expect to face the full force of the
21:33
Speaker 11: law without exception.
21:36
Speaker 2: Well mate, you've got the laws, now use them before
21:40
Speaker 2: they even get to Australia. But he's the Prime Minister
21:42
Speaker 2: as well.
21:44
Speaker 8: We have not provided any assistance, nor will we involved
21:48
Speaker 8: in those actions of the Syrian government. Were provided no
21:53
Speaker 8: assistance for these people, were not repatriating.
21:55
Speaker 3: Them, right, Jornaman.
21:58
Speaker 2: Now Sky's Defense and National Security Outalyte Jennings Well, I
22:01
Speaker 2: dusted off my copy of the Passports Act, Peter, and
22:04
Speaker 2: there's plenty of provisions in there now where they could
22:08
Speaker 2: stop anyone boarding a flight and landing back in this country.
22:11
Speaker 2: In fact, they've facilitating their access. They have helped them,
22:14
Speaker 2: despite what the government says. They've given them a passport,
22:17
Speaker 2: they've given them access to land in Australia. Why don't
22:21
Speaker 2: they use the powers they've got.
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Speaker 16: Well, they're not using the powers they've got because they
22:28
Speaker 16: don't want to. That's the only conclusion one can come to, Peter.
22:32
Speaker 16: They could have denied issuing new passports. They didn't do that.
22:36
Speaker 16: They could have issued temporary exclusion orders, all on the
22:39
Speaker 16: basis of I think a reasonable apprehension of concern that
22:43
Speaker 16: these people might have terrorist sympathies, and the government has
22:47
Speaker 16: chosen not to do that. So the only remaining conclusion
22:51
Speaker 16: is to say that they're quite content to see them
22:53
Speaker 16: come to Australia. Not content enough to defend it publicly,
22:57
Speaker 16: but quite content to let it happen. And course they'll
23:00
Speaker 16: have to deal with the long tail implications of what
23:02
Speaker 16: that means in terms of how we engage with these
23:05
Speaker 16: people once they're here.
23:08
Speaker 2: Okay, so I make the point again, if they've got
23:11
Speaker 2: enough to arrest them, as Burke says upon landing, according
23:15
Speaker 2: to the Passports Act, having something to arrest them about
23:18
Speaker 2: is enough grounds to cancel or deny a passport. Clearly
23:21
Speaker 2: is not going down that path. But why the subterfuge.
23:25
Speaker 2: Why aren't we having a press conference naming these women.
23:28
Speaker 2: We certainly can't see who they are, they're covered in
23:30
Speaker 2: their burkers and the nicubs, But why can't they be named?
23:34
Speaker 3: And certainly if.
23:35
Speaker 2: They are arrested, I'll tell you I will go crazy
23:38
Speaker 2: if there is a suppression order put on top of them,
23:41
Speaker 2: as is happening across this country all the time. I
23:44
Speaker 2: want to know who they are and I want to
23:47
Speaker 2: know what they are being charged with. Do you think
23:50
Speaker 2: we'll get that transparency?
23:54
Speaker 3: I doubt it, Peter.
23:55
Speaker 16: I think it's happening in the way that it's happening
23:57
Speaker 16: because the government wants to have play deniability at every
24:01
Speaker 16: step of the way. If they were going to step
24:04
Speaker 16: in to stop those individuals from receiving a new passport
24:08
Speaker 16: or traveling on an Australian passport, a minister would have
24:11
Speaker 16: to acknowledge that they were responsible for taking that decision
24:15
Speaker 16: on officials advice. But they can be arrested by police,
24:19
Speaker 16: and then I presume what the government will say is, well,
24:22
Speaker 16: that's a police matter, it's nothing to do with us.
24:25
Speaker 16: I mean, here's a very simple test. Are they going
24:28
Speaker 16: to be arrested if any of them are with the
24:32
Speaker 16: same blaze of publicity, the same lights, the same cameras
24:35
Speaker 16: that we saw being applied just a couple of weeks
24:37
Speaker 16: ago to Ben Robert Smith as he was taken off
24:40
Speaker 16: an aircraft. I'm going to be fascinated to see how
24:43
Speaker 16: that is going to be handled. But in any event,
24:48
Speaker 16: whatever might transpire when those flight arrive, I can guarantee
24:51
Speaker 16: you that the government will continue to try to be
24:54
Speaker 16: as hands off as it possibly can all the way
24:56
Speaker 16: through whatever unfolds in this process.
24:59
Speaker 6: From here on.
25:01
Speaker 2: What about the need to monitor them, So say only
25:04
Speaker 2: a few are immediately charged, let's hope they're reminded in custody.
25:09
Speaker 2: The others, we don't know how radical they are. You
25:13
Speaker 2: will remember well, and you could remind my audience if
25:15
Speaker 2: you don't mind about Sharuf and the children holding up
25:19
Speaker 2: a severed head. I mean some of these children are teenager.
25:24
Speaker 2: A dowadery is right across the board, so we know
25:27
Speaker 2: what particularly young boys are and how quickly they can
25:29
Speaker 2: be radicalized in the case of radical Islam. Two million
25:33
Speaker 2: dollars per person, I'm told is about how much it
25:35
Speaker 2: will cost to monitor these people. We already know in
25:39
Speaker 2: the Bondo Royal Commissions into and report from last week
25:42
Speaker 2: that there's been a big cut in funding for our
25:45
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies, So how they expected to do this, to
25:50
Speaker 2: do even more with less to keep us safe.
25:56
Speaker 16: I don't think our intelligence agencies or police are funded
25:59
Speaker 16: or have the individuals necessary to undertake that level of
26:03
Speaker 16: high twenty four hour, seven day a week surveillance peter
26:07
Speaker 16: that would only happen under the highest risk targets. And
26:12
Speaker 16: I just don't believe we're going to see it with
26:14
Speaker 16: regard to these people. But at the same time as
26:17
Speaker 16: I say that to you, what I can say is
26:18
Speaker 16: that Mike Burgess, over months and months now, the head
26:21
Speaker 16: of ASIO, has been making the point that it is
26:24
Speaker 16: actually miners who comprise the largest part of asio's caseload
26:29
Speaker 16: when it comes to dealing with people who are radicalizing
26:33
Speaker 16: to the point of considering terrorism it's the average age
26:39
Speaker 16: of people that were involved in considering terrorist acts in
26:43
Speaker 16: twenty twenty five was fifteen, according to Mike Burgess of ASIO.
26:47
Speaker 16: So just because they're young doesn't mean in fact, it
26:51
Speaker 16: means it's more likely that these people might have might
26:54
Speaker 16: be at risk of radicalizing, and so far that means
26:59
Speaker 16: to say, they will have to go into a range
27:01
Speaker 16: of deradicalization programs which thus far have been proven not
27:06
Speaker 16: to be successful, not just in Australia but globally proven
27:09
Speaker 16: not to be successful. So I think by allowing these
27:13
Speaker 16: people to come back into the country, we have created
27:15
Speaker 16: an impossible surveillance task for the police and intelligence forces
27:18
Speaker 16: because they're not resourced to do it, and we're going
27:21
Speaker 16: to ask them to go through de radicalization programs which
27:24
Speaker 16: have been demonstrated not to effectively work. That's the situation
27:28
Speaker 16: we find ourselves in.
27:30
Speaker 2: I will make the point that someone said, you know, well,
27:32
Speaker 2: I don't like the women.
27:33
Speaker 3: I think the women.
27:34
Speaker 2: Should come back to Australia, but I'm sympathetic to the children.
27:37
Speaker 3: I will make the point, Peter, if the mere fact.
27:40
Speaker 2: That you can go overseas and be involved in things
27:43
Speaker 2: that are reprehensible and against Australian law. But you have
27:46
Speaker 2: a child and you make that child fit the box
27:50
Speaker 2: of being an Australian citizen to bring them home. If
27:53
Speaker 2: that then becomes your anchor back into Australia, that disturbs
27:57
Speaker 2: me enormously. I think you have your kids over there.
28:00
Speaker 2: Your kids are not and cannot be your sympathetic hook
28:03
Speaker 2: back into this country. But just quickly, these late developments
28:06
Speaker 2: this afternoon out of Washington regarding Iran, any update they're
28:11
Speaker 2: worth running through.
28:14
Speaker 16: Well, it seems the President has put on pause the
28:17
Speaker 16: current plan to help evacuate chips out of the Persian
28:21
Speaker 16: Gulf through the Strait of Humors on the basis of
28:24
Speaker 16: talks which the Iranian Foreign Minister is having with his
28:27
Speaker 16: Chinese counterpart. And bear in mind, Peter, that Trump is
28:31
Speaker 16: due to go to Beijing in about a fortnight's time,
28:35
Speaker 16: So this may well be the president's sort of last
28:37
Speaker 16: best hope. And I think you really might be clutching
28:40
Speaker 16: at Straw's hair to imagine that a peace steel is possible.
28:44
Speaker 16: I won't believe it until I see it. And I
28:46
Speaker 16: think the risk of conflict in the Strait of Hillmers
28:49
Speaker 16: remains pretty high until such time as that miraculous peace
28:53
Speaker 16: Steel actually arrives.
28:56
Speaker 2: All right, we will watch the daily developments. Petti Jennys,
28:58
Speaker 2: thank you. Just into namper Jim Proprize calls them hell holes.
29:02
Speaker 2: These are the aborigin on town camps run by Aboriginals
29:06
Speaker 2: in the Northern Territory. Well there's calls now to shut
29:09
Speaker 2: them down with a federal intervention and a city that's
29:12
Speaker 2: now banned meat and fossil fuel advertisements to save the planet.
29:16
Speaker 3: More on that after the break. Welcome back.
29:22
Speaker 2: The council elections about to wipe out the Labour Party
29:25
Speaker 2: across Britain as immigration pain sparks white hot voter anger.
29:30
Speaker 2: Well checking with Sophie Ellsworth a little later. But now
29:32
Speaker 2: to the heartbreaking revelations today that a five year old
29:35
Speaker 2: girl allegedly murder Nell Springs was a subject of six
29:39
Speaker 2: child protection reports since mid March. Northern Territories Minister for
29:44
Speaker 2: Children Robin Klee told Skynes reported Matt Cunningham she contacted
29:49
Speaker 2: the department in April twenty seven, that's the Monday after
29:53
Speaker 2: the child had been reported missing, but it was another
29:56
Speaker 2: four days before department staff reported back to their minister
30:00
Speaker 2: confirming that notifications had indeed been made about this little girl.
30:06
Speaker 2: One indeed, one notification just two days before her disappearance.
30:11
Speaker 2: Missus Kle says she's been butting heads with her own
30:14
Speaker 2: department because there are other cases in the Northern Territory
30:18
Speaker 2: where similar children are in circumstances and nothing's being done
30:22
Speaker 2: to protect them.
30:24
Speaker 10: I've already been accused of being a racist, and I'm
30:27
Speaker 10: okay with that, because if caring about children makes me
30:30
Speaker 10: a racist, I will wear that badge with honor.
30:33
Speaker 3: We are not looking at.
30:34
Speaker 10: Creating a second generation of stolen generation. What we are
30:38
Speaker 10: doing is saying I'm not going to abandon these kids.
30:41
Speaker 10: We can't hide behind a situation that happened many, many
30:45
Speaker 10: years ago and say that that's a reason to.
30:48
Speaker 2: Remain in it and to not take action. These children
30:51
Speaker 2: deserve better now. All credit there to the minister. Three
30:55
Speaker 2: child protection workers have now lost their jobs over handling
30:59
Speaker 2: of this case. As anger continues to build. Here to
31:02
Speaker 2: discuss this and more, leberl MP Phil Thompson from Queensland
31:06
Speaker 2: and New South Wales One Nation, Senator Sean Bell, gentlemen,
31:09
Speaker 2: welcome to the program.
31:12
Speaker 3: Let's put this particular case.
31:13
Speaker 2: There's obviously legal issues all around this one to one side.
31:17
Speaker 2: But Phil, it's two years on from the Howard government intervention.
31:22
Speaker 2: We spend thirty billion dollars each and every year and
31:27
Speaker 2: little's changed. John Howard Tony Abbott out there today is
31:30
Speaker 2: saying we need another intervention. I spoke to Melbrough just
31:34
Speaker 2: the other day. He says, shut down these camps. I say,
31:37
Speaker 2: bring in the army. Bring the army in to a
31:40
Speaker 2: point that we can get them cleaned out and women
31:43
Speaker 2: and children can be safe. You're a former army man.
31:46
Speaker 3: What would you do.
31:50
Speaker 4: Well, Peter, I'm hard program sad that we in.
31:55
Speaker 17: Australia are talking about using potential military forced to in
32:02
Speaker 17: our own borders because people aren't safe. And hearing that
32:07
Speaker 17: three people have lost their job, that's I'm sorry, that's
32:11
Speaker 17: not good enough. A little girl lost her life. There
32:15
Speaker 17: has to be accountability here. And you know you've spent
32:19
Speaker 17: time in all of Springs when Tony was Prime Minister.
32:22
Speaker 4: You've been there.
32:23
Speaker 17: You see it on the ground, you feel it just
32:25
Speaker 17: senter Price is there. She understands it, she gets it.
32:29
Speaker 17: There needs to be action. And one thing, you know,
32:32
Speaker 17: I tossed up whether to bring this up tonight and
32:35
Speaker 17: it's probably going to be a bit detrimental to my
32:38
Speaker 17: career in politics. But you've got you've got all these
32:41
Speaker 17: people who jump up and down and chant things like
32:45
Speaker 17: from Gaddigill to Gaza and you are grace tame in
32:48
Speaker 17: front of thousands of people and demanding action on a
32:51
Speaker 17: war they.
32:51
Speaker 4: Have no idea about.
32:53
Speaker 17: This is a travesty and there needs to be bloody
32:56
Speaker 17: action now because I'm so sick of getting on TV
32:59
Speaker 17: and going, oh, well, we should do something. The government.
33:03
Speaker 17: The Prime Minister is in hiding in Canberra. He should
33:07
Speaker 17: be in Elie Springs. He should sit there and say
33:10
Speaker 17: what do you need. I'm here to act and do
33:13
Speaker 17: it because we are failing these young people.
33:16
Speaker 2: But sure, I'll bring you in on this. You know,
33:18
Speaker 2: I've got to call the crocodile tears. We had a
33:21
Speaker 2: lot of crocodile tears about aboriginal disadvantage from the Prime
33:24
Speaker 2: Minister when he wanted to force on a voice. He's
33:27
Speaker 2: got a plane, he could fly to Alice Springs tomorrow.
33:30
Speaker 2: He hasn't gone near the place since he was there
33:33
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. I think he might have
33:34
Speaker 2: gone there once on the way through to fill up
33:36
Speaker 2: his plane. Basically he's not been on the ground. He's
33:39
Speaker 2: got two ministers in the territory and yet nothing seems
33:43
Speaker 2: to happen. Yet he's got the flag behind him every night,
33:46
Speaker 2: hasn't he made He's got the flag out there and
33:47
Speaker 2: we're told to respect elder's past president emerging.
33:50
Speaker 3: Well, how about some.
33:51
Speaker 2: Of those elders step up here, Peter.
33:58
Speaker 18: I mean the people like to perform a welcome to country. Well, welcome,
34:03
Speaker 18: this is the country that we are living in and
34:05
Speaker 18: it is a national disgrace. And what is occurring right
34:09
Speaker 18: now is because there is a double standard. It shouldn't
34:13
Speaker 18: matter whether a child is white or a child is black.
34:17
Speaker 18: They should have the same protections under the law. And
34:20
Speaker 18: this is something that one nation has been screaming from
34:24
Speaker 18: the rooftops for decades, is that we cannot have a
34:28
Speaker 18: nation divided by race. We have one law for all Australians.
34:33
Speaker 18: And what we are seeing occur all across the country,
34:36
Speaker 18: not just Northern Territory, but this is where the tragedy
34:38
Speaker 18: has most recently occurred, is occurring because they are not
34:43
Speaker 18: being treated equally. We are not keeping them safe because
34:46
Speaker 18: people who talk about it, because the conditions that are
34:49
Speaker 18: occurring are not a secret. They've been spoken about. People
34:53
Speaker 18: know that these conditions, They know that the danger of
34:55
Speaker 18: these children and others are facing. Senator Hanson herself has
34:58
Speaker 18: spoken about it lessly. Senator manageber Price has spoken about
35:03
Speaker 18: it bravely, and yet nothing is done. And when people
35:06
Speaker 18: do raise it, they get attacked, they get called racis.
35:10
Speaker 18: It has to stop, because people's lives are in danger
35:13
Speaker 18: and they need to be protected.
35:16
Speaker 2: I thought of this rank hypocrisy, if I can call
35:20
Speaker 2: it that, please Phil. We're just announced a spend of
35:25
Speaker 2: some seventy four million dollars on a digital online centered
35:29
Speaker 2: to combat terrorism. It's going to be run by ASO
35:32
Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister was patting himself on the back
35:34
Speaker 2: about it. At the same time, we're importing back these
35:38
Speaker 2: Islamic State women and if you listen to the government,
35:41
Speaker 2: it's like the women are benign. You know, women can't
35:43
Speaker 2: be suicide bombers, women can't be involved in all the atrocities. Well,
35:46
Speaker 2: as I said, you've worn the uniform, you know exactly
35:49
Speaker 2: what these women can be capable of. And also we've
35:52
Speaker 2: got Tony Burke's mate, Jamal Riffi, the doctor who was
35:56
Speaker 2: the delivery boy for the passports, and yet the government
35:59
Speaker 2: says we can't do anything about them, we're not assisting them.
36:02
Speaker 17: Come on, it's just not true. These aren't ISIS brides.
36:10
Speaker 4: These are ISIS members.
36:12
Speaker 17: Many of the women pick up arms and fight, many
36:14
Speaker 17: of the children do the same. They traveled to a
36:17
Speaker 17: warn toward country to get into the fight with ices,
36:21
Speaker 17: and now because that experiment didn't work out, their husbands
36:25
Speaker 17: have been killed in battle. Rightly, so they want to
36:28
Speaker 17: return home to Australia.
36:30
Speaker 4: We don't.
36:30
Speaker 17: We should not and should never allow ISIS members to
36:34
Speaker 17: return home. Tony Burke, he can stand put his hands
36:37
Speaker 17: in the air and say I've got nothing to do
36:38
Speaker 17: with it. Well, that's not true, because you can't get
36:42
Speaker 17: issued a passport without government being involved.
36:45
Speaker 4: And they have many leaders.
36:46
Speaker 17: To stop them returning, because they've stopped one person returning,
36:50
Speaker 17: so therefore they should stop all of them. And I've
36:53
Speaker 17: never heard of, and you know, I'm happy to be corrected,
36:56
Speaker 17: but I've never heard of you've been able to send
36:58
Speaker 17: someone you don't know that you may have met somewhere
37:01
Speaker 17: to go pick up a passport that's for you to
37:04
Speaker 17: then travel to your.
37:05
Speaker 4: Location in the Middle East, that you're not allowed to.
37:08
Speaker 17: Go to the hands off your passports because you're in
37:12
Speaker 17: an ISIS holding camp to then be able to travel home.
37:16
Speaker 17: It's not good enough. These are ISIS members. That puts
37:19
Speaker 17: the Australians. It puts Austrains at risk. We shouldn't be
37:22
Speaker 17: having them here. And you know what's going to happen
37:23
Speaker 17: after they arrive in Australia. The Gun's going to do
37:26
Speaker 17: nothing except spend hundreds of millions of dollars on potential surveillance.
37:31
Speaker 17: They're not going to work and contribute. They are going
37:33
Speaker 17: to be a massive burden. And you know what, it
37:36
Speaker 17: doesn't make me feel safe because if they're in Townsville,
37:38
Speaker 17: if they are next to people that I know, I
37:40
Speaker 17: wouldn't want them here.
37:41
Speaker 4: These are ISIS members. We don't want them in Australia.
37:46
Speaker 2: And I guarantee you in the radical mosques in Melbourne
37:48
Speaker 2: and Sydney, things women and these children will be lionized.
37:52
Speaker 2: That is what's going to happen, just quickly Amsterdam. Sure
37:56
Speaker 2: on Amsterdam, they're banning all public ads for me in
38:00
Speaker 2: fossil fuel, so that there's no McDonald's ads anymore.
38:03
Speaker 3: You know, they have car ads.
38:04
Speaker 2: You can't even have a holiday or a tourism promotion
38:07
Speaker 2: if it's got an aeroplane on it.
38:09
Speaker 3: And this is right across the board.
38:11
Speaker 2: I mean, this is nuts, but this will come to
38:14
Speaker 2: Sydney and Melbourne and Brisbane pretty.
38:15
Speaker 4: Soon, correct.
38:21
Speaker 18: I mean it seems crazy, But the truly crazy thing
38:24
Speaker 18: is this is the path Australia is on. This is
38:28
Speaker 18: the inevitable path of the alban eazy labor government's net
38:31
Speaker 18: zero agenda. They don't want a fossil fuel industry, they
38:35
Speaker 18: don't want a farming industry. They don't want you eating
38:38
Speaker 18: hamburgers at home. And this is where it's going to lead.
38:43
Speaker 18: And that is why one nation says we don't want
38:45
Speaker 18: to scrap the fossil fuel industry or hamburgers.
38:49
Speaker 4: We want to scrap net zero.
38:51
Speaker 18: And the truly crazy thing is that people, the Labor
38:54
Speaker 18: Party of others continue to persist down this path of
38:57
Speaker 18: madness because of the pain is inflicted on Australian families
39:01
Speaker 18: and businesses.
39:04
Speaker 2: Gentlemen, thank you. I'll leave it there. We'll catch up
39:06
Speaker 2: with you next week. Just before we go to the break.
39:09
Speaker 2: I'll be still working my way through all the paper
39:12
Speaker 2: to do with Victorian budget from yesterday. Listen to this,
39:15
Speaker 2: one billion dollars will be stripped out of the crime
39:18
Speaker 2: and public order funding budget. This is in Victoria by
39:22
Speaker 2: twenty thirty one billion dollars.
39:26
Speaker 3: Despite the crime crisis. You can't make it up, can you?
39:29
Speaker 16: All?
39:29
Speaker 2: Right after the break, a legal boat arrival is about
39:31
Speaker 2: to hit a big, big number in the UK As
39:34
Speaker 2: we look to that Labor local council election, it's looking
39:38
Speaker 2: like a wipeout for Labor that's on the weekend. Still
39:45
Speaker 2: to come the wonderful kel Richards. But now to London
39:48
Speaker 2: where there is a grim milestone in Britain where small
39:51
Speaker 2: boat migrant arrivals are on course to hit two hundred
39:55
Speaker 2: thousand people, with another eight hundred crossing the English Channel
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Speaker 2: over the week.
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Speaker 3: Get this.
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Speaker 2: In the eight years since the immigration crisis began, just
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Speaker 2: seven thousand, six hundred and twelve illegal migrants have been
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Speaker 2: given the boot.
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Speaker 3: Now, critics warn that.
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Speaker 2: Labour's completely lost control of Britain's borders and will likely
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Speaker 2: see a wipeout of Labor at the forthcoming council elections
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Speaker 2: on the weekend. Of course, I remind you there is
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Speaker 2: no state government in Britain. There's the national government and
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Speaker 2: then there's local councils that these are elections that really
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Speaker 2: matter here too discuss it. Sky's contributed and News Corps
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Speaker 2: Australian and his Corps Australians European correspondent.
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Speaker 3: What a title, sov elsewhere.
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Speaker 2: Great to have you as always hate talkers through these
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Speaker 2: likely new arrivals because your weather is turned. You're in
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Speaker 2: spring and that's danger territory for peak arrivals, isn't.
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Speaker 19: It It is indeed, Peter. And as you can see
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Speaker 19: by those numbers, the UK governments here, both the Labour
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Speaker 19: government now and the previous Tory government cannot get a
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Speaker 19: hold of this.
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Speaker 3: They cannot stop the problem.
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Speaker 19: I was down in Dover last week, Peter, where a
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Speaker 19: lot of the illegal migrants are coming in and the
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Speaker 19: local residents there are furious about this. This has been
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Speaker 19: such an issue that Sekeir Starmer's government has not been
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Speaker 19: able to get a grip on and Home Secretary Shabbaraman
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Speaker 19: Mood while talking tough on stamping out of legal migrants,
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Speaker 19: they have been unable to stop this problem.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll correct this for my viewers at home. You're
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Speaker 3: not in Kent. I can see big ben and pot
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Speaker 3: Colors House.
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Speaker 2: I can see at the Palace of Westminster behind you,
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Speaker 2: so you were there in the dead center of political London,
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Speaker 2: if I can call it that. Talk to me about
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Speaker 2: these council elections on the weekend, because this is really
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Speaker 2: going to be a key issue.
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Speaker 19: It is indeed, so yesterday I was at Kent talking
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Speaker 19: to local residents there because some of the council elections
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Speaker 19: in that county, and Peter I was walking on the
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Speaker 19: street talking to just general punters on the ground and
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Speaker 19: the overwhelming majority of them we're very, very concerned about
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Speaker 19: illegal migration and the cost of living, which seems to
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Speaker 19: really mirror what is happening in Australia.
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Speaker 3: They are furious, Peter.
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Speaker 19: Voters are furious that the Labor government has not been
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Speaker 19: able to get control of this. They're annoyed with the
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Speaker 19: current prime minister. They've had seven prime ministers in the
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Speaker 19: last decade and they're looking to possibly have a new
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Speaker 19: prime minister if these elections do badly. So this is
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Speaker 19: dangered territory for se Keir Starmer and he hasn't been
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Speaker 19: on the campaign trail either, Peter during these council election campaigns,
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Speaker 19: so it's been very interesting. He's been tucked away while
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Speaker 19: you have seen Kemmy Badenoch and Nigel Farrage out speaking
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Speaker 19: to voters.
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Speaker 2: Names to replace Keir Starmer. We're still talking Rayner. Who
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Speaker 2: else are we talking?
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Speaker 19: We are, indeed we're talking the former Deputy Prime Minister
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Speaker 19: Angela Rayner. We're also talking about the Manchester Mayor, Andy Burnham,
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Speaker 19: who I must point out is not in the House
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Speaker 19: of Commons. So there's book that they're trying to make
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Speaker 19: space for him in the House of Commons by asking
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Speaker 19: another Labour MP to vacate their seat and make way
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Speaker 19: for him to come into the House of Commons and
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Speaker 19: eventually take over from Saka. And then also there's a
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Speaker 19: Health Secretary, Wes Streeting. They have the three names that
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Speaker 19: are top of the headlines here in the UK as
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Speaker 19: possible replacements for Sakia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just quickly.
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Speaker 2: Kimmy Badenoch was the Golders Green and she really took
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Speaker 2: on a pro Palestinian type activist. They went toe to toe.
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Speaker 2: There's a viral grab. I think we've got it there
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Speaker 2: for a moment. Let's have a look.
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Speaker 3: But taking them as a.
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Speaker 18: People who've died and who've been killed were Jewish people
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Speaker 18: in synagogue's let's stop.
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Speaker 19: Pretending something else is happening.
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Speaker 4: What I am doing is supports you.
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Speaker 13: No, no, no.
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Speaker 16: What I'm doing is supports your Jewish people from the
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Speaker 16: sort of ignorance people like you put out that and
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Speaker 16: I will never be as ebidentic by it.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, I want to see this in Australia too.
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Speaker 2: It is about time politicians go toe to toe with
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Speaker 2: some of these people in the street. I mean, they
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Speaker 2: play the safe game too often, or they have events
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Speaker 2: that are to guard it away from people. I think
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Speaker 2: we want these sorts of reactions. But she's saying that
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Speaker 2: we need to start banning these pro Palestinian marches in Britain.
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Speaker 3: Is that likely to happen? Peter?
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Speaker 19: That has been discussed in recent days following that attack
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Speaker 19: in Golders Green. There's also talk about banning certain chants
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Speaker 19: such as River to the Sea. I think once they
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Speaker 19: start banning marches, though, Peter, this is very dangerous territory
44:52
Speaker 19: because then it becomes a case of which marches do
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Speaker 19: they allow and which marches do they not allow, and
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Speaker 19: it becomes very murky. As for the chance, that's another
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Speaker 19: issue because of what has been chanted at these events.
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Speaker 19: But this is definitely a contentious issue that is very
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Speaker 19: much in the debate here in the UK.
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Speaker 2: I think you'd go back to the old Speaker's Corner
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Speaker 2: in Hyde Park. You know there's a spot in Britain
45:17
Speaker 2: already where if you want to ventilate a public concern,
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Speaker 2: you're supposed to go there as a punter. I mean, obviously,
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Speaker 2: if you're elected, you go to the Commons behind you,
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Speaker 2: but you're supposed to go to Speaker's corner. Just bring
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Speaker 2: that in and stop them marching through the street with
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Speaker 2: their hate.
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Speaker 3: That'd be nice.
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Speaker 2: I'll let you go go and enjoy the nice looking
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Speaker 2: day that's coming your way, Sophie in springtime, London.
45:36
Speaker 3: All right, quick break after the great Kel.
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Speaker 2: Here he is Kel Richards, as he is every Wednesday,
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Speaker 2: to go through your words and phrases and synonyms, a
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Speaker 2: whole box and dice. We've got an interesting one tonight
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Speaker 2: about prefixes, the difference please between disinterested and uninterested Kel.
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Speaker 6: About a month ago here on Credline, I talked about
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Speaker 6: the fact that I've been fighting a battle for years
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Speaker 6: to say disinterested means impartial, not having a vested interest
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Speaker 6: like a judge on a bench, while uninterested means having
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Speaker 6: no interest. That's the correct way to use both words.
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Speaker 6: Then I discovered that when the word disinterested came into
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Speaker 6: English back in the sixteen thirties, it meant both. It
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Speaker 6: meant both impartial and not interested. And so I asked
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Speaker 6: the viewers if I should give up my battle. Well,
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Speaker 6: I had floods of emails from a credline viewer saying no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 6: keep fighting the battle. Kell Every literate person uses disinterested
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Speaker 6: to mean impartial and only that, and it sounds semi
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Speaker 6: literate to do anything else. Although I've got to say,
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Speaker 6: two viewers, quite independently, Brian and Irene, sent me email
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Speaker 6: saying the same thing. There is so much muddle about
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Speaker 6: this these days, they said, maybe we abandon them, and
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Speaker 6: we just we don't say disinterested uninterested, we say impartial,
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Speaker 6: or we say are not interested. And maybe maybe that's
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Speaker 6: what we should be teaching in our skills of journalism
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Speaker 6: these days, because we're not getting people on the right
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Speaker 6: track and we're not getting them to say the right thing.
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Speaker 6: So give it up. Not disinterested, impartial and not interested.
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Speaker 6: Let's teach that to our journalists.
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Speaker 2: Oh all right, out of time, I was going to
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Speaker 2: get get some more in. I will make sure I
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Speaker 2: make it up to you next week, cal I promise.
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Speaker 2: But at least that's a good explanation about something that
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Speaker 2: you clearly had everyone quite vexed about.
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Speaker 3: And I agree with them. Don't let's dumb it down.
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Speaker 2: Let's try to bring people up as opposed to making
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Speaker 2: everybody stupid.
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Speaker 3: The government does en up of that, don't they.
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Speaker 2: That's it for me updexed with the Bolt Report, of course,
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Speaker 2: Steve Price